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scott
06-23-2003, 02:05 PM
As an alternative to bickering about who we want, let's see what we actually think will happen.

2 points for Correctly predicting a player goes to a different team than the one he is currently on

1 point for correctly predicting a player stays on his current team

You can edit your picks up until June 1.

Winner gets absolutely nothing.

Jason Kidd – NJ

Jermaine O’Neal – IND

Elton Brand – SA

Gary Payton – POR

Juwan Howard - LAL

Karl Malone - UTAH

Alonzo Mourning - DAL

PJ Brown - DAL

Scottie Pippen - LAL

Robert Horry – HOU

Gilbert Arenas - DEN

Michael Olowokandi – DEN

Andre Miller – UTAH

Corey Maggette – LAC

Lamar Odom – LAC

Brad Miller – IND

Rasho Nesterovich – MIN

Rip Hamilton – DET

Jason Terry – ATL

KoriEllis
06-23-2003, 02:55 PM
Jason Kidd – NJ

Jermaine O’Neal – SA

Elton Brand – LAC

Gary Payton – MIA

Juwan Howard - DET

Karl Malone - DAL

Alonzo Mourning - POR

PJ Brown - LAL

Scottie Pippen - POR

Robert Horry – HOU

Gilbert Arenas - DEN

Michael Olowokandi – DEN

Andre Miller – UTA

Corey Maggette – LAC

Lamar Odom – LAC

Brad Miller – IND

Rasho Nesterovich – MIN

Rip Hamilton – DET

Jason Terry – ATL

Patrick Davis
06-23-2003, 03:02 PM
Jason Kidd – NJ

Jermaine O’Neal – IND

Elton Brand – LAC

Gary Payton – MIL

Juwan Howard - LAL

Karl Malone - UTA

Alonzo Mourning - MIA

PJ Brown - DAL

Scottie Pippen - CHI

Robert Horry – HOU

Gilbert Arenas - DEN

Michael Olowokandi – DEN

Andre Miller – UTA

Corey Maggette – LAC

Lamar Odom – LAC

Brad Miller – SAS

Rasho Nesterovich – MIN

Rip Hamilton – DET

Jason Terry – ATL

CosmicCowboyXXX
06-23-2003, 03:30 PM
Jason Kidd – NJ

Jermaine O’Neal – SA

Elton Brand – LAC

Gary Payton – MIL

Juwan Howard - DEN

Karl Malone - UTA

Alonzo Mourning - MIA

PJ Brown - DAL

Scottie Pippen - IND

Robert Horry – HOU

Gilbert Arenas - DEN

Michael Olowokandi – DEN

Andre Miller – UTA

Corey Maggette – LAC

Lamar Odom – LAC

Brad Miller – IND

Rasho Nesterovich – MIN

Rip Hamilton – DET

Jason Terry – ATL

baseline bum
06-23-2003, 07:33 PM
Jason Kidd – San Antonio Spurs
Jermaine O’Neal – Indiana Pacers
Elton Brand – Los Angeles Clippers
Gary Payton – Portland TrailBlazers
Juwan Howard - Denver Nuggets
Karl Malone - Los Angeles Lakers
Alonzo Mourning - Dallas Mavericks
PJ Brown - New Orleans Hornets
Scottie Pippen - Portland TrailBlazers
Robert Horry – Los Angeles Lakers
Gilbert Arenas - Denver Nuggets
Michael Olowokandi – Denver Nuggets
Andre Miller – Utah Jazz
Corey Maggette – Utah Jazz
Lamar Odom – Los Angeles Clippers
Brad Miller – Indiana Pacers
Rasho Nesterovich – Minnesota Timberwolves
Rip Hamilton – Detroit Pistons
Jason Terry – Miami Heat

Jimcs50
06-23-2003, 10:15 PM
Jason Kidd – NJ

Kevin Ollie-San Antonio

Jermaine O’Neal – San Antonio

Elton Brand – LAC

Gary Payton – MIL

Juwan Howard - DEN

Karl Malone - UTA

Alonzo Mourning - MIA

PJ Brown - DAL

Scottie Pippen - LAL

Robert Horry – Denver

Gilbert Arenas - GS

Michael Olowokandi – San Antonio

Andre Miller – UTAH

Corey Maggette – San Antonio

Lamar Odom – LAC

Brad Miller – IND

Rasho Nesterovich – MIN

Rip Hamilton – DET

Jason Terry – ATL

DuffMcCartney
06-23-2003, 10:32 PM
Spurs getting O'Neal, Kandi, and Maggette? Now I know you're smoking that pipe Jim.

Jimcs50
06-23-2003, 11:01 PM
O'Neal replaces DRob, Maggette replaces Kerr, and Kandi replaces Ferry. Niiice , huh?...No, I was just covering my bases, if O'Neal does not come on board, then we get the other two as consolation prize.

SpursFanInAustin
06-23-2003, 11:02 PM
Jason Kidd – NJ

Jermaine O’Neal – SA

Elton Brand – LAC

Gary Payton – MIL

Juwan Howard - DEN

Karl Malone - DAL

Alonzo Mourning - MIA

PJ Brown - LAL

Scottie Pippen - POR

Robert Horry – HOU

Gilbert Arenas - DEN

Michael Olowokandi – DEN

Andre Miller – UTAH

Corey Maggette – LAC

Lamar Odom – LAC

Brad Miller – IND

Rasho Nesterovich – MIN

Rip Hamilton – DET

Jason Terry – ATL

Guru of Nothing
06-23-2003, 11:23 PM
Jason Kidd – NJ

Jermaine O’Neal – IND

Elton Brand – SA (Pop CIA is hard at work while I post)

Gary Payton – MIL (S&T to somehwere)

Juwan Howard - LAL

Karl Malone - UTA

Alonzo Mourning - MIA

PJ Brown - NO

Scottie Pippen - LAL

Robert Horry – SA

Gilbert Arenas - DEN

Michael Olowokandi – DEN

Andre Miller – UTAH

Corey Maggette – LAC

Lamar Odom – LAC

Brad Miller – IND

Rasho Nesterovich – MIN

Rip Hamilton – DET

Jason Terry – ATL

SpursFanInAustin
06-23-2003, 11:43 PM
Robert Horry – SA

:vomit

guitarsoup
06-24-2003, 01:09 AM
Jason Kidd – NJ

Jermaine O’Neal – IND

Elton Brand – SA

Gary Payton – mil

Juwan Howard - det

Karl Malone - utah

Alonzo Mourning - POR

PJ Brown - NO

Scottie Pippen - POR

Robert Horry – HOU

Gilbert Arenas - DEN

Michael Olowokandi – DEN

Andre Miller – UTAH

Corey Maggette – SA

Lamar Odom – LAC

Brad Miller – IND

Rasho Nesterovich – MIN

Rip Hamilton – DET

Jason Terry – ATL

Archie
06-24-2003, 02:21 AM
Jason Kidd – NJ

Jermaine O’Neal – SA

Elton Brand – LAC

Gary Payton – POR

Juwan Howard - LAL

Karl Malone - UTA

Alonzo Mourning - DAL

PJ Brown - PHO

Scottie Pippen - POR

Robert Horry – NO

Gilbert Arenas - DEN

Michael Olowokandi – DEN

Andre Miller – UTAH

Corey Maggette – LAC

Lamar Odom – LAC

Brad Miller – IND

Rasho Nesterovic – NYK

Rip Hamilton – DET

IcemanCometh
06-24-2003, 02:24 AM
Jason Kidd – Dallas

Jermaine O’Neal – SA

Elton Brand – LAC (1 year)

Gary Payton – Mil

Juwan Howard - Det

Karl Malone - Utah

Alonzo Mourning - Dallas

PJ Brown - LAL

Scottie Pippen - Por

Robert Horry – who cares

Gilbert Arenas - DEN

Michael Olowokandi – DEN

Andre Miller – Utah

Corey Maggette – SA

Lamar Odom – LAC (1 year)

Brad Miller – IND

Rasho Nesterovich – MIN

Rip Hamilton – DET

Jason Terry – ATL

F7
06-24-2003, 03:11 AM
Jason Kidd – NJN

Jermaine O’Neal – IND

Elton Brand – SAS

Gary Payton – Mil

Juwan Howard - Det

Karl Malone - LAL

Alonzo Mourning - Dallas

PJ Brown - NOH

Scottie Pippen - Por

Robert Horry – SAS

Gilbert Arenas - GSW

Michael Olowokandi – DEN

Andre Miller – Utah

Corey Maggette – LAC

Lamar Odom – LAC

Brad Miller – IND

Rasho Nesterovich – MIN

Rip Hamilton – DET

Jason Terry – ATL

God Almighty
06-24-2003, 03:24 AM
Good stuff. :lol

http://graphics.theonion.com/pics_3734/god_angrily_clarifies.jpg

F7
06-24-2003, 03:29 AM
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/negative18.jpg

Ghost Writer
06-24-2003, 11:39 AM
Jason Kidd – NJ

Jermaine O’Neal – IND

Elton Brand – LAC

Gary Payton – MIL

Juwan Howard - LAL

Karl Malone - UTAH

Alonzo Mourning - MIA

PJ Brown - NO

Scottie Pippen - LAL

Robert Horry – HOU

Gilbert Arenas - DEN

Michael Olowokandi – SA

Andre Miller – UTAH

Corey Maggette – LAC

Lamar Odom – LAC

Brad Miller – IND

Rasho Nesterovich – MIN

Rip Hamilton – DET

Jason Terry – ATL




:cooldevil

Ed Helicopter Jones
06-24-2003, 07:55 PM
This is interesting. I just think it's way too hard to predict.

My hope is that we don't settle for Kandi. The Spurs have stated that if the player they want is not available, they're not going to spend money just to spend it. I have a feeling that Kandi is no longer very high on the Spurs wish list. If he still ends up a Spur I'd be surprised.

My hope is that the Spurs order of pursuit is. . .

1. O'Neal
2. Brand
3. Kidd

If Kidd is signed, I hope that the Spurs trade Parker for a big.

If the Spurs are unable to secure any of those guys I hope they try and sign a veteran or two to one-year deals, and wait until 2004, and re-assess then.

I wouldn't be surprised to see multiple sign-and-trades involving other fairly hot mid-level commodities like Kenny Thomas this summer. Philly has way too many tweeners on their team, and a guy like Thomas is probably their most tradeable commodity.

I think Indiana is going to be forced to move some talent with high-priced guys like O'Neal, Miller and Miller on the roster. I haven't heard that Reggie is retiring. . .how much of a paycut is he going to take? Either O'Neal or the younger, whiter Miller will be gone I think.

I think Karl Malone's ego will keep him from signing with LA. He'd never be happy as the 3rd fiddle in a two-man band. Anyway, he and Andre Miller will make a decent tandem in Utah.

I believe the Clippers will implode this summer, as the Clippers always do, and other teams will raid their young talent. I think Miller will be gone, and probably one or two other players like Maggette, Odom or Kandi. But I'm not sure that even the Clippers would be dumb enough to let Brand go without a fight. I could see him sent off in a trade though, the Clippers like those draft picks you know, and the limited rookie salaries that come with it.

If I'm the Spurs I think I try to get a quick guage on O'Neal and Kidd as soon as they are able. If neither are gung-ho about being a Spur, then they should offer Brand a max-deal. If the Clippers match, then the Spurs should just try to fill holes until next season and Holt until 2004.

The Spurs could offer a 1-year deal that's very substantial to a player like Zoe, or PJ Brown. Even Derrick Coleman proved this year he has something left in the tank. How about platooning the 4 and 5 spots with Tim Duncan, Malik Rose, Kevin Willis, PJ Brown and Derrick Coleman? Not too bad if you ask me. I will guess that something like this is how the Spurs will shape up for the upcoming season.

coz
06-24-2003, 10:19 PM
Jason Kidd – NJ

Jermaine O’Neal – IND

Elton Brand – LAC

Gary Payton – SA

Juwan Howard - DEN

Karl Malone - UTAH

Alonzo Mourning - MIAMI

PJ Brown - LAL

Scottie Pippen - LAL

Robert Horry – HOU

Gilbert Arenas - DEN

Michael Olowokandi – SA

Andre Miller – UTAH

Corey Maggette – LAC

Lamar Odom – LAC

Brad Miller – IND

Rasho Nesterovich – MIN

Rip Hamilton – DET

Jason Terry – ATL

Aggie Hoopsfan
06-24-2003, 10:56 PM
Jason Kidd – NJ

Jermaine O’Neal – SA

Elton Brand – LAC

Gary Payton – Mil

Juwan Howard - Det

Karl Malone - Utah

Alonzo Mourning - Denver

PJ Brown - NO

Scottie Pippen - LAL

Robert Horry – LAL

Gilbert Arenas - DEN

Michael Olowokandi – Miami

Andre Miller – Utah

Corey Maggette – SA

Lamar Odom – LAC

Brad Miller – IND

Rasho Nesterovich – MIN

Rip Hamilton – DET

Jason Terry – ATL


AHF

Walton Buys Off Me
06-24-2003, 11:03 PM
Jason Kidd – NJ

Jermaine O’Neal – SA

Elton Brand – LAC

Gary Payton – CHI

Juwan Howard - UTAH

Karl Malone - DAL

Alonzo Mourning - IND

PJ Brown - LAL

Scottie Pippen - LAL

Robert Horry – HOU

Gilbert Arenas - DEN

Michael Olowokandi – DEN

Andre Miller – UTAH

Corey Maggette – LAC

Lamar Odom – LAC

Brad Miller – IND

Rasho Nesterovich – who gives a ****?

Rip Hamilton – DET

Jason Terry – ATL

baseline bum
06-25-2003, 02:26 AM
Ed, who are you Holting for if Brand is inked to a multi-year deal in LA after the Clipps match our offer sheet? Offer sheet are for 3 years minimum, with no option allowed until the 4th at the earliest. KG, Sheed, and Kobe won't be available for the money the Spurs can have.

Ed Helicopter Jones
06-25-2003, 01:51 PM
BB, I hadn't looked at the Brand situation that way. If what you say is true, going after Brand would definitely back-fire if the Clips matched his offer, and the team's available funds aren't going to be what I had anticipated next year. I figured the Spurs would have the money to pursue a top-tier free agent in '04, but I'm sure you're right if you say they won't.

That kind of changes the urgency in doing it right THIS off-season, doesn't it?!



I'd much sooner have the Spurs get their man this year anyway. I don't think I could handle another year of speculation. The "Kobe to SA?" threads might drive me nuts.

goliath
06-25-2003, 07:01 PM
KIDD = NJ
(only SA and NJ are only legit options. No s&t b/c NJ has no incentive to do it unless they really think Kidd will take the MCE from Dall or others, which he wont. SA says no so hes left with NJ)

ONEIL = SA
(just have a feeling. Ive had a feeling ever since his interview on Ksat during the WC last summer)

BRAND = LAC
(1 yr qualifying offer and then freedom this time next year. However I could see the Spurs working out a sign and trade, say Scola, picks and cash, to get him if we dont get JO. That way Sterling can save face by getting something in return and not having to worry about matching)

PAYTON = MIL
($$$ in Mil or MCE anywhere else thats good. $$$ wins out)

HOWARD = CHI

MALONE = UTAH
(talks about winning a ring but really wants to break Kareem's scoring record. No other winner will offer him enough shots to do so, so he claims loyalty and stays with the Jazz)

Morning = DAL
(when push comes to shove noone else will put up the money with his health issues. Well noone but Cuban)

BROWN = LAL

HORRY = SA

ARENAS = DENVER

KANDI = DENVER

A MILLER = UTAH

ODOM = LAC

MILLER = IND

HAMILTON = DET

TERRY = ATL

scott
06-27-2003, 11:40 AM
Don't forget you can edit your picks up until June 1

Ken Kesey
06-28-2003, 04:45 AM
Jason Kidd – NJ

Jermaine O’Neal – IND

Elton Brand – LAC

Gary Payton – MIL

Juwan Howard - DEN

Karl Malone - UTAH

Alonzo Mourning - SA

PJ Brown - LAL

Scottie Pippen - LAL

Robert Horry – SA

Gilbert Arenas - DEN

Michael Olowokandi – DEN

Andre Miller – UTAH

Corey Maggette – LAC

Lamar Odom – LAC

Brad Miller – IND

Rasho Nesterovich – MIN

Rip Hamilton – DET

Jason Terry – ATL

TheFlo2
06-28-2003, 05:22 AM
Jason Kidd – NJ

Jermaine O’Neal – IND

Elton Brand – SA

Gary Payton – MIL

Juwan Howard - CHI

Karl Malone - UTAH

Alonzo Mourning - LAL

PJ Brown - DAL

Scottie Pippen - LAL

Robert Horry – HOU

Gilbert Arenas - LAC

Michael Olowokandi – DEN

Andre Miller – UTAH

Corey Maggette – LAC

Lamar Odom – LAC

Brad Miller – IND

Rasho Nesterovich – MIN

Rip Hamilton – DET

Jason Terry – ATL