The left hates America

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/cliffordlevy/status/1450092522756362243?s=20

https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1450208250369032198?s=20

Never give an inch to the left. They are your enemy.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/cliffordlevy/status/1450092522756362243?s=20

https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1450208250369032198?s=20

Never give an inch to the left. They are your enemy.Did you like the US better when it was a slavery nation?

[Nathan89]

Did you like the US better when it was a slavery nation?

Notice how the leftist morons that will scream "slippery slope fallacy" in the past will just move the goal posts and comment with some other bullshit when what they said wouldn't possibly happen actually happens a couple years later.

[Nathan89]

The left often tries to shield the direction their cancerous ideology is going with "slippery slope fallacy".

[ChumpDumper]

Notice how the leftist morons that will scream "slippery slope fallacy" in the past will just move the goal posts and comment with some other bullshit when what they said wouldn't possibly happen actually happens a couple years later.


The left often tries to shield the direction their cancerous ideology is going with "slippery slope fallacy".Well the left took slavery from you.

To avoid the slippery slope, you should've stopped that, right? You should want it back.

What else are you not going to concede to the left now?

Child tax credits?

Or is it just the culture war you're crying about?

Make yourself clear so we understand you.

[DarrinS]

Well the left took slavery from you.


Lol

[ChumpDumper]

LolAlmost as silly as imagining the left took Jefferson away from you, right?:lol

[Nathan89]

"The City Council’s Black, Latino and Asian Caucus said the statue “symbolizes the disgusting and racist basis on which America was founded.”"

Open borders is part of the lefts plan to destroy America. Illegals shouldn't exist in this country and legal immigration should be very restricted.

[ElNono]

"The City Council’s Black, Latino and Asian Caucus said the statue “symbolizes the disgusting and racist basis on which America was founded.”"

Nothing false about this. America's racial history is indeed ugly, always a good time to recognize that. A good amount of the venerated Founding Fathers were indeed slave owners.

[ChumpDumper]

"The City Council’s Black, Latino and Asian Caucus said the statue “symbolizes the disgusting and racist basis on which America was founded.”"

Open borders is part of the lefts plan to destroy America. Illegals shouldn't exist in this country and legal immigration should be very restricted.What does removing an old white guy statue have to do with your imaginary immigration policy?

[Ef-man]

What does removing an old white guy statue have to do with your imaginary immigration policy?

:cry muh heritage:cry

[baseline bum]

Should replace it with a statue of FDR

[Nathan89]

Nothing false about this. America's racial history is indeed ugly, always a good time to recognize that. A good amount of the venerated Founding Fathers were indeed slave owners.

No shit. That's why it was easy to project future actions of the left.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/sethweathers/status/1450177618830151682?s=20

A message to conservatives. Stop funding pussy do nothing moderates. The left is destroying your country and they'll just sit on their hands and be silent as it happens.

[ChumpDumper]

No shit. That's why it was easy to project future actions of the left.

Because we think slavery was bad?

Do you think slavery was bad, Nathan?

Yes or no.

[Nathan89]

Why didn't they start with the founding fathers statues? They needed to increase the temperature slowly on Americans. They needed you to accept their new normal. They need you to be complacent.

[Nathan89]

As the left takes down the statues of founding fathers they will paint you as the problem. Even though they would have acted like you were a lunatic a couple of years ago if you said this is where they were going. If this was their agenda why were they not upfront about it?

[Nathan89]

Never trust what the leftist says. Look at the logic of their actions and then project the future.

[Will Hunting]

Why didn't they start with the founding fathers statues? They needed to increase the temperature slowly on Americans. They needed you to accept their new normal. They need you to be complacent.


As the left takes down the statues of founding fathers they will paint you as the problem. Even though they would have acted like you were a lunatic a couple of years ago if you said this is where they were going. If this was their agenda why were they not upfront about it?


Never trust what the leftist says. Look at the logic of their actions and then project the future.
Who are you talking to?

[monosylab1k]

Never trust what the leftist says. Look at the logic of their actions and then project the future.

Didn’t you support Bernie Sanders? :lol

[Will Hunting]

Not me, us.

[monosylab1k]

Hey Nathan89 here’s the current darling of conservatives talking about the founding fathers, I’m sure you’ll enjoy it!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QemYNQfix-c

[DMC]

Nothing false about this. America's racial history is indeed ugly, always a good time to recognize that. A good amount of the venerated Founding Fathers were indeed slave owners.

Some people will be offended that America was founded in the 1st place. Should we undo the founding of America and give it back to the Natives?

[DMC]

Who are you talking to?

Pretty sure it's that invisible audience Winehole talks to.

[Nathan89]

Who are you talking to?

Some of my comments are just to anyone that comes into the thread and others are partial responses to other comments(that I choose not to quote).

[Nathan89]

As the left takes down statues of the founding fathers they put up statues of a do nothing drug addict that held a gun to the stomach of a pregnant woman.

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/cliffordlevy/status/1450092522756362243?s=20

https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1450208250369032198?s=20

Never give an inch to the left. They are your enemy.
robert e lee was literally our enemy. its this Jesse moron who cant tell Jefferson apart from confederate traitors :lol

[ElNono]

No shit. That's why it was easy to project future actions of the left.

So if it's true and makes sense, what's the faux outrage about? :lol

[Nathan89]

The morally superior left that is increasingly supporting killing babies in the womb till birth takes down statues of the men that planted the seeds for our country.

[ElNono]

robert e lee was literally our enemy. its this Jesse moron who cant tell Jefferson apart from confederate traitors :lol

He also apparently hasn't read a book about Marxism-Leninism either...

[ElNono]

The morally superior left that is increasingly supporting killing babies in the womb till birth takes down statues of the men that planted the seeds for our country.

Nothing moral about it, entirely factual, as you already admitted. It's the right that wants to impose moral standards, and that's exactly the people you want far away from positions of power.

[Nathan89]

So if it's true and makes sense, what's the faux outrage about? :lol

I recognize recognize leftist logic and projected the future. I don't agree with detrimental actions of the left. I'm not sure what you are confused by tbh.

[Nathan89]

robert e lee was literally our enemy. its this Jesse moron who cant tell Jefferson apart from confederate traitors :lol

Jefferson is literally your enemy.

[Nathan89]

Nothing moral about it, entirely factual, as you already admitted. It's the right that wants to impose moral standards, and that's exactly the people you want far away from positions of power.

The discussion isn't centered on a particular fact about Jefferson. It's centered on the self-righteous left taking down the founding fathers. Something they would have denied was going to happen just 2 years ago.

[FrostKing]

1991: "I'm not going to spend my life being a color" - Michael Jackson

2021: "The City Council’s Black, Latino and Asian Caucus.."

[Nathan89]

Jefferson having slaves is a fact. Taking down his statue based on that is entirely based on moral judgment.

[ElNono]

I recognize recognize leftist logic and projected the future. I don't agree with detrimental actions of the left. I'm not sure what you are confused by tbh.

I'm confused why you act like a battered woman when you agree it's shameful our founding fathers were indeed slave owners, and historically that reflects very poorly on them.

What's the fake outrage about again? And what does 'the left' has to do with this?


The discussion isn't centered on a particular fact about Jefferson. It's centered on the self-righteous left taking down the founding fathers. Something they would have denied was going to happen just 2 years ago.

You don't get to pick where the discussion is centered. You came here pretending to have been bitchslapped by 'the left' because the racial connotations surrounding our founding fathers... and then admit that to be true (we all all know it was).

Again, what did 'the left' do about that? Are you here to defend the integrity of slave owners?

[ChumpDumper]

The discussion isn't centered on a particular fact about Jefferson. It's centered on the self-righteous left taking down the founding fathers. Something they would have denied was going to happen just 2 years ago.
So are you in favor of a higher level law keeping potentially offensive statues and monuments in place?

Yes or no.

1991: "I'm not going to spend my life being a color" - Michael Jackson Bold move using a quote from a pedophile.

On brand though.

[boutons_deux]

A few years ago, TX SBOE Christian fascists wanted remove Tommy J from history books because he was (the main?) proponent of the "separation clause"

[ElNono]

Jefferson having slaves is a fact. Taking down his statue based on that is entirely based on moral judgment.

It isn't. But regardless, conflating Jefferson to defend Robert Lee, a traitor and avowed enemy of the union, is the kind of stupid stretch I expect from racists.

[ChumpDumper]

Jefferson having slaves is a fact. Taking down his statue based on that is entirely based on moral judgment.
I guess.

One based on the fact he owned slaves.

And it was a moral judgment that put the statue there in the first place.

What is your moral judgment on slavery.

Was it good or bad?

[Nathan89]

Yes, I'm here to defend the architects of this country. I thought that was obvious.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes, I'm here to defend the architects of this country. I thought that was obvious.

Do you defend them specifically as slave owners and rapists?

[Nathan89]

It isn't. But regardless, conflating Jefferson to defend Robert Lee, a traitor and avowed enemy of the union, is the kind of stupid stretch I expect from racists.

And yet the lunatics didn't stop with Lee. Which is the entire point of his tweet.

Yes, it is in arguably a moral judgment.

[spurraider21]

Jefferson is literally your enemy.
not at all. in fact i live in his town.

[Nathan89]

I guess.

One based on the fact he owned slaves.

And it was a moral judgment that put the statue there in the first place.

What is your moral judgment on slavery.

Was it good or bad?

Yes, the moral judgment to remember those that greatly influenced the birth of a prosperous nation. Standard protocol for any society that isn't trying to destroy itself.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes, the moral judgment to remember those that greatly influenced the birth of a prosperous nation. Standard protocol for any society that isn't trying to destroy itself.No one is going to forget Jefferson. They're just not venerating him in a city hall.

Slavery.

Good or bad?

[DMC]

1991: "I'm not going to spend my life being a color" - Michael Jackson

2021: "The City Council’s Black, Latino and Asian Caucus.."

But Mike was serious. He was whiter than Matt Bonner when he died.

[DMC]

I think all statues should be removed. They should also remove the faces from our money. Instead of having old dead Presidents, the money should have animals on it.

[pgardn]

Statues have been removed, defaced, put back up, taken down again, destroyed in war throughout history for practically any area on Earth that was advanced enough to actually build or even draw the damn things in the first place. But because we are so new and prosperous, not us.

[ElNono]

And yet the lunatics didn't stop with Lee. Which is the entire point of his tweet.

Yes, it is in arguably a moral judgment.

There’s no moral ambiguity at all in Jefferson being a slave owner, unless your argument is that owning slaves is morally positive.

It’s a negative and given that slaves were predominantly black, the racial connotation couldn’t be more clear.

It’s ok though, we don’t live in the 1800s anymore. Acknowledging the ugly truth of those days is the right thing to do, tbh

[Nathan89]

Virtually every leftist defending this would have been against this 5-10 years ago. I could probably find another thread about statues where they denied this was going happen. Hell they probably didn't support it yesterday but now they have to defend their extremism.

[Nathan89]

There’s no moral ambiguity at all in Jefferson being a slave owner, unless your argument is that owning slaves is morally positive.

It’s a negative and given that slaves were predominantly black, the racial connotation couldn’t be more clear.

It’s ok though, we don’t live in the 1800s anymore. Acknowledging the ugly truth of those days is the right thing to do, tbh

I'm not sure how you are so confused about what the moral judgment pertains to but all that isn't close to what I was saying. Dumper seemed to understand.

Acknowledged. And the statue should remain. I'm not sure how these morally repugnant people think they are in any position to judge the architects of the country.

[benefactor]

https://i.ibb.co/bRdZPBj/Nathan.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not sure how you are so confused about what the moral judgment pertains to but all that isn't close to what I was saying. Dumper seemed to understand.

Acknowledged. And the statue should remain. I'm not sure how these morally repugnant people think they are in any position to judge the architects of the country.How are they morally repugnant if they base their decision on a moral choice against slavery?

Do you think slavery is bad, Nathan?

You really need to say yes or no.

[FrostKing]

How are they morally repugnant if they base their decision on a moral choice against slavery?

Do you think slavery is bad, Nathan?

You really need to say yes or no.
These are the same people that celebrate "blacks built the white house"

[ChumpDumper]

These are the same people that celebrate "blacks built the white house"Do you think US slavery was a good thing?

Yes or no.

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/cliffordlevy/status/1450092522756362243?s=20

https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1450208250369032198?s=20

Never give an inch to the left. They are your enemy.

https://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2015/08/12/7ef6210b-ff9c-4c4b-aa94-e992644192ec/thumbnail/640x426/ec174d85dff4d2896ea8a96c734d5f9d/flanders-leftorium.jpg

[Will Hunting]

https://i.ibb.co/bRdZPBj/Nathan.jpg
actual pronunciation is actually gay-than

[Will Hunting]

:lmao quoting Jesse Kelly, one of the worst congressional candidates ever

[ElNono]

I'm not sure how you are so confused about what the moral judgment pertains to but all that isn't close to what I was saying. Dumper seemed to understand.

Acknowledged. And the statue should remain. I'm not sure how these morally repugnant people think they are in any position to judge the architects of the country.

We put up statues to celebrate and remember important people. Again, there's no moral ambiguity when celebrating slave owners, and the racial connotations are quite clear as well.

In the case of Jefferson you can make an argument that he had other redeeming qualities, and that he lived at a time when slave ownership was legal and fairly common (which objectively doesn't excuse the practice, but does provide some context).

You can also acknowledge that while slavery wasn't coded into the constitution, the notion of freedom they coded in there effectively didn't apply to slaves.

What they do decide to do with the statue is up to the town. I can see valid arguments for taking it down and also for keeping it.

None of those apply to General Lee, however. A traitor to this nation that fought to keep slavery the law of the land, and ended up a gigantic loser, which is how he should be remembered.

[monosylab1k]

https://i.ibb.co/bRdZPBj/Nathan.jpg

:lmao

[Adam Lambert]

What they do decide to do with the statue is up to the town. I can see valid arguments for taking it down and also for keeping it.

Big Government Republicans like Nathan want the public to celebrate their heroes by coercion.

[ElNono]

Big Government Republicans like Nathan want the public to celebrate their heroes by coercion.

Well, you should take note how he tried to frame this. He tried to crowbar in this as a moral dilemma, and then force his moral compass not by the merits, but because 'traditionalism is under attack'.

When it comes to dictating morality, Republicans have always been, far and away, the party of big government. It goes to almost every single wedge issue out there, from abortion to marriage to equality, etc.

It needs to be forced upon the citizenship, by whatever means.

[Winehole23]

Big Government Republicans like Nathan want the public to celebrate their heroes by coercion.If you don't worship them uncritically, you hate America!

[pgardn]

Statues have been removed, defaced, put back up, taken down again, destroyed in war throughout history for practically any area on Earth that was advanced enough to actually build or even draw the damn things in the first place. But because we are so new and "prosperous", not us.

Nathan.

Request a pyramid in the shape of Jefferson (yeah I dont know how) and it will be very difficult to get rid of the "pharaoh"

[FrostKing]

> The City Council’s Black, Latino and Asian Caucus said the statue “symbolizes the disgusting and racist basis on which America was founded.”

Teenaged emotional tantrum tbh. The statue is just a piece of metal. Empowering these children is the concerning part.

[Adam Lambert]

> The City Council’s Black, Latino and Asian Caucus said the statue “symbolizes the disgusting and racist basis on which America was founded.”

Teenaged emotional tantrum tbh. The statue is just a piece of metal. Empowering these children is the concerning part.

Caucuses, typically, are by nature empowered.

You're right, it's just a piece of metal. Stop being so butthurt about it. It's a local decorative decision.

[FrostKing]

Caucuses, typically, are by nature empowered.

You're right, it's just a piece of metal. Stop being so butthurt about it. It's a local decorative decision.
Privileged caucus spending time & resources on decorations while the people they represent suffer. If these people had lighter skin you'd label them suckers.

[ChumpDumper]

The statue is just a piece of metal.Why are you throwing a tantrum over its removal?

[ChumpDumper]

Privileged caucus spending time & resources on decorations while the people they represent suffer. If these people had lighter skin you'd label them suckers.Do you believe blacks are your equals?

[Adam Lambert]

Privileged caucus spending time & resources on decorations while the people they represent suffer. If these people had lighter skin you'd label them suckers.

I'm guessing they can multitask.

If these people had lighter skin there wouldn't be a thread about it in the ST Political Forum and neither of us would probably know anything about it.

[pgardn]

Privileged caucus spending time & resources on decorations while the people they represent suffer. If these people had lighter skin you'd label them suckers.

You think people take you seriously given your past statements about people with from different cultures and different body characteristics?

Dont try to hide behind this suffering bull shit. You are totally misrepresenting your real sentiments. ie lying.

[koriwhat]

Notice how the leftist morons that will scream "slippery slope fallacy" in the past will just move the goal posts and comment with some other bullshit when what they said wouldn't possibly happen actually happens a couple years later.

Thanks for quoting CumDumpster.

I can't wait for CivilWar2.0 tbh... Those like CumDumpster better start getting prepared because it's "males" like him that need to be taken out of this world completely.

[koriwhat]

https://i.ibb.co/bRdZPBj/Nathan.jpg

benefactor
___________
[pu-to]

1 :closet queer
2 :stalks men on facebook and spurstalk

[koriwhat]

As the left takes down statues of the founding fathers they put up statues of a do nothing drug addict that held a gun to the stomach of a pregnant woman.

I've heard conflicting stories about that GF incident robbing that lady in her home. Either way, GF was a fucking scumbag loser who might not have deserved to die but definitely doesn't deserve effigies to him.

[clambake]

That calf tats thing really screwed him up.

[koriwhat]

our founding fathers

Not your founding fathers tbh...

[koriwhat]

That calf tats thing really screwed him up.

You really think you're something special here clam? You're just like the others tbh; all bitches! You know I'm right too.

[koriwhat]

A good amount of the venerated Founding Fathers were indeed slave owners.

WGAF? Show me a country that wasn't established on the backs on others. Your own home country has a ugly history of enslaving Africans and others too but I don't see you crying over that bs.

[DMC]

I don't care about statues. I care about statutes. Let's do away with some statutes.

[Winehole23]

I don't care about statues. I care about statutes. Let's do away with some statutes.Which ones?

Don't be coy now, say what you really mean.

[Winehole23]

Jefferson was in France, boning Sally Hemings. Didn't write a word of it.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCFn92kVcAEFkxl?format=jpg&name=large

[DMC]

Which ones?

Don't be coy now, say what you really mean.

National Firearms Act, especially regarding suppressors.

[DMC]

Jefferson was in France, boning Sally Hemings. Didn't write a word of it.

People like you do more to get his message across than all of his constituents combined. Without liberal MSM he doesn't even get elected.

[Winehole23]

National Firearms Act, especially regarding suppressors.that's the only one?

You said statutes?

[Winehole23]

Without liberal MSM he doesn't even get elected.likely true

[ChumpDumper]

Thanks for quoting CumDumpster.

I can't wait for CivilWar2.0 tbh... Those like CumDumpster better start getting prepared because it's "males" like him that need to be taken out of this world completely.Come up here and say that to my face, pussy.

[Winehole23]

... and DMC's streak of not posting anything negative about Trump remains intact.

Chose to tweak my nose for exposing Trump to ridicule instead of Trump's for pissing on someone's grave, which he was just took umbrage at in another thread.

[Blake]

Come up here and say that to my face, pussy.

I vaguely recall a post sometime back where koriwhat flat out said he thinks you would probably kick his ass in a fight.

[ElNono]

Not your founding fathers tbh...

Being that I'm a US citizen and a US passport holder, and my vote counts as much as yours on any US election, I will go ahead and call them how I very well damn please.

[DMC]

that's the only one?

You said statutes?

No there's others but you're just going to flip through them and move on. Get to the move on part.

[DMC]

... and DMC's streak of not posting anything negative about Trump remains intact.

Chose to tweak my nose for exposing Trump to ridicule instead of Trump's for pissing on someone's grave, which he was just took umbrage at in another thread.

If I show you're full of shit you'd just keep posting unrelated tweets so you're free to make whatever baseless claim gets you off.

[Winehole23]

No there's others but you're just going to flip through them and move on.Fine by me if you lack the courage of your convictions even to name them.

I expected as much.

[Winehole23]

If I show you're full of shit you'd just keep posting unrelated tweets so you're free to make whatever baseless claim gets you off.I didn't piss on Powell's grave, Trump did though.

[Thread]

I didn't piss on Powell's grave, Trump did though.

Good. Even excellent.

No-free-rides. Mel forewarned one & all early on after...

Trump President.|
Not Clinton.

"If you hit him, he's going to hit back ten times harder."

[DMC]

I didn't piss on Powell's grave, Trump did though.

You just waited for him to die then took sudden interest in posting as much negative shit as possible about him to try to prove he was a piece of shit. Stay vigilant, you never know when some ne'er do well like Powell might kick. You don't want to miss your opportunity.

[RandomGuy]

"The City Council’s Black, Latino and Asian Caucus said the statue “symbolizes the disgusting and racist basis on which America was founded.”"

Open borders is part of the lefts plan to destroy America. Illegals shouldn't exist in this country and legal immigration should be very restricted.

:lol white replacement :cry :cry :cry

"we're not racist, we just don't like brown people"

[RandomGuy]

I didn't piss on Powell's grave, Trump did though.

Saw that. It was fucking embarrassing.

[RandomGuy]

You just waited for him to die then took sudden interest in posting as much negative shit as possible about him to try to prove he was a piece of shit. Stay vigilant, you never know when some ne'er do well like Powell might kick. You don't want to miss your opportunity.

Translation:
:cry relevant information got posted about current events in a political forum. :cry

[RandomGuy]

https://twitter.com/cliffordlevy/status/1450092522756362243?s=20

https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1450208250369032198?s=20

Never give an inch to the left. They are your enemy.

Translation:

"I think slavery is fine, and rape is totally cool".

You are apologizing for all sorts of things this morning.

How does it feel to be evil? Does it give you a little sociopathic twinge in your gut or what?

[DMC]

Translation:

"I think slavery is fine, and rape is totally cool".

You are apologizing for all sorts of things this morning.

How does it feel to be evil? Does it give you a little sociopathic twinge in your gut or what?

Do you think the constitution is oppressive? How about separation of church and state? Did you associate Thomas Jefferson with slavery, oppression and and rape prior to the woke movement?

[baseline bum]

Do you think the constitution is oppressive? How about separation of church and state? Did you associate Thomas Jefferson with slavery, oppression and and rape prior to the woke movement?

So you're saying Jefferson being a slaveowner wasn't known until 2020?

[ChumpDumper]

Did you associate Thomas Jefferson with slavery, oppression and and rape prior to the woke movement?Long before.

You didn't start proclaiming your ignoring me prior to my pointing out your failure to use infer/imply correctly.

[ChumpDumper]

So you're saying Jefferson being a slaveowner wasn't known until 2020?:lol he's flailing now.

I have no idea why he's against knowing the truth about people like Jefferson or Trump. He's just getting old and bitter.

[Thread]

:lol he's flailing now.

I have no idea why he's against knowing the truth about people like Jefferson or Trump. He's just getting old and bitter.

...like you all did after...

Trump President.
Not Clinton.

[RandomGuy]

Do you think the constitution is oppressive? How about separation of church and state? Did you associate Thomas Jefferson with slavery, oppression and and rape prior to the woke movement?

US constitution is not oppressive.
The separation of church and state is not oppressive.
I became aware of his ownership and rape of slaves at some point in the 90's. This is well before you were brainwashed by propaganda telling you to be alarmed about a "woke movement" so that the corporate fascists can make more money from your manufactured outrage, so yes.

[koriwhat]

Do you think the constitution is oppressive? How about separation of church and state? Did you associate Thomas Jefferson with slavery, oppression and and rape prior to the woke movement?

PREACH! :tu

[Joseph Kony]

So you're saying Jefferson being a slaveowner wasn't known until 2020?
anyone who went to college or paid attention in high school history knows this :lol DMC outing himself as a uneducated moron

[Winehole23]

It was noticed at the time


In favour of this exemption of the Americans from the authority of their lawful sovereign, and the dominion of their mother-country, very loud clamours have been raised, and many wild assertions advanced. . . . These antipatriotick prejudices are the abortions of folly impregnated by faction. . . . We are told, that the subjection of Americans may tend to the diminution of our own liberties; an event, which none but very perspicacious politicians are able to foresee. If slavery be thus fatally contagious, how is it that we hear the loudest yelps for liberty among the drivers of negroes?

[RandomGuy]

So you're saying Jefferson being a slaveowner wasn't known until 2020?

Ah yes, neo-fascist white supremicists pine for days where they could be openly racists without repercussion, i.e. the good ol' days.

:cry why do you keep bringing up all that murder, torture and rape? :cry you say that as if it were a bad thing :cry :cry

[RandomGuy]

It was noticed at the time

In favour of this exemption of the Americans from the authority of their lawful sovereign, and the dominion of their mother-country, very loud clamours have been raised, and many wild assertions advanced. . . . These antipatriotick prejudices are the abortions of folly impregnated by faction. . . . We are told, that the subjection of Americans may tend to the diminution of our own liberties; an event, which none but very perspicacious politicians are able to foresee. If slavery be thus fatally contagious, how is it that we hear the loudest yelps for liberty among the drivers of negroes? Samuel Johnson, in 1775



WOKE CULTURE :cry :cry

[koriwhat]

Being that I'm a US citizen and a US passport holder, and my vote counts as much as yours on any US election, I will go ahead and call them how I very well damn please.

Yeah yeah yeah whatever... Lets hear some more about your actual country of origin and their history of slavery buddy. :tu

[Winehole23]

WOKE CULTURE :cry :cryIndeed, Samuel Johnson was an ardent abolitionist.

[FrostKing]

Ah yes, neo-fascist white supremicists pine for days where they could be openly racists without repercussion, i.e. the good ol' days.

:cry why do you keep bringing up all that murder, torture and rape? :cry you say that as if it were a bad thing :cry :cry
I thought systematic racism made them that way?

Why the judging.

[ChumpDumper]

I thought systematic racism made them that way?

Why the judging.I'll ask you again:

Do you think slavery in the US was a good thing or bad thing?

[RandomGuy]

Indeed, Samuel Johnson was an ardent abolitionist.

What? The US was founded as a liberal democracy?

[spurraider21]

and you cant blame jefferson for just being a victim of his time. he damn well knew it was immoral. he himself called it a great evil.

and yet he continued to hold slaves, including his own children (though their freedom was negotiated by their mother, who agreed to remain a slave for life in exchange for them to be freed when they reached the age of 21)

jefferson did a lot of great things and when looking at his lasting effects, did a lot more good than harm... but he's a complicated figure to say the least

[Ef-man]

Indeed, Samuel Johnson was an ardent abolitionist.


What? The US was founded as a liberal democracy?

https://media.giphy.com/media/2hgwvqgJLjCxjMTQ87/giphy.gif

[Nathan89]

:lol white replacement :cry :cry :cry

"we're not racist, we just don't like brown people"

I'm fine with accepting non-white immigrants.

The biggest problem is the anti-white ideology of the left.

[Nathan89]

Translation:

"I think slavery is fine, and rape is totally cool".

You are apologizing for all sorts of things this morning.

How does it feel to be evil? Does it give you a little sociopathic twinge in your gut or what?

I don't care about your warped translation or the moral judgment of a leftist.

[baseline bum]

I'm fine with accepting non-white immigrants.

The biggest problem is the anti-white ideology of the left.

:cry anti white supremacy is an anti-white ideology :cry

[FrostKing]

I'll ask you again:

Do you think slavery in the US was a good thing or bad thing?
I wasn't alive then. Didn't hurt or benefit me.

[spurraider21]

I wasn't alive then. Didn't hurt or benefit me.
he didnt ask if it was good or bad for you :lol

are you incapable of determining the morals of a situation unless you are personally involved? can you not tell that it is a bad thing to rape a child because it doesnt hurt or benefit you?

[FrostKing]

he didnt ask if it was good or bad for you :lol

are you incapable of determining the morals of a situation unless you are personally involved? can you not tell that it is a bad thing to rape a child because it doesnt hurt or benefit you?
It was a ruthless social norm of the times. Good/bad is too simplistic, we are not discussing a comic book movie.

[spurraider21]

It was a ruthless social norm of the times. Good/bad is too simplistic, we are not discussing a comic book movie.
please get into the nuanced morality of chattel slavery

[RandomGuy]

I don't care about your warped translation or the moral judgment of a leftist.

Then unwarp it.

Is slavery evil, yes or no?

[ChumpDumper]

It was a ruthless social norm of the times. Good/bad is too simplistic, we are not discussing a comic book movie.Well if you think it was good AND bad, start off with what you think was bad about it.

Let's discuss.

[DMC]

please get into the nuanced morality of chattel slavery

:lol like you give a shit. You just think you see an easy clean.

[DMC]

Ephesians 6:5-8 Paul states, “Slaves, be obedient to your human masters with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ” which is Paul instructing slaves to obey their master. Similar statements regarding obedient slaves can be found in Colossians 3:22-24, 1 Timothy 6:1-2, and Titus 2:9-10.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol DMChickenshit won't answer either.

[DMC]

Quran 39:95 refers to master and slave with the same word. However, slaves are not accorded the same legal standing as the free. Slaves are considered as minors for whom the owner is responsible. The punishment for crimes committed by slaves is half the punishment as to be meted out on free persons.

[DMC]

Nothing yet that says it's evil.

[DMC]

Hinduism is the one and only religion in this world which has a documented concept of "Occhut" (Untouchables). It is the only religion in this world which spread racism directly by scripture, and by preachers. Those 'untouchable Dalits' who has been considered as 'slaves' by Aryans, are, no doubt, the most pitiable victims of Hindu religion.

In ancient Rig-Veda, we find clear mention of slaves. From Aryan scripture, we get three types of slaves [Ref. Pracheen Bharotey Dash-protha : Devraj Channa] -

1. Slaves because of incurring debts

2. Slaves because of loosing in gamble

3. Slaves because of loosing in war.

Since then the slaves are denoted as captivated purchasable product. It has been legalized to have intercourse with the women of defeated side after the war as the women were considered as the "spoil of war". There are numerous examples in ancient Hindu scriptures where royal sages made relationship with slave-girls. One example may be the birth of Kaksmibaan as depicted in Rig-Veda (1|116) who was born because of the relationship between Dirghotomaa and a slave-girl of Angamhishi. Kobosh-Oilush was also a child of a slave girl.

[spurraider21]

Nothing yet that says it's evil.
thomas jefferson said it was evil

[DMC]

The Eightfold Path says one is to avoid slave trading, prostitution, buying and selling children or adults,. (Article 5). Article 4 implies much the same. Bhikkhu Bodhi: "Buddha mentions five specific kinds of livelihood which bring harm to others and are therefore to be avoided: dealing in weapons, in living beings (including raising animals for slaughter as well as slave trade and prostitution), in meat production and butchery, in poisons, and in intoxicants." (AN 5.177). (Source: Access to Insight: "The Noble Eightfold Path: The Way to the End of Suffering," by Bhikkhu Bodhi [1999])

There are other old mentions to take into account too.

So maybe Buddhism but does Buddhism consider good vs evil?

Most Buddhists believe that the negative actions and beliefs of human beings such as greed, anger and ignorance give rise to evil. ... Buddhists do not believe that human beings are evil, but they generally accept that humans create suffering through their greed, anger and ignorance.

So still they don't say slavery is evil. They just advise to avoid it.

[DMC]

thomas jefferson said it was evil

He's been canceled. Do you have a more trustworthy source?

[spurraider21]

He's been canceled. Do you have a more trustworthy source?
good to see you are trying your best to derail the conversation with nonstop shitposting

[DMC]

good to see you are trying your best to derail the conversation with nonstop shitposting

Did I derail your troll attempt? Sorry to see this happen to you! :lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao DMC's filibuster trying to distract from his abject fear of having his own take.

Now he'll talk about posters.

[Ef-man]

good to see you are trying your best to derail the conversation with nonstop shitposting

That you Reck?

Asking for a fat handed tranny on a tilt.

[Ef-man]

ECHO CHAMBER!

Bingo!

[koriwhat]

:cry anti white supremacy is an anti-white ideology :cry

The whole "anti white supremacy" is nothing more than a boogey man created by the shitfucks you place on a pedestal and the losers of twat-ter.

So much white supremacy! So many white racists! So many you can't point to one in your real life. :lmao :lol

You're a dumbfuck who should've stayed banned.

[koriwhat]

DMC all these retards are upset at you because you continue having a conversation with them but not subscribing to their retarded takes? SMH

[Blake]

DMC all these retards are upset at you because you continue having a conversation with them but not subscribing to their retarded takes? SMH

Translation: "DMC now that derp is gone, will you be the Ace to my Gary?"

[baseline bum]

Translation: "DMC now that derp is gone, will you be the Ace to my Gary?"

LOL calftats

[koriwhat]

LOL calftats

Lol Sucking up to the mods so they'll unban your sorry ass you fucking retard. :lmao

[koriwhat]

As for you BlaKKKe... You probably were there fluffing those dudes your ex wife was fucking in front of your cuckold having ass.

[baseline bum]

LOL not reading your shit, calftats

[koriwhat]

LOL not reading your shit, calftats

Yeah like I believe that bs... You're a fucking loser bro and you will continue to read every fucking thing I post; no doubt about it.

[baseline bum]

Don't make me get Joseph Kony on you again, calftats.

[Blake]

As for you BlaKKKe... You probably were there fluffing those dudes your ex wife was fucking in front of your cuckold having ass.

You're fluffing DMC in front of everyone

[ducks]

A few things where a photo ID is required:
Writing a check
Cashing a check
Using a credit card
Driving a motor vehicle
Applying for a business license
Applying for permission to hold a protest or rally
Securing employment
Purchasing a house or other real estate
Renting a domicile
Signing up for Medicare or Medicaid
Seeing a doctor
Renting a car
Renting tools
Applying for Veteran's benefits
Going to the hospital ER
Staying at a hotel
Being admitted to a hospital
Geting a document notarized
Getting a drink at a bar
Picking up a package at the post office
Getting your taxes done
Purchasing a firearm
Applying for a hunting license
Enrolling in college
Applying for a fishing license
Purchasing alcoholic beverages
Purchasing all tobacco or products that contain nicotine
Purchasing a motor vehicle
Getting access to most office buildings
Going through security at the airport
Initial registration of a motor vehicle
Applying for a building permit
Receiving prescription medicine
Purchasing OTC medicine that contains pseudoephedrine
Serving on jury duty
Opening a bank account
Cash transactions of $5000.00 or greater
Sales tax exemption for people aged 80 and above
Democrats want elections without an ID requirement, otherwise they can’t win fairly

[Winehole23]

and you cant blame jefferson for just being a victim of his time. he damn well knew it was immoral. he himself called it a great evil.

and yet he continued to hold slaves, including his own children (though their freedom was negotiated by their mother, who agreed to remain a slave for life in exchange for them to be freed when they reached the age of 21)

jefferson did a lot of great things and when looking at his lasting effects, did a lot more good than harm... but he's a complicated figure to say the least"I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just..."

[ElNono]

A few things where a photo ID is required:
Writing a check


I mean, I gave it a chance, but it fails right at delivery

[RandomGuy]

I don't care about your warped translation or the moral judgment of a leftist.


Then unwarp it.

Is slavery evil, yes or no?

[crickets]

Nathan89, this is not a difficult question.

Yes or no, is slavery evil?

[Adam Lambert]

I mean, I gave it a chance, but it fails right at delivery

I sometimes wonder if ducks is actually a real human who participates in society, or a failed AI response bot whose code was written in 2004.

[RandomGuy]

I don't care about your warped translation or the moral judgment of a leftist.

Ok then, is slavery evil, simple yes or no?

[moar crickets]

Nathan89 quit being a chickenshit.

3rd time:

Yes or no, is slavery evil?

[Winehole23]

Which ones?

Don't be coy now, say what you really mean.


I don't care about statues. I care about statutes. Let's do away with some statutes.


National Firearms Act, especially regarding suppressors.


that's the only one?

You said statutes?


No there's others but you're just going to flip through them and move on. Get to the move on part.


Fine by me if you lack the courage of your convictions even to name them.

I expected as much.

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[DMC]

So much for you moving on.

[Winehole23]

So much for you moving on.So much for you having the courage to say what you mean :lol

[Blake]

So much for you moving on.

Lol forum dictator

[RandomGuy]

I don't care about your warped translation or the moral judgment of a leftist.

[moar crickets]

Nathan89 quit being a chickenshit.

4th time:

Yes or no, is slavery evil?

[RandomGuy]

I don't care about your warped translation or the moral judgment of a leftist.

(checks watch)

Nope, you are still a chickenshit.

[Nathan89]

If your question gets ignored maybe you should reflect on the quality of your question.

[RandomGuy]

If your question gets ignored maybe you should reflect on the quality of your question.

Is slavery evil?

Seems pretty easy for anyone who is honest and not actually evil to answer.

Yes or no?

[RandomGuy]

Lol forum dictator

Is slavery evil? Yes or no.

[RandomGuy]

So much for you having the courage to say what you mean :lol

Is slavery evil? Yes or no.

[RandomGuy]

Don't make me get Joseph Kony on you again, calftats.

Is slavery evil? Yes or no.

[RandomGuy]

I sometimes wonder if ducks is actually a real human who participates in society, or a failed AI response bot whose code was written in 2004.

Is slavery evil? Yes or no.

[baseline bum]

Is slavery evil? Yes or no.

Yeah chattel slavery is pretty evil. Don't know why people don't also consider it genocide when ~1/3 of slaves being transported across the Atlantic died on the ship.

[RandomGuy]

Yeah chattel slavery is pretty evil. Don't know why people don't also consider it genocide when ~1/3 of slaves being transported across the Atlantic died on the ship.

First try. :tu Genocide would seem an appropriate term for that.

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1453345108561117187?t

[DMC]

A few things where a photo ID is required:
Writing a check
Cashing a check
Using a credit card
Driving a motor vehicle
Applying for a business license
Applying for permission to hold a protest or rally
Securing employment
Purchasing a house or other real estate
Renting a domicile
Signing up for Medicare or Medicaid
Seeing a doctor
Renting a car
Renting tools
Applying for Veteran's benefits
Going to the hospital ER
Staying at a hotel
Being admitted to a hospital
Geting a document notarized
Getting a drink at a bar
Picking up a package at the post office
Getting your taxes done
Purchasing a firearm
Applying for a hunting license
Enrolling in college
Applying for a fishing license
Purchasing alcoholic beverages
Purchasing all tobacco or products that contain nicotine
Purchasing a motor vehicle
Getting access to most office buildings
Going through security at the airport
Initial registration of a motor vehicle
Applying for a building permit
Receiving prescription medicine
Purchasing OTC medicine that contains pseudoephedrine
Serving on jury duty
Opening a bank account
Cash transactions of $5000.00 or greater
Sales tax exemption for people aged 80 and above
Democrats want elections without an ID requirement, otherwise they can’t win fairly

Ones in red are wrong

many others are redundant

But yeah

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1453345108561117187?tVoice mail threats bad now.

[daboom1]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/LameWelltodoEidolonhelvum-size_restricted.gif

[ChumpDumper]

:cry
Should all voice mail threats be taken seriously, Qhris?

a) Yes.

b) No.

c) Beep-boop.

[RandomGuy]

If your question gets ignored maybe you should reflect on the quality of your question.

Is slavery evil?

Seems pretty easy for anyone who is honest and not actually evil to answer.

Yes or no?