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Dejounte
01-16-2022, 07:53 PM
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slick'81
01-16-2022, 08:03 PM
The prodigal son has returned

Chinook
01-16-2022, 08:09 PM
Great news, as it's a sign they haven't given up on him playing this season. Hopefully he shows that he hasn't lost his agility. That more than his three-point shooting is likely why the team were willing to take the risk on his contract in the first place.

Leetonidas
01-16-2022, 08:11 PM
:tu

Robz4000
01-16-2022, 08:21 PM
He'll break his foot again a minute into his first game tbh.

Allan Rowe vs Wade
01-16-2022, 08:45 PM
He'll break his foot again a minute into his first game tbh.

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John B
01-16-2022, 08:49 PM
Great news. I’m really hoping he remains healthy and can help some in the bigs.

Dejounte
01-16-2022, 09:12 PM
https://youtu.be/mR3dpuUqxto

Atl Spur
01-16-2022, 09:31 PM
Nice!!!!

tbdog
01-16-2022, 10:53 PM
Was hoping to see what the team looks like with him in the rotation before the trade deadline, before making a decision on a Poeltl trade if spurs get respectable offers.

exstatic
01-16-2022, 11:07 PM
Was hoping to see what the team looks like with him in the rotation before the trade deadline, before making a decision on a Poeltl trade if spurs get respectable offers.

I serousLy doubt they’ll move Poeltl this season, but if Zollins pans out, they may move Jak this summer. It’s only 25 days until the deadline. Not really enough time to see what Zollins can do.

BackHome
01-16-2022, 11:30 PM
Again he has not played NBA basketball for over two years people really need to lower their expectations on him.

Atl Spur
01-16-2022, 11:52 PM
They’ve seen Collins behind the scenes…….

heyheymymy
01-17-2022, 01:12 AM
Again he has not played NBA basketball for over two years people really need to lower their expectations on him.

So only 5 LOB's incoming and not a 6peat?

pookenstein
01-17-2022, 04:53 AM
So only 5 LOB's incoming and not a 6peat?

I see 6 chips in 7 years, but I'm a glass-half-full kind of guy.

KingKev
01-17-2022, 06:31 AM
Good news. Will take a few months for him to get his conditioning back. Players evolve and he showed a nice 3pt touch before injuries, so my hope is even if some of the athleticism never comes back he can work on his ability to stretch the floor. Hoping for a solid backup big to open next season.

exstatic
01-17-2022, 09:25 AM
Good news. Will take a few months for him to get his conditioning back. Players evolve and he showed a nice 3pt touch before injuries, so my hope is even if some of the athleticism never comes back he can work on his ability to stretch the floor. Hoping for a solid backup big to open next season.

??? He’s been doing conditioning since he got here. Pop said around New Years that he just needed 3 on 3 and 5 on 5 drills, and he’d be good to play. Couldn’t do it then, because covid.

If all he brings to the table is 3 point shooting, waive him this summer. He would be no better than Landale, at 9X the price. What they saw in him was the floor spacing AND rim protection, like if you put Poeltl and Landale in a blender. That’s why they rolled the dice.

Degoat
01-17-2022, 09:27 AM
Y’all think he plays with the Austin spurs today or is this like a conditioning assignment?

KingKev
01-17-2022, 09:43 AM
??? He’s been doing conditioning since he got here. Pop said around New Years that he just needed 3 on 3 and 5 on 5 drills, and he’d be good to play. Couldn’t do it then, because covid.

If all he brings to the table is 3 point shooting, waive him this summer. He would be no better than Landale, at 9X the price. What they saw in him was the floor spacing AND rim protection, like if you put Poeltl and Landale in a blender. That’s why they rolled the dice.

Game conditioning is much different. I never said if 3 pt shooting is all he brings to the table just that he may not have some of the bounce he had before. Also it’s more like 3.5x Landale price.

rjv
01-17-2022, 10:43 AM
hope he gets on the floor tonight.

exstatic
01-17-2022, 11:21 AM
Game conditioning is much different. I never said if 3 pt shooting is all he brings to the table just that he may not have some of the bounce he had before. Also it’s more like 3.5x Landale price.

Jock makes about 900K. Zollins makes 7M. Not 9X, but also not 3.5X. Close to 8X.

If he doesn’t have his bounce and lateral movement soon, he IS Landale, at 8X the price. He needs to be a rim protector to be retained this summer.

Russ
01-17-2022, 11:29 AM
Big news. Feels like maybe the season is finally starting.

Dex
01-17-2022, 11:51 AM
Y’all think he plays with the Austin spurs today or is this like a conditioning assignment?

Probably more of the latter. Just practicing and conditioning with the team. Spurs have 6 games in the next 10 days, so I doubt they will be practicing much.

I'd be surprised if Collins actually sees in GLeague minutes, but it would be a good sign if he does...means he is ready for action.

John B
01-17-2022, 12:10 PM
If Zollins still has the lateral, it'd be great! KBD is doing a great job of what Spurs could expect from him, but Zollins is a definite upgrade and should be a more consistent scorer while also able to do some C duties

R. DeMurre
01-17-2022, 12:24 PM
Primo assigned too, so looks like we'll see them both tonight in Austin.

BatManu20
01-17-2022, 12:28 PM
The tank is over. Zach Collins aka Kevin McHale-light has arrived.

John B
01-17-2022, 12:56 PM
Primo assigned too, so looks like we'll see them both tonight in Austin.

Help get Zollins back to gameshape :ihit

Chinook
01-17-2022, 01:08 PM
If Zollins still has the lateral, it'd be great! KBD is doing a great job of what Spurs could expect from him, but Zollins is a definite upgrade and should be a more consistent scorer while also able to do some C duties

Collins has never been an upgrade to KBD. In his best year, he was still a net-negative guy. Hopefully he gets back to where he needs to be physically this year and then next shows some massive improvement, but I don't expect him to earn a rotation spot, especially not at the combo-forward minutes Keita is getting.

Chomag
01-17-2022, 01:24 PM
I seriously don't understand the hype here on this guy. Was he really even that great when on the rare times he was healthy ? I hope he works out but damn...

RC_Drunkford
01-17-2022, 01:28 PM
Ok so they getting him ready to get minutes with the main squad. My guess is like 3 G-League games and then they’ll bring him up, just like Landale. I really hope he can get close to his pre-injury self. The Zollins move panning out would be huge for this team.

Atl Spur
01-17-2022, 02:28 PM
Collins has never been an upgrade to KBD. In his best year, he was still a net-negative guy. Hopefully he gets back to where he needs to be physically this year and then next shows some massive improvement, but I don't expect him to earn a rotation spot, especially not at the combo-forward minutes Keita is getting.

Zach will be better at the four than KBD if healthy…….book it!

poopbox
01-17-2022, 03:29 PM
Sad times in spurs land when I am actually excited to see Collins play in the g league :cry

John B
01-17-2022, 03:44 PM
Sad times in spurs land when I am actually excited to see Collins play in the g league :cry

I think some of Spurs loses were they’re thin at the bigs rotation, including Poeltl being out. I think Zollins can really help in that if healthy. And I like the fight in him, the swagger that sometimes is lacking in our roster

Dverde
01-17-2022, 04:20 PM
How many games before Spurstalk start calling him a scrub and bum. He does have an impressive girlfriend.

daslicer
01-17-2022, 04:32 PM
From what I have heard from Blazer fans is that he's a taller poor man's version of David Lee.

RC_Drunkford
01-17-2022, 05:25 PM
From what I have heard from Blazer fans is that he's a taller poor man's version of David Lee.

David Lee was an All-Star at some point in his career

Mr. Body
01-17-2022, 05:29 PM
From what I have heard from Blazer fans is that he's a taller poor man's version of David Lee.

A really weird comparison since their games don't seem similar at all. Lee wasn't an outside threat, for one.

R. DeMurre
01-17-2022, 05:41 PM
A really weird comparison since their games don't seem similar at all. Lee wasn't an outside threat, for one.

David Lee's career 3pt% is kind of hilarious: 1 for 29, spread out over 14 seasons, for a 3.4%!

Dejounte
01-17-2022, 06:36 PM
He’s playing.

it is on right now.

collins is on the perimeter alot

ace3g
01-17-2022, 06:38 PM
https://twitter.com/austin_spurs/status/1483215029835079690

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1483221580905857024

ace3g
01-17-2022, 06:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkYgLYlincs

ace3g
01-17-2022, 07:19 PM
https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1483231753599078403

XDT76
01-17-2022, 07:24 PM
Unable to see the game how is Zollins and Primo performing. Seems like Zollins has the worst +/- and Primo has 4 TO in a half.

ace3g
01-17-2022, 07:26 PM
https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1483233649000468481

https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1483233100071120899

Dejounte
01-17-2022, 07:28 PM
I didn’t much watch much of Collins when he was with the Blazers. I tuned in the second quarter of this game. Collins reminds me so much of Luka Samanic. A version that has less handles, but more able to play in the interior without being pushed around like a softie.

Dejounte
01-17-2022, 08:00 PM
Yeah, so I liked what I saw. Tonight’s game kind of confirms my suspicion that it was Collins who pushed Luka out of the roster, and not KBD, or to better put it, Collins pushed Luka out first and then KBD was the nail in the coffin. I think that since Collins looks identical as a player to Luka, it speaks volumes about how the Spurs viewed Luka and that it was probably beyond a talent issue and moreso a locker room fit. Since Zach has been a Spur, he’s participated in so many local charities and looks like he gets along with many players on the roster. It’s interesting that the Spurs are hell bent on finding a player of this archetype… tall, agile, and can shoot 3’s. They started with Gay, then Lyles, then Luka, and now Zach. They ARE trying to get taller and they’re looking for a specific type. They just have not been successful… until perhaps maybe now? Time will tell…

heyheymymy
01-17-2022, 08:00 PM
Big news. Feels like maybe the season is finally starting.

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Dejounte
01-17-2022, 08:08 PM
What it looks like what we’ve got with Collins: a player who can play both 4 and 5, perhaps better than any other player on the roster. Landale is too slow for the 4. Thaddeus is too short and slow. Poeltl and Eubanks can’t shoot 3’s.

If you look back in time farther, we haven’t had a player who can play 4 and 5 since Boris Diaw. Lyles provided no shot blocking. LMA was too slow for the 4. Gay provided no interior presence. Samanic was too soft inside.

daslicer
01-17-2022, 08:10 PM
David Lee was an All-Star at some point in his career

I said poor man's David Lee not that he was going to be the actual David Lee. Safe to say a poor man's David Lee is never going to be an all-star.

Dejounte
01-17-2022, 08:11 PM
IMO, the main difference between Luka and Collins is that Luka loves to “hero ball” from the perimeter and show off his Youtube handles from the perimeter to drive to the hoop. Collins looks like he’s content with spotting up from 3 and you can dump the ball to him inside and he surprisingly has some nice post moves.

RC_Drunkford
01-17-2022, 08:19 PM
Collins stat line is terrible tbh. He might need a lot more reps in the G-League than Landale.

4-10 FG 8 PTS 1 RB 3 BLK 2 AST 1 STL 2 TO 3 PF 0-3 from 3

meanwhile Cacok dominated

RC_Drunkford
01-17-2022, 08:20 PM
I said poor man's David Lee not that he was going to be the actual David Lee. Safe to say a poor man's David Lee is never going to be an all-star.

he's nothing like David Lee. Taller, 3-point range, better defender. Lee was never a shotblocker or 3-point shooter. Collins has always been compared to Al Horford

Dejounte
01-17-2022, 08:22 PM
Collins stat line is terrible tbh. He might need a lot more reps in the G-League than Landale.

4-10 FG 8 PTS 1 RB 3 BLK 2 AST 1 STL 2 TO 3 PF 0-3 from 3

meanwhile Cacok dominated

Collins played limited minutes and it was one of those nights where the ball could have gone in but it didn’t. Zach also looked terribly winded and is clearly not ready for the real thing.

RC_Drunkford
01-17-2022, 08:25 PM
Collins played limited minutes and it was one of those nights where the ball could have gone in but it didn’t. Zach also looked terribly winded and is clearly not ready for the real thing.

had to be expected with how long he been out. Once he can string together some 20+ point performances he should be ready for minutes on the main squad

John B
01-17-2022, 08:27 PM
Collins stat line is terrible tbh. He might need a lot more reps in the G-League than Landale.

4-10 FG 8 PTS 1 RB 3 BLK 2 AST 1 STL 2 TO 3 PF 0-3 from 3

meanwhile Cacok dominated


https://youtu.be/D-JHzpfjT90

Russ
01-17-2022, 08:27 PM
Collins needs to play without injury. A bunch of games without injury.

That's the test, not any stat line.

PhantomDashCam
01-17-2022, 08:40 PM
Way too early for analysis but…

The player he reminds me (from limited game tape mind you), is Brad Miller.

He clearly knows how to play and fill a role. Looks like he can be an initiator from the elbow which would help add some versatility to our sets.
Not seeing much of what can make him an NBA 4 atm unless against outlier teams such as Cleveland.

ace3g
01-17-2022, 08:51 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1464495177222004737/WuehN0-d_normal.jpg

Ty Jäger @TheTyJager
(https://twitter.com/TheTyJager) 2m (https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1483255099711500289)
Zach Collins says that he'll play one more game for Austin on Friday and then the team and him will move forward from there #PorVida (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23PorVida)

Mr. Body
01-17-2022, 09:01 PM
Yeah, so I liked what I saw. Tonight’s game kind of confirms my suspicion that it was Collins who pushed Luka out of the roster, and not KBD, or to better put it, Collins pushed Luka out first and then KBD was the nail in the coffin. I think that since Collins looks identical as a player to Luka, it speaks volumes about how the Spurs viewed Luka and that it was probably beyond a talent issue and moreso a locker room fit. Since Zach has been a Spur, he’s participated in so many local charities and looks like he gets along with many players on the roster. It’s interesting that the Spurs are hell bent on finding a player of this archetype… tall, agile, and can shoot 3’s. They started with Gay, then Lyles, then Luka, and now Zach. They ARE trying to get taller and they’re looking for a specific type. They just have not been successful… until perhaps maybe now? Time will tell…

Interesting thoughts. Luka was such an asshole, a misanthrope narcissist and a Balkan version of a MAGAt. I'm glad I don't have to see him do his dumb dribble-behind-the-back move every time he drove that got blown up over and over. I wonder if he even went to those after-game dinners Pop likes to throw, or if he just sat there surly and moping.

Collins is well-coached from Gonzaga and seems to be a culture fit.

Rocalcio
01-17-2022, 09:01 PM
Collins stat line is terrible tbh. He might need a lot more reps in the G-League than Landale.

4-10 FG 8 PTS 1 RB 3 BLK 2 AST 1 STL 2 TO 3 PF 0-3 from 3

meanwhile Cacok dominated

The guy is rusty, no surprise here.

Degoat
01-17-2022, 10:45 PM
I didn’t watch the whole game but I thought he moved around relatively good

BatManu20
01-18-2022, 03:20 AM
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BatManu20
01-18-2022, 03:21 AM
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cd98
01-18-2022, 06:30 AM
Hey I’m excited to see how this guy does. But he’s missed a lot of time and is still getting in game shape. I’m sure within a few games he’d dominate.

KingKev
01-18-2022, 06:58 AM
Collins stat line is terrible tbh. He might need a lot more reps in the G-League than Landale.

4-10 FG 8 PTS 1 RB 3 BLK 2 AST 1 STL 2 TO 3 PF 0-3 from 3

meanwhile Cacok dominated

Cacok has been dominating all year and barely gotten burn with the big club when we were down 5+ players. Sounds like Collins will be with the main team in a few games so long as his body feels good.

KingKev
01-18-2022, 07:06 AM
Collins needs to play without injury. A bunch of games without injury.

That's the test, not any stat line.

Good point. Also why it makes sense to ease him into game play over the next few months.

Em-City
01-18-2022, 07:09 AM
İs this guy better than Jock?

Atl Spur
01-18-2022, 07:28 AM
İs this guy better than Jock?

If heathy, yes. They could play together too …..

Russ
01-18-2022, 10:25 AM
İs this guy better than Jock?

Collins was the 10th pick in the 2017 draft. Jock went undrafted the next year.

Both are listed at 6'11" and both can shoot the three.

Hopefully their very different paths converge at the alter of Spurs success. :)

exstatic
01-18-2022, 10:55 AM
Collins is a better rim protector. If he’s healthy, he’s springier and better laterally.

Leetonidas
01-18-2022, 11:05 AM
I have this feeling that the Spurs want this dude at the 4 and not the 5

Dex
01-18-2022, 11:08 AM
Second half Spurs could be a lot of fun to watch with Collins and Primo in the fold (especially if Forbes gets shipped).

We probably won't win a ton of games...but it will be interesting.

TDomination
01-18-2022, 11:18 AM
Collins stat line is terrible tbh. He might need a lot more reps in the G-League than Landale.

4-10 FG 8 PTS 1 RB 3 BLK 2 AST 1 STL 2 TO 3 PF 0-3 from 3

meanwhile Cacok dominated

dudes been out over a year
he's gonna be rusty
he's gonna have to regain confidence in his foot in order for his game to return

TDomination
01-18-2022, 11:20 AM
I have this feeling that the Spurs want this dude at the 4 and not the 5

DJ/White/Johnson/Zollins/Poeltl

perhaps for our SL?

MultiTroll
01-18-2022, 11:36 AM
Collins stat line is terrible tbh. He might need a lot more reps in the G-League than Landale.

4-10 FG 8 PTS 1 RB 3 BLK 2 AST 1 STL 2 TO 3 PF 0-3 from 3

meanwhile Cacok dominated
And Cacock gets no run because....?

A Cacock thread now if you'd like to respond there.

heyheymymy
01-18-2022, 11:56 AM
DJ/White/Johnson/Zollins/Poeltl

perhaps for our SL?

Really solves a lot of the Spurs positional fit problems. Bolsters the bench too. Bring MCD off the bench to exploit the 2nd string but you still have the spacing in the starting 5 with Zollins hopefully replacing MCD's range accuracy.

heyheymymy
01-18-2022, 12:01 PM
The agility and rim protection potentially from Zollins makes Zollins/Poeltl an interesting pairing defensively.

One of Jock or Poeltl in at all times seems to secure the mins at the 5 better and the addition of Zollins slotting likely at the 4 might be just enough size to hide the current vulnerability.

RC_Drunkford
01-18-2022, 01:07 PM
And Cacock gets no run because....?

A Cacock thread now if you'd like to respond there.

he can't shoot. Other than that he's an NBA player. If he had a 3-point shot he would take KBDs spot

John B
01-18-2022, 01:25 PM
Zollins playing with Keldon will be a lot of yelling tbh

exstatic
01-18-2022, 03:08 PM
he can't shoot. Other than that he's an NBA player. If he had a 3-point shot he would take KBDs spot

Nope. KBD is a more versatile defender, and is shooting 34% from long, right now. The three ball would get him on the 15 man roster, though. He be an energizer in games when we get worked on the boards.

MannyIsGod
01-18-2022, 04:08 PM
Cacock definitely looked pretty good at times. I don't think he's shown nearly enough to be considered the prospect KBD is right now, but there's definitely athletic potential there.

exstatic
01-18-2022, 04:44 PM
Cacock definitely looked pretty good at times. I don't think he's shown nearly enough to be considered the prospect KBD is right now, but there's definitely athletic potential there.

Agreed. I'm not sure he can switch onto guards like KBD, and KBD is shooting 34% from 3 in the NBA. There's some potential there for a deep bench slot.

What a win to cut Metu and pick up KBD. They were picked with consecutive second round picks, KBD first. I guess that's how quickly talent can drop off in a draft.

KingKev
01-18-2022, 05:07 PM
Agreed. I'm not sure he can switch onto guards like KBD, and KBD is shooting 34% from 3 in the NBA. There's some potential there for a deep bench slot.

What a win to cut Metu and pick up KBD. They were picked with consecutive second round picks, KBD first. I guess that's how quickly talent can drop off in a draft.

Talent in the draft, especially in the second round is all over the place. I don’t think this a matter of how quickly talent can drop off. Also their careers are pretty comparable across the board:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2018.html

TD 21
01-18-2022, 11:57 PM
DJ/White/Johnson/Zollins/Poeltl

perhaps for our SL?

:lmao That lineup is untenable in today's NBA. This notion of Collins being able to credibly play the four needs to die.

Dejounte
01-19-2022, 12:37 AM
:lmao That lineup is untenable in today's NBA. This notion of Collins being able to credibly play the four needs to die.

Do you say that because of his injury history affecting his prior mobility or because you don’t believe he had enough mobility and/or 3 point shooting in the first place? If it’s the latter, I think there’s room for a surprise. It seems the four was what most Blazers fans had envisioned for him before he went down again with an injury.

Atl Spur
01-19-2022, 12:55 AM
He can play the 4 & 5……..wise up TD 21

RC_Drunkford
01-19-2022, 01:01 AM
He seems to not have lost any mobility. I like him playing the 5, since he‘s a good rim protector, but he‘s definitely mobile enough to play the 4 and stay in front of guards

TD 21
01-19-2022, 05:13 PM
Do you say that because of his injury history affecting his prior mobility or because you don’t believe he had enough mobility and/or 3 point shooting in the first place? If it’s the latter, I think there’s room for a surprise. It seems the four was what most Blazers fans had envisioned for him before he went down again with an injury.

All of the above, plus his lack of handle. Fours are now oversized threes, save for unicorn style bigs who can get be playing alongside a complementary sort (usually a rim runner who can cross match) for stretches. He's neither.

That was a few years ago and out of necessity given that Nurkic was their third best player and they lacked the assets/financial flexibility to replace Aminu.

Dex
01-19-2022, 06:27 PM
Not sure why there is this debate of whether he will play the 4 or 5. The NBA is more positionless than ever.

Hell, even Timmy is known as the greatest power forward ever even though he spent a lot of time playing center.

There are certain guys that fit the "center only" stereotype like Eubanks, but I think Collins' skillset should allow him to be PF/C combo as long as his foot doesn't try to fall off again.

TD 21
01-19-2022, 06:45 PM
Not in this sense though. That's more so for moving up the positional spectrum as opposed to down.

Given the lack of a surefire backup four and size at the position in general, it's not impossible we might occasionally see him alongside Landale in certain matchups. It'll just be a function of roster construction and not his being able to credibly play it.

Chinook
01-19-2022, 06:47 PM
The NBA isn't really more positionless than it was before. It's more that smaller scoring guards are now unambiguously SGs instead of PGs that need a guy like Manu to work, and everyone else has been pushed up a position to compensate, ultimately removing the distinction between non-combo-forward PFs and centers. So PGs still exist and are usually 6-4 and under. SGs are now anywhere from 6-5 to 6-3, SFs are between 6-7 and 6-5, PFs between 6-9 and 6-6 and centers are 6-9 and up. A seven-footer at PF only works if that player can win the matchup with his counterpart. That's either due to the larger guy helping the defense or taking advantage of the smaller player on offense. Back in the day, that's how it worked, and small-ball PFs were relatively rare because they couldn't be expected to guard bigs. Now, they don't have to guard them due both to the rule changes that make aggressive inside play harder to pull off without getting fouls and the smaller forwards being able to win with three-point shooting.

Collins has never been a good NBA player. I hope that changes, but folks are kidding themselves when they try to pretend otherwise. Nothing about him offensively is going to make him win his match-up, so he's going to have to be able to defend modern PFs in their environment to have any chance. If you look at Collins' best year (18/19), you'll see that he barely played PF and only did so with Meyers Leonard, who is basically a combo-big himself. It's like how Cacock and Landale played together. Replacing McDermott with Collins would likely be a major disaster for the offense.

BackHome
01-19-2022, 06:59 PM
Yep, Collins is going to have Zero input on who we select in this years draft. I hope he comes in though hungry can stay healthy and give us a good bench player sixth or eighth kinda guy

poopbox
01-20-2022, 12:12 AM
I would like Collins at the 4...but that means Keldon or McBuckets to the bench which is just about all of our 3 point shooting in a starting lineup. I assume he starts getting some spot minutes at the 5 and then Pop takes it from there...

rjv
01-20-2022, 12:16 PM
i'm not hoping that collins is better than mcbuckets. i'm hoping that he's better than eubanks.

Atl Spur
01-20-2022, 12:59 PM
I would like Collins at the 4...but that means Keldon or McBuckets to the bench which is just about all of our 3 point shooting in a starting lineup. I assume he starts getting some spot minutes at the 5 and then Pop takes it from there...

I could see that……

KingKev
01-20-2022, 01:04 PM
None of McLovin, Keldon or Zollins are starting 4 material. They should at most be playing the 4 only situationally and ideally
in a backup capacity.

John B
01-20-2022, 01:28 PM
None of McLovin, Keldon or Zollins are starting 4 material. They should at most be playing the 4 only situationally and ideally
in a backup capacity.

depends on the matchup. Last night Keldon wasn’t overpowered by OKC’s small line up. Other times, against a bigger athletic guys, KBD could start. KBD is actually becoming durable, can defend 1-4 or even 5. Let’s see how much mobility does Zollins on those legs. It would be great to have a mobile big who can shoot if ever

R. DeMurre
01-20-2022, 01:33 PM
Saying the current NBA is "positionless" is the great modern day cliche of basketball analysis... it's not. A bunch of players are capable of sliding up or down one position, and a couple-- Giannis and Lebron-- can potentially play all five positions, but outside of that most players are relatively locked into their roles on teams. No one is starting Gobert at PG or Bryn Forbes at PF, and it's not like teams from the past haven't successfully experimented with positional adjustments before. The 1996 Bulls were the most successful team in history and started two SGs while relying on their SF to act as de facto PG on most offensive sets, but they had a traditional center and traditional (though slightly undersized) PF. The 2016 Warriors had a very traditional PG, a traditional SG, and a very traditional C. They had guys like Draymond and Iguodala who were versatile and could slide up or down a position, but overall were still adhering as a team to traditional roles. Last year's champs the Bucks had one guy who could pretty much play any position, a very strong combo guard in Jrue, and a swing player in Middleton who could occasionally slide up to PF, but most of the rest of the team slotted pretty traditionally into recognizable positions.

RC_Drunkford
01-20-2022, 01:57 PM
The main thing Collins should provide is solid rim protection off the bench. I think a Collins/Landale front court coming off the bench could work

JeffDuncan
01-20-2022, 02:25 PM
The main thing Collins should provide is solid rim protection off the bench. I think a Collins/Landale front court coming off the bench could work


That may be optimistic. By the stats, Eubanks is a significantly better shot blocker than Zollins. But we shall see.

Atl Spur
01-20-2022, 02:36 PM
That may be optimistic. By the stats, Eubanks is a significantly better shot blocker than Zollins. But we shall see.

I’d take a healthy Collins over Eubanks 10/10 times! Not even close from a skills standpoint

John B
01-20-2022, 03:26 PM
I’d take a healthy Collins over Eubanks 10/10 times! Not even close from a skills standpoint

Eubanks would squash Collins like grapes :lol. But yeah on skills, Collins >>>> Eubanks.
That Eubanks block inside the net though and he was puzzled what he did wrong :lol

Atl Spur
01-20-2022, 03:57 PM
Eubanks would squash Collins like grapes :lol. But yeah on skills, Collins >>>> Eubanks.
That Eubanks block inside the net though and he was puzzled what he did wrong :lol

Squash like grapes? Nah, I doubt that.

exstatic
01-20-2022, 04:35 PM
That may be optimistic. By the stats, Eubanks is a significantly better shot blocker than Zollins. But we shall see.

Rim protection isn’t the same thing a shot blocking. Marcus Camby was a high level shot blocker, but you could score in the paint on his teams. Rim protection is proper positioning and contesting, limiting the FG% in the restricted area. Think Tiago Splitter.

RC_Drunkford
01-20-2022, 05:02 PM
That may be optimistic. By the stats, Eubanks is a significantly better shot blocker than Zollins. But we shall see.

Collins in his Portland days had very good rim protection stats. Far better than what Eubanks is capable of

MannyIsGod
01-20-2022, 07:05 PM
Did anyone see how he did in the Austin game last night? Did he play?

Edit: Nevermind I see he didn't play. Did he get recalled?

KingKev
01-20-2022, 07:13 PM
Did anyone see how he did in the Austin game last night? Did he play?

Edit: Nevermind I see he didn't play. Did he get recalled?

Didn’t play, still with Austin though

Robz4000
01-20-2022, 07:20 PM
Did his foot implode already?

Atl Spur
01-20-2022, 07:46 PM
Did his foot implode already?

Hopefully not.

RC_Drunkford
01-20-2022, 08:00 PM
Did anyone see how he did in the Austin game last night? Did he play?

Edit: Nevermind I see he didn't play. Did he get recalled?

He's not playing road games

Ocotillo
01-20-2022, 08:04 PM
Did anyone see how he did in the Austin game last night? Did he play?

Edit: Nevermind I see he didn't play. Did he get recalled? He was on the Spurs bench in street clothes last night, SA Spurs that is.

exstatic
01-21-2022, 08:11 AM
I think he’s scheduled to play in Austin, tonight, and then be recalled and hopefully activated.

Ocotillo
01-21-2022, 08:36 AM
He said in an interview he thought he would be in Austin tonight and then his status would be revisted.

BackHome
01-21-2022, 12:33 PM
I heard he is going to play 4 Austin games before getting any playing time with the big boys. Which makes since cause you could tell he was not yet in basketball condition his first game back and ZERO reason to rush him back

KingKev
01-21-2022, 12:40 PM
I heard he is going to play 4 Austin games before getting any playing time with the big boys. Which makes since cause you could tell he was not yet in basketball condition his first game back and ZERO reason to rush him back

He basically said they will reassess after tonight’s game. Depends on how his body feels. I’d leave him in Austin for a few weeks if it were up to me. Main club is at full strength and probably want to find some minutes for Juancho. Only reason to rush to get him NBA time is if you are seriously considering moving Jak at the deadline dependent on Collins’ play.

KingKev
01-21-2022, 05:27 PM
https://uproxx.com/dimemag/zach-collins-road-to-recovery-interview-part-one/

John B
01-21-2022, 05:48 PM
https://uproxx.com/dimemag/zach-collins-road-to-recovery-interview-part-one/

That’s a long read :lol. But yeah, going through all that and being patient, I think it defines character. He loves basketball and wants to get better. If it all pans out, and he hasn’t lost his lateral mobility, the Spurs would’ve picked up a very good player. Jalen Rose compared him to Laimbeer. Besides the dirty plays, for his grits and what he could do as a mobile big. He could be a diamond in a rough for the Spurs.

KingKev
01-21-2022, 05:50 PM
That’s a long read :lol. But yeah, going through all that and being patient, I think it defines character. He loves basketball and wants to get better. If it all pans out, and he hasn’t lost his lateral mobility, the Spurs would’ve picked up a very good player. Jalen Rose compared him to Laimbeer. Besides the dirty plays, for his grits and what he could do as a mobile big. He could be a diamond in a rough for the Spurs.

I probably should have just summarized lol but yeah at least it shows how hungry he is to get out there and play again. If his body allows for it he is going to be a solid backup for us.

John B
01-21-2022, 06:06 PM
I probably should have just summarized lol but yeah at least it shows how hungry he is to get out there and play again. If his body allows for it he is going to be a solid backup for us.

Portland was starting him when he got hurt. A solid backup is great, but he was a lottery pick and could still be our starting PF if everything pans out. Keldon I’m afraid is just too overpowered at 4, and really plays more like a 3 and D very little on the D. Yup, I’m hoping Zollins is Spurs answer on 4 and help Poeltl on the paint.

KingKev
01-21-2022, 06:11 PM
Portland was starting him when he got hurt. A solid backup is great, but he was a lottery pick and could still be our starting PF if everything pans out. Keldon I’m afraid is just too overpowered at 4, and really plays more like a 3 and D very little on the D. Yup, I’m hoping Zollins is Spurs answer on 4 and help Poeltl on the paint.

We have an incredible amount of cap space and are likely picking in the top 10 range the next few years. We can do better for our starters. I’m hoping for the best in Zollins but if Jak and Zollins are your long term starting 4 and 5 we are eternally fked.

exstatic
01-21-2022, 06:21 PM
We have an incredible amount of cap space and are likely picking in the top 10 range the next few years. We can do better for our starters. I’m hoping for the best in Zollins but if Jak and Zollins are your long term starting 4 and 5 we are eternally fked.

Our roster has 6 of our FRPs, DJ, White, Lonnie, Keldon, Devin, and Primo. Those players lack size, so if you happen upon a former lottery pick like Zollins, and maybe Smith too, you go for it. Other than Poeltl, most of the rest of the roster are just guys…Eubanks, Young, Landale. We only have one FRP for the next 3 drafts, so that would be pretty slow roster turnover. There’s absolutely no reason you don’t keep Zollins if he’s healthy, sign Smith, and draft a big this year. Three lottery and former lottery bigs is not a problem in my book. If Zollins shows out, he’ll probably leave the year after Poeltl. If you sign Smith this summer, his contract would end the year after that. You don’t let them all walk, but it would be good if they all played so well that it was a tough decision. You could also maybe leverage one or more into draft capital if there is a logjam.

John B
01-21-2022, 06:24 PM
We have an incredible amount of cap space and are likely picking in the top 10 range the next few years. We can do better for our starters. I’m hoping for the best in Zollins but if Jak and Zollins are your long term starting 4 and 5 we are eternally fked.

Yup… And I’m guilty picking on Poeltl. But I feel Poeltl could be way better along side another big (or at least not a 6’4 PF). It’s when Poeltl helps that his big guy ally op on him. KBD is actually very good. He can defend 1-4 and arguably small 5. But I like that swagger in Zollins that Spurs sorely miss. Agree Spurs need to draft an athletic big or I don’t know what FA brings. But for now, I’m rooting for Zollins. Laimbeer!! :lol

KingKev
01-21-2022, 06:27 PM
Our roster has 6 of our FRPs, DJ, White, Lonnie, Keldon, Devin, and Primo. Those players lack size, so if you happen upon a former lottery pick like Zollins, and maybe Smith too, you go for it. Other than Poeltl, most of the rest of the roster are just guys…Eubanks, Young, Landale. We only have one FRP for the next 3 drafts, so that would be pretty slow roster turnover.

I don’t even know what you are arguing here. I like Zollins potential but am hoping we can upgrade our starting lineup via what is likely a few top lottery picks in the next few years and an abundance of cap space.

Not sure where you got the idea that we only have one FRP for the next 3 drafts. We own all of our future FRPs.

XDT76
01-21-2022, 06:33 PM
Our roster has 6 of our FRPs, DJ, White, Lonnie, Keldon, Devin, and Primo. Those players lack size, so if you happen upon a former lottery pick like Zollins, and maybe Smith too, you go for it. Other than Poeltl, most of the rest of the roster are just guys…Eubanks, Young, Landale. We only have one FRP for the next 3 drafts, so that would be pretty slow roster turnover. There’s absolutely no reason you don’t keep Zollins if he’s healthy, sign Smith, and draft a big this year. Three lottery and former lottery bigs is not a problem in my book. If Zollins shows out, he’ll probably leave the year after Poeltl. If you sign Smith this summer, his contract would end the year after that. You don’t let them all walk, but it would be good if they all played so well that it was a tough decision. You could also maybe leverage one or more into draft capital if there is a logjam.

Where did you get that we have 1 FRP in next 3 years? We own all our FRP and together with the Chicago FRP, we have 4 FRP in the next 3 years

ace3g
01-21-2022, 06:37 PM
Game starts at 7:30 pm CST


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFn7i82li_8&feature=emb_title

KingKev
01-21-2022, 06:47 PM
Our roster has 6 of our FRPs, DJ, White, Lonnie, Keldon, Devin, and Primo. Those players lack size, so if you happen upon a former lottery pick like Zollins, and maybe Smith too, you go for it. Other than Poeltl, most of the rest of the roster are just guys…Eubanks, Young, Landale. We only have one FRP for the next 3 drafts, so that would be pretty slow roster turnover. There’s absolutely no reason you don’t keep Zollins if he’s healthy, sign Smith, and draft a big this year. Three lottery and former lottery bigs is not a problem in my book. If Zollins shows out, he’ll probably leave the year after Poeltl. If you sign Smith this summer, his contract would end the year after that. You don’t let them all walk, but it would be good if they all played so well that it was a tough decision. You could also maybe leverage one or more into draft capital if there is a logjam.

Okay yes I agree with this. I was simply stating we are going to have many opportunities to upgrade this roster the next few years so while there may be a time when a Collins/Jak starting frontline is our best alternative I’d hope we can do better. Collins is a big question mark although I think there is a good chance he turns into a steal, I’m not convinced he is going to be that 20/10 starting big we so desperately need. I’m more confident, if healthy he could be our first quality backup big for both the 4 and 5 on a reasonable salary.

exstatic
01-21-2022, 07:04 PM
Where did you get that we have 1 FRP in next 3 years? We own all our FRP and together with the Chicago FRP, we have 4 FRP in the next 3 years

Bad way of stating it. One each for the next 3 drafts, so that would take us up to 8 FRPs on the roster, assuming Lonnie’s gone. That leaves 7 roster spots that could be filled, depending on who goes and who stays.

exstatic
01-21-2022, 07:12 PM
Okay yes I agree with this. I was simply stating we are going to have many opportunities to upgrade this roster the next few years so while there may be a time when a Collins/Jak starting frontline is our best alternative I’d hope we can do better. Collins is a big question mark although I think there is a good chance he turns into a steal, I’m not convinced he is going to be that 20/10 starting big we so desperately need. I’m more confident, if healthy he could be our first quality backup big for both the 4 and 5 on a reasonable salary.

I think the 20/10 big will eventually go the way of the dinosaurs. Premier bigs in 5 years will be able to shoot from 3, provide rim protection, rebound in space, and be able to switch onto smaller players and not be embarrassed.

KingKev
01-21-2022, 07:22 PM
I think the 20/10 big will eventually go the way of the dinosaurs. Premier bigs in 5 years will be able to shoot from 3, provide rim protection, rebound in space, and be able to switch onto smaller players and not be embarrassed.

Oh I want my 20/10 guy to be doing all that you mention above best believe. I’m not saying we desperately need a traditional 20/10 big I’m saying we need a new age big to be one of our top 3 players…. If the talent is there the stats will follow. If Jak is going to be our long term 5 your going to need a complimentary top tier big as his running mate if you want to compete in this league.

John B
01-21-2022, 07:53 PM
I think the 20/10 big will eventually go the way of the dinosaurs. Premier bigs in 5 years will be able to shoot from 3, provide rim protection, rebound in space, and be able to switch onto smaller players and not be embarrassed.

Why can’t it be a 25/7/5/2 SF? I think Devin can get there, or Spurs can trade for. But it doesn’t have to be a 20/10 big. Collins doesn’t need to be a 20/10. Murray needs another capable scorer to take some of the scoring pressure, ideally who can iso when games get slower, a SF, a SG. It doesn’t have to be a big.

tonight...you
01-21-2022, 08:26 PM
Why can’t it be a 25/7/5/2 SF? I think Devin can get there, or Spurs can trade for. But it doesn’t have to be a 20/10 big. Collins doesn’t need to be a 20/10. Murray needs another capable scorer to take some of the scoring pressure, ideally who can iso when games get slower, a SF, a SG. It doesn’t have to be a big.
Dang.
That's dang near Kobe numbers bro.

ace3g
01-21-2022, 09:16 PM
Austin Spurs




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DREB
REB
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PF
STL
TO
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Morris
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628537/)

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12
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Cacok
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629719/)

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0
13


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Collins
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628380/)

23
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John B
01-21-2022, 09:39 PM
Dang.
That's dang near Kobe numbers bro.

Notice my avatar? :lol

ace3g
01-21-2022, 09:52 PM
Austin Spurs


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Morris
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628537/) 30
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Cacok
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629719/) 18
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13


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Collins
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628380/) 23
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14
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15
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3
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3
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1
0
13


Joshua
Primo
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1630563/) 11
SG
18
6-8
2-3
2-2
21
0
2
2
6
1
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16

ace3g
01-21-2022, 10:27 PM
Austin Spurs


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Morris
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628537/) 30
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27
4-8
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24
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6
6
3
3
3
2
1
2
12


Devontae
Cacok
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629719/) 18
PF
27
9-14
2-4
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4
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9
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21


Zach
Collins
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628380/) 23
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23
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1-2
1-2
15
2
3
5
0
4
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2
1
0
20


Joshua
Primo
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1630563/) 11
SG
28
6-13
2-3
2-2
19
1
2
3
7
2
0
1
2
0
16

ace3g
01-21-2022, 10:38 PM
Austin Spurs


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Jaylen
Morris
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628537/) 30
SF
27
4-8
0-0
2-2
24
0
6
6
3
3
3
2
1
2
12


Devontae
Cacok
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629719/) 18
PF
27
9-14
2-4
1-3
18
4
5
9
0
3
2
3
0
0
21


Zach
Collins
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628380/) 23
C
23
9-13
1-2
1-2
15
2
3
5
0
4
0
2
1
0
20


Joshua
Primo
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1630563/) 11
SG
28
6-13
2-3
2-2
19
1
2
3
7
2
0
1
2
0
16

John B
01-21-2022, 10:44 PM
I might just watch this game. Collins with 20?

Mr. Body
01-21-2022, 10:49 PM
I'd love to see more rebounds, but we may see him sooner than I thought.

ace3g
01-21-2022, 10:49 PM
22

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Morris
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628537/) 30
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4
3
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Devontae
Cacok
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629719/) 18
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5
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0
3
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3
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23


Zach
Collins
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628380/) 23
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25
10-16
1-2
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12
2
3
5
0
4
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22


Joshua
Primo
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1630563/) 11
SG
31
6-13
2-3
2-2
16
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2
3
8
2
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2
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16

ace3g
01-21-2022, 10:55 PM
https://twitter.com/nbagleague/status/1484735895295217666

Ice009
01-21-2022, 10:58 PM
Nice. Hope to see him play for the Spurs very soon.

offset formation
01-21-2022, 11:01 PM
Bad way of stating it. One each for the next 3 drafts, so that would take us up to 8 FRPs on the roster, assuming Lonnie’s gone. That leaves 7 roster spots that could be filled, depending on who goes and who stays.

Lonnie just bought a house here like a week ago. Seems to me you'd wait another 4 or so months until you see if the team is gonna match any offers unless your agent is hearing they are likely to make a competitive offer. Just doesn't make sense to buy this late in your tenure.

Ice009
01-21-2022, 11:04 PM
Lonnie just bought a house here like a week ago. Seems to me you'd wait another 4 or so months until you see if the team is gonna match any offers unless your agent is hearing they are likely to make a competitive offer. Just doesn't make sense to buy this late in your tenure.

Yeah, that doesn't make sense to buy one this late in the season if you weren't sure you'd be coming back. Unless he really likes it in SA and is planning to live during the off-season. I wonder if Kawhi's mom still lives here (I am assuming so as I recall him building her a pretty big house, so I guess she liked living in SA)?

offset formation
01-21-2022, 11:06 PM
https://twitter.com/nbagleague/status/1484735895295217666

Why doesn't he go up with power? This drives me nuts. He's exactly like Poeltl inside with finesse, but at least he can stretch the court.

offset formation
01-21-2022, 11:13 PM
Yeah, that doesn't make sense to buy one this late in the season if you weren't sure you'd be coming back. Unless he really likes it in SA and is planning to live during the off-season. I wonder if Kawhi's mom still lives here (I am assuming so as I recall him building her a pretty big house, so I guess she liked living in SA)?

Always possible I guess. As for neph and that fool's mom, I always just assumed she left after he went back to LA. I know she stayed here instead of moving while that fool was in Toronto.

John B
01-21-2022, 11:42 PM
Why doesn't he go up with power? This drives me nuts. He's exactly like Poeltl inside with finesse, but at least he can stretch the court.

Nah he’s alright. He’ll finish them with authority. But I like the way he has the feel for the game, nothing hurried. Looking on his 2nd game.

Mr. Body
01-22-2022, 02:19 AM
Why doesn't he go up with power? This drives me nuts. He's exactly like Poeltl inside with finesse, but at least he can stretch the court.

Dude's still dealing with a fucked up foot. I'd rather not press it. Two points is two points.

KingKev
01-22-2022, 06:29 AM
Yeah, that doesn't make sense to buy one this late in the season if you weren't sure you'd be coming back. Unless he really likes it in SA and is planning to live during the off-season. I wonder if Kawhi's mom still lives here (I am assuming so as I recall him building her a pretty big house, so I guess she liked living in SA)?

He’s already made 12m in his career. He bought a 550k home. His next contract will probably be another 2-5mm a year no matter where he signs. That home could easily be used/viewed as an investment property and hardly an indication of whether he will be in San Antonio long term.

KingKev
01-22-2022, 06:30 AM
Dude's still dealing with a fucked up foot. I'd rather not press it. Two points is two points.

Agreed, although at first look he looks like he has lost some bounce. Still finishes much nicer than Jak around the rim.

KingKev
01-22-2022, 06:36 AM
Why can’t it be a 25/7/5/2 SF? I think Devin can get there, or Spurs can trade for. But it doesn’t have to be a 20/10 big. Collins doesn’t need to be a 20/10. Murray needs another capable scorer to take some of the scoring pressure, ideally who can iso when games get slower, a SF, a SG. It doesn’t have to be a big.

if we are going to compete at a high level both a top tier 2/3 and a top tier 4 are necessary in my mind with Murray continuing to do a little bit of everything on both sides of the ball. I don’t see anyone on this roster with top tier ability. Devin has a long way to go if he is going to become a main scoring threat. I understand Primo is young but the optimism around him at this point is just that.

Allan Rowe vs Wade
01-22-2022, 07:46 AM
22

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Morris
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628537/) 30
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6
6
3
4
3
2
1
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Cacok
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629719/) 18
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3
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Collins
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628380/) 23
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2
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0
4
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22


Joshua
Primo
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1630563/) 11
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2
2
0
16



Cacok a G-League monster

Atl Spur
01-22-2022, 08:40 AM
His footwork , stamina and shot is all I care about in Austin. Good to see him running….

CGD
01-22-2022, 08:52 AM
Lonnie just bought a house here like a week ago. Seems to me you'd wait another 4 or so months until you see if the team is gonna match any offers unless your agent is hearing they are likely to make a competitive offer. Just doesn't make sense to buy this late in your tenure.

Maybe, but these days a 500k House in SA is easier to offload quickly with the influx of CA and Austin folks coming in. Incredibly, that’s a steal of a price for CA folks honestly. Had it been a 7 figure home id be a different story.

KingKev
01-22-2022, 08:56 AM
His footwork , stamina and shot is all I care about in Austin. Good to see him running….

All looked decent. He is in a good position if you ask me. He just has to show enough this year for them to guarantee next season and he is probably going to have 1/3 of the NBA season and lots of opportunity to do that. Shouldn’t be too hard to beat out Landale, Eubanks, Juancho and Thad for the main backup big role.

duncan2150
01-22-2022, 05:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jCnH2azFeE

KingKev
01-22-2022, 05:21 PM
Back with the big boy club tomorrow.

Dejounte
01-22-2022, 05:43 PM
Let’s see what we have and if he’s a keeper.

Tier 1 (Keepers)
Murray

Tier 2 ( Wait and see )
Primo - only because he has shown promise and it’s way too early to let go
Vassell - I try to compare his trajectory with Murray. Did Murray flash some greatness by year 3 (non injury year)? Next year is important for Vassell to gauge his ceiling. Hopefully, he works on the right things. Right now, he’s in the weird phase of trying different things on offense. He’s nowhere near physical enough to be an ISO scorer.

Tier 3 (Culture/ Vet building blocks)
White - but with a reducing role over time, i.e. he goes to the bench. White can become the embodiment of Spurs culture
Keldon - Only if they’re able to keep him at a decent salary
Landale - he’s serviceable. A good guy and is on a cheap salary. No downsides here if they can keep him.
McDermott - It’s great to have a tall shooter after not having one for years. Every team needs a guy like McD.

Tier 4 (For the right deal, trade them)
Poeltl - Early on the season, the team faltered while he was out. I’m thinking now that it was because Eubanks is that bad. Poeltl shines from time to time, but he makes me pull my hair out from time to time.
KBD - honestly a weird tier for KBD to be in since he probably has no trade value. But I think he’s good enough to think twice about letting him go

Tier 5 (Meh, trade them if you can)
Tre Jones
Lonnie Walker
Thad Young


Tier 6 (just let these dudes go. They hurt the team)
Eubanks

Tierless (not sure what to do with these guys)
Cacok
Wieskamp
Hernangomez

tbdog
01-22-2022, 07:07 PM
Tre Jones has a career as a backup pg and a ceiling of being a second guard off the bench on a contending team.

Fusternino
01-22-2022, 07:29 PM
Yeah Eubanks isn't a fit. Any chance we ship him out to Phoenix or Portland?

John B
01-22-2022, 08:29 PM
Until DJM consistently gets to the FT, I cannot call him a tier 1 player. I see him as a very good Robin, “almost” Pippen good 2way player. But he still needs a Batman.

Devin could very well be a 20+/7/3/2 guy. I don’t know if he could be a Batman though. I still don’t see that Alpha mentality in him, but maybe because he is still in his 2nd year and still getting in line. But he is a very smooth capable scorer, and he’s just going to get better the stronger he gets.

Primo, well he has the Tier 1 mentality. Let’s see if his skills catch up. He’s still very raw.

The rest are role players and could part with when opportunity to trade for a tier 1 arise.

tonight...you
01-22-2022, 08:42 PM
Until DJM consistently gets to the FT, I cannot call him a tier 1 player. I see him as a very good Robin, “almost” Pippen good 2way player. But he still needs a Batman.

Devin could very well be a 20+/7/3/2 guy. I don’t know if he could be a Batman though. I still don’t see that Alpha mentality in him, but maybe because he is still in his 2nd year and still getting in line. But he is a very smooth capable scorer, and he’s just going to get better the stronger he gets.

Primo, well he has the Tier 1 mentality. Let’s see if his skills catch up. He’s still very low.

The rest are role players and could part with when opportunity to trade for a tier 1 arise.
I hear ya, but I think Dejounte was talking about this team specifically.
He's the one guy you really want to keep unless something explosive presents itself.

Dejounte
01-22-2022, 08:43 PM
Until DJM consistently gets to the FT, I cannot call him a tier 1 player. I see him as a very good Robin, “almost” Pippen good 2way player. But he still needs a Batman.

Devin could very well be a 20+/7/3/2 guy. I don’t know if he could be a Batman though. I still don’t see that Alpha mentality in him, but maybe because he is still in his 2nd year and still getting in line. But he is a very smooth capable scorer, and he’s just going to get better the stronger he gets.

Primo, well he has the Tier 1 mentality. Let’s see if his skills catch up. He’s still very low.

The rest are role players and could part with when opportunity to trade for a tier 1 arise.

Ehh my tier system isn’t based on how good they are compared to the rest of the league. It’s in order of who should be kept and who should go.

tonight...you
01-22-2022, 09:26 PM
Ehh my tier system isn’t based on how good they are compared to the rest of the league. It’s in order of who should be kept and who should go.
Yeah. Wasn't trying to put words in your mouth, but at least my interpretation was not far from the mark.

Ditty
01-23-2022, 12:27 AM
Hopefully this is the end of seeing Ewwbanks play any minutes outside of garbage time.

Fusternino
01-23-2022, 01:08 AM
Keeping Eubanks over Luka or Aminu.

LOL.

BackHome
01-23-2022, 01:47 AM
Pretty much agree with ya Dejounte - One player I keep waiting and hoping explodes is Vassell he just has so much talent and basketball IQ I am hoping it comes soon. One thought it to put him in the bench group but make him number one scorer off the bench. Just get White to set him up and feed him the ball but he just has to much talent to waste

BG_Spurs_Fan
01-23-2022, 04:46 AM
Keeping Eubanks over Luka or Aminu.

LOL.

Why? Samanic and Aminu have played 0 NBA games this season even during the hardship 10 day deals.

KingKev
01-23-2022, 07:18 AM
Why? Samanic and Aminu have played 0 NBA games this season even during the hardship 10 day deals.

Aminu was absolutely toast. Surprised to see he even got a 10 day from Boston even though he didn’t play.

Dex
01-23-2022, 08:49 AM
Aminu was absolutely toast. Surprised to see he even got a 10 day from Boston even though he didn’t play.

And Luka just sucks. Not sure why some people are still clinging the hope that this guy belongs in the NBA. Can't even get minutes on a scrub Knicks team.

buttsR4rebounding
01-23-2022, 09:31 AM
And Luka just sucks. Not sure why some people are still clinging the hope that this guy belongs in the NBA. Can't even get minutes on a scrub Knicks team.

Only because he has a foot injury.

Dex
01-23-2022, 10:54 AM
Only because he has a foot injury.

Has he had a foot injury the last 3 years?

If Luka had shown SOME potential, he would've gotten minutes. We are currently seeing the likes of KBD and Tre Jones get plenty of minutes.

Luka either has serious attitude issues, or just isn't that good. Probably both.

widowmaker
01-23-2022, 11:21 AM
Yeah Eubanks isn't a fit. Any chance we ship him out to Phoenix or Portland?


I would send him to either orlando or okc.

KingKev
01-23-2022, 11:28 AM
I would send him to either orlando or okc.

Eubanks has no trade value beyond salary matching to facilitate a broader deal and in most cases would be cut by the receiving team.

John B
01-23-2022, 01:06 PM
Eubanks has no trade value beyond salary matching to facilitate a broader deal and in most cases would be cut by the receiving team.

I don’t know about his trade value. But teams would pick him up at free agency. He’s a high motor and works hard. Coaches love that in their team. Eubanks will always give them 110%.

Fusternino
01-23-2022, 01:16 PM
Forbes (the culprit in not keeping one of Luka/Amina) being shipped out for Hernangomez makes a lot sense right now. I mean, there's no one Hernangomez is worse than the two forwards we already cut, right?

John B
01-23-2022, 01:36 PM
Is Zollins in or out? SB Nation has Spurs showing full roster.

exstatic
01-23-2022, 01:38 PM
Forbes (the culprit in not keeping one of Luka/Amina) being shipped out for Hernangomez makes a lot sense right now. I mean, there's no one Hernangomez is worse than the two forwards we already cut, right?

Aminu is gone because he’s washed. Samanic is gone because SA converted KBD’s second year of a 2 way to an NBA 15 man roster contract. They’re both power forwards, and we kept the best one. Do you get it yet? KBD sent Samanic packing.

exstatic
01-23-2022, 01:39 PM
Is Zollins in or out? SB Nation has Spurs showing full roster.

Zollins and Primo will always show on SA’s roster, no matter where they’re playing. They’re signed to full time NBA contracts.

John B
01-23-2022, 01:45 PM
Zollins and Primo will always show on SA’s roster, no matter where they’re playing. They’re signed to full time NBA contracts.

:bobo

TD 21
01-23-2022, 04:48 PM
Let’s see what we have and if he’s a keeper.

Tier 1 (Keepers)
Murray

Tier 2 ( Wait and see )
Primo - only because he has shown promise and it’s way too early to let go
Vassell - I try to compare his trajectory with Murray. Did Murray flash some greatness by year 3 (non injury year)? Next year is important for Vassell to gauge his ceiling. Hopefully, he works on the right things. Right now, he’s in the weird phase of trying different things on offense. He’s nowhere near physical enough to be an ISO scorer.

Tier 3 (Culture/ Vet building blocks)
White - but with a reducing role over time, i.e. he goes to the bench. White can become the embodiment of Spurs culture
Keldon - Only if they’re able to keep him at a decent salary
Landale - he’s serviceable. A good guy and is on a cheap salary. No downsides here if they can keep him.
McDermott - It’s great to have a tall shooter after not having one for years. Every team needs a guy like McD.

Tier 4 (For the right deal, trade them)
Poeltl - Early on the season, the team faltered while he was out. I’m thinking now that it was because Eubanks is that bad. Poeltl shines from time to time, but he makes me pull my hair out from time to time.
KBD - honestly a weird tier for KBD to be in since he probably has no trade value. But I think he’s good enough to think twice about letting him go

Tier 5 (Meh, trade them if you can)
Tre Jones
Lonnie Walker
Thad Young


Tier 6 (just let these dudes go. They hurt the team)
Eubanks

Tierless (not sure what to do with these guys)
Cacok
Wieskamp
Hernangomez

I suspect they'd have Johnson in 2, Poeltl in 3, McDermott and Landale in 4, Bates-Diop and Wieskamp in 5 and Walker IV in 6.

Best case scenario for Collins is probably 4.

tim_duncan_fan
01-23-2022, 09:33 PM
Until DJM consistently gets to the FT, I cannot call him a tier 1 player. I see him as a very good Robin, “almost” Pippen good 2way player. But he still needs a Batman.

Devin could very well be a 20+/7/3/2 guy. I don’t know if he could be a Batman though. I still don’t see that Alpha mentality in him, but maybe because he is still in his 2nd year and still getting in line. But he is a very smooth capable scorer, and he’s just going to get better the stronger he gets.

Primo, well he has the Tier 1 mentality. Let’s see if his skills catch up. He’s still very raw.

The rest are role players and could part with when opportunity to trade for a tier 1 arise.

I agree with this.

Also, we are wasting time by not seeing if Vassell can handle more shots. Not sure if that's him being fearful or the team just not recognizing him.

exstatic
01-23-2022, 10:04 PM
I agree with this.

Also, we are wasting time by not seeing if Vassell can handle more shots. Not sure if that's him being fearful or the team just not recognizing him.

Devins and McDs minutes need to be swapped.

John B
01-23-2022, 10:18 PM
Devins and McDs minutes need to be swapped.

Truth

RC_Drunkford
01-24-2022, 02:23 AM
Vassell is averaging 25.2 minutes
McDermott 24.5

I don’t know what swapping their minutes would change tbh

wildbill2u
01-24-2022, 03:10 AM
Devins and McDs minutes need to be swapped.

Why not give Vassell a shot at starting SF. Then you have two good shooters on either side of Poertl with Murray out front teamed with White. I'm not a big Johnson fan at this point.

MultiTroll
01-24-2022, 07:07 AM
Vassell is averaging 25.2 minutes
McDermott 24.5

I don’t know what swapping their minutes would change tbh
Another of his genius posts.
paging Mr. Peletron. :lmao

MultiTroll
01-24-2022, 07:09 AM
Why not give Vassell a shot at starting SF. Then you have two good shooters on either side of Poertl with Murray out front teamed with White. I'm not a big Johnson fan at this point.
This.
However Johnson is being forced to play 4 when in reality he is a 3-4 and depending on the matchup should often be a 3.
So we have a good problem in that there is a logjam at the 3.
Bad in that no other team wants McD at his contract. Another PATFO Special.

KingKev
01-24-2022, 07:31 AM
This.
However Johnson is being forced to play 4 when in reality he is a 3-4 and depending on the matchup should often be a 3.
So we have a good problem in that there is a logjam at the 3.
Bad in that no other team wants McD at his contract. Another PATFO Special.

I’s like to see Vassell get most of his minutes at the 2, Keldon at the 3. Ideally both as backups. White and McD opportunistically traded.

KingKev
01-24-2022, 03:09 PM
Zach headed back to Austin. Must not be over himself lol as Austin doesn’t play at home till next Sunday and we are in Texas most of this week.

BackHome
01-24-2022, 04:33 PM
I read somewhere that he is going to play in 4 more G League games to get his basketball conditioning up and learn scheme.

On another note I know he could not do any running with a broken ankle but man he is skinny he looks like he has never picked up a weight in his life. He should have at least added 10 pounds of muscle on his upper and then work on them Chicken legs after his ankle healed up.

exstatic
01-24-2022, 04:48 PM
Zach headed back to Austin. Must not be over himself lol as Austin doesn’t play at home till next Sunday and we are in Texas most of this week.

SA has a quick out and back roadie to Houston. I’m sure Zach is just practicing and conditioning with them

KingKev
01-24-2022, 04:58 PM
SA has a quick out and back roadie to Houston. I’m sure Zach is just practicing and conditioning with them

I’m totally fine with it, he can take his time down there unless they are considering moving Jak and want confirmation he can start. I’m pretty sure they are going to guarantee next year so long as he remains healthy.

ace3g
01-27-2022, 09:58 PM
Spurs up 78-73 in the 3rd

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20220127/SXFAUS/


Austin Spurs


POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Joe
Wieskamp
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1630580/) 15
SF
20
4-7
1-4
0-0
-2
0
1
1
1
4
0
1
0
0
9


Devontae
Cacok
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629719/) 18
PF
24
8-12
0-1
2-2
-3
4
4
8
1
4
0
4
0
0
18


Zach
Collins
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628380/) 23
C
18
6-9
1-1
1-2
-2
4
10
14
3
2
0
0
2
0
15


Damyean
Dotson
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628422/) 2
SG
20
3-8
1-2
0-0
2
0
2
2
3
0
0
0
0
0
7


Joshua
Primo
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1630563/) 11
PG
16
3-6
0-1
0-0
-6
0
1
1
4
4
0
2
0
0
6

ace3g
01-27-2022, 10:00 PM
https://twitter.com/nbagleague/status/1486893660230856707

https://twitter.com/austin_spurs/status/1486894878072180739

Allan Rowe vs Wade
01-27-2022, 10:01 PM
give z the rest of the year to get 100% fit and healthy if he needs it

Degoat
01-27-2022, 10:08 PM
Haven’t watched the game but the box score is looking nice for Collins!

John B
01-27-2022, 10:20 PM
15 pts in 18 mins. Zollins been busy

ace3g
01-27-2022, 10:28 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1323855540959780867/Y7Tv_dgX_normal.jpg (https://twitter.com/nbagleague) NBA G League (https://twitter.com/nbagleague) (https://twitter.com/nbagleague) @nbagleague (https://twitter.com/nbagleague)




22 points and 10 rebounds. Devontae Cacok just notched his 15TH CONSECUTIVE double-double for the @austin_spurs (https://twitter.com/austin_spurs/) https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f64c.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKKJtyhXwAMA3VO?format=jpg&name=small (https://t.co/ke55KAb9jO)


9:25pm · 27 Jan 2022 (https://twitter.com/nbagleague/status/1486903228293914625) · Twitter Web App (https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/how-to-tweet#source-labels)

ace3g
01-27-2022, 10:31 PM
Spurs win 119-97

Austin Spurs


POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Joe
Wieskamp
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1630580/) 15
SF
27
5-10
1-5
0-0
1
2
2
4
1
5
0
1
0
1
11


Devontae
Cacok
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629719/) 18
PF
30
10-18
0-1
2-3
-1
4
6
10
2
6
0
4
0
0
22


Zach
Collins
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628380/) 23
C
27
6-13
1-3
1-2
7
5
13
18
3
3
0
1
2
0
15


Damyean
Dotson
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628422/) 2
SG
25
4-9
2-3
0-0
6
0
2
2
5
1
0
1
0
0
10


Joshua
Primo
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1630563/) 11
PG
24
7-10
3-4
1-2
-3
0
1
1
5
4
2
3
0
0
18

slick'81
01-27-2022, 10:35 PM
Cacok on fire

Russ
01-27-2022, 11:01 PM
Haven’t watched the game but the box score is looking nice for Collins!

He looked better than he's looked thus far. Pretty damn good in fact.

Running, passing, shooting, rebounding, blocking shots . . .

Spurs Homer
01-27-2022, 11:23 PM
18 boards

wildbill2u
01-28-2022, 02:06 AM
All (many?) of these 7 footers are susceptible to injuries because of the size of their bodies and the demands that NBA basketball puts upon them. But wouldn't it be nice to have this acquisition work out well for him and the team?

KingKev
01-28-2022, 07:14 AM
He looked better than he's looked thus far. Pretty damn good in fact.

Running, passing, shooting, rebounding, blocking shots . . .

DUNKING.

Atl Spur
01-28-2022, 08:30 AM
If healthy, he will be a steal! Super skilled and competitive……

Fusternino
01-28-2022, 09:49 AM
Why doesn't Cacok get more minutes over Wieskamp? Seems like another Blossomgame situation. Plays at our position of most need and gets no chances . . .

KingKev
01-28-2022, 10:00 AM
They might be the same height but Wieskamp is a wing and a decent 3pr shooter, Cacock is a very undersized center who can’t score beyond 5-10 ft.

Dverde
01-28-2022, 10:46 AM
Cacock is Ewwwbanks 2.0

exstatic
01-28-2022, 10:59 AM
Cacock is Ewwwbanks 2.0

Nope. He’s better. Fucking rebounding machine.

buttsR4rebounding
01-29-2022, 03:02 AM
They might be the same height but Wieskamp is a wing and a decent 3pr shooter, Cacock is a very undersized center who can’t score beyond 5-10 ft.

Although a couple of games ago he was 2 for 4 from 3 point range.

exstatic
01-29-2022, 07:48 AM
Although a couple of games ago he was 2 for 4 from 3 point range.

He’s shooting 29.6% on 1.4 atts/game.

Atl Spur
01-29-2022, 10:14 AM
He can be a Malik Rose type…….he has a place on this team.

buttsR4rebounding
01-29-2022, 10:15 AM
He’s shooting 29.6% on 1.4 atts/game.

I’m not suggesting he’s a 3 pt threat, just that if he’s taking 3 pointers that his range is likely better than 5-10 feet.

John B
01-29-2022, 11:34 AM
He’s shooting 29.6% on 1.4 atts/game.

I’m hoping he could improve that with Coach Chip. I like the kid.

I don’t know if Coach Chip could be credited for Keldon’s remarkable 3pt shooting strokes. 3rd best in the league and could really become a 3 and D, with occasional bullying inside.

KingKev
01-29-2022, 01:29 PM
Malibu’s most wanted coming for Jak’s job. Hide yo daughters.

https://twitter.com/DimeUPROXX/status/1487485700840718337?s=20&t=isHYVzfp9_9jJ8E2_hwSDg

RC_Drunkford
01-29-2022, 02:08 PM
He’s shooting 29.6% on 1.4 atts/game.


that's almost as good as Bates-Diop

Mnky
01-29-2022, 04:28 PM
He can be a Malik Rose type…….he has a place on this team.

Yea I don't get the hate on Devontae. He has been tearing it up at what he's asked to do. Hussle, rebound, and clean stuff up. He's great for that role. I think he's an NBA player and it's only a matter of time for him to solidify a role there.

He's a power forward in the build of many pfs today. Smaller and quick. He has enough athleticism to compete with bigger bodies and has the drive to beat them more oft than not.

Think he can be a quality role player.

KingKev
01-29-2022, 04:54 PM
Yea I don't get the hate on Devontae. He has been tearing it up at what he's asked to do. Hussle, rebound, and clean stuff up. He's great for that role. I think he's an NBA player and it's only a matter of time for him to solidify a role there.

He's a power forward in the build of many pfs today. Smaller and quick. He has enough athleticism to compete with bigger bodies and has the drive to beat them more oft than not.
Think he can be a quality role player.

He can take Eubanks spot… who fking cares. Am I the only Spurs fan tired 1/3rd of our roster are fringe G-Leaguers. KBD, Eubanks, Landale, Cacock, Jauncho who gives a fk. Why do we have 5,15th men on the squad? I heard Austin Daye got 12 rebounds at an LA Fitness in Wisconsin yesterday. Jeff Ayres and Mengke Bateer have added 3 pt shots in the Mongolian league.

Mnky
01-30-2022, 03:02 AM
He can take Eubanks spot… who fking cares. Am I the only Spurs fan tired 1/3rd of our roster are fringe G-Leaguers. KBD, Eubanks, Landale, Cacock, Jauncho who gives a fk. Why do we have 5,15th men on the squad? I heard Austin Daye got 12 rebounds at an LA Fitness in Wisconsin yesterday. Jeff Ayres and Mengke Bateer have added 3 pt shots in the Mongolian league.

You have to have role players. It's never been more important than recently with all of the quarantines this season. Eubanks played about 15 minutes the other night and the spurs were -22 in those 15 minutes. Like it or not, role players make a difference for better or worse. You can't play big men 48 minutes a game in this run and gun age. They get winded faster than ever. Those rotational bigs have legit roles to carve out these days.

ace3g
01-30-2022, 04:41 PM
Spurs play the Warriors at 5pm CST

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20220130/SCWAUS/

John B
01-30-2022, 05:25 PM
Spurs play the Warriors at 5pm CST

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20220130/SCWAUS/

Thanks for the feed.

John B
01-30-2022, 08:02 PM
Quinndary torching his former G-League team :rollin

ace3g
01-30-2022, 08:28 PM
The Cacok double double streak ends at 15.

Austin Spurs


POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Jaylen
Morris
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628537/) 30
SF
32
8-15
1-6
2-2
1
1
4
5
2
2
2
3
0
2
21


Devontae
Cacok
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629719/) 18
PF
31
4-10
0-2
0-4
-10
0
14
14
1
2
1
6
0
2
8


Zach
Collins
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628380/) 23
C
29
7-10
2-5
0-0
-18
2
8
10
2
3
0
4
1
0
16


Damyean
Dotson
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628422/) 2
SG
34
4-10
3-7
0-0
-5
0
2
2
4
0
0
2
0
1
11


Jayvon
Graves
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1630713/) 10
PG
23
5-9
1-5
2-2
-7
0
0
0
6
1
2
1
1
1
14


Galen
Robinson Jr.
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629955/) 25

27
9-11
1-2
0-0
-11
1
2
3
2
3
1
4
1
0
19

Dejounte
01-30-2022, 08:31 PM
So... I was wrong about what Collins' role could be with the main team. He looks very much like a Center-only type player who could maybe play PF in (very) short stretches and depending on match-up.

The question now is... how are they going to let go of Eubanks? Or does this mean that Poeltl's job isn't secure? It may be a stretch to say all this for sure, but Collins looks damn good out there (against G-League talent, I know).

exstatic
01-30-2022, 09:03 PM
So... I was wrong about what Collins' role could be with the main team. He looks very much like a Center-only type player who could maybe play PF in (very) short stretches and depending on match-up.

The question now is... how are they going to let go of Eubanks? Or does this mean that Poeltl's job isn't secure? It may be a stretch to say all this for sure, but Collins looks damn good out there (against G-League talent, I know).

I think this is Eubanks last season here. He’s terrible on defense, and undersized for a C. He gets after it, but that’s not enough, most games.

Mr. Body
01-30-2022, 10:17 PM
Collins played PF some at Portland.

Dejounte
01-30-2022, 10:22 PM
Collins played PF some at Portland.

He sure did. But the way he's being used on the G-League team and the fact that he's not actively trying to prove he can guard perimeter players makes me believe that's not what the Spurs have in mind... And if Collins had that in mind, then he would be trying more on defense, too. Yet, most of his time on the court (on defense) is him staying in the paint.

John B
01-30-2022, 10:27 PM
I watched part of the game tonight and he shows fluid motions, pretty agile. I’m sure they’re taking precautions to take it easy on him and play him center more for now

Atl Spur
01-31-2022, 12:15 AM
Easing him back slowly; he’s worth the wait. We will see him more after the trade deadline I suspect..

ace3g
02-02-2022, 11:56 PM
Wish Collins was available for games like this.
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/788588298231025664/vvtTTQtE_normal.jpg
Ira Winderman @IraHeatBeat
(https://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat) 5h (https://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat/status/1489020092088205313)
Spurs' injury report for Thursday vs. Heat: Keita Bates-Diop, Out, conditioning Zach Collins, Out, conditioning Jock Landale, Out, concussion protocol Doug McDermott, Questionable, ankle sprain Dejounte Murray, Questionable, wrist sprain Jakob Poeltl, Out, Concussion Protocol

Degoat
02-03-2022, 12:03 AM
So Eubanks is the only healthy big tomorrow? Lol

Robz4000
02-03-2022, 12:31 AM
So Eubanks is the only healthy big tomorrow? Lol


Gonna get an extended look at Cacok tomorrow at least.

tbdog
02-03-2022, 05:21 AM
Wish Collins was available for games like this.
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/788588298231025664/vvtTTQtE_normal.jpg
Ira Winderman @IraHeatBeat
(https://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat) 5h (https://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat/status/1489020092088205313)
Spurs' injury report for Thursday vs. Heat: Keita Bates-Diop, Out, conditioning Zach Collins, Out, conditioning Jock Landale, Out, concussion protocol Doug McDermott, Questionable, ankle sprain Dejounte Murray, Questionable, wrist sprain Jakob Poeltl, Out, Concussion Protocol

So can we prospone the game like the Heat did?

ace3g
02-03-2022, 08:05 PM
https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1489380771806728193

exstatic
02-03-2022, 08:33 PM
Tune in tomorrow night to see him play against Houston!

wildbill2u
02-04-2022, 04:19 AM
What was the assessment of his talent level back when he came into the league and during his brief career. I looked up his stats and they were underwhelming. Does anyone think he has the ability to become a starter or important role player. ???

tbdog
02-04-2022, 05:30 AM
What was the assessment of his talent level back when he came into the league and during his brief career. I looked up his stats and they were underwhelming. Does anyone think he has the ability to become a starter or important role player. ???

If you looked at Poeltl second year as a 22 year old, you would be underwhelmed also. Collins was further ahead than Poeltl but had a 2 year set back. Staying healthy, Spurs are betting he'll be an important player year 3 of his contract.

CGD
02-04-2022, 07:34 AM
I really liked this signing from the start. If he can stay healthy, this will be a steal of signing.

John B
02-04-2022, 09:10 AM
Zollins may debut against Rockets tonight

https://sportsnaut.com/spurs-zach-collins-could-debut-in-matchup-with-rockets/ (https://sportsnaut.com/spurs-zach-collins-could-debut-in-matchup-with-rockets/)

Ocotillo
02-04-2022, 09:32 AM
I thought I heard Dan Weiss or Sean say last night he would be making his debut. Maybe they said maybe. Last night was really the first game I had settled in to watch and could see the wheels coming off in the third and turned it off.

JeffDuncan
02-04-2022, 12:17 PM
What was the assessment of his talent level back when he came into the league and during his brief career. I looked up his stats and they were underwhelming. Does anyone think he has the ability to become a starter or important role player. ???


Zollins was projected to be a starter. Drafted #10. The draft evaluations were complimentary.

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/zach-collins/

The guy there compared him to Brad Daugherty, which might not sound like much, to some people, as memories fade. But Daugherty was a 5 times All Star, back in the day, so that’s a favorable comparison.

Basically, Zollins was never expected to be a superstar, but an excellent prospect, with some all-star potential. That’s how he was seen, at the time he was drafted.

How it stands now, it all depends on how strongly he can come back from the injury.

Chomag
02-04-2022, 12:47 PM
I would compare him more to Greg Oden at this point. We shall see how his body holds up.

John B
02-04-2022, 01:11 PM
I like Jalen Rose’s comparison to Laimbeer, getting physical, getting rebound, spreading the floor. People may not like Laimbeer’s dirty plays, but you would like him in your team. I would go to battle with Laimbeer anytime.


https://youtu.be/e7IVESrn2T4

Russ
02-04-2022, 01:57 PM
Sorry Commanders, the tank may be about to bog down . . .

The Truth #6
02-04-2022, 02:10 PM
Let’s see what he’s got. Even if the skills are dulled, I hope his attitude is still there.

ace3g
02-04-2022, 07:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAI4xMwy17o&t=98s

Dejounte
02-04-2022, 07:54 PM
The Spurs are really putting a lot of effort media-wise on Collins’ return like he’s Tim Duncan or something

PhantomDashCam
02-04-2022, 08:07 PM
I give Zach and the Spurs a lot of credit here. I honestly thought he would sit the entire year irrespective of previous reports. Happy to be proven wrong and hoping for good health, solid minutes going forward at the C spot. Anything else would be gravy.

ace3g
02-04-2022, 08:18 PM
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Zach Collins is available tonight Here’s a throwback of him and Jock during their college days

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02-04-2022, 10:51 PM
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Zach Collins becomes the first player to score double-figures in his first NBA game in 500+ days since… Klay Thompson, on Jan. 9, 2022.
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