Game Thread: Spurs @ Nuggets — Oct. 22, 2021 - 8:00pm CT

[tim_duncan_fan]

Maybe I'm wrong but it seems Pop didn't play Devin much tonight. Maybe he was resting him for tomorrow night?

Devin played. He just wasn't aggressive.

[MannyIsGod]

For those of you being critical of Murray, have you actually looked at his stat line? Y'all act like its atrocious and outside of missing a shot or two too many and maybe 1 too many TOs its not a bad line, at all.

15 PT
7-18 FG
1-4 3p
9 Reb
6 Ast
2 Stl (honestly thought he had more - definite bigger defensive impact than this)
4 TO
+2 +/-

I'd like him to score more efficiently, but right now you all need to understand he's the best off the dribble player on this team so he has to fill that role and he's probably going to strugle at times. DJM is not Tony Parker.

[Kurgan]

goddamn what's going on with the lakers? I just turned to Espn after our game and at least I get to see them get their asses whipped lol

:lol Davis and Dwight beefing on the bench. That roster is a shitshow

[Sugus]

That's not a fair take tbh... He was clearly gassed. He starts fast and ends slow. Just needs to flip that. It should be a steady climb in intensity... The last couple games he hasn't had nothing left in the tank by the end.

No way I'm buying a "gassed" excuse regarding shooting 3's by Dejounte. I could accept it if it was a one-time occurence, but this is only an instance in a years-long trend by him of shying away from taking 3pointers of any kind, and it's only exaccerbated in crunch time tbh. It literally would've cost him less energy to stop and pull up from 3, than it would've to keep running aimlessly only to throw a prayer-pass to White to make him bail the Spurs out or sink them. Not fair to White.

You can literally see his body language regarding 3's, I don't get why it's such a topic of discussion when it's pretty cut and dry that he doesn't like taking 3's. He had a literally open one earlier in the game, hesitated by himself, and fired it short. I think that was his only attempt for the entire game. Unacceptable for your starting PG in '21.

He's not the reason we lost the game, by any stretch, btw. I'm not scapegoating Murray. It's just a long-time-coming critique of a fatal flaw in his game, and the reason I wouldn't at all mind him getting moved from the Spurs.

[flox]

Disappointed in the L but the teams gonna have nights like this. The only thing I didn’t like is the spurs gotta unload Thad Young I don’t like him playing at all


Who else we gonna play tonight with Eubanks and Poetel in foul trouble?

[Mnky]

100

That tier one D will literally keep us in most of our games this year... Kids are just gonna have to step up offensively. It's gonna be hard because they expend so much energy and effort defending.

Positive though is that we should theoretically be well experienced in tight games. Those potential yields do wonders in the playoffs should we make it.

Yea the fatigue thing is an issue. I've noticed it, and wonder how long they can maintain it and if they really can feasibly.

Dejounte white and keldon played heavy tonight. I'm glad he didn't put Forbes back in, and lonnie and Devin weren't playing the best but not sure about those minutes with this type of team. Primo and tre should get more burn to help out with that second unit. Or out one of those guys in the second unit to help stagger better.

The way they play, I don't think 35 mins a game is gonna work.

[Mr. Body]

Gave it a good shot. There were probably two shots that could have tipped it -- a miss by McDermott on the wing and a Vassell straight-on three. One of those hit, and it's much closer to a win.

Was going to be tough beating them in their home opener. Interesting to see a zone.

[The Truth #6]

DJ makes sense for the team this year. His defense kept us close with several great plays throughout. I've normally wanted to trade him, but without all the bloated veterans of last year, he fits in much better this year. I've come around on him, in part because he isn't the only distributor on the team. It's not like he's trying to emulate DDR out there. He still has flaws, but they shouldn't surprise anyone at this point. I'm more worried about Walker and Vassel being consistent.

[Dejounte]

Our shooters couldn’t shoot tonight. That and Jokic shutting down every run the Spur made. He was defended well and still made those silly looking shots. He’s MVP for a reason. “Best young Spur” Vassell didn’t show up tonight. Like I was saying, when he’s not feeling it shooting-wise, he doesn’t have a diverse enough game to do anything else yet. Yes, Murray made some bad decisions tonight but the people pointing to him as the root cause for this loss are simply wrong. Others were just as bad shooting-wise, and there’s not much more “set-up” you can do for your guys when they're not making their shots.

[XDT76]

now that makes no fucking sense whatsoever. So basically what the league is saying that there will be blatant cheating this year in the playoffs to get a Nets/Lakers finals since no more reviews under 2 mins?


Well not exactly, the ref can do a "personal review" without making it open and just do not have the video to do it. He "reviewed" his out of bound decision from Spurs ball when it hits Jokic feet to Nuggets ball when their players swarmed him.

[MannyIsGod]

The biggest problem tonight was turnovers. The Spurs simply aren't going to win many games with 20 TOs. They need to be somewhere under 15 to have a real chance to win games.

[daslicer]

Jokic was the difference maker. He shot above 70 percent from the field. If he shoots around 50 the Spurs probably win. Jokic is a top 5 player. Not much you can do when a player of that caliber goes off.

[MannyIsGod]

No way I'm buying a "gassed" excuse regarding shooting 3's by Dejounte. I could accept it if it was a one-time occurence, but this is only an instance in a years-long trend by him of shying away from taking 3pointers of any kind, and it's only exaccerbated in crunch time tbh. It literally would've cost him less energy to stop and pull up from 3, than it would've to keep running aimlessly only to throw a prayer-pass to White to make him bail the Spurs out or sink them. Not fair to White.

You can literally see his body language regarding 3's, I don't get why it's such a topic of discussion when it's pretty cut and dry that he doesn't like taking 3's. He had a literally open one earlier in the game, hesitated by himself, and fired it short. I think that was his only attempt for the entire game. Unacceptable for your starting PG in '21.

He's not the reason we lost the game, by any stretch, btw. I'm not scapegoating Murray. It's just a long-time-coming critique of a fatal flaw in his game, and the reason I wouldn't at all mind him getting moved from the Spurs.

I agree with all of this. If DJM has a consistent 3 point shot, he'd be pretty damn amazing and it is 100% the biggest flaw in his game, IMO. Its unlikely that he makes a step to become a 40% 3P shooter ever, but if dude can just hit 33% consistently then it would be a huge benefit. Then again, who's breaking down the defense to get him open 3s on this team? That right there is part of the problem.

[JeffDuncan]

The Spurs looked sharp sometimes, other times clunky. Second game of the season, as expected. It's a vastly better team to watch than the last few seasons.

[XDT76]

It'd be nice if Tre can crack the rotation soon. Team badly needs a true PG to steady the 2nd unit tbh.


He did tonight for a minute.:lol

[tim_duncan_fan]

Jokic was the difference maker. He shot above 70 percent from the field. If he shoots around 50 the Spurs probably win. Jokic is a top 5 player. Not much you can do when a player of that caliber goes off.

Even with that, we were right there. I just want more fearlessness on offense. More of the guys at least pretending to pose a threat would have been the difference for us, but no one was willing to attack.

[HankChinaski]

Posters are overreacting with just focusing on one thing and then looking at the final score.

Our Defense looked really good out there. We almost kept them under a 100 pts. That is some solid D. Spurs were scrappy and kept fighting.

Last year's squad would have just crumpled after that 9-2 run to start the 2nd half.

There was soon loose decisionmaking, players were getting good looks and not getting the 3 ball to drop.

Keldon improved and continued his play from Game 1 of the season so did White and Poeltl. Murray looked good but he would rush himself at times and awareness would drop.

Save the tape and watch this roster play better next time.

[Dejounte]

For those of you being critical of Murray, have you actually looked at his stat line? Y'all act like its atrocious and outside of missing a shot or two too many and maybe 1 too many TOs its not a bad line, at all.

15 PT
7-18 FG
1-4 3p
9 Reb
6 Ast
2 Stl (honestly thought he had more - definite bigger defensive impact than this)
4 TO
+2 +/-

I'd like him to score more efficiently, but right now you all need to understand he's the best off the dribble player on this team so he has to fill that role and he's probably going to strugle at times. DJM is not Tony Parker.

He simply is an easy target for folks who are hyper focused on things he doesn’t do as great as their ideal version of what a PG is in their mind, ignoring all the other good things he does and things he’s improved upon.

[Mnky]

Our shooters couldn’t shoot tonight. That and Jokic shutting down every run the Spur made. He was defended well and still made those silly looking shots. He’s MVP for a reason. “Best young Spur” Vassell didn’t show up tonight. Like I was saying, when he’s not feeling it shooting-wise, he doesn’t have a diverse enough game to do anything else yet. Yes, Murray made some bad decisions tonight but the people pointing to him as the root cause for this loss are simply wrong. Others were just as bad shooting-wise, and there’s not much more “set-up” you can do for your guys when they're not making their shots.

I don't think anyone said he was the root cause. People just pointed out his bad decisions and fan-posters took it to heart and exaggerated their defense of him.

He made bad decisions as a PG that he can't make for the team to win. Wasn't anything deeper than that from what I saw people post. People are just sensitive tonight.

He's the "vet" among the young guys. He should be making better decisions. That's pretty logical and straight forward.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Should have put Primo out there. He's one of those "go 0-10 and still keep shooting" kinda people. Spurs were in "nice guy" mode tonight. I didn't like it.

[Mnky]

Jokic was the difference maker. He shot above 70 percent from the field. If he shoots around 50 the Spurs probably win. Jokic is a top 5 player. Not much you can do when a player of that caliber goes off.

Star power does make a difference. Especially when they're ball dominant distributors. He makes everyone around him so much better. Dudes a beast.

[XDT76]

Even with that, we were right there. I just want more fearlessness on offense. More of the guys at least pretending to pose a threat would have been the difference for us, but no one was willing to attack.


Yesh a couple of stretch the cutting and slashing stops and whoever has the ball just settle for mid range jumper instead of attacking the rim, I still remember Poeltl shooting a FT line floater.:dizzy

[The Truth #6]

Small point, but what wtf is going on with Young? He's probably wondering if he should give a shit or not. "Am I staying or are you trading me?" No Thad, out of respect for you, we're waiting until you get so annoyed you complain, and then we either buy you out or trade you for a player with a disabling injury.

[Dejounte]

I don't think anyone said he was the root cause. People just pointed out his bad decisions and fan-posters took it to heart and exaggerated their defense of him.

He made bad decisions as a PG that he can't make for the team to win. Wasn't anything deeper than that from what I saw people post. People are just sensitive tonight.

He's the "vet" among the young guys. He should be making better decisions. That's pretty logical and straight forward.

If he wasn’t the root cause in your mind, then why is nearly 100% of your 22 posts in this game thread complaining about his play? There was a more obvious issue tonight with the team (shooting) yet I don’t see any mention of that.

[XDT76]

I was undecided earlier on whether TJ and Primo should play in G league regularly, now I hope that they do and demonstrate consistent ability to attack the rim and 3pts shooting so that they can be regular rotation players and replace 2 inconsistent guards that are on the regular rotation now.

[Sugus]

I agree with all of this. If DJM has a consistent 3 point shot, he'd be pretty damn amazing and it is 100% the biggest flaw in his game, IMO. Its unlikely that he makes a step to become a 40% 3P shooter ever, but if dude can just hit 33% consistently then it would be a huge benefit. Then again, who's breaking down the defense to get him open 3s on this team? That right there is part of the problem.

Yeah, the team is definitely missing that secondary creator that warps the defense and gets DJ off-the-ball, catch-n-shoot 3pt opportunities. I think Primo, with his shooting gravity and passing ability, could become that guy someday, but he's clearly not there yet. OTOH, though, you absolutely can't rely on C&S opportunities as the main ingredient for your 3pt shooting arsenal as a starting PG in '21. You have to be able to score them in a variety of ways, if only to keep the defense honest in a PnR.

I said it last year and it's looking to be true this year, as well: no playoff defense is going over screens on a Dejounte PnR, and it will be the death of him in due time if he doesn't work on it. I know, I know, no playoffs in near sight, so why worry about it, right? If only it worked like that...

[MannyIsGod]

He simply is an easy target for folks who are hyper focused on things he doesn’t do as great as their ideal version of what a PG is in their mind, ignoring all the other good things he does and things he’s improved upon.

There's definitely things to be critical about but people act like he's the reason they're losing. DJM is a huge part of why they held this team to 102. I keep hoping he takes another step forward, but this might just be what he is and honestly he's an amazing value for his contract but he's not capable of carrying the team offensively. Hopefully someone else on this team takes up that mantle.

If Derrick White was viewed the same way DJM was people would be far more critical of him but man that dude gets kid gloves comparatively around here.

[Biggems]

Jokic is insane

[Dejounte]

Small point, but what wtf is going on with Young? He's probably wondering if he should give a shit or not. "Am I staying or are you trading me?" No Thad, out of respect for you, we're waiting until you get so annoyed you complain, and then we either buy you out or trade you for a player with a disabling injury.

His wife is going OFF on Twitter about his DNP the other night. She hates the Spurs right now.

[Kurgan]

closer game than i thought... notable flaws were

- murray's decision making
- vassell/walker/mcdermott have to be more impactful with their outside shooting

I give leeway to Vassell and Walker as they're both still on their rookie contracts(although time is running out for Lonnie). What's McNugget's excuse? Spurs gave him 42 million this summer.

[Sugus]

If he wasn’t the root cause in your mind, then why is nearly 100% of your 22 posts in this game thread complaining about his play? There was a more obvious issue tonight with the team (shooting) yet I don’t see any mention of that.

I'm really curious whether that's a figure of speech, or if you really counted Mnky's posts on the thread one by one :lol

[Seventyniner]

His wife is going OFF on Twitter about his DNP the other night. She hates the Spurs right now.

Damn, I didn't know that. I doubt the Spurs get much more than a protected 2nd at this point, or maybe some out-of-favor younger player that would just take minutes from the rest of the team.

[Dejounte]

I'm really curious whether that's a figure of speech, or if you really counted Mnky's posts on the thread one by one :lol

If you click the post count on the thread, you’ll see each member’s post total.

[tbdog]

Pops rotation was vastly different to the Orlando game. He played white and Johnson a lot of minutes. I really think he should have given walker more minutes and played young when jokic was not on the court with the second unit.

[Sugus]

If you click the post count on the thread, you’ll see each member’s post total.

TIL, thanks! But also, it answers my question that you actually manually searched his post count, that's hilarious :lol:tu

[daslicer]

Even with that, we were right there. I just want more fearlessness on offense. More of the guys at least pretending to pose a threat would have been the difference for us, but no one was willing to attack.

I don't take much out of this game being close. During the Duncan era we saw it happen a bunch of times where a bad team was able to hang close with the Spurs for the whole entire game only for Duncan to finished them off in the final 2-3 minutes of the game. With that being said the Spurs had a great effort but when you are going up against a superstar like Jokic you really have no room for error. You have to play a perfect game to win.

[Dex]

Pops rotation was vastly different to the Orlando game. He played white and Johnson a lot of minutes. I really think he should have given walker more minutes and played young when jokic was not on the court with the second unit.

Pretty sure Pop is still trying to figure it out himself.

It’s only game 2, and yes…he is human like all of us and doesn’t always have all the right answers.

[Kurgan]

Damn, I didn't know that. I doubt the Spurs get much more than a protected 2nd at this point, or maybe some out-of-favor younger player that would just take minutes from the rest of the team.

Spurs will not get anything. They're probably going to "do right by him" and waive him so he can join a contender

[Dejounte]

Bryn or McDermott making a shot. Lonnie playing like he did in game 1. Devin playing with more confidence. Thaddeus NOT throwing up that stupid mid range shot giving the Nuggets momentum to go on a 5-0 run. Any of these would have changed the game’s result.

[widowmaker]

Oh its definitely expected

sure is. Timmy isn’t in the paint anymore our bigs right now dont have that kind of foot work.

[The Truth #6]

I don't know, I think a lot of good teams will mail it in against us, and if we play solid D, and some shots drop, we pull away with victories in games like this.

[Mnky]

If he wasn’t the root cause in your mind, then why is nearly 100% of your 22 posts in this game thread complaining about his play? There was a more obvious issue tonight with the team (shooting) yet I don’t see any mention of that.



I even say he's not the root cause and you're still trying to push that narrative because you don't really have an argument. You're just trying to create one. That was never the argument, no matter how much you attempt to spin it.. I talk about him the most for an obvious reason. He had the ball in his hands the whole night. Not going to mention the guys in the corner watching him dribble from one end of the court to the other...

You admit the same thing I pointed out, he needs to make better decisions.
That's all that was. People are just being sensitive.

Go ahead and look up all my posts. I'm a big DJ fan. I was one of a couple of posters stoked when we drafted him. I was against trading him. He's "the guy" now. He deserves to shoulder the blame as the leader. He has shown he can play better than he did tonight. Against arguably one of the top teams in the NBA, you want to see your guy show up. He has played major NBA minutes.

Not sure why spurstalk is so addicted to drama.

[XDT76]

Who else we gonna play tonight with Eubanks and Poetel in foul trouble?


Landale? At least he has the size and length to maybe bother Jokic's shot, rebound and some rim protection.

[Mnky]

TIL, thanks! But also, it answers my question that you actually manually searched his post count, that's hilarious :lol:tu

Some of these dudes spend way too much time chasing clout.

[Mnky]

His wife is going OFF on Twitter about his DNP the other night. She hates the Spurs right now.

I saw that. Honestly surprised Pop played him after all that drama.

[HankChinaski]

Murray wants to be the guy.

He is not the guy.

I still like what he is providing game to game.

This team needs to continue to play a selfless style of basketball and we had moments where the ball was moving extremely well. This roster just needs more minutes together. This game was a great exercise in playing against a tough defense it will help them sort out the discrepency on the offensive end of the court in future situations.

[Dejounte]

I even say he's not the root cause and you're still trying to push that narrative because you don't really have an argument. You're just trying to create one. That was never the argument, no matter how much you attempt to spin it.. I talk about him the most for an obvious reason. He had the ball in his hands the whole night. Not going to mention the guys in the corner watching him dribble from one end of the court to the other...

You admit the same thing I pointed out, he needs to make better decisions.
That's all that was. People are just being sensitive.

Go ahead and look up all my posts. I'm a big DJ fan. I was one of a couple of posters stoked when we drafted him. I was against trading him. He's "the guy" now. He deserves to shoulder the blame as the leader. He has shown he can play better than he did tonight. Against arguably one of the top teams in the NBA, you want to see your guy show up. He has played major NBA minutes.

Not sure why spurstalk is so addicted to drama.

Relax, dude. I’m really not going at you as much as you think I am.

anyway, here you go:

https://twitter.com/jeffgspurszone/status/1451760229868347395?s=21

IMO, you may differ in opinion but if this game is an example of Dejounte’s floor, then it really isn’t bad.

[spurraider21]

TIL, thanks! But also, it answers my question that you actually manually searched his post count, that's hilarious :lol:tu
manually implies that he went page by page and charted them tho

[HankChinaski]

manually implies that he went page by page and charted them tho

He is putting in the work. Kind of admirable.

[rudwick]

Bryn or McDermott making a shot. Lonnie playing like he did in game 1. Devin playing with more confidence. Thaddeus NOT throwing up that stupid mid range shot giving the Nuggets momentum to go on a 5-0 run. Any of these would have changed the game’s result.

I agree. Losing by 6 at Denver is not a bad result. Denver outscored them by 9 on 3-ptrs. If they make a couple more of their shots it’s a toss-up. Keep practicing those 3s.

[Chinook]

Murray wasn't perfect, but he certainly wasn't THE reason for the loss. He wasn't the first option and for the most part seemed okay with that. Maybe I missed all the actual negative comments about him. I haven't seen them, but maybe they're earlier in the game thread.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/paulgarcianba/status/1451762417218768896?s=21

Keldon had a taste of what it’s like to be a go-to scorer for the team tonight. Scored an easy 27 with the team still not passing to him for long periods at a time. It may remain that way for the season, but I’m liking what I see. Hopefully by the end, he develops further to get more opportunities as the go-to scorer.

[CGD]

Seems like spurs hung with those guys the whole time no? Not a bad showing for these young pups.

[Mnky]

Relax, dude. I’m really not going at you as much as you think I am.

anyway, here you go:

https://twitter.com/jeffgspurszone/status/1451760229868347395?s=21

IMO, you may differ in opinion but if this game is an example of Dejounte’s floor, then it really isn’t bad.

I called it with him walking off. He always owns up. One of the reasons I love him. Stats don't tell the full story, and his decisions were sub par at best. Fans get too emotional with accountability. No idea why. He will be better next game.

I do think if this is the floor, we have a lot to be excited about this year. Spurs lost a tough one against a top team with horrible shooting.

[The Truth #6]

Keldon obviously isn’t flashy. But I now see that he has actually added some things to his game in his drives and midrange. He seems to have more options now on offense.

[playblair]

this spurs team is 1 lockdown center away from being elite;.............

[Degoat]

this spurs team is 1 lockdown center away from being elite;.............

Fingers crossed that Zach Collins can be that guy lol I don’t hate Jakob but he can be frustrating af a lot of times

[playblair]

Fingers crossed that Zach Collins can be that guy lol I don’t hate Jakob but he can be frustrating af a lot of times
if the spurs can somehow land free agent mo bamba for next season that would be ideal

[BackHome]

Collins ankle is really really bad with the type of injury he had I am not really sure he will be the same player. But it’s a gamble the Spurs are betting so only time will tell.

It was a good game the better team won pure and simple but I loved seeing the young pups let of there leash. One thing hopefully Pop gets across is for all players to be more aggressive on the offense side.

[flox]

Landale? At least he has the size and length to maybe bother Jokic's shot, rebound and some rim protection.

Given where we were at that point of the game, I think I'd rather have Young. Although, given how Jokic played, I'm not sure anyone woulda really made a difference.

[playbonner15]

if the spurs can somehow land free agent mo bamba for next season that would be ideal

Mo would be a great fit

[slick'81]

Kelson seriously gunning for that MIP award

[Realdeal1]

How would the spurs look if they added Ayton to the team for next season ?Hahaha

[The Truth #6]

Random thoughts:

I think all of Forbes' minutes need to go to Tre Jones asap. Forbes looks to have little to no role with the current identity they are trying to form on this team. And, we really could use some actual point guard play, especially from the second unit. It needs to happen soon in my opinion. The flipside of this is that McB will probably lead the team in minutes, but so be it.

Young needs to be traded yesterday.

Rotation: always at least one of White or Murray, never more than one of Young/Forbes/McB, and after that, just rotate in and out based on match ups and who is playing well.

Nitpicking: Drew needs to continue to shoot the 3. He definitely could have pulled the trigger some last night. He was working on it in the OS, did well one game, but if he doesn't stick with it now, I think it could easily fade away due to low confidence.

This was a good game for us. Team Chaos kept it close. We saw more wrinkles from KJ. Not every one is going to be on at the same time. But we need at least 3 players to play well each night for us to be able to win. Tonight we had two players, but fell short.

[John B]

If they can adjust and learn from this experience, they have a good chance against Bucks at home

[SAGirl]

“Thad is the best player on the team” posters :lol
Those who want a first for him too. :blah:blah
He’s a role player that thrived playing with 2 shooting bigs in Vucevic and the maligned Markannen. He doesn’t fit with the others in this team. He might be better off elsewhere, but at current playing levels Spurs won’t get him traded. Waiver candidate.

[SAGirl]

I was impressed with some things Keldon did. His midrange shot looked really good.
this game falls into the category of games they loose bc a superstar dominates and they have no answer.

[spurraider21]

If keldon develops a 3 point shot that unlocks his ceiling to all star

[Sugus]

manually implies that he went page by page and charted them tho

Considering I didn't even know that was a feature, there's definitely a "manual" component in actively looking up how many posts another user's made, imo...


...Not that I care, though. Look it up or don't, whatever, it's a public forum. Just thought it was funny in the moment.

[Sugus]

this spurs team is 1 lockdown center away from being elite;.............

What? No way. No such thing as a "lockdown center" either in this modern NBA, where most scoring damage comes from either guards or wings.

Spurs are an elite two-way wing away, a heavy-shooting PG/Sg away, a stretch PF away, or a scoring C away, and most likely multiple of those; but they're most definitely not being held back from playoff contention by lacking a "lockdown center" :lol

[Dejounte]

The fallaway jumpers and turnaround J’s aren’t something regular role players do. Keldon needs to keep doing these things even if he keeps missing. I mean, it’s clear he’s put in practice doing such shots since they’re going in… now it’s all about confidence that comes through repetition in in-game moments.

[Dejounte]

Considering I didn't even know that was a feature, there's definitely a "manual" component in actively looking up how many posts another user's made, imo...


...Not that I care, though. Look it up or don't, whatever, it's a public forum. Just thought it was funny in the moment.

It took two clicks, bruh… you know me, I do the work ;)

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/alldaysporttalk/status/1451979377999237123?s=21

Btw, these floaters from him are becoming frequent from him that I think it will be known for being his signature move… these shots don’t even touch the rim. The net barely moves.

[spurraider21]

The floater is a necessary addition to his game. He’s strong as an ox but isn’t really able to live above the rim