View Full Version : Liberal hypocrisy fueling inequality
DarrinS
11-11-2021, 08:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNDgcjVGHIw
It doesn't matter what you do, only what you publicly say. Project wokeness, you don't need to live it.
spurraider21
11-11-2021, 08:49 PM
CA's single family zoning and liberal NIMBYism is a massive issue, and we've talked about it on this forum quite a bit. but its really bizarre that they didnt discuss the new law recently passed by Newsom which basically eliminated single family zoning in CA
CA's single family zoning and liberal NIMBYism is a massive issue, and we've talked about it on this forum quite a bit. but its really bizarre that they didnt discuss the new law recently passed by Newsom which basically eliminated single family zoning in CA
You didn't watch the whole video. They did mention it. 12:18
spurraider21
11-11-2021, 08:54 PM
You didn't watch the whole video. They did mention it. 12:18
im about 11 minutes in tbh :lol... was live commentating after they finished their original CA segment
more evidence if elitist NIMBY character if CA is prop 13 and how untouchable it is. ideally that would be repealed, but its political toxic for anyone to even mention doing so
California didn't just become democratic controlled two weeks ago.
The wealthy dems have the poor minorities under their thumbs though, vote for us and we'll keep giving you just enough to get by. Don't try to move into our neighborhoods though. The poor minorities fall for it.
spurraider21
11-11-2021, 08:58 PM
thanks for sharing darrin :tu
was a good video
spurraider21
11-11-2021, 08:58 PM
California didn't just become democratic controlled two weeks ago.
The wealthy dems have the poor minorities under their thumbs though, vote for us and we'll keep giving you just enough to get by. Don't try to move into our neighborhoods though. The poor minorities fall for it.
their opposition is basically the same thing minus the fringe benefits
baseline bum
11-11-2021, 09:03 PM
California didn't just become democratic controlled two weeks ago.
The wealthy dems have the poor minorities under their thumbs though, vote for us and we'll keep giving you just enough to get by. Don't try to move into our neighborhoods though. The poor minorities fall for it.
No one likes who they vote for in this oligarchy. You vote for the side that's less shitty.
their opposition is basically the same thing minus the fringe benefits
except the opposition doesn't run on a platform saying just the opposite of what they are doing.
No one likes who they vote for in this oligarchy. You vote for the side that's less shitty.
both sides argument good now
boutons_deux
11-11-2021, 09:16 PM
The poor rural, low-wage, low-ed rurals and brain-damaged evangelicals vote Repug and get screwed, for 40 years.
The oligarchy has oppressed 100M Americans into financial precarity, poverty.
Now the people on the bottom get suckered by Trash, thinking he's gonna do something for them financially, drain the swamp, but their priority was hate-driven.
Trash elected as their cruel, sadistic proxy to hurt people: non-white, non-male, non-Christian, and LGBT. Trash, along with the haters he validated, delivered on the hateful hurt.
GAMEOVER for America, say, Jan 2025.
The poor rural, low-wage, low-ed rurals and brain-damaged evangelicals vote Repug and get screwed, for 40 years.
The oligarchy has oppressed 100M Americans into financial precarity, poverty.
Now the people on the bottom get suckered by Trash, thinking he's gonna do something for them financially, drain the swamp, but their priority was hate-driven.
Trash elected to their proxy to hurt people: non-white, non-male, non-Christian, and LGBT. Trash, along with the haters he validated, delivered on the hateful hurt.
GAMEOVER for America, say, Jan 2025.
Nothing to do with OP, you tweaked out weird motherfucker.
spurraider21
11-11-2021, 09:18 PM
except the opposition doesn't run on a platform saying just the opposite of what they are doing.
yeah, they just say the bad things they're going to do. makes it an easy choice
person 1 says he is going to give you $5 but ends up giving you $.05
person 2 says he is going to punch you and then he punches you
i'd still go with person 1 :lol
baseline bum
11-11-2021, 09:21 PM
except the opposition doesn't run on a platform saying just the opposite of what they are doing.
LOL wtf are you talking about? Trump ran on illegal immigration despite hiring illegals for years.
DarrinS
11-11-2021, 09:22 PM
The poor rural, low-wage, low-ed rurals and brain-damaged evangelicals vote Repug and get screwed, for 40 years.
The oligarchy has oppressed 100M Americans into financial precarity, poverty.
Now the people on the bottom get suckered by Trash, thinking he's gonna do something for them financially, drain the swamp, but their priority was hate-driven.
Trash elected to their proxy to hurt people: non-white, non-male, non-Christian, and LGBT. Trash, along with the haters he validated, delivered on the hateful hurt.
GAMEOVER for America, say, Jan 2025.
Botox "brain" dump
yeah, they just say the bad things they're going to do. makes it an easy choice
person 1 says he is going to give you $5 but ends up giving you $.05
person 2 says he is going to punch you and then he punches you
i'd still go with person 1 :lol
So it's better to pretend you want to fix things then, when you get into power, just create a bigger disparity. That's what voters want.
LOL wtf are you talking about? Trump ran on illegal immigration despite hiring illegals for years.
Two completely different things. What he did as a civilian vs what he preached as his platform. When he was in office, did he ignore his campaign points?
The OP is about politicians not actually acting on their advertised beliefs. The problem with Trump is that his advertised beliefs were being acted on, and he advertised them too much.
The video isn't just about politicians though, the affluent voters are all in when it's about virtue signaling but they fold when it's time to roll up the sleeves and put their money where their mouths are.
baseline bum
11-11-2021, 09:57 PM
Two completely different things. What he did as a civilian vs what he preached as his platform. When he was in office, did he ignore his campaign points?
The OP is about politicians not actually acting on their advertised beliefs. The problem with Trump is that his advertised beliefs were being acted on, and he advertised them too much.
The video isn't just about politicians though, the affluent voters are all in when it's about virtue signaling but they fold when it's time to roll up the sleeves and put their money where their mouths are.
His advertised belief wasn't being acted on. If he wanted to act on it he could have pushed for jail time for people who hire illegals. But he's one of them so obviously he wouldn't push for that.
His advertised belief wasn't being acted on. If he wanted to act on it he could have pushed for jail time for people who hire illegals. But he's one of them so obviously he wouldn't push for that.
I'm not going to argue in support of Trump. I am going to argue that the video states very clearly that the problem is blue states not living up to their party goals when they have power. The question was "what would the dems do if they had all the power" and to answer that they used California and Washington as examples to show that, despite the lawn signs, bumper stickers and hashtags, affluent liberals are just as stingy with their wealth and social exclusivity as their red counterparts. If they weren't, their goals would come to fruition in some instances and we'd see the results. Instead, class division is strongest in liberal strongholds.
Instead of addressing that, the predictable "what about Trump" responses come in along with "both sides" which, up until now, was used as fodder for ridicule.
Blake
11-11-2021, 10:08 PM
Two completely different things. What he did as a civilian vs what he preached as his platform. When he was in office, did he ignore his campaign points?
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Blake
11-11-2021, 10:09 PM
Instead, class division is strongest in liberal strongholds.
Lol wut :lol
Blake
11-11-2021, 10:10 PM
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Honest broker can't help himself :lol
Lol wut :lol
didn't watch the video ^ :lol
ElNono
11-11-2021, 10:10 PM
Two completely different things. What he did as a civilian vs what he preached as his platform. When he was in office, did he ignore his campaign points?
Of course he did.
He campaigned on bringing manufacturing jobs back, when it was clear that was unachievable (and it was).
He campaigned on the cheapest and best healthcare, and his healthcare law, that thankfully didn't pass, had nothing about cost controls or quality of care. He only brought up importing meds from Canada with 6 months to go in his presidency and because his polling numbers were in the tank.
He campaigned on his hedge fund buddies having to take a hit in the name of fairness to main street, and he gave them a huge tax cut, forgivable loans, etc.
He campaigned on himself having to take a financial hit, then hired his entire family into the government, contracted his own hotels, made Mar-A-Lago the White House, etc.
Dems are far, far from saints, but the current version of the GOP is just retarded. Not only they lie to you, but they use the absolute worst lies (god wants this, we're bringing manufacturing back, we're gonna give you cheap and great healthcare, we're making america great again, etc). It's just insulting.
baseline bum
11-11-2021, 10:11 PM
I'm not going to argue in support of Trump.
...
Instead of addressing that, the predictable "what about Trump" responses come in along with "both sides" which, up until now, was used as fodder for ridicule.
What a load of crap
except the opposition doesn't run on a platform saying just the opposite of what they are doing.
Blake
11-11-2021, 10:11 PM
didn't watch the video ^ :lol
No, I'm not gonna watch some 12 minute YouTube. I'll just laugh at your stupid comment instead.
What a load of crap
Obviously a response to thin air, since no way I was responding to SR21's "the opposition" comment.
No, I'm not gonna watch some 12 minute YouTube. I'll just laugh at your stupid comment instead.
then shut the fuck up
Blake
11-11-2021, 10:50 PM
then shut the fuck up
:lol angry.
Then stop saying stupid shit, dummy.
:lol angry.
Then stop saying stupid shit, dummy.
You didn't watch the video but you're "wut" when I simply repeated what was said in the video. :lol
Simple Blake, you'll never catch up.
RandomGuy
11-12-2021, 06:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNDgcjVGHIw
He makes a lot of good points. I share his frustration.
Rich liberals can be, and often are, just is selfish as any group of neo-fascists.
RandomGuy
11-12-2021, 07:08 AM
except the opposition doesn't run on a platform saying just the opposite of what they are doing.
Actually, they do.
Doesn't take very much effort to find the 2016 neo-fascist platform, and figure out they run on platform that their actual policies actively oppose.
Republicans: We support STEM education.
Also Republicans: Just don't teach evolution or climate change
Republicans: We want to reduce the Federal Debt
Also Republicans: Let's take on a lot of debt to give tax breaks to the wealthiest people
Republicans: We are the party of small business
Also Republicans: Here are huge subsidies to big business
Republicans: We are the party of religious freedom
Also Republicans: Ban mosques.
Republicans: We are the party that opposes judicial activism
Also Republicans: We support judicial activist judges.
So that kinda fails.
RandomGuy
11-12-2021, 07:38 AM
When he was in office, did he ignore his campaign points?
Absolutely.
He said he’d taxes for regular people, and that the super-rich like him would pay more. He did the opposite.
He said he wouldn’t “cut Social Security like every other Republican and I’m not going to cut Medicare or Medicaid.” All of his budgets did exactly that.
He promised to bring down the price of prescription drugs and said drug companies are “getting away with murder.” He never proposed any major legislation on that.
He promised to protect Americans with pre-existing conditions, and repeal the ACA. His justice department tried actively do away with both.
He promised to lock up Hillary Clinton for using a private email server. He didn’t.
He promised to use his business experience (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!) to whip the federal government into shape. He just used it to give the worst kind of incompetent cronies jobs.
He promised “six weeks of paid maternity leave to any mother with a newborn child whose employer does not provide the benefit.” Never bothered.
He promised to bring an end to Kim Jong Un’s nuclear program. HAHASHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
He said he would distance himself from his businesses while in office. He used his office to benefit his businesses in as many ways as he could.
He said he would release his taxes. He didn't.
He said he would provide health care. The plan was (and is) always "two weeks away".
He said he’d force companies to keep jobs in America, and that there would be consequences for companies that shipped jobs abroad.
the list goes on and on.
Blake
11-12-2021, 10:23 AM
You didn't watch the video but you're "wut" when I simply repeated what was said in the video. :lol
Simple Blake, you'll never catch up.
Then the video said something stupid. Thanks for catching me up.
Derpmc, you'll keep being a forum kickball.
Absolutely.
He said he’d taxes for regular people, and that the super-rich like him would pay more. He did the opposite.
He said he wouldn’t “cut Social Security like every other Republican and I’m not going to cut Medicare or Medicaid.” All of his budgets did exactly that.
He promised to bring down the price of prescription drugs and said drug companies are “getting away with murder.” He never proposed any major legislation on that.
He promised to protect Americans with pre-existing conditions, and repeal the ACA. His justice department tried actively do away with both.
He promised to lock up Hillary Clinton for using a private email server. He didn’t.
He promised to use his business experience (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!) to whip the federal government into shape. He just used it to give the worst kind of incompetent cronies jobs.
He promised “six weeks of paid maternity leave to any mother with a newborn child whose employer does not provide the benefit.” Never bothered.
He promised to bring an end to Kim Jong Un’s nuclear program. HAHASHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
He said he would distance himself from his businesses while in office. He used his office to benefit his businesses in as many ways as he could.
He said he would release his taxes. He didn't.
He said he would provide health care. The plan was (and is) always "two weeks away".
He said he’d force companies to keep jobs in America, and that there would be consequences for companies that shipped jobs abroad.
the list goes on and on.
Did you watch the video?
Then the video said something stupid. Thanks for catching me up.
Derpmc, you'll keep being a forum kickball.
ignorance + confidence = douchebag (or deutchbag, have your pick)
Watch the video then argue. Right now you're just being the same lapdog cuck you've been for the past 10 years. There was a time when you had rational discussions here.
Wait, that was someone else. nm
Of course he did.
He campaigned on bringing manufacturing jobs back, when it was clear that was unachievable (and it was).
He campaigned on the cheapest and best healthcare, and his healthcare law, that thankfully didn't pass, had nothing about cost controls or quality of care. He only brought up importing meds from Canada with 6 months to go in his presidency and because his polling numbers were in the tank.
He campaigned on his hedge fund buddies having to take a hit in the name of fairness to main street, and he gave them a huge tax cut, forgivable loans, etc.
He campaigned on himself having to take a financial hit, then hired his entire family into the government, contracted his own hotels, made Mar-A-Lago the White House, etc.
Dems are far, far from saints, but the current version of the GOP is just retarded. Not only they lie to you, but they use the absolute worst lies (god wants this, we're bringing manufacturing back, we're gonna give you cheap and great healthcare, we're making america great again, etc). It's just insulting.
Missed this one.
The video isn't about the leadership per se, not completely. It's about the affluent voters who say they want one thing but then do everything in their power to avoid it. If the left doesn't really want the things they say they want, what would they do if they had full power? What would they want? We know what the GOP wants. Is the left really that different outside of how many firearms they own? They both want single family homes, they both want to protect their own neighborhoods from the people they purport to care about (the GOP doesn't purport to care as much about them though). Neither side is willing to sacrifice their personal lifestyles to effect real change.
It seems no one wants to discuss the video.
RandomGuy
11-12-2021, 11:57 AM
No, I'm not gonna watch some 12 minute YouTube. I'll just laugh at your stupid comment instead.
It's actually on point, IMO. A similar one for the GOP would probably be... longer. :lol
RandomGuy
11-12-2021, 11:58 AM
Did you watch the video?
Yes. Already posted what I thought of it.
Blake
11-12-2021, 12:10 PM
Did you watch the video?
The video has nothing to do with your question, dipshit. RG answered you straight up.
Blake
11-12-2021, 12:16 PM
It's actually on point, IMO. A similar one for the GOP would probably be... longer. :lol
I can already guess how it goes and I have no doubt it's mostly on point about how shitty a lot of thing is about the libs.
Boiled down, we're left with figuring out which party in a two party system is less shitty. That's about it, amirite?
Yes. Already posted what I thought of it.
Rich liberals run your party. In essence you're saying the liberals are as bad if not worse than neo fascists. That makes them much worse than your run of the mill conservatives. Why do you continue to support them?
Blake
11-12-2021, 12:28 PM
ignorance + confidence = douchebag (or deutchbag, have your pick)
Watch the video then argue. Right now you're just being the same lapdog cuck you've been for the past 10 years. There was a time when you had rational discussions here.
Wait, that was someone else. nm
You posted a question that was stupid that had nothing to do with the video. I laughed at his stupid it was and you went personal. It's what you do.
You posted a question that was stupid that had nothing to do with the video. I laughed at his stupid it was and you went personal. It's what you do.
You didn't watch the video. How would you know? :lol
Blake
11-12-2021, 12:48 PM
Two completely different things. What he did as a civilian vs what he preached as his platform. When he was in office, did he ignore his campaign points?
Nobody needs to watch the video to answer this question, dumbfuck. It's a stupidly simple Google search.
Blake
11-12-2021, 12:48 PM
It's pretty hilarious how super forum detective DMC struggles so mightily with deh Google
diego
11-12-2021, 12:53 PM
You could do the exact same video for Kansas, Wisconsin etc, why aren't they small govt trickle down utopias?
A lot of people have consistently been saying it's not a problem of left or right or economic system, it's a problem of shitty leadership that values getting/staying in power and personal short term benefit over ideals and public long term benefit...
spurraider21
11-12-2021, 01:14 PM
i imagine OP will shorty post something similar of the right wing having some real introspection re: their failed promises
There's a lot of whataboutisms being levied ITT
The question was what would happen if the dems had full power.
ElNono
11-13-2021, 02:49 AM
There's a lot of whataboutisms being levied ITT
The question was what would happen if the dems had full power.
Depends which faction of the Dems, tbh... I do think there would be some consensus for single payer, for example. Would that include a handout to the 1%, BigPharma, etc? You bet.
Depends which faction of the Dems, tbh... I do think there would be some consensus for single payer, for example. Would that include a handout to the 1%, BigPharma, etc? You bet.
Would you agree the affluent dems would be most likely to be in power, not the mid to low income dems? Unless you think these zoning issues in states like California are all because of a specific faction within the democratic voting base, then it should be accepted that, if the data is factual, the tendency to want change as long as it doesn't come from you isn't really a political issue, but more of a human nature issue. So regardless who's in power, the voters themselves are mostly wanting things done by someone other than themselves, in ways that don't require any degradation of their lifestyles.
And that this is true on local government levels especially, where a lofty goal will be introduced because it was demanded by constituents, then dies in committee because of the same constituents.
ElNono
11-13-2021, 06:57 AM
Would you agree the affluent dems would be most likely to be in power, not the mid to low income dems? Unless you think these zoning issues in states like California are all because of a specific faction within the democratic voting base, then it should be accepted that, if the data is factual, the tendency to want change as long as it doesn't come from you isn't really a political issue, but more of a human nature issue. So regardless who's in power, the voters themselves are mostly wanting things done by someone other than themselves, in ways that don't require any degradation of their lifestyles.
And that this is true on local government levels especially, where a lofty goal will be introduced because it was demanded by constituents, then dies in committee because of the same constituents.
I don't know that affluent dems would necessarily be in power, but they would certainly be footing the bill of politicos in power. That works more or less the same regardless of being dem or gop though.
I do see that in local elections you have a teacher or a college professor running for office. I don't know if they often win or not, but the chances are certainly there.
The California zoning laws are a different problem altogether, IMO, and actually are not that different from other big cities like New York, for example, if you ever lived in those places are familiar with the rules. They're possibly a tad more stringent due to earthquake regulations.
The reality is that NIMBYs really come in all sorts of political colors, and they're just one of many problems on the actual crisis, which is housing, in this State. There were plenty of NIMBYs in New Jersey as well, when I lived there.
This is a vast State, and if you really wanted to build, there's plenty of places and areas you can do so at relatively modest prices.
The problem with big cities though, is that they're victims of their own success. Everybody wants to live in the city or surrounding suburbs. Big companies with big salaries are there. Demand is through the roof which drives prices way up, space is a premium, traffic sucks, people don't like long commutes. Homeless don't go to Apple Valley or the desert, there's nothing there for them. This is a way more complicated problem than people would like to admit. I'm not even sure what the actual solution looks like. You could allow everybody to build tall apartment buildings, but not everybody wants to live on those, and considering the demand, most of those will probably go to rentals.
The best I can think of is the State trying to grow other smaller cities into bigger hubs, but that takes a lot of time and money.
About change and doing things by other people, not sure that's true. Realistically, you see a shitload of Teslas here, and I'm not sure how much it takes you to break even in those, even with California gas prices. But a lot of people here, from what I can gather, actually do take it upon themselves to do something personally about the environment. Maybe it was the smog in LA for so long, who knows. Many of those people could be driving a Mercedes, BMW or Audi but they choose to go EV instead. I don't think a perk like access to the carpool lane (which is pretty full anyways) is really the driver here.
Like I said, Dems are far from saints, but I do think in certain areas there are consensus... you take a moderate like Brandon and you take AOC, and I do think there are some areas in environment, healthcare, education where there is some overlap.
Winehole23
11-13-2021, 10:14 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEAq2zDX0AIMdOx?format=jpg&name=medium
RandomGuy
11-15-2021, 09:16 AM
Rich liberals run your party. In essence you're saying the liberals are as bad if not worse than neo fascists. That makes them much worse than your run of the mill conservatives. Why do you continue to support them?
Stopped reading after "in essence" because i am not interested in yet another of your strawman logical fallacies.
RandomGuy
11-15-2021, 09:20 AM
There's a lot of whataboutisms being levied ITT
The question was what would happen if the dems had full power.
You directly said the neo-fascist party didnt do the same thing. Addressing your comment directly is not a whataboutism. Cant have it both ways.
I don't know that affluent dems would necessarily be in power, but they would certainly be footing the bill of politicos in power. That works more or less the same regardless of being dem or gop though.
I do see that in local elections you have a teacher or a college professor running for office. I don't know if they often win or not, but the chances are certainly there.
The California zoning laws are a different problem altogether, IMO, and actually are not that different from other big cities like New York, for example, if you ever lived in those places are familiar with the rules. They're possibly a tad more stringent due to earthquake regulations.
The reality is that NIMBYs really come in all sorts of political colors, and they're just one of many problems on the actual crisis, which is housing, in this State. There were plenty of NIMBYs in New Jersey as well, when I lived there.
This is a vast State, and if you really wanted to build, there's plenty of places and areas you can do so at relatively modest prices.
The problem with big cities though, is that they're victims of their own success. Everybody wants to live in the city or surrounding suburbs. Big companies with big salaries are there. Demand is through the roof which drives prices way up, space is a premium, traffic sucks, people don't like long commutes. Homeless don't go to Apple Valley or the desert, there's nothing there for them. This is a way more complicated problem than people would like to admit. I'm not even sure what the actual solution looks like. You could allow everybody to build tall apartment buildings, but not everybody wants to live on those, and considering the demand, most of those will probably go to rentals.
The best I can think of is the State trying to grow other smaller cities into bigger hubs, but that takes a lot of time and money.
About change and doing things by other people, not sure that's true. Realistically, you see a shitload of Teslas here, and I'm not sure how much it takes you to break even in those, even with California gas prices. But a lot of people here, from what I can gather, actually do take it upon themselves to do something personally about the environment. Maybe it was the smog in LA for so long, who knows. Many of those people could be driving a Mercedes, BMW or Audi but they choose to go EV instead. I don't think a perk like access to the carpool lane (which is pretty full anyways) is really the driver here.
Like I said, Dems are far from saints, but I do think in certain areas there are consensus... you take a moderate like Brandon and you take AOC, and I do think there are some areas in environment, healthcare, education where there is some overlap.
Of course affluent dems will be in charge.
I'd say most people who drive a Tesla aren't doing so to save the world. There are other vehicles out there that would be just as "green". They are doing it because they like Teslas and because it projects an outward message of being green and progressive.
You directly said the neo-fascist party didnt do the same thing. Addressing your comment directly is not a whataboutism. Cant have it both ways.
There's no "neo-fascist" party. You're morphing into Boutons.
ChumpDumper
11-15-2021, 11:56 AM
There's a lot of whataboutisms being levied ITTDoes that bother you somehow?
Do you somehow disapprove of whataboutism?
Winehole23
11-15-2021, 12:08 PM
Does that bother you somehow?
Do you somehow disapprove of whataboutism?They were stealing his shit, tbh
RandomGuy
11-15-2021, 04:35 PM
There's no "neo-fascist" party. You're morphing into Boutons.
A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
What used to be the Republican party seems to fit the bill.
The Trump party has risen from its ashes.
If it looks like a duck and goose-steps like a duck...
ElNono
11-15-2021, 05:27 PM
Of course affluent dems will be in charge.
I'd say most people who drive a Tesla aren't doing so to save the world. There are other vehicles out there that would be just as "green". They are doing it because they like Teslas and because it projects an outward message of being green and progressive.
It doesn't just "project a message", it's actually putting your money where your mouth is, helps the environment and is certainly something they don't need to do for personal gain.
What used to be the Republican party seems to fit the bill.
The Trump party has risen from its ashes.
If it looks like a duck and goose-steps like a duck...
You'd probably try to fuck it.
It doesn't just "project a message", it's actually putting your money where your mouth is, helps the environment and is certainly something they don't need to do for personal gain.
That's what the affluent dems want you to think, and you do. Never mind supporting low income housing in their neighborhoods, just buy a Tesla and suddenly they are supporting green initiatives. Hey, I recycle so I am totally saving the planet.
ElNono
11-15-2021, 07:19 PM
That's what the affluent dems want you to think, and you do. Never mind supporting low income housing in their neighborhoods, just buy a Tesla and suddenly they are supporting green initiatives. Hey, I recycle so I am totally saving the planet.
The biggest NIMBYs (as eloquently put in this oped: https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-spitzer-homelessnes-oc-20180531-story.html) here are affluent republicans and counties, who, BTW, love to drive their Porsche because they truly don't give a shit.
Their solution to homelessness is to outlaw it and put the homeless in jail, which coincidentally is what most other states that have the same problem do. The real challenge is figuring out what a real, humane solution to homelessness looks like, and I won't deny that California hasn't figured it out yet.
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