Game Thread: Spurs at Pacers — Nov 1, 2021 - 6pm CT

[DC23]

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Lol. 3 pt dogs to a 1-6 team. Vegas has no love for how hard were playing tho, imo

[RC_Drunkford]

Let’s hope the guys come out focused and don’t lay an egg here. This is a must win. Some interesting info on the NBA.com power rankings:


The Spurs haven’t seen a big jump in 3-point rate with the departure of DeMar DeRozan, but that doesn’t mean that their offense hasn’t changed quite a bit. They rank fourth in ball movement (356 passes per 24 minutes of possession) and first in player movement (12.4 miles traveled per 24 minutes of possession) after ranking 29th and 16th last season. They assisted on 28 of their 39 field goals in Milwaukee on Saturday, though the two game-sealing buckets came with Dejounte Murray driving past Giannis Antetokounmpo (https://go.nba.com/pdiw) and then draining a pull-up 3 (https://go.nba.com/wsi9) over the Finals MVP.Murray struggled with his shot through the Spurs’ first four games, but is 19-for-34 over the last two (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1627749/boxscores-traditional/). He’s one of two players (https://www.nba.com/stats/players/traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&CF=GP*GE*3:PTS*GE*15:REB*GE*8:AST*GE*8&Season=2021-22&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) — Russell Westbrook is the other — averaging at least 15 points, eight rebounds and eight assists, also ranking fifth (https://www.nba.com/stats/players/hustle/?sort=DEFLECTIONS&dir=1&Season=2021-22&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) with 4.3 deflections per game. Unfortunately, he can’t play 48 minutes. The Spurs loss in overtime to the Lakers on Tuesday and by five points in Dallas on Thursday, getting outscored by 34 points in the 25:14 that Murray sat. Overall, they’ve been almost 25 points per 100 possessions (https://www.nba.com/stats/team/1610612759/onoffcourt-summary/?sort=DIFF_NET_RATING&dir=1&Season=2021-22&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) better with him on the floor (+9.8) than they’ve been with him off the floor (-15.1).

[Degoat]

Should be a good game, Wish Mcbuckets could have played and had his revenge game lol

[DPG21920]

Indy is a better team than their record imo. Still this is a game Sa can win.

[murpjf88]

Kelton should stop shooting from long range. It's basically a TO at this point.

[Leetonidas]

So why has McDermott been out? Is he actually injured?

[Sugus]

Kelton should stop shooting from long range. It's basically a TO at this point.

No way. Last thing Keldon needs is to get discouraged from his misses and stop trying entirely. You gotta have goldfish memory if you wanna be a good-to-great shooter; they'll go in eventually. Especially in the modern NBA, not shooting 3s is a death sentence tbh

[r0drig0lac]

Murray is the best player in the team bitches.

[murpjf88]

No way. Last thing Keldon needs is to get discouraged from his misses and stop trying entirely. You gotta have goldfish memory if you wanna be a good-to-great shooter; they'll go in eventually. Especially in the modern NBA, not shooting 3s is a death sentence tbh
He should play to his strengths and crash the lane. He's not a 3-point shooter.

[Dex]

What the hell, Walker? Wide open layup and he doesn't even hit rim...then a turnover.

This dude is never going to turn the corner.

[emanueldavidginobili]

First blow out of the season is gonna come from the 1-6 Pacers, of course lmao.

[Sugus]

What the hell, Walker? Wide open layup and he doesn't even hit rim

We're getting the Bad Lonnie Experience tonight with that play and the pass-to-nobody right after :lol

[Leetonidas]

Wtf is this trash

[murpjf88]

Eubanks does nothing.

[Robz4000]

:lol Ewwbanks

[Sugus]

He should play to his strengths and crash the lane. He's not a 3-point shooter.

No way, why'd you think that? He's not a finished product or close to it, he's like 22yo. While he obviously should do what he does best for the most part, it's perfectly acceptable for him to try out things that aren't yet in his comfort zone. It's called developing your game... Especially in a year where the Spurs aren't expected to be winning anything. And again, especially when we're talking about the single most important aspect of the modern game by a big margin.

It'd serve Keldon so much more to get comfortable shooting 3's than to constantly "crash the lane" that it's not even funny, tbqh.

[YoungbuckMurray]

Way too many dumb fucking turnovers. Lonnie walker was a downright disgrace with his mins so far

[emanueldavidginobili]

Don’t expect anything less from two G League quality players in Drew and Bryn. Just a disaster lmao

[Sugus]

On a side note, where the hell is Landale, Pop? We could have some variety at the non-Poeltl minutes the last few games, tbh.

Maybe he's just gearing up for the G-League tbh :lol

[Dex]

May be time to pull the plug on the Eubanks experiment early.

Put in Young, or Jock, or.....fuck it, put in me and I'll at least keep the ball in bounds.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Did Lonnie Walker and Eubanks make their first appearances on Shaqtin a Fool?

[GB20]

:lol Ewwbanks
And Pop doesn’t do shit. Eubanks should not be in the league.

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Murray is the best player in the team bitches.

it's not even close. but a bunch of ppl here were eager to ship his ass out plus two or three other players and draft picks for nephew 2 a few weeks back.

he has something not many do...a desire to be in San Antonio. you just don't ship guys like that out willy nilly.

[Robz4000]

Nice play by Eubanks.

:lol jekyll and hyde

[Dex]

Hey look, Drewbanks did something

[Robz4000]

:wow Vassell

[murpjf88]

No way, why'd you think that? He's not a finished product or close to it, he's like 22yo. While he obviously should do what he does best for the most part, it's perfectly acceptable for him to try out things that aren't yet in his comfort zone. It's called developing your game... Especially in a year where the Spurs aren't expected to be winning anything. And again, especially when we're talking about the single most important aspect of the modern game by a big margin.

It'd serve Keldon so much more to get comfortable shooting 3's than to constantly "crash the lane" that it's not even funny, tbqh.
That's what the offseason is for. To your point about the Spurs not expecting to win, why is Primo rotting away in the G-league when he should be getting on the job training with the first team?

[Leetonidas]

Embarrassing defense

[Robz4000]

Pacers gonna score 50 in the first quarter.

[YoungbuckMurray]

Defense is awful, but does every team have to make everything vs us

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vassell = candyman

[murpjf88]

Spurs can't keep up with this offensive pace. Something has to give.

[spurraider21]

missed the first quarter. what happened?

[emanueldavidginobili]

Fucking play Tre Jones over Forbes my god

[Dex]

missed the first quarter. what happened?

Murray played great, everyone else played terrible. White and Lonnie disappeared again, Johnson's playing with energy and had a nice dunk but that's about it.

Defense has been non-existent, but Pacers are also hitting everything from three...I think they are like 8/10 from three or something.

[GAustex]

SIAP
Why are Sean and Bill not at the games?

[SPURt]

Indiana can’t shoot 68% all game right? RIGHT?!

[boutons_deux]

8 threes and 1/4 80%?

[Robz4000]

missed the first quarter. what happened?

Good stuff from Murray and Vassell offensively, mediocre defensively. Rest of team is trash on both ends.

[SPURt]

vassell = candyman
I’ve been thinking he looked familiar since he was drafted! Nailed it!

[Degoat]

This seems like a good game to give Jock some run against Sabonis or Turner, Come on POP!

[Kurgan]

Murray played great, everyone else played terrible. White and Lonnie disappeared again, Johnson's playing with energy and had a nice dunk but that's about it.

Defense has been non-existent, but Pacers are also hitting everything from three...I think they are like 8/10 from three or something.

When a team hits eight threes on 80% shooting in one quarter, there's not much you can do about it. If anything, Spurs are fortunate it's only a 10 pt game atm

[Barfunk]

Man, Murray with 14 already. Would be nice to see him get a 40+ piece, but we all know Pop will probably bench him to prevent it , lol.

[murpjf88]

Derrick White is nonsense.

[Sugus]

That's what the offseason is for. To your point about the Spurs not expecting to win, why is Primo rotting away in the G-league when he should be getting on the job training with the first team?

No, the off-season is for individually working on your game, but you're never gonna get the pressure, experience, and hardships of actually busting out the moves you've worked on in an NBA game on an empty gym. There's a timing element to playing a defense, a decision-making, a managing-your-energy aspect, and so on. Or are you seriously expecting young players to come right off the bat with perfectly worked, suave-smooth, contested pull-up 3's? I seriously wonder...

And secondly, my God, is Spurstalk brain-dead and dead-set on beating the G-L horse. Primo isn't "rotting away" in the G-L, my little numb-nut. He's getting tailored training on fundamental parts of the game he's lacking in (dribbling, for starters) and will be getting quality, extensive minutes at handling the ball and a team tailored to his development, including playmaking opportunities and ball-hogging, shooting experiences, none of which he'd get riding the bench on the SanAn Spurs or playing 10 minutes a night as a 3-and-D player. Is it seriously so hard a concept that it's gotta be brought up in every single thread? Come on...

[Sugus]

Man, nobody on the Spurs can shoot a 3 to save their lives, except for DJ on a good day and maaaybe Lonnie & Vassell whenever they're feeling it. Sad to watch. Tre and especially White.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Man, nobody on the Spurs can shoot a 3 to save their lives, except for DJ on a good day and maaaybe Lonnie & Vassell whenever they're feeling it. Sad to watch. Tre and especially White.
Need Doug to come back asap, he’s a big part of this team.

[Russ]

Are the Spurs planning to send their broadcasters to any road games this year?

[KingKev]

No, the off-season is for individually working on your game, but you're never gonna get the pressure, experience, and hardships of actually busting out the moves you've worked on in an NBA game on an empty gym. There's a timing element to playing a defense, a decision-making, a managing-your-energy aspect, and so on. Or are you seriously expecting young players to come right off the bat with perfectly worked, suave-smooth, contested pull-up 3's? I seriously wonder...

And secondly, my God, is Spurstalk brain-dead and dead-set on beating the G-L horse. Primo isn't "rotting away" in the G-L, my little numb-nut. He's getting tailored training on fundamental parts of the game he's lacking in (dribbling, for starters) and will be getting quality, extensive minutes at handling the ball and a team tailored to his development, including playmaking opportunities and ball-hogging, shooting experiences, none of which he'd get riding the bench on the SanAn Spurs or playing 10 minutes a night as a 3-and-D player. Is it seriously so hard a concept that it's gotta be brought up in every single thread? Come on...

I’m with Sugus here. We have a enough young guys at the big boy level who need minutes. This season is likely lost and is about development. Primo gets to run a team as the guy in Austin. He will still get some burn in the big league and he will still he practicing with the guys I suspect.

[Robz4000]

Team playing better now.

[Leetonidas]

Walker is an embarrassment

[Dex]

What an embarrassing start for Walker

[Leetonidas]

Jesus fuck Poeltl just dunk the fucking ball

[Spursfanfromafar]

Lonnie Walker .. :(

[Dex]

We are missing bunnies and Pacers are hitting everything.

Gotta hope that evens out eventually.....

[Degoat]

did something happen to vassell? he was playing well then after a timeout pop took him out

[spurraider21]

forbes too physically limited to defed McConnel :lmao

[LakerHater]

https://images2.imgbox.com/cb/8a/7oMkyiNA_o.gif

[Leetonidas]

How many retarded passes are the spurs going to try and force in traffic and limited space?

[YoungbuckMurray]

Defense is a joke

[Uriel]

We suck.

[Leetonidas]

This is absolutely pathetic

[Dex]

We are playing like idiots, honestly. Missing easy shots, throwing the ball right into defenders hands or out of bounds...

We are lucky to only be down 12 right now.

[Uriel]

Duarte. I remember how many people on this board were begging for him in the draft.

[Dex]

Oh, now Pop decides to bring out Thad....WHAT A FUCKING IDEA

[YoungbuckMurray]

When you can’t stop them you definitely shouldn’t have lazy ass turnovers

[Barfunk]

Murray on the bench....

[emanueldavidginobili]

Blow out might see some Primo tonight!

[Dex]

Blow out might see some Primo tonight!

Primo is in Austin.

[Leetonidas]

Derrick White is so mentally soft

[Barfunk]

Fucking layup and 3 point drill.

[YoungbuckMurray]

Major step back for the team tonihjt. Embarrassing performance

[Dex]

White and Lonnie just play like they don't give a fuck.

Murray obviously cares. Johnson and Vassell play like they care. Hell, Forbes at least plays like they care.

White and Walker just make a stupid ass play or get beat, and act like nothing happened.

I know Duncan wasn't known for showing a lot of emotion....but he was also a winner. You can get away with that when you are making positive plays and not just taking up space on the court.

[GB20]

Duarte. I remember how many people on this board were begging for him in the draft.
I am glad he went to India because at least he is playing minutes this year.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Primo is in Austin.
I was being sarcastic my man

[Leetonidas]

Another fucking turnover:lmao

[Robz4000]

Welp, extended garbage time it is tonight.

[Uriel]

Fucking shit.

[SPURt]

Indiana over performing, Spurs have no answer for Sabonis and Turner, but still…

Young needs to be ahead of Master Bates-Diop if the goal is to win games.

Butts…

[Leetonidas]

Not gonna bother watching the 2nd half. No one besides Murray showed up

[Barfunk]

Meaningless :pop:

[Dex]

I was being sarcastic my man

My bad bruh, it's hard to tell these days :lol

[CGD]

Did they just hang 78 on us in first half, wow!

[Dex]

Love the halftime show.....an Air Force swearing in SUPPORTED BY YUENGLING BEER!

[RC_Drunkford]

When a team hits eight threes on 80% shooting in one quarter, there's not much you can do about it. If anything, Spurs are fortunate it's only a 10 pt game atm

we are playing zone against a team full of 3-point shooters. That’s why they are hitting everything. I understand doing that against the Bucks, but not the Pacers. Flopovich is getting outcoached by Carlisle once again. That everybody except Murray decided to suck tonight just adds on to it.

[Arcadian]

well, this is a dumpster fire of a team

[Leetonidas]

White 1-7. Get this fucking loser off my team. :lmao

Fr. This dude has been straight garbage thus far this season

[RC_Drunkford]

Indiana over performing, Spurs have no answer for Sabonis and Turner, but still…

Young needs to be ahead of Master Bates-Diop if the goal is to win games.

Butts…

the answer to that is playing Young at the 4, which is his real position anyway, and Poeltl at the 5. Slide Keldon to the 3 and take Walker out. Voila. Old man won’t do that though

[Biggems]

well this is one of those games that happens from time to time. They just don't have it tonight. It happens. Let's get some guys who hardly play some serious minutes in the 2nd half.

[RD2191]

Call me a fake fan, I ain't supporting this garbage ass team. :lol

[Robz4000]

It's time to stop with this Keldon at the 4 experiment. It isn't working.

[Robz4000]

Also, as great as Poeltl has been this season, it's concerning that every big man with a bit of offensive skill has gone off on him.

[Sugus]

A big, big mistake the Spurs are making this game is not feeding Jakob properly, tbh. They're giving him the ball at the top of the arc and just expect him to create for himself for some reason?? Why has White forgotten he's one of the best PnR ball-handlers in the league? Just get the team rolling instead of the old drive-> pass out -> drive again strategy that never works out...

[Sugus]

Also, as great as Poeltl has been this season, it's concerning that every big man with a bit of offensive skill has gone off on him.

It's a gameplan thing. You don't stop a great scoring big one-on-one in the modern NBA, they all know how to draw fouls and get you in foul trouble quick (see Embiid for example). You gotta double them and make them pass away the shot, make the rest of the team beat you.

Sadly, it's a concept that's eluded Pop for decades now, it seems. Having a SF playing at the 4, unable to provide effective help, boxing out, and rebounding, is a big part of the issue, too. Poeltl's constantly forced out of position due to teammates' limitations if you watch closer.

[SpurSpike]

Why is the Pacers arena almost completely empty?

[bbarry]

are spurs just another one of those teams that only get up for the lakers, and the defending champs?

[spurs1990]

Johnson need to adopt a Bruce Bowen role on O

[Kurgan]

are spurs just another one of those teams that only get up for the lakers, and the defending champs?

No, they're a young team. Young teams tend to be wildly inconsistent

[boutons_deux]

Pacers just can't miss

Spurs shooting 48% from the field it's usually enough to be in the game even win the game

[mo7888]

Johnson need to adopt a Bruce Bowen role on O

He's gotta learn to shoot the 3 before he can do that...

[spurs1990]

not sure popovixh got out of his seat the entire quarter

[cd98]

Why is the Pacers arena almost completely empty?

Probably not a lot of people that want to spend $$$ to watch the Spurs.

[Sugus]

Boy, the Spurs have been absolutely ice-cold all game long, from all areas of the court. Layups to threes to midrange, just ice cold. Damn.

[james evans]

this team is bad lol

[paperboy77]

Why is the Pacers arena almost completely empty?

Probably cuz it's the Spurs they're playing. OR... the covid bs.

[paperboy77]

this team is bad lol

This is the first real game that a casual would say that.

[spurs1990]

Sucks that Walker and Vassell are stuck finishing garbage time. Forbes should be getting that honor

[tbdog]

What did i miss?

[hoopdreams11]

Landale and young are both better natural passers than Drew

[Degoat]

Jock looking like the best player on the spurs those few minutes lol

[GB20]

Landale and young are both better natural passers than Drew
How can you explain that to Pop? Everybody can see it except Pop.

[james evans]

I'm gonna stop being so hard on Popovich. He's a senior citizen that lost his wife and finds joy in basketball. Like al of us, I want our franchise to return to winning, but he's a older man at the end of his life just enjoying the time he has left for the next 15-20 years or so. We're just not good now, but we will be back in it within 4 more years.

[GAustex]

So fun last game
So sad this game
Indy picked our young guards non stop and exposed our naivety. What a butt kicking

[GAustex]

The size disadvantage hurt.
The tank was on tonite

[Arcadian]

Don't the Spurs always suck against Indiana though?

[slick'81]

(2-5) never felt soo good,tbh

fun game tonight

[The Truth #6]

Worst game of the season. The Pacers shot lights out and played smart. Pop playing Forbes increasingly more was inevitable and awful. But lots of our players just looked bad tonight.

[slick'81]

11th seed is all ours now

[John B]

Watching Jock play was the only fun thing about that game. He sure likes to dunk that ball :lol

[slick'81]

Watching Jock play was the only fun thing about that game. He sure likes to dunk that ball :lol


thaddeus carrol stock falling :rollin

[TDomination]

I love how after coming on strong against the bucks, young doesn’t see action until about 4 minutes to go in the 2nd. Like meh I guess I’ll put you in. Forbes and Eubanks are both much better than you but if I have a chance I’ll put you in as a last resort.

[Spurs Homer]

Wasnt duarte picked AFTER Primo?

but primo is shipped to austin

pop mailed this fucking game in- didnt even give a fuck for all 48 mins
he looked like a covid patient just waiting to go to bed

[HankChinaski]

I missed tonight's game. Nice to see the suicide brigade in tow tonight.

I'm just glad we don't have to see Demar and Aldridge spurs lineup anymore.

[TDomination]

I had a feeling the team would come out flat today. They experienced their first high as a team with the win against the bucks and this was their response. They have a lot to learn. But unfortunately they are quite limited and will need their high energy defense to keep them in every game and if they don’t bring that same energy like the brought the first 6 games, then you’ll see more results like tonight’s.

[hoopdreams11]

Watching Jock play was the only fun thing about that game. He sure likes to dunk that ball :lol

Made a top of the key 3 also

[GAustex]

Just looked at the league wide standings.
Spurs got to suck harder

[BackHome]

Wasnt duarte picked AFTER Primo?

but primo is shipped to austin

pop mailed this fucking game in- didnt even give a fuck for all 48 mins
he looked like a covid patient just waiting to go to bed

Kinda agree with you a little but Duarte is 24 years old and Primo is 18 years old so a 6 year difference in experience

[BackHome]

Just looked at the league wide standings.
Spurs got to suck harder

Yeah Orlando, OK, Detroit, and Houston not even trying to look like they tanking hard.

[slick'81]

Yeah Orlando, OK, Detroit, and Houston not even trying to look like they tanking hard.

spurs are not touching a top 6 pick this season

[Proxy]

I had a feeling the team would come out flat today. They experienced their first high as a team with the win against the bucks and this was their response. They have a lot to learn. But unfortunately they are quite limited and will need their high energy defense to keep them in every game and if they don’t bring that same energy like the brought the first 6 games, then you’ll see more results like tonight’s.

it's the opposite pov from when the spurs were elite and we'd see trash teams play out of their minds against sa, and then lose to whatever other mediocre team they played the next day... like how the old bucks would beat us all the time lol

[Degoat]

Derozan had 37 tonight and 3 out of 4 from downtown, glad we got Thaddeus young tho lmao

[slick'81]

Derozan had 37 tonight and 3 out of 4 from downtown, glad we got Thaddeus young tho lmao

bulls are (5-1)

[playbonner15]

I missed tonight's game. Nice to see the suicide brigade in tow tonight.

I'm just glad we don't have to see Demar and Aldridge spurs lineup anymore.

yeah this young team's more bearable to watch

[The Truth #6]

A lot of young players who are inconsistent. That pretty much sums it up. Good to see DJ shooting well.

[slick'81]

Mavs,thunder and magic upcoming..(4-6)incoming

[spurs1990]

Derozan had 37 tonight and 3 out of 4 from downtown, glad we got Thaddeus young tho lmao

If anything that's an indictment on DeRozan. He didn't even try to shoot from 3 last year. It's becoming more evident that was deliberate ploy on his part. Holding back on something he could've provided the Spurs.

[superbigtime]

Sounds like agony. We gonna see grades?

[GAustex]

The Aussie played great.
Wonder why pop did not counter indys twin towers with 3 bigs?

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I’ve been thinking he looked familiar since he was drafted! Nailed it!

yeah, it dawned on me watching Night of the Living Dead the other day. It hit me that Vassell was who he minded me of. Tony Todd is the actor, who of course as mentioned, also played Candyman.

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yeah, it dawned on me watching Night of the Living Dead the other day. It hit me that Vassell was who he minded me of. Tony Todd is the actor, who of course as mentioned, also played Candyman.

It's not a bad nickname to have either. The Candyman can.

[talkspurs]

If anything that's an indictment on DeRozan. He didn't even try to shoot from 3 last year. It's becoming more evident that was deliberate ploy on his part. Holding back on something he could've provided the Spurs.

I would say this is more on pop for him not pushing him to shoot 3s. I dont see why DDR would just choose to all of a sudden stop shooting them when he comes here and then starts as soon as he leaves. There is a reason why we have been a low 3pt shooting team for years.

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I love how after coming on strong against the bucks, young doesn’t see action until about 4 minutes to go in the 2nd. Like meh I guess I’ll put you in. Forbes and Eubanks are both much better than you but if I have a chance I’ll put you in as a last resort.

EXACTLY this. Pop has a way of destroying his players' souls. Thad demonstrated a skill in that game of running the offense from the top of the key that kept the Buck's players on their heels, then doesn't even get subbed in until the game is already out of hand. It's truly soul-sucking to be on his team. And heaven forbid if you had the temerity to ask him about it in the post-game. Fuck pop.

[Robz4000]

If anything that's an indictment on DeRozan. He didn't even try to shoot from 3 last year. It's becoming more evident that was deliberate ploy on his part. Holding back on something he could've provided the Spurs.

He never wanted to be here in the first place tbh. Regardless, dude isn't a winner; he'll show his true colors when the Bulls need him most.

[tbdog]

Derozan had 37 tonight and 3 out of 4 from downtown, glad we got Thaddeus young tho lmao

This. Fucking laughable that people here thought that losing DDR was an addition by substation, and that white, Murray, walker had this untapped offensive potential but DDR took their touches.

DDR is a really good player. Really good. Just not to 15 good where he could take teams on deep playoff runs.

[Spurs Homer]

Kinda agree with you a little but Duarte is 24 years old and Primo is 18 years old so a 6 year difference in experience

Age is irrelevant

both came into the league at the exact same time -

primo was even picked higher -yet cannot see the fucking floor and by seasons end -

duarte might improve 1000% more than primo who MIGHT get some garbage minutes behind shit players like forbes

[daslicer]

This. Fucking laughable that people here thought that losing DDR was an addition by substation, and that white, Murray, walker had this untapped offensive potential but DDR took their touches.

DDR is a really good player. Really good. Just not to 15 good where he could take teams on deep playoff runs.

Derozan is definitely not a number 1 guy but he can be a number 2 or 3 guy on a good team. Spurs failed to put a good team around him. The bulls have young guys on the wings that are athletic and can cover for him defensively, and they also have a good big in Vucevic that compliments him better than LMA did.

[murpjf88]

He never wanted to be here in the first place tbh. Regardless, dude isn't a winner; he'll show his true colors when the Bulls need him most.
Unlike the Spurs, the Bulls don't need DeRozan to carry them. They have lots of NBA level talent. His overall numbers suggest he's playing no differently than he did for the Spurs last year. He may not have wanted to be here, but he was still professional about it.

[murpjf88]

If anything that's an indictment on DeRozan. He didn't even try to shoot from 3 last year. It's becoming more evident that was deliberate ploy on his part. Holding back on something he could've provided the Spurs.
SSS not withstanding, He's shooting a robust 31% from three. That's not good.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol fck this team

[slick'81]

Hopefully in 5 years the bulls dont suck enough we miss out on that frp

[tim_duncan_fan]

Can we please just watch Primo? There is nothing else to get out of this season besides watching Primo and getting a high draft pick.

I am feeling SO let down by guys like White and Keldon. Or just bummed that reality about them has come crashing in, really.

White in particular really does just want to be a glue guy and nothing more. Disheartening.

[slick'81]

This. Fucking laughable that people here thought that losing DDR was an addition by substation, and that white, Murray, walker had this untapped offensive potential but DDR took their touches.

DDR is a really good player. Really good. Just not to 15 good where he could take teams on deep playoff runs.

Ddr is a really good player,really good :lobt2:

[itzsoweezee]

This. Fucking laughable that people here thought that losing DDR was an addition by substation, and that white, Murray, walker had this untapped offensive potential but DDR took their touches.

DDR is a really good player. Really good. Just not to 15 good where he could take teams on deep playoff runs.

Nah. He’s still what he’s always been. We’ve seen this movie before. The bulls will flame out in the first round, at best.

[itzsoweezee]

I don’t understand what Johnson’s role is. He seems like an energy guy off the bench rather than a key starter. I think some of the problems on offense would go away with vassell in there.

[slick'81]

Nah. He’s still what he’s always been. We’ve seen this movie before. The bulls will flame out in the first round, at best.


it is funny how after dealing with us tor/chi they become instantly better while sours stay in neutral

[Robz4000]

Thunder really know how to tank tbh.

[skin27]

Like I said spurs need to tank…there is no hope on this current roster

[slick'81]

Like I said spurs need to tank…there is no hope on this current roster

we know spurs aren't tanking. They'll beat enough "bottom feeders " to avoid the top10,tbh

[skin27]

we know spurs aren't tanking. They'll beat enough "bottom feeders " to avoid the top10,tbh


spurs need to tank and hope to get top 3 picks..so that they can move on and dump this trash roster!!lol

[slick'81]

spurs need to tank and hope to get top 3 picks..so that they can move on and dump this trash roster!!lol


lol, how many seasons have we been saying that? 3? Since the kawhi debacle

[tbdog]

Derozan is definitely not a number 1 guy but he can be a number 2 or 3 guy on a good team. Spurs failed to put a good team around him. The bulls have young guys on the wings that are athletic and can cover for him defensively, and they also have a good big in Vucevic that compliments him better than LMA did.

Yes. DDR isn't going to be your batman. That ship sunk everytime it came to the docks. But he still was by far our best player.

[tbdog]

Derozan is definitely not a number 1 guy but he can be a number 2 or 3 guy on a good team. Spurs failed to put a good team around him. The bulls have young guys on the wings that are athletic and can cover for him defensively, and they also have a good big in Vucevic that compliments him better than LMA did.

Yes. DDR isn't going to be your batman. That ship sunk everytime it came to the docks. But he still was by far our best player.

[slick'81]

Yes. DDR isn't going to be your batman. That ship sunk everytime it came to the docks. But he still was by far our best player.


Yes. That happens when you trade away your best player (kawhi) to get Demar

[skin27]

lol, how many seasons have we been saying that? 3? Since the kawhi debacle


spurs did not tank after kawhi left..so now I think best scenario for this team to return to contention is to tank..

[slick'81]

spurs did not tank after kawhi left..so now I think best scenario for this team to return to contention is to tank..

would be nice. Still,spurs aren't touching a top 6 pick this season barring a major injury or collapse

[RC_Drunkford]

spurs did not tank after kawhi left..so now I think best scenario for this team to return to contention is to tank..

they won’t tank until Flopovich got his record

[Fireball]

excitement is slowly fading ...

[Slippy]

Team couldnt get stops .. set the tone in the 1st quarter giving up 40 . So far this season they've been good enough on that end.

DDR makes the defense worse so not sure how he helps.

[duncan2k5]

Yes. DDR isn't going to be your batman. That ship sunk everytime it came to the docks. But he still was by far our best player.

and he led us to the lottery for 2 straight years...in a weak west

[james evans]

This is the first real game that a casual would say that.
A casual? I watch about 70+ games a year hahaha. wtf. I've been on this site 5 years longer than you!!!

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Pacers shot great

[Seventyniner]

Derozan had 37 tonight and 3 out of 4 from downtown, glad we got Thaddeus young tho lmao

The Spurs were never going to give DDR the same contract the Bulls did. It was S&T or let him walk.

DDR also made a corner 3 that didn't count because he let it go just after the shot clock hit zero. He was a split second away from 40 points and 4/5 from three.

[tbdog]

and he led us to the lottery for 2 straight years...in a weak west

Because we were paying a guy 24 mil to not play for us. Then the year before we're starting Bryn Forbes and fucking Lyles, in the god-damn west.

[paperboy77]

A casual? I watch about 70+ games a year hahaha. wtf. I've been on this site 5 years longer than you!!!

Just saying your comment was something a casual would say. Been a fan since the late 80's. Back in the Cadillac Anderson days. Been lurking here way before joining.

[Dex]

This is really the first game of the season that hasn't been competitive. Sucks that it came against the likes of the Pacers, but we probably will have to accept that this young team is just going to put up some duds like that.

Amazingly, we ended the game with a higher three-point percentage, albeit on 10 less attempts. But yeah, the damage was done early and this team just doesn't have the firepower to come back from a lot of 20-point deficits.

As others have said, White and Walker really need to get their heads in the game. It's one thing to have a poor game or bad shooting night, but they've both started poorly this season and frankly just look like they don't know their role. Spurs can't afford for them to only show up once every five games.

[james evans]

Just saying your comment was something a casual would say. Been a fan since the late 80's. Back in the Cadillac Anderson days. Been lurking here way before joining.
well I'm definitely not a casual lol.

[John B]

This is really the first game of the season that hasn't been competitive. Sucks that it came against the likes of the Pacers, but we probably will have to accept that this young team is just going to put up some duds like that.

Amazingly, we ended the game with a higher three-point percentage, albeit on 10 less attempts. But yeah, the damage was done early and this team just doesn't have the firepower to come back from a lot of 20-point deficits.

As others have said, White and Walker really need to get their heads in the game. It's one thing to have a poor game or bad shooting night, but they've both started poorly this season and frankly just look like they don't know their role. Spurs can't afford for them to only show up once every five games.

Pacers converted 18 3pts at 48%. It was too much to overcome, granted Spurs committed some unforced errors early. But the efforts were there imo, or it would’ve been a bigger blowout.

[emanueldavidginobili]

More Tre and Jock less Forbes and Eubanks.

[boutons_deux]

34 AST on 47 FG, team ball, little isolation

FG 53%

3G 50%

that will win 80% of the games

[The Truth #6]

DDR was a bad fit here. Awful. In a fantasy parallel world I could see him doing better if they made him the “Harden” and surrounded him with shooters, but that would mean we had shooters and no LMA.

But yeah, the Pacers game was the first bad one. They shot lights out and we were dead after that.

[Seventyniner]

I was watching Around the Horn and they mentioned that the league as a whole has the lowest 3PT% in a while: 34.2% right now versus 36% or so for the last 8 seasons.

Some players were blaming the new ball, which is what prompted the segment. But the numbers don't lie, and it's not just the Spurs hitting fewer of their threes than one would expect.

[boutons_deux]

DDR was a bad fit here. Awful. In a fantasy parallel world I could see him doing better if they made him the “Harden” and surrounded him with shooters, but that would mean we had shooters and no LMA.

But yeah, the Pacers game was the first bad one. They shot lights out and we were dead after that.

Pacers hit 8? 3Gs in 1st qtr? Only the toughest teams could overcome that.

Look at Spurs team stats, probably their BEST numbers so far.

the AST/FG is very encouraging