Ukraine

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1720017124612002202

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1719981889606299699

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/Tendar/status/1720047053626028245

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/astraiaintel/status/1719766358106235092

[pgardn]

The Economist: General Valery Zaluzhny admits the war is at a stalemate



I think that was exactly the hope of the Biden administration too but sadly it didn't work. At least the mainstream media is not simply cheerleading, at least in this case we get a bit of reality.

Against a democracy, this strategy might have worked. Not in an authoritarian state when the leaders are not accountable to the general public in any meaningful way.

That was a good article. There is even a better assessment by an independent military analyst summery on ISW.
Basically says Ukraine needs the more sophisticated air force to take to the air to have a chance.
The F 16 are VERY late.

The leadership of Russia is accountable to OTHER leadership. The Ultranationalists are still enraged by the number of Russians getting slaughtered.
Prigohzin was just one example of how the leadership is still vulnerable. But this is not necessarily good for Ukraine. Could be if enough infighting keeps up and they keep tying themselves in knots.

Imo Ukraine is absolutely capable with the right weapons in number. The Russians are sending units in WITHOUT ANY WEAPONS. z UNITS they call them. This is a sophisticated war in the air, and more like WWI on the ground until Ukraine is given the goods. In any event Russia must be stopped. And they will be. They will not get Ukraine. Unless they just nuke it.
up. So disagree with the last sentence. Russia is accountable to authoritarian FACTIONS who have public support. This is very obvious.

oh yes, The Economist is not mainstream. They actually back their assessments with solid reasoning and factual information. This is not a hater twitter feed, Thats mainstream on this board.
I do appreciate your interest DMX. We just diagree.

[hater]

...&, &, & get that 20% back, eh, chief?

:lmao

[Ef-man]

Much stronger than coffee.

https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1720024653312221538

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[koriwhat]

Fuck Ukraine!

[ElNono]

It's not the second time either. Russia was already in economic ruins after losing the war against the Japanese and bleeding cash when it collapsed in 1917.

You can also go back to the Tzar era. It's like a movie on a loop.

[hater]

The Economist: General Valery Zaluzhny admits the war is at a stalemate



I think that was exactly the hope of the Biden administration too but sadly it didn't work. At least the mainstream media is not simply cheerleading, at least in this case we get a bit of reality.

Against a democracy, this strategy might have worked. Not in an authoritarian state when the leaders are not accountable to the general public in any meaningful way.

It was a stalemate before Ukr9nazis blew their load in their offensive :lmao

Now its a beatdown

[hater]

Fuck Ukraine!

:lmao

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You can also go back to the Tzar era. It's like a movie on a loop.

Though they came real handy in II., while you were doing the wet work at 30k, they was on the ground butchering Nazi's like ringin' a bell.

[Ef-man]

Hustling

https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1720108242120974757

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/Tendar/status/1720108062898290699

[Ef-man]

Sad, even the REMF is not even safe

https://x.com/RALee85/status/1720311241741144291

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1720197745804247096

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[Ef-man]

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[Ef-man]

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[velik_m]

https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1720463002858619367

[velik_m]

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1720436447369409007

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It's easy for Germany, Hitler made it that-a-way. German children don't have to go to the slaughters that American children have to go to. Why? One word...Hitler...

Isn't that weird, v? That it's sustained for over 80 years and that Americans don't even care, too busy, drinkin', boozin', dopin', buyin' shit.

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[Ef-man]

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[Ef-man]

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[Ef-man]

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[Ef-man]

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[Ef-man]

https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1720407942199967947

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1720093689178120652

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1720423342035886138

[Ef-man]

Days :lol

https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1719448975516770631

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[Ef-man]

Fucked around and found out

https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1720355269073371438

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/JimmySecUK/status/1719026821352542428

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[velik_m]

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1720856205063577620

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[Ef-man]

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[DMX7]

The leadership of Russia is accountable to OTHER leadership. The Ultranationalists are still enraged by the number of Russians getting slaughtered.
Prigohzin was just one example of how the leadership is still vulnerable. But this is not necessarily good for Ukraine. Could be if enough infighting keeps up and they keep tying themselves in knots.

Imo Ukraine is absolutely capable with the right weapons in number. The Russians are sending units in WITHOUT ANY WEAPONS. z UNITS they call them. This is a sophisticated war in the air, and more like WWI on the ground until Ukraine is given the goods. In any event Russia must be stopped. And they will be. They will not get Ukraine. Unless they just nuke it.
up. So disagree with the last sentence. Russia is accountable to authoritarian FACTIONS who have public support. This is very obvious.


I respect what you're saying -- I just don't think it's as complicated as that. Putin is the ultimate leader, and he doesn't appear to answer to anyone anymore. Those who disagree with him seem to go flying out of windows or share a similar fate. There's no room for dissent now. I think Russia used to be more like an oligarchy, but now it has been transformed into a straight up one man dictatorship.

Prigohzin was an exception given his role in Wagner. He always represented the best chance of a leadership change in Russia during the war. Now he is gone.

My biggest concern is that the unwillingness of Ukraine to even try to negotiate is going to end in disaster. F-16s, ATACMS and other stuff are being held up practically as wonder weapons. They are effective but they can't totally makeup for the deficit in manpower and other problems Ukraine is facing.

[ChumpDumper]

I respect what you're saying -- I just don't think it's as complicated as that. Putin is the ultimate leader, and he doesn't appear to answer to anyone anymore. Those who disagree with him seem to go flying out of windows or share a similar fate. There's no room for dissent now. I think Russia used to be more like an oligarchy, but now it has been transformed into a straight up one man dictatorship.

Prigohzin was an exception given his role in Wagner. He always represented the best chance of a leadership change in Russia during the war. Now he is gone.

My biggest concern is that the unwillingness of Ukraine to even try to negotiate is going to end in disaster. F-16s, ATACMS and other stuff are being held up practically as wonder weapons. They are effective but they can't totally makeup for the deficit in manpower and other problems Ukraine is facing.

Again, what makes you think Putin will follow the terms of any negotiated agreement?

[hater]

Again, what makes you think Putin will follow the terms of any negotiated agreement?

:lmao negotiated agreement

Ukraine is going to surrender unconditionally nig

Get with it :lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao negotiated agreement

Ukraine is going to surrender unconditionally nig

Get with it :lol:lmao you said Russia would never invade.

You said they would never use roads.

You said they would take Kyiv in 3-5 days.

You've been wrong about literally everything.:rollin

Does it hurt?

[hater]

:lmao you said Russia would never invade.

You said they would never use roads.

You said they would take Kyiv in 3-5 days.

You've been wrong about literally everything.:rollin

Does it hurt?

They are not using the roads dumbo :lmao

U still think they are fighting the war on the highways? :lmao retard

They are fighting in the fields and forests.. as I told u from the beginning


:lmao this idiot thought the war was gonna be fought on the highway :lmao

[hater]

They are not using the roads dumbo :lmao

U still think they are fighting the war on the highways? :lmao retard

They are fighting in the fields and forests.. as I told u from the beginning


:lmao this idiot thought the war was gonna be fought on the highway :lmao

"Lets take Interstate 395 we need to fight a battle at exit 62" :lmao :lmao :lmao idiot

[ChumpDumper]

They are not using the roads dumbo :lmao

U still think they are fighting the war on the highways? :lmao retard

They are fighting in the fields and forests.. as I told u from the beginning


:lmao this idiot thought the war was gonna be fought on the highway :lmao:lmao backtracking and trying to change your past

You said they would never use any roads.

We can tell this is hurting you.

[ChumpDumper]

"Lets take Interstate 395 we need to fight a battle at exit 62" :lmao :lmao :lmao idiot
https://images.axios.com/kj8aRwTsosOyx1CuXGu3RYB9Za0=/360x0:1390x1030/1920x1920/2022/03/01/1646099441802.jpg

:lmao you jerked off nonstop to your 40 mile convoy when you made your 3-5 day prediction.

[Ef-man]

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:lmao you jerked off nonstop to your 40 mile convoy when you made your 3-5 day prediction.

Gotheem!!!

:lol

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[Ef-man]

Crap russian military kit blown up, par

Ukraine likely destroyed 3 of Russia's prized S-400 missile systems worth $1.5 billion, weakening its air defenses, says UK intel

Ukraine has likely destroyed at least four Russian long-range air defense systems in the last week, weakening Russia's air defenses, the UK Department of Defense said in an intelligence update on Thursday.

These include three prized S-400 Triumf missile systems, which were destroyed in the Luhansk region on October 26, according to Russian media reports.

The loss of these prized systems means that Russia will likely have to replace them from other operational areas, weakening its air defenses there, the ministry noted.

Russia's S-400 long-range surface-to-air system is designed to shoot down aircraft and missiles at long ranges and high altitudes. It includes truck-mounted radars, a mobile command post, and multiple missile launch platforms.

Additional Russian air defense losses have been reported in Crimea by Ukrainian sources.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-likely-destroyed-3-russian-s-400-missile-systems (https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-likely-destroyed-3-russian-s-400-missile-systems-2023-11)

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[Ef-man]

All that effort just to run away.

https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1720873993593323943

[Ef-man]

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"NEVER SURRENDER!"

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1721135684293939373

[DMX7]

Again, what makes you think Putin will follow the terms of any negotiated agreement?

Because funding and/or fighting a grueling prolonged war, especially a stalemate, does not serve the interest of Ukraine, Russia or the US.

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/TrentTelenko/status/1720948643983720763

[ChumpDumper]

Because funding and/or fighting a grueling prolonged war, especially a stalemate, does not serve the interest of Ukraine, Russia or the US.

That doesn't answer my question.

[Thread]

Because funding and/or fighting a grueling prolonged war, especially a stalemate, does not serve the interest of Ukraine, Russia or the US.

As long as at the end of it Putin is sittin' on at least 1% of Nazi occupied Ukraine is all that matters to Dale. Z said no victory would be achieved unless Russia was out of Nazi occupied Ukraine 100%. And when Z loses that cocksucker, that motherfucker, that puke squattin' in the White House will have lost as well, that, that, that fuck.

[ElNono]

Because funding and/or fighting a grueling prolonged war, especially a stalemate, does not serve the interest of Ukraine, Russia or the US.

How does it not? It does for Ukraine, Europe and the US. The alternative is letting Russia win and let them continue invading and destabilizing Europe. How THAT helps Ukraine, Europe or the US interests???

[ElNono]

The only thing a stalemate does is make this a war of attrition and to see who's going to blink first. Bending over to Russia does absolutely nothing for Ukraine, Europe or the US.

[Thread]

How does it not? It does for Ukraine, Europe and the US. The alternative is letting Russia win and let them continue invading and destabilizing Europe. How THAT helps Ukraine, Europe or the US interests???

That's it!!! That's he one, that's it, that's the king of the impetus, El, not only for you and your group, but for me alone. I want to see Putin win, and daddy, Putin, if he retain's even an acre of it,,, a hole and two footsteps/aka Ukrainian toilet, bub, that's victory for me and frankly I could give 2 shits about beatin' Z, it's that fuck in the WH I want to see lose, El. Oh, motherfucker, you have nary idea I want to see that. Nary.

I could enter my house justified if I had that Joe-fuck in the lost column.

[Thread]

The only thing a stalemate does is make this a war of attrition and to see who's going to blink first. Bending over to Russia does absolutely nothing for Ukraine, Europe or the US.

He knows that, 7 knows that, 7 won't push all his cards in there, huh, El? tee, hee. Mine are in there. I want see Joe losePERIOD

& if I can keep Putin in there till 1.6.25 and get a change of President I'll have it, God willing and the Picketwire don't rise.

- "God please, I need it. Let the Suns break their cherry. Have said Suns go back-to-back, hell, another back,,,the triple, God, give 'em all three, but make Biden lose. Amen."

- Dale

[hater]

The only thing a stalemate does is make this a war of attrition and to see who's going to blink first. Bending over to Russia does absolutely nothing for Ukraine, Europe or the US.

:lmao if u wanna know what a lot of nothing is nigs

Just read this post :lmao

[hater]

Ce la vi

https://x.com/SprinterX99880/status/1721310110989860978

[Thread]

Ce la vi

https://x.com/SprinterX99880/status/1721310110989860978

Biden already told 'em/Libya that would not be tolerated. Build it and we shall see.

[hater]

:lmao

https://x.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1721273426445275285

[hater]

:lmao cocaine rage is one of the most amazing things when on video jigs :lmao :lmao :lmao

https://x.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1721271717467717966

[DMX7]

How does it not? It does for Ukraine, Europe and the US. The alternative is letting Russia win and let them continue invading and destabilizing Europe. How THAT helps Ukraine, Europe or the US interests???

No, there are other alternatives including Ukraine negotiating an end to the conflict even if it means accepting the reality of lost territory.

I don't buy this nonsense that if any concessions are made that Russia is going to invade NATO countries and kickoff World War III.

[DMX7]

https://x.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1721271717467717966

The full interview was absolutely terrible. It sounds like there is no plan at this point.

And now he thinks he knows better than his own top military commanding officer when he says the war is now NOT a stalemate.

[Thread]

:lmao

https://x.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1721273426445275285

"Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C." had an episode just like that.

[Thread]

The full interview was absolutely terrible. It sounds like there is no plan at this point.

And now he thinks he knows better than his own top military commanding officer when he says the war is now NOT a stalemate.

He ain't runnin' this and never has. Biden is runnin' itPERIOD

[Thread]

No, there are other alternatives including Ukraine negotiating an end to the conflict even if it means accepting the reality of lost territory.

[[[I don't buy this nonsense that if any concessions are made that Russia is going to invade NATO countries and kickoff World War III.]]]

Z could buy that till the cows come home, but Biden ain't gonna buy it for Z. No sir. That would be victory, not for Russia, but for Putin and Biden can't do that now. He's in way too deep to fudge it now. The only thing that would change that dynamic is a regime change here in the States a year from now. If Biden wins, he'll carry on in Nazi occupied Ukraine like ringin' a bell. If a Republican wins Putin wins and like thousands of advisers come home, flat eared and 100% tight-lipped that they ain't gonna get no more of that extra pay w/fat per diem they been getting for 3 years...tee, hee.

[Thread]

:lmao cocaine rage is one of the most amazing things when on video jigs :lmao :lmao :lmao

https://x.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1721271717467717966

I'm shocked that MSNBC's Meet The Press would release this.

[Ef-man]

Yam Tits being called out and bends the knee. :lol

Volodymyr Zelensky invited U.S. presidential candidate Yam Tits to Ukraine during an interview with NBC News on Nov. 5.

Responding to Yam Tits’ claim that he could end Russia’s war in Ukraine in 24 hours, Zelensky said he would prove to the former U.S. president that he couldn’t.

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"NEVER SURRENDER!"

[FrostKing]

Yam Tits being called out and bends the knee. :lol

Volodymyr Zelensky invited U.S. presidential candidate Yam Tits to Ukraine during an interview with NBC News on Nov. 5.

Responding to Yam Tits’ claim that he could end Russia’s war in Ukraine in 24 hours, Zelensky said he would prove to the former U.S. president that he couldn’t.

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I like Ukranians. I'm tired of Zelenskyy.

Ukranians have a reputation in Europe of running their mouths and he illustrates it. I get it they are one of the newest Slavics.

[ChumpDumper]

Tiresome.

[FrostKing]

Emotional.

[ChumpDumper]

Emotional.How is finding your droning about about muh ethnicity tiresome emotional?

Explain.

I mean if you think that then you definitely consider yourself emotional about Zelenskyy.:lol

[FrostKing]

How is finding your droning about about muh ethnicity tiresome emotional?

Explain.

I mean if you think that then you definitely consider yourself emotional about Zelenskyy.:lol
First of all, it's true. Secondly I'm offering a fresh take in an otherwise stale echo chamber.

[ChumpDumper]

First of all, it's true. Secondly I'm offering a fresh take in an otherwise stale echo chamber.OK. You're offering your fresh emotional take.:tu

[FrostKing]

OK. You're offering your fresh emotional take.:tu
It would be refreshing if you shared a take for once. You're permanently in argumentative mode.

[hater]

It would be refreshing if you shared a take for once. You're permanently in argumentative mode.

:lmao

[velik_m]

I like Ukranians. I'm tired of Zelenskyy.

Ukranians have a reputation in Europe of running their mouths and he illustrates it. I get it they are one of the newest Slavics.

You're pathetic. There is no such reputation in Europe for Ukrainians and Ukrainians are the OG Slavs,

[ChumpDumper]

It would be refreshing if you shared a take for once. You're permanently in argumentative mode.

It would be refreshing if you didn't project your insecurity every time you post a take. You're permanently in overcompensation mode.

[FrostKing]

You're pathetic. There is no such reputation in Europe for Ukrainians and Ukrainians are the OG Slavs,
Don't be upset. Polaks held the same reputation at one point. Slavic initiation :lol

[Thread]

It would be refreshing if you shared a take for once. You're permanently in argumentative mode.

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[velik_m]

Don't be upset. Polaks held the same reputation at one point. Slavic initiation :lol

Nah, you're just full of shit.

[Thread]

Nah, you're just full of shit.

I'll be jiggered, look a v, easin' on down into the mud, blood and do-do with the rest of us. Damn, v, you was on high all this time and finally have now eased.

Welcome, this is coffee break time though, pretty soon it'll be "Coffee break over, back on your fuckin' heads!"

[ChumpDumper]

Nah, you're just full of shit.

:lol he just makes up the stupidest things possible

[Thread]

:lol he just makes up the stupidest things possible


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"NEVER SURRENDER!"

[ElNono]

:lmao if u wanna know what a lot of nothing is nigs

Just read this post :lmao

Still batting .000 ITT... :lmao:lmao

[ElNono]

No, there are other alternatives including Ukraine negotiating an end to the conflict even if it means accepting the reality of lost territory.

I don't buy this nonsense that if any concessions are made that Russia is going to invade NATO countries and kickoff World War III.

You make it sound like Russia isn't knee deep in Moldova and can be a trusted partner to any negotiations. This is very uninformed and naive view.

They're already sending memos to Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan as well not to talk to the West. Because you "don't buy it" it doesn't mean the geopolitical implications are not there.

It automatically means there's no deterrent to Russia. I suspect you want to lift sanctions as well?

[Thread]

You make it sound like Russia isn't knee deep in Moldova and can be a trusted partner to any negotiations. This is very uninformed and naive view.

They're already sending memos to Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan as well not to talk to the West. Because you "don't buy it" it doesn't mean the geopolitical implications are not there.

It automatically means there's no deterrent to Russia. I suspect you want to lift sanctions as well?

& not too long ago Putin was the White House a singin' & a dancin' to beat the band.

tee, hee.

[hater]

& not too long ago Putin was the White House a singin' & a dancin' to beat the band.

tee, hee.

:lmao

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[Ef-man]

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1721259728167141436

[Ef-man]

Ship fucked around and found out as it forgot to get the fuck out of Ukraine. :lol

https://x.com/TrentTelenko/status/1721584903219716575

[ElNono]

Kimdotcom:lmao
Steven Seagal:lmao
Roger Waters:lmao
hater's sources:lmao


:lmao

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[Ef-man]

https://x.com/TrentTelenko/status/1721240673725079973

[Ef-man]

Boom!!!

https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1721597082774175904

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"NEVER SURRENDER!"

[ChumpDumper]

Boom!!!

https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1721597082774175904

The Russians admit a ship was hit.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-hits-shipyard-crimeas-kerch-damages-ship-russian-defence-ministry-2023-11-04/

[Thread]

The Russians admit a ship was hit.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-hits-shipyard-crimeas-kerch-damages-ship-russian-defence-ministry-2023-11-04/

With a death grip on that 20%, Dumper.

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"NEVER SURRENDER!"

[DMX7]

You make it sound like Russia isn't knee deep in Moldova and can be a trusted partner to any negotiations. This is very uninformed and naive view.

They're already sending memos to Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan as well not to talk to the West. Because you "don't buy it" it doesn't mean the geopolitical implications are not there.

It automatically means there's no deterrent to Russia. I suspect you want to lift sanctions as well?

No, I don't want to lift sanctions without something in return. The powerful sanctions imposed now should have been imposed a long time ago.

I would use sanction relief, along with other things, as one bargaining chip.

[velik_m]

https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1721505320365695000

[ChumpDumper]

No, I don't want to lift sanctions without something in return. The powerful sanctions imposed now should have been imposed a long time ago.

I would use sanction relief, along with other things, as one bargaining chip.:lol What do you want in return? You want to just give them most of Ukraine.

[Thread]

:lol What do you want in return? You want to just give them most of Ukraine.

Well, daddy, Putin already has 20% of that damn Nazi infested thing. Let Russia do the clean-up like back in '43. Eviscerated those Nazi's then. America didn't have stomach for it. America operated at 30k, on the little Yellow people. When after Little Boy they persisted Harry S. hit 'em: "Again." with Big John.

I know you---you sideshow lookin' hump, you. You could give 2 shits about Ukr. 2 shits about Z. You want Biden to win. That's it & that's all. I understand you, Dumper. I want to see that motherfucker Biden have to eat the whole fuckin' 12-incher. And I want it bad. I'd trade all my 17, throw in the next 17 for the Suns, and my right arm for it.

Let us proceed...

[DMX7]

:lol What do you want in return? You want to just give them most of Ukraine.

They occupy about 15% of Ukraine. Your emotions seem to get in the way of facts. :lol

[Thread]

They occupy about 15% of Ukraine. Your emotions seem to get in the way of facts. :lol

CNN is reporting 20%.

[ChumpDumper]

They occupy about 15% of Ukraine. Your emotions seem to get in the way of facts. :lolYou absolutely would be fine with Russia's annexing all of Ukraine.

Are you counting what they had already taken?

Back to your emotional avoidance:

What do you want in return for lifting sanctions?

Give us your facts.

[hater]

They occupy about 15% of Ukraine. Your emotions seem to get in the way of facts. :lol

:lmao

Chimp :lol

[hater]

With a death grip on that 20%, Dumper.

:lmao

[hater]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

https://x.com/DagnyTaggart963/status/1721613299299590521

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao

Chimp :lol


:lmao

You predicted Russia would take 100% of Ukraine in 3-5 days.

:rollin

:lol fellater

[Thread]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

https://x.com/DagnyTaggart963/status/1721613299299590521

hater, look at him, by God, you're glorious, hater!!! Though I ain't droppin' a mic on this one. I'm having it gold plated at the K-Mart jewelry counter. I'll bill ya.

hater!!!.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

https://x.com/DagnyTaggart963/status/1721613299299590521

The end of what?

Make another prediction.:lmao

[Thread]

You absolutely would be fine with Russia's annexing all of Ukraine.

Are you counting what they had already taken?

Back to your emotional avoidance:

What do you want in return for lifting sanctions?

Give us your facts.

Look at Dumps! Straightening up and flying right with 7. You look pisser, Dumper, you little squirt, you. All dressed up and on the town. Hey, Dumper! Get your fuckin' shine box!!!

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1721459073881641267

[hater]

You predicted Russia would take 100% of Ukraine in 3-5 days.

:rollin

:lol fellater

Fake news I never said Russia would conquer 100% naziland

They were supposed to negotiate to stay neutral and sign the papers. Then they woulda kept their country.

Now. Too late. Ce la vi

[Ef-man]

Hater with the flip-flopping and backtracking. :lmao

Kupiansk in days, calling it now! :lmao

He is batting 0.000 ITT

[ChumpDumper]

Fake news I never said Russia would conquer 100% naziland

They were supposed to negotiate to stay neutral and sign the papers. Then they woulda kept their country.

Now. Too late. Ce la vi:lmao supposed to according to whom?

Someone else you made up?

Dagny?

Kimdotcom?

:lol fellater

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NARY ELECTION IN UKRAINE THIS YEAR! Nary.
Though America ain't much better.
2016: Americans threatened to blow him up, cut his head off, and shoot President Trump to death.

2020: Americans stormed the castle to pay back 2016 for threatening to blow up, decapitate and shoot to death the winner President Trump.

American Democracy, my ass!

[Ef-man]

:lmao supposed to according to whom?

Someone else you made up?

Dagny?

Kimdotcom?

:lol fellater

Gotheem!!!

[daboom1]

Look at Dumps! Straightening up and flying right with 7. You look pisser, Dumper, you little squirt, you. All dressed up and on the town. Hey, Dumper! Get your fuckin' shine box!!!

Chop-chop.

[daboom1]

Gotheem!!!

lmemulatedao!!!

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1721643658603098415

[Thread]

NARY ELECTION IN UKRAINE THIS YEAR! Nary.
Though America ain't much better.
2016: Americans threatened to blow him up, cut his head off, and shoot President Trump to death.

2020: Americans stormed the castle to pay back 2016 for threatening to blow up, decapitate and shoot to death the winner President Trump.

American Democracy, my ass!

[hater]

:lmao supposed to according to whom?

Someone else you made up?

Dagny?

Kimdotcom?

:lol fellater

The negotiations that took place last year in Belarus and Turkey

Dumb cunt :lmao

Those did happen and Ukraine wqs to remain neutral, sign the dotted line and keep.their land

Now they will still sign the dotted line, but bye bye land :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

The negotiations that took place last year in Belarus and Turkey

Dumb cunt :lmao

Those did happen and Ukraine wqs to remain neutral, sign the dotted line and keep.their land

Now they will still sign the dotted line, but bye bye land :lmaoShow your link or fold and fellate.

[daboom1]

NARY ELECTION IN UKRAINE THIS YEAR! Nary.
Though America ain't much better.
2016: Americans threatened to blow him up, cut his head off, and shoot President Trump to death.

2020: Americans stormed the castle to pay back 2016 for threatening to blow up, decapitate and shoot to death the winner President Trump.

American Democracy, my ass!


^^^^^^

[Ef-man]

Show your link or fold and fellate.

Hater will get back to you in "days." :lol

[hater]

Show your link or fold and fellate.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_negotiations_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukra ine


:lmao :lmao

Chimp buttfucked once again :lol

[ChumpDumper]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_negotiations_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukra ine


:lmao :lmao

Chimp buttfucked once again :lol

:lmao after the invasion began?

"supp:crysed t:cry" :lmao

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao fellater

[Thread]

NARY ELECTION IN UKRAINE THIS YEAR! Nary.
Though America ain't much better.
2016: Americans threatened to blow him up, cut his head off, and shoot President Trump to death.

2020: Americans stormed the castle to pay back 2016 for threatening to blow up, decapitate and shoot to death the winner President Trump.

American Democracy, my ass!

[Ef-man]

:lmao after the invasion began?

"supp:crysed t:cry" :lmao

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao fellater

:lol

[Thread]

NARY ELECTION IN UKRAINE THIS YEAR! Nary.
Though America ain't much better.
2016: Americans threatened to blow him up, cut his head off, and shoot President Trump to death.

2020: Americans stormed the castle to pay back 2016 for threatening to blow up, decapitate and shoot to death the winner President Trump.

American Democracy, my ass!

[hater]

:lmao after the jnvasion?

Yup

:lmao chimp :lmao

Buttfucked again

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1721341264371593577

[Ef-man]

Preach!!!
https://x.com/saintjavelin/status/1721212269722300805

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1721572834491678922

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1721566190064070731

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1721519700964683901

[Thread]

NARY ELECTION IN UKRAINE THIS YEAR! Nary.
Though America ain't much better.
2016: Americans threatened to blow him up, cut his head off, and shoot President Trump to death.

2020: Americans stormed the castle to pay back 2016 for threatening to blow up, decapitate and shoot to death the winner President Trump.

American Democracy, my ass!

[ChumpDumper]

Yup

:lmao chimp :lmao

Buttfucked againSo you made your 3-5 day prediction after the first talks already broke down and the next ones hadn't even started.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao fellater

[hater]

So you made your 3-5 day prediction after the first talks already broke down and the next ones hadn't

Fake news

The talks happened when Russia has troops around Kiev. Then they retreated as show of good faith as Ukraine was gonna sign on dotted line

Then Ukraine reneged after Bojo visited Kiev


:lmao chimps asshole getting a streching :lmao

Ur ass is loose niga. D9 some pallates of someshit :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Fake news

The talks happened when Russia has troops around Kiev. Then they retreated as show of good faith as Ukraine was gonna sign on dotted line

Then Ukraine reneged after Bojo visited Kiev


:lmao chimps asshole getting a streching :lmao

Ur ass is loose niga. D9 some pallates of someshit :lmao
:lmao that's not what your link says.

Is the link you sent lying or are you lying?

It's one or the other.

[Ef-man]

Fake news

The talks happened when Russia has troops around Kiev. Then they retreated as show of good faith as Ukraine was gonna sign on dotted line

Then Ukraine reneged after Bojo visited Kiev


:lmao chimps asshole getting a streching :lmao

Ur ass is loose niga. D9 some pallates of someshit :lmao


They retreated as a sign of good faith. :lmao :lmao :lmao

What a retard take!!!!

WTF are you taking?

[ElNono]

No, I don't want to lift sanctions without something in return. The powerful sanctions imposed now should have been imposed a long time ago.

I would use sanction relief, along with other things, as one bargaining chip.

I don't think there's any agreement that Russia will partake in which doesn't include easing or removal of sanctions, tbh. I could be wrong.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao g:lol:lold faith

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I don't think there's any agreement that Russia will partake in which doesn't include easing or removal of sanctions, tbh. I could be wrong.

I don't believe that Putin gives a shit about the sanctions. What, he didn't know that was going to be heaved at him? He didn't know 50 countries would line up to battle him? Once NATO gets holt of Ukr he can't get it at it. It's now, or, never.

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[hater]

I don't believe that Putin gives a shit about the sanctions. What, he didn't know that was going to be heaved at him? He didn't know 50 countries would line up to battle him? Once NATO gets holt of Ukr he can't get it at it. It's now, or, never.

:tu

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[Ef-man]

:lmao g:lol:lold faith

fellater digs himself in deeper

Poor fella :lol

[DMX7]

You absolutely would be fine with Russia's annexing all of Ukraine.

Are you counting what they had already taken?

Back to your emotional avoidance:

What do you want in return for lifting sanctions?

Give us your facts.

I'm not fine with Russia annexing all of Ukraine. I don't know where you even get this from. :lol

What we need is a negotiated end to the war. If it goes on long enough then Ukraine could end up collapsing. Russia is proving they can outlast them.

So use sanctions relief (if that's what it takes) and whatever else as leverage to get a negotiated settlement, with the threat of a snap back of sanctions and other stuff to help enforce it.

[hater]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

"Ill suck ya deeeck!!!"

https://x.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1721627984602288327

[hater]

I'm not fine with Russia annexing all of Ukraine. I don't know where you even get this from. :lol

What we need is a negotiated end to the war. If it goes on long enough then Ukraine could end up collapsing. Russia is proving they can outlast them.

So use sanctions relief (if that's what it takes) and whatever else as leverage to get a negotiated settlement, with the threat of a snap back of sanctions and other stuff to help enforce it.

Russia doesnt want the Nazi part of western Ukraine tbqh. Who would want that shithole lol

They dont even want Kiev. A city of about 3 million.

They will take Karkhiv and Odessa if need be. Up to the Kokamedian and how soon he will sign on the dotted line.

[DMX7]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

https://x.com/DagnyTaggart963/status/1721613299299590521

If this is for real then prepare to hear Russian propaganda next year about how Russia is holding a presidential election and Ukraine is not.

I suspect the West will try to pressure Zelesnky into reversing this position.

[ElNono]

If this is for real then prepare to hear Russian propaganda next year about how Russia is holding a presidential election and Ukraine is not.

I suspect the West will try to pressure Zelesnky into reversing this position.

Who's running against Putler? People in jail don't count.

[daboom1]

NARY ELECTION IN UKRAINE THIS YEAR! Nary.
Though America ain't much better.
2016: Americans threatened to blow him up, cut his head off, and shoot President Trump to death.

2020: Americans stormed the castle to pay back 2016 for threatening to blow up, decapitate and shoot to death the winner President Trump.

American Democracy, my ass!

Effy thinks it's fantastic.

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If this is for real then prepare to hear Russian propaganda next year about how Russia is holding a presidential election and Ukraine is not.

I suspect the West will try to pressure Zelesnky into reversing this position.

No, it won't be "pressure," it'll be a directive:::"You're having an election, Z, just don't try and bomb him, cut his head off, or, shoot him like we do over here in America." - Biden

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Who's running against Putler? People in jail don't count.

Who was running against Clinton? Trump. Trump won. On Trump's first day in office America threatened to bomb him, his wife and their only child as they fixed to move into the White House.

All these fucking years of indicting Russia and they ain't nowhere near our shit, El. Fuckin' nerve of this country.

American Democracy, my ass.

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[ChumpDumper]

I'm not fine with Russia annexing all of Ukraine. I don't know where you even get this from. :lol

What we need is a negotiated end to the war. If it goes on long enough then Ukraine could end up collapsing. Russia is proving they can outlast them.

So use sanctions relief (if that's what it takes) and whatever else as leverage to get a negotiated settlement, with the threat of a snap back of sanctions and other stuff to help enforce it.
So later when Putin ignores whatever terms you wanted, what are you prepared to do?

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[hater]

Who was running against Clinton? Trump. Trump won. On Trump's first day in office America threatened to bomb him, his wife and their only child as they fixed to move into the White House.

All these fucking years of indicting Russia and they ain't nowhere near our shit, El. Fuckin' nerve of this country.

American Democracy, my ass.

:wow

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[hater]

:lmao

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1721796384347558205

[hater]

So later when Putin ignores whatever terms you wanted, what are you prepared to do?

Putin is ignoring your terms now. Clown :lol

[hater]

:lol

:rollin

https://x.com/auwerl_serlies/status/1721798201965973726

[DMX7]

So later when Putin ignores whatever terms you wanted, what are you prepared to do?

We don't know that he will ignore the terms.

If the terms align interests well enough, there will be little incentive to violate them as the cost would outweigh the benefit of doing so.

[DMX7]

:lmao

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1721796384347558205

Almost all of the financial support we gave Ukraine already should have been in the form of credit, not gifts.

Our country is just mind-blowingly financially irresponsible.

[Ef-man]

Worth every penny of US $$$$

https://x.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1720194072361521447

[hater]

Almost all of the financial support we gave Ukraine already should have been in the form of credit, not gifts.

Our country is just mind-blowingly financially irresponsible.

I think kokamedian meant:

"Ok if you dont want to give us free money anymore. Give it to us on credit!"

[hater]

Worth every penny of US $$$$

https://x.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1720194072361521447

Lol Lyndsey Graham talking points :lmao

Todays "lefties" :lmao

[hater]

Kokamedian blowing up his people now

He really believes hes a living breathing real life Tony Montana :lmao

https://x.com/narrative_hole/status/1721604289011851698

[DMX7]

I think kokamedian meant:

"Ok if you dont want to give us free money anymore. Give it to us on credit!"

That is what Zelensky meant. I’m saying we never should have been giving this amount of free money.

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Kokamedian blowing up his people now

He really believes hes a living breathing real life Tony Montana :lmao

https://x.com/narrative_hole/status/1721604289011851698

That's what they threatened to do to President Trump, his wife and their child when they moved into the White House.

Nazi occupied Ukraine/The USA...6 of 1, half dozen of the other.

American Democracy, ha!

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That is what Zelensky meant. I’m saying we never should have been giving this amount of free money.

Afuckin'men!!!

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Almost all of the financial support we gave Ukraine already should have been in the form of credit, not gifts.

Our country is just mind-blowingly financially irresponsible.

And that fuck Biden is in charge. That fuck.

[ChumpDumper]

Putin is ignoring your terms now. Clown :lol
I didn't post any terms.

I'm sorry your own predictions have destroyed you.:lol

[ChumpDumper]

We don't know that he will ignore the terms.

If the terms align interests well enough, there will be little incentive to violate them as the cost would outweigh the benefit of doing so.What is the cost in your scenario? What is the benefit?

You're not actually saying anything.

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[DMX7]

What is the cost in your scenario? What is the benefit?

You're not actually saying anything.

The cost is more casualties, more sanctions, and more money spent on a war for Russia. The benefit is maybe taking some more land. It's not complicated.

I don't think Russia wants a prolonged war. They want to end it and consolidate their gains.

Ukraine doesn't want it to to end if means losing any territory. That thinking needs to change.

[ChumpDumper]

The cost is more casualties, more sanctions, and more money spent on a war for Russia.:lol that's all being done right now. You speak in such vague terms that it's meaningless -- of course peace could be had by all if both parties did...something....:lol


I don't think Russia wants a prolonged war. They want to end it and consolidate their gains.

Ukraine doesn't want it to to end if means losing any territory. That thinking needs to change.So Russia doesn't need to change but Ukraine does.

This is why people can only conclude you are pro-Russia.

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:lol that's all being done right now. You speak in such vague terms that it's meaningless -- of course peace could be had by all if both parties did...something....:lol

So Russia doesn't need to change but Ukraine does.

This is why people can only conclude you are pro-Russia.

...I'm pro-Russia!!! I want Putin to clean the plow on Biden, buster. Yep, that's me.

[DMX7]

:lol that's all being done right now. You speak in such vague terms that it's meaningless -- of course peace could be had by all if both parties did...something....:lol

So Russia doesn't need to change but Ukraine does.

This is why people can only conclude you are pro-Russia.

Russia should change, they don't have to. Big difference.

This "pro-Russia" line is empty criticism. It's like saying the Fins were "Pro-Soviet Union" when they agreed to a peace deal to conclude the 1939-1940 Winter War (because they lost territory).

It's a hyper emotional take to say that anyone who doesn't think we must spend unlimited resources to reclaim all territory for Ukraine is "pro-Russia".

It's like you're a child throwing a temper tantrum.

[ChumpDumper]

Russia should change, they don't have to. Big difference.

This "pro-Russia" line is empty criticism. It's like saying the Fins were "Pro-Soviet Union" when they agreed to a peace deal to conclude the 1939-1940 Winter War (because they lost territory).

It's a hyper emotional take to say that anyone who doesn't think we must spend unlimited resources to reclaim all territory for Ukraine is "pro-Russia".

It's like you're a child throwing a temper tantrum.Calm down. You're getting very emotional in your defense or everything Russia is doing.

How is supporting Ukraine hurting you personally? The US in general?

[DMX7]

Calm down. You're getting very emotional in your defense or everything Russia is doing.

How is supporting Ukraine hurting you personally? The US in general?

What you write is an example of psychological projection. Again, I don't defend everything Russia. You have serious issues if you can't understand this.

The war is a massive cost among many other massive costs our country incurs that it can't really afford. This is a financial ticking time bomb being given to the next generation.

[ChumpDumper]

What you write is an example of psychological projection. Again, I don't defend everything Russia. You have serious issues if you can't understand this. You haven't really posted anything against Russia -- certainly not as forcefully as you have against Ukraine.


The war is a massive cost among many other massive costs our country incurs that it can't afford. This is a financial ticking time bomb being given to the next generation.That's what the last four generations said.

Raise taxes on the rich back to where they were before Bush and Trump blew up your debt. I'm sure you voted for both.

In general, this is money well spent.

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What you write is an example of psychological projection. Again, I don't defend everything Russia. You have serious issues if you can't understand this.

The war is a massive cost among many other massive costs our country incurs that it can't really afford. This is a financial ticking time bomb being given to the next generation.

...(you) said that 3 next generations ago. Nothing has changed in the regimen. Nary a thing. Nothing. I got to see "a financial tick time bomb" explode before I buy any of it.

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You haven't really posted anything against Russia -- certainly not as forcefully as you have against Ukraine.

That's what the last four generations said.

Raise taxes on the rich back to where they were before Bush and Trump blew up your debt. I'm sure you voted for both.

In general, this is money well spent.


...(you) said that 3 next generations ago. Nothing has changed in the regimen. Nary a thing. Nothing. I got to see "a financial tick time bomb" explode before I buy any of it.

Me & Dumps on the same wavelength.

tee, hee.

[DMX7]

You haven't really posted anything against Russia -- certainly not as forcefully as you have against Ukraine.

That's what the last four generations said.

Raise taxes on the rich back to where they were before Bush and Trump blew up your debt. I'm sure you voted for both.

In general, this is money well spent.

I've condemned Russia many times. Your brain must switch off when reading it because you don't want to believe it I guess.

I was too young to vote for Bush, but I've called Bush the worst president in the history of the country (while he was president and still).

I have not and will not vote for Trump, so you can sleep well at night since this is so important to you.

[ChumpDumper]

I've condemned Russia many times. Your brain must switch off when reading it because you don't want to believe it I guess.

I was too young to vote for Bush, but I've called Bush the worst president in the history of the country (while he was president and still).

I have not and will not vote for Trump, so you can sleep well at night since this is so important to you.

Were the tax cuts good or bad?

[DMX7]

Were the tax cuts good or bad?

Bad for the financial health of the country.

By the way, I won't forgive Biden or Bush for the Iraq War. What a historic disaster.

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[hater]

I didn't post any terms.


And you dont need to as Putin will shit on them :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

And you dont need to as Putin will shit on them :lmaoYes, you agree Putin will break any agreement he enters.:tu

[Ef-man]

Days :lol

https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1721553841026629829

[Ef-man]

Hater is ready to call Kupyansk


The Russians will take Kupyansk in a few days.


Calling it now....

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Hater is ready to call Kupyansk


The Russians will take Kupyansk in a few days.


Calling it now....

:lmao August 10

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[velik_m]

Bad for the financial health of the country.

By the way, I won't forgive Biden or Bush for the Iraq War. What a historic disaster.

You're being penny wise and pound foolish.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=298542&page=1271&p=10943833&viewfull=1#post10943833

As for treaties with Russia:


Russian–Ukrainian Friendship Treaty

The Treaty on Friendship, Cooperation, and Partnership between Ukraine and the Russian Federation was an agreement between Ukraine and Russia, signed in 1997, which fixed the principle of strategic partnership, the recognition of the inviolability of existing borders, and respect for territorial integrity and mutual commitment not to use its territory to harm the security of each other. The treaty prevents Ukraine and Russia from invading one another's country respectively, and declaring war.[2] Due to the beginning of the Russo-Ukrainian War in 2014, Ukraine announced its intention not to renew the treaty in September 2018.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian%E2%80%93Ukrainian_Friendship_Treaty

[velik_m]

China Removes Russian Firms From Airliner Project

Beijing has quietly dropped Russian firms from its project to build a new intercontinental widebody airliner following multiple delays caused by Western sanctions against the Kremlin.

Moscow had hoped to cooperate with China to build its first wide-body airliner since the Soviet era, using Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation as the leader in its part of the project.

It was expected that the CR929 airliner, jointly built by China and Russia, would compete with intercontinental aircraft manufactured by Boeing and Airbus with between 250 to 350 seats and a 12,000 km range.

The project has encountered repeated setbacks on the Russian side because Moscow’s aerospace industry has been heavily sanctioned following Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

Now, according to the South China Morning Post, China has finally excluded Russian partners from the C929 airliner project.

The CR929 model designation was supposed to represent the countries participating in the project (C – China; R – Russia). However, China has already removed R from the name, promoting the plane as the C929.

The Chinese developer of the airliner – Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (COMAC) – no longer mentions Russia as a participant in the project and is promoting the aircraft as an exclusively Chinese development.

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https://www.kyivpost.com/post/23785

[DMX7]

You're being penny wise and pound foolish.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=298542&page=1271&p=10943833&viewfull=1#post10943833

As for treaties with Russia:



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The bulk of what we're giving is not old stuff sitting in storage now. This is stupid. This idea that the newer stuff we're giving needs "testing" and so should also be given is also stupid because most of the newer stuff is tested already. We're also paying billions in financial aid just to keep the economy and government of Ukraine afloat. There is no path to victory for them if we define victory as the total reclamation of all territory lost. Even some in Ukraine are beginning to realize this, but clearly not Zelensky or you.

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The bulk of what we're giving is not old stuff sitting in storage now. This is stupid. This idea that the newer stuff we're giving needs "testing" and so should also be given is also stupid because most of the newer stuff is tested already. We're also paying billions in financial aid just to keep the economy and government of Ukraine afloat. There is no path to victory for them if we define victory as the total reclamation of all territory lost. Even some in Ukraine are beginning to realize this, but clearly not Zelensky or you.

Well, bub, that's how we're going to (define) it. That was the standard at the first, and I bronzed it on-the-spot to make damn sure you couldn't revise it to suit your shit. And we ain't changing. That's the linePERIOD

[velik_m]

The bulk of what we're giving is not old stuff sitting in storage now. This is stupid. This idea that the newer stuff we're giving needs "testing" and so should also be given is also stupid because most of the newer stuff is tested already. We're also paying billions in financial aid just to keep the economy and government of Ukraine afloat. There is no path to victory for them if we define victory as the total reclamation of all territory lost. Even some in Ukraine are beginning to realize this, but clearly not Zelensky or you.

25 billion committed for financial aid to Ukraine so far is peanuts, the EU committed three times that. After fall of USSR USA lowered spending on defense from 5% to 3%, it's still bellow 4% now. A peace dividend after Russia fails will cover any short term expenses for USA and then some. It's an investment - sometimes you have to spend some money to make money. And this is as cheap of investment you can make, with basically no downsides. Every Russian tank, plane and ship Ukraine blows up is one less peace of hardware USA needs to worry about.

https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/military-spending-defense-budget

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25 billion committed for financial aid to Ukraine so far is peanuts, the EU committed three times that. After fall of USSR USA lowered spending on defense from 5% to 3%, it's still bellow 4% now. A peace dividend after Russia fails will cover any short term expenses for USA and then some. It's an investment - sometimes you have to spend some money to make money. And this is as cheap of investment you can make, with basically no downsides. Every Russian tank, plane and ship Ukraine blows up is one less peace of hardware USA needs to worry about.

https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/


https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/military-spending-defense-budget

Then...

Let us proceed...

[ElNono]

The bulk of what we're giving is not old stuff sitting in storage now. This is stupid. This idea that the newer stuff we're giving needs "testing" and so should also be given is also stupid because most of the newer stuff is tested already. We're also paying billions in financial aid just to keep the economy and government of Ukraine afloat. There is no path to victory for them if we define victory as the total reclamation of all territory lost. Even some in Ukraine are beginning to realize this, but clearly not Zelensky or you.

We're also making a lot of money with things like LNG exports though (https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=55920). Something that will disappear as soon as Russia is allowed to export energy back to Europe.

I can't see Russia agreeing to anything if sanctions like that are not lifted, this is why this conversation is largely academic.

[DMX7]

We're also making a lot of money with things like LNG exports though (https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=55920). Something that will disappear as soon as Russia is allowed to export energy back to Europe.

I can't see Russia agreeing to anything if sanctions like that are not lifted, this is why this conversation is largely academic.

LNG exports to Europe won't disappear simply because of lifted sanctions. Changes in the energy market taking place in Europe are structural. Europe is diversifying its sources of energy regardless of the future relationship with Russia.

For example, see the latest massive gas deal signed with Qatar.


Qatar has agreed to supply Shell in the Netherlands with gas for 27 years, the second such deal with a European buyer in a week, as the Gulf state competes with the United States to help Europe replace lost Russian supplies.

Shell's agreement is identical to a TotalEnergies deal last week with QatarEnergy to supply France. Both are Qatar's biggest and longest gas supply deals with Europe.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/qatarenergy-shell-agree-27-year-lng-supply-2023-10-18/

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[ElNono]

LNG exports to Europe won't disappear simply because of lifted sanctions. Changes in the energy market taking place in Europe are structural. Europe is diversifying its sources of energy regardless of the future relationship with Russia.

For example, see the latest massive gas deal signed with Qatar.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/qatarenergy-shell-agree-27-year-lng-supply-2023-10-18/

It's simple economics. If there's nothing stopping Europe from acquiring Russian oil products (in this case, sanctions), they'll just get the gas/oil where it's cheaper, which is Russia, due to simple logistics.

Oil was 40% of Russia's entire economic output before the war. There's no way they agree to anything without those sanctions lifted.

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It's simple economics. If there's nothing stopping Europe from acquiring Russian oil products (in this case, sanctions), they'll just get the gas/oil where it's cheaper, which is Russia, due to simple logistics.

Oil was 40% of Russia's entire economic output before the war. There's no way they agree to anything without those sanctions lifted.

...they don't care about the sanctions, El. This is their last chance to get Ukr. Once NATO marries Ukr---Russia is SOL.

[Ef-man]

:lmao August 10

Am sure Hater will also throw in that the russians will capture some US/NATO generals in the biolabs in Kupyansk!

He is so gullible. :lmao

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[velik_m]

The Christian Pastor Taken POW and Tortured by Russia

Viktor tells his harrowing tale of how he was tortured for his faith and why the Kremlin has a particular hatred of American protestants and evangelicals.

Russia has sought to portray itself as a strong Christian society standing up to the liberalism and "woke-ism" of the West. However, Viktor Cherniiavskyi was an Evangelical pastor, volunteering with the Ukrainian military in 2014 when he was arrested in Luhansk, Ukraine by Russian troops. Viktor tells his harrowing tale of how he was tortured for his faith and why the Kremlin has a particular hatred of American protestants and evangelicals.

Video: https://www.kyivpost.com/videos/23681

[velik_m]

https://twitter.com/UKikaski/status/1721918278287732935

https://twitter.com/GloOouD/status/1722012768017006958

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Video: https://www.kyivpost.com/videos/23681

President Trump has been done likewise, v, right here in America. His life and the lives of his family threatened by bombing. President Trump threatened with decapitation and being gunned down repeatedly in the street. All because he made the highest rank in the land, President. Now, he's being paraded thru the kangaroo court system in a gross march thru the country in crucifixion.

[velik_m]

Russia’s Second Front in Europe

The West Must Stop Putin From Provoking Conflict in the Balkans

In late September, Serbia deployed advanced weapons to its border with Kosovo, in what amounted to one of the largest Serbian military buildups since the end of the Kosovo war nearly a quarter century ago. In the United States, a spokesman for the National Security Council called it “an unprecedented staging of advanced Serbian artillery, tanks, and mechanized infantry units.” U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken called Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic to demand an “immediate de-escalation.”

Although the buildup was largely overlooked by Western media at the time—and has since been forgotten amid the outbreak of war between Israel and Hamas—it is part of an alarming development in the Balkans. The immediate pretext for the Serbian mobilization was months of unrest between Kosovo and Serbia, which have maintained a fragile peace ever since a NATO bombing campaign helped Kosovo win de facto independence from Belgrade in the 1998–99 war. In May, Serbia placed its troops on combat alert after ethnic Serbs living in Kosovo clashed with Kosovo police. And then in September, just before the recent mobilization at the border, 30 heavily armed ethnic Serbs attacked a police patrol in Kosovo, leaving four people dead.
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https://www.foreignaffairs.com/eastern-europe-and-former-soviet-union/russias-second-front-europe

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[Ef-man]

Days :lol

https://x.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1721856134183588312

[Ef-man]

They actually posted the address of the drone training center. :lol

https://x.com/TrentTelenko/status/1722069994773623010

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[hater]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lol :lol :rollin

:lmao

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1722205397690593683

[ElNono]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lol :lol :rollin

:lmao

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1722205397690593683

:lol pretty sure they got more balls than you, tbh

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https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1722205397690593683

Like the early days when they'd send 'em out in pairs; boyfriend and hot chick girlfriend with a fresh makeover courtesy of the CNN make-up guru who had made the trip across. What'd Putin do? Put 'em on-the-spot. That put a stopper in that bottle by God. No more girlfriends, no more CNN make-up guru on site, the boyfriends? They either went to Poland, or, stayed out in the combat zones. ha, ha.

[hater]

Like the early days when they'd send 'em out in pairs; boyfriend and hot chick girlfriend with a fresh makeover courtesy of the CNN make-up guru who had made the trip across. What'd Putin do? Put 'em on-the-spot. That put a stopper in that bottle by God. No more girlfriends, no more CNN make-up guru on site, the boyfriends? They either went to Poland, or, stayed out in the combat zones. ha, ha.

:lol

[hater]

:lmao

https://x.com/RRNmedia/status/1722248628713226465

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:lmao

https://x.com/RRNmedia/status/1722248628713226465

CNN won't touch this one. No way.

[hater]

They are dropping like flies :lol

https://x.com/velerie_a/status/1722171997101150256

[DMX7]

It's simple economics. If there's nothing stopping Europe from acquiring Russian oil products (in this case, sanctions), they'll just get the gas/oil where it's cheaper, which is Russia, due to simple logistics.

Oil was 40% of Russia's entire economic output before the war. There's no way they agree to anything without those sanctions lifted.

Here's another example of a major long-term LNG deal just recently signed. Changes in Europe's energy market are increasingly structural.


Germany’s BASF SE has signed its first deal to buy liquefied natural gas as the chemical producer steps up efforts to diversify supplies amid Europe’s wider push to severe links with Russia.

Starting from the middle of 2026, BASF will receive about 800,000 tons of LNG a year from Cheniere Energy Inc. in an agreement that runs through 2043, the US exporter said Tuesday in a statement. The deal is subject to a final investment decision on the first train of the Sabine Pass expansion project in Louisiana.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-08-22/german-chemicals-giant-basf-inks-lng-supply-deal-with-cheniere?embedded-checkout=true

The lack of reliability is a cost that must be factored into the price of of cheap Russian energy, so it's not as cheap as it seems as Europeans have learned the hard war. Russia's oil is already on the global market, so it probably won't have much impact on US if sanctions are dropped given that US exports oil globally anyway.

I think Ukraine has lost a lot of negotiating leverage because the counter-offensive hasn't been the success Ukraine needed. Now we may have to lift those sanctions to get any kind of deal like you say. My point is that I wouldn't life the sanctions for nothing but for something -- it may have to be just in exchange for an armistice at this point.

[hater]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

https://x.com/AndreeaPufulete/status/1722307112657736009

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

https://x.com/AndreeaPufulete/status/1722307112657736009

:lol you're acting like there will be no further allocations.

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https://x.com/AndreeaPufulete/status/1722307112657736009

hater

[Ef-man]

Yam Tits being called out and bends the knee. :lol

Volodymyr Zelensky invited U.S. presidential candidate Yam Tits to Ukraine during an interview with NBC News on Nov. 5.

Responding to Yam Tits’ claim that he could end Russia’s war in Ukraine in 24 hours, Zelensky said he would prove to the former U.S. president that he couldn’t.

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Yam Tits says he can’t go to Ukraine due to conflict of interest or inflamed bonespur deferment or fighting his personal STD war or fighting 91 indictments witch hunt.

Take your pick.

:lol

[koriwhat]

Zelensky and Azov still winning you virtuous sjw dumbfucks? Not that I want Ukraine demolished by the dumbass Russian Army, or anyone else for that matter, but it's been hilarious seeing you pussies simp for such a corrupt state and its cross-dressing theater kid Z. :lmao

Fuck Ukraine!

[ChumpDumper]

Joey caring so fucking hard ITT.