Brian Keeps Getting It Wright

[Atl Spur]

Let’s start keeping score ladies and gents!

[Dejounte]

Why are you so cringe, my dude

[Atl Spur]

Why are you so cringe, my dude

What is cringe homie? If you are asking why I’m calling out dudes......it’s fun!

[CGD]

Gotta say, I’m still in the “drafting they’re great, free agency they’re meh” camp. That said, extracting something from nothing in the DDR deal made me eat a little crow. Still want to see a clear strategy for using cap space and free agency going forward tho.

[Atl Spur]

Gotta say, I’m still in the “drafting they’re great, free agency they’re meh” camp. That said, extracting something from nothing in the DDR deal made me eat a little crow. Still want to see a clear strategy for using cap space and free agency going forward tho.

That’s fair.

[BackHome]

I am curious to see what they going to do with Walker and Young this season and maybe White next season.

[Kevin]

Gotta say, I’m still in the “drafting they’re great, free agency they’re meh” camp. That said, extracting something from nothing in the DDR deal made me eat a little crow. Still want to see a clear strategy for using cap space and free agency going forward tho.

But its honestly not surprising they struggle in free agency. Spurs play in a small market and without TD Manu and Parker its a tough sell.

[KingKev]

Unless Wright has been heavily involved in the drafting process in recent years he is a C student GM. He needs to start taking some risks in my opinion (McLovin’ and Zollins were low risk, low reward). His best moves have been not retaining LMA, Mills and Gay; and only because signing them to above market deals would have been a very PATFO thing todo. Renting out 25mm in capital for a 2025 FRP in return for DDR is hardly a win.

[MultiTroll]

Letting the massively overpaid minutes stealers LMA, Mills and Gay walk while getting nothing for them was a major fail.

How much of that was Popped, probably 99% but Wrights name was on the GM title.

Whom has Wright drafted? KJ and Vassel? Scores.

McBuckets signing? Fail.

[pookenstein]

McBuckets signing? Fail.

How so? Because of the 13.8M he makes?

[KingKev]

How so? Because of the 13.8M he makes?

Yes. 3 Yrs guaranteed was an overpay. Few teams, if any were willing or had the cap space to sign this guy beyond the MLE. He is a liability on the defensive end and an overrated 3pt shooter. Moves well without the ball but can’t guard or box out his own shadow.

[MultiTroll]

How so? Because of the 13.8M he makes?
What KingKev said. As other have said he's basically a Brent Forms in SF position. Not that he sucks as badly as Forms, rather same idea in that
great if he is hitting, otherwise big net negative.

[pookenstein]

OK, I get that. But I think in his time with us he's shown he's more than just a pure shooter like Forbes. He's a good/great cutter as well. Worth his 13.7M/Y? Maybe not, but not terribly overpaid IMO. I personally wouldn't say signing him to this contract is a fail. Who, in your opinion, would have been a better (or as good), cheaper player for his position, the Spurs could have realistically gotten?

[CGD]

But its honestly not surprising they struggle in free agency. Spurs play in a small market and without TD Manu and Parker its a tough sell.

In my books it’s not just about getting big names to come to SA, but about being aggressive in flipping C assets to get B assets, and B assets to get A assets, etc. It includes knowing when to be a dumping ground, cutting bait, and being a 3rd party trade facilitator. New terrain for spurs for sure, but can’t rest on laurels now.

[MultiTroll]

Who, in your opinion, would have been a better (or as good), cheaper player for his position, the Spurs could have realistically gotten?
Had i known Craig was going to continue to coach and play Pet Bryn while sitting Primo and Jock, might as well have tanked.
Cam Reddish is looking like a bargain at 4.7 this year and he certainly spreads the floor.
From Duke, so has that going against him.

But Reddish can do anything Whitey can do for 1/3rd the cost.

[Leetonidas]

Lol...aren't we still paying Carroll? Aminu? Hutchinson? :lol

[pookenstein]

Had i known Craig was going to continue to coach and play Pet Bryn while sitting Primo and Jock, might as well have tanked.
Cam Reddish is looking like a bargain at 4.7 this year and he certainly spreads the floor.
From Duke, so has that going against him.

But Reddish can do anything Whitey can do for 1/3rd the cost.

They couldn't get Reddish:
"The Atlanta Hawks have exercised the fourth-year (2022-23) contract options on De’Andre Hunter and Cam Reddish along with the third-year (2022-23) option on Onyeka Okongwu, it was announced today. Per team policy, terms of the agreements were not disclosed."
This is from nba.com
Any alternatives they could have signed?

[JeffDuncan]

Lol...aren't we still paying Carroll? Aminu? Hutchinson? :lol

And also Samanic, for a total altogether of about $18M in cap space. That amount is more than any active Spurs player is being paid this season. Not a good job there.

[MultiTroll]

Any alternatives they could have signed?
Samanic? Jk.

[GAustex]

^ Atl Spur not wanting that to get out

[Mugen]

Yeah, he's been doing great :lol

[Atl Spur]

I love you guys! Lol. Can’t get enough Crow can you? The most successful current NBA orgs all stem from the pop tree but yet and still it’s a debate regarding Patfo competency! LMFAO

[MultiTroll]

I love you guys! Lol. Can’t get enough Crow can you? The most successful current NBA orgs all stem from the pop tree but yet and still it’s a debate regarding Patfo competency! LMFAO
No kidding.
Doc Rivers, Brett Brown are just a couple of the all timers who emulate Pop.

[KingKev]

I love you guys! Lol. Can’t get enough Crow can you? The most successful current NBA orgs all stem from the pop tree but yet and still it’s a debate regarding Patfo competency! LMFAO

Yes PATFO sonned many great minds over the years but there is no denying PATFO has slipped which may even be part of the reason for some of the recent brain drain.

[dbestpro]

The team missed the playoffs and had a losing record this year. Until you are a champion contender, you remain in fail mode. The question is how many years will he take in fail mode before moving to success mode. Time will tell, but for now he is not on the wright side he is on the wrong side.

[CGD]

I love you guys! Lol. Can’t get enough Crow can you? The most successful current NBA orgs all stem from the pop tree but yet and still it’s a debate regarding Patfo competency! LMFAO

Yup— just look at the top 3 teams in the each conference. All minus CHI have a straight head coach or GM line to Pop’s coaching tree.

That’s not adding emerging clubs like Charlotte or even OKC whose on a 5 year plan.

[KingKev]

Yup— just look at the top 3 teams in the each conference. All minus CHI have a straight head coach or GM line to Pop’s coaching tree.

That’s not adding emerging clubs like Charlotte or even OKC whose on a 5 year plan.

Probably should have better communicated to any of those that they were being groomed for the next era of Spurs management before letting them walk. Becky probably hasn’t solidified the coaching role post Pop because she disagrees with him 60% of the time, a cardinal sin;

“Becky I only hired you because you are a woman who likes women and we need diversity in this league plus I’m hella woke but your title is just a figurehead, Bryn Forbes, Matt Bonner even Drew Eubanks are actually all ahead of you in terms of succession.”

[buttsR4rebounding]

Probably should have better communicated to any of those that they were being groomed for the next era of Spurs management before letting them walk. Becky probably hasn’t solidified the coaching role post Pop because she disagrees with him 60% of the time, a cardinal sin;

“Becky I only hired you because you are a woman who likes women and we need diversity in this league plus I’m hella woke but your title is just a figurehead, Bryn Forbes, Matt Bonner even Drew Eubanks are actually all ahead of you in terms of succession.”

:king

[Atl Spur]

Probably should have better communicated to any of those that they were being groomed for the next era of Spurs management before letting them walk. Becky probably hasn’t solidified the coaching role post Pop because she disagrees with him 60% of the time, a cardinal sin;

“Becky I only hired you because you are a woman who likes women and we need diversity in this league plus I’m hella woke but your title is just a figurehead, Bryn Forbes, Matt Bonner even Drew Eubanks are actually all ahead of you in terms of succession.”

If you think they don’t have a plan cool but I doubt it.

[KingKev]

If you think they don’t have a plan cool but I doubt it.

This is a tight lipped organization, I get it. Given what is now 4-5 years of mishaps and questionable decision making I suspect there is more friction going on behind closed doors. This isn’t just Kawhi’s fault. Maybe Brian Wright is quite capable just doesn’t really have the green light to make his own decisions. Maybe he has full discretion and actually is a
terrible GM. We will never know.

We do know half of the NBA would never consider playing for the Spurs unless they are paid 25% more and it’s not just the city; San Antonio is an okay place to be. Brian Wright might be the Eubanks/Forbes/Bonner of general management; punching out of his weight class because he works hard and checks many other boxes.

[Atl Spur]

This is a tight lipped organization, I get it. Given what is now 4-5 years of mishaps and questionable decision making I suspect there is more friction going on behind closed doors. This isn’t just Kawhi’s fault. Maybe Brian Wright is quite capable just doesn’t really have the green light to make his own decisions. Maybe he has full discretion and actually is a
terrible GM. We will never know.

We do know half of the NBA would never consider playing for the Spurs unless they are paid 25% more and it’s not just the city; San Antonio is an okay place to be. Brian Wright might be the Eubanks/Forbes/Bonner of general management; punching out of his weight class because he works hard and checks many other boxes.


Sir, do you honestly think Pop and Rc don’t have input into these moves & direction of the organization? Wise up......

[KingKev]

Sir, do you honestly think Pop and Rc don’t have input into these moves & direction of the organization? Wise up......

Part of the argument is maybe they have too much.

[Atl Spur]

From an historical standpoint some of you don’t really get how great we’ve been�� the sausage will be made correctly

[KingKev]

From an historical standpoint some of you don’t really get how great we’ve been�� the sausage will be made correctly

What is wrong with having a view? If Pop told you to drink bleech would you do it blindly? I mean he is a pretty smart, successful and acclaimed individual; historically anyways.

[Atl Spur]

What is wrong with having a view? If Pop told you to drink bleech would you do it blindly? I mean he is a pretty smart, successful and acclaimed individual; historically anyways.

Kev…..me drink bleach because I’m easily misled? Come on bruh���� Don’t be a clown.

[KingKev]

Kev…..me drink bleach because I’m easily misled? Come on bruh���� Don’t be a clown.

There are certain ppl in life I will never once question. Coach Pop is not one of them. He has made many mistakes and
often out-coached himself. He has also done some genius/incredible things and earned the ability to go out on his own terms as his wins were far greater… with that preface, I can not out of blind faith, especially given the last 5 years of sus decision making not question PATFO if atleast for the sake for constructive criticism.

[Atl Spur]

Let’s start keeping score ladies and gents!

Ok……. I see you Brian

[rjv]

wright doing his best presti impersonation today

[scott]

Dang, I don’t even get this loco in 2k

[Chinook]

https://www.tankathon.com/power_rankings

I haven't loved either trade today, but at least the Spurs have a strong presence in the draft right now.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Props to him, he's been ruthless and looking at the roster he's a long way from being done. It projects to be a busy draft night and summer.

Tearing a roster down for future assets is way easier than building an actual winning team, though.

[GAustex]

Ok……. I see you Brian
Counting chicks when all you got is eggs

[rjv]

i won't rush to judgement on today's trades. calling them bad or good before seeing what becomes of these picks is premature, imo.

[The Truth #6]

It sure feels like Wright is working with more autonomy now. Can’t see RC doing all these moves.

[Atl Spur]

Counting chicks when all you got is eggs

Sit back and relax kind sir………

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

who knows how this turns out but brian does seem to be making the wright moves so far

[John B]

I'd give it an A- just because he didn't get to move Poeltl.

[CGD]

I’m sad about Derrick, but I think it was a very solid trade deadline.

Now let’s hope TOR drops to a play-in team, and BOS gets overtaken by Nets, Charlottes, Atlanta and everyone else in the standings!

[Atl Spur]

Today was a good day!

[poopbox]

i won't rush to judgement on today's trades. calling them bad or good before seeing what becomes of these picks is premature, imo.


I'll rush to judgement and say this was a phenomenal job. Before the day started we were a tanking team. After the day ended we were a tanking team with 3 additional 1st round pick AND a pick swap so far into the future it might legit be a top lottery pick and all we gave up was one useful player who in the end turned out to not be part of our rebuild anyway.

You can't get chickens without eggs, and today we got way more eggs than any of us could have thought.

[Mr. Body]

I'd give it an A- just because he didn't get to move Poeltl.

Correct. Not moving Poeltl is worth at least two letter grades.

[baseline bum]

Correct. Not moving Poeltl is worth at least two letter grades.

I'd have been fine moving Poetl for a solid return, but LOL at people who wanted to dump him to Toronto for a first when the Spurs were able to make that trade with Young instead.

[slick'81]

Maybe rc is finally rubbing off on B-dub

[lefty20]

Let's be honest, we're in a much better spot going into next year then most us thought we'd be after that Bryn Frobes signing in the off season. Gotta give the man his props. He's doing well the resources in hand.

[Budkin]

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[slick'81]

1491918889260879874

hoping f0r 3frp's in '22

[emanueldavidginobili]

Busiest Spurs deadline ever?

[slick'81]

Busiest Spurs deadline ever?

easily

[RC_Drunkford]

the thing is the team didn't even get worse by much. There's not that much of a gap between White and Richardson when it comes to production

[barakz21]

Kinda bummed about losing White, though it will be good in the long term. ALTHOUGH.. not sure if I’m more bummed by that or that there won’t be as many “we like what we have” jokes.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

He did a good job today.

this off season is the true test though.

[Atl Spur]

We draft and develop well….. I’m excited

[mookie2001]

So do we have 3 first rounders for this year?

Ours, Bulls and Raptors? Assuming they don't lose out and hit the lotto

[baseline bum]

So do we have 3 first rounders for this year?

Ours, Bulls and Raptors? Assuming they don't lose out and hit the lotto

Ours, Celtcis, and Raptors. Bulls pick isn't until 2025.

[mookie2001]

Nice. Now hit on all three with guys who shoot threes. Eazy does it.

[tbdog]

Obviously spurs scouts like this draft. I can't imagine Wight accumulating there draft picks without the scouts nod.

[objective]

If the raptors decide this ain't their year they'll have no problem tanking their way into the lottery, thereby keeping their pick but also getting the Detroit second from the Spurs, leaving Wright with a stunned look on his face.

Masai to Wright: "Yoinks! Got your pick and mine!"

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

If the raptors decide this ain't their year they'll have no problem tanking their way into the lottery, thereby keeping their pick but also getting the Detroit second from the Spurs, leaving Wright with a stunned look on his face.

Masai to Wright: "Yoinks! Got your pick and mine!"

Then they’ll still owe their 2023 top 13 protected pick to the Spurs. And if they’re bad again then the Spurs will get their high 2nd rounder + another 2nd the following year. It’s a good gamble.

What if Raptors just about make the playoffs and the Spurs get pick 15 this year or next? What will Masai say then?

[KingKev]

If the raptors decide this ain't their year they'll have no problem tanking their way into the lottery, thereby keeping their pick but also getting the Detroit second from the Spurs, leaving Wright with a stunned look on his face.

Masai to Wright: "Yoinks! Got your pick and mine!"


The Raps are fully committed to the playoffs, 4gms back of 1st in the east and on an 8 game win streak. The additon of Thad was a win now move for a playoff run. That pick is very likely to convey this year.

[Dejounte]

People love doomsday scenarios, don’t they? Everything has its own risk.

[CGD]

The Raps are fully committed to the playoffs, 4gms back of 1st in the east and on an 8 game win streak. The additon of Thad was a win now move for a playoff run. That pick is very likely to convey this year.

Agree. Our best case scenario for this year is TOR gets in to the playoffs as the 8th seed, while Boston regresses biggly being passed up by Nets, Hawks, and Charlotte (and the teams in the west trying to make the playoffs).

[Atl Spur]

People love doomsday scenarios, don’t they? Everything has its own risk.

It just proves the saying, some people will never be happy! We are in a good place as an org.

[ceperez]

People love doomsday scenarios, don’t they? Everything has its own risk.

I guess you didn't notice that the current Spurs roster doesn't get you into the playoffs. This team is a the bottom and isn't going up until we get a dominant player.

[objective]

Then they’ll still owe their 2023 top 13 protected pick to the Spurs. And if they’re bad again then the Spurs will get their high 2nd rounder + another 2nd the following year. It’s a good gamble.

What if Raptors just about make the playoffs and the Spurs get pick 15 this year or next? What will Masai say then?

Then Masai will say, "Oh well, thanks for the title. Yoinks!"

I should point out that I had proposed a similar 2nd to first Thaddeus swap months ago, except with Minnesota and Prince instead of Dragic.

Clearly Wright was reading this forum and that's how he thought of it.

"That's a good idea, I think I'll take it! Yoinks!"

Jajaja

[RC_Drunkford]

I love you guys! Lol. Can’t get enough Crow can you? The most successful current NBA orgs all stem from the pop tree but yet and still it’s a debate regarding Patfo competency! LMFAO


It just proves the saying, some people will never be happy! We are in a good place as an org.

:lmao :lmao

[Mugen]

:lmao

[offset formation]

He's had a rough week.

[Budkin]

Please let him get fired. Please!

[K...]

Please let him get fired. Please!

why? people are truly insane. wright is decent at worse, and proved he is up to the task? what more do you want?

[DPG21920]

why? people are truly insane. wright is decent at worse, and proved he is up to the task? what more do you want?

Jury still out. He started out pretty bad, had a very solid off season IMO, but that Primo pick really bad. So not sure yet…

[baseline bum]

Primo walking into Brian Wrong's office


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb8FyqSXnIM

[objective]

Brain drain is real. If they get rid of the current Orlando lottery intern turned lottery Pistons draft mastermind, there's probably no one else any better in the organization as it is.

I have seen speculation that Sean Marks won't be long for Brooklyn. But his record is that of a pushover who let his stars bully him into dumb moves. And before that, not the smartest guy when he had cap room and signed every no talent rfa scrub he could find to a huge deal. Luckily the current intern in chief has resisted such temptations. Other than finding new ways to have dead money on the cap.

So while I wouldn't be upset if they dumped Wright for Marks ... I wouldn't be overjoyed either.

[rankingtear]

Shame, probably the only one who can get an asset for Bryn Forbes.

[timtonymanu]

:lmao

[Atl Spur]

Thanks for the bump:)

[poopbox]

Funny cause I am of the mind that Brian Sometimes Wright is the one who started the tank in full by trading Derrice and Dejounte for mostly picks tbh

[vy65]

Let’s start keeping score ladies and gents!

Yes lets.

Teams facing active litigation for sexual harassment/workplace discrimination:

Spurs: 1
League: 0

[Atl Spur]

Yes lets.

Teams facing active litigation for sexual harassment/workplace discrimination:

Spurs: 1
League: 0
This would be to easy comparing Spurs against other orgs transgressions league wide…… you should know better! Don’t waste my time with childs play silly wabbit��

[CGD]

Discuss

Track record for this year so far (Murray deal through Jakob deal):

- 4 FRPs (two fully unprotected)
- 1 FRP swap right
- 3 SRPs
- some cash for the owner

[Mr. Body]

We can quibble about timing of the tank. I see the value of trying - valiantly - to keep a decent team going while bringing along young talent. Clearly it wasn't quite working so they flipped DDR for assets and shifted to what we have now.

I think people discount how toxic it is to lose as much as this team is losing. You see it on Keldon at this point, who we will have to move in the next year.

But this team is doing exactly what it should be doing. No long-term, bad contracts (and, no, Dougie's doesn't count, none of them are bad). Lots of cap room. And accumulate draft capital.

People are freaking because the team isn't making big splashes, like multiple picks for Gobert. But they did very well with the Murray trade. And they seem to be fairly shrewd in how they're spacing their future picks out and trying to anticipate when those picks might convey -- when their teams might start declining.

AND, they pulled at least one really excellent move in that Thad Young trade, which they don't get enough credit for. Using a stray asset from the DDR trade to move up in the draft was one of the best under-the-radar moves this league has seen in the last few years.

This is EXACTLY what must be done.

[Ariel]

I liked pretty much every move we made last year, we need to let the details come out before passing judgement on this year's moves.

[Atl Spur]

We can quibble about timing of the tank. I see the value of trying - valiantly - to keep a decent team going while bringing along young talent. Clearly it wasn't quite working so they flipped DDR for assets and shifted to what we have now.

I think people discount how toxic it is to lose as much as this team is losing. You see it on Keldon at this point, who we will have to move in the next year.

But this team is doing exactly what it should be doing. No long-term, bad contracts (and, no, Dougie's doesn't count, none of them are bad). Lots of cap room. And accumulate draft capital.

People are freaking because the team isn't making big splashes, like multiple picks for Gobert. But they did very well with the Murray trade. And they seem to be fairly shrewd in how they're spacing their future picks out and trying to anticipate when those picks might convey -- when their teams might start declining.

AND, they pulled at least one really excellent move in that Thad Young trade, which they don't get enough credit for. Using a stray asset from the DDR trade to move up in the draft was one of the best under-the-radar moves this league has seen in the last few years.

This is EXACTLY what must be done.
^ this guy gets it!

[KingKev]

Discuss

Track record for this year so far (Murray deal through Jakob deal):

- 4 FRPs (two fully unprotected)
- 1 FRP swap right
- 3 SRPs
- some cash for the owner

Meh. Nothing genius about those moves. Brian Wright atleast conceded we needed to rebuild.

A grade schooler with an X-Box could have made this team relevant in shorter order but he gets a gold star for finally starting to do his job. Even Tony Parker at summer league asked wtf is this organization doing?

Not sure how anyone could give PATFO a pat on the back after the last 5-6yrs.

[Atl Spur]

Discuss

Track record for this year so far (Murray deal through Jakob deal):

- 4 FRPs (two fully unprotected)
- 1 FRP swap right
- 3 SRPs
- some cash for the owner

I see you….. let’s keep it going!

[CGD]

I liked pretty much every move we made last year, we need to let the details come out before passing judgement on this year's moves.

Agree. I think even if the TOR pick is lotto protected, it'll be a win in my book if they can extract reasonable value out of Richardson and their cap space by the end of today.

[CGD]

I see you….. let’s keep it going!

:-)

[Atl Spur]

Meh. Nothing genius about those moves. Brian Wright atleast conceded we needed to rebuild.

A grade schooler with an X-Box could have made this team relevant in shorter order but he gets a gold star for finally starting to do his job. Even Tony Parker at summer league asked wtf is this organization doing?

Not sure how anyone could give PATFO a pat on the back after the last 5-6yrs.
Go Spurs Go!

[RC_Drunkford]

I think he has made good moves so far. This is what you need to do when you are rebuilding. He definitely has to move Josh Richardson today

[Ariel]

Not sure how anyone could give PATFO a pat on the back after the last 5-6yrs.
I think that's lumping together 2 very different periods:
18-21: kept trying to ride a dead horse, made a few trade/draft blunders.
22-23: acknowledged reality, made good trades, drafted guys who made sense
I had honestly given up on the FO, the past year has given me some hope they woke up at least.

[CGD]

I liked pretty much every move we made last year, we need to let the details come out before passing judgement on this year's moves.

Returns coming back on Jakob trade: 24 FRP is Top 6 protected; SRP includes juicy 2023 pick.

[slick'81]

Brian wright is growing up:wow

[KingKev]

I think that's lumping together 2 very different periods:
18-21: kept trying to ride a dead horse, made a few trade/draft blunders.
22-23: acknowledged reality, made good trades, drafted guys who made sense
I had honestly given up on the FO, the past year has given me some hope they woke up at least.

This is a fair assessment and personally I think it speaks to Pop being removed from most decisions outside of facilitating internal conversations where he has continued to add value I suspect.

[Atl Spur]

This is a fair assessment and personally I think it speaks to Pop being removed from most decisions outside of facilitating internal conversations where he has continued to add value I suspect.

Stop…..put your spoon down! Just watch us cook!! Lol

[tim_duncan_fan]

Thank god

[RC_Drunkford]

Let's go…..pull your glasses out! Watch Primo's cock!! Lol

[scott]

Tbqh, I think Brian Wright has earned some trust that he is a competent wheeler and deal. In fact, I'm more worried he gets too addicted to this and goes full-Presti.

[John B]

We can quibble about timing of the tank. I see the value of trying - valiantly - to keep a decent team going while bringing along young talent. Clearly it wasn't quite working so they flipped DDR for assets and shifted to what we have now.

I think people discount how toxic it is to lose as much as this team is losing. You see it on Keldon at this point, who we will have to move in the next year.

But this team is doing exactly what it should be doing. No long-term, bad contracts (and, no, Dougie's doesn't count, none of them are bad). Lots of cap room. And accumulate draft capital.

People are freaking because the team isn't making big splashes, like multiple picks for Gobert. But they did very well with the Murray trade. And they seem to be fairly shrewd in how they're spacing their future picks out and trying to anticipate when those picks might convey -- when their teams might start declining.

AND, they pulled at least one really excellent move in that Thad Young trade, which they don't get enough credit for. Using a stray asset from the DDR trade to move up in the draft was one of the best under-the-radar moves this league has seen in the last few years.

This is EXACTLY what must be done.

You know you’re right. But just once… I want Spurs to splurge on something. I’m occasionally flipping on ST page for something big… oh wait.. it’s happening… Khem Birch?? Who the F is this guy? :lol

[Atl Spur]

Cute :) You like me huh? Always with the lame commentary, keep it basketball ( rhymes with itch ).

[KingKev]

I’m unsure if that was edited or not but if I was a child (still kinda am) chocolate milk would be coming out my nose. Thanks for the laugh!
RC_Drunkford (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=53010)

[stnick2261]

This is a fair assessment and personally I think it speaks to Pop being removed from most decisions outside of facilitating internal conversations where he has continued to add value I suspect.

I agree mostly, but Pop did have the final say to approve the Murray trade and decide on the direction to go (full rebuild versus trying to reload). Hopefully that did mean he handed the reigns to Wright.

[Atl Spur]

^ message for that broad RC Drunkford…….cheers trick!

[spurraider21]

Tbqh, I think Brian Wright has earned some trust that he is a competent wheeler and deal. In fact, I'm more worried he gets too addicted to this and goes full-Presti.
hinkie got fired for doing this and his work resulted in the sixers being a top team for a while now

[GAustex]

Cute :) You like me huh? Always with the lame commentary, keep it basketball ( rhymes with itch ).
Miss Cleo!!!!!
Got some sand in your vajaj?
Poor thing
Go lick poops taint you will feel better

[JeffDuncan]

The Spurs’ record so far with Brian Wright as GM:

32 - 39
33 - 39
34 - 48
14 - 41, to date

Keeping it real.

[Atl Spur]

The Spurs’ record so far with Brian Wright as GM:

32 - 39
33 - 39
34 - 48
14 - 41, to date

Keeping it real.

Need a stud player….. hence let’s lose the right way.

[Atl Spur]

#warchestfull. Next stop: Draft Night! Please re-bump then please����

[CGD]

#warchestfull. Next stop: Draft Night! Please re-bump then please����

I’m here for it!

[MarCowMar]

Wright's moves have been making sense for a couple seasons now. I have no gripes with any of it.

The vets come in on solid contracts. Show their stuff, set a good example for the pups, then get shipped out a competitive team when the time comes.

Disappointments like Langford and injured players like Collins get a chance to rehabilitate and integrate or be shipped out when their value improves.

Because the Spurs have a good environment for player development, the players only have so much to complain about.

We continue to churn through the draft and wheel and deal until true centerpiece talent emerges.

[offset formation]

WTF happened here? Did I morph into the board's shit pumper? KingKev is pimping Wright's moves? And I am seemingly unilaterally getting crapped on for not liking PATFO publicizing the trade demands prior to the deadline, which were not met. Nor am I a fan of the multitude of SRPs we got in lieu of those expected FRPs.

I used to be on the other side. I'm through the looking glass, living in a bizarro world. How this came to pass is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.

[KingKev]

WTF happened here? Did I morph into the board's shit pumper? KingKev (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=52391) is pimping Wright's moves? And I am seemingly unilaterally getting crapped on for not liking PATFO publicizing the trade demands prior to the deadline, which were not met. Nor am I a fan of the multitude of SRPs we got in lieu of those expected FRPs.

I used to be on the other side. I'm through the looking glass, living in a bizarro world. How this came to pass is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.

PATFO set the bar incredibly low these last 3-5 years. I’m atleast encouraged that they have a strategy in place and are executing/sticking to it.

The return for Jak/JRich met my already low expectations.

[Atl Spur]

Let’s do the wright thing boys ( pun intended ); give Brian his flowers:)

[Ariel]

https://i.ibb.co/Fb8BztP/patback.webp

[Atl Spur]

https://i.ibb.co/Fb8BztP/patback.webp

Not really…..just seeing how humble some aren’t:)

[cutewizard]

Good job GM

[Atl Spur]

Don’t make call names…… no d_ck riding now! Keep that same energy from before….

[cutewizard]

Get Budddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

[Atl Spur]

Brian’s waiting ( by Brian I mean me )! Lol. Maybe RC Drunkford can stop by and bend the knee….

[Atl Spur]

Please have RC Drunkford come see me…that’s all.

[RC_Drunkford]

Please have RC Drunkford come see me…that’s all.

what's up Ms. Cleo :lol here I am

[Atl Spur]

what's up Ms. Cleo :lol here I am

Glad to see you have some semblance of balls…. Do you really want me to make up a name for you?

[Atl Spur]

We can stick to basketball and go over some mere facts if that’s ok with you:)

[RC_Drunkford]

We can stick to basketball and go over some mere facts if that’s ok with you:)

I don't know why you're obsessed with me, but hey bring on the basketball takes

[GAustex]

Tell us of the future Miss Cleo
Tell us again of Primo
And Langford too
Tell us of the future Miss Cleo

[Atl Spur]

I don't know why you're obsessed with me, but hey bring on the basketball takes

Obsessed? A clown like you aren’t allowed use that word! Did Brian do good job this off-season?

[Atl Spur]

Tell us of the future Miss Cleo
Tell us again of Primo
And Langford too
Tell us of the future Miss Cleo

RC, this is what obsessed looks like! ( Who invited him ) lol.

[RC_Drunkford]

Obsessed? A clown like you aren’t allowed use that word! Did Brian do good job this off-season?

you're on my dick as usual. He's been doing a great job for the past 2 seasons tbh. Nowhere did I say he didn't

[GAustex]

Miss Cleo
Did ur boy wright use a lotto pick on
Primo?

[Atl Spur]

you're on my dick as usual. He's been doing a great job for the past 2 seasons tbh. Nowhere did I say he didn't

Cool…..carryon biatch!

[Atl Spur]

We just keeping score :)

[RC_Drunkford]

Cool…..carryon biatch!

:lmao typical Ms. Cleo basketball take :lmao

[K...]

is this where we talk about not paying DJ Murray for the max salary? feels nice

[Atl Spur]

:lmao typical Ms. Cleo basketball take :lmao

Hmmmmm….if you say so! Typical? RCD, please carry on. See you back here sooner than later I assure you��

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLkXZNHmIBs

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0NIbxdxhtI

[cutewizard]

ttps://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=2557676891050054&set=gm.5625820917520592&idorvanity=801272003308865

[RC_Drunkford]

We just keeping score :)

you‘re down 10-0

[Atl Spur]

you‘re down 10-0

Do explain….

[kobyz]

If Wright is smart he's trading for Ja Murant now that his trade value at all time low

[rankingtear]

If Wright is smart he's trading for Ja Murant now that his trade value at all time low

For Wemby?

[NASpurs]

:lmao shit stain poster and thread

[Mugen]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[vander]

OP should try r/NBASpurs, they worship PATFO over there and are also very politically correct, can you imagine a better place for spurs fans?

[Atl Spur]

:lmao shit stain poster and thread

This man called me a shit stain? Wow, you gotta get a vacation big dawg! We’ll just let it all play out:)

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

The Spurs need to make a couple of moves just to be competitive. It feels like they'll keep getting took to the woodshed without a change at the point guard. Honestly, the right player or two could change the fortunes of this team. If Brian has any sort of magical powers this would be the time to show them. This team sucks in its current form, and they'll wander aimlessly if they stick to the Sochan experiment throughout the season.

[Atl Spur]

The Spurs need to make a couple of moves just to be competitive. It feels like they'll keep getting took to the woodshed without a change at the point guard. Honestly, the right player or two could change the fortunes of this team. If Brian has any sort of magical powers this would be the time to show them. This team sucks in its current form, and they'll wander aimlessly if they stick to the Sochan experiment throughout the season.

I’m encouraged we can even build leads like we have, we will learn how to close out games big man!

[Russ]

I’m encouraged we can even build leads like we have, we will learn how to close out games big man!

Yeah, I'm more focused on the fact they're getting those leads in the first place than that they (always) blow them.

Losing together is a part of the (hate to use the word) process.

It's a step not to be skipped.

Losing bonds young players even more than winning and if it doesn't with certain guys then you've learned something very valuable.

All young teams that get thrown into the fire together with nothing else in place go through this (like GSW). Then they turn the corner.

Probably not time to be bridge jumping.

[LeBowen]

Here comes a bit of a rant. :rollin
10 rotation players as of now:

Sochan - no point guard skills whatsoever
Vassell - good on both ends
Keldon - traffic cone defense
Wembanyama - good on both ends
Collins - traffic cone defense

Jones - can't shoot, lack of size gets exploited
Branham - traffic cone on defense
Osman - traffic cone on defense
McDermott - traffic cone on defense
Bassey - no archetype flaws, but not good enough...yet.

As we can see, 6 players are absolutely horrible on defense.
Tre being so undersized means that he's also a liability very often and he can't really start against any elite PG.
Jeremy being a wing that plays in the wrong position is also an issue on defense because he's too slow to chase elite PGs and when his PNR defense partner is Collins, it's hopeless.

You guys are talking about blown leads? Just rewatch the Kings game, the only reason why Spurs got the lead in the first place was that Kings kept missing wide open three after wide open three. Usually from the corner.
Same goes for most other early leads. It's just about opponents missing shots.

This roster construction is just a travesty on both ends of the floor.
Charity cases and some abstract archetypes that could maybe work out in a few years.

We got the best prospect in 20 years and he's surrounded by garbage.
And then we give Collins an extension that's worth a solid amount of money. You can find undersized bigs that shoot 30% from 3 and have 4:3 assist/turnover ratio for way less than 17 million a year he got.
Osman is a player that should barely crack rotation on a serious playoff team, but he's looked really solid here. Why? Because he knows his role. Everyone else looks completely lost.

Yeah, Champagnie torched G-leaguers in Vegas, but he's not even close to being good enough for NBA rotation.

I fully agree that this season should be about experimenting and seeing who can and who can't be a part of the future, but after just a dozen games it's blatantly obvious that everyone except Wemby and Vassell isn't anywhere close to being good enough.
I personally think Jeremy can be a great utility forward, but if Pop is going to torture him wih his PG experiment, then he's better off elsewhere, just sad.

Others can go. Branham can become a starving man's Jordan Clarkson, but there are plenty of those in the league.

Idk, I'm not a basketball expert but all of us here grew up with defense being the first, second and third most important thing in basketball.
Fast forward 20 something years and we've got a roster that has a case for the worst defensive team in basketball history when Wemby isn't on the floor. Process Sixers level bad.

And stop with the takes about tanking for a point guard. Yeah, we get someone who's not yet ready and we wait for him for a couple more seasons because it's the most difficult position for a young player.
We've got like 13 first rounders and all the cap space in the world. Get a couple of solid pieces so Wemby can develop because this situation is just hindering him.

[TheGreatYacht]

That 2022 draft might possibly be the worst 3 first round picks of all time. Sochan was an atrocious player in college and was an inefficient ‘high potential’ gamble that will undoubtedly flop, unsurprisingly. Branham is a no defense shot chucking bum that you can find off the street, he isn’t good at a single facet of the game. Wesley was an embarrassment in Year 2 of summer league, out of the league after this season and never to be heard from again.

Brian getting it Wrong as per

[Mugen]

That 2022 draft might possibly be the worst 3 first round picks of all time. Sochan was an atrocious player in college and was an inefficient ‘high potential’ gamble that will undoubtedly flop, unsurprisingly. Branham is a no defense shot chucking bum that you can find off the street, he isn’t good at a single facet of the game. Wesley was an embarrassment in Year 2 of summer league, out of the league after this season and never to be heard from again.

Brian getting it Wrong as per

Hard to make that call on Sochan just yet since he's had terrible coaching since coming into the league. Agree on Branham and Wesley though. Like, you and I both know that Pop would have absolutely ruined Jalen and Mark Williams tbh :lol

[Vince Carter's ankle]

Sochan was an atrocious player in college. Branham isn’t good at a single facet of the game.
https://media.tenor.com/LXhCAYhW9xMAAAAC/wolf-stupid.gif

[scott]

That 2022 draft might possibly be the worst 3 first round picks of all time. Sochan was an atrocious player in college and was an inefficient ‘high potential’ gamble that will undoubtedly flop, unsurprisingly. Branham is a no defense shot chucking bum that you can find off the street, he isn’t good at a single facet of the game. Wesley was an embarrassment in Year 2 of summer league, out of the league after this season and never to be heard from again.

Brian getting it Wrong as per

Hindsight is 20/20, but it sure looks like the optimal draft would have been:

9. Jalen Williams
20. Walker Kessler
25. Andrew Nembhard

[Mugen]

Where's Miss Cleo been during this 9 game shit show? :lol

[Robz4000]

Where's Miss Cleo been during this 9 game shit show? :lol

Scared off by "racism" and copypasta tbh imo.

[objective]

We've got like 13 first rounders and all the cap space in the world. Get a couple of solid pieces so Wemby can develop because this situation is just hindering him.

After the Collins deal, they probably won't have "all the capspace in the world" in the foreseeable future. They don't look like they'll have room for a single Max player the next 2 years.

[objective]

Hindsight is 20/20, but it sure looks like the optimal draft would have been:

9. Jalen Williams
20. Walker Kessler
25. Andrew Nembhard

Yeah but there was no way they would take Jalen Williams because he was clearly better than Primo, and they were so in love with Primo's junk and their own arrogance in their scouting that weren't going to put an obstacle in his way.

[sammy]

Here comes a bit of a rant. :rollin
10 rotation players as of now:

Sochan - no point guard skills whatsoever
Vassell - good on both ends
Keldon - traffic cone defense
Wembanyama - good on both ends
Collins - traffic cone defense

Jones - can't shoot, lack of size gets exploited
Branham - traffic cone on defense
Osman - traffic cone on defense
McDermott - traffic cone on defense
Bassey - no archetype flaws, but not good enough...yet.

As we can see, 6 players are absolutely horrible on defense.
Tre being so undersized means that he's also a liability very often and he can't really start against any elite PG.
Jeremy being a wing that plays in the wrong position is also an issue on defense because he's too slow to chase elite PGs and when his PNR defense partner is Collins, it's hopeless.

You guys are talking about blown leads? Just rewatch the Kings game, the only reason why Spurs got the lead in the first place was that Kings kept missing wide open three after wide open three. Usually from the corner.
Same goes for most other early leads. It's just about opponents missing shots.

This roster construction is just a travesty on both ends of the floor.
Charity cases and some abstract archetypes that could maybe work out in a few years.

We got the best prospect in 20 years and he's surrounded by garbage.
And then we give Collins an extension that's worth a solid amount of money. You can find undersized bigs that shoot 30% from 3 and have 4:3 assist/turnover ratio for way less than 17 million a year he got.
Osman is a player that should barely crack rotation on a serious playoff team, but he's looked really solid here. Why? Because he knows his role. Everyone else looks completely lost.

Yeah, Champagnie torched G-leaguers in Vegas, but he's not even close to being good enough for NBA rotation.

I fully agree that this season should be about experimenting and seeing who can and who can't be a part of the future, but after just a dozen games it's blatantly obvious that everyone except Wemby and Vassell isn't anywhere close to being good enough.
I personally think Jeremy can be a great utility forward, but if Pop is going to torture him wih his PG experiment, then he's better off elsewhere, just sad.

Others can go. Branham can become a starving man's Jordan Clarkson, but there are plenty of those in the league.

Idk, I'm not a basketball expert but all of us here grew up with defense being the first, second and third most important thing in basketball.
Fast forward 20 something years and we've got a roster that has a case for the worst defensive team in basketball history when Wemby isn't on the floor. Process Sixers level bad.

And stop with the takes about tanking for a point guard. Yeah, we get someone who's not yet ready and we wait for him for a couple more seasons because it's the most difficult position for a young player.
We've got like 13 first rounders and all the cap space in the world. Get a couple of solid pieces so Wemby can develop because this situation is just hindering him.

Well said! Brian Wright sucks as a GM! Signing Collins for that long of a contract, what a moron! Collins is like a gazelle but without the hops! Dude can't defend nothing! Drafting Wemby was the only saving grace but that's a no-brainer! Any GM would've draft Wemby! Get rid of this crap GM! Wemby is now stuck with scrubs other than Vassell, Johnson, Tre, and Sohan.

[Kurgan]

Haliburton with 36 pts/16 asts and nine threes made. Would have solved our point guard and volume shooter problems if Wright drafted him
Instead, we got the soft pussy Vassell who's out half the time with some toe ache or whatever.

[baseline bum]

Hindsight is 20/20, but it sure looks like the optimal draft would have been:

9. Jalen Williams
20. Walker Kessler
25. Andrew Nembhard

I'd rather have Victor + Sochan + Branham + Wesley than those three plus one of Scott Henderson / Brandon Miller / Amen Thompson / Ausar Thompson.

[baseline bum]

Haliburton with 36 pts/16 asts and nine threes made. Would have solved our point guard and volume shooter problems if Wright drafted him
Instead, we got the soft pussy Vassell who's out half the time with some toe ache or whatever.

I'd rather have Victor and Vassell than Haliburton and Ausar Thompson or Brandon Miller.

[timtonymanu]

Yeah I'd take those guys if it meant getting Wemby.

But tbh there was so much Brian Wrong slurping after we landed the 1st pick in the draft. Just look back at the posts. I wasn't ready to applaud him yet. The Spurs just got lucky the lottery balls bounced their way. Otherwise, they would be stuck in purgatory mode even more if they had Scoot or Thompson twin to go along with Vassell, Sochan, Keldon, and Branham. I'll never forgive the Primo mess up where the franchise basically allowed his antics to save face even though he was meh as a prospect when they should have picked Sengun. Vassell over Haliburton is a huge miss, but at least Devin has worth as an NBA player.

[timtonymanu]

Lol Spurs build big leads against teams early on, because every other NBA team knows they can coast against the Spurs in the 1st half and once they take the game more seriously, the Spurs fold so quickly and teams know they won't bounce back. It's happened every single time even to other shitty teams like the Grizzlies.

[baseline bum]

Yeah I'd take those guys if it meant getting Wemby.

But tbh there was so much Brian Wrong slurping after we landed the 1st pick in the draft. Just look back at the posts. I wasn't ready to applaud him yet. The Spurs just got lucky the lottery balls bounced their way. Otherwise, they would be stuck in purgatory mode even more if they had Scoot or Thompson twin to go along with Vassell, Sochan, Keldon, and Branham. I'll never forgive the Primo mess up where the franchise basically allowed his antics to save face even though he was meh as a prospect when they should have picked Sengun. Vassell over Haliburton is a huge miss, but at least Devin has worth as an NBA player.

The Primo pick was indeed horrible as his career highlight was one preseason game and I don't know WTF the Spurs were smoking thinking he had the star potential to deserve being picked #12 while averaging a whole 0.6 assists, but I can't blame the Spurs for missing Haliburton. At least nine other teams blew their pick too by that metric, ten if you think Haliburton has more long term potential than Ant. Vassell is showing to be a pretty good pick, not a home run like Haliburton, but a hell of a lot better than James Wiseman or Patrick Williams for example, and easily in the better half of lottery picks made that year.

[all blacks]

For Wemby?

[spursparker9]

The Primo pick was indeed horrible as his career highlight was one preseason game and I don't know WTF the Spurs were smoking thinking he had the star potential to deserve being picked #12 while averaging a whole 0.6 assists, but I can't blame the Spurs for missing Haliburton. At least nine other teams blew their pick too by that metric, ten if you think Haliburton has more long term potential than Ant. Vassell is showing to be a pretty good pick, not a home run like Haliburton, but a hell of a lot better than James Wiseman or Patrick Williams for example, and easily in the better half of lottery picks made that year.

Tbh Spurs have not drafted a single decent player since Presti left for OKC.

Nephew is just a lucky trade that he turn out to be anti-social and autistic enough to spend all his time training and improving his basketball skills. :lol

[duncan2150]

Tbh Spurs have not drafted a single decent player since Presti left for OKC.

Nephew is just a lucky trade that he turn out to be anti-social and autistic enough to spend all his time training and improving his basketball skills. :lol

A single decent payer lol ? Are you serious ?

[exstatic]

Tbh Spurs have not drafted a single decent player since Presti left for OKC.

Nephew is just a lucky trade that he turn out to be anti-social and autistic enough to spend all his time training and improving his basketball skills. :lol

Every first round pick since 2016 is either still in the NBA or on a two way. Find me another GM who’s done as well. Go ahead. I’ll wait. The picks were 29,29,18,19,29,11,12,9,20,25,1.

[The Truth #6]

Some of the challenges with our recent FRPs is that they came in on a tanking year, and are now in another losing/tanking experiment year. That's a development issue, but part of the sacrifice to get top talent. We all need to roll with it. It sucks that this year is basically already over but you know, process, et cetera.

[R. DeMurre]

I'm not a fan of the whole "sniffer" joke/narrative, but yeah-- arguing that had Wright drafted better, we wouldn't have gotten Wemby, so it adds up to a win... that's really contorting the analysis to defend everything he's done.

[The Truth #6]

I'm saying those players aren't playing as well because they came into a crappy team that wasn't trying to win, and still may not be trying to win that much. To me that's not a drafting issue but a coaching development process issue. I'm not saying it explains all of it but it's got to be part of it.

[scott]

I'd rather have Victor + Sochan + Branham + Wesley than those three plus one of Scott Henderson / Brandon Miller / Amen Thompson / Ausar Thompson.

I get this, and we've longed assumed that had we taken Hali, or Sengun, or those three over Sochan/Bran/Blake that we wouldn't have been bad enough to land Wemby... but in reality, even landing Wemby hasn't prevented us from being bad enough to be in position for the #1 pick.

In any event, it is hindsight, and we aren't the only team who passed on these guys.

[baseline bum]

I get this, and we've longed assumed that had we taken Hali, or Sengun, or those three over Sochan/Bran/Blake that we wouldn't have been bad enough to land Wemby... but in reality, even landing Wemby hasn't prevented us from being bad enough to be in position for the #1 pick.

In any event, it is hindsight, and we aren't the only team who passed on these guys.

22 year old Haliburton in 2022-23 very likely drags this team to more wins than 19 year old Wembanyama in 2023-24 will though. Victor is still way more potential than production right now.

[KobesAchilles]

I don’t want anymore Americans on the team. Draft some damn Euros. I’m tired of the low basketball iq on this team. AAU has ruined the league. American players are just dumb nowadays and have no idea how to do any fundamentals. Like how tf are we struggling running a pick n roll with a 7’5 giant that is athletic af. Bc nobody on the team knows how to play basketball.

[DJR210]

I don’t want anymore Americans on the team. :lol it used to be the other way around

[The Truth #6]

Wright doesn't prioritize foreign players like before as far as I can tell. He does like black players who are seemingly congenial and well adjusted, perhaps from small towns or Canada. Perhaps like to whip it out inappropriately.

[baseline bum]

I don’t want anymore Americans on the team. Draft some damn Euros. I’m tired of the low basketball iq on this team. AAU has ruined the league. American players are just dumb nowadays and have no idea how to do any fundamentals. Like how tf are we struggling running a pick n roll with a 7’5 giant that is athletic af. Bc nobody on the team knows how to play basketball.

Because the Polish guy forgets the 7'5" guy at the rim half the time?

[exstatic]

Wright doesn't prioritize foreign players like before as far as I can tell. He does like black players who are seemingly congenial and well adjusted, perhaps from small towns or Canada. Perhaps like to whip it out inappropriately.

Wemby - France
Sochan - England,Polish MNT
Flasher - Canada (it is a foreign country)

[KobesAchilles]

Because the Polish guy forgets the 7'5" guy at the rim half the time?
Meh dude was born in the US. But I don’t dislike Sochan at all. I just don’t like him as my PG. Put him where he belongs, high energy guy off the bench who is tough and can rebound then he would be amazing. Rodman started on the bench. I see Sochan as a better Malik Rose (not his style of play) but rather his role to the team

[Atl Spur]

Every first round pick since 2016 is either still in the NBA or on a two way. Find me another GM who’s done as well. Go ahead. I’ll wait. The picks were 29,29,18,19,29,11,12,9,20,25,1.

Facts have a way of quieting people…..

[objective]

While I think there's plenty of evidence to support Wright not being any better than average, he's still doing better than the Chicago brain trust.

Their first round draft picks have been busts. I really liked Patrick Williams also but it seems like Dalen Terry at 18 was trash also.

Traded Wendell Carter and 2 firsts (Franz Wagner and Jett Howard) to get Vucevic. Re-signed him.

Traded away Markannen for Derrick Jones Jr, a 2nd, and a Portland first that was protected so it never conveyed and turned into a second rounder that was forfeited anyway for tampering before free agency to get Lonzo

Speaking of, did a sign and trade to get Lonzo who had a history of leg problems

Risked a first round pick to get DeMar DeRozan which they'll probably get to keep because of their trajectory.

So it could be worse.

[The Truth #6]

Wemby - France
Sochan - England,Polish MNT
Flasher - Canada (it is a foreign country)

Ehh. Wemby no brainer. Sochan born in small town Oklahoma. Primo from Canada which I already mentioned. So not quite. Regardless , people are assuming white Euros, which was what I was referring to in my post.

[MultiTroll]

Tre Jones is clearly a Pop play vs a Wright 2023 extend/sign and minutes played decision.

I'm not saying it's correct or not, as the Spurs had to sign a pg and spend money per the CBA.

Just sayin when Popped said he "strongly wanted" or whatever it was he said re Try, Wright had his marching orders 100.

41st overall pick in 2000 and not a lot of dough so all in all ok.
Where he fits in to long term as a Wemby Championship piece, I'm gonna say no. Can't defend the bigger and faster guards.
Anyone who might point out a say, Clitter Paul...I'd say ya, CP0.

[Ditty]

I saw Wright at RAW tonight at the FB Center. He was with his kid in the merchandise line on his phone probably scrolling around ST :p:

Kind of strange he doesn't travel with the team on road games, unless he is leaving for the short trip to Houston after the event. I would think that the GM's would be at all of the games.

[Atl Spur]

Keep cooking big dog!

[CGD]

Turned an underwhelming offseason into a good one tbh

[Atl Spur]

BWright out here putting on a masterclass! Pop and Rc are great mentors:) Keep on cooking BWright!!

[exstatic]

Turned an underwhelming offseason into a good one tbh

Turned cap space and #8 in a crap draft into Harrison Barnes, an unprotected FRP, and two excellent swaps.

[spurraider21]

Well done

[scott]

Today Brian Wright proved that he is not just a seller, he is also a buyer.

Well fucking done.

[Extra Stout]

He got an All-Star point guard in his prime for peanuts. Well done at the least.

[KingKev]

Brian Right did his job. Let’s hope he keeps it up.

2-3 Branhams to expedite the free agency process is a very fair cost of doing bidness.

[CGD]

Awesome job, again! And this is a good sign: asset hoarding is one thing, the conversion is the hard part. This is a great first step.

[Atl Spur]

A masterclass! Great job fine sir:)

[heyheymymy]

Thank You Brian Correct

He is the Wright man for the job

[Atl Spur]

a lot of dudes are super silent…… no over analysis?

[tim_duncan_fan]

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
Oh, oh, oh, oh
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
The Wright stuff

[RC_Drunkford]

He's Brian Right now!!!:flag:

[baseline bum]

Started to be cautiously optimistic seeing the way Amen Thompson is blowing up in Houston after hearing how much the Spurs FO loved him but wow to get Fox for the protected Chicago pick they basically got for free by sending DeRozan away, the 20131 they got for Dillingham (which could end up a really interesting pick with the chaos in Minnesota), a 2027 Spurs first that isn't likely to be very good, and a grab bag of crap is legendary. RC never even pulled off a trade this impressive. BWright really outdid himself. This is so much better a trade than I dared to dream about to get Fox.

[LeBowen]

Forgive us doubters Brian, we are not worthy of thee!
(sniffers will be unbearable for the foreseeable future, but they have all the bragging rights :lol)

[cutewizard]

Gentlemen we have one more necessity

The Head Coach

Hmmmmmm

[scott]

Forgive us doubters Brian, we are not worthy of thee!
(sniffers will be unbearable for the foreseeable future, but they have all the bragging rights :lol)

Sniffers will take some victory laps, but if it were up to them we wouldn't have made this move for Fox. Of course, they'll find a way to contort their past statements to fit whatever the FO does... but sniffers claiming this was all part of their grand faith are engaging in revisionist history.

What Brian has done in the last 24 hours, is more akin to brokering a legit Israel-Palestine peace deal. He's brought the Sniffers and the Revolutionaries together in ways previously thought unimaginable. Mashallah!

[Atl Spur]

Forgive us doubters Brian, we are not worthy of thee!
(sniffers will be unbearable for the foreseeable future, but they have all the bragging rights :lol)

This is more about some on this board acting as if their opinion is gospel while failing to show any modicum of humility when they are dead ass wrong! Message board approval is the least of my concern but it does feel wright to serve this freezing cold crow! lol

[Atl Spur]

Sniffers will take some victory laps, but if it were up to them we wouldn't have made this move for Fox. Of course, they'll find a way to contort their past statements to fit whatever the FO does... but sniffers claiming this was all part of their grand faith are engaging in revisionist history.

What Brian has done in the last 24 hours, is more akin to brokering a legit Israel-Palestine peace deal. He's brought the Sniffers and the Revolutionaries together in ways previously thought unimaginable. Mashallah!

You are a clown always playing the middle….. I’ll stand on anything I say playboy be it grossly wrong or exceedingly wright! ( see what I did there? ) No ambiguity, just straight no chaser!

[KingKev]

You are a clown always playing the middle….. I’ll stand on anything I say playboy be it grossly wrong or exceedingly wright! ( see what I did there? ) No ambiguity, just straight no chaser!

I dubbed you Miss Cleo and felt bad after it actually took off. I’m trying to not be an internet bully but don’t make Scott take you to the lab. Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t and Scott will find a way to bury you. He consistently removes snifferism from his views; which is hard for all of us given our childish fandom but may I remind you even a broken clock is WRIGHT 2 times a day. Let’s all just enjoy what comes next as a squad.

[Sugus]

Sniffers will take some victory laps, but if it were up to them we wouldn't have made this move for Fox. Of course, they'll find a way to contort their past statements to fit whatever the FO does... but sniffers claiming this was all part of their grand faith are engaging in revisionist history.

What Brian has done in the last 24 hours, is more akin to brokering a legit Israel-Palestine peace deal. He's brought the Sniffers and the Revolutionaries together in ways previously thought unimaginable. Mashallah!

Hey, you know damn well I was all in on it! :lol


It was honestly not crazy to imagine, I told you I had a feeling like a week ago. People shit on the FO all the time but they tend to pull things off more often than not.

And looking at other teams, that's much more than can be said of other GMs :lmao

[scott]

Hey, you know damn well I was all in on it! :lol


It was honestly not crazy to imagine, I told you I had a feeling like a week ago. People shit on the FO all the time but they tend to pull things off more often than not.

And looking at other teams, that's much more than can be said of other GMs :lmao

I count you as more moderate than pure dyed-in-the-wool Sniffer :)

[Atl Spur]

I dubbed you Miss Cleo and felt bad after it actually took off. I’m trying to not be an internet bully but don’t make Scott take you to the lab. Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t and Scott will find a way to bury you. He consistently removes snifferism from his views; which is hard for all of us given our childish fandom but may I remind you even a broken clock is WRIGHT 2 times a day. Let’s all just enjoy what comes next as a squad.

Oh I get it you’re trolling right now? Scott can come get if he wants it playboy:) I have an open door policy… on another note, I’ll check these boys out live Wednesday to see what it really looks like. #atlhoe ( google it ) lol

[GAustex]

I dubbed you Miss Cleo and felt bad after it actually took off. I’m trying to not be an internet bully but don’t make Scott take you to the lab. Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t and Scott will find a way to bury you. He consistently removes snifferism from his views; which is hard for all of us given our childish fandom but may I remind you even a broken clock is WRIGHT 2 times a day. Let’s all just enjoy what comes next as a squad.

It was me crowned her Miss Cleo

[spursistan]

I haven't seen this mentioned, but how huge in retrospect Brian Wright refusal to include our 2025 pick in the Fox trade? that's a masterful job at calculating risks in decision-making..I would absolutely be livid if we ended up handing a potential Top 4 pick to the Kings..

[exstatic]

I haven't seen this mentioned, but how huge in retrospect Brian Wright refusal to include our 2025 pick in the Fox trade? that's a masterful job at calculating risks in decision-making..I would absolutely be livid if we ended up handing a potential Top 4 pick to the Kings..

Not to mention that he also kept LAST year’s #4 pick out of the trade.

[SpursBills]

I don't think it's hyperbole to say that this summer is literally going to be legacy-defining for Brian Wright. I have absolutely no idea what's the play here:

1. draft Harper @ 2
2. draft Bailey @ 2
3. trade 2 + Castle + 2 1sts for Giannis
4. trade 2 + Vassell for 7 + Trey Murphy + stuff
5. trade 2 + Castle / other stuff for Flagg

He's done a good job so far with asset acquisition and making more obvious trades, I'm excited to see what he does this summer with this unexpected lottery luck

[scott]

I don't think it's hyperbole to say that this summer is literally going to be legacy-defining for Brian Wright. I have absolutely no idea what's the play here:

1. draft Harper @ 2
2. draft Bailey @ 2
3. trade 2 + Castle + 2 1sts for Giannis
4. trade 2 + Vassell for 7 + Trey Murphy + stuff
5. trade 2 + Castle / other stuff for Flagg

He's done a good job so far with asset acquisition and making more obvious trades, I'm excited to see what he does this summer with this unexpected lottery luck

Indeed!

This #2 pick probably offers the most opportunities (you would naturally think #1, but in that case it is obvious you just take Flagg so there really isn't a lot of flexibility there)... but also the most pressure to "get it right". Brian Wright simultaneously gets his already enviable job EVEN MORE enviable, while seeing the heat on the seat turned up to 11... because the stakes have never been higher.

[ginobilized]

Possible that the Spurs become the 1st team in league history with 3 consecutive ROYs.

We are poised to have a great summer, unless those meddling friendship coalition kids spoil it for us.

[scott]

Possible that the Spurs become the 1st team in league history with 3 consecutive ROYs.

We are poised to have a great summer, unless those meddling friendship coalition kids spoil it for us.

The more good things happen for us, the more these meddling friends become a problem :lol

[Atl Spur]

We have leverage and that’s pretty dope!

[Ice009]

Possible that the Spurs become the 1st team in league history with 3 consecutive ROYs.

We are poised to have a great summer, unless those meddling friendship coalition kids spoil it for us.

That made me laugh out loud literally.

[exstatic]

Possible that the Spurs become the 1st team in league history with 3 consecutive ROYs.

We are poised to have a great summer, unless those meddling friendship coalition kids spoil it for us.

Two things work against that.
1, Cooper Flagg
2. Wemby/Fox/Castle. He’ll be fighting for touches. It helped Castle’s campaign a LOT when Wemby and Fox went down.

[Holt's Cat]

Definitely feels like on an even better trajectory with Castle, Fox, and presumably Harper added in last 12 months.

Pick 14 offers much promise as well.

[spursistan]

#2 was a stroke of luck, but this an incredible work by Brian Wright. He's amassed better future FRPs than elite assets hoarder like Ainge and Presti..That Boston swap has suddenly shot up in value after the Tatum Achilles injury.


https://x.com/esidery/status/1922300680355631581

[scott]

OKC and HOU’s war chests are still better, but the Spurs have (by far) the single best asset of the bunch right now in the #2 pick of this draft. Of course, that expires on draft day.

What the Spurs don’t have that OKC and HOU do is excess draft capital. Right now the Spurs only excess is this year’s #14. That limits how much we can and should be willing to add into a trade.

[RedAzSa]

What we lack in quantity, we make up for in quality. I love how the FO has cast a wide net with our future capital. In addition to having a ton of exciting talent now, we own a draft asset with high upside from FIVE other teams. The past 12 months has shown how quickly teams can rise and fall. I think at least one of these swaps pays off big down the line.

[Atl Spur]

Draft Harper….

[Atl Spur]

Definitely feels like on an even better trajectory with Castle, Fox, and presumably Harper added in last 12 months.

Pick 14 offers much promise as well.

Our projected three guard lineup will terrorize the league! All offering different skill sets but initiator qualities

[RC_Drunkford]

#2 was a stroke of luck, but this an incredible work by Brian Wright. He's amassed better future FRPs than elite assets hoarder like Ainge and Presti..That Boston swap has suddenly shot up in value after the Tatum Achilles injury.


https://x.com/esidery/status/1922300680355631581

yes those swaps are gold with how teams jump up in the lottery. Being able to add lottery talent once Wemby is on a max will be crucial. I wouldn't even try to package those picks, except Spurs 29. Other than that we still have a gang of 2nds that we can use for trades or maybe trade for a late 1st/more swaps.

[mudd]

Our projected three guard lineup will terrorize the league! All offering different skill sets but initiator qualities

[mudd]

three elite guards and wemby, whats there to think about!!!

[LeBowen]

the thing is the team didn't even get worse by much. There's not that much of a gap between White and Richardson when it comes to production

I'm sorry, but I had to bump this one. :lmao

[spurraider21]

OKC and HOU’s war chests are still better, but the Spurs have (by far) the single best asset of the bunch right now in the #2 pick of this draft. Of course, that expires on draft day.

What the Spurs don’t have that OKC and HOU do is excess draft capital. Right now the Spurs only excess is this year’s #14. That limits how much we can and should be willing to add into a trade.
i think Amen is in the conversation unless you consider him completely off the table for these purposes

[baseline bum]

OKC and HOU’s war chests are still better, but the Spurs have (by far) the single best asset of the bunch right now in the #2 pick of this draft. Of course, that expires on draft day.

What the Spurs don’t have that OKC and HOU do is excess draft capital. Right now the Spurs only excess is this year’s #14. That limits how much we can and should be willing to add into a trade.

If Harper ends up who he is projected to be the Spurs don't need to make big trades any more and all those swaps mean they're still be going to be able to add some decent talent with their own picks over the next six years so I'm good with not having the excess draft capital right now.

[baseline bum]

i think Amen is in the conversation unless you consider him completely off the table for these purposes

I'd be floored if the Rockets make him available. But if they do they're getting Giannis, no question.

[scott]

i think Amen is in the conversation unless you consider him completely off the table for these purposes

I'm only talking about picks. If we want to include players (who may or may not be on the table), the Spurs still obviously have the most valuable asset in the entire league (Wemby)

[scott]

If Harper ends up who he is projected to be the Spurs don't need to make big trades any more and all those swaps mean they're still be going to be able to add some decent talent with their own picks over the next six years so I'm good with not having the excess draft capital right now.

I agree. We're sitting pretty so long as Brian keeps doing a good job.

[RC_Drunkford]

I'm sorry, but I had to bump this one. :lmao

:lol I wasn't wrong though. We had DJ handling the ball and needed an offball shooter. White wasn't shooting 3s like he did in Boston back then and our team didn't lose anything that year by swapping him out for J-Rich. That doesn't mean I thought J-Rich was the better player.

[Atl Spur]

Cook

[heyheymymy]

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[Mnky]

Brian is filling roster spots with real NBA players instead of possible players one day. I like what they've been doing. Olynyk is a good rental and great trade bait for a big move if one comes open.

If we move on from vassell or Keldon, Jmac fits very nicely contract wise and ability. He's a good player for a reserve spot.

I honestly feel like Spurs are actually looking to make a real move for once. They have all the pieces to go out and be maintainable after.

[SpursBills]

So far Wright's proven himself to be good at:

- flipping assets for draft picks (Dejounte, Derozan, etc.)
- getting free assets by playing facilitator (Barnes)
- not overpaying in trades for star players (Fox)
- winning the margins by signing FAs/trades for cheap that fit within the overall vision (Kornet, Olynyk)
- recruiting solid coaches to support the team (Sweeney, Williamson)

Looking at the above, if you just look at his moves in the last calendar year, this is a very good GM who's at minimum above average, probably top 10 which may be enough with the Spurs' ridiculous lottery luck

Two major things that he has to really prove himself on:
- Non-top 4 pick drafting - high level GMs like Presti and Kleiman all have at least 1 elite mid-round draft pull (J-Dub) or a string of second round / undrafted hits (basically half the Grizzlies/Thunder roster). They've missed plenty, but these guys all have multiple hits playing crucial roles for their existing teams

- managing extensions for his own players - how Wright manages Sochan's contract and whether he's able to accurate gauge / predict his present and future value will be a huge test to see if he can make it into the next tier of GMs. In the future, whether he has the stones to trade his own high draft picks early (including Castle or Harper if the situation calls for it) if they don't deliver anticipated surplus value on their contracts.

[scott]

So far Wright's proven himself to be good at:

- flipping assets for draft picks (Dejounte, Derozan, etc.)
- getting free assets by playing facilitator (Barnes)
- not overpaying in trades for star players (Fox)
- winning the margins by signing FAs/trades for cheap that fit within the overall vision (Kornet, Olynyk)
- recruiting solid coaches to support the team (Sweeney, Williamson)

Looking at the above, if you just look at his moves in the last calendar year, this is a very good GM who's at minimum above average, probably top 10 which may be enough with the Spurs' ridiculous lottery luck

Two major things that he has to really prove himself on:
- Non-top 4 pick drafting - high level GMs like Presti and Kleiman all have at least 1 elite mid-round draft pull (J-Dub) or a string of second round / undrafted hits (basically half the Grizzlies/Thunder roster). They've missed plenty, but these guys all have multiple hits playing crucial roles for their existing teams

- managing extensions for his own players - how Wright manages Sochan's contract and whether he's able to accurate gauge / predict his present and future value will be a huge test to see if he can make it into the next tier of GMs. In the future, whether he has the stones to trade his own high draft picks early (including Castle or Harper if the situation calls for it) if they don't deliver anticipated surplus value on their contracts.

I'm pleased with Wright and approve of the high marks you give him, but I think you've left of the first major thing he has yet to really prove himself on: assembling a winning roster

[SpursFan86]

I'm pleased with Wright and approve of the high marks you give him, but I think you've left of the first major thing he has yet to really prove himself on: assembling a winning roster

This is kind of where I am. Yes, he’s made plenty of solid moves over the past several years…but the fact of the matter is that we still haven’t had a winning team in years. Maybe more importantly, the outlook of this team looks entirely different if the Spurs don’t luck into getting the #1 pick in 2023…not to mention the subsequent amazing luck to get #4 and #2 in 2024/2025.

I know luck always plays a part in team-building, but it’s just hard to shake the fact that it’s a massive part of our current outlook :lol Maybe Wright would’ve made different moves had things gone differently, and maybe they would’ve worked out great. But I personally can’t say I’m super confident that we’d be in a great spot had we not had such insanely good luck.

tl;dr: Wright has definitely proven himself as a “solid” GM, but I’m not ready to crown him one of the best in the league at this point.

[Ariel]

So far Wright's proven himself to be good at:

- flipping assets for draft picks (Dejounte, Derozan, etc.)
- getting free assets by playing facilitator (Barnes)
- not overpaying in trades for star players (Fox)
- winning the margins by signing FAs/trades for cheap that fit within the overall vision (Kornet, Olynyk)
- recruiting solid coaches to support the team (Sweeney, Williamson)

Looking at the above, if you just look at his moves in the last calendar year, this is a very good GM who's at minimum above average, probably top 10 which may be enough with the Spurs' ridiculous lottery luck

Two major things that he has to really prove himself on:
- Non-top 4 pick drafting - high level GMs like Presti and Kleiman all have at least 1 elite mid-round draft pull (J-Dub) or a string of second round / undrafted hits (basically half the Grizzlies/Thunder roster). They've missed plenty, but these guys all have multiple hits playing crucial roles for their existing teams

- managing extensions for his own players - how Wright manages Sochan's contract and whether he's able to accurate gauge / predict his present and future value will be a huge test to see if he can make it into the next tier of GMs. In the future, whether he has the stones to trade his own high draft picks early (including Castle or Harper if the situation calls for it) if they don't deliver anticipated surplus value on their contracts.
I overall have liked most of the moves since they made the decision to tank, but one other area where they have underwhelmed is finding talent under the radar, like other franchises have done (Indiana, Boston, etc). You could lump this together with the second round drafting issue, in a more general scouting issue. And you can also mention player development, though where one begins and the other ends isn't always so cut and dry. I think Brian Wright definitely gets a passing mark, but he's been helped tremendously by luck and some of the hardest tests remain. So far so good, but this season is an important one. We shall see.

[scottspurs]

The Spurs biggest issue coming into this offseason was by far rebounding. On paper that is now fixed. They added Luke Kornet, Kelly Olynyk, Sean Sweeney and Corliss Williamson. Victor Wembanyama will be a little stronger and better able to hold up in the paint. They drafted Dylan Harper who rebounded his position well in College. They drafted Carter Bryant who in theory could bolster the front court down the line.

Brian Wright made some mistakes early on as a GM with some of his draft picks but otherwise has done a great job. Seems like he gets better as a GM every season. The Mitch Johnson hiring was handpicked by Pop in my opinion so I’m not going to put that on Wright either way. Patience has been his calling card and it appears to be paying off. If the Spurs miss the playoffs next season we will see if that patience remains.