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pgardn
11-16-2022, 02:34 PM
If NATO says it, it's legit, tbh... :tu

When it really matters, hater backs up and goes hypocrite.

velik_m
11-16-2022, 03:02 PM
Russia’s GDP down 4% in Q3 2022 — statistics

MOSCOW, November 16. /TASS/. According to the preliminary estimate, Russia’s GDP moved down by 4% year-on-year in the third quarter of 2022, the Russian Federal State Statistics Service (Rosstat) said on Wednesday.

The national statistics service earlier confirmed that domestic GDP lost 4.1% annually in the second quarter of this year.

The wholesale trade turnover lost 22.6%. Water supplies, drainage, waste gathering and disposal management and pollution response fell by 10.4%. The retail trade turnover edged down by 9.1%. The freight turnover tumbled 5.5%. Processing industries dropped by 2%. At the same time, the construction segment gained 6.7% and the agricultural sector had an upsurge by 6.2%.



https://tass.com/economy/1537835

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 03:54 PM
you didnt make a point. you whined about my career, called me names, etc.

the closest thing of a point you made was that transhpobia is the fear of trans people OR the dislike of trans people. jury is out on whether you fear them (though i havent made that claim), but its very clear you dislike them based on the way you post about trans people on this forum, or about how you ask about my hypothetical transition as though its an insult. if you liked trans people, that wouldnt be an insult, but you use it as one.

knowing trans people doesnt change that any more than a racist dude saying he has black friends

LMAO You posted a screenshot of a definition that claims I would "dislike" trans and I stated the opposite previously. So what am I not getting again?

You want to call me names but whine when I do the same to you? You label me this or that but you clearly have no clue and want to pin a label on me so your fuckface efriends will celebrate how much of a whiny bitch you truly are.

Let me make this clear as day for your dumbass. I don't fear nor dislike trans people. I treat them exactly how I treat everyone else. If you're cool we're cool. I don't go out of my way to hate a specific group of people other than you progressive scumbags.

You're a fucking loser bro with a loser mentality looking to play the victim time and time again. Boohoo don't call me names, don't wish death on my fuckface efriends, stop with your unprovoked responses I see as anger through my shit colored glasses, et al.

And what exactly have I said about trans here that's bad? I rarely ever bring them up if at all.

Btw, what's your pronouns buddy? Dumb/Ass?

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 04:01 PM
Yo spurraider21 what do you have against the lgbt+ community?

SR21 "Old Faggot Fagging Up Another Forum"
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256866

Care to explain?

Took me 1 second to find that derogatory thread of yours bud. I wonder what else I could find in the archive...

Virtue signal harder you stupid fuck! :tu

spurraider21
11-16-2022, 04:08 PM
Yo spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) what do you have against the lgbt+ community?

SR21 "Old Faggot Fagging Up Another Forum"
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256866

Care to explain?

Took me 1 second to find that derogatory thread of yours bud. I wonder what else I could find in the archive...

Virtue signal harder you stupid fuck! :tu
im also the one who started the trans bathroom thread

ive become much less of a shithead than i used to be. if i go back far enough, i was a full on libertarian/conservative shithead tbh. grim business.

though "lol old faggot" was a forum-wide insult/nickname given to avante at the time

spurraider21
11-16-2022, 04:09 PM
LMAO You posted a screenshot of a definition that claims I would "dislike" trans and I stated the opposite previously. So what am I not getting again?

You want to call me names but whine when I do the same to you? You label me this or that but you clearly have no clue and want to pin a label on me so your fuckface efriends will celebrate how much of a whiny bitch you truly are.

Let me make this clear as day for your dumbass. I don't fear nor dislike trans people. I treat them exactly how I treat everyone else. If you're cool we're cool. I don't go out of my way to hate a specific group of people other than you progressive scumbags.

You're a fucking loser bro with a loser mentality looking to play the victim time and time again. Boohoo don't call me names, don't wish death on my fuckface efriends, stop with your unprovoked responses I see as anger through my shit colored glasses, et al.

And what exactly have I said about trans here that's bad? I rarely ever bring them up if at all.

Btw, what's your pronouns buddy? Dumb/Ass?
you dont even acknowledge that transgenderism is a legitimate thing. all your comments about it on this sub are "men are men and women are women period, etc" or "if you have a dick you are a man, end of story" etc... leaves no room for trans people being valid.

if you agree with those quoted segments, then how could you possibly reconcile that with a bioligical female who identifies as a man. its completely contradictory. if you dont think that trans people are legitimate in that way, then that just makes my case

ChumpDumper
11-16-2022, 04:15 PM
And what exactly have I said about trans here that's bad? I rarely ever bring them up if at all.~80 posts with "trans" in them from you.

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 04:18 PM
im also the one who started the trans bathroom thread

ive become much less of a shithead than i used to be. if i go back far enough, i was a full on libertarian/conservative shithead tbh. grim business.

though "lol old faggot" was a forum-wide insult/nickname given to avante at the time

Fuck your excuses you bitchass motherfucker! :lol

Again, why do you hate the lgbt+ community bro? What did they do to you?


you dont even acknowledge that transgenderism is a legitimate thing. all your comments about it on this sub are "men are men and women are women period, etc" or "if you have a dick you are a man, end of story" etc... leaves no room for trans people being valid.

if you agree with those quoted segments, then how could you possibly reconcile that with a bioligical female who identifies as a man. its completely contradictory. if you dont think that trans people are legitimate in that way, then that just makes my case

Yeah it's clear I believe in biology; you know real science! I also believe there's people who don't feel like their "real" self but that doesn't mean biology is a thing of the past. I can believe in both at the same time.

When someone is schizo and claims to be a tree frog do you jump on the lily pads with them?

Fuck out of here you dumbfuck.

spurraider21
11-16-2022, 04:22 PM
Fuck your excuses you bitchass motherfucker! :lol

Again, why do you hate the lgbt+ community bro? What did they do to you?
i dont have excuses for the shitty things ive said tbh. they were shitty things



Yeah it's clear I believe in biology; you know real science! I also believe there's people who don't feel like their "real" self but that doesn't mean biology is a thing of the past. I can believe in both at the same time.

When someone is schizo and claims to be a tree frog do you jump on the lily pads with them?

Fuck out of here you dumbfuck.
i believe in biology too. females are those who have ovaries, give birth. males have sperm, dont give birth, etc.

nobody who is transgender believes differently. a biological male who is transgender and identifies as a woman doesnt suddenly believe that they have ovaries and can give birth.

gender is one's self of identity, not their biological sex. again, if you dont think transgenderism is a valid thing and liken it to a person believing they are a frog, then its amazing to me that you cant recognize that you are being transphobic

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 04:23 PM
im also the one who started the trans bathroom thread

You're the only one patting yourself on the back for that virtue signaling thread of yours. No one cares after all your insulting lgbt+ threads and posts. :tu


though "lol old faggot" was a forum-wide insult/nickname given to avante at the time

Would you jump off a bridge if your friends told you to? :lmao

You're such a fucking drone npc it's hilarious!



if i go back far enough, i was a full on libertarian/conservative shithead tbh. grim business.

LMAO at your shit edit excuse. "I was a Libertarian/Conservative so of course I was a shithead but now that I am progressive scum I am way worse of a shithead tbh."

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 04:26 PM
i dont have excuses for the shitty things ive said tbh. they were shitty things

You're a shitty person. That's all there is to it. Keep casting them stones in your shattered glass house you shit lawyer.


nobody who is transgender believes differently. a biological male who is transgender and identifies as a woman doesnt suddenly believe that they have ovaries and can give birth.

Tell that to that dude in Canada who requested a pap-smear, or the MSM who claims men can have babies, etc...


gender is one's self of identity, not their biological sex. again, if you dont think transgenderism is a valid thing and liken it to a person believing they are a frog, then its amazing to me that you cant recognize that you are being transphobic

Spare me your nonsense and cry me a river. :cry

ElNono
11-16-2022, 04:27 PM
Russia’s GDP down 4% in Q3 2022 — statistics
https://tass.com/economy/1537835

C'est la vie

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 04:28 PM
CumDumpster, when are you finally going to get the hint that IDGAF what you have to say? You're such a fucking dumbass loser bro.

ElNono
11-16-2022, 04:28 PM
Biden Asks for Over $37 Billion in Emergency Ukraine Aid

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden is asking Congress to provide more than $37 billion in emergency aid to Ukraine, a massive infusion of cash that could help support the nation as Russian forces suffer battlefield losses in their nine-month-old invasion.

The administration's funding request, which comes as lawmakers begin their post-election session, also seeks $9.25 billion in COVID-19 funding to prepare for a possible winter surge and help combat the virus nationwide. Government funding expires in mid-December, and the Ukraine and COVID aid would be part of the package to fund the government through the end of September 2023.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-11-15/biden-asks-for-more-than-37-billion-in-ukraine-aid

Whatever it takes :tu

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 04:30 PM
Biden Asks for Over $37 Billion in Emergency Ukraine Aid

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden is asking Congress to provide more than $37 billion in emergency aid to Ukraine, a massive infusion of cash that could help support the nation as Russian forces suffer battlefield losses in their nine-month-old invasion.

The administration's funding request, which comes as lawmakers begin their post-election session, also seeks $9.25 billion in COVID-19 funding to prepare for a possible winter surge and help combat the virus nationwide. Government funding expires in mid-December, and the Ukraine and COVID aid would be part of the package to fund the government through the end of September 2023.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-11-15/biden-asks-for-more-than-37-billion-in-ukraine-aid

Whatever it takes :tu

Fuck that! That $ is better spent here on our infrastructure, community programs, our homeless, etc... Fuck Ukraine! And fuck Biden's slush fund!

ElNono
11-16-2022, 04:30 PM
Fuck that! That $ is better spent here on our infrastructure, community programs, our homeless, etc... Fuck Ukraine! And fuck Biden's slush fund!

Brandon already passed his infrastructure bill... Brandon

spurraider21
11-16-2022, 04:32 PM
You're the only one patting yourself on the back for that virtue signaling thread of yours. No one cares after all your insulting lgbt+ threads and posts. :tu
im not patting myself on the back at all for that thread, exactly the opposite :lmao... that was a thread where i was expressing concern with trans women using the women's restroom, calling out "resident sjws"

its another example of something i dont stand by today. so no, it wasn't a "virtue signaling thread" nor am i patting myself on the back for it. just the opposite.


Would you jump off a bridge if your friends told you to? :lmao

You're such a fucking drone npc it's hilarious!
no. i was just adding a small amount of context even though i already owned that what i said was bad.


LMAO at your shit edit excuse. "I was a Libertarian/Conservative so of course I was a shithead but now that I am progressive scum I am way worse of a shithead tbh."
its not an excuse. my political views have changed over time. i used be be much more conservative. so i'm sure that you can go back and find dumb conservative shit i used to say.

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 04:33 PM
Brandon already passed his infrastructure bill... Brandon

Yeah sure bro... Build Back Better is the worst slogan ever but seeing how it's the WEF's slogan and the slogan of Marxism nothing has been built back nor better. The left likes to make big promises they never ever deliver on and don't have to because they can dupe so many of you lefties easily and they know it.

Such a sad state of affairs.

spurraider21
11-16-2022, 04:35 PM
You're a shitty person. That's all there is to it. Keep casting them stones in your shattered glass house you shit lawyer.
nothing of substance to address here


Tell that to that dude in Canada who requested a pap-smear, or the MSM who claims men can have babies, etc...
dont know what you are referring to with either of these. but would you agree that a biological female (who has ovaries, eggs, etc) that identifies as a man can have babies?


Spare me your nonsense and cry me a river. :cry
wouldnt expect you to address that one, since it very plainly demonstrates that you are transphobic :lol

:cry im not trasnphobic, i just think its the same thing as a person believing they are a frog :cry

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 04:35 PM
its not an excuse. my political views have changed over time. i used be be much more conservative. so i'm sure that you can go back and find dumb conservative shit i used to say.

None of what you said was "conservative shit" but you would sure love to pin it on Conservatives so you look better in the end. Truth be told, you said what you said in black and white so own it you fucking HOMOPHOBE!

ElNono
11-16-2022, 04:35 PM
Yeah sure bro... Build Back Better is the worst slogan ever but seeing how it's the WEF's slogan and the slogan of Marxism nothing has been built back nor better. The left likes to make big promises they never ever deliver on and don't have to because they can dupe so many of you lefties easily and they know it.

Such a sad state of affairs.

You get two cookies for dropping Marxism in there, tbh

spurraider21
11-16-2022, 04:36 PM
None of what you said was "conservative shit" but you would sure love to pin it on Conservatives so you look better in the end. Truth be told, you said what you said in black and white so own it you fucking HOMOPHOBE!
i would say that being homophobic and transphobic are definitely conservative traits

i will own that i made homophobic comments and probably held homophobic views in the past

hater
11-16-2022, 04:37 PM
i dont have excuses for the shitty things ive said tbh. they were shitty things



i believe in biology too. females are those who have ovaries, give birth. males have sperm, dont give birth, etc.

nobody who is transgender believes differently. a biological male who is transgender and identifies as a woman doesnt suddenly believe that they have ovaries and can give birth.



If u posted this on public twatter and if u were somebody your ass would be grass :lol canceled

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 04:38 PM
wouldnt expect you to address that one, since it very plainly demonstrates that you are transphobic :lol

I learned biology as everyone else and I'm not going to play into peoples delusions just like I wouldn't hype up a schizo. If I know you and respect you I'll call you whatever you'd like but that doesn't mean I throw biology out the window to appease less than 1% of the population. I also don't sit here telling my trans friends that they are this or that because it doesn't matter as long as we're cool and respect each other; their biz is none of my biz.

Tell us more HOMOPHOBE SR21... :lol

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 04:42 PM
i would say that being homophobic and transphobic are definitely conservative traits

i will own that i made homophobic comments and probably held homophobic views in the past

Playing by your progressive rules so your past is your present and future; you're a HOMOPHOBE SR21.

Homophobia isn't a trait of Conservatism but it is a trait of shitty people who come from all walks of life and all political parties. You happen to be one of those shitty homophobic people. You have no redeeming qualities tbh. You're a liar, a loser, and a pos virtue signaling reject npc.

spurraider21
11-16-2022, 04:42 PM
I learned biology as everyone else and I'm not going to play into peoples delusions just like I wouldn't hype up a schizo. If I know you and respect you I'll call you whatever you'd like but that doesn't mean I throw biology out the window to appease less than 1% of the population. I also don't sit here telling my trans friends that they are this or that because it doesn't matter as long as we're cool and respect each other; their biz is none of my biz.

Tell us more HOMOPHOBE SR21... :lol
nobody is asking you to throw out biology

somebody who is born female but identifies as a man doesnt expect you to believe that they have sperm and can impregnate females. so, just like me, you can fully believe in the biology that the person in question has eggs/ovaries and can get pregnant :tu

that's separate from their sense of identity (aka not their biology)

ChumpDumper
11-16-2022, 04:43 PM
CumDumpster, when are you finally going to get the hint that IDGAF what you have to say? You're such a fucking dumbass loser bro.Wasn't really talking to you.:tu

spurraider21
11-16-2022, 04:44 PM
Playing by your progressive rules so your past is your present and future; you're a HOMOPHOBE SR21.
care to explain how this is a progressive rule?


Homophobia isn't a trait of Conservatism but it is a trait of shitty people who come from all walks of life and all political parties. You happen to be one of those shitty homophobic people. You have no redeeming qualities tbh. You're a liar, a loser, and a pos virtue signaling reject npc.
strong disagree

which political ideology was the one most recently against gay marriage? and has pockets still against it. liberalism or conservatism? easy answer.

which political ideology was the first to embrace gay marriage? easy answer

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 04:45 PM
Stop whining about what I say here SR21 and kick rocks. You want to ruin this thread with your dumbfuckery? I can do this all day and sift through the archives for more of your shitty posts but I'm out of fucks to give when it comes to your excuses.

spurraider21
11-16-2022, 04:46 PM
would you agree that a biological female (who has ovaries, eggs, etc) that identifies as a man can have babies? koriwhat scared to touch this one :lol

ChumpDumper
11-16-2022, 04:47 PM
:yieldStop whining about what I say here SR21 and kick rocks. You want to ruin this thread with your dumbfuckery? I can do this all day and sift through the archives for more of your shitty posts but I'm out of fucks to give when it comes to your excuses.:yield

spurraider21
11-16-2022, 04:47 PM
Stop whining about what I say here SR21 and kick rocks. You want to ruin this thread with your dumbfuckery? I can do this all day and sift through the archives for more of your shitty posts but I'm out of fucks to give when it comes to your excuses.
im sure that if you keep searching you can find plenty of homophobic/transphobic shit coming from me. i will own all of them as bad things that i've said and i'm very glad that ive grown past those shitty views :tu

velik_m
11-16-2022, 04:50 PM
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koriwhat
11-16-2022, 04:53 PM
care to explain how this is a progressive rule?

Tell that to all those who have been exiled for tweets a decade ago...


which political ideology was the one most recently against gay marriage?

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which political ideology was the first to embrace gay marriage? easy answer

? Many were proponents of it. I assume you meant, "which party in power at the time codified into law same sex marriage?"

Now ask yourself, who's the first president to come into office pro lgbt+? Here's a hint, it wasn't Obummer. easy answer

spurraider21
11-16-2022, 04:58 PM
Tell that to all those who have been exiled for tweets a decade ago...
usually as long as people own them and disavow the comments they get past it. james gunn comes to mind. otoh, kevin hart stepped down from the oscars gig because he refused to make a public apology. do you want me to issue a formal apology to spurstalk for my past homophobic/trasnphobic comments? will that make your feelies better?


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broken link



Many were proponents of it. I assume you meant, "which party in power at the time codified into law same sex marriage?"
no, thats not what i meant. i meant which political group was the one most recently against gay marriage. it would be the conservatives of the world. the ben shapiros, etc. i can name plenty of conservatives in office right now who are against gay marriage. cant name any liberal ones, though


Now ask yourself, who's the first president to come into office pro lgbt+? Here's a hint, it wasn't Obummer. easy answer
yeah thats a different question, though the answer would be joe biden.

it is true that donald trump is the first president to come into office who was publicly supportive of gay marriage rights. i would certainly not call him "pro lgbt+" because he certainly was not pro trans (the "t" in lgbt) by any stretch. and the only actual actions he took in office toward gay people were negative ones (his administration tried to allow adoption agencies to deny gay couples on the grounds that they are gay, etc)

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 04:59 PM
would you agree that a biological female (who has ovaries, eggs, etc) that identifies as a man can have babies?


koriwhat scared to touch this one :lol

A biological female is a female. So no, a man can't have babies. A female who transitions is still a female no matter how blue in the face you get trying to tell me otherwise. Again, I respect others and if they show me that same respect I will call them whatever they'd like but I will not throw biology out the window to appease less than 1% of our population. Do whatever the fuck you want in life but that doesn't mean I have to agree or participate and it also doesn't mean that I will down those who think differently as long as we're respectful to each other.

You, like so many other progressive idiots, want me to bend the knee. I don't care to you fucking homophobe.

spurraider21
11-16-2022, 05:02 PM
A biological female is a female. So no, a man can't have babies. A female who transitions is still a female no matter how blue in the face you get trying to tell me otherwise. Again, I respect others and if they show me that same respect I will call them whatever they'd like but I will not throw biology out the window to appease less than 1% of our population. Do whatever the fuck you want in life but that doesn't mean I have to agree or participate and it also doesn't mean that I will down those who think differently as long as we're respectful to each other.

You, like so many other progressive idiots, want me to bend the knee. I don't care to you fucking homophobe.
:lmao refusing to answer the question

would you agree that a biological female (who has ovaries, eggs, etc) that identifies as a man can have babies?

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 05:09 PM
:lmao refusing to answer the question

would you agree that a biological female (who has ovaries, eggs, etc) that identifies as a man can have babies?

Sure a female can have babies even if she identifies as a tree frog. Biology is biology. Both sexes will never know what it's like to be the opposite sex no matter what they call themselves. I will never know the real plight of a woman just like a woman will never know the real plight of a man. Out of respect though, I will call you whatever you'd like if we're cool with each other. Doesn't make a difference in the end whether or not I bend the knee which I won't.

I don't need others to affirm who I am and thus I don't have to do the same in return. That's the beauty of a free and open society like we have here in the USA.

The trans I know are mainly f2m and not once have I been like, "You're a chick, right?", because it doesn't matter though I could tell 10 times out of 10 just on voice, mannerisms, etc. This is exactly why I said you probably know no trans people at all and it's becoming obvious I am right.

hater
11-16-2022, 05:16 PM
Tell that to all those who have been exiled for tweets a decade ago...



N6K9dS9wl7U



? Many were proponents of it. I assume you meant, "which party in power at the time codified into law same sex marriage?"

Now ask yourself, who's the first president to come into office pro lgbt+? Here's a hint, it wasn't Obummer. easy answer

:lmao

S21 getting uppercutted to the neck :lmao

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 05:18 PM
:lmao

S21 getting uppercutted to the neck :lmao

I like the 1-1-2-3 combo myself. Always lead with a couple jabs because they're more effective from a distance unlike an uppercut. :tu

ElNono
11-16-2022, 05:19 PM
:lmao

S21 getting uppercutted to the neck :lmao

:lmao reduced to being a hype man
:lmao been practicing with Putler

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 05:19 PM
You get two cookies for dropping Marxism in there, tbh

Damn you Nono, how can I not like you? You crack me up bud. :tu

spurraider21
11-16-2022, 05:28 PM
Sure a female can have babies even if she identifies as a tree frog.
great to hear that you agree with the sjw msm that trans men can have babies

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 06:16 PM
great to hear that you agree with the sjw msm that trans men can have babies

If they were biological men(real men in every sense of the word) they wouldn't need to prefix it with trans. :tu

spurraider21
11-16-2022, 06:18 PM
If they were biological men(real men in every sense of the word) they wouldn't need to prefix it with trans. :tu
they arent claiming to be "biological men"

:tu you agree with msm that trans men can have babies

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 06:39 PM
they arent claiming to be "biological men"

:tu you agree with msm that trans men can have babies

Yeah they're biological women so sure.

And yes the ones in the MSM/Social Networks are claiming to be "biological men" and or "biological women". I've seen numerous videos claiming as such.

spurraider21
11-16-2022, 06:48 PM
Yeah they're biological women so sure.

And yes the ones in the MSM/Social Networks are claiming to be "biological men" and or "biological women". I've seen numerous videos claiming as such.
:lol no. show me one video where MSM claims that a biological male who transitions becomes a biological female capable of giving birth

what you probably actually saw was a video where some guy like Matt Walsh claimed that thats what the left believes

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 07:06 PM
:lol no. show me one video where MSM claims that a biological male who transitions becomes a biological female capable of giving birth

what you probably actually saw was a video where some guy like Matt Walsh claimed that thats what the left believes

LMAO Assumptions like always but bro you're already an ass so you don't need to assume things.

Thomas Beatie says hello! First pregnant MAN huh? Trans man or Man? Which is it? that "dude" was propped up by all of the MSM back in 2008 or so. You're telling me they weren't trying to convince the masses that Men can have babies? Sure bud.

Btw Matt Walsh is who he is but his little docu did expose some in their own words.

hater
11-16-2022, 07:07 PM
:lmao reduced to being a hype man
:lmao been practicing with Putler

Hows your missile investigation going, ma Ms13 nig?


:lmao

You a regular missile sleuth :lmao

spurraider21
11-16-2022, 07:09 PM
Thomas Beatie says hello! First pregnant MAN huh? Trans man or Man? Which is it? that "dude" was propped up by all of the MSM back in 2008 or so. You're telling me they weren't trying to convince the masses that Men can have babies? Sure bud.
thomas beatie is a biological female who became pregnant.

your claim was that MSM said biological males who transition can become pregnant

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 07:34 PM
thomas beatie is a biological female who became pregnant.

your claim was that MSM said biological males who transition can become pregnant

Nah my claim is progressives use word games and they think they can trick the masses into believing them which most do unfortunately. It's your stance that this entity or that aren't claiming "biological" shit.

You skirt around everything because you're in the cult bro and you know it. At the end of the day IDGAF either way and I'm going to continue to be who I am regardless of your many tears and hissy fits. :tu

ChumpDumper
11-16-2022, 07:37 PM
Nah my claim is progressives use word games and they think they can trick the masses into believing them which most do unfortunately. It's your stance that this entity or that aren't claiming "biological" shit.

You skirt around everything because you're in the cult bro and you know it. At the end of the day IDGAF either way and I'm going to continue to be who I am regardless of your many tears and hissy fits. :tu:lol so angry and dishonest

spurraider21
11-16-2022, 07:48 PM
Nah my claim is progressives use word games and they think they can trick the masses into believing them which most do unfortunately. It's your stance that this entity or that aren't claiming "biological" shit.

You skirt around everything because you're in the cult bro and you know it. At the end of the day IDGAF either way and I'm going to continue to be who I am regardless of your many tears and hissy fits. :tu
ok, so the MSM isn't claiming that biological males who are trans women can become pregnant. good to know that they follow the science :tu

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 07:48 PM
^
CumDumpster is that psycho ex you wish an overdose on. Take all those meds you fucking loon!

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 07:48 PM
ok, so the MSM isn't claiming that biological males who are trans women can become pregnant. good to know that they follow the science :tu

Play coy all you'd like Homophobe. :tu

ChumpDumper
11-16-2022, 07:50 PM
^
CumDumpster is that psycho ex you wish an overdose on. Take all those meds you fucking loon!You're on drugs right now.:tu

spurraider21
11-16-2022, 08:05 PM
^
CumDumpster is that psycho ex you wish an overdose on. Take all those meds you fucking loon!
lol wishing death on somebody because you are off your meds

koriwhat
11-16-2022, 08:39 PM
lol wishing death on somebody because you are off your meds

Nah I just wish you weak sobs would rid us all of yalls worthless existence. :tu

Bro I never needed meds. You act like you know me personally and especially 20 yrs ago. :lmao

Go fuck yourself you HOMOPHOBIC retard! :lol

spurraider21
11-16-2022, 09:12 PM
you HOMOPHOBIC retard! :lol

https://media.tenor.com/TJLxAZiTdHwAAAAM/awkward-umm-what.gif


Not being a weak fucking pushover cuckold like yourself you stupid fucking fag. :tu


Oh not not your cliche bullshit again... lol you fucking fag.


I didn't need to name you either. You already know you're one of those faggots.

hater
11-16-2022, 09:19 PM
with this latest stunt... people are waking up...


beautiful to see :tu

https://twitter.com/CaliCoastReplay/status/1593011151906181120

hater
11-16-2022, 09:19 PM
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1593057064791965702

hater
11-16-2022, 09:21 PM
:lmao people are waking up :tu

https://twitter.com/Napoleonismo/status/1592803851085975552

ElNono
11-16-2022, 09:22 PM
Hows your missile investigation going, ma Ms13 nig?

:lmao

You a regular missile sleuth :lmao

NATO did it for me, once and correctly, so I don't end up backpedaling and looking like a clown like you do here :lmao

But don't let me stop you from semen-shielding kw :lmao

Ef-man
11-16-2022, 09:23 PM
Ruh Roh Raggy

https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1592584393113362433

ElNono
11-16-2022, 09:24 PM
with this latest stunt... people are waking up...

beautiful to see :tu

https://twitter.com/CaliCoastReplay/status/1593011151906181120

People are waking up to what? :lol

Nobody is siding with Putler. Forever alone :lmao

Ef-man
11-16-2022, 09:28 PM
https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1592581866212986880

hater
11-16-2022, 09:29 PM
:lmao :lol :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lol
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lol :lmao :lmao
:lmao :lmao :lol :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
:lol :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lol :lmao



ma niga Helensky :lmao

never met a line he didn't take :lmao

https://twitter.com/MocniSasa/status/1592104834286632961


our best customer :tu

hater
11-16-2022, 09:30 PM
NATO did it for me, once and correctly, so I don't end up backpedaling and looking like a clown like you do here :lmao

But don't let me stop you from semen-shielding kw :lmao

:lmao your investigation reported Russia fired that missile from Belarus :lmao

:lmao

a regular missle sleuth :lmao

ElNono
11-16-2022, 09:33 PM
:lmao your investigation reported Russia fired that missile from Belarus :lmao

:lmao

a regular missle sleuth :lmao

Fake news :lmao

Link it. I said that because it wasn't fired FROM Russia it didn't mean it wasn't fired BY Russia.

That's it.

Now, let's watch you contort and ultimately fold :lmao

pgardn
11-16-2022, 09:33 PM
Hater quoting Tucker Carlson (who cannot possibly insist anyone is a liar but himself)

After NATO and Biden have stated it looks like a Ukrainian defensive strike NOTHING has been said.
Except why Russian missiles are entering POLISH airspace.
Russia is playing a very dangerous game with NATO WHILE they are being driven out of Ukraine.

Do you understand yet heater?

pgardn
11-16-2022, 09:35 PM
Fake news :lmao

Link it. I said that because it wasn't fired FROM Russia it didn't mean it wasn't fired BY Russia.

That's it.

Now, let's watch you contort and ultimately fold :lmao

Hater continuing with Putin/Carlsen worship of the lie.

ElNono
11-16-2022, 09:35 PM
ma niga Helensky :lmao

never met a line he didn't take :lmao

https://twitter.com/MocniSasa/status/1592104834286632961


our best customer :tu

:lmao Putler's daddy

hater
11-16-2022, 09:37 PM
Fake news :lmao

Link it. I said that because it wasn't fired FROM Russia it didn't mean it wasn't fired BY Russia.

That's it.

Now, let's watch you contort and ultimately fold :lmao

:lmao you said

"they ran out of good missiles" "time for a no fly zone"

:lmao Salvadorian missle investigation team :lmao


:lol


a regular missile sleuth :lmao

ElNono
11-16-2022, 09:47 PM
:lmao you said

"they ran out of good missiles" "time for a no fly zone"

All true, nothing to do with your claim:

"your investigation reported Russia fired that missile from Belarus"


:lmao Salvadorian missle investigation team :lmao

:lol

a regular missile sleuth :lmao

Stop spinning and link it... :lmao

Or fold, like you're supposed to :lmao

ElNono
11-16-2022, 09:48 PM
Did P:lolp:lol lost the link, what happened? :lmao

pgardn
11-16-2022, 09:53 PM
https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1592581866212986880

There are reports that a whole lot of Russians are dying in the South.
There are a shit ton of intercepted Russian cell phone conversations that are flat out sad.

Putler is executing his own people via Ukraine. Getting very Stalinesque.

Ef-man
11-16-2022, 10:51 PM
There are reports that a whole lot of Russians are dying in the South.
There are a shit ton of intercepted Russian cell phone conversations that are flat out sad.

Putler is executing his own people via Ukraine. Getting very Stalinesque.

Yup, poorly trained russian conscripts are being slaughtered.

hater
11-17-2022, 12:01 AM
All true, nothing to do with your claim:

"your investigation reported Russia fired that missile from Belarus"



Stop spinning and link it... :lmao

Or fold, like you're supposed to :lmao

Says "we should put a no fly zone"

Then says "I never said Russia fired it"


:lmao todays missile investigative teams from San Salvador


:lmao


Regular missile sleuths :lmao

Ef-man
11-17-2022, 12:03 AM
https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/1592944431836975104

koriwhat
11-17-2022, 12:43 AM
https://media.tenor.com/TJLxAZiTdHwAAAAM/awkward-umm-what.gif

I know what I wrote here a long time ago... I'm not the one throwing stones bro and instead just showing you a mirror. How hard is that for you to grasp? You sling shit hoping it sticks and then you run with it as if it's factual. I don't honestly think you're a homophobe because you've said or wrote fag here or irl. Jesus bro grow the fuck up already!

Joseph Kony
11-17-2022, 12:48 AM
"i know i'm a massive hypocrite that constantly contradicts himself and does exactly what i cry about everyone else doing here daily"


:lmao

koriwhat
11-17-2022, 12:56 AM
^ Let me guess, this pussy JK has something clever to say?

Joseph Kony
11-17-2022, 01:00 AM
^ Let me guess, this pussy JK has something clever to say?

"i only read quotes" :lmao


No one believes that :lol you bring me up randomly in threads for no reason all the time. rent free :lmao

ElNono
11-17-2022, 02:04 AM
Says "we should put a no fly zone"

Then says "I never said Russia fired it"

Exactly.

Where did I said Russia fired it or "your investigation reported Russia fired that missile from Belarus"? Link please.

:lmao caught making shit up again

ElNono
11-17-2022, 02:07 AM
Actual quotes...


They're probably still using dumb missiles to bomb shit, since they ran out of anything precision-guided, and they fucked up.
We'll see how this develops.


Time to impost a no-fly zone on the western side of Ukraine, so there are no more "mistakes", "misunderstandings" or "false flags", tbh


That it is unlikely it was fired FROM Russia doesn't mean it wasn't fired BY Russia...

If it was fired from Belarus, Lukashenko is going to get Milosevic'ed, IMO


If NATO says it, it's legit, tbh... :tu

:lmao stop gargling Putler's balls and learn to read

hater
11-17-2022, 08:25 AM
:lmao holy sheet


https://twitter.com/SugarShindigs/status/1592696751848583168

hater
11-17-2022, 08:28 AM
:lmao Fucking cringe

:lmao

https://twitter.com/DiaboGeopolitic/status/1593092961604358145

Ef-man
11-17-2022, 08:42 AM
All the winning.

Russia's economy has finally fallen into recession, 8 months after it invaded Ukraine.

Eight months after it attacked Ukraine, Russia's economy has finally fallen into a recession, according to official data from Moscow released Wednesday.

Its GDP fell by 4% in the third quarter of the year from a year ago, according to Rosstat, Russia's statistics agency. This followed a 4.1% year-on-year decline in its second-quarter GDP — meaning the country has fallen into a technical recession after two straight quarterly contractions.

Though the textbook definition isn't necessarily indicative of a serious downturn — Russia's third-quarter GDP slide was in milder than the 7% decline it had expected earlier — Elvira Nabiullina, the country's top central banker, said Tuesday the country needs to look at the economic situation "very soberly with open eyes" and be prepared for any development, according to news agency Interfax.

businessinsider.com/russia-gdp-economy-recession-8-months-after-ukraine-invasion-putin (https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-gdp-economy-recession-8-months-after-ukraine-invasion-putin-2022-11)

Extra Stout
11-17-2022, 10:11 AM
The failed attempt to reconquer Ukraine will result in the internal collapse of Russia. It will be some time before borders get redrawn, but Moscow will lose control over the regions. The FSB no longer will be enough to hold it all together.

hater
11-17-2022, 10:29 AM
:lmao every single time :lol

https://twitter.com/WaitingOnBiden/status/1592307868858212352

hater
11-17-2022, 10:32 AM
:lmao

https://twitter.com/kurtulus_topcu/status/1593258846956376064

velik_m
11-17-2022, 10:43 AM
1593167950852550661

pgardn
11-17-2022, 11:05 AM
:lmao every single time :lol

https://twitter.com/WaitingOnBiden/status/1592307868858212352

Now go get the Satanic idols being worn by Ukrainian farm animals.

Its not the Nazis now, keep up with the latest bizarre scapegoating.

hater
11-17-2022, 11:17 AM
its just another innocent little Nazi nothing to see here

:lmao

spurraider21
11-17-2022, 12:38 PM
I know what I wrote here a long time ago... I'm not the one throwing stones bro and instead just showing you a mirror. How hard is that for you to grasp? You sling shit hoping it sticks and then you run with it as if it's factual. I don't honestly think you're a homophobe because you've said or wrote fag here or irl. Jesus bro grow the fuck up already!
august 2020 was a long time ago?


nah i don't look at CumDumpster's dribble unless someone quotes that fag.

pgardn
11-17-2022, 01:33 PM
Now go get the Satanic idols being worn by Ukrainian farm animals.

Its not the Nazis now, keep up with the latest bizarre scapegoating.

ElNono
11-17-2022, 01:43 PM
:lmao every single time :lol

https://twitter.com/WaitingOnBiden/status/1592307868858212352

"Holding Biden Accountable" :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

ElNono
11-17-2022, 01:45 PM
:lmao

https://twitter.com/kurtulus_topcu/status/1593258846956376064

:lol the GOP doesn't take control of the House until January... smh

pgardn
11-17-2022, 01:51 PM
:lol the GOP doesn't take control of the House until January... smh

Only the stinky sauces for heater.

hater
11-17-2022, 01:54 PM
:lmao "unless you want more dead Polacks, give us Patriots"


:lol


https://twitter.com/hdevreij/status/1593241806992338944

ElNono
11-17-2022, 01:56 PM
:lmao "unless you want more dead Polacks, give us Patriots"

:lol

https://twitter.com/hdevreij/status/1593241806992338944

Whatever it takes :tu

pgardn
11-17-2022, 01:56 PM
:lmao "unless you want more dead Polacks, give us Patriots"


:lol




"Peace my nigs.
I love all of humanity.
Peace."

Traveling the Hypocrite Highway at top speeds.

hater
11-17-2022, 02:01 PM
Whatever it takes :tu

:wow

pgardn
11-17-2022, 02:08 PM
:wow

Giving them patriots and the accuracy when Russia fires missiles OVER Poland.

hater: " Well I am truly taken aback at the cruelty"

gtfoh meathead

hater
11-17-2022, 02:10 PM
Giving them patriots and the accuracy when Russia fires missiles OVER Poland.

hater: " Well I am truly taken aback at the cruelty"

gtfoh meathead

:lmao youre a retard

Russia didnt fire a missile over Poland :lmao


What a moron :lol

pgardn
11-17-2022, 02:15 PM
:lmao youre a retard

Russia didnt fire a missile over Poland :lmao


What a moron :lol

You are an idiot.
Russia has already said it would fire at Poland.

Poland AND NOW Ukraine have requested Patriot Missiles.
Where the fk have you been?

hater
11-17-2022, 02:28 PM
You are an idiot.
Russia has already said it would fire at Poland.

Poland AND NOW Ukraine have requested Patriot Missiles.
Where the fk have you been?

:lmao :lmao

Post the link where Russia said it would fire at Poland :lmao

pgardn
11-17-2022, 07:42 PM
:lmao :lmao

Post the link where Russia said it would fire at Poland :lmao

This is all on Putler's Government controlled media. Not to mention the threat of TACTICAL NUKES.
Where the fck have you been; grounded in some tweet from a Russian teenager...


A Russian state TV host warned Tuesday that President Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine could expand to Poland (https://nypost.com/2022/06/09/polish-president-duda-likens-vladimir-putin-to-adolf-hitler/) if the US continued to arm Kyiv’s forces.
On a broadcast of Russia Channel 1’s “60 minutes,” TV host Olga Skabeyeva (https://nypost.com/2022/06/01/putin-propagandist-olga-skabeyeva-says-world-war-iii-has-already-begun/) made the warning saying that if the West continued to send aid to Ukraine the conflict could intensify, Newsweek reported (https://www.newsweek.com/russia-poland-warsaw-us-weapons-ukraine-1724189).
“If God forbid, Americans deliver missiles that can travel 186 miles. Then we simply can’t stop,” the TV host said.
“We’ll go all the way to Warsaw.”

There are so many of these, you pick a site.
And guess what happens after Russia does this?
Poland asks for Patriot Missile systems.

pgardn
11-17-2022, 07:48 PM
:lmao :lmao

Post the link where Russia said it would fire at Poland :lmao

Furthermore, Go back to any link where you added a :wow:wow
You will find this and many other foolish statements.

hater
11-17-2022, 08:23 PM
This is all on Putler's Government controlled media. Not to mention the threat of TACTICAL NUKES.
Where the fck have you been; grounded in some tweet from a Russian teenager...


A Russian state TV host warned Tuesday that President Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine could expand to Poland (https://nypost.com/2022/06/09/polish-president-duda-likens-vladimir-putin-to-adolf-hitler/) if the US continued to arm Kyiv’s forces.
On a broadcast of Russia Channel 1’s “60 minutes,” TV host Olga Skabeyeva (https://nypost.com/2022/06/01/putin-propagandist-olga-skabeyeva-says-world-war-iii-has-already-begun/) made the warning saying that if the West continued to send aid to Ukraine the conflict could intensify, Newsweek reported (https://www.newsweek.com/russia-poland-warsaw-us-weapons-ukraine-1724189).
“If God forbid, Americans deliver missiles that can travel 186 miles. Then we simply can’t stop,” the TV host said.
“We’ll go all the way to Warsaw.”

There are so many of these, you pick a site.
And guess what happens after Russia does this?
Poland asks for Patriot Missile systems.

:lmao your brain is mush ma nig

Thats the only explanation of the diarreah you spew here :lmao

pgardn
11-17-2022, 09:16 PM
:lmao your brain is mush ma nig

Thats the only explanation of the diarreah you spew here :lmao

you are lost in some alternative reality.
or you’re just plain stupid.

pgardn
11-17-2022, 09:24 PM
It’s easy enough to say that Ukraine has not been forthright with this missile strike that was clearly a mistake

and then say you are concerned about Ukraine and it’s desire to be in NATO

BUT INSTEAD…, you claim that Ukraine is trying to kill civilians in Poland with surface to air missiles

do you understand that missiles that strike objects in the air are not near as effective as missiles designed to blow up on the ground.

so instead you say this is like 1939 and part of the Soviet union is after Poland.
do you know how stupid this is?

Ef-man
11-17-2022, 09:25 PM
"God-Damn, that some good numbers!!!!" - Vietnamese


https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1593388414010802177

DMX7
11-18-2022, 12:49 AM
:lmao "unless you want more dead Polacks, give us Patriots"


:lol


https://twitter.com/hdevreij/status/1593241806992338944

Extremely doubtful that Ukraine is going to get them. Baltic states, which are NATO allies, wanted them (at US expense) and US said "no".

Ef-man
11-18-2022, 01:04 AM
Am sure Ukrainians will make it toasty for the cold russians.


https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1593478915460415489

Ef-man
11-18-2022, 01:42 AM
https://twitter.com/Blue_Sauron/status/1593128633484210176

koriwhat
11-18-2022, 03:02 AM
august 2020 was a long time ago?

These days it sure is. Days, months, yrs seem to fly by in the last 6-8 yrs.

Keep throwing stones and I'll keep pointing out your hypocrisy. None of us are angelic so get over yourself already. :pop:

Splits
11-18-2022, 04:33 AM
:lmao

https://twitter.com/kurtulus_topcu/status/1593258846956376064

:lmao no links
:lmao just making shit up
:lmao 167 follower bot

https://i.ibb.co/vzzWGC9/image.png

horseshue
11-18-2022, 04:48 AM
:lmao no links
:lmao just making shit up
:lmao 167 follower bot

https://i.ibb.co/vzzWGC9/image.png

Hater must be one of worst trolls in his troll farm. He is just lazy. That's why he is only posting in shitty spurstalk forum. He couldn't even get a real impactful site to troll. What a looser. :lol

velik_m
11-18-2022, 07:28 AM
1593562068870897666

velik_m
11-18-2022, 07:29 AM
1593324649068335106

hater
11-18-2022, 08:02 AM
Extremely doubtful that Ukraine is going to get them. Baltic states, which are NATO allies, wanted them (at US expense) and US said "no".

Not to memtion Patriot are garbage just look at Saudi vs 2$ Yemeni driones :lmao

hater
11-18-2022, 09:46 AM
:lmao every single time :lol

https://twitter.com/MatreshkaCB/status/1592591543751577605

hater
11-18-2022, 09:48 AM
:lmao

https://twitter.com/TheGrayzoneNews/status/1592666520509120515

Ef-man
11-18-2022, 10:32 AM
Guess that Hater has a side hustle as a russian drone operator. :lol

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1593512294696341507?

Ef-man
11-18-2022, 10:36 AM
First there was a falling off windows epidemic, now bullets to chest? :lol

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1593281601005314049

hater
11-18-2022, 12:09 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao

So much winnnning :lmao

You know u anreal win er when even a clown like Muchin is laughing at u

https://twitter.com/PhilDeCarolis/status/1593612196486860801

hater
11-18-2022, 12:14 PM
:lmao

https://twitter.com/LoveOurTrump/status/1592374719680253953

Ef-man
11-18-2022, 12:15 PM
Ruh Roh Raggy

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1593351630589657092

hater
11-18-2022, 12:15 PM
Time for peace talks :tu

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1593620426017894400

ChumpDumper
11-18-2022, 12:44 PM
Time for peace talks :tu

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1593620426017894400

Do you approve these Russian missile attacks on Ukrainian civilians, hater?

Yes or no.

hater
11-18-2022, 12:46 PM
Do you approve these Russian missile attacks on Ukrainian civilians, hater?

Yes or no.

On power infrastructure.

Its a war duh

Thats American Warfare tactics 101


Cheers :tu

ChumpDumper
11-18-2022, 12:48 PM
On power infrastructure.

Its a war duh

Thats American Warfare tactics 101


Cheers :tuYou approve the Russians' killing 6000 Ukrainian civilians.

OK.

hater
11-18-2022, 12:49 PM
:lmao :lmao

So much winnnning :lmao


https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1593503733135990784

hater
11-18-2022, 12:50 PM
You approve the Russians' killing 6000 Ukrainian civilians.

OK.

Nope.

I want peace now :tu


You dont. Thus you approve of more thousands of dead. Disgusting.

ChumpDumper
11-18-2022, 01:04 PM
Nope.

I want peace now :tu


You dont. Thus you approve of more thousands of dead. Disgusting.You already gave your approval to the Russian missile attacks that have killed thousands of Ukrainians.

No take-backs.

All it takes for peace now is for Russia to leave.

You don't want that.

pgardn
11-18-2022, 01:20 PM
Nope.

I want peace now :tu


You dont. Thus you approve of more thousands of dead. Disgusting.

Russian messed with a hornets nest.
You loved it.
Now you bend the knee.
Russia will not give Crimea back without a fight so they will have to be removed.
Same in the East. Removal.


Aint happening unless Russia leaves. Russia aint leaving so they will be removed by force causing people to die.
Its up to Russia and they are more than willing to remove their 2nd tier citizens in a losing fight.
Facts.

Get used to it. Its gonna keep happening through the Winter. Russia wants people suffering, people will suffer. On both sides.
Because Russia is willing to kill civilians. Because War. You might want to start thinking when Ukraine acts like Russia and starts actively shelling civilians.
Then you wont say war. You will say Geneva Convention and how wrong it is because... you are a fkn hypocrite.

hater
11-18-2022, 01:37 PM
You already gave your approval to the Russian missile attacks that have killed thousands of Ukrainians.

No take-backs.

All it takes for peace now is for Russia to leave.

You don't want that.

Fake news.

I said its a war. Every army takes out the opponents infrastructure. We do it every single time.

Time for peace talks. You live in fantasy land. Tehre wont be peace without peace negotiations.

Since you are opposed to peace negotiations, you are rooting for more dead. Disgusting.

DMX7
11-18-2022, 01:39 PM
Not to memtion Patriot are garbage just look at Saudi vs 2$ Yemeni driones :lmao

Saudi's are buying more and the Swiss now too. They have to be operated properly and they're designed to take down bigger missiles not tiny drones which cheaper system can do. This is why they talk about creating a multilayer air defense for Ukraine.

hater
11-18-2022, 01:44 PM
Saudi's are buying more and the Swiss now too. They have to be operated properly and they're designed to take down bigger missiles not tiny drones which cheaper system can do. This is why they talk about creating a multilayer air defense for Ukraine.

:lmao multilayer defense is q fancy marketing word for our system is shit so we will sell you more shit :lmao

ChumpDumper
11-18-2022, 02:55 PM
Fake news.

I said its a war. Every army takes out the opponents infrastructure. We do it every single time.

Time for peace talks. You live in fantasy land. Tehre wont be peace without peace negotiations.

Since you are opposed to peace negotiations, you are rooting for more dead. Disgusting.
So you're switching your vote to being against the Russian missile attacks that have killed thousands of Ukrainian citizens.

I'm glad you changed your mind to agree with me.

Russia should leave.

CosmicCowboy
11-18-2022, 03:47 PM
I disagree with hater about 99% of the time when it comes to Russia And Ukraine but he is correct about attacking power infrastructure as established US military doctrine. Thats exactly what we did in Iraq.

spurraider21
11-18-2022, 03:55 PM
I disagree with hater about 99% of the time when it comes to Russia And Ukraine but he is correct about attacking power infrastructure as established US military doctrine. Thats exactly what we did in Iraq.
your OP in this thread was about how you "pretty much see Putin's point" :lol

Spurminator
11-18-2022, 03:56 PM
I disagree with hater about 99% of the time when it comes to Russia And Ukraine but he is correct about attacking power infrastructure as established US military doctrine. Thats exactly what we did in Iraq.

No one suggested otherwise.

CosmicCowboy
11-18-2022, 04:12 PM
your OP in this thread was about how you "pretty much see Putin's point" :lol

I never said I agreed with the invasion, asshole. I said we wouldn't like it if Mexico aligned itself with Russia.

Spurminator
11-18-2022, 04:21 PM
I never said I agreed with the invasion, asshole. I said we wouldn't like it if Mexico aligned itself with Russia.

No we wouldn't, because Russia is hostile, as evidenced by their unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.

hater
11-18-2022, 04:21 PM
I disagree with hater about 99% of the time when it comes to Russia And Ukraine but he is correct about attacking power infrastructure as established US military doctrine. Thats exactly what we did in Iraq.

Funny I also disagree with you 99% of the time :lol

But cheers we agree on something :tu

hater
11-18-2022, 04:22 PM
No we wouldn't, because Russia is hostile, as evidenced by their unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.

:lmao whos invaded more countries in the last 75 years more than the rest of the world combined??

Hint: u live there :lmao

hater
11-18-2022, 04:23 PM
:lmao German Garbage

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1593635262457847808

Spurminator
11-18-2022, 04:24 PM
:lmao whos invaded more countries in the last 75 years more than the rest of the world combined??

Hint: u live there :lmao


No one suggested otherwise.

hater
11-18-2022, 04:28 PM
No we wouldn't, because Russia is hostile,


Doesnt even know what he posts :lmao

Spurminator
11-18-2022, 04:30 PM
Doesnt even know what he posts :lmao

The US is supposed to be cool with Russian hostilities because we also have a history of hostility?

What does that have to do with Ukraine?

Spurminator
11-18-2022, 04:31 PM
"This Russian invasion of our border sucks, but I guess we can't do anything because remember Viet Nam?"

hater
11-18-2022, 04:41 PM
The US is supposed to be cool with Russian hostilities because we also have a history of hostility?

What does that have to do with Ukraine?

Yup

If u are a killer you have zero right to condemn another killer.

Glad you figured it out.

pgardn
11-18-2022, 11:53 PM
Yup

If u are a killer you have zero right to condemn another killer.

Glad you figured it out.

The biggest hypocrite on ST making rules on hypocrisy

gftoh…

Ef-man
11-19-2022, 01:25 AM
https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1593791833657704448

velik_m
11-19-2022, 02:56 AM
1593564758267019266

velik_m
11-19-2022, 07:38 AM
1593903369357230081

velik_m
11-19-2022, 10:16 AM
1593968778790014977

Ef-man
11-19-2022, 11:47 PM
Great russian quartermaster :lol

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1593910347446030339

Ef-man
11-20-2022, 12:01 AM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1594168009333116930

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1594166849704325121

velik_m
11-20-2022, 02:12 AM
1594097975978037248

Ef-man
11-20-2022, 01:23 PM
https://twitter.com/Ayei_Eloheichem/status/1594148602548342785

horseshue
11-20-2022, 02:18 PM
https://twitter.com/Ayei_Eloheichem/status/1594148602548342785

Second best army in the world. On par with US and China. :lol

Isitjustme?
11-20-2022, 02:56 PM
Dang, searching through some of haters old posts..and he been at this a long time tbh

https://i.imgur.com/ddoZN3T_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Ef-man
11-21-2022, 05:48 AM
Whatever it takes.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1594602779686981633

Ef-man
11-21-2022, 11:15 AM
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1594660806012338178

Ef-man
11-21-2022, 08:56 PM
Putler placed in cuck shed by his best bud, Erdogan.

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1594822674076794881

DMX7
11-21-2022, 10:32 PM
Putler placed in cuck shed by his best bud, Erdogan.

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1594822674076794881

Erdogan never forgot when Putin tried to humiliate him by making him wait for Putin to show up for a meeting.

DMX7
11-21-2022, 10:39 PM
Great russian quartermaster :lol

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1593910347446030339

It's so cliche it's like straight out of an Hollywood film. :lol

velik_m
11-22-2022, 12:57 AM
1594745310395383816

velik_m
11-22-2022, 01:27 AM
1594827373853253667

Ef-man
11-22-2022, 08:30 AM
Why pay more when you can get it cheaper by waiting.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1595025953859768321

horseshue
11-22-2022, 10:35 AM
Why pay more when you can get it cheaper by waiting.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1595025953859768321

If that is your friend, than, who needs enemies? :lol

velik_m
11-22-2022, 03:41 PM
1595147755462135808

Ef-man
11-23-2022, 01:21 AM
Ruh Roh Raggy

https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1595163611433144320

Ef-man
11-23-2022, 01:34 AM
Boss Erdogan cucking putler.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1595042108553007105

DarrinS
11-23-2022, 01:49 AM
Over a thousand pages about this. I give zero fucks. Other than US spending WAYY too much.

ChumpDumper
11-23-2022, 02:19 AM
Over a thousand pages about this. I give zero fucks. Other than US spending WAYY too much.

Too much compared to what?

You are very selective on what you think is wasteful spending.

ElNono
11-23-2022, 02:54 AM
Over a thousand pages about this. I give zero fucks. Other than US spending WAYY too much.

Really? Decimated about half of Russia conventional army for a handful of billions?

Where were you when we spent trillions in Iraq and Afganistan?

horseshue
11-23-2022, 05:03 AM
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1595283501183483904

:lmao

ElNono
11-23-2022, 07:13 AM
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1595283501183483904

:lmao

https://emerging-europe.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/borat-subsequent-moviefilm-wallpaper.jpeg

Ef-man
11-23-2022, 08:02 AM
:lol


1230998887298564096


Over a thousand pages about this. I give zero fucks. Other than US spending WAYY too much.

Hurts to see Ole Joe push putler’s shit in, don’t it? :lmao :lmao :lmao

pgardn
11-23-2022, 11:11 AM
Over a thousand pages about this. I give zero fucks. Other than US spending WAYY too much.

Biggest war since WWII and Darrin is out.
Now he closes himself in a closet and enters a sensory deprivation tank so he can hallucinate.

Typical 'ask what you can do for me' Republican. Then chant, USA!

"Nothing happening outback in my trailer trash. All is well. And wtf with these gas prices and inflation?"

spurraider21
11-23-2022, 12:02 PM
Over a thousand pages about this. I give zero fucks. Other than US spending WAYY too much.
we are all aware that Ukraine is not in your zip code

velik_m
11-23-2022, 01:43 PM
1595482528391086106

velik_m
11-23-2022, 01:44 PM
1595457387045212160

DMC
11-23-2022, 08:59 PM
we are all aware that Ukraine is not in your zip code

So when someone makes a comment that they are concerned, someone else acts like it's silly and asks how it affects them personally. When the same person isn't concerned, suddenly it's about their lack of concern because it doesn't affect them personally.

Ya'll need to make you your minds.

spurraider21
11-23-2022, 09:22 PM
So when someone makes a comment that they are concerned, someone else acts like it's silly and asks how it affects them personally. When the same person isn't concerned, suddenly it's about their lack of concern because it doesn't affect them personally.

Ya'll need to make you your minds.
:lol "someone"
:lol "ya'll"

are you talking to me or just yelling at clouds?

welcome back tbh. im sorry russia hasnt conquered ukraine yet

pgardn
11-23-2022, 09:36 PM
So when someone makes a comment that they are concerned, someone else acts like it's silly and asks how it affects them personally. When the same person isn't concerned, suddenly it's about their lack of concern because it doesn't affect them personally.

Ya'll need to make you your minds.

Oh.

so it was meant to say I am concerned because it is an important event for most of the globe.
But it was also not meant that way. Why are people concerned DMC? What types of events cause people to become concerned on a political discussion board?
Give the board a lecture on this please.

You just muddle your way through nothingness per usual.
Trying to create some paradox that does not exist.
Why the fk do you even post here... ?

Ef-man
11-24-2022, 08:31 AM
:lol "someone"
:lol "ya'll"

are you talking to me or just yelling at clouds?

welcome back tbh. im sorry russia hasnt conquered ukraine yet

When a confused "someone" ITT spouts, "Ya'll need to make you your minds" should anyone be concerned?

Asking for someone that holds grudges.

hater
11-24-2022, 10:12 AM
Over a thousand pages about this. I give zero fucks. Other than US spending WAYY too much.

:tu u and most americans agree. America does not give 2 shits about Ukranians.

Time for peace :tu

hater
11-24-2022, 10:15 AM
Lights out for Ukraine. Kiev Mayor Klitzko says most of the city have to be evqcuated as this winter will be worse than back in WW2


This is what winnnning looks like folks



Moonofalabama:

Ukraine - Lights Out, No Water And Soon No Heat
Earlier today the Russian military shut down the Ukrainian electricity network.

Previous attacks had limited the distribution capacity to some 50% of demand. Controlled blackouts over several hours per day allowed to give some electricity for a few hours to most parts of the country. The attack today created a much larger problem. Not only were distribution networks attacked but also so the elements that connect Ukraine's electricity production facilities to the distribution network. All four nuclear power stations of Ukraine with their 15 reactors are now in shutdown mode.


A country that is becoming 'uninhabitable' has little chance to wage and win a war. When there is no transport, no electricity, no heat and no communication everything becomes incredibly difficult.

The refugee stream all this will cause will increase pressure on Europe to push Ukraine into negotiating for peace with Russia. Tough conditions will be applied but there is no other way

ChumpDumper
11-24-2022, 10:57 AM
Lights out for Ukraine. Kiev Mayor Klitzko says most of the city have to be evqcuated as this winter will be worse than back in WW2


This is what winnnning looks like folks



Moonofalabama:

Ukraine - Lights Out, No Water And Soon No Heat
Earlier today the Russian military shut down the Ukrainian electricity network.

Previous attacks had limited the distribution capacity to some 50% of demand. Controlled blackouts over several hours per day allowed to give some electricity for a few hours to most parts of the country. The attack today created a much larger problem. Not only were distribution networks attacked but also so the elements that connect Ukraine's electricity production facilities to the distribution network. All four nuclear power stations of Ukraine with their 15 reactors are now in shutdown mode.


A country that is becoming 'uninhabitable' has little chance to wage and win a war. When there is no transport, no electricity, no heat and no communication everything becomes incredibly difficult.

The refugee stream all this will cause will increase pressure on Europe to push Ukraine into negotiating for peace with Russia. Tough conditions will be applied but there is no other wayYou want this to happen.

And if course there is another way.

pgardn
11-24-2022, 01:48 PM
:tu u and most americans agree. America does not give 2 shits about Ukranians.

Time for peace :tu

” Because Ukrainians are Nazis. No sorry… Ukrainians believe in Satan. No check that… Ukrainians ….”

pgardn
11-24-2022, 01:49 PM
Lights out for Ukraine. Kiev Mayor Klitzko says most of the city have to be evqcuated as this winter will be worse than back in WW2


This is what winnnning looks like folks



Moonofalabama:

Ukraine - Lights Out, No Water And Soon No Heat
Earlier today the Russian military shut down the Ukrainian electricity network.

Previous attacks had limited the distribution capacity to some 50% of demand. Controlled blackouts over several hours per day allowed to give some electricity for a few hours to most parts of the country. The attack today created a much larger problem. Not only were distribution networks attacked but also so the elements that connect Ukraine's electricity production facilities to the distribution network. All four nuclear power stations of Ukraine with their 15 reactors are now in shutdown mode.


A country that is becoming 'uninhabitable' has little chance to wage and win a war. When there is no transport, no electricity, no heat and no communication everything becomes incredibly difficult.

The refugee stream all this will cause will increase pressure on Europe to push Ukraine into negotiating for peace with Russia. Tough conditions will be applied but there is no other way

More calling for peace while lavishly bathing in suffering.
Maximum Hypocrite.

DMC
11-24-2022, 01:53 PM
Oh.

so it was meant to say I am concerned because it is an important event for most of the globe.
But it was also not meant that way. Why are people concerned DMC? What types of events cause people to become concerned on a political discussion board?
Give the board a lecture on this please.

You just muddle your way through nothingness per usual.
Trying to create some paradox that does not exist.
Why the fk do you even post here... ?

I don't recall quoting you. Why did you respond?

DMC
11-24-2022, 01:54 PM
:lol "someone"
:lol "ya'll"

are you talking to me or just yelling at clouds?

welcome back tbh. im sorry russia hasnt conquered ukraine yet

You pointed out "muh zipcode" is the same concept as "why are you concerned, how does it affect you?". I'm just reminding you.

Thanks, still not "back". Getting there.

Ef-man
11-24-2022, 11:54 PM
They fucked around and found out.


https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1595849488773615617

horseshue
11-25-2022, 02:20 AM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1596005601192333317

Doesn't seem like cutting off electricity have a major effect on breaking morale.
Pootin huilo! :lmao

velik_m
11-25-2022, 07:33 AM
1595733969202561026

hater
11-25-2022, 09:51 AM
Damn Nazis commiting warcrimes.

Col Macgreggor says its desperation as they are doomed to get obliterated :wow

k0BhWNWl0Q0

spurraider21
11-25-2022, 12:22 PM
You pointed out "muh zipcode" is the same concept as "why are you concerned, how does it affect you?". I'm just reminding you.

Thanks, still not "back". Getting there.
I dont need to be reminded. Haven’t said anything inconsistent with that. I’m mocking Darrin as he only cares about things that directly impact him ie are in his zipcode

Ef-man
11-26-2022, 01:06 AM
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1596200795912929281

DMX7
11-26-2022, 02:33 AM
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1596200795912929281

The woman to his left is gleefully smiling despite the reality that this is should be a solemn event.

Isitjustme?
11-26-2022, 04:57 AM
Lights out for Ukraine. Kiev Mayor Klitzko says most of the city have to be evqcuated as this winter will be worse than back in WW2


This is what winnnning looks like folks



Moonofalabama:

Ukraine - Lights Out, No Water And Soon No Heat
Earlier today the Russian military shut down the Ukrainian electricity network.

Previous attacks had limited the distribution capacity to some 50% of demand. Controlled blackouts over several hours per day allowed to give some electricity for a few hours to most parts of the country. The attack today created a much larger problem. Not only were distribution networks attacked but also so the elements that connect Ukraine's electricity production facilities to the distribution network. All four nuclear power stations of Ukraine with their 15 reactors are now in shutdown mode.


A country that is becoming 'uninhabitable' has little chance to wage and win a war. When there is no transport, no electricity, no heat and no communication everything becomes incredibly difficult.

The refugee stream all this will cause will increase pressure on Europe to push Ukraine into negotiating for peace with Russia. Tough conditions will be applied but there is no other way

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/MagnitskySergei.jpg

velik_m
11-26-2022, 05:10 AM
1596133557440741376


...
Through the EU's Emergency Response Coordination Centre, the Commission is currently preparing the delivery to Ukraine as quickly as possible of the following large donations by Member States and directly from the Commission's rescEU reserve:

200 medium-sized transformers and a large autotransformer from Lithuania.
a medium-sized autotransformer from Latvia.
40 heavy generators from the rescEU reserve located in Romania. Each of these generators can provide uninterrupted power to a small to medium sized hospital
...


https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/STATEMENT_22_7214


...
In response to Ukraine’s appeal, the Ministry for Europe and Foreign Affairs is currently delivering 100 generators to Romania, each with a power of 50-100 kilowatts. The generators will be handed over to the Ukrainian authorities in the coming days. The delivery, organized by the Ministry for Europe and Foreign Affairs’ Crisis and Support Centre, has the support of the European Union’s Civil Protection Mechanism and is part of an operation by several EU countries to send more than 500 generators.
...

https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/country-files/ukraine/news/article/ukraine-delivery-of-generators-for-the-ukrainian-people-23-nov-2022

DMC
11-26-2022, 12:10 PM
With that image I'm sure Russia knows where the generators are sitting. :lol

Why does Ukraine need rescuing again? I thought they were stomping the shit out of Russia.

DMC
11-26-2022, 12:15 PM
The woman to his left is gleefully smiling despite the reality that this is should be a solemn event.

Are they the mothers of dead servicemen? When you've lived on borsht for decades, sitting with Putin and having a meal could the the same as winning the lottery in the US. You can always have another kid. Hell, the US has almost gone to civil war to preserve the right to kill your own babies.

ChumpDumper
11-26-2022, 12:19 PM
You mean your side has already started murdering doctors over abortion.

velik_m
11-26-2022, 12:19 PM
Nov 26 (Reuters) - Belarus Foreign Minister Vladimir Makei has died at the age of 64, state news agency Belta reported on Saturday.

"Foreign Minister Vladimir Makei has passed away suddenly," Belta reported.

Makei had held his post since 2012.

He had attended a conference of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) - a military alliance of several post soviet states - in Yerevan earlier this week and was due to meet Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov on Monday.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/belarus-foreign-minister-makei-dies-belta-2022-11-26/

horseshue
11-26-2022, 12:28 PM
With that image I'm sure Russia knows where the generators are sitting. :lol

Why does Ukraine need rescuing again? I thought they were stomping the shit out of Russia.

Wasn't you the one calling russians the second best army in the world? On par with usa and china? How it that statement holding on?

ChumpDumper
11-26-2022, 12:39 PM
:lol DMC thinks all 1000 generators are still sitting there unused in one parking lot.

horseshue
11-26-2022, 03:09 PM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1596536459556950017

DMC
11-26-2022, 03:25 PM
I dont need to be reminded. Haven’t said anything inconsistent with that. I’m mocking Darrin as he only cares about things that directly impact him ie are in his zipcode

Which is why I didn't accuse you specifically. Your angst is highly selective, "muh zipcode" irks the fuck out of you but "your zipcode" seems to slide right by 99% of the time.

DMC
11-26-2022, 03:35 PM
Wasn't you the one calling russians the second best army in the world? On par with usa and china? How it that statement holding on?

Seeing how Ukraine is begging for handouts in the dark with a dozen other countries sending support, I'd say it's holding on pretty well.

https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/20418.jpeg

Facts don't care about your feelings. You can argue based on desired outcome all day, these stats are what they are.

DMC
11-26-2022, 03:42 PM
It's obvious Russia doesn't consider human cost how the US does, there's no real political pressure on Putin to win an election so he's not worried about ads being aired showing coffins coming back home. In fact, I'd say below the US, no country until you get to France has the publicly apparent concern for the human cost of war. Some of these other nations just don't engage often, but their day to day business models illustrate the political cost for human lives isn't where the US is. So in essence Russia can sling bodies at Ukraine until there are no more Russians, Putin would still be in power and Ukraine won't have an inch more of territory than they had at the start. The US, on the other hand, abandoned Afghanistan for political reasons, claiming they got what they came for more than 10 years after the death of OBL. The US could have pulled out as soon as OBL was killed, but politics kept them engaged, the business of war. I guess it became too costly on the political front.

ElNono
11-26-2022, 04:09 PM
It's obvious Russia doesn't consider human cost how the US does, there's no real political pressure on Putin to win an election so he's not worried

Well, it's not like there are actual elections in Russia. But there's a political pressure and cost, and it does mount. We've seen Russia collapse once already after a very long military campaign.

horseshue
11-26-2022, 04:34 PM
Seeing how Ukraine is begging for handouts in the dark with a dozen other countries sending support, I'd say it's holding on pretty well.

https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/20418.jpeg

Facts don't care about your feelings. You can argue based on desired outcome all day, these stats are what they are.

Fact is, that russian main teritorial gains were during first 2 weeks of this war, and since april they are mainly losing territory. Is that a feeling?
Why was 18 himars enough to stop second army in the world?
That index is based solely on total numbers, and do not take into consideration quality.
Good thing, that war is no won by that shitty index.

ElNono
11-26-2022, 04:37 PM
Seeing how Ukraine is begging for handouts in the dark with a dozen other countries sending support, I'd say it's holding on pretty well.

https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/20418.jpeg

Facts don't care about your feelings. You can argue based on desired outcome all day, these stats are what they are.

Wonder what this looks like come January 2023...

spurraider21
11-26-2022, 05:17 PM
Which is why I didn't accuse you specifically. Your angst is highly selective, "muh zipcode" irks the fuck out of you but "your zipcode" seems to slide right by 99% of the time.
Which is why i said you are yelling into the clouds instead of just addressing the person you were quoting

Ef-man
11-26-2022, 05:35 PM
Wonder what this looks like come January 2023...

Chuncko continuing to post that russian military might goes to eleven:


https://youtu.be/KOO5S4vxi0o

:lmao :lmao :lmao

DMC
11-26-2022, 08:05 PM
Well, it's not like there are actual elections in Russia. But there's a political pressure and cost, and it does mount. We've seen Russia collapse once already after a very long military campaign.

"there's no real political pressure on Putin to win an election"

We agree

It would be nice to see Russia collapse, if the NATO countries along with IAEA could secure the nuclear material and warheads before F Murray Abraham gets his hands on them.

DMC
11-26-2022, 08:06 PM
Which is why i said you are yelling into the clouds instead of just addressing the person you were quoting

The clouds heard me, ergo you responded.

DMC
11-26-2022, 08:07 PM
Wonder what this looks like come January 2023...

I don't imagine Ukraine will be in the top 3. They'll get a lottery pick.

DMC
11-26-2022, 08:16 PM
Fact is, that russian main teritorial gains were during first 2 weeks of this war, and since april they are mainly losing territory. Is that a feeling?
Why was 18 himars enough to stop second army in the world?
That index is based solely on total numbers, and do not take into consideration quality.
Good thing, that war is no won by that shitty index.

Quality is a subjective metric. Using common metrics, this is how the militaries of the world stack up. Besides, they are not considering the US as the supply side of the Ukrainian military but you probably are. So the point stands that Russia is ranked 2nd in the world in military firepower.

Do you think Ukraine would have launched a tactical nuke if they had one? I'd say probably so, but even more than that Putin wouldn't have attacked under those conditions. Ukraine is fighting a war where the attacker has somewhat restrained the attack to conventional warfare. That isn't the limit of Russia's arsenal however. The fact that the US is reluctant to give the appearance of going to war against Russia speaks to the power that Russia has militarily. Nuclear countries possess a very powerful deterrent. US didn't hesitate to attack Iraq, who did not attack the US, nor were they hesitant to go into other skirmishes. Russia is a different story.

ElNono
11-26-2022, 11:58 PM
"there's no real political pressure on Putin to win an election"

We agree

It would be nice to see Russia collapse, if the NATO countries along with IAEA could secure the nuclear material and warheads before F Murray Abraham gets his hands on them.

Well, we do agree in that there's political pressure. Just don't think it translate to elections per se, which in Russia are as phony as they can be.

Political pressure in Russia looks more like factions of the FSB or the military being unhappy or blamed for failure, which sooner or later will start pointing fingers upstairs.

Russia is still primarily a fascist, military and authoritarian country. I don't think they'll be a popular revolution there. What's more likely is a military upraising or Putler accidentally falling face first from a 22 story building...

ElNono
11-26-2022, 11:59 PM
I don't imagine Ukraine will be in the top 3. They'll get a lottery pick.

I can't imagine Russia being in the top 3 either, tbh... especially when it comes to weapon numbers and financial stability...

DMC
11-27-2022, 01:55 AM
Well, we do agree in that there's political pressure. Just don't think it translate to elections per se, which in Russia are as phony as they can be.

Political pressure in Russia looks more like factions of the FSB or the military being unhappy or blamed for failure, which sooner or later will start pointing fingers upstairs.

Russia is still primarily a fascist, military and authoritarian country. I don't think they'll be a popular revolution there. What's more likely is a military upraising or Putler accidentally falling face first from a 22 story building...
Failure due to losing face over not fairing well in the battle and in the media, not failure due to losing thousands of Russians. If Putin lost 50K Russians and took Ukraine, the entire Kremlin and FSB would celebrate it as a huge victory.


I can't imagine Russia being in the top 3 either, tbh... especially when it comes to weapon numbers and financial stability...

Yet there they sit.

ChumpDumper
11-27-2022, 03:02 AM
Seeing how Ukraine is begging for handouts in the dark with a dozen other countries sending support, I'd say it's holding on pretty well.

https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/20418.jpeg

Facts don't care about your feelings. You can argue based on desired outcome all day, these stats are what they are.
Eh, what statistic?

They say power twice, so that's probably good.

ElNono
11-27-2022, 04:01 AM
Failure due to losing face over not fairing well in the battle and in the media, not failure due to losing thousands of Russians. If Putin lost 50K Russians and took Ukraine, the entire Kremlin and FSB would celebrate it as a huge victory.

But the problem is that they did lose thousands of Russians and have very little to show for it.

And that overlooks that a coup is a lot easier to pull off if you have popular support behind it. It almost gives it certain validation.

So I wouldn't overlook the number of deaths, and the potential anger of the population, despite that they might not be able to achieve change by themselves.


Yet there they sit.

You mean they were sitting in January 2022... that's why I said I would be curious to see where they sit come January 2023...

horseshue
11-27-2022, 05:47 AM
I can't imagine Russia being in the top 3 either, tbh... especially when it comes to weapon numbers and financial stability...

They are taking territory size into consideration, in that index. So by default they will always be high. Also, 12+k tanks and 1st place in that ranking, when in reality about one third of those tanks exists in real life. And that was in january. I wonder, is t-62 equal to abrams tank? :lol
Still, they will be third next year, based on those ridiculous numbers and their nuclear arsenal, but performance is below top 10.

spurraider21
11-27-2022, 11:54 AM
The clouds heard me, ergo you responded.
You directly responded to my quote. Well you’re still as dense as when you left

ElNono
11-27-2022, 01:08 PM
They are taking territory size into consideration, in that index. So by default they will always be high. Also, 12+k tanks and 1st place in that ranking, when in reality about one third of those tanks exists in real life. And that was in january. I wonder, is t-62 equal to abrams tank? :lol
Still, they will be third next year, based on those ridiculous numbers and their nuclear arsenal, but performance is below top 10.

Yeah, also total population, a meaningless number. Two things are certain: 1) they can't replace their antiquated materiel fast enough. 2) their economy is in the shitter, and still heading downwards.

DMC
11-27-2022, 01:59 PM
But the problem is that they did lose thousands of Russians and have very little to show for it.

And that overlooks that a coup is a lot easier to pull off if you have popular support behind it. It almost gives it certain validation.

So I wouldn't overlook the number of deaths, and the potential anger of the population, despite that they might not be able to achieve change by themselves.

I am not sure what your objection is to what I said. You seem to be in agreement that human cost isn't the issue in Russia (and many of the other top militaries) as much as the appearance of weakness globally. I don't think there will be a coup attempt in Russia. Never know though.


You mean they were sitting in January 2022... that's why I said I would be curious to see where they sit come January 2023...
That's where it was prior to escalation of the war. I doubt they lost an aircraft carrier or a nuclear sub.

What military do you think overtakes them in the standings? There seems to be a sizeable gap between the top 3 and number 4.

DMC
11-27-2022, 02:01 PM
You directly responded to my quote. Well you’re still as dense as when you left

You're the one who called yourself "the clouds".

ElNono
11-27-2022, 03:07 PM
I am not sure what your objection is to what I said. You seem to be in agreement that human cost isn't the issue in Russia (and many of the other top militaries) as much as the appearance of weakness globally. I don't think there will be a coup attempt in Russia. Never know though.

I disagree that human cost isn't an issue. Your argument is that it isn't an issue because the populace can't vote Putler our or raise up, but I don't think those are the only avenues for ousting Putler (as I explained before).

Not claiming it's going to happen, but I do think it's one of many factors that can push towards that.


That's where it was prior to escalation of the war. I doubt they lost an aircraft carrier or a nuclear sub.

What military do you think overtakes them in the standings? There seems to be a sizeable gap between the top 3 and number 4.

I think realistically all of them do, especially if nuclear is indeed off the table. The only superiority in that case is probably on the naval side.

DMC
11-27-2022, 03:11 PM
I disagree that human cost isn't an issue. Your argument is that it isn't an issue because the populace can't vote Putler our or raise up, but I don't think those are the only avenues for ousting Putler (as I explained before).

Not claiming it's going to happen, but I do think it's one of many factors that can push towards that.

I didn't say it's not an issue. I said it's not "the" issue. If a coup were to happen in Russia, it wouldn't be about human lives. It would be about the uber wealthy losing money and the Kremlin losing face. Russia has a long history of not giving a fuck about lives. If you can salve the mother with a pack of frozen fish... ?


I think realistically all of them do, especially if nuclear is indeed off the table. The only superiority in that case is probably on the naval side.
Why is nuclear off the table? It ensures you won't be invaded. Who is going to invade a nuclear country?

pgardn
11-27-2022, 03:20 PM
Why is nuclear off the table? It ensures you won't be invaded. Who is going to invade a nuclear country?

An out of touch political leader who wants to keep his current status above all.

"If I go down, fk the world. The world needs to pay for this"

ElNono
11-27-2022, 03:20 PM
I didn't say it's not an issue. I said it's not "the" issue. If a coup were to happen in Russia, it wouldn't be about human lives. It would be about the uber wealthy losing money and the Kremlin losing face. Russia has a long history of not giving a fuck about lives. If you can salve the mother with a pack of frozen fish... ?

IMO, if a coup were to happen, it'll be a sum of factors, including loss of life. I do give you that Russia historically doesn't give a fuck about lives (the Stalin doctrine).


Why is nuclear off the table? It ensures you won't be invaded. Who is going to invade a nuclear country?

The question in this case is who is going to use nuclear to invade another country, which is the situation here.

DMC
11-27-2022, 05:20 PM
An out of touch political leader who wants to keep his current status above all.

"If I go down, fk the world. The world needs to pay for this"

Doesn't explain why nuclear capability isn't part of the military powers discussion.

DMC
11-27-2022, 05:21 PM
IMO, if a coup were to happen, it'll be a sum of factors, including loss of life. I do give you that Russia historically doesn't give a fuck about lives (the Stalin doctrine).



The question in this case is who is going to use nuclear to invade another country, which is the situation here.

Russia isn't using nuclear to invade, they are using it to stave off outside direct help.

ElNono
11-27-2022, 06:03 PM
Russia isn't using nuclear to invade, they are using it to stave off outside direct help.

That definitely didn't work. The question is if they're going to use a tactical nuke in Ukraine. But they likely won't, because if they think they have it bad now in Ukraine, it can get a lot worse for them very quickly.

pgardn
11-27-2022, 06:47 PM
Doesn't explain why nuclear capability isn't part of the military powers discussion.

My statement is clearly taken as a primary consideration by all.

DMC
11-27-2022, 08:13 PM
That definitely didn't work. The question is if they're going to use a tactical nuke in Ukraine. But they likely won't, because if they think they have it bad now in Ukraine, it can get a lot worse for them very quickly.

It is working. The US doesn't have troops in the Ukraine or SAM batteries on the border, nor are they enforcing a NFZ.

Why no no-fly zone over Ukraine?

It is that distinct possibility of direct combat between nuclear armed nations — Russia and the U.S. — that has kept both President Biden and his allies from refusing to impose a no-fly zone over Ukraine. -CBS

The US enforced NFZs in other areas. If nuclear deterrence isn't a thing, why care about the possibility of direct combat with a nuclear armed nation?

So being a nuclear power has big rewards. It's why PRNK and Iraq want nukes. It almost guarantees you will not be attacked by another nuclear power.

DMC
11-27-2022, 08:14 PM
My statement is clearly taken as a primary consideration by all.

Yeah.. no idea what you're talking about.

Ef-man
11-27-2022, 08:36 PM
It is working. The US doesn't have troops in the Ukraine or SAM batteries on the border, nor are they enforcing a NFZ.

Why no no-fly zone over Ukraine?

It is that distinct possibility of direct combat between nuclear armed nations — Russia and the U.S. — that has kept both President Biden and his allies from refusing to impose a no-fly zone over Ukraine. -CBS

The US enforced NFZs in other areas. If nuclear deterrence isn't a thing, why care about the possibility of direct combat with a nuclear armed nation?

So being a nuclear power has big rewards. It's why PRNK and Iraq want nukes. It almost guarantees you will not be attacked by another nuclear power.

Iraq wants nukes???

You mean Iran, idiot! :lmao

Stick to yelling "Hodor, Hodor." You will sound more intelligent that way.

ElNono
11-27-2022, 10:11 PM
It is working. The US doesn't have troops in the Ukraine or SAM batteries on the border, nor are they enforcing a NFZ.

Why no no-fly zone over Ukraine?

It is that distinct possibility of direct combat between nuclear armed nations — Russia and the U.S. — that has kept both President Biden and his allies from refusing to impose a no-fly zone over Ukraine. -CBS

The US enforced NFZs in other areas. If nuclear deterrence isn't a thing, why care about the possibility of direct combat with a nuclear armed nation?

So being a nuclear power has big rewards. It's why PRNK and Iraq want nukes. It almost guarantees you will not be attacked by another nuclear power.

No, it's not working. There's indeed direct outside help. Ukraine doesn't need US troops, they have their own, they need weapons, training, intel, etc which is exactly what all the western nations have directly provided, and they've been very open about it.

There's also no need for a NFZ considering Russia doesn't have air superiority either... who are you going to prevent from flying?

North Korea is a nuclear state already. Much like Israel and Pakistan, they're not officially recognized by NPT, but they've nuclear weapons. And nuclear deterrence is very overrated: see Israel for a country with nuclear capabilities still being attacked.

There are no guarantees. Should Russia use a tactical nuke in Ukraine, I can see NATO just simply using conventional air superiority to decimate whatever small chunk of Ukrainian land Russia is still holding. Like I said, it can only get worse for Russia.

DMC
11-27-2022, 10:24 PM
No, it's not working. There's indeed direct outside help. Ukraine doesn't need US troops, they have their own, they need weapons, training, intel, etc which is exactly what all the western nations have directly provided, and they've been very open about it.

There's also no need for a NFZ considering Russia doesn't have air superiority either... who are you going to prevent from flying?

North Korea is a nuclear state already. Much like Israel and Pakistan, they're not officially recognized by NPT, but they've nuclear weapons. And nuclear deterrence is very overrated: see Israel for a country with nuclear capabilities still being attacked.

There are no guarantees. Should Russia use a tactical nuke in Ukraine, I can see NATO just simply using conventional air superiority to decimate whatever small chunk of Ukrainian land Russia is still holding. Like I said, it can only get worse for Russia.
They've been very open about not getting into direct combat with Russian soldiers/pilots. Ukraine has asked for NFZs but haven't gotten them. You seem to think they have everything they need yet they haven't repelled the attack.

No need for a NFZ but Ukraine requests it. Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky called on the international community to implement a no-fly zone to protect civilians and deny the Russian air force the ability to gain air superiority. CSIS

Historically, the United States has established and supported no-fly zones in Bosnia, Libya, and Iraq through sustained operations, such as both Northern and Southern Watch as well as Provide Comfort. These examples, however, differ in three key ways from the proposed no-fly zones over Ukraine. First, in these historic examples, the United States established the boundaries of each no-fly zone over an aggressor nation rather than a nation that is being supported. Second, those offending nations did not possess nuclear weapons—more specifically tactical nuclear weapons as a means of escalation as is the case of Russia. Finally, those nations did not possess the kinetic or non-kinetic striking power to impose costs on the nations supporting the no-fly zones. -CSIS

The US doesn't want to piss off Russia to the point of going to war against them. You can call proxy war all day, there's lines they don't want to cross.

NK doesn't have ICBM capability so all they can do in response is nuke other Asians.

It can get worse for Ukraine as well. Time is the enemy for them.

Ef-man
11-27-2022, 10:55 PM
That is one way to get attention.

https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1597021857882210304