Game Thread: Spurs vs Jazz - Dec 27, 2021 - 7:30pm CT

[DC23]

Spurs looking for their fourth consecutive win!

[NASpurs]

Ah yes, &;30 PM CT

[Dejounte]

Key to victory: drag Gobert out of the paint with Landale’s 3-point shooting.

[BillMc]

Spurs got a tough one but.... SA by 2.

[John B]

Jazz Injuries: Donovan Mitchell (Out – Back), Udoka Azubuike (Out – Ankle), Malik Fitts (Out – Shoulder)
Spurs Injuries: Dejounte Murray (Out – Health and Safety Protocols), Zach Collins (Out — Ankle)

Mitchell is out. Spurs by 12 pts! :flag::flag::flag:

[Fusternino]

Will be interesting to see if they play such a "massive" starting lineup again.

[heyheymymy]

:flag:

[John B]

Will be interesting to see if they play such a "massive" starting lineup again.

I like the SL last night likewise the substitution. It’s just well-balanced and seems more “natural” positions. Nothing against DJM and I wish him back the earliest. Just saying.

[LeBowen]

I like the SL last night likewise the substitution. It’s just well-balanced and seems more “natural” positions. Nothing against DJM and I wish him back the earliest. Just saying.

Yeah, everyone else benefits from having an actual forward with size. Especially Keldon.

As for tonight, I think it depends if Jazz starts Ingles or Clarkson.
If it's Conley-Clarkson backcourt, we can't really start with Keldon/Doug guarding one of them.
I'd start Devin.

If Ingles starts, then KBD starting is fine.

[RC_Drunkford]

Clarkson about to go for 40 tonight. Spurs got a chance though, a win would be big

[Dex]

I'll say it again...Fuck The Jazz!

[BatManu20]

Mitchell out. Spurs have a solid chance.

[DMC]

Key to victory: drag Gobert out of the paint with Landale’s 3-point shooting.

That will fool the Jazz, no one ever thought another team would try it.

[Uriel]

Murray out but Mitchell out too so the Spurs should have a good chance to win. Jazz will be looking for revenge and the Spurs are on the 2nd night of a back-to-back, but the Spurs are playing their best basketball of the year.

[Uriel]

Also, we should thank Utah, because Gobert’s presence was what forced Pop to finally try playing Landale, and he’s been a fixture in the rotation ever since.

[Mr. Body]

I'd be surprised by a win. Utah will be looking for payback and they're a step in quality certainly over the Pistons but even over the Lakers. A good chance to show the league they're legit.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Great thing about last nights game was that it was a blowout. Derrick and Jakob only logged 16 and 15 minutes. Forbes was the 3rd in minutes last night hopefully that’s not the case tonight.

Definitely a winnable game at home. No DM and the Jazz don’t have many players that can score on their own when they need a bucket. Spurs need to get Clarkson out of the game quick.

[Robz4000]

I'd be surprised by a win. Utah will be looking for payback and they're a step in quality certainly over the Pistons but even over the Lakers. A good chance to show the league they're legit.

This tbh.

[Leetonidas]

An expected L but if Spurs manage to win I fully expect a "we're back boys" thread from FkLA :lol

[Dejounte]

An expected L but if Spurs manage to win I fully expect a "we're back boys" thread from FkLA :lol
Aww fuck this is post of the night for sure :lmao

[ismael-robert]

Lee expecting a loss means we win

[spurraider21]

Spurs by 20+ tbh

[emanueldavidginobili]

Rudy going for 25 tonight.

[Seventyniner]

Big starting lineup again: White/Keldon/KBD/McD/Poeltl.

Jazz rolling with Conley/Ingles/O'Neale/Bogdanovic/Gobert.

[Dejounte]

The Jazz are playing hounding defense. Their hands are literally everywhere. Not gonna be a good night if the Spurs are careless with their passes or handles

[objective]

How is Derrick getting blocked by Mike Conley?

[Dejounte]

This is the perfect night for the Spurs to play soft. Let’s see how they respond with all this physicality

[Robz4000]

Refs going HAM for the Jazz.

[Sugus]

Every single possession for the Jazz is a foul, damn. And we're playing home...

Nice to see that the Spurs are guarding the lob-to-Gobert play well so far. That's by far one of the most dangerous to let slide.

[RC_Drunkford]

Jazz are getting every call. I just hope the Spurs can get hot from 3. Scoring will be tough against the Jazz defense without DJ

[objective]

White not playing well at all. Sonned on defense, running around like he broke his feet again

[Dejounte]

Lonnie has put in a lot of work on that J. They used to all be clank, clank, clank

[Dejounte]

LANDALE

[Sugus]

Damn, Clarkson is so fucking good. Can't even be mad, he's just a great player. Without the tunnel vision, he could be Mitchell-lite. I would love for Lonnie to someday turn into a Clarkson-esque kinda player.

[spurraider21]

dont know if its just a confidence thing but Vassell is making a lot of very athletic plays that we barely saw a year ago

[LeBowen]

Great game so far.

Jock has some serious potential.

[Dejounte]

Damn, Clarkson is so fucking good. Can't even be mad, he's just a great player. Without the tunnel vision, he could be Mitchell-lite. I would love for Lonnie to someday turn into a Clarkson-esque kinda player.

The man is a walking bucket. I get Jamal Crawford vibes from him. It’s so natural for him to score. When the ball goes up, you know it’s going in. It’s not fair.

[NASpurs]

Clarkson is shooting 38% from the field for the season and 30% from 3 this year :lol

[Dejounte]

Clarkson is shooting 38% from the field for the season and 30% from 3 this year :lol

So he’s a Spurs killer then :lmao must be all motivated to show up for his baby mamas in San Antonio

[Sugus]

Clarkson is shooting 38% from the field for the season and 30% from 3 this year :lol

Fully expecting him to drop 25+ tonight, especially with Mitchell out tbh

[NASpurs]

Fully expecting him to drop 25+ tonight, especially with Mitchell out tbh

If it's from a 10/28 game, easy Spurs win.

[Sugus]

Damn, Rudy lost a step or two offensively... That's a shot he made every single time before. Sad to see legends of the game aging.

[PhantomDashCam]

Underrated story of the season - Lonnie’s turnaround from early season pacifist to short memory assassin. :tu

[spurraider21]

having a midrange game is nice but Walker's pullup 2's are bad

[Robz4000]

Feels like this might be over early. Jazz are defending the Spurs perfectly, and it doesn't help the Spurs don't know how to shoot freethrows.

[Dejounte]

Umm is the increased role in ball handling duties for White causing his defense to drop?? He’s gotta step it up in that area tonight

[SPURt]

Missing more bunnies than Elmer Fudd

[BatManu20]

Spurs offense in shambles.

[RC_Drunkford]

With Derrick White playing in scared bitch mode again this is an L

[Seventyniner]

Hell of a drive and pass by Poeltl off the inbounds, nobody on the Jazz expected it. Too bad Vassell missed the wide open corner 3.

[Sugus]

Great defense by Jakob.

And man, get Primo in this game ASAP. Forbes brings you nothing.

[Robz4000]

:lol Poeltl has been a complete disaster

[SPURt]

Bench Forbes

[Seventyniner]

Too many pullup midrange 2s. That needs to be a fallback option, not the shot you look for.

Not a good time for another Forbes brickfest either. This is a great time to give his minutes to Primo.

[Dejounte]

With Derrick White playing in scared bitch mode again this is an L

I think last night’s easy win may have had an effect on him. Looks like he’s slower than usual (especially reaction time) and it can’t be due to fatigue because he didnt play many minutes last night. It’s probably because his mind is on cruise control. Although he’s much less decisive tonight, looking like he’s overthinking things..where on his good nights he just goes for it with spin move after spin move and full gear into what he wants to do.

[RC_Drunkford]

Why did McDermott only play 3 mins? Is he injured?

[Dejounte]

Nice and 1 but man, like I said, he was so slow to get to that spot

[PhantomDashCam]

Spurs are absolutely abusing Clarkson on D. Just haven’t converted many attempts…yet.

[Robz4000]

:lmao fuck off Forms

[emanueldavidginobili]

Can't believe this team re-signed this fuck head, wtf man.

[RC_Drunkford]

Forbes had White wide open at the 3 point line but decided to go for the fadeaway midrange brick :lol

[Seventyniner]

Fvck!

[LeBowen]

Get fucking Forbes off the floor, ffs.

[Robz4000]

Honestly, difference in the game is the Jazz hitting their food stamps, the Spurs bricking theirs.

[Sugus]

:lmao fuck off Forms

He's so ridiculously bad.... How is he not embarrased enough to be picked at every single defensive possession, to actually bother to make his shots on offense? Guy is a literal negative on all ends of the court. Bleh

[NASpurs]

Derrick is open and this asshole Forbes pulls up for a clank jumper :lol

[objective]

Why did McDermott only play 3 mins? Is he injured?

Fouls

[TimDunkem]

Forbes is such a fucking ball hog, and so predictable too.

*dribble, dribble, ignores wide-open teammate, pull-up, clank*

Every fucking time...

[Robz4000]

He's so ridiculously bad.... How is he not embarrased enough to be picked at every single defensive possession, to actually bother to make his shots on offense? Guy is a literal negative on all ends of the court. Bleh

Fvck!

[Seventyniner]

Bullshit call against Poeltl there.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Logged on just to say bryn forbes sucks sooo bad per par

[MultiTroll]

Bench Forbes
I'm a boxscore Betty.
Was just going to say please tell me i am not seeing Forbes with 6 minutes 0-3 (0-2) with Primo on the bench.

F-ing Grandpa. Someone in the org grow a pair FFS.

[Seventyniner]

Pop trying to get himself ejected? He's mad, and he has every right to be.

[td4mvp2k]

Logged on just to say bryn forbes sucks sooo bad per par

[hoopdreams11]

Forbes should not get any minutes

[objective]

While Forbes was his usual trash can fire, at least he wasn't targeted at all. I would have expected it to be Clarkson non stop, but they just didn't bother

[NASpurs]

Primo's existence on this Earth is already a net positive unlike Forbes.

[Fusternino]

Keldon not even knowing 10 Star Wars characters, LOL.

[TimDunkem]

I'm a boxscore Betty.
Was just going to say please tell me i am not seeing Forbes with 6 minutes 0-3 (0-2) with Primo on the bench.

F-ing Grandpa. Someone in the org grow a pair FFS.
Last shot Forbes completely ignored a wide open White to do his patented dribble pull-up fadeaway clank in front of 2 defenders. :lol

[MultiTroll]

Landale was pulled after 6 minutes because?

Ok he had Covid i know i know.....

[hoopdreams11]

Pop is mad Rudy setting moving screens all game and they call it on Poertl

[Seventyniner]

Keldon not even knowing 10 Star Wars characters, LOL.

Please tell me he said Obi-Wan Ginobili.

That guy on the court (I recognize his face but don't remember his name) had the Star Wars outfit on and I thought he was gonna say it. I should have seen Obi-Wan Coyote coming.

[MultiTroll]

Last shot Forbes completely ignored a wide open White to do his patented dribble pull-up fadeaway clank in front of 2 defenders. :lol
Since Grandpa is senile / control freak and no one in the FO or owners have a spine, players need to suss this shit out in meetings.

[emanueldavidginobili]

You can clearly tell the only Alpha on this team is not playing. Team is playing soft as hell. Throw in Primo what the fuck does it hurt? Him checking in will automatically get the crowd back in the game.

[boutons_deux]

Spurs have gone Stone Cold

[Robz4000]

Yep, this one's over.

[MultiTroll]

11-0 Jazz run WTF

[John B]

Spurs can’t buy a basket and getting outhassled

[objective]

Primo shouldn't only play ahead of Forbes ... He should play ahead of Tre Jones also.

[Degoat]

We suck again! It looked like Chip Englland was getting crunk with one of the refs during that Timeout lol

[Sugus]

You can clearly tell the only Alpha on this team is not playing. Team is playing soft as hell. Throw in Primo what the fuck does it hurt? Him checking in will automatically get the crowd back in the game.

Yep. Pull White out, he's been trash anywhere, and let Primo take a shot at running the team. Definitely will get the crowd into it.

[Robz4000]

Finally Primo time.

[Dejounte]

Ask and ye shall receive

[RC_Drunkford]

Will the Spurs score double digits in this quarter? They scored 8 points in 8 minutes

[John B]

Somebody make a layup

[td4mvp2k]

BS call

[Dejounte]

I know Landale is good but out of those group of 5 players you’d rather have someone else take it to the hole all the way from the perimeter. Come on, guys

[Sugus]

Both Jak and Gobert with 3 fouls already.... They're fuckin' twins I tell ya

[SPURt]

Vassell is freaking athletic

[John B]

What an ugly game

[SPURt]

10 points isn’t bad considering that was one of the worst offensive quarters imaginable until the last few possessions

[BatManu20]

Spurs have looked horrible and only down 10. Not bad tbh.

[Dejounte]

Well, I appreciate White not sulking and shying away. Maybe he’s chipping away at his lack of aggressiveness and will continue to pick it up

[BackHome]

Only down by 10 and we playing like trash not bad....

[DMC]

There's no way we can keep up that blistering pace from beyond the arc.

[RC_Drunkford]

Whoever gets hot from 3 will win this game. Jazz have missed plenty of shots too

[John B]

Spurs came out flat. Jazz wasn't playing great either. Spurs playing well in the 2nd half should win this game. Let’s go!

[MannyIsGod]

Spurs doing a great job defensively. White can't just not force the issue here. Lonnie has done well taking it to the hole and so has vassel, but white has been largely absent until those final 2 possessions.

Utah not letting Kelson have shit and gobert shutting down drives so they need to get some floaters or mid rangers.

[objective]

Let's see if the Primo time comes before Forbes or Jones in the second half

Probably not, but miracles can happen

[Dejounte]

The half time show with the chihuahua will never get old

[8sy21vd]

Tre Jone -17 in 7 minutes lol. Uh Primo should definitely being playing ahead of him and Forbes. He's got length and is a shooting threat.

[John B]

I’m watching a Jazz telecast. What an ass. Commentators should be at least try to be unbiased.

[John B]

The half time show with the chihuahua will never get old

At least this chihuahua knows what to do with the ball. I wish I could say the say with out squad in the 1st half

[boutons_deux]

9% on 3G

One for 11 in first half

[John B]

Let’s go start shooting better in the 2nd half

[John B]

Why fucking go under Ingles?

[emanueldavidginobili]

At the bare minimum Primo can just spot up and shoot and i'll have more confidence in it going in than anyone on the team. This kid brings some spunk to the game why not?

[objective]

What's up with Pop and his bottle having it's label covered?

[John B]

These contestants can’t shoot either :lol

[Dejounte]

Refs calling fouls for Gobert like he’s Shaq apparently

[td4mvp2k]

where the fk is mcbuckets?!

[LeBowen]

Jazz are just a better team,can't beat them without a good shooting night.

[objective]

30 point game went to KBD's head?

[Sugus]

:lmao I want the reply on that nutshot

[Degoat]

Keldons gotta start going for dunks, stop with these awkward layups

[John B]

Down for the count :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

Basically everybody except McDermott is playing terrible. We need somebody to get hot

[Dejounte]

30 point game went to KBD's head?

The 30 pt game had always been more about our guards finding him easy shots than it was about KBD scoring those shots for himself

That plus the better team defense by the Jazz making it less likely for our guards tonight to find easy looks for him

[MannyIsGod]

Am they miss djm tonight

[John B]

Not enough energy. Bring in Forbes :pop:

[objective]

They're hanging off Derrick so much yet he keeps driving. If he can't make them pay with threes he's going to have a hard time out there

[boutons_deux]

Spurs -10 free throw points

[SPURt]

Whiteside lookin like Bill Russell out there :lol

[Dejounte]

Every time they get in striking distance, the Jazz pull away

[MultiTroll]

FTA
23-9 Jazz.

Appears Spurs have had zero since half.

JazzRef still rigging?

[SPURt]

Damn Vassell!

[td4mvp2k]

poor fkn offense

[heyheymymy]

Yikes Im switching over to dolphins saints lol good night nurse

[Dejounte]

Tre Jones has to do a better job on defense. Be a pest. Hound him.

[Sugus]

Lol, I'm liking this game. Chippy shit. Jazz can't seem to pull away, and Spurs can't seem to get too close to them. It only takes one run...

[SPURt]

Well, the Spurs have some momentum I guess?

[John B]

Okay it’s heating up in time for the 4th quarter. Let’s go Spurs!

[boutons_deux]

Down by 12 points and down by 14 points on free throws

[John B]

Spurs came from behind to win at Jazz. Let’s go!

[SPURt]

Mommy is making her fat daughter mush her m&ms

[td4mvp2k]

way to go poop :tu

[emanueldavidginobili]

Hurry back DJ, hopefully he is asymptomatic.

[PhantomDashCam]

Gobert only has 1 block but seemingly changed at least 20 others…

[John B]

That was a sissy shot by Poodle before that made bucket

[PhantomDashCam]

This lightsaber choreography is better than the sequel trilogy. Costumes about on par…

[John B]

Just not enough energy. And this Star Wars is not helping :lol

[Sugus]

Fuck you Clarkson!!

[MultiTroll]

6 minutes left in game.
If boxscore correct, Spurs have not shot a FT this half.

JazzRef 27-9

Now i see a Jazz just did a Take foul.

[Robz4000]

If the Spurs had any ability to hit freethrows this would be a game. Sadly they don't.

[John B]

Spurs was just flat from start after that blowout last night

[MannyIsGod]

Tonight was a game they can learn a lot from when they have a film session. We needed to run out offense though Devin and Lonnie because they have midrange games but instead we didn't seem to have a coherent offensive game plan. We went under way too many screens on players like Ingles.

Really disappointed in Jak tonight. Don't think he was mentally bin this game at all.

[Dejounte]

I know the game is all but done but why the F did Lonnie go for a 2 there

[John B]

Jazz wasn’t even impressive tonight.

[siraulo23]

Jazz played em well, the Spurs didnt make the reads they had to make against a good defensive team

[Sugus]

Primo comes in, immediately makes a pass better than anything Forbes did all night.

[John B]

I hate this Jazz commentator. Their team is not even playing that great. Both teams are playing ugly

[John B]

Gay was saying that was a travel by Joe :lol

[TimDunkem]

Lol Cacok with the effortless baby hook over Gobert.

[TimDunkem]

Anyone of those guys are better than Forbes tbh.

[Dejounte]

This garbage time line up has a really traditional size to it

PG Tre 6’3”
SG Primo 6’5”
SF Wieskamp 6’7”
PF Cacok 6’8”
C Eubanks 6’10”

[John B]

Pop should’ve put this squad earlier just to give a little spark

[paperboy77]

Was this just a learning experience? Utah a tall, psychological type team. Jedi mind tricks?

[paperboy77]

Pop should’ve put this squad earlier just to give a little spark

Best we can say is that you can't win em' all.

[Uriel]

We lost to the better team.

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs really lost this game at the free throw line. 19 point disparity. Other than that the Jazz didn’t even shoot better. Was definitely a winnable game, they just missed way too many bunnies. Especially Jakob and Keldon. Basically everybody played bad and they were still in it

[itzsoweezee]

Don’t mean to be that guy, but a 30 to 9 free throw disparity is absurd. The spurs live in the paint and were getting zero calls.

[John B]

Spurs really lost this game at the free throw line. 19 point disparity. Other than that the Jazz didn’t even shoot better. Was definitely a winnable game, they just missed way too many bunnies. Especially Jakob and Keldon. Basically everybody played bad and they were still in it

Hard to go to the FT line shooting with floaters :depressed

[Sugus]

Fully expecting him to drop 25+ tonight, especially with Mitchell out tbh

Dropped 23, close enough. I hate that man.

[Dejounte]

Fuck you Clarkson!!

https://twitter.com/abrjsdad/status/1475673043385167874?s=21

So this was you?? It makes sense now

I kid, I kid

[Sugus]

https://twitter.com/abrjsdad/status/1475673043385167874?s=21

So this was you?? It makes sense now

I kid, I kid

Lmaoo I wish. Other teams (and our own damn players) are lucky I don't live anywhere near SanAn, I'd be the heckling type of fan.

[Seventyniner]

Gobert only has 1 block but seemingly changed at least 20 others…

The kind of thing you don't see in a box score.

Poeltl has a similar effect, just not to quite the same extent.

The stat I usually see for this is opponent's FG% at the rim with X player as the primary defender. I'm trying to find it but I can't remember which site had that.

[Dejounte]

https://youtu.be/4wgNXDSevJ0

The Spurs need to take a flier on this PF before his price becomes too high

[daslicer]

Gobert only has 1 block but seemingly changed at least 20 others…

Duncan used to impact the game defensively the same way.

[The Truth #6]

https://youtu.be/4wgNXDSevJ0

The Spurs need to take a flier on this PF before his price becomes too high

Those clips remind me of a younger, more athletic version of veteran Rudy Gay, if that makes sense. A modern 4 who can drive and shoot the 3. He's come a long way since his rookie year. Yeah, definitely someone to keep an eye on.

(And damn, how many 3s did he make?? I lost count. Must have been at least 8.)

[Dejounte]

Those clips remind me of a younger, more athletic version of veteran Rudy Gay, if that makes sense. A modern 4 who can drive and shoot the 3. He's come a long way since his rookie year. Yeah, definitely someone to keep an eye on.

(And damn, how many 3s did he make?? I lost count. Must have been at least 8.)


A young Rudy Gay is exactly what I had in mind. It’s the perfect prototype for today’s NBA and a good fit for this Spurs team lacking in the ISO department (and young enough to mold into a player who won’t be as selfish or as bad on defense as the actual Rudy Gay)

[koriwhat]

What an ugly game to watch up close... :vomit:

[Sugus]

1475687086615265280

:lol :ihit

[Slippy]

Against the Jazz you need all 5 out there defending. You cant have any letups or breakdowns.

Jacob was the biggest letdown too often not doing anything. He did have foul trouble to worry about all game but thats seems to be the trend against the likes of Gobert. What's fustrating was when the opportunity was there for him to make an impact he hanged back on D and was soft on offense .

KJ and Doug didn't help much on that end either. Cutting corners and not hustling enoug on help.

[John B]

Against the Jazz you need all 5 out there defending. You cant have any letups or breakdowns.

Jacob was the biggest letdown too often not doing anything. He did have foul trouble to worry about all game but thats seems to be the trend against the likes of Gobert. What's fustrating was when the opportunity was there for him to make an impact he hanged back on D and was soft on offense .

KJ and Doug didn't help much on that end either. Cutting corners and not hustling enoug on help.

B-but Poeltl is a top 10 Center in the league :lol

[MannyIsGod]

B-but Poeltl is a top 10 Center in the league :lol
He was shit tonight but he's undeniably a top 10 center.

[John B]

While Jazz only had 6 blocks, Gobert and Whiteside probably altered some 20 shots. Our guys just played scared the whole game. It sucks that our starting center folds against capable bigs, too scared to draw the fouls because he can’t hit the free throws! Dunk the ball and draw contacts! Sorry but until Poodle starts getting aggressive inside, Spurs will always have trouble against teams with dominant bigs. Gobert was a sub-50% FT shooter but he worked hard to get that number up to 60+% and he used that tonight to get the Spurs in foul trouble which was the difference in the ball game. Jock would have to learn to play his back on the basket more if Poodle is unwilling. Top 10 center :lmao

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

1475687086615265280

:lol :ihit

mental weakness

[boutons_deux]

Duncan used to impact the game defensively the same way.

Tony really appreciated Rashow for blocking out players to clear the path for Tony's layup

Doesn't show up in the stats of course

[Dex]

Felt like the Spurs tried to do everything at the rim this game...which is an interesting strategy going up against the likes of Gobert and Whiteside.

So many missed (or altered) layups and little 3-5 foot floaters. Snyder was using the old strategy of just giving guys runs to the rim only to hit a wall like the Spurs used to do with Timmy and DRob.

This may have actually been a better game to go mid-range (like we did when we beat the Jazz last time) or bomb away from three like we did against the Clippers and Lakers.

Either way, the Spurs didn't shoot well in any regard, they still have no answer for Gobert beside fouling him, and Clarkson went off. That seems to sum it up imo.

[rjv]

i'm just wondering which ST dumb ass was at the game and pissed off clarkson.

[MannyIsGod]

While Jazz only had 6 blocks, Gobert and Whiteside probably altered some 20 shots. Our guys just played scared the whole game. It sucks that our starting center folds against capable bigs, too scared to draw the fouls because he can’t hit the free throws! Dunk the ball and draw contacts! Sorry but until Poodle starts getting aggressive inside, Spurs will always have trouble against teams with dominant bigs. Gobert was a sub-50% FT shooter but he worked hard to get that number up to 60+% and he used that tonight to get the Spurs in foul trouble which was the difference in the ball game. Jock would have to learn to play his back on the basket more if Poodle is unwilling. Top 10 center :lmao

Name 10 better centers.

The whole schtick of putting some stupid emoji at the end of something as if it gives your point any credence is so tired man. No one is saying Jak is going to lead a team to a championship. But he's a top 10 center. If you're wanting him to be a high flying dunking rim runner, then you're going to be waiting a long time. That's not who he is. He doesn't have the ability of a Clint Capella to do that.

[John B]

Name 10 better centers.

The whole schtick of putting some stupid emoji at the end of something as if it gives your point any credence is so tired man. No one is saying Jak is going to lead a team to a championship. But he's a top 10 center. If you're wanting him to be a high flying dunking rim runner, then you're going to be waiting a long time. That's not who he is. He doesn't have the ability of a Clint Capella to do that.

Who says high flying? Start with dunk the ball. How many missed layups does he have? Did you see that high arching bank shot over Gobert that almost hit the top of the board? I don’t know what list you use, but he’s #24 on this behind Aldridge: http://insider.espn.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/c

Bruh, I don’t even need the list. Just eyetest and result, the guy scared shit against capable bigs. Did you see how Gobert takes everyone with him in the post to get fouled? Believe me just a little more training and Jock would be taking his starting gig. The guy constantly ask for the ball inside and punish his defender. Do you see the same fight on Poodle? Nope.

[MannyIsGod]

"i don't even need the list"

Thanks, didn't think so.

[John B]

"i don't even need the list"

Thanks, didn't think so.

http://insider.espn.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/c

But you’re the one asking for 10 centers who are better than Poodle. There are 23 on this list :lol

[TimDunkem]

Poeltl ain't even a top 10 in the conference.

[Larry O]

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:lol :ihit

It was reported that a Spurs fan had a few "choice words" at SA's own, Jordan Clarkson, perhaps at the end of the game, & Clarkson had the fan ejected from the Center! Anyone else heard anything else about this matter?

[Robz4000]

Poeltl ain't even a top 10 in the conference.

Jokic
Gobert
Ayton
KAT
Valanciunas
Poeltl

imo.

[TimDunkem]

Ehh

[Uriel]

Jakob is an elite rim protector and offensive rebounder and maybe the most impactful player on the team in terms of winning. Is he an all-star? No, and without significant improvement to his offensive game, he may never be.

But given his age and salary, he’s performing much better than what we could’ve reasonably expected out of him and there’s plenty of reason to be optimistic about where he goes from here.

[DAF86]

http://insider.espn.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/c

But you’re the one asking for 10 centers who are better than Poodle. There are 23 on this list :lol

Did you even see some of the names on that list who are above Poeltl? :lol

[DAF86]

Jokic
Gobert
Ayton
KAT
Valanciunas
Poeltl

imo.

Give me Poeltl over Valanciunas. Heck, maybe even over KAT. Offensive minded centers that can't defend are fools' gold.

[Sugus]

Give me Poeltl over Valanciunas. Heck, maybe even over KAT. Offensive minded centers that can't defend are fools' gold.

Totally (and unsurprisingly) agreed. Fooling the league and its fans into thinking that you MUST have shooting and offense at all 5 positions is maybe the Warriors'/small ball's worst contribution to modern basketball.