Future Spur Chet Holmgren

[Trill Clinton]

Chet had a great debut for Gonzaga. Can't wait to see this in SA next year!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zte3H0KMXM

[itzsoweezee]

Hell no

[rjv]

paolo was very impressive too, jalen duren had a nice debut for memphis and patrick baldwin posted a double-double as well. i'm not sure how jabari smith looked.

[MultiTroll]

From my eyes on friend:

In scrimmages Chet has looked dominant.
Take that FWIW but Gonzaga has been killing it in recent years in recruiting so the opposing Center and F's are not a marshmallows.

NBA player my friend likens Chets game to: Durbetta. Yep. Besides having a consistent trey dude can dribble.
But see for yourself as Trill posted the vid.

[MultiTroll]

True he needs to eat many more sandwiches but i say hell yes for todays NBA.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

They'll need a lot of luck with lottery balls in order to be able to land Chet.

[8FOR!3]

Was Durant ever that awkward in the way he moved? Chet also seems even more lanky. I will say, his handles for his size are pretty impressive and he seems to already be a skilled offensive player. But I do worry that he just doesn't move well enough for the NBA level.

[MultiTroll]

They'll need a lot of luck with lottery balls in order to be able to land Chet.
:pop:

[MultiTroll]

But I do worry that he just doesn't move well enough for the NBA level.
Even super athletic Greek Freak wasn't as agile and strong as he is now, obviously.
Chet is only 19 with his college year just beginning.

I haven't seen a 7'0" h.s. / college prospect who can move like this in ____? You?

As to his height and shooting, Dork Novistky wasn't the most agile but got off tons of shots with his height. Ditto Jokic. Altho Chet not nearly as strong as those two can see Chet doing the same.

A huge concern is when some bitches like the Morris girls drill Chet in the ribs.

[Russ]

Chet Holmgren.

The white Kevin Durant?

Or the second coming of Shawn Bradley?

It will be interesting to watch him this season.

[lmbebo]

Talent. Needs to get some weight/strength. Guess it depends on where he would be picked... at #3, not sure I love. At #11? yeah.

[pookenstein]

He looks like you could hide two or three of him behind KD. Imagine the first SA girl he tries to fuck. Dude will be broken in half.

[vy65]

Marfan Syndrome ain’t no joke

[baseline bum]

Talent. Needs to get some weight/strength. Guess it depends on where he would be picked... at #3, not sure I love. At #11? yeah.

Man would he have to have a disastrous season to fall to #11.

[JeffDuncan]

You just know that OKC will get him somehow. Holmgren & Poku, twin towers.

[Mr. Body]

From my eyes on friend:

In scrimmages Chet has looked dominant.
Take that FWIW but Gonzaga has been killing it in recent years in recruiting so the opposing Center and F's are not a marshmallows.

NBA player my friend likens Chets game to: Durbetta. Yep. Besides having a consistent trey dude can dribble.
But see for yourself as Trill posted the vid.

Zaga has an enormous advantage in that their conference is abysmal. They face good teams in non-conference and then it's a cakewalk. They always get a high seed in the tournament.

[The Truth #6]

Durant vs Shawn Bradley. Yeah, that sums it up for me. I need to watch more of him.

[Darius Bieber]

Holmgren may have more upside, but Banchero looks more ready and polished. He's also not a twig who will have an ACL tear or broken bone anytime he lands.

Holmgren going first pick and Banchero going second may be an exact replica of Greg Oden going first and Durant going second.

[paperboy77]

Chet Holmgren.

The white Kevin Durant?

Or the second coming of Shawn Bradley?

It will be interesting to watch him this season.

It's already pretty clear the Bradley comp is N/A. Prior to reading these posts I kinda thought Durant-ish type player. Only issue I would think could be a guy that big tends to have recurring injuries. He definitely has confidence which we all know from some of our Spurs players means a lot.

At this point it would be a dream if we picked him up.

[vy65]

22/7/2 over #10 Kentucky is way more impressive than 14/13/6 over IOU university or whatever the fuck they're called

[itzsoweezee]

Durant vs Shawn Bradley. Yeah, that sums it up for me. I need to watch more of him.

More like Bol Bol

[rjv]

Holmgren may have more upside, but Banchero looks more ready and polished. He's also not a twig who will have an ACL tear or broken bone anytime he lands.

Holmgren going first pick and Banchero going second may be an exact replica of Greg Oden going first and Durant going second.

i'd take banchero over holmgren.

[KingKev]

I’m a buyer.

[spurs1990]

Check out Emoni Bates from Memphis State.
It's only one game into the CBB season but we're looking at at least a 3-man draft with Holmgren, Banchero, and Bates.

***Bates is technically not eligible for the draft due to turning 19 in Jan 2023, but I'd imagine there will be some finagling with the draft bylaws to get him in this upcoming draft.

If Bates isn't in, then his teammate Jalen Duren (6'11, 250) is a good candidate.
Duke has a blue chip guard who had a great outing last night vs Kentucky - Trevor Kheels - 6'4. A perfect guy to take Derrick White's SG slot.

Spurs getting a top-5 pick should merit a day 1 starter for next year. 3-7 is good for #5 lotto odds. I think when Houston gets Wall back and NO gets Zion, they should start winning more games.

Leave Orlando and Detroit as the main competition for best odds.

[cd98]

If only a young Tim Duncan was in college right now, then we would tank. Pop had no problem tanking for Tim. Why won't he tank for anyone else?

[lmbebo]

Check out Emoni Bates from Memphis State.
It's only one game into the CBB season but we're looking at at least a 3-man draft with Holmgren, Banchero, and Bates.

***Bates is technically not eligible for the draft due to turning 19 in Jan 2023, but I'd imagine there will be some finagling with the draft bylaws to get him in this upcoming draft.

If Bates isn't in, then his teammate Jalen Duren (6'11, 250) is a good candidate.
Duke has a blue chip guard who had a great outing last night vs Kentucky - Trevor Kheels - 6'4. A perfect guy to take Derrick White's SG slot.

Spurs getting a top-5 pick should merit a day 1 starter for next year. 3-7 is good for #5 lotto odds. I think when Houston gets Wall back and NO gets Zion, they should start winning more games.

Leave Orlando and Detroit as the main competition for best odds.


Houston isn't getting Wall back. They've asked him to stay home this season and are trying to trade him.

[Trill Clinton]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvvqJ1yjyic


:reading

[spurs1990]

Houston isn't getting Wall back. They've asked him to stay home this season and are trying to trade him.

Holy *%#. How does Silver let this sort of underhandedness fly. Saving grace is the bottom 3 records get the same lotto odds.

[spurraider21]

he's basically what people were pretending samanic would end up being

[Ocotillo]

So off to the G-League and get some beef on that frame.

[cd98]

So off to the G-League and get some beef on that frame.

Well, San Antoni would be perfect. Between breakfast tacos and Whataburger, we could have him looking very San Antonio in a few months. Maybe Dejuan Blair could be his nutritionist.

[Seventyniner]

Houston isn't getting Wall back. They've asked him to stay home this season and are trying to trade him.

Right. I don't think Houston has any intention of even trying to win this year. Same goes for the Magic/Pistons/Thunder.

The Pelicans will probably tank by accident by starting off slow (check), getting Zion back and making a mini-run, then shutting the good players down in March when they realize a playoff push isn't possible.

Right now I expect the Spurs/Wolves/Kings to finish 10-12 in some order, with the Wolves and Kings (and maybe the Spurs too) pushing hard at the end of the season to get the #10 spot.

[Robz4000]

Bates is gonna be the best player in next year's draft class imo. Just can't trust white American basketball players tbh.

[rjv]

Houston isn't getting Wall back. They've asked him to stay home this season and are trying to trade him.

wall was actually in attendance for the kentucky-duke game.

[jjspur]

Is that Shawn Bradley Jr. ? Dude needs to eat super sized foods at Mcdonald's for a year. He has some skills but I think the ball boys weigh more than him.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Bates is gonna be the best player in next year's draft class imo. Just can't trust white American basketball players tbh.

Wembanyama looking like a clear number 1 prospect in 2023.

[Leetonidas]

Can't wait to see him in Austin you mean:lol

Tbh i just can't buy a dude named "Chet" being a star basketball player

[MultiTroll]

Is that Shawn Bradley Jr. ? Dude needs to eat super sized foods at Mcdonald's for a year. He has some skills but I think the ball boys weigh more than him.
True but remember Durbeta was and is a twig also.
Modern day NBA does not require centers to be Apes.

For that matter he could be a forward.

Would you rather have Bryn Forms-Popovich on the roster or a guy named Chet?

[offset formation]

From my eyes on friend:

In scrimmages Chet has looked dominant.
Take that FWIW but Gonzaga has been killing it in recent years in recruiting so the opposing Center and F's are not a marshmallows.

NBA player my friend likens Chets game to: Durbetta. Yep. Besides having a consistent trey dude can dribble.
But see for yourself as Trill posted the vid.

He's Porzingis II

NO.

[MultiTroll]

He's Porzingis II

NO.
I'll bet Chet at 19 with one college game is better then Zinger at 19.

[Thomas82]

i'd take banchero over holmgren.

I would rather have Jalen Duran. I wouldn't touch any of those Duke players.

[offset formation]

I'll bet Chet at 19 with one college game is better then Zinger at 19.

Perhaps, but he's gonna have a similar ceiling. He's a better dribbler but unless the kid can take a body he'll always get bumped out of position.

As for his 1 college game, the opposition was simply embarrassing in practically everyone of those highlights. Case in point that transition D on his last bucket no one even tries to stop him. It was like playing against a YMCA rec league team. I'll grant him nothing in terms of showing out from that game. Let's see how he fares against better talent.

[Uriel]

Remember when people were calling Jan Vesley the Euro Durant?

[Ditty]

He’s phenomenal. Unfortunately I don’t think we are going to suck enough to be one of the three worst teams. We will have to get lucky in lottery.

[Gibbz]

Remember when people were calling Jan Vesley the Euro Durant?

I remember that it was Blake Griffin, because when Vesely got drafted he said, "Blake Griffin is American Jan Vesely."

[jjspur]

I'd rather have Chet but can you imagine him taking a charge from Giannis or Joel Embiid ? It wouldn't be pretty.

[Larry O]

Can't wait to see him in Austin you mean:lol

Tbh i just can't buy a dude named "Chet" being a star basketball player


Well... we may not see him in Austin, soon, but Austin (The Longhorns) is going to him this Saturday night! This will be an opportunity to knock out 2 birds with one stone, as the Horns have a new coach in Chris Beard, with a whole lot of high expectations! Texas is ranked 5th, while the Zags are ranked 1st. Should be a good game, but to also scout this future (Spurs) draft pick! :)

No. 5 Texas vs. No. 1 Gonzaga. When: 9:30 p.m. Saturday at McCarthey Athletic Center in Spokane, Washington. Records: Texas (1–0 overall, 0-0 Big 12), Gonzaga (1-0, 0-0 West Coast Conference ...

[Larry O]

Well... we may not see him in Austin, soon, but Austin (The Longhorns) is going to him this Saturday night! This will be an opportunity to knock out 2 birds with one stone, as the Horns have a new coach in Chris Beard, with a whole lot of high expectations! Texas is ranked 5th, while the Zags are ranked 1st. Should be a good game, but to also scout this future (Spurs) draft pick! :)

No. 5 Texas vs. No. 1 Gonzaga. When: 9:30 p.m. Saturday at McCarthey Athletic Center in Spokane, Washington. Records: Texas (1–0 overall, 0-0 Big 12), Gonzaga (1-0, 0-0 West Coast Conference ...

Oh it's on ESPN 2, BTW.

[spurraider21]

i think a gordon hayward type injury is inevitable with this guy.

[Kurgan]

I would never gamble on a white American being a franchise player. Regardless, Spurs won't draft that high for this to be a concern.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Was Durant ever that awkward in the way he moved? Chet also seems even more lanky. I will say, his handles for his size are pretty impressive and he seems to already be a skilled offensive player. But I do worry that he just doesn't move well enough for the NBA level.

No he was very fluid from day 1 in college. Dribbled faster and lower too.

This guy looks slow and awkward AF with the ball IMO. ESP compared to a Durant, whom I hate with a passion.

[MultiTroll]

He's Porzingis II
Peak Porzy 2 (prior to injury) would be better then any PF the Poppers have run out in the last 7 years.

Lets see what develops this season.

[8FOR!3]

No he was very fluid from day 1 in college. Dribbled faster and lower too.

This guy looks slow and awkward AF with the ball IMO. ESP compared to a Durant, whom I hate with a passion.

Yeah I agree he doesn't move very well, it's a big concern.

[BatManu20]

Spurs ain’t sniffing Chet. Too many tanking teams ahead of us and the Spurs are too prideful. We’ll likely end up selecting somewhere between 9-14 imo.

[slick'81]

Spurs ain’t sniffing Chet. Too many tanking teams ahead of us and the Spurs are too prideful. We’ll likely end up selecting somewhere between 9-14 imo.

spurs currently have the 7th worst record overall in the nba

[kht]

This guy moves so slow. KD actually moves fluidly.

[dbestpro]

This guy moves so slow. KD actually moves fluidly.

KD has always been effective but I would not call him fluid. Sort of like how Larry Bird would play. George Gervin was fluid and smooth. I would not call this kid, fluid either. More like an ooze.

[mo7888]

I think we end up with a top 6 pick in this draft. I have no idea where Chet will go and haven't paid any attention to the college guys yet but, if he's in that range I expect us to have a shot if we play this season as presently constructed.

[Vic Petro]

Is there precedent for a kid that’s almost 20 and still only 195 at 7-foot becoming a star in the league? Can’t think of another example

[dbestpro]

2 points and 4 fouls vs Texas. Timms stole the show.

[Uriel]

So many haters in this thread. :lol If the Spurs lucked into drafting this guy, we could have our first franchise-level player since Nephew.

[MultiTroll]

Is there precedent for a kid that’s almost 20 and still only 195 at 7-foot becoming a star in the league? Can’t think of another example
https://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/976/180/kevin-durantslump_display_image.jpg?1306800558
https://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/976/193/TayshaunPrince_display_image.jpg?1306800837

[MultiTroll]

https://youtu.be/M64Yift33_I

[itzsoweezee]

So many haters in this thread. :lol If the Spurs lucked into drafting this guy, we could have our first franchise-level player since Nephew.

L o LLL

I watched the first half of the Texas game. This dude has no place in any discussion on franchise level players.

[pookenstein]

https://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/976/180/kevin-durantslump_display_image.jpg?1306800558
https://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/976/193/TayshaunPrince_display_image.jpg?1306800837

I get KD, but why the pic of T. Prince?

[Vic Petro]

https://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/976/180/kevin-durantslump_display_image.jpg?1306800558
https://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/976/193/TayshaunPrince_display_image.jpg?1306800837

Durant was 6’10, 215 lbs coming out. 20 pounds is a big difference

[MultiTroll]

I get KD, but why the pic of T. Prince?
Skinnys that had a productive NBA career.


Durant was 6’10, 215 lbs coming out. 20 pounds is a big difference
So Chet has the rest of this season and next summer to gain 25 pounds.
Probably not going to happen but maybe add some PEDs to his buffet line.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

They made fun of KD not being able to bench press the bar coming out of college :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Republicans really hyping up the next Tyler Hansbrough :lmao

This kid is awful, future Brian Wright pick for sure with his complexion

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Well, the Spurs are playing their way to a top 6 pick...not bad.

[Larry O]

2 points and 4 fouls vs Texas. Timms stole the show.

Oh yeah, Drew Timme DID steal the show on Saturday night against Texas! Poor Chet only had two points, but his presence on the defensive end created disruption in the paint He did look slow & he needs to beef up a couple of pounds, :) but to compare him to KD? Hmmm... Now, if he's drafted by a NBA team, he's gotta be more "fluid." But Timme? This guy was in beast mode against Texas with the following stats: 37 points: 15/19, & was 0-1 from the 3 point line, which he will have to work on to be a successful PF in the NBA. He had 7 Rebs & 3 assists in 31 minutes of play. The 21 year old 6-10 PF has been compared to Kevin McHale. Here's an excerpt from CBS Sports postgame report which describes Timme's game & comparison:

At the center of it is Timme, who isn't the strongest or fastest or most overwhelming. He's none of that. He's solid. He's smart. He's great in his own way, which makes the rest of the team great. In an era of ever-evolving big men with perimeter-insistent skillsets, Timme remains a charming-yet swaggy-throwback. Some have compared his ability to move in to the post to a young Kevin McHale. Timme seems to know all the angles and myriad ways to find his points near the rim.
"He's a load, man!" said Texas' Timmy Allen. "He's not the most athletic guy, but I've never played someone like that. It's hard to guard a guy like that when they have such good players round him too."
Although, we would like for our PF to be an athletic freak who can pound in the paint, block shots as well as hit 3 pointers, I can easily see Timme as a player that PATFO could draft. He's from Richardson, Tx & is a smart player who may be able to fit in the culture & in the Spurs' system. Unsure if he will be a top 5 pick or not, but I'm sure that his stock will be on the rise if he continues to play well in the NCAA, & who knows, surpass Holmgren! :) Who knows? He currently wears #2 & that name, "Timme!" The possibilities... Any who, just putting it out there... GSG!!!

[BackHome]

For me I agree Baldwin would probably be my first pick depending where we draft as he would be a GREAT stretch four for us. If we can get into 4 to 6 draft we got a chance at him or another big Jabari Smith. After that I would be looking at Collins who is a beast on defense but definitely will take some time to reach potential on the offensive side. Another kid is is Caleb Houston a SF who has a sweet stroke definitely worth a look.

After that some guys who intrigue me is Nikola Jovic a PF from Serbia who just plays Nasty he can be a really good point forward and does a little bit of everything and he is opposite of Luka the kid has Heart. Next would be Mouhamed Gueye who is a freak athlete would definitely need to play in G League a season or two but tons of possible upside.

Another kid who is going to try and be draft eligible is Shaedon Sharpe a SG who is projected to go number 2 in 2023 draft. Curious to see what people think of him?

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

For me I agree Baldwin would probably be my first pick depending where we draft as he would be a GREAT stretch four for us. If we can get into 4 to 6 draft we got a chance at him or another big Jabari Smith. After that I would be looking at Collins who is a beast on defense but definitely will take some time to reach potential on the offensive side. Another kid is is Caleb Houston a SF who has a sweet stroke definitely worth a look.

After that some guys who intrigue me is Nikola Jovic a PF from Serbia who just plays Nasty he can be a really good point forward and does a little bit of everything and he is opposite of Luka the kid has Heart. Next would be Mouhamed Gueye who is a freak athlete would definitely need to play in G League a season or two but tons of possible upside.

Another kid who is going to try and be draft eligible is Shaedon Sharpe a SG who is projected to go number 2 in 2023 draft. Curious to see what people think of him?

I’m almost exactly thinking the way you are with your assessments and picks.

I definitely will watch more NCAA, G League, and foreign basketball this season to check out prospects. I kept up pretty will with the FIBA U20 tournament that occurred earlier this year and it’s some solid foreign born guys coming to the league in the next couple of seasons.

[Chucho]

If only a young Tim Duncan was in college right now, then we would tank. Pop had no problem tanking for Tim. Why won't he tank for anyone else?

Tanking rarely works. That's why.

[MultiTroll]

Warriors
15-50 '19-20
39-33 '20-21
11-4 so far.

Compare with the Poppycocks.

[slick'81]

Tanking rarely works. That's why.

spurs dont need to tank. They flat out suck

[MultiTroll]

What's Chet run his record up to now, 3-0?

[MultiTroll]

Gonzaga @ UCLA Tues night if any of the SpursTalk scouts want to weigh in.
Should be a decent test for Chet.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/mike_schmitz/status/1463342472562495496?s=21

There’s thin legs and then there’s thin legs. Hot damn.

[baseline bum]

Jeez, Holmgren kicking the shit out of my Bruins.

[SupremeGuy]

https://twitter.com/mike_schmitz/status/1463342472562495496?s=21

There’s thin legs and then there’s thin legs. Hot damn.Brah, he balled out. Doubt SA will be in a position to draft him but damn give him the kirby/china-bitch treatment and he'll put on muscle faster than you think.

[Maddog]

https://twitter.com/mike_schmitz/status/1463342472562495496?s=21

There’s thin legs and then there’s thin legs. Hot damn.

Now that's he's done with Growth Hormone he needs some anabolic steroids

[4lifecowboy]

If we were lucky enough to get him in the draft, that would be a significant cornerstone for a rebuild.

[Dejounte]

If we were lucky enough to get him in the draft, that would be a significant cornerstone for a rebuild.

They said that about Wiseman. Nothing is a given.

[paperboy77]

They said that about Wiseman. Nothing is a given.

You're probably right but look what he walked into. GS didn't need a savior.

[Degoat]

I’m not seeing what the hype with this guy is tbh he’s skilled and has size but he moves around like Boban lmao

[emanueldavidginobili]

I’m not seeing what the hype with this guy is tbh he’s skilled and has size but he moves around like Boban lmao
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I don't think Boban quite moves like this lol

[Dejounte]

He reminds me more of Bol Bol. Bol Bol was posting historic numbers in college but his frame hurt his chances in the NBA. Could happen to Chet too.

[Degoat]

1463363093736693767

I don't think Boban quite moves like this lol

Maybe not boban lmao my point is he’s slow tho

[TDomination]

Man he's so scrawny.

I look at College Timmy and College David. (though not sure how old they are here)

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/02/8d/92/028d921267a774809f6a6213ee987a70--acc-basketball-basketball-history.jpg



https://pxpbob.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/david-robinson-navy.jpg




and then i look at Chet


https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/b9RTXroyJ0kV_zIGzrsvRg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTY0MDtjZj13ZWJw/https://s.yimg.com/os/creatr-uploaded-images/2021-11/4e99f5d0-4ce4-11ec-be27-4f4a4aebf642


Dave and Timmy are both skinny but this is another level skinny. Yeah he'll get bigger but how much so?

But with that said, we need a Big that can score and post up and shoot. We are missing that badly. I would definitely be happy to have him on our team.

[MultiTroll]

Maybe not boban lmao my point is he’s slow tho
How about an endline to endline race between you and Chet?

Kind of like Chuck Barkley and Dick Bavetta back in the day.

[KobesAchilles]

No thanks

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

He reminds me more of Bol Bol. Bol Bol was posting historic numbers in college but his frame hurt his chances in the NBA. Could happen to Chet too.

he reminds me of Bol Bol also.

I think Chet is a better defender now than Bol Bol has ever been though. He moves better laterally and has better defensive instincts than Bol also, but the first thing I thought watching him was Bol Bol.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Also, looking at Chet’s body type I don’t think he is really gonna get that much bigger.

Dude definitely has good basketball IQ and plays hard on both sides of the ball. I just feel unless he gets really good at shooting 3 pointers and handling the basketball his talent might not transfer that well to the NBA.

Durant even in high school had wing skills for his height. Chet is solid handling the ball and shooting but doesn’t really look like a wing and with his frame that’s the most ideal area for him to play in the NBA in my opinion. he gets bodied in college trying to guard post players and he doesn’t really have post offensive moves.

[MultiTroll]

^ True that it will only be a matter of time before someone like the Donkey Green or a similar bitch like a Morris Twin takes a cheapshot at Chet. Last night vs UCLA he took a semi cheapie and survived fine. But surely they will intensify.

Could cause serious injury.

[Dejounte]

Also, looking at Chet’s body type I don’t think he is really gonna get that much bigger.

Dude definitely has good basketball IQ and plays hard on both sides of the ball. I just feel unless he gets really good at shooting 3 pointers and handling the basketball his talent might not transfer that well to the NBA.

Durant even in high school had wing skills for his height. Chet is solid handling the ball and shooting but doesn’t really look like a wing and with his frame that’s the most ideal area for him to play in the NBA in my opinion. he gets bodied in college trying to guard post players and he doesn’t really have post offensive moves.

Yeah, I mean, unless Chet starts averaging 26 and 11 while being a focal point on offense and taking 18 shots per game….. there really is no comparison to Durant here. Durant plays much differently and was on another level in college, despite all the oohs and aaahs Chet is getting. It’s all hypothetical so far for Chet similar to Kai Jones last year. People love the unknowns hence why people think Tre Jones is closer to being a building block than Dejounte.

Just because you could win a million dollars with a lottery ticket doesn’t mean you’re winning that million dollars.

[keithington1]

If he could somehow be our Sf that’d be elite.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Yeah, I mean, unless Chet starts averaging 26 and 11 while being a focal point on offense and taking 18 shots per game….. there really is no comparison to Durant here. Durant plays much differently and was on another level in college, despite all the oohs and aaahs Chet is getting. It’s all hypothetical so far for Chet similar to Kai Jones last year. People love the unknowns hence why people think Tre Jones is closer to being a building block than Dejounte.

Just because you could win a million dollars with a lottery ticket doesn’t mean you’re winning that million dollars.

huh? You totally overlooked the most important and prevalent part of my post.

I’m not saying the guy has to be as dynamic as Durant was even in high school. I’m saying it would be in his best interest to work on wing type of skills because with his body type it’s gonna be hard to be a really good (quality starter getting good minutes) NBA player with the skill set he has shown so far.

now of course he could be just playing the role the coach wants him to play to help the team win. He also can and will improve over time but the whole point of my post was in my opinion he is gonna have to sharpen those wing skills to really be a quality NBA player because he is too frail and weak to play In the post.

Kai Jones (even though he is thin) played more physical at the rim and is 100% a front court player. He never showed close to the wing type of skills that Chet has already.

[Dejounte]

huh? You totally overlooked the most important and prevalent part of my post.

I’m not saying the guy has to be as dynamic as Durant was even in high school. I’m saying it would be in his best interest to work on wing type of skills because with his body type it’s gonna be hard to be a really good (quality starter getting good minutes) NBA player with the skill set he has shown so far.

now of course he could be just playing the role the coach wants him to play to help the team win. He also can and will improve over time but the whole point of my post was in my opinion he is gonna have to sharpen those wing skills to really be a quality NBA player because he is too frail and weak to play In the post.

Kai Jones (even though he is thin) played more physical at the rim and is 100% a front court player. He never showed close to the wing type of skills that Chet has already.

What? I was agreeing with you. The rest of my post was me putting my own thoughts. I wasn’t addressing any particular point of yours.

[spurraider21]

dont think he's trying to be a wing. he's a center. but he will have a lot of trouble with some of the bigs like Embiid/KAT and the like

[MultiTroll]

^ oh no he's playing to be a F in the NBA.

Definitely lined up several times for trey bombs last night vs UCLA. It's mandatory he ends up on an NBA team with other bigs to do the muscle work. At least one.
And that is exactly what he has on Gonzaga right now. It is working well.

Related, Zinger is looking much better on the Mavs.

[duncan2150]

He reminds me more of Bol Bol. Bol Bol was posting historic numbers in college but his frame hurt his chances in the NBA. Could happen to Chet too.


totally agree about their frame, about their skills Holmgren is more polished, better IQ and a more complete player.

the big question is what position can he guard and his perimeter D. Other than that i think he can exist in the NBA, offcourse if he is not injury prone.

And don't forget that Bol Bol played only nine games with Oregon, we'll see if Holmgren can play all the season without being injured.( I'm not sure Holmgren had a lot of injuries during his youth)

[Degoat]

How about an endline to endline race between you and Chet?

Kind of like Chuck Barkley and Dick Bavetta back in the day.

Easy, I’d smoke him lol

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

What? I was agreeing with you. The rest of my post was me putting my own thoughts. I wasn’t addressing any particular point of yours.

my fault it seemed like you were.

[Trill Clinton]

Duke vs Gonzaga tonight. We're getting two potential Spurs in action tonight.

[TheGreatYacht]

Getting absolutely rammed by Banchero lmao. Hope this bust stops getting head on this thread because of the color of his skin

[BatManu20]

Spurs ain’t getting a top-2 pick tbh. Too many shitty teams right now and Spurs will improve as the season progresses. Much more likely we pick between 5-10 imo, especially if D. White starts playing like himself again.

[Sugus]

Spurs ain’t getting a top-2 pick tbh. Too many shitty teams right now and Spurs will improve as the season progresses. Much more likely we pick between 5-10 imo, especially if D. White starts playing like himself again.

No way to know with the flattened lottery odds. Many teams outside the top-4 have been jumping into it the last few drafts, and if the Spurs finish anywhere near a top-5 worst record, it wouldn't be a stretch at all.

I don't know about top-2, but the Spurs have a pretty good chance at a top 4 pick with the way the season is playing out so far.

[mo7888]

It'll probably change but right now I think it's a top 4 player tier 1 draft with Banchero, Jabari, Chet, and Baldwin.

[MultiTroll]

Layed a three point shooting egg vs Alabama, but still hung in there with 11 rebs and 4 blocks in only 22 minutes.

[MultiTroll]

Chet looked good stroking 3s and had some nice drives to the rack.

Vs San Francisco.

He's coming to the NBA, just a matter of if the team that gets him already has a big or two to provide the muscle.
And / or if Chet can avoid getting cheapshotted cause you know that's coming.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Interesting news that apparently Shaedon Sharpe will be eligible for the 2022 draft. This will likely change things significantly, because he could go top 5 and push some other guys like Chet down. Dynamic, athletic scorers like him and Ivey might be more interesting for some teams than 4s like Smith, Banchero or Chet, who's more of a 5 anyway.

[BatManu20]

Interesting news that apparently Shaedon Sharpe will be eligible for the 2022 draft. This will likely change things significantly, because he could go top 5 and push some other guys like Chet down. Dynamic, athletic scorers like him and Ivey might be more interesting for some teams than 4s like Smith, Banchero or Chet, who's more of a 5 anyway.

Thought I read somewhere that he was planning on returning to Kentucky next year no matter what. But if he does end up coming out for some reason, he’s definitely a top-5 pick imo. Kid is gonna be good at the next level.

[RC_Drunkford]

I wish the Spurs could have some lottery luck for once and get Banchero.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Thought I read somewhere that he was planning on returning to Kentucky next year no matter what.

Read that too but can't believe it honestly. He's pretty much a surefire top 5 pick, there's some chance he goes 1st too. Very few players have turned that chance down (Tim Duncan). He doesn't have much to gain from a season in college. It's a $30-40 mil contract on the table against the possibility to get injured or flame out like Emoni Bates, for example. He'd be smart to go pro immediately.

[Thomas82]

I wish the Spurs could have some lottery luck for once and get Banchero.

I would rather have Jabari Smith. I wouldn't touch those Duke players.

[Seventyniner]

I wish the Spurs could have some lottery luck for once and get Banchero.

Robinson and Duncan not enough for you?

[KingKev]

I wish the Spurs could have some lottery luck for once and get Banchero.

if the draft gods give us another lucky bounce I hope it’s in a better draft.

[R. DeMurre]

Interesting news that apparently Shaedon Sharpe will be eligible for the 2022 draft. This will likely change things significantly, because he could go top 5 and push some other guys like Chet down. Dynamic, athletic scorers like him and Ivey might be more interesting for some teams than 4s like Smith, Banchero or Chet, who's more of a 5 anyway.

It seems like suddenly the early enrollment option is something that is very much on the minds of Canadian players. Sharpe was part of the Nike-affiliated UPlay Canada program, like Primo, RJ Barrett, & Shai Gilgeous-Alexander before him, and someone up there seems to have honed in on this loophole of graduating high school a year early to enroll in college and gain that one year advantage in being available for the draft.

[BatManu20]

I would rather have Jabari Smith. I wouldn't touch those Duke players.

Same. Smith >> Banchero imo. Defensively it’s not even close.

[RC_Drunkford]

Robinson and Duncan not enough for you?
That was over 20 years ago

[pad300]

Read that too but can't believe it honestly. He's pretty much a surefire top 5 pick, there's some chance he goes 1st too. Very few players have turned that chance down (Tim Duncan). He doesn't have much to gain from a season in college. It's a $30-40 mil contract on the table against the possibility to get injured or flame out like Emoni Bates, for example. He'd be smart to go pro immediately.

Yeah, if he's a top 5 pick (really even a top 10), he'd be silly not to go; another reason is that it puts him 1 year closer to finishing his rookie contract and getting into the real money.

[Seventyniner]

That was over 20 years ago

You're right, but in the Spurs' last 5 lotteries have produced Primo (11th pick, only a small chance of jumping to top 4), Vassell (12th pick, also small chance of jumping), Duncan, Elliott, and Robinson.

That's insane luck, especially considering that the Spurs got the #1 pick in the perfect years (1987, 1997) to land an instant MVP candidate (Robinson) and a GOAT candidate (Duncan).

I guess I'm looking at this from a different angle than you.

[RC_Drunkford]

You're right, but in the Spurs' last 5 lotteries have produced Primo (11th pick, only a small chance of jumping to top 4), Vassell (12th pick, also small chance of jumping), Duncan, Elliott, and Robinson.

That's insane luck, especially considering that the Spurs got the #1 pick in the perfect years (1987, 1997) to land an instant MVP candidate (Robinson) and a GOAT candidate (Duncan).

I guess I'm looking at this from a different angle than you.

True, I‘m looking at it from the NBA is rigging the lottery perspective like when they gave the Lakers the 4th pick so they could get AD. All these other teams except the Pacers have been tanking for years. Time to reward the Spurs

[Thomas82]

Same. Smith >> Banchero imo. Defensively it’s not even close.

Facts!!

[Dejounte]

Facts!!

You had a hard on for Wiseman and wouldn’t stop posting about him that summer. No one should trust your terrible judgment and your “Facts!!”

[Thomas82]

You had a hard on for Wiseman and wouldn’t stop posting about him that summer. No one should trust your terrible judgment and your “Facts!!”

Fall back man!! Don't come for me if I don't send for you.

[BacktoBasics]

Fall back man!! Don't come for me if I don't send for you.

This is what it looks like when he drops the soap on purpose.

[spurs1990]

Not sure how but your Spurs are tied for 5th slot in the NBA draft as of now. It's strange seemingly how strong they look out on the court (at times)

[KingKev]

Not sure how but your Spurs are tied for 5th slot in the NBA draft as of now. It's strange seemingly how strong they look out on the court (at times)

6 of the next 8 are likely L’s before we head out for the Rodeo Road Trip. Should be firmly in that bottom 5 by the AS Break.

[Dejounte]

Pop will start resting DJ soon.

[KingKev]

Pop will start resting DJ soon.

I hope so. We now know we have a definite building block with DJ and this season is lost. Going to have to start making tough decisions on the core of Jak, White, Walker and to a lesser extent Vassell and KJ.

[duncan2150]

Same. Smith >> Banchero imo. Defensively it’s not even close.


not sure of that, smith can be abused laterally by some players, he's not what i call a good defender now. But Smith has a really good spirit, he's a fighter. We'll see who will end up the better player between the top 3.

[MultiTroll]

Chet could start tomorrow and would be a huge upgrade over McForbesbot.

[exstatic]

Chet’s the guy in this draft.

[itzsoweezee]

Jabari over everybody

[John B]

Chet’s the guy in this draft.

The concern is if he's able to put in weight in that 195 lbs frame, and not get bullied? Giannis was 18 years old and 190 lbs. Different people. And there's KD, Porzingis who are not really the model of physique.

[BatManu20]

The concern is if he's able to put in weight in that 195 lbs frame, and not get bullied? Giannis was 18 years old and 190 lbs. Different people. And there's KD, Porzingis who are not really the model of physique.

Giannis was also only 6’9 when he was drafted. Chet’s already 7’1. Giannis also has broader shoulders. Entirely different frames tbh.

[BatManu20]

Chet Holmgren putting on a performance on ESPN2 right now. He’s going off, albeit against a shitty team.

He’s going to end up going first overall tbh.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Yeah, people are overthinking Chet too much. He's unlikely to ever put up too much muscle on that frame but he's tough and will still be able to provide rim protection. It'd be crazy to pass on him because he'd be abused by the likes of Jokic or Embiid, he's not on their timeline anyway. He knows how to play within a system and fit in, he's the only player in the projected top 5 of the draft who's a plus without the ball in his hands.

[John B]

If Chet goes down to Spurs range, then so be it. Tank for Chet. And let’s get Kai Sotto in the 2nd round

[MultiTroll]

Chet Holmgren putting on a performance on ESPN2 right now. He’s going off, albeit against a shitty team.

He’s going to end up going first overall tbh.
Rinse, repeat tonight vs San Fran.

Chet would be a mega upgrade for the Spurs.
If he has to spend a year back and forth from Austin eating tacos, so be it.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Hire dejuan blair as his personal conditioning coach

[slick'81]

Spurs aren't drafting anywhere near this guy unfortunately

[exstatic]

Spurs aren't drafting anywhere near this guy unfortunately

Not without a shit ton of luck.

[bluebellmaniac]

Not without a shit ton of luck.

Luck happens...

[Darius Bieber]

Yeah, Mock drafts have us selecting Keegan Murray… not sure why we’d waste a lottery pick on him.

[itzsoweezee]

Yikes I take back all the trash I talked about Chet

[Mr. Body]

He's struggling against a big, athletic Memphis frontline.

[offset formation]

Luck happens...

That #1 Timmy pick is a once in a lifetime spell of luck. Now it's time to be mediocre like the overwhelming majority of the league.

[GAustex]

I ain’t seeing the tall skinny dude being all that

[MultiTroll]

He's struggling against a big, athletic Memphis frontline.
Zag guards and SFs are also zeros when it comes to creating assists to him.
Chets a very good passer to if they would create stuff. They don't.

[ZeusWillJudge]

He's struggling against a big, athletic Memphis frontline.


Yep. He's got about 10:22 to make a statement. If he doesn't, and Duke wins anyway, he'll have another game. If he shrinks in that one, there's no way he goes #1. I know people will say that you can't judge that much from one or two games, but it's about how he fares against better competition. If he looks bad in the next game (if there is one), he could easily go #3.

[itzsoweezee]

He's struggling against a big, athletic Memphis frontline.

He’s not struggling with anything other than shitty college refs.

[MultiTroll]

If Chet gets into an open flow passing offense that knows how to utilize him he will be fine.
Some half court dina soar iso ball he won't.

[Mr. Body]

He’s not struggling with anything other than shitty college refs.

I guess you didn't watch the game. There were many times he couldn't handle a rebound because he was too weak. He gets pushed around a lot, too. Very talented, but has the strength of a middle schooler.

[ZeusWillJudge]

If Chet gets into an open flow passing offense that knows how to utilize him he will be fine.
Some half court dina soar iso ball he won't.


Say that's true. Doesn't that sort of fly in the face of him being the across the board shoe-in for the #1 pick? If he has to land in the right situation, it seems like that pretty much means that he might not be the best fit for some teams. I agree with Mr. Body, he looked weak against Memphis, and it's going to be hard to find a place where he doesn't have to deal with some contact.

I think he better come up big in the next game, because if Jaylin Smith pushes him around, it's going to be a lot harder to pass on Jabari Smith. One of the things that makes Holmgren such a unicorn is that he piles up big rebound numbers. I just can't see him doing that against legit NBA big men. And if he puts on 40 lbs. will he still be able to shoot rainbows out of his... horn?

[buttsR4rebounding]

I thought both Holmgren and Duren didn’t perform to expectations. Holmgren as discussed below and Duren’s total inability to use his left hand really limits him. I am more and more liking Walker Kessler as the center to target.

[John B]

I’m not worried about Chet. He needs to okay SF/PF in the NBA and paired with a defensive big. Other teams might be overly concern about his physique. I wish they would, and let him land to the Spurs :lol

[CGD]

Underwhelmed by Chet’s performance last night. Seems like a real non-factor out there aside from a block or two. Duren looked interesting, but can also see why he’s a late lotto prospect. Gives me the Julius Randel/t-Rex arm vibe.

[exstatic]

I thought both Holmgren and Duren didn’t perform to expectations. Holmgren as discussed below and Duren’s total inability to use his left hand really limits him. I am more and more liking Walker Kessler as the center to target.

Kesslers blocks will not translate to the NBA. He isn’t laterally or vertically gifted.

Duren is only about a month older than Primo was last year. You have to do projections with a player that young.

[exstatic]

Underwhelmed by Chet’s performance last night. Seems like a real non-factor out there aside from a block or two. Duren looked interesting, but can also see why he’s a late lotto prospect. Gives me the Julius Randel/t-Rex arm vibe.

Dude….Duren’s wing span is 7’5”

[CGD]

I guess you didn't watch the game. There were many times he couldn't handle a rebound because he was too weak. He gets pushed around a lot, too. Very talented, but has the strength of a middle schooler.

Exactly. He’s the rare player that actually makes Poku look jacked. In fairness, he’s not a C and will probably be a SF in the pros.

[CGD]

Dude….Duren’s wing span is 7’5”

Fair enough, maybe I’m just reacting to how raw he seems on the offensive side of the ball— honestly I haven’t seem him play (aside from highlights) before yesterday. Don’t know much about his D, but feel like he projects to be a replacement level rim runner type with limited outside game.

[John B]

Dude….Duren’s wing span is 7’5”

I’m getting Bam Adebayo vibes in him, not a superstar but could be a multi-All Defensive guy. 10 years ago he could pair with Poeltl at PF. But with his limited range? He could really help Spurs interior defense. Drafting him could mean moving on from Poeltl and maybe move Zollins in the starting PF position. :wakeup

[MultiTroll]

I guess you didn't watch the game. There were many times he couldn't handle a rebound because he was too weak. He gets pushed around a lot, too.
AKA as fouled last night.
4 blocks
Memphis made run with him out.
Zags 7-17 FTs at one point.

Yes he'll need to strengthen. Only 19.

[spurspl]

forget about him, we aint gonna have a chance to draft him, spurs aint understand how rebuilding should look like

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

I watched the whole game versus Memphis and Chet wasn’t as bad as some are making it seem.

he is really tough to be as skinny as he is and he fearless defensively. Early on I thought his frame would be an issue but so far in college he has done a really good job of handling himself against bigger and stronger players. He is far from perfect but the guy is fearless and doesn’t mind mixing it up in the paint.

Memphis tried to go at him and most of the time they failed offensively. Lol. Him and Duren were in foul trouble a good amount of the game but I honestly thought Chet was more impactful than Jalen in last nights game.

[Mr. Body]

I watched the whole game versus Memphis and Chet wasn’t as bad as some are making it seem.

he is really tough to be as skinny as he is and he fearless defensively. Early on I thought his frame would be an issue but so far in college he has done a really good job of handling himself against bigger and stronger players. He is far from perfect but the guy is fearless and doesn’t mind mixing it up in the paint.

No one is saying he's bad, and he does like physicality, which is huge. But clearly he's not very strong and he struggled to impact the game very much. To me, he projects as a mobile Sean Bradley with a much, much better batch of skills. I would still take him #1.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

No one is saying he's bad, and he does like physicality, which is huge. But clearly he's not very strong and he struggled to impact the game very much. To me, he projects as a mobile Sean Bradley with a much, much better batch of skills. I would still take him #1.


lmao

he had a big impact on the game when he wasn’t in foul trouble. Memphis likes to go to the hoop. They had issues a lot (not all because he got dunked on once but it was due to a perimeter guy getting beat and he still contested the dunk!) of the time Chet was In the game getting good shots within a set offense. Gonzaga doesn’t have the greatest defenders but they are decent because of how much ground the dude covers defensively.

I am not saying he is a can’t miss prospect but dude would be really good at the 4 with our current roster. He could play with Jakob and would be good in my opinion. Sadly we most likely will not get a chance to draft him.

[R. DeMurre]

I really don't see such an issue with Chet's physique, as long as staying healthy is not an issue-- put him next to a solid center and let him be a free safety type of PF defensively, and he'll be blocking shots all over the place. That formula has worked brilliantly for Evan Mobley and Jarrett Allen this year, and Chet has blocked significantly more shots as a freshman than even Mobley did.

[Mr. Body]

lmao

he had a big impact on the game when he wasn’t in foul trouble. Memphis likes to go to the hoop. They had issues a lot (not all because he got dunked on once but it was due to a perimeter guy getting beat and he still contested the dunk!) of the time Chet was In the game getting good shots within a set offense. Gonzaga doesn’t have the greatest defenders but they are decent because of how much ground the dude covers defensively.

I am not saying he is a can’t miss prospect but dude would be really good at the 4 with our current roster. He could play with Jakob and would be good in my opinion. Sadly we most likely will not get a chance to draft him.

Nah, you know, I actually watched the game instead of jacking off to whatever fantasy you were creating for yourself. He definitely struggled. The game was won by Timme and that shooter dude. Holmgren struggled

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Nah, you know, I actually watched the game instead of jacking off to whatever fantasy you were creating for yourself. He definitely struggled. The game was won by Timme and that shooter dude. Holmgren struggled

Reading comprehension isn’t the strongest with you I see and it’s sad that instead of having a civil conversation you went the route that you did but it’s to be expected on this site. SMH.

I never said in any of my post that he was the reason Gonzaga won the game. I agree Timme was the MVP of the game and Nemhardt was big also but Chet was good defensively and was a factor on that side of the ball when he was on the court not in foul trouble. Both Jalen and Chet were in foul trouble but between the two Chet was more impactful and overall defensively when Chet was on the floor he was impactful for Gonzaga.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

I really don't see such an issue with Chet's physique, as long as staying healthy is not an issue-- put him next to a solid center and let him be a free safety type of PF defensively, and he'll be blocking shots all over the place. That formula has worked brilliantly for Evan Mobley and Jarrett Allen this year, and Chet has blocked significantly more shots as a freshman than even Mobley did.

EXACTLY.

Mobley is more athletic (and a little bigger) but him and Chet are very similar in my opinion and I think Chet could have the same impact as Mobley in the NBA. Of course Chet needs to gain some muscle mass but I think if he adds to much it might cause him to lose some of his quickness.

time will tell though.

[Chomag]

He was getting bullied a bit so hopefully he can fill out some because talent is nothing he lacks.

[steak n eggs]

From a person that has no eye for talent at all, he looks like he has trouble when a defender gets physical with him. My sample set is small but it's just an observation. I felt like Timme was actually more comfortable with being physical.

[John B]

No one is saying he's bad, and he does like physicality, which is huge. But clearly he's not very strong and he struggled to impact the game very much. To me, he projects as a mobile Sean Bradley with a much, much better batch of skills. I would still take him #1.

:lmao just because he’s skinny tall white dude? Besides blocking and rebounding, the two are completely different players. If not for for Chet’s physique, he is the runaway #1 pick. The kid is a unicorn. And because of his fearlessness and motor, I have no doubt he would work with the NBA strengthening coaches to get stronger for the NBA level. And even if he becomes Nowitzki slow, he’s still 7 footer who can shoot and plenty of skills to spare. Shoot over a smaller defender, drive against slower bigs. This kid is going to create problem with the defense.

[rascal]

Won't be good in the NBA against bigger quicker athletes.

[rascal]

Stay away from white centers as top lottery picks. more often than not you'll get burned.

[GAustex]

I ain’t seeing the tall skinny dude being all that

[cd98]

A couple times in the waning minutes of the last game, he drove from the perimeter because the defender respected his 3 point shot, but he couldn't get to the rim. Instead, he just got to the block and then tried to spin around a few times before he just passed the ball. I mean, he should be getting layups or blocks on that because it is a one on one move. That caught my eye, and the fact that he got bodied in the low post on offense and defense. He blocked the guards at the rim and he was a big key to Zags winning, but it felt like he should've been capable of more, but was not and that concerns me on the NBA level.

[PhantomDashCam]

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[stephen jackson]

Not a fan

[CGD]

This Duke/MSU is great. I’ll take Banchero please. Would also be happy with his front court running mate, Williams, with one of the later picks.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Struggling with physicality is a red flag. Do bigs ever get over that?

[R. DeMurre]

Mike Schmitz says +18, but the two box scores I saw say +16... Either way, kinda funny when a prospect is that far in the positive in 29 minutes in a 4 point game and that's his "bad" game.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Chet's interior defense is so good that he impacts the game positively even when he's not scoring well. When he's in he discourages drives to the hoop, which doesn't necessarily affect his counting stats but sure helps the team win and explains his impact stats.

[Poolboy5623]

The guy is a stick.

[paperboy77]

Actually the Zags getting bounced and his ineffective play might make him drop in the draft. Would be really nice if we could sneak in there.

[exstatic]

There’s lots of dinosaurs in this thread looking up at the asteroid in the sky. Shouldn’t surprise me. Same people don’t see the value of Poeltl.

It’s a vastly different game since 2015 when they changed the defensive rules to not allow you to fight through a pick. Everything is a switch now. You worry about Chet not being able to guard big centers. How many of those are there, guys who’s teams thrown the ball into the post when looking for points? Embiid? Late in the game, he gets gassed, and can’t play switches. In another two years, he’ll never be able to play them, and will get played off the floor.

[MultiTroll]

Chet will play forward, not center if he gets a real coach.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Mike Schmitz says +18, but the two box scores I saw say +16... Either way, kinda funny when a prospect is that far in the positive in 29 minutes in a 4 point game and that's his "bad" game.


I don't think any serious analyst has questioned that Holmgren is pretty dominant in college. The questions have come around whether he'll be able to do the same things against NBA players.

Most traditional big men take 2-3 years in the NBA to get stronger, learn the leverage, etc. We rarely know if they will be really good bigs until then. But Holmgren (in my opinion) is never going to be one of those kinds of centers. So when will we know with him? He gets half, probably more than half, of his rebounds on the basis of his enormous standing reach. That won't go as far against heavyweights who will move him too far out of position. I haven't watched every game, or anything close, but I'm pretty confident that he will be a predominantly weak-side shot blocker in the NBA (unlike, say, Walter Kessler who can stand his ground against other big men). All I've said is that when you start applying the NBA discount to some of his college dominance, he's much less of a unicorn.

I think a lot of us just get tired of people saying that he's the best big man prospect in history. He should go high in the draft. I'm just not convinced that he should be the automatic, unquestioned #1 pick.

[R. DeMurre]

I don't think any serious analyst has questioned that Holmgren is pretty dominant in college. The questions have come around whether he'll be able to do the same things against NBA players.

Most traditional big men take 2-3 years in the NBA to get stronger, learn the leverage, etc. We rarely know if they will be really good bigs until then. But Holmgren (in my opinion) is never going to be one of those kinds of centers. So when will we know with him? He gets half, probably more than half, of his rebounds on the basis of his enormous standing reach. That won't go as far against heavyweights who will move him too far out of position. I haven't watched every game, or anything close, but I'm pretty confident that he will be a predominantly weak-side shot blocker in the NBA (unlike, say, Walter Kessler who can stand his ground against other big men). All I've said is that when you start applying the NBA discount to some of his college dominance, he's much less of a unicorn.

I think a lot of us just get tired of people saying that he's the best big man prospect in history. He should go high in the draft. I'm just not convinced that he should be the automatic, unquestioned #1 pick.


Totally agree with this take. I picture him being used in a similar fashion to Evan Mobley next to Jarrett Allen. I don't even picture Holmgren at his peak being the best player on his NBA team, but more of a super glue guy.

[Leetonidas]

I wouldn't worry about the physicality thing, especially signed he's so young and clearly growing into his frame. Remember that KD was the weakest dude in his draft class and couldn't even do one bench press at the combine:lol the NBA is soft as fuck now so there aren't many bruisers getting physical with guys anymore. Really hard to pass on Chet if you have the pick

[NASpurs]

He could be the next Pokusveski as the next Holocaust survivor to make it in the NBA.

[The Truth #6]

He will probably be good in the NBA at the least because he can shoot 3s and block shots, if nothing else. He probably is overrated to some degree and probably shouldn’t be considered a lock #1, in part because there are some questions with all of the top players. Ivey could end up being the better player, and maybe moves further up as we get closer to the draft. It’s a weird draft.

[MultiTroll]

Whether he is #1 or #10, he can help.

Would you rather have Dougie McDermott or Chet at forward?

[Gagnrath]

I’m getting Bam Adebayo vibes in him, not a superstar but could be a multi-All Defensive guy. 10 years ago he could pair with Poeltl at PF. But with his limited range? He could really help Spurs interior defense. Drafting him could mean moving on from Poeltl and maybe move Zollins in the starting PF position. :wakeup
Do you feel with his injury history that he will maintain the speed to play PF regularly.

[scott]

Only posting this to be able to come back and bump it in 4 years when this guy sucks.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Totally agree with this take. I picture him being used in a similar fashion to Evan Mobley next to Jarrett Allen. I don't even picture Holmgren at his peak being the best player on his NBA team, but more of a super glue guy.


LOL. Oh, so you're gonna be all reasonable, and we can't even argue or anything? Yeah, I'll buy all that. It's not that I hate Holmgren, I just get worn out with people who really believe he's going to be a 7' Magic Johnson and Shaq combined.

Then again, Ivey just got punked by St. Peters. Honestly, I think I do pretty good at finding draft bargains, but I'm glad I don't have to make the call for the #1 pick - especially this year.

[SAGirl]

He will probably be good in the NBA at the least because he can shoot 3s and block shots, if nothing else. He probably is overrated to some degree and probably shouldn’t be considered a lock #1, in part because there are some questions with all of the top players. Ivey could end up being the better player, and maybe moves further up as we get closer to the draft. It’s a weird draft.
Ivey massively underperformed and disappointed getting eliminated by the Peacocks! I think he’s talented but his bbiq is questionable. TO machine.

[Ariel]

'm glad I don't have to make the call for the #1 pick - especially this year.The safe pick is Banchero, but if in doubt you trade down and let somebody else take the gamble while you pick up whomever is left along with few good assets. I for one have only seen Chet play these past few games, and I've been left with a whole lot more doubts than just his physique.

[Cklbmk]

With the 2nd pick in the 2022 NBA draft the San Antonio Spurs select Chet Holmgren

[Robz4000]

Wouldn't shock me at all if he ends up in Europe/China after his rookie deal tbh.