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SpursforSix
11-16-2021, 10:31 AM
Ji-Young which is a Korean name. I don't really care what any of the Muppets ethnicity.

But it is strange to me that they don't depict her with narrower eyes. I mean...that's a real trait. Why not celebrate the difference. I can't look at this picture and tell what race she is.
For that matter, what the fuck is Ernie anyway?
https://japantoday-asset.scdn3.secure.raxcdn.com/img/store/ca/ba/88000c5bf4e9b72a99a8010890eb14d8efe2/download/_w850.jpg


What are any muppets?

https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/2fa/f84/88c9ce07eab5cbe921e6dc35047007aa21-the-muppet-show.rsquare.w700.jpg

benefactor
11-16-2021, 11:14 AM
Yeah this is dumb. She looks like any other Muppet. And has anyone explained to kids that the dude in the back by Animal and the chick with the long hair are high as shit all the time?

SpursforSix
11-16-2021, 11:30 AM
Yeah this is dumb. She looks like any other Muppet. And has anyone explained to kids that the dude in the back by Animal and the chick with the long hair are high as shit all the time?

yeah...nothing to see here

https://toughpigs.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/mayhem.png

Chucho
11-16-2021, 01:00 PM
She'll be great in skits for math and computer repair, but fair to think she won't be great as a Driver's Ed muppet.

ChumpDumper
11-16-2021, 01:11 PM
Yeah this is dumb. She looks like any other Muppet. And has anyone explained to kids that the dude in the back by Animal and the chick with the long hair are high as shit all the time?


yeah...nothing to see here

https://toughpigs.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/mayhem.pngTo be fair, the Muppet Show muppets have had nothing to do with Sesame Street for decades. Different owners.

It was weird before 2000.

SpursforSix
11-16-2021, 01:14 PM
I mean...what the fuck are the muppets anyway. Other than the obvious two white guys in the balcony, what is everyone else?
I guess Bert is obviously white (even though he's yellow). If we're going to celebrate diversity, then let's make the muppets look like the race they are portraying.
Koreans have narrow eyes. It's not a slam on Koreans. It's just a physical trait. I'd be kind of pissed if I was Korean that they Americanized the Korean muppet.
How is this any different than getting whites to portray Native Americans in movies?

SpursforSix
11-16-2021, 01:16 PM
they went to the extent of giving the black muppets afros

https://i2.wp.com/amsterdamnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Sesame_Street_Puppets__Photo_Courtesy_Zach_Hyman_S esame_Workshop_.jpg?fit=1024%2C676&ssl=1

SpursforSix
11-16-2021, 01:17 PM
here's an Afghan Muppet with her hijab

https://seattleglobalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Zari-Afghan-Muppet-1.jpg

Chucho
11-16-2021, 01:22 PM
There was even a muppet who "died" from AIDs, IIRC.

SpursforSix
11-16-2021, 01:22 PM
To be fair, the Muppet Show muppets have had nothing to do with Sesame Street for decades. Different owners.

It was weird before 2000.

that's a good point which I don't think I was aware of. I don't know that it changes my thoughts on the Korean muppet looking just like any other random muppet.
I suppose they'll integrate her customs which is good. But if I'm a little Korean girl, I don't know that I identify with that. Why are they not making the Korean muppet look Korean?

SpursforSix
11-16-2021, 01:30 PM
In fact...after some Googling, they just dealt with this in June with a Filipino girl getting bullied on the shape of her eyes.

“Your eyes tell the story of your family. They show where you come from, and how you came to be. The color, the shape, and the size. Should always make you proud of your eyes,” the characters sing in the video titled “Proud of Your Eyes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhnWnWoVAk0).”

ChumpDumper
11-16-2021, 01:34 PM
that's a good point which I don't think I was aware of. I don't know that it changes my thoughts on the Korean muppet looking just like any other random muppet.
I suppose they'll integrate her customs which is good. But if I'm a little Korean girl, I don't know that I identify with that. Why are they not making the Korean muppet look Korean?I think there's a line they have to walk between faithful representation and stereotyping; being criticized for not narrowing the eyes is probably easier to take than being criticized for narrowing them "too much." This goes all the way back to the 70s, when Roosevelt Franklin was at once too black and not black enough (he was purple).

SpursforSix
11-16-2021, 02:46 PM
I think there's a line they have to walk between faithful representation and stereotyping; being criticized for not narrowing the eyes is probably easier to take than being criticized for narrowing them "too much." This goes all the way back to the 70s, when Roosevelt Franklin was at once too black and not black enough (he was purple).

I'm sure they thought it through and made a business decision. But in light of the episode quote that I posted above, it seems like they're contradicting their earlier position.

DMC
11-16-2021, 06:35 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/evBZFdgjXWg/maxresdefault.jpg

Mexican muppet

Ef-man
11-16-2021, 07:13 PM
Muppet with fat hands and feet.

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/otEjOWglL.VXr6G9xXs9xw--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAwO2lsPXBsYW5l/http://40.media.tumblr.com/81b9faf17d92c34ea221497d97f018de/tumblr_inline_o0ytfmz7gG1t0ijhl_1280.jpg

SpursforSix
11-17-2021, 12:39 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/evBZFdgjXWg/maxresdefault.jpg

Mexican muppet

that's not a muppet. I think anyway.

DMC
11-17-2021, 06:00 PM
btw I thought the thread title was about the new mayor of Boston.

koriwhat
11-19-2021, 08:21 PM
Why are they not making the Korean muppet look Korean?

Because everything is racist! Hahahaha