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Mr. Body
06-16-2022, 04:05 PM
You absolutely take Griffin if he is there at 20. His slide has been wild, albeit not unjustified. But at 20? No brainer.

Yep. There's a point I'd draft nearly any player. Griffin at 20 is definitely a go.

JPB
06-16-2022, 04:06 PM
Dieng lovers who wanted him at #9 pretending it never happened... :D

Mr. Body
06-16-2022, 04:13 PM
Dieng lovers who wanted him at #9 pretending it never happened... :D

He was in my top 4 for the ninth pick but I changed my mind. It happens.

BatManu20
06-16-2022, 04:32 PM
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06-16-2022, 04:36 PM
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06-16-2022, 04:39 PM
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06-16-2022, 04:40 PM
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06-16-2022, 04:42 PM
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06-16-2022, 04:44 PM
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06-16-2022, 04:45 PM
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TD 21
06-16-2022, 04:49 PM
What are all these posts saying? I literally don't see anything but blank space.

rjv
06-16-2022, 04:52 PM
What are all these posts saying? I literally don't see anything but blank space.

it's probably your device. i can't see them on my PC but I can see them on my phone. they're just tweets regarding who has worked out or plans to work out with the spurs.

exstatic
06-16-2022, 04:53 PM
What are all these posts saying? I literally don't see anything but blank space.

They’re tweets. You must have a crap connection to make them load so slowly.

Mr. Body
06-16-2022, 04:54 PM
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Spurs working out Josh Minott twice is intriguing. Check out his PER36 and advanced stats:

https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=josh-minott--jeremy-sochan

He actually compares with Sochan, although he's a year older (as a freshman) and he played far fewer minutes per game. He also projects more as a pure PF and has no jump shot whatsoever - but shoots FTs decently well.

Definitely not Sochan, but this may glimpse for us some of the FO's thought processes. Minott is getting mocked around the Spurs' SRP and they could pull the trigger earlier. Is he a contingency for if Sochan is tagged by some other team? Is he a backup for a PF they think they can get? He's much more of a project, but two workouts shows real interest.

exstatic
06-16-2022, 04:55 PM
With #38, I’d like JayLIN Williams, Butler, or PBJ if he falls that far. A long, tall project that might sign a two way.

Ocotillo
06-16-2022, 05:01 PM
1537498300185817088 Some Primo love! :drunk

RC_Drunkford
06-16-2022, 05:02 PM
the Spurs would be extremely dumb to trade their only All-Star player who's actually loyal to the organization

slick'81
06-16-2022, 05:04 PM
the Spurs would be extremely dumb to trade their only All-Star player who's actually loyal to the organization


they arent

PhantomDashCam
06-16-2022, 05:26 PM
Spurs working out Josh Minott twice is intriguing. Check out his PER36 and advanced stats:

https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=josh-minott--jeremy-sochan

He actually compares with Sochan, although he's a year older (as a freshman) and he played far fewer minutes per game. He also projects more as a pure PF and has no jump shot whatsoever - but shoots FTs decently well.

Definitely not Sochan, but this may glimpse for us some of the FO's thought processes. Minott is getting mocked around the Spurs' SRP and they could pull the trigger earlier. Is he a contingency for if Sochan is tagged by some other team? Is he a backup for a PF they think they can get? He's much more of a project, but two workouts shows real interest.

I’ve thought the same thing.

At the recent Kings workout, they had both Minott and Sochan there.

With the Spurs working out Barlow, Watson, Minott, Sochan and I would suggest probably Dieng, though that is unconfirmed; they may be trying to gauge who’s the best value out of those players.

Although just couple of plays, you can see Minott v Sochan…


https://youtu.be/DAaJJkHXRNM

Degoat
06-16-2022, 05:37 PM
I may just be a naysayer tbh but I think anytime a guy gets two workouts people think it’s because teams are really intrigued by the guy but I kinda think it means they bombed the first workout and asked for another opportunity for a second workout before the draft lol

Dejounte
06-16-2022, 05:43 PM
Really feels like Minott will be one of the picks

I thought he had two workouts already and maybe this is being reported wrong and it’s actually his third?

Mr. Body
06-16-2022, 05:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUSZCgw1uBw&t=595s

Okay, I'm totally convinced the Spurs are going to take like Mathurin or Duren and then Josh Minott at the 20. I'm not prepared to say they'd go full Primo on him, lol.

Dejounte
06-16-2022, 05:53 PM
https://youtu.be/N3cMIg3b6UI

Minott thinks he will go “20-40” lmfao he is the pick for sure. He was trying to beat around the bush but he made it obvious by saying 20

slick'81
06-16-2022, 05:55 PM
https://youtu.be/N3cMIg3b6UI

Minott thinks he will go “20-40” lmfao he is the pick for sure. He was trying to beat around the bush but he made it obvious by saying 20


meet the newest spur

Dejounte
06-16-2022, 06:07 PM
Minott looks like what I thought Nate Renfro could become. If the Spurs believe in Minott enough to spend a FRP on him, then I really like the dude’s potential. A forward who can switch with ease and is athletic as hell. Those videos look like he’s improved upon his shooting form. He’s a nice prospect

Ariel
06-16-2022, 06:09 PM
20 is a pick where for sure someone will fall. I have no problem whatsoever with Minott, he was one of my favs at 38 and even an option for 25, but passing on an opportunity to grab whomever slips to get a guy who will almost surely be available at 25, and probably even at 38, would be a disappointment. Him at Houstan at 20 & 25 would seem like an infatuation. Hope that's not the case.

Mr. Body
06-16-2022, 06:12 PM
Josh Minott feels like the Josh Primo of 2022. Mocks aren't picking up on some really heavy interest. I totally see it. Tons of potential and he has what Primo has -- he's really well spoken and kind of dorky.

Also, mamas need to stop naming their boys Josh and Jalen.

slick'81
06-16-2022, 06:22 PM
Josh Minott feels like the Josh Primo of 2022. Mocks aren't picking up on some really heavy interest. I totally see it. Tons of potential and he has what Primo has -- he's really well spoken and kind of dorky.

Also, mamas need to stop naming their boys Josh and Jalen.

jalen rose started that damn mess

Tailboar
06-16-2022, 06:23 PM
when I logged in.... they appeared. Or under thread tools click printable version

BatManu20
06-16-2022, 06:41 PM
“The Lottery case for Josh Minott.”

John Hollinger has Josh Minott ranked #10 on his big board :wow

Lawd help us if we take this kid at 9 :lol

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slick'81
06-16-2022, 06:43 PM
“Lottery case for Josh Minott”.

Lawd help us if we take him at 9 :lol

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if we could sell ourselves on primo im sure we will for minott:lol

BatManu20
06-16-2022, 06:48 PM
John Hollinger is no bum. He knows his shit when it comes to draft prospects. If he has Minott at #10 on his Big Board, that makes me think there’s some legs to this. Would be a huge climb from projected 2nd Round Pick last month to a potential Top-10 pick now. But we’ve seen crazier things happen. This could be Primo 2.0.

SAGirl
06-16-2022, 06:54 PM
Thanks for sharing batmanu20

BatManu20
06-16-2022, 07:02 PM
Minott’s Pro Day workout.

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And some gym work.

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BatManu20
06-16-2022, 07:03 PM
I can already see the taglines.. “Why not Minott?”

slick'81
06-16-2022, 07:04 PM
I can already see the taglines.. “Why not Minott?”


thats our sf:cry

Mr. Body
06-16-2022, 07:07 PM
"All in for Mathurin."

"Why not Minott?"

"Don't be wary, it's Dalen Terry."

"Don't be sick, we traded this pick."

slick'81
06-16-2022, 07:09 PM
"All in for Mathurin."

"Why not Minott?"

"Don't be wary, it's Dalen Terry."

"Don't be sick, we traded this pick."

"Gotta sniff,catch that whiff."

BatManu20
06-16-2022, 07:16 PM
"All in for Mathurin."

"Why not Minott?"

"Don't be wary, it's Dalen Terry."

"Don't be sick, we traded this pick."

:lol

BatManu20
06-16-2022, 07:16 PM
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Degoat
06-16-2022, 07:29 PM
Gonna be honest I’m not seeing what y’all are seeing with Minott lol 25 sure it’s a shot in the dark but if a Blake Wesley, TyTy Washington, Ej Liddell, Jalen Williams, Agbaji, Eason is available at 20 and we go Minott I’m rioting

Dejounte
06-16-2022, 07:29 PM
Hollinger has Johnny Davis at #29 lower than even Jalen Williams

BatManu20
06-16-2022, 07:51 PM
Yea Hollinger and I can agree to disagree on that. Davis at 29 is laughable imo.

exstatic
06-16-2022, 07:54 PM
I may just be a naysayer tbh but I think anytime a guy gets two workouts people think it’s because teams are really intrigued by the guy but I kinda think it means they bombed the first workout and asked for another opportunity for a second workout before the draft lol

Tony Parker apparently flubbed his first workout.

slick'81
06-16-2022, 07:55 PM
Tony Parker apparently flubbed his first workout.

didn't matter. Presti loved him

Mr. Body
06-16-2022, 07:56 PM
Yea Hollinger and I can agree to disagree on that. Davis at 29 is laughable imo.

The vibing on Johnny Davis seems to depend on the belief that he'll become more efficient once he's not having to carry an entire team's offense all by himself.

RC_Drunkford
06-16-2022, 07:58 PM
who knows maybe they gave him a promise at 20. I like Hollinger's list, it gives you a lot more intel than a mock draft. We've all seen how different drafts can look years later once you know how every player pans out

PhantomDashCam
06-16-2022, 08:19 PM
From Raf. Barlowe recent u/d:


After a strong showing at the NBA draft combine in Chicago and in team workouts, Santa Clara guard Jalen Williams seems to be a lock to be selected in the first round and is rumored to have a floor with the Atlanta Hawks, who own the 16th pick.

Seventyniner
06-16-2022, 08:25 PM
Sure seems like the Spurs are working out a lot more prospects than in previous years, but with three firsts and #38 that shouldn't be surprising at all.

I bet at least one of the Spurs non-#9 picks is going to be someone they're ecstatic with having fallen to them.

PhantomDashCam
06-16-2022, 08:27 PM
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Don’t believe this for a second…and I don’t mean the TP stuff…

Degoat
06-16-2022, 08:40 PM
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Don’t believe this for a second…and I don’t mean the TP stuff…


Man that has to be the loudest sirens going off ever! I think that just about confirms that lol

Ariel
06-16-2022, 08:51 PM
who knows maybe they gave him a promise at 20. I like Hollinger's list, it gives you a lot more intel than a mock draft. We've all seen how different drafts can look years later once you know how every player pans out
What would be the point of that? It's not like he needed reassurance to remain in the draft, and he's showcasing himself as much as he can, so I fail to see what a draft promise would accomplish. If he's there and he's the best available, take him promise or no promise. But if someone falls to your lap and you can't take advantage because of a futile promise, it doesn't seem like a great deal.

In all honesty, I was really looking forward to this draft. Nowadays, I find myself on my toes, hoping every bit of news that comes out proves false.

Ariel
06-16-2022, 08:58 PM
Yep. There's a point I'd draft nearly any player. Griffin at 20 is definitely a go.
There will likely be some HEALTHY players with athleticism and upside who play defense at 20, like Blake Wesley hopefully. I wouldn't take Griffin in front of him just because some random internet guy has been hyping him all year, to the point where he now seems like a bargain at 20.

RC_Drunkford
06-16-2022, 08:58 PM
What would be the point of that? It's not like he needed reassurance to remain in the draft, and he's showcasing himself as much as he can, so I fail to see what a draft promise would accomplish. If he's there and he's the best available, take him promise or no promise. But if someone falls to your lap and you can't take advantage because of a futile promise, it doesn't seem like a great deal.

In all honesty, I was really looking forward to this draft. Nowadays, I find myself on my toes, hoping every bit of news that comes out proves false.

well as you see it seems like the Atlanta Hawks just gave Jalen Williams a promise. Make of that what you want. The Spurs have been giving promises to players prior, like Jordan Poole for example

Ariel
06-16-2022, 09:01 PM
well as you see it seems like the Atlanta Hawks just gave Jalen Williams a promise. Make of that what you want. The Spurs have been giving promises to players prior, like Jordan Poole for example
A promise makes sense when you have something to gain from it. Like making sure a player stays in the draft, or keeping him from other teams, be that workouts or medicals. If Minott was staying in the draft regardless, and he's pimping himself so much he's even working out for teams without a first rounder (like Utah), I fail to see what promising him you'll pick him at 20 is supposed to accomplish.

wildbill2u
06-16-2022, 10:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUSZCgw1uBw&t=595s

Okay, I'm totally convinced the Spurs are going to take like Mathurin or Duren and then Josh Minott at the 20. I'm not prepared to say they'd go full Primo on him, lol.

I hadn't paid much attention to Minott because he was projected so far down in the draft. Comparing him to Sochan, he may be better at defense because he is much faster and a better leaper. Did you notice how several times in this video he actually chased down guards on breakaways in order to block their shots at the basket? He really can cover a lot of ground. . Neither is much of a shooter, but this guy gets scores on dunks off lobs, and offensive rebounds. No outside shooting touch.

He still looks like he is trying to handle the growth in his body and bring it under control. I'm wondering if he has stopped growing. I could see him as a pick at 20 or 25.

Mr. Body
06-16-2022, 10:25 PM
I hadn't paid much attention to Minott because he was projected so far down in the draft. Comparing him to Sochan, he may be better at defense because he is much faster and a better leaper. Did you notice how several times in this video he actually chased down guards on breakaways in order to block their shots at the basket? He really can cover a lot of ground. . Neither is much of a shooter, but this guy gets scores on dunks off lobs, and offensive rebounds. No outside shooting touch.

He still looks like he is trying to handle the growth in his body and bring it under control. I'm wondering if he has stopped growing. I could see him as a pick at 20 or 25.

Sochan is beefier, 20-30 lbs bigger, but isn't as long or the same shotblocker. I wouldn't have thought twice about him unless Hollinger listed him so high in his breakdown and then the news that the Spurs asked him to come back. Whether it was because they wanted to confirm some things or to give him another chance, they were intrigued enough for a second go.

The Truth #6
06-16-2022, 11:09 PM
Hopefully Minott is the smoke screen. He has so few skills at this point. At 25, sure. But 9? Oh, boy. Otra vez…

The Truth #6
06-16-2022, 11:13 PM
Dyson Daniels: I’m off that bus. If I stop squinting to see all the nuance, I see mostly a player who will likely never be assertive enough and always about to break out. I see a lot of Derrick White, which would be cool if we were a contender but were not. Will probably have a long career but feels like a solid role player.

rascal
06-16-2022, 11:28 PM
I hadn't paid much attention to Minott because he was projected so far down in the draft. Comparing him to Sochan, he may be better at defense because he is much faster and a better leaper. Did you notice how several times in this video he actually chased down guards on breakaways in order to block their shots at the basket? He really can cover a lot of ground. . Neither is much of a shooter, but this guy gets scores on dunks off lobs, and offensive rebounds. No outside shooting touch.

He still looks like he is trying to handle the growth in his body and bring it under control. I'm wondering if he has stopped growing. I could see him as a pick at 20 or 25.

He looks more athletic than Sochan around the basket offensively on lob dunks and better at blocks and steals but his shot looks much worse. He won't cost a high number 9 pick like Sochan will so that's good as it opens up the spurs to get another better player at 9.

T Park
06-17-2022, 06:17 AM
You watch the tape on Minott and can see why teams get intrigued, the athleticism and jumping ability is insane. His second jump ability, can’t remember the term, is unreal, loses nothing. Can easily see a team in that 8-13 range scramble panic and take him.

Mr. Body
06-17-2022, 06:39 AM
Judging by what Memphis Tigers fans say, Minott struggled with defensive rotations, knowing what to do. I don't think it's a matter of being unable to understand them, but being very new. He was frustrated with his role, but it sounds like Hardaway couldn't count on him be in the right spots much of the time.

Take that as you will. You can see how raw he is and how different from Sochan, who is more immediately playable. I do think a team can jump on Minott in the second part of the first round and that may be the Spurs, but he's obvs far more of a project.

Dejounte
06-17-2022, 06:41 AM
Jabari Walker

wildbill2u
06-17-2022, 07:32 AM
We are in such need for a couple of players who can come in and enter the rotation at once--or even, God willing, break into the starting lineup at the (PF, SF, SG) it will be a shame to lose a kid like Minott, but some team with a relatively set group who can afford to use a 9-25 pick on a wild pick is probably going to get him. If the Spurs can get him at 20 and are willing to take him I'd be surprised, but would have confidence that they really see something for the furure in him and are willing to reach. It wouldn't be the conservative pick. It would also probably mean they are going in the direction of a long rebuilding process a la Primo.

The Truth #6
06-17-2022, 08:50 AM
I’d still take Eason over Minott. Taking Minott requires so much more time and development and he hasn't much offensive potential.

John B
06-17-2022, 09:32 AM
I wander if he’s the insurance in case Sochan is gone. By the interest on Turner, I’m getting a feeling it’s not going to be Duren or Williams, but going to be Davis at 9. It’s hard for Pop to pass on this guy if available, plays 100% both sides, just looks like a safe bet. If they trade for Turner, they might lose either 20/25. Hence, Minnot and maybe Procida at 38.

Trading for Myles Turner
Davis 9
Minnot 20/25
Procida 38

I still hope they trade their 20/25 whichever is left, Keldon, J-Rich, future picks to reach for Sochan.

wildbill2u
06-17-2022, 10:51 AM
I’d still take Eason over Minott. Taking Minott requires so much more time and development and he hasn't much offensive potential.

I take your point. And I like Eason better than him one on one at this point in their development, mostly because Eason has shown he can shoot some. I doubt we'll get/take him at 20 or 25. Spurs needs are too great for our conservative FO to use those picks on such a raw young player, even if he looks absolutely full of "potential." (There's that word I hate again)

But he's gonna fill out with more muscle mass as he matures with age--- and if he keeps that speed, hops, and attitude while learning the IQ defensuve ropes from good coachinhg, he will be a defensive nightmare for opponents.
I see a lot of Larry Kenon in this kid in his steals, breakaway transitions, etc.

Some team with good veteran core who doesn't need him to play right away is gonna get a good one. We just have too many holes to fill. He's getting good advice to try out before every team in the league. Enough folks are seeing his "potential" to move him up nicely from the second round.

He probably won't ever be a 3pt shooter, but he will get a ton of points on put-backs, lobs, and if he ever develops a little short jump hook, he will be OK on offense.

RC_Drunkford
06-17-2022, 11:49 AM
I wander if he’s the insurance in case Sochan is gone. By the interest on Turner, I’m getting a feeling it’s not going to be Duren or Williams, but going to be Davis at 9. It’s hard for Pop to pass on this guy if available, plays 100% both sides, just looks like a safe bet. If they trade for Turner, they might lose either 20/25. Hence, Minnot and maybe Procida at 38.

Trading for Myles Turner
Davis 9
Minnot 20/25
Procida 38

I still hope they trade their 20/25 whichever is left, Keldon, J-Rich, future picks to reach for Sochan.

you forgot that they will trade Poeltl if they are going for Turner. If the Spurs can deal Poeltl and J-Rich and get a starting C and PF plus 2-3 picks that would be the ideal outcome

BatManu20
06-17-2022, 12:11 PM
Chicago at 18 sounds possible. With the way he’s rising up draft boards, don’t think he’ll be available at 20.

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barakz21
06-17-2022, 12:36 PM
Would love to see best case/worst case player comps for the draftees

BatManu20
06-17-2022, 12:39 PM
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVd_3e7XwAIjdeN?format=jpg&name=medium

BatManu20
06-17-2022, 12:41 PM
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BatManu20
06-17-2022, 12:42 PM
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BatManu20
06-17-2022, 12:43 PM
Thinning Sochan might be their guy.

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BatManu20
06-17-2022, 12:45 PM
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T Park
06-17-2022, 12:56 PM
The outgoing calls isn’t true at all.

BatManu20
06-17-2022, 01:06 PM
The outgoing calls isn’t true at all.

Yea there’s no way lol. That would be incredibly stupid.

Cklbmk
06-17-2022, 01:18 PM
Keldon + 9 for Chet

Draft Jovic or Hardy at 20

Draft something resembling a SF at 25 or use as part of Keldon + 9 for Chet or draft Jovic or Hardy

Draft Moore at 38


Can you dig it

Mr. Body
06-17-2022, 01:24 PM
1. I very well believe the Spurs are targeting a big with the 9th. There's a reason they're checking out guys like Mathurin, however.

2. While it's fun to consider having three rooks on the squad next year, I think they're only targeting two.

Mr. Body
06-17-2022, 02:34 PM
Note that mocks are not picking up on any movement of Josh Minott although the tea leaves suggest he's going into the first round maybe even to twenty or so.

We may be seeing what nobody picked up on last year with Primo. I think Primo is more prepared to contribute now, I can see Minott doing a 'no one saw this coming' thing this year.

The Truth #6
06-17-2022, 02:50 PM
Makes sense but were there any reports of Primo moving up before the draft actually happened? I thought all that talk was retroactive, mostly by Primo’s agent and Brian Wright.

rjv
06-17-2022, 02:51 PM
unless someone on ST has an inside source, we have no idea whether or not the spurs make outgoing calls or not.

Mr. Body
06-17-2022, 02:53 PM
Makes sense but were there any reports of Primo moving up before the draft actually happened? I thought all that talk was retroactive, mostly by Primo’s agent and Brian Wright.

It was all retroactive. I'm just saying that we may have sniffed out similar movement this time.

JPB
06-17-2022, 03:13 PM
Keldon + 9 for Chet

Draft Jovic or Hardy at 20

Draft something resembling a SF at 25 or use as part of Keldon + 9 for Chet or draft Jovic or Hardy

Draft Moore at 38


Can you dig it

Not even close.

JPB
06-17-2022, 03:24 PM
Thinning Sochan might be their guy.

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Wouldn't be surprised by trading out of 25. that's the conversation we've had a little while ago about too many rookies/sophomores on team. They might be past that now, and since there's no decent draft and stash candidates or guy they'd really like at 25, they may want to give the pick away... I would approve that strategy (I'm sure they care).

mo7888
06-17-2022, 03:29 PM
Wouldn't be surprised by trading out of 25. that's the conversation we've had a little while ago about too many rookies/sophomores on team. They might be past that now, and since there's no decent draft and stash candidates or guy they'd really like at 25, they may want to give the pick away... I would approve that strategy (I'm sure they care).

I'm sure we could move 25 or 38 to the lakers for a future 1st...they're shopping for a pick..

Ariel
06-17-2022, 03:34 PM
https://i.ibb.co/b1q67Tm/spurs.jpg

:depressed

mudd
06-17-2022, 03:36 PM
absolutely no way the spurs draft all 4 picks. You would think they will try to give Pop one last chance to go to the finals. They will make some major moves, but who knows how it will play out!

exstatic
06-17-2022, 03:41 PM
https://i.ibb.co/b1q67Tm/spurs.jpg

:depressed

Posted like 2 days after the lottery, in multiple threads.

BatManu20
06-17-2022, 03:47 PM
absolutely no way the spurs draft all 4 picks. You would think they will try to give Pop one last chance to go to the finals. They will make some major moves, but who knows how it will play out!

Pop ain’t ever going back to the Finals bud.

Degoat
06-17-2022, 03:51 PM
Not that it really matters but with a little under a week until the draft there’s gonna be all kinds of junk that will be talked about lol Saw a pic on Instagram of Sochan having Lunch/Dinner with Pelicans David Griffin.

slick'81
06-17-2022, 03:54 PM
Pop ain’t ever going back to the Finals bud.

also a good chance sa never sees another finals barring a miracle,tbh

Ariel
06-17-2022, 04:20 PM
Posted like 2 days after the lottery, in multiple threads.
I know, I'm just revisiting the depression since the draft day is coming... :lol

BatManu20
06-17-2022, 04:22 PM
also a good chance sa never sees another finals barring a miracle,tbh

Possible. I think they will eventually tbh. Might not be in our lifetimes though. :lol

BackHome
06-17-2022, 04:22 PM
Depression and Recession Dark Days Indeed

RC_Drunkford
06-17-2022, 04:29 PM
and just like that reports get leaked the Spurs might trade up for Keegan Murray

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2022/6/16/23172095/report-the-spurs-could-trade-up-for-keegan-murray

BatManu20
06-17-2022, 04:36 PM
That was the report we saw yesterday. About them potentially trading up for Murray. Doubt it happens but we’ll see.

slick'81
06-17-2022, 04:38 PM
Possible. I think they will eventually tbh. Might not be in our lifetimes though. :lol


yea, anything is possible :lobt2:

Degoat
06-17-2022, 04:39 PM
Another thing I noticed today call me crazy, Mathurin mentioned about wanting to play with Primo. I’m almost 90% Sure Primo and Shaedon Sharpe just started following each other on Instagram lol

buttsR4rebounding
06-17-2022, 04:51 PM
Another thing I noticed today call me crazy, Mathurin mentioned about wanting to play with Primo. I’m almost 90% Sure Primo and Shaedon Sharpe just started following each other on Instagram lol

Yeah, I think they are both on the Draft Position Underperformers Facebook page as well. Sharpe getting to know his peeps early.

Degoat
06-17-2022, 04:55 PM
Yeah, I think they are both on the Draft Position Underperformers Facebook page as well. Sharpe getting to know his peeps early.

Ha! Man I really hated that Lonnie joined that group on FB to lol

BatManu20
06-17-2022, 05:17 PM
If reports are any indication, Sacramento apparently loves Keegan Murray. Even over than Jaden Ivey. He’s likely their pick at 4 if you look at what their beat guys are tweeting. Poor bastard’s gonna be stuck in Sacramento. Spurs will have to settle for Sochan.

rascal
06-17-2022, 05:25 PM
If reports are any indication, Sacramento apparently loves Keegan Murray. Even over than Jaden Ivey. He’s likely their pick at 4 if you look at what their beat guys are tweeting. Poor bastard’s gonna be stuck in Sacramento. Spurs will have to settle for Sochan.

It's going to be Sochan and most will be excited with that in here. One of the picks in the 20s will be traded away. The other a project or foreign stash.

exstatic
06-17-2022, 05:30 PM
That was the report we saw yesterday. About them potentially trading up for Murray. Doubt it happens but we’ll see.

It’s a circular firing squad. One doofus floats a rumor, and like 100 Twitter account repeat, but don’t retweet it.

BatManu20
06-17-2022, 07:05 PM
Lol.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVfYFYqUYAARnpc?format=jpg&name=medium

Mr. Body
06-17-2022, 07:10 PM
Lol.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVfYFYqUYAARnpc?format=jpg&name=medium

Lol, what a fuck up.

BatManu20
06-17-2022, 07:10 PM
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BatManu20
06-17-2022, 07:11 PM
Lol, what a fuck up.

Yea, not the best answer there.

BatManu20
06-17-2022, 07:12 PM
Players mocked at 9 from different websites. The usual suspects.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVef_nQXoAAvEqm?format=png&name=900x900

BatManu20
06-17-2022, 07:13 PM
Here’s the full transcript from Shaedon.


Jeff: You worked out with the Spurs ahead of the NBA Draft. How was that?

Shaedon: Well, the workout was a one-on-one workout. So it was just really me there at the workout. It was really good.

Jeff: What kind of feedback did you receive from the Spurs?

Shaedon: The feedback was solid!

Jeff: What are your thoughts on possibly joining the team if you get picked by the Spurs?

Shaedon: If I play with them and end up in San Antonio, I think it will be a good team. I feel like I can really help them by scoring the ball and playing defense.

Jeff: Is there a player on the Spurs roster you'd like to play with?

Shaedon: No not really. I see it just as a place where I can just showcase myself and really play. Get after it!

The NBA Draft 2022 is on June 23. San Antonio owns the 9th, 20th, and 25th pick in the first round.

BatManu20
06-17-2022, 07:17 PM
Lmao this is a real quote. Asked about where he sees himself at the end of his career. This kid’s not short of confidence.


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BatManu20
06-17-2022, 07:18 PM
Think he meant Never*

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duncan2150
06-17-2022, 07:40 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1537844394237231105

Also if the Spurs go for a stash i think it will be Procida without a doubt. We already talked about him but he looks interesting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrIwXJcRE-o

Mr. Body
06-17-2022, 07:42 PM
Think he meant Never*

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Amazing. I totally want Sharpe now. How can you pass on the greatest player to ever play the game?

Degoat
06-17-2022, 07:53 PM
Yup not the answers I would have liked to see from Sharpe lol if that’s how he’s been interviewing no wonder he’s been dropping. I see him falling to New York or Charlotte tbh

CGD
06-17-2022, 07:53 PM
Think he meant Never*

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Lol, well done

Dejounte
06-17-2022, 08:07 PM
Sharpe sounds like a dumbass

PhantomDashCam
06-17-2022, 08:10 PM
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Ocotillo
06-17-2022, 08:16 PM
Another thing I noticed today call me crazy, Mathurin mentioned about wanting to play with Primo. I’m almost 90% Sure Primo and Shaedon Sharpe just started following each other on Instagram lolthat caught my eye too but they are all Canadian ballers is the connection

Mr. Body
06-17-2022, 08:18 PM
I'm voting Beauchamp or Wesley as last green room dudes to get picked. There might have been one or two others.

Russ
06-17-2022, 08:19 PM
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He's clearly over himself. Do what you need to do to get him RC.

T Park
06-17-2022, 08:20 PM
also a good chance sa never sees another finals barring a miracle,tbh

Hogwash

T Park
06-17-2022, 08:23 PM
lol gee I wonder why Sharpe is not wanted by teams. Jesus Christ.

RC_Drunkford
06-17-2022, 08:36 PM
Think he meant Never*

1537831356801208320

lol you can‘t win rookie of the year in the G-League

Ariel
06-17-2022, 08:41 PM
Lol.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVfYFYqUYAARnpc?format=jpg&name=medium
OK, it's settled: he obviously didn't play at Kentucky because he didn't graduate on time. Not his fault, he's just mentally retarded.

Ariel
06-17-2022, 08:44 PM
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F*ck. He's not lasting till 20. There went my hopes.

slick'81
06-17-2022, 08:47 PM
Hogwash

balderdash

heyheymymy
06-17-2022, 08:52 PM
Shaden Sharpe has red flags all over lol already seeing headlines saying Sharpes camp says this or that hmm another player with handlers where have we seen that before? At least Leonard gave you college tape beforehand.

What happens when Sharpes camp decides he wants to play in a bigger market?

PhantomDashCam
06-17-2022, 08:57 PM
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I like Hardy. Doesn’t give the greatest interview tbh but I appreciate his honesty when talking about the G League experience.

RC_Drunkford
06-17-2022, 09:05 PM
Sixers reportedly want to move Danny Green with the 23rd pick attached. Perfect opportunity to move McDermott and trade up

mo7888
06-17-2022, 09:08 PM
Sixers reportedly want to move Danny Green with the 23rd pick attached. Perfect opportunity to move McDermott and trade up

I like that idea... I also like the idea of trading a couple later picks to the Lakers for future unprotected 1sts...add a couple rooks and stock pile picks in future years..

Ariel
06-17-2022, 09:11 PM
Does anybody have the complete list of pre-draft workouts for the Spurs?

PhantomDashCam
06-17-2022, 09:25 PM
Does anybody have the complete list of pre-draft workouts for the Spurs?

Although this list specifies “workouts”, I believe it may also include interviews as well…

And it goes without saying that there would be some we’re unaware of too.

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objective
06-17-2022, 09:31 PM
F*ck. He's not lasting till 20. There went my hopes.

Givony lists 22 players as having green room invites. At least 2 will be there at 20, maybe more. Wesley could be one of them.

Ariel
06-17-2022, 09:41 PM
Although this list specifies “workouts”, I believe it may also include interviews as well…

And it goes without saying that there would be some we’re unaware of too.

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Thanks, but I think it's incomplete as it's missing Dyson Daniels, AJ Griffin, EJ Liddell and others:

OK, here's the list filtered from the previous post, plus hoopshype, plus other sources:

Candidates @ 9:
Dyson Daniels
Jeremy Sochan
AJ Griffin
Jalen Williams
Johnny Davis
Mathurin (interview only)

Candidates @ 20/25:
Tari Eason
Blake Wesley
EJ Liddell
MarJon Beauchamp
Josh Minott
Jake LaRavia
TyTy Washington
Kendall Brown

Candidates @ 38
Gabriele Procida (maybe 25)
Patrick Baldwin Jr.
Jaylin Williams
Alondes Williams
Andrew Nembhard
Wendell Moore Jr.
Harrison Ingram
Jabari Walker

Others:
Shaedon Sharpe (no chance in hell)

If anyone can add to it, great.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-draft-workout-tracker-where-are-prospects-going/
https://www.si.com/nba/spurs/.amp/news/san-antonio-shaedon-sharpe-aj-griffin-ej-liddell-kenneth-lofton-pre-draft-workout-mock-duke-kentucky-ohio-state-gregg-popovich-dejounte-murray

Ariel
06-17-2022, 09:43 PM
Givony lists 22 players as having green room invites. At least 2 will be there at 20, maybe more. Wesley could be one of them.
I know, but I'm taking it as an indication his stock is rising. Other favs of mine at that spot are Eason @ Jalen Williams, both of whom I'm afraid also won't be there. But hope I'm wrong and one of them falls to 20.

Mr. Body
06-17-2022, 09:50 PM
Peculiar. There's so much talk of the Spurs drafting a big man, yet Duren nor M. Williams are on the list. Also, they didn't work out Dieng. I think Dieng is confirmed. The centers may just have been told to not mention the workouts -- strange, again, since many are thinking they will anyway.

Ariel
06-17-2022, 10:06 PM
Peculiar. There's so much talk of the Spurs drafting a big man, yet Duren nor M. Williams are on the list. Also, they didn't work out Dieng. I think Dieng is confirmed. The centers may just have been told to not mention the workouts -- strange, again, since many are thinking they will anyway.
Yes, that's the thing that stands out the most. I can see them hiding interest in Duren, but if they were really interested in Mark Williams I see no real threat in having him workout, since he's extremely unlikely to be taken before 9. So they either had a secret workout and they're extremely interested, or they're not interested at all. No middle ground.

Degoat
06-17-2022, 10:09 PM
Peculiar. There's so much talk of the Spurs drafting a big man, yet Duren nor M. Williams are on the list. Also, they didn't work out Dieng. I think Dieng is confirmed. The centers may just have been told to not mention the workouts -- strange, again, since many are thinking they will anyway.

It is really odd! Unless I’m incorrect they didn’t workout any of the projected 1st round centers (Duren, Williams, Kessler, Koloko). I honestly haven’t the slightest clue wtf the spurs are going to do lol

dokdok
06-17-2022, 10:11 PM
If Sharpe were somehow to drop to us at #9 do we still take him?

PhantomDashCam
06-17-2022, 10:14 PM
https://youtu.be/XX5q5YRQoZc


https://youtu.be/oVS29RE3Qec


https://youtu.be/F1A8zSaxdVo

Ousmane is my prediction at #9. Not sure how I would feel about it tbh.

Degoat
06-17-2022, 10:24 PM
Ousmane Dieng is exactly what we need but he was so bad the first half of his season and would need lots of time to develop to contribute eventually imo.

idk if it’s a language barrier but I didn’t really enjoy hearing his interview much either, his answers were ehhh

RC_Drunkford
06-17-2022, 11:56 PM
I like that idea... I also like the idea of trading a couple later picks to the Lakers for future unprotected 1sts...add a couple rooks and stock pile picks in future years..

If you ask me I would do as follows:

trade Poeltl, J-Rich and #25 for OG Anounoby
trade McDermott for Danny Green + #23
Draft Duren with #9
trade up with 20 + 23 to grab Eason or Jalen Williams
sign Sexton in free agency

Murray/Jones
Vassell/Sexton
Johnson/Primo
Anounoby/Eason
Duren/Collins

that‘s a super solid team and depending on the development of the young guys could be scary in a few years without having any huge contracts on the books

Uriel
06-17-2022, 11:58 PM
Lol.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVfYFYqUYAARnpc?format=jpg&name=medium
Yikes. Major red flag. The fact that he worked out with us at #9 means that his stock is falling. And now it looks like he may not even be picked by us at #9.

slick'81
06-18-2022, 12:12 AM
Yikes. Major red flag. The fact that he worked out with us at #9 means that his stock is falling. And now it looks like he may not even be picked by us at #9.


oh nooooooooz

dokdok
06-18-2022, 12:12 AM
If you ask me I would do as follows:

trade Poeltl, J-Rich and #25 for OG Anounoby
trade McDermott for Danny Green + #23
Draft Duren with #9
trade up with 20 + 23 to grab Eason or Jalen Williams
sign Sexton in free agency

Murray/Jones
Vassell/Sexton
Johnson/Primo
Anounoby/Eason
Duren/Collins

that‘s a super solid team and depending on the development of the young guys could be scary in a few years without having any huge contracts on the books

Would Sexton sign with us knowing he would be coming off the bench in your scenario? Seems like he is young and talented enough to be a starter somewhere else

RC_Drunkford
06-18-2022, 12:21 AM
Would Sexton sign with us knowing he would be coming off the bench in your scenario? Seems like he is young and talented enough to be a starter somewhere else

valid question. I don’t know, but he’s s combo guard so he can also play some point. If he takes some minutes from Tre Jones he‘d still be playing like 30 min per game

Dejounte
06-18-2022, 12:37 AM
Latest prediction

9 Jalen Williams
20 MarJon Beauchamp
25 Josh Minott
38 Jabari Walker

BG_Spurs_Fan
06-18-2022, 01:30 AM
If Sharpe were somehow to drop to us at #9 do we still take him?

I think he falls past 9 and the Spurs don't take him. Maybe Washington if they don't trade their pick. Thibs would hate him in NY as well.

Uriel
06-18-2022, 02:09 AM
The thing with Sharpe is that, even though his personality seems to be a red flag, the same thing was said about Dejounte Murray (which is why he fell) and we still took him anyway and it paid off. If he’s available at #9, should we take the risk and hope it works out the way it did with Murray?

The kid has obvious star potential, after all.

tbdog
06-18-2022, 02:32 AM
Would Sexton sign with us knowing he would be coming off the bench in your scenario? Seems like he is young and talented enough to be a starter somewhere else

The recent leak was that he wants a starting role. Spurs usually don't promise your role. But i suppose they could show they will rehabilitate you like Gay, who started plenty and Zach Collins who was very broken.

T Park
06-18-2022, 03:47 AM
balderdash

Poppycock

T Park
06-18-2022, 03:47 AM
Sixers reportedly want to move Danny Green with the 23rd pick attached. Perfect opportunity to move McDermott and trade up

Would 100% do it

slick'81
06-18-2022, 04:27 AM
Poppycock

flapdoodle

tbdog
06-18-2022, 05:38 AM
Would 100% do it

How would we trade up with 23?

mo7888
06-18-2022, 07:30 AM
If you ask me I would do as follows:

trade Poeltl, J-Rich and #25 for OG Anounoby
trade McDermott for Danny Green + #23
Draft Duren with #9
trade up with 20 + 23 to grab Eason or Jalen Williams
sign Sexton in free agency

Murray/Jones
Vassell/Sexton
Johnson/Primo
Anounoby/Eason
Duren/Collins

that‘s a super solid team and depending on the development of the young guys could be scary in a few years without having any huge contracts on the books

I expect one of Williams or Eason to be available at 20 . I also have Porcida and Liddell in the same tier as Eason so I'd be just as happy with either. That would leave me 23 and 38 to move for future assets. Those are subtle differences though... in general I agree with your strategy..especially the Sexton signing... I think he fits alongside DJ..

exstatic
06-18-2022, 07:41 AM
If you ask me I would do as follows:

trade Poeltl, J-Rich and #25 for OG Anounoby
trade McDermott for Danny Green + #23
Draft Duren with #9
trade up with 20 + 23 to grab Eason or Jalen Williams
sign Sexton in free agency

Murray/Jones
Vassell/Sexton
Johnson/Primo
Anounoby/Eason
Duren/Collins

that‘s a super solid team and depending on the development of the young guys could be scary in a few years without having any huge contracts on the books

Sexton is horrible, defensively, like Forbes class. He’s restricted, so you’ll have to way over pay to keep CLE from matching, and youre stuck with an overpaid bad defender coming off your bench. At least Lonnie has never been overpaid. If you want a bench scoring spark who can’t guard your grandma, just re-sign him. It would be a lot cheaper.

John B
06-18-2022, 08:32 AM
Sharpe falling means another of our guys rising. Geez

I think MJ may want his attitude though, tbh. And Sharpe would love to play for the greatest :lol

TD 21
06-18-2022, 09:16 AM
If you ask me I would do as follows:

trade Poeltl, J-Rich and #25 for OG Anounoby
trade McDermott for Danny Green + #23
Draft Duren with #9
trade up with 20 + 23 to grab Eason or Jalen Williams
sign Sexton in free agency

Murray/Jones
Vassell/Sexton
Johnson/Primo
Anounoby/Eason
Duren/Collins

that‘s a super solid team and depending on the development of the young guys could be scary in a few years without having any huge contracts on the books

That's not getting it done for Anunoby, there's no reason why the 76ers would have any interest in that and there's no way Sexton would be amendable to being 6th man on a team where he'd be the best scorer and that lacks go-to scoring to begin with.

Ariel
06-18-2022, 10:57 AM
Sharpe falling means another of our guys rising. Geez

I think MJ may want his attitude though, tbh. And Sharpe would love to play for the greatest :lol
That would be a missed opportunity... to extort more assets from a team desperate to land him, which I'm sure there will be. The Rockets paid 2 future firsts for Sengun at 16 last year, if Sharpe falls to 9 at the very least you can get another lottery pick plus 1 or 2 future firsts, if not more. I'd have no problem trading down a few spots for that.

Ariel
06-18-2022, 11:01 AM
Sharpe is simply misunderstood... he's so great, other players are not worth stepping onto the same court as him. All bow down to the great Shaedon, the greatest player NEVER to play a meaningful game... they just don't deserve him.

On a serious note, the guy is a Chuck Norris meme caliber a$$hole.

Degoat
06-18-2022, 01:26 PM
Lots of teams seem to be angling to trading their extra picks, Hornets reportedly opened to moving 15, Cavs interested in trading 14 for an additional first rounder (seems like a good trade partner for the spurs potentially 20+25 for 14?)

Russ
06-18-2022, 01:32 PM
Lots of teams seem to be angling to trading their extra picks, Hornets reportedly opened to moving 15, Cavs interested in trading 14 for an additional first rounder (seems like a good trade partner for the spurs potentially 20+25 for 14?)

Sounds like a scenario for a lot of draft night trades. Teams won't know whether they need to (or want to) trade until the draft unfolds -- lots of contingent deals in place so they can be consummated in the few minutes between picks.

Kind of like the draft night the Spurs traded for Kawhi Leonard. Hopefully anyway.

JPB
06-18-2022, 01:44 PM
Ousmane Dieng is exactly what we need but he was so bad the first half of his season and would need lots of time to develop to contribute eventually imo.

idk if it’s a language barrier but I didn’t really enjoy hearing his interview much either, his answers were ehhh

I can see Dieng falling in the 20s. Hell, I can see him dropping in the second round if a team with multiple picks (hello!) doesn't take a flyer on him. For some reason he was way overhyped while his game seems pretty raw, shoot doesn't look really good, doesn't seem to be able to create or eliminate off the dribble. Basically he's there for averaging 20pts/game for its worst team in the second part of the australian at 18. Maybe I'm wrong and with the right development team, he'll flourish but I see him as a decent role player a best who can give you 12-15 minutes or a start here or there if needed at term.

exstatic
06-18-2022, 02:08 PM
Sounds like a scenario for a lot of draft night trades. Teams won't know whether they need to (or want to) trade until the draft unfolds -- lots of contingent deals in place so they can be consummated in the few minutes between picks.

Kind of like the draft night the Spurs traded for Kawhi Leonard. Hopefully anyway.

I’m betting there are frameworks for deals for all 4 picks already in place. Maximum flexibility so that they know when they go on the clock that they have a trade ready and queued up if they feel there isn’t value at one of the pick slots.

Mr. Body
06-18-2022, 02:18 PM
Lots of teams seem to be angling to trading their extra picks, Hornets reportedly opened to moving 15, Cavs interested in trading 14 for an additional first rounder (seems like a good trade partner for the spurs potentially 20+25 for 14?)

If Cleveland is interested, I would absolutely trade up for that pick.

Uriel
06-18-2022, 02:58 PM
Yes, that's the thing that stands out the most. I can see them hiding interest in Duren, but if they were really interested in Mark Williams I see no real threat in having him workout, since he's extremely unlikely to be taken before 9. So they either had a secret workout and they're extremely interested, or they're not interested at all. No middle ground.
I definitely agree it’s possible they’re hiding their interest in Duren by holding a secret workout with him (like they did with Vassell). The fact that they’ve been slated to pick Duren in literally all versions of ESPN’s mock draft though suggests they’re not doing a very good job of hiding their interest.

duncan2150
06-18-2022, 03:07 PM
Lots of teams seem to be angling to trading their extra picks, Hornets reportedly opened to moving 15, Cavs interested in trading 14 for an additional first rounder (seems like a good trade partner for the spurs potentially 20+25 for 14?)

The thing is that those teams may not want additionnal picks. I don't see a lot teams in the 10-18 range wanting more picks maybe OKC or Houston but that's it.

But imo the best thing for the spurs is to use those picks to move up.

RC_Drunkford
06-18-2022, 03:10 PM
Sexton is horrible, defensively, like Forbes class. He’s restricted, so you’ll have to way over pay to keep CLE from matching, and youre stuck with an overpaid bad defender coming off your bench. At least Lonnie has never been overpaid. If you want a bench scoring spark who can’t guard your grandma, just re-sign him. It would be a lot cheaper.

Sexton is way better than Lonnie though

BatManu20
06-18-2022, 03:32 PM
Quick interview with Jalen Williams. I like his attitude and Bball IQ a lot more than Shaedon’s.


Jeff: You worked out with the Spurs ahead of the NBA Draft. How was that?

Jalen: It was really a one-on-one workout. That was expected from San Antonio. It was early and kind of in and out.

Jeff: Did you interview with any of the staff?

Jalen: We got to interview with coach [Gregg] Popovich. That was a pretty cool experience. Something I definitely didn't take for granted, but it was a good workout.

Now it's kind of up in the air with how everyone feels. I had a really solid workout. It was really cool to meet the whole [Spurs] staff and just go through that process with them.


Jeff: Is there a player on the Spurs roster you'd like to play with?

Jalen: I think Dejounte [Murray] is really the pull. We have a lot of similar metrics, and with our wingspans, and what we bring to the defensive side of the ball.

I definitely think it would be fun. That's who I would be looking forward to playing with if I were to become a Spur.

slick'81
06-18-2022, 03:38 PM
Quick interview with Jalen Williams. I like his attitude and Bball IQ a lot more than Shaedon’s.


Jeff: You worked out with the Spurs ahead of the NBA Draft. How was that?

Jalen: It was really a one-on-one workout. That was expected from San Antonio. It was early and kind of in and out.

Jeff: Did you interview with any of the staff?

Jalen: We got to interview with coach [Gregg] Popovich. That was a pretty cool experience. Something I definitely didn't take for granted, but it was a good workout.

Now it's kind of up in the air with how everyone feels. I had a really solid workout. It was really cool to meet the whole [Spurs] staff and just go through that process with them.


Jeff: Is there a player on the Spurs roster you'd like to play with?

Jalen: I think Dejounte [Murray] is really the pull. We have a lot of similar metrics, and with our wingspans, and what we bring to the defensive side of the ball.

I definitely think it would be fun. That's who I would be looking forward to playing with if I were to become a Spur.



i mean who else would they really want to play with other then murray?

heyheymymy
06-18-2022, 04:29 PM
Pretty telling now that Shadeon Sharpe didn't have a Spur player name ready to respond to the interview question when Benedict said Primo and now Jalen W. says DJ.

Like how dumb is Shadeon Sharpe to not know a single player offhand to want to be dynamic with. If I'm a potential NBA player I got the whole league memorized cause that's my job and passion.

heyheymymy
06-18-2022, 04:31 PM
Wow, very thoughtful responses from Jalen W.

That guy is Spurs material.

CGD
06-18-2022, 04:37 PM
Pretty telling now that Shadeon Sharpe didn't have a Spur player name ready to respond to the interview question when Benedict said Primo and now Jalen W. says DJ.

Like how dumb is Shadeon Sharpe to not know a single player offhand to want to be dynamic with. If I'm a potential NBA player I got the whole league memorized cause that's my job and passion.

I think Sharpe has SHITTY handlers more than anything else. Even if you don’t care about the team, you’d think you’d be prepped for that softball. Say nothing of his hide and seek strategy

SAGirl
06-18-2022, 06:22 PM
The thing with Sharpe is that, even though his personality seems to be a red flag, the same thing was said about Dejounte Murray (which is why he fell) and we still took him anyway and it paid off. If he’s available at #9, should we take the risk and hope it works out the way it did with Murray?

The kid has obvious star potential, after all.
Dj didn’t fall bc of personality, he wasn’t good in college. He had a very awful looking shot, tended to chuck difficult shots he was bad at, had TO and ball handling issues, etc. he was also bad on D and his team overall sucked. He fell bc he was a very inefficient player who couldn’t shoot when drafted. He had physical tools, athleticism, a quick first step, etc. but was a project. It’s possible if taken too high and with high expectations placed on him befitting a high lottery pick he would have busted, specially early…. He was a good gamble later in the draft though.

exstatic
06-18-2022, 06:25 PM
Dj didn’t fall bc of personality, he wasn’t good in college. He had a very awful looking shot, tended to chuck difficult shots he was bad at, had TO and ball handling issues, etc. he was also bad on D and his team overall sucked. He fell bc he was a very inefficient player who couldn’t shoot when drafted. He had physical tools, athleticism, a quick first step, etc. but was a project. It’s possible if taken too high and with high expectations placed on him befitting a high lottery pick he would have busted, specially early…. He was a good gamble later in the draft though.

He fell because he was gang affiliated when younger. He’s talked about it in some background pieces. It scared some teams off.

Thank God Jamal Crawford saw a basketball future for him. Got him off the streets and into the gym.

mo7888
06-18-2022, 06:28 PM
A little OT but if Miami make a play gor Mitchell on draft night what do you think it would take for us to pry Herro out of the deal?

SAGirl
06-18-2022, 06:30 PM
He fell because he was gang affiliated when younger. He’s talked about it in some background pieces. It scared some teams off.

Thank God Jamal Crawford saw a basketball future for him. Got him off the streets and into the gym.
That’s interesting and he may believe that was it, but I think what I stated was a bigger factor… though he wouldn’t come out and say yea I wasn’t that good in college…

BatManu20
06-18-2022, 06:32 PM
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tmtcsc
06-18-2022, 06:40 PM
Lots of teams seem to be angling to trading their extra picks, Hornets reportedly opened to moving 15, Cavs interested in trading 14 for an additional first rounder (seems like a good trade partner for the spurs potentially 20+25 for 14?)

Unfortunately, all this movement confirms this is a shitty draft year. Of course this would be the year the Spurs have 3 1st round picks. F'n nephew...

tmtcsc
06-18-2022, 06:45 PM
Sixers reportedly want to move Danny Green with the 23rd pick attached. Perfect opportunity to move McDermott and trade up

You're forgetting the Spurs moved on from DGreen when they realized his play had regressed to dogshit. Yeah, I don't care about the Toronto title year.

slick'81
06-18-2022, 06:50 PM
You're forgetting the Spurs moved on from DGreen when they realized his play had regressed to dogshit. Yeah, I don't care about the Toronto title year.

yea,something tells me pop is over DG

CGD
06-18-2022, 07:18 PM
Everyone just speculating at this point lol.

CGD
06-18-2022, 07:20 PM
Unfortunately, all this movement confirms this is a shitty draft year. Of course this would be the year the Spurs have 3 1st round picks. F'n nephew...

That and the fact that there are like 4 teams with at least 3 picks, so packaging two for one is probably harder this time around. Would have to be a pick and a player to move up I’d think.

Mr. Body
06-18-2022, 07:24 PM
Unfortunately, all this movement confirms this is a shitty draft year. Of course this would be the year the Spurs have 3 1st round picks. F'n nephew...

The Hornets already have two rookies from last year. Trading a pick makes sense. It says Cleveland may actually want a second one. As for the rest, something like six teams have half the first round picks, so of course they are ooking to consolidate or trade some out.

PhantomDashCam
06-18-2022, 07:57 PM
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rankingtear
06-18-2022, 08:28 PM
Rusillo pod with Sam: Dieng has a soft promise in the lottery but would go higher than that spot. The rumor is at CLE at 14. CLE is his only barely reported workout and clear path to starting in a few years.

T Park
06-18-2022, 08:39 PM
That’s interesting and he may believe that was it, but I think what I stated was a bigger factor… though he wouldn’t come out and say yea I wasn’t that good in college…

It’s been said by Murray himself teams passed on him because of his “past”

Dejounte
06-18-2022, 08:44 PM
https://twitter.com/jhimijhamir/status/1538285100181229568

T Park
06-18-2022, 08:46 PM
14 and 9 is appealing to trade up farther as well….

Dejounte
06-18-2022, 08:56 PM
Another Sharpe classic

“I don’t really regret (not) playing,” Sharpe said in a pre-draft interview Friday. “I’m working out with NBA teams now, so I guess I did something right.”

this dude is dumb as bricks

makes it sound like he really did opt out of playing

Mr. Body
06-18-2022, 09:02 PM
https://twitter.com/jhimijhamir/status/1538285100181229568

That would be a great trade... but Max Christie?

Degoat
06-18-2022, 09:09 PM
https://twitter.com/jhimijhamir/status/1538285100181229568

It makes some sense for both team to agree to that deal tbh I could see the Cavs being a Josh Richardson destination as well too

Dejounte
06-18-2022, 09:16 PM
https://twitter.com/SacramentoKings/status/1537948206738178050

Losing brain cells listening to this guy speak

SAGirl
06-18-2022, 09:28 PM
It’s been said by Murray himself teams passed on him because of his “past”
Redundant comment repeating something that excstatic already mentioned and I specifically replied to.

SAGirl
06-18-2022, 09:33 PM
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lmbebo
06-18-2022, 09:40 PM
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Take a flyer on him at 20 or 25

T Park
06-18-2022, 09:41 PM
Another Sharpe classic

“I don’t really regret (not) playing,” Sharpe said in a pre-draft interview Friday. “I’m working out with NBA teams now, so I guess I did something right.”

this dude is dumb as bricks

makes it sound like he really did opt out of playing


This guy makes Francisco Elson look like a Rhodes scholar.

T Park
06-18-2022, 09:42 PM
Redundant comment repeating something that excstatic already mentioned and I specifically replied to.

Lol

T Park
06-18-2022, 09:42 PM
Take a flyer on him at 20 or 25

Hell no.

heyheymymy
06-18-2022, 10:14 PM
Shadeon Sharpe more like Shady Sharpe, how many red flags so far?

- weird deal with UK to not play, play next year, but backs out on the school with seemingly poor notice and shitty communication, declares for draft

- clearly has a shady camp entourage in his ear, which will likely stand between franchise and player and influence

- can't even do a quick scouting homework before interview with Spurs, unable to list any specific player

- multiple arrogant media responses

heyheymymy
06-18-2022, 10:16 PM
I could see that weak spurs interview answer being sabotage to warn off SA from picking Sharpe.

Mr. Body
06-18-2022, 10:16 PM
Shadeon Sharpe more like Shady Sharpe, how many red flags so far?

- weird deal with UK to not play, play next year, but backs out on the school with seemingly poor notice and shitty communication, declares for draft

- clearly has a shady camp entourage in his ear, which will likely stand between franchise and player and influence

- can't even do a quick scouting homework before interview with Spurs, unable to list any specific player

- multiple arrogant media responses

His high school suddenly finds confirmation that he can be drafted this year.

heyheymymy
06-18-2022, 10:17 PM
His high school suddenly finds confirmation that he can be drafted this year.

Shady Sharpe

heyheymymy
06-18-2022, 10:20 PM
At least for Leonards entourage influence he came with plenty tape as a proof of concept

take a snake like gamble on Shady Sharpe without even knowing he works, no way.

Ariel
06-18-2022, 10:32 PM
https://hoopshype.com/lists/aggregate-nba-mock-draft-trade-rumors-ousmane-dieng-lottery-jalen-williams-top-20/

Wesley has worked out for the Spurs, who own this pick, but rival executives believe San Antonio is a potential candidate to try and move up in the draft.

XDT76
06-19-2022, 12:12 AM
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We need him to go top 8

Uriel
06-19-2022, 01:18 AM
Honestly, part of me wants Sharpe to fall out of the top 10, if only to show future prospects that pulling off a stunt like sitting out the entire year to protect your draft stock is a horrible idea that won’t work.

BG_Spurs_Fan
06-19-2022, 01:51 AM
It's incredible how there doesn't appear to be a single person with half a brain in Sharpe's entourage to advise him about interviews. It's not unusual to have a dumb 19 year old kid, who's easily influenced but when it comes to millions of dollars there must be someone to help out, must be.

PhantomDashCam
06-19-2022, 02:40 AM
I think this Sharpe situation is being somewhat overblown tbh.

If his team is credible enough to keep his name floating in draft circles through a very unusual, opaque pre-draft process; they would also be able to help manipulate a fall to a place of interest.

What better way to help your future ball club than allowing them to grab you at a designated position without any other assets required to move up in a trade. It may be a long shot that he falls that far but that team is very likely OKC at 12.

Rito3d30
06-19-2022, 03:13 AM
Jeff: Is there a player on the Spurs roster you'd like to play with?

Shaedon: No not really. I see it just as a place where I can just showcase myself and really play. Get after it!

Whoa.....just Whoa:lol

ragas
06-19-2022, 03:56 AM
Quick interview with Jalen Williams. I like his attitude and Bball IQ a lot more than Shaedon’s.


Jeff: You worked out with the Spurs ahead of the NBA Draft. How was that?

Jalen: It was really a one-on-one workout. That was expected from San Antonio. It was early and kind of in and out.

Jeff: Did you interview with any of the staff?

Jalen: We got to interview with coach [Gregg] Popovich. That was a pretty cool experience. Something I definitely didn't take for granted, but it was a good workout.

Now it's kind of up in the air with how everyone feels. I had a really solid workout. It was really cool to meet the whole [Spurs] staff and just go through that process with them.


Jeff: Is there a player on the Spurs roster you'd like to play with?

Jalen: I think Dejounte [Murray] is really the pull. We have a lot of similar metrics, and with our wingspans, and what we bring to the defensive side of the ball.

I definitely think it would be fun. That's who I would be looking forward to playing with if I were to become a Spur.



More from him in the Draftdaq podcast. Very impressive.
https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/the-draftdaq-nba-draft-podcast/id1479101969?i=1000566985788

RC_Drunkford
06-19-2022, 04:59 AM
You're forgetting the Spurs moved on from DGreen when they realized his play had regressed to dogshit. Yeah, I don't care about the Toronto title year.

you're forgetting that Danny Green is out for an entire year and on an expiring deal. He would never play a game for the Spurs. It's about getting rid of McDermott and getting an asset for him

BatManu20
06-19-2022, 07:29 AM
https://twitter.com/SacramentoKings/status/1537948206738178050

Losing brain cells listening to this guy speak

“Give them their little shine” lol. “Playing 1 though 5” lmao. This dude is dumb as hell :lol.

He’s definitely falling out of the top-9 imo. He’s gotta be one of the worst interviews of any of the prospects we’ve seen in the lottery. This matters to teams.

BatManu20
06-19-2022, 07:32 AM
Honestly I don’t think he gets past the Wizards or Knicks at 10 or 11, simply because at that point he’s worth a swing for the fences, and both those teams need Guard help. But I sure as hell wouldn’t want him on my team.

He’s got some talent obviously, but he seems pretty fucking dumb, even compared to your average 19-year-old. His attitude is meh. The fact that he hasn’t played competitive basketball in a year and a half is weird. His entire pre-draft situation has been weird. He doesn’t seem to have very intelligent advisors right now. Altogether, I’m pretty confident the Spurs aren’t even interested at this point.

SAGirl
06-19-2022, 08:52 AM
Very interesting comparison, kind of pessimistic but bc it’s against the consensus grain I found it interesting.
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BatManu20
06-19-2022, 12:55 PM
Chet in OKC will be interesting. He and Poku on the floor together will be entertaining if nothing else :lol

BatManu20
06-19-2022, 12:55 PM
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BatManu20
06-19-2022, 01:02 PM
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exstatic
06-19-2022, 01:20 PM
You're forgetting the Spurs moved on from DGreen when they realized his play had regressed to dogshit. Yeah, I don't care about the Toronto title year.

He tore his ACL. It would be cap space rental to get him with a FRP from Philly attached.

exstatic
06-19-2022, 01:23 PM
I could see that weak spurs interview answer being sabotage to warn off SA from picking Sharpe.
Then he did it for Sacto, too. Even doing that is a character flaw, in my eyes. Haliburton, for some reason, wanted to go to Sacto two years ago, and just told teams. Be a man.

BatManu20
06-19-2022, 01:23 PM
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duncan2150
06-19-2022, 01:24 PM
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I went to see that measurements earlier and i was thinking he was longer : close to 6'7 in shoes. Looks longer maybe because he is a little bit thin.

heyheymymy
06-19-2022, 01:46 PM
Then he did it for Sacto, too. Even doing that is a character flaw, in my eyes. Haliburton, for some reason, wanted to go to Sacto two years ago, and just told teams. Be a man.

Perhaps Sharpe's camp is eyeing that D.C. or NYC TV market as a sweet spot over everyone else in the lottery, save perhaps Portland? Not sure if that makes sense but I could see Wizards and Knicks as the perception of top TV markets in the 2022 lottery. Houston is huge but maybe Sharpe knows he won't go that early at #3?

Don't really see a juicier market, maybe Charlotte? If markets mattered I bet Sacto and SA are undesirable then.

BatManu20
06-19-2022, 01:47 PM
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rascal
06-19-2022, 02:38 PM
Honestly I don’t think he gets past the Wizards or Knicks at 10 or 11, simply because at that point he’s worth a swing for the fences, and both those teams need Guard help. But I sure as hell wouldn’t want him on my team.

He’s got some talent obviously, but he seems pretty fucking dumb, even compared to your average 19-year-old. His attitude is meh. The fact that he hasn’t played competitive basketball in a year and a half is weird. His entire pre-draft situation has been weird. He doesn’t seem to have very intelligent advisors right now. Altogether, I’m pretty confident the Spurs aren’t even interested at this point.

OK City wants to move up to 4 or 7 with Dort and 12 to get Sharpe or Ivey. Presti knows what he's doing.

Sharpe knows what's he's doing, no interest in San Antonio or Sacramento. Spurs are one of the least talented teams in the league. He mentioned he would like to play with SGA in OK City.

Sharpe wants to go to OK City with those young up and coming stars(Giddey, SGA, Dort(may be moved in a trade up) and hopefully J Smith or Ivey) not teams like San Antonio and Sacramento.

Dejounte
06-19-2022, 02:55 PM
OK City wants to move up to 4 or 7 with Dort and 12 to get Sharpe or Ivey. Presti knows what he's doing.

Sharpe knows what's he's doing, no interest in San Antonio or Sacramento. Spurs are one of the least talented teams in the league. He mentioned he would like to play with SGA in OK City.

Sharpe wants to go to OK City with those young up and coming stars(Giddey, SGA, Dort(may be moved in a trade up) and hopefully J Smith or Ivey) not teams like San Antonio and Sacramento.

Yeah, there are no facts in this post. Just pure hearsay. I will laugh my ass off if Sharpe goes past the OKC (#12) pick this Thursday.

Kevin
06-19-2022, 03:32 PM
He tore his ACL. It would be cap space rental to get him with a FRP from Philly attached.

I am not so sure the Spurs will deal both Doug and Richardson prior to the trade deadline because that would be a full tank move which this FO has yet to do. One of them will be gone by the mid season deadline but not both. They probably deal Richardson for assets and keep paying Doug.

JPB
06-19-2022, 03:40 PM
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These "University" guys and their 4K followers don't know more than you and me. They just read the same as we do then play the insiders on Twitter. I'm hearing whispers too.

exstatic
06-19-2022, 05:13 PM
I am not so sure the Spurs will deal both Doug and Richardson prior to the trade deadline because that would be a full tank move which this FO has yet to do. One of them will be gone by the mid season deadline but not both. They probably deal Richardson for assets and keep paying Doug.

I’m pretty sure they’ll move McD if they get just about any offer. Also, don’t forget there may be free agents in positions of need and/or draftees.

Mr. Body
06-19-2022, 05:59 PM
OK City wants to move up to 4 or 7 with Dort and 12 to get Sharpe or Ivey. Presti knows what he's doing.

Sharpe knows what's he's doing, no interest in San Antonio or Sacramento. Spurs are one of the least talented teams in the league. He mentioned he would like to play with SGA in OK City.

Sharpe wants to go to OK City with those young up and coming stars(Giddey, SGA, Dort(may be moved in a trade up) and hopefully J Smith or Ivey) not teams like San Antonio and Sacramento.

The weirdest narrative emerging from fans in this draft is this notion that players (Chet, Sharpe) are forcing their way to OKC. Oklahoma City. Forcing their way there to play with their wealth of talent. And live in Oklahoma City.

The second most bizarre narrative among casual fans is that OKC has a wealth of talent.

slick'81
06-19-2022, 06:03 PM
The weirdest narrative emerging from fans in this draft is this notion that players (Chet, Sharpe) are forcing their way to OKC. Oklahoma City. Forcing their way there to play with their wealth of talent. And live in Oklahoma City.

The second most bizarre narrative among casual fans is that OKC has a wealth of talent.

wth thinks okc has a "wealth" of talent

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06-19-2022, 06:34 PM
wth thinks okc has a "wealth" of talent

lol, wealth may be a strong word, but it's downright stupid to think they are not better positioned than we are, given the young talent they have now is equal to ours at worst, and they have 8 gazillion picks and swaps over the next 5 gazillion years.

So while they aren't the 2015 Warriors, they are most definitely no bums with SGA, Giddey, Poku, & Dort, which at worst could potentially each garner them a 1st round pick back in the right situation. Much more for SGA.

I think we're like, or closer to .500 against them than we should be over the last 3 years when ostensibly we should have been crushing them when they have been amongst the worst teams in the league over that span. Now they're about to add two picks inside the top 12. If they go Chet, they'll have a stout defensive presence. Or if Smith and Banchero, a stout offensive pairing to go with the passing of Giddey and scoring of SGA. They're about to be a whole bunch better in 4 days, amost assuredly. Whereas we have lots of question marks about our draft.

talkspurs
06-19-2022, 06:42 PM
Then he did it for Sacto, too. Even doing that is a character flaw, in my eyes. Haliburton, for some reason, wanted to go to Sacto two years ago, and just told teams. Be a man.

I did not know that about haliburton till you mentioned it. Makes the trade look that much worse they did last year.

rascal
06-19-2022, 06:54 PM
The weirdest narrative emerging from fans in this draft is this notion that players (Chet, Sharpe) are forcing their way to OKC. Oklahoma City. Forcing their way there to play with their wealth of talent. And live in Oklahoma City.

The second most bizarre narrative among casual fans is that OKC has a wealth of talent.

They are more talented than the spurs.

scott
06-19-2022, 06:57 PM
Yeah, there are no facts in this post. Just pure hearsay. I will laugh my ass off if Sharpe goes past the OKC (#12) pick this Thursday.

You have to remember, can't-miss-prospect and future all-time GOAT, Sharpe reminds rascal of Dr. J... so... you know, or something.

rascal
06-19-2022, 07:05 PM
Don't sleep on what Presti will pull off in this draft.

He can come away with two top ten picks and he's targeting athleticism Ivey or Sharpe along with what he does with the number 2 pick adding that to SAG and Giddey (a better backcourt than what the Spurs have).

rascal
06-19-2022, 07:14 PM
The weirdest narrative emerging from fans in this draft is this notion that players (Chet, Sharpe) are forcing their way to OKC. Oklahoma City. Forcing their way there to play with their wealth of talent. And live in Oklahoma City.

The second most bizarre narrative among casual fans is that OKC has a wealth of talent.

That's what's being rumored similar to any rumors you hear that the Spurs may be doing that you are commenting on and buying into.

The Truth #6
06-19-2022, 09:04 PM
I really hope Timvp is a paid informant and all this Caleb Houstan/Max Christie talk is a smokescreen to distract other bloggers and teams somehow. Sigh.

Mr. Body
06-19-2022, 09:08 PM
wth thinks okc has a "wealth" of talent

You'd be surprised. I was getting into it with some Pels fans about how incredible the Thunder roster is and how close they are to ruling the west. I see an incoherent roster with pieces that don't fit together and no direction. Also people seem to think Luguentz Dort is this phenomenal, peerless talent.

OKC looks rudderless.

mo7888
06-19-2022, 09:16 PM
You'd be surprised. I was getting into it with some Pels fans about how incredible their roster is and how close they are to ruling the west. I see an incoherent roster with pieces that don't fit together and no direction. Also people seem to think Luguentz Dort is this phenomenal, peerless talent.

OKC looks rudderless.

I don't get the okc love either.... they have one real player on that team and another who might turn into a good player....from a draft pick perspective they're loaded but that hasn't manifested itself on the court yet...

rascal
06-19-2022, 09:43 PM
You'd be surprised. I was getting into it with some Pels fans about how incredible the Thunder roster is and how close they are to ruling the west. I see an incoherent roster with pieces that don't fit together and no direction. Also people seem to think Luguentz Dort is this phenomenal, peerless talent.

OKC looks rudderless.

Pels look better than the Spurs.

mo7888
06-19-2022, 09:51 PM
Pels look better than the Spurs.

No they don't...they have more assets in draft capital and they may look better after this draft but today they don't look as good..

rascal
06-19-2022, 09:52 PM
You have to remember, can't-miss-prospect and future all-time GOAT, Sharpe reminds rascal of Dr. J... so... you know, or something.

Sharpe makes shots at 18 like Dr. J with his hang time.

At 19 he has a better vertical than Jordan so the athleticism and potential super star upside is there.

slick'81
06-19-2022, 09:58 PM
lol, wealth may be a strong word, but it's downright stupid to think they are not better positioned than we are, given the young talent they have now is equal to ours at worst, and they have 8 gazillion picks and swaps over the next 5 gazillion years.

So while they aren't the 2015 Warriors, they are most definitely no bums with SGA, Giddey, Poku, & Dort, which at worst could potentially each garner them a 1st round pick back in the right situation. Much more for SGA.

I think we're like, or closer to .500 against them than we should be over the last 3 years when ostensibly we should have been crushing them when they have been amongst the worst teams in the league over that span. Now they're about to add two picks inside the top 12. If they go Chet, they'll have a stout defensive presence. Or if Smith and Banchero, a stout offensive pairing to go with the passing of Giddey and scoring of SGA. They're about to be a whole bunch better in 4 days, amost assuredly. Whereas we have lots of question marks about our draft.

im definitely not going to argue the spurs aren't falling behind. They need a elite level talent to pair with murray or this treadmill end of the lottery bs will continue

Mr. Body
06-19-2022, 10:01 PM
Pels look better than the Spurs.

Pels fans were talking about OKC. We were talking about the Thunder.

rascal
06-19-2022, 10:01 PM
No they don't...they have more assets in draft capital and they may look better after this draft but today they don't look as good..

You must have been sleeping during the play in game.

They beat the Spurs with Zion not playing and now even have a pick ahead of the Spurs and might snatch Mathurin right before the Spurs.

mo7888
06-19-2022, 10:02 PM
You must have been sleeping during the play in game.

Okc was in the play in game?

Mr. Body
06-19-2022, 10:04 PM
I don't get the okc love either.... they have one real player on that team and another who might turn into a good player....from a draft pick perspective they're loaded but that hasn't manifested itself on the court yet...

Giddey needs shooters and the team has no shooters. If they pick Holmgren they need some beef to help him down low. They have no beef, just that awful sorhooting twig they already have. If they draft Sharpe or actually trade up for him... Jesus that team is a mess.

objective
06-19-2022, 10:07 PM
The only reason OKC didn't have an equal record with SA is because they chose to lose, not because they had a big talent deficit with SA. If they had played horford, SGA, Dort, Giddey, etc when they could have the last 2 years.

Spurs and OKC had near identical winning percentages in 20-21 in games where SGA played