Retire Patty's Number?

[Ocotillo]

I saw a discussion on Twitter about whether to retire Patty Mills number. Let me say right up front, I am opposed. That being said, I am very reluctant to retire any numbers. I like what the Cowboys do with a ring of honor.

Looking up in the rafters there are already 10 numbers that have been retired. That is approaching 10% of all available 1 and 2 digit numbers.

00 - Johnny Moore: This was clearly an emotional gesture due to Moore developing desert fever and ending his career. Should not have been retired.

6 - Avery Johnson: Important part of '99 first championship but no, this number should not have been retired.

9 - Tony Parker: no argument from me on this one

12 - Bruce Bowen: This is a close call for me, leaning toward not retiring it but he was integral part of the team when he played.

13 - James Silas: I can't really offer an opinion on this guy as his time was over before I became a fan so maybe some old timers or others can add something.

20 - Manu Ginobili: no question

21 - Tim Duncan: nuff said

32 - Sean Elliot: Like Moore was this because of the kidney transplant. Man he was good on defense though it must be said.

44 - George Gervin: solid entry

50 - David Robinson: Greatest Spur until TD

Patty Mills does not belong with this group and neither does LaMarcus before anyone chimes in with him. I would put Alvin Robertson ahead of him and some other numbers retired but the legal problems keep that from happening.

[KingKev]

Elliott absolutely deserved it for the Memorial Day Miracle alone.


Love Patty but it’s a no for me dawg. LMA absolutely not either. Don’t love AJ but good with Bowen.

[lefty]

Better than Porker, so yes

[Leetonidas]

We aren't the Lakers. If Avery fucking Johnson is up there Patty Mills absolutely deserves it

[itzsoweezee]

I’m a Patty fan but, hell no

[JeffDuncan]

I saw a discussion on Twitter …


That’s nice.

[Das Texan]

00 was definitely retired due to the health isssues that Johnny had, if not for those no telling how great he would have been, not like anyone is beating down the bush for #00 anyway.


13 was one of the first great Spurs. Only here for a short period, but definitely warranted due to the early day years of this franchise.

12 was yes emotional and LMA should have never been allowed to wear it, that was fucking stupid honestly. But without 12 a couple of those titles might not be on display at the ATT Center.

6 I dont care about, it shouldnt have been retired, but so many loved that little fucker it is what it is. It was going to happen the moment there was such an outrage over trying to give Manu that number originally.

32 ya didnt have the longetivity, but intrigal Spur. no qualms

44 being a solid entry :lol

[Seventyniner]

Nah. I would sooner take #6 and #12 out of the rafters than add #8. That's not going to happen, of course. It was be a big slap in the face to AJ, Bruce, and the loyal fan base from the 90s and 00s.

But since #6 and #12 are up there, I wouldn't be surprised at all if #8 goes up there too.

[GAustex]

Captin Late was a baller

[KingKev]

Anyone arguing no for Bruce Bowen have short memories as to how much he contributed to 3 titles and a whole lot of winning.

[Davidicus2]

My vote would be no. But yes to being an absolute legend and 1000% appreciative.

[Proxy]

first reaction is no way... but then again, who gives a fuck who's numbers are retired? Is there some kind of insecurity to it for fans?

Because if it's rings/stats, then you retire Kawhi's number absolutely. If it's unique to each franchise, and SAs "culture" is a bigger deal, then sure to Patty, and no to Kawhi. Or nah to both, whatever.

Just get that Duncan statue up soon

[KingKev]

Hang Kawhi’s if only to then subsequently burn it.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

when does bryn's number go up there? last member of the spurs to have a rang

[KingKev]

when does bryn's number go up there? last member of the spurs to have a rang

Cacock has one.

[tbdog]

Q&A: How Patty Mills made 'very difficult' decision to leave San Antonio

What was your mindset last summer when you were headed into free agency knowing you could be leaving San Antonio?

I like to say that it was extraordinary circumstances knowing that free agency was going to fall at the same time as the Olympic games. Although you knew that going out, there was really no perfect way that you could prepare for something like that. I did what I thought I had to do from doing my own research and trying to have as much information as I could because I knew that going into these training camps my head was gonna be down and I guess in the trenches as we were trying to achieve our first Olympic medal. So, knowing that free agency was gonna hit right in the middle of it, it was definitely extraordinary circumstances. I look back at it and I guess in a perfect world I would’ve had all the conversations necessary that I would have liked to have before making my decision. But in reality, it just wasn’t [possible]. The decision was made after the quarterfinal game against Argentina going into the semifinal against the US. So, I think extraordinary circumstances definitely sum up my free agency.

Was it difficult to leave?

Oh yeah. I think that’s what made it even more heightened emotions I guess over the extraordinary circumstances because I made a career-changing decision that was very difficult and very hard. I think why it was hard was because I was leaving a place, and more importantly, people, that have helped me grow up in a way. There were many emotions that made it difficult to leave, but [also] knowing at the same time this was the right decision for myself, for my wife, and my family.

Coach Pop is the type of guy that always seems to say exactly what you need to hear to make you feel better about making a tough decision like that. How did your conversations go with him during that time?

[Laughs]. Well, I talk about all the conversations [I needed to have]. In an ideal world, going through a free agency, I would have had all of the conversations that I would’ve [wanted] to have. But he was the first person that I obviously needed to tell before anyone else. In an ideal world, I would’ve loved to have conversations with Timmy and Manu — although I had conversations with him leading up — and other people within the organization, people that had an impact over my time there in San Antonio. But I remember coming back from the Argentinian quarterfinal game to the Olympic village in Tokyo. We’d just finished the quarterfinal. Big win.

It was pretty late at night, right?

It’s probably about 1 a.m. by the time I have dinner at the Olympic village, and here I am about to come meet the fork in the road on making this decision. So, it was very late at night. By the time I made my decision, it was past 3 a.m. I think it was almost 4 a.m. So, it was obviously too late to be able to make a phone call and say, ‘This is my decision. This is what I want to do.’ So, before getting out there, the U.S. time zone was about to wake up. So, the news was gonna come out. But I just sent him a text and let him know about what I was feeling and how I thought it was strange timing and very hard timing. But I just wanted to let him know what I wanted to do, assuming that I wasn’t going to (be able to catch up with him in the next day or so in person).

To my surprise, he responded within, I think it was like three minutes or something that I got a text back. It was one of those things where you send the text, have mixed feelings about sending the text in the first place, then, you put your phone on the bedside table. All of the sudden, before you can fall asleep, the phone vibrates and you’ve got a text back from him. So, I think finally we got to catch up. We played them in the semifinal game, and we got to catch up after the game, and then again after the medal games. I guess it was him having the words to describe this is what I remember him saying, and how it feels. But [he told me] that he loves me and he understands.

How did that feel?

I think that was the biggest type of thing for me to be able to, I guess, close the chapter with confidence, knowing that I have him [in my corner]. Obviously, all the love is still there, and he understands. We became close over that time [in San Antonio]. Hearing that from him [made the decision feel better]. It’s one of the hardest things about the NBA. When you grow to become close to people, it makes it hard to leave.

[KingKev]

^ thanks for this!

[Dverde]

I would rather them retire LMA than Patty. LMA sold tickets and jerseys and carried the team a few years. His exit was a wet fart, but it was needed. I also would love the Spurs to keep him in the organization for player development. To have three generations of HOF big men in the rafter and in your organization says a lot to other players.

[John B]

Q&A: How Patty Mills made 'very difficult' decision to leave San Antonio

What was your mindset last summer when you were headed into free agency knowing you could be leaving San Antonio?

I like to say that it was extraordinary circumstances knowing that free agency was going to fall at the same time as the Olympic games. Although you knew that going out, there was really no perfect way that you could prepare for something like that. I did what I thought I had to do from doing my own research and trying to have as much information as I could because I knew that going into these training camps my head was gonna be down and I guess in the trenches as we were trying to achieve our first Olympic medal. So, knowing that free agency was gonna hit right in the middle of it, it was definitely extraordinary circumstances. I look back at it and I guess in a perfect world I would’ve had all the conversations necessary that I would have liked to have before making my decision. But in reality, it just wasn’t [possible]. The decision was made after the quarterfinal game against Argentina going into the semifinal against the US. So, I think extraordinary circumstances definitely sum up my free agency.

Was it difficult to leave?

Oh yeah. I think that’s what made it even more heightened emotions I guess over the extraordinary circumstances because I made a career-changing decision that was very difficult and very hard. I think why it was hard was because I was leaving a place, and more importantly, people, that have helped me grow up in a way. There were many emotions that made it difficult to leave, but [also] knowing at the same time this was the right decision for myself, for my wife, and my family.

Coach Pop is the type of guy that always seems to say exactly what you need to hear to make you feel better about making a tough decision like that. How did your conversations go with him during that time?

[Laughs]. Well, I talk about all the conversations [I needed to have]. In an ideal world, going through a free agency, I would have had all of the conversations that I would’ve [wanted] to have. But he was the first person that I obviously needed to tell before anyone else. In an ideal world, I would’ve loved to have conversations with Timmy and Manu — although I had conversations with him leading up — and other people within the organization, people that had an impact over my time there in San Antonio. But I remember coming back from the Argentinian quarterfinal game to the Olympic village in Tokyo. We’d just finished the quarterfinal. Big win.

It was pretty late at night, right?

It’s probably about 1 a.m. by the time I have dinner at the Olympic village, and here I am about to come meet the fork in the road on making this decision. So, it was very late at night. By the time I made my decision, it was past 3 a.m. I think it was almost 4 a.m. So, it was obviously too late to be able to make a phone call and say, ‘This is my decision. This is what I want to do.’ So, before getting out there, the U.S. time zone was about to wake up. So, the news was gonna come out. But I just sent him a text and let him know about what I was feeling and how I thought it was strange timing and very hard timing. But I just wanted to let him know what I wanted to do, assuming that I wasn’t going to (be able to catch up with him in the next day or so in person).

To my surprise, he responded within, I think it was like three minutes or something that I got a text back. It was one of those things where you send the text, have mixed feelings about sending the text in the first place, then, you put your phone on the bedside table. All of the sudden, before you can fall asleep, the phone vibrates and you’ve got a text back from him. So, I think finally we got to catch up. We played them in the semifinal game, and we got to catch up after the game, and then again after the medal games. I guess it was him having the words to describe this is what I remember him saying, and how it feels. But [he told me] that he loves me and he understands.

How did that feel?

I think that was the biggest type of thing for me to be able to, I guess, close the chapter with confidence, knowing that I have him [in my corner]. Obviously, all the love is still there, and he understands. We became close over that time [in San Antonio]. Hearing that from him [made the decision feel better]. It’s one of the hardest things about the NBA. When you grow to become close to people, it makes it hard to leave.

Classy, both Pop and Patty. :bobo

But nah, Spurs can’t retire based on long tenure alone. Who’s next, Red Mamba?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Absolutely hell no to both LMA and Patty

[Dex]

LaMarcus....hard no. Great player, but didn't accomplish much with us.

I would not be surprised if they retire Patty. Like I said, 10 years, 1 championship, 2nd all time in Spurs three-pointers....

I agree it's a low bar, but if they retired AJ, they have to retire Patty.

[talkspurs]

I would say no to both but I also think other numbers up there should not be retired.

[BatManu20]

I don’t think Patty is done as a Spur tbh. I think he signs with us towards the end of his career so he can retire a Spur. Just my gut feeling.

[KingKev]

I don’t think Patty is done as a Spur tbh. I think he signs with us towards the end of his career so he can retire a Spur. Just my gut feeling.

He is still playing some of the best basketball of his career, is in great shape and brings everything you’d want in a vet. He’s going to garner annual MLE offers from contenders for the next few years at least. We probably won’t sniff the playoffs over that time frame.

[SPURt]

Hang Kawhi’s if only to then subsequently burn it.
I’m 1000% in the same boat here. The more interesting question is should #2 go up in the rafters? As of right now, it’s a strong hell no. Having a number retired by the Spurs has a woefully low bar but that needs to change. If it’s a no for Kawhi then it’s a no for Patty too.

[BatManu20]

He is still playing some of the best basketball of his career, is in great shape and brings everything you’d want in a vet. He’s going to garner annual MLE offers from contenders for the next few years at least. We probably won’t sniff the playoffs over that time frame.

You might be right. But the NBA landscape changes quickly these days. Teams like the lakers who were dominant 2 years ago suddenly suck. And teams like Chicago that were at the bottom of the standings 2 years ago are suddenly battling for the top seed in the East. There’s just no way of knowing what the NBA will look like in 5 years, let alone 2 or 3. Time will tell.

Would love to see Patty back in SA at some point though. Only seems fitting.

[BatManu20]

Kawhi will never have his jersey retired here :lol

[offset formation]

LMA is like top ten in multiple categories of franchise rankings and was only here for parts of 6 seasons. That should be recognized, combined with his off court work which was substantial.

You absolutely put him in the rafters, imo. Like someone else said, we don't have 17 championships and obviously haven't been as selective with our rafter retirements...Good news is it also doesn't actually retire a different number.

Also he's a native Texan and probable HOF if he rings. Being a 20K point scorer makes him one of only 48 players in NBA history. And he likely finishes above both Gervin and Robinson on the scoring list, inside the top 40 all-time He ought to be an absolute lock for a jersey retirement based on who is already up there, tbh.

And shame on those saying no given what he meant to theSpurs after neph did everything possible to fuck this franchise.

[FutureMan]

LMA is like top ten in multiple categories of franchise rankings and was only here for parts of 6 seasons. That should be recognized, combined with his off court work which was substantial.

You absolutely put him in the rafters, imo. Like someone else said, we don't have 17 championships and obviously haven't been as selective with our rafter retirements...Good news is it also doesn't actually retire a different number.

Also he's a native Texan and probable HOF if he rings. Being a 20K point scorer makes him one of only 48 players in NBA history. And he likely finishes above both Gervin and Robinson on the scoring list, inside the top 40 all-time He ought to be an absolute lock for a jersey retirement based on who is already up there, tbh.

And shame on those saying no given what he meant to theSpurs after neph did everything possible to fuck this franchise.


Agreed that Aldridge’s jersey should be retired. Most people seem to think Patty is a no. The real question appears to be Leonard.

[KingKev]

Agreed that Aldridge’s jersey should be retired. Most people seem to think Patty is a no. The real question appears to be Leonard.

Leonard is an absolute no. There is no way this would be considered by PATFO. I’m confident in that.

[MannyIsGod]

I would say no. I know AJ is up there, but AJ led us to our first title. There's a big difference I think. Patty was a special player and I loved him as a Spur (even when half you fucks hated him) but nah. That being said, I won't be angry if they do.

[FutureMan]

Leonard is an absolute no. There is no way this would be considered by PATFO. I’m confident in that.

If the Clippers never materialize then his only shot at getting his jersey retired is from a single year in Toronto. I feel like the Raptors would do it but they might be sour about him leaving as well or think he should’ve stayed longer to earn that honor.

[slick'81]

God no

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs gonna absolutely retire Patty Mill‘s number. And they can retire Drew Eubanks too while they are at it

[TDMVPDPOY]

they got averys number up there who didnt do much compared to patty

patty wouldve had 2 rings if it werent for some cuck jealousy on the team getting outplayed by scrubs for fmvp throwing the series

[Ditty]

Should Patty have his number retired? No.

Will the Spurs retire his jersey? Probably.

[KingKev]

Q&A: How Patty Mills made 'very difficult' decision to leave San Antonio

What was your mindset last summer when you were headed into free agency knowing you could be leaving San Antonio?

I like to say that it was extraordinary circumstances knowing that free agency was going to fall at the same time as the Olympic games. Although you knew that going out, there was really no perfect way that you could prepare for something like that. I did what I thought I had to do from doing my own research and trying to have as much information as I could because I knew that going into these training camps my head was gonna be down and I guess in the trenches as we were trying to achieve our first Olympic medal. So, knowing that free agency was gonna hit right in the middle of it, it was definitely extraordinary circumstances. I look back at it and I guess in a perfect world I would’ve had all the conversations necessary that I would have liked to have before making my decision. But in reality, it just wasn’t [possible]. The decision was made after the quarterfinal game against Argentina going into the semifinal against the US. So, I think extraordinary circumstances definitely sum up my free agency.

Was it difficult to leave?

Oh yeah. I think that’s what made it even more heightened emotions I guess over the extraordinary circumstances because I made a career-changing decision that was very difficult and very hard. I think why it was hard was because I was leaving a place, and more importantly, people, that have helped me grow up in a way. There were many emotions that made it difficult to leave, but [also] knowing at the same time this was the right decision for myself, for my wife, and my family.

Coach Pop is the type of guy that always seems to say exactly what you need to hear to make you feel better about making a tough decision like that. How did your conversations go with him during that time?

[Laughs]. Well, I talk about all the conversations [I needed to have]. In an ideal world, going through a free agency, I would have had all of the conversations that I would’ve [wanted] to have. But he was the first person that I obviously needed to tell before anyone else. In an ideal world, I would’ve loved to have conversations with Timmy and Manu — although I had conversations with him leading up — and other people within the organization, people that had an impact over my time there in San Antonio. But I remember coming back from the Argentinian quarterfinal game to the Olympic village in Tokyo. We’d just finished the quarterfinal. Big win.

It was pretty late at night, right?

It’s probably about 1 a.m. by the time I have dinner at the Olympic village, and here I am about to come meet the fork in the road on making this decision. So, it was very late at night. By the time I made my decision, it was past 3 a.m. I think it was almost 4 a.m. So, it was obviously too late to be able to make a phone call and say, ‘This is my decision. This is what I want to do.’ So, before getting out there, the U.S. time zone was about to wake up. So, the news was gonna come out. But I just sent him a text and let him know about what I was feeling and how I thought it was strange timing and very hard timing. But I just wanted to let him know what I wanted to do, assuming that I wasn’t going to (be able to catch up with him in the next day or so in person).

To my surprise, he responded within, I think it was like three minutes or something that I got a text back. It was one of those things where you send the text, have mixed feelings about sending the text in the first place, then, you put your phone on the bedside table. All of the sudden, before you can fall asleep, the phone vibrates and you’ve got a text back from him. So, I think finally we got to catch up. We played them in the semifinal game, and we got to catch up after the game, and then again after the medal games. I guess it was him having the words to describe this is what I remember him saying, and how it feels. But [he told me] that he loves me and he understands.

How did that feel?

I think that was the biggest type of thing for me to be able to, I guess, close the chapter with confidence, knowing that I have him [in my corner]. Obviously, all the love is still there, and he understands. We became close over that time [in San Antonio]. Hearing that from him [made the decision feel better]. It’s one of the hardest things about the NBA. When you grow to become close to people, it makes it hard to leave.


After reading this it sounds like the Spurs had communicated in advance they wanted Patty back. I’m sure he could have gotten a pretty lucrative 1yr deal from us 1yr 18mm or maybe something like 2yr 30mm given our cap space. Also confirms certain lines of communication probably still go through Pop and not Brian Wright lol.

[CGD]

In other Aussie news, I had no idea this happened to Baynes. Scary.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/33153946/the-mysterious-fall-harrowing-story-nba-center

[exstatic]

LaMarcus? Hard pass. What are they going to do, sew his name onto Bowen’s jersey?

Nope.

[Fireball]

No to Patty, no to LMA .. no no no

[MultiTroll]

How about a section in the rafters dedicated to Pops Pets?

https://i1.wp.com/differentville.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Meeting-wombats-at-Sleepy-Burrows-sanctuary.jpg?w=734

[John B]

They could name one of the snack bars after Patty, but that’s it.

[BatManu20]

Barring injury, it’s looking like Patty’s gonna get himself another ring this year.

BKN is the team to beat imo. They look damn good and they don’t even have Simmons yet. Once he replaces Bruce Brown in the lineup, it’s a wrap. Nobody can match their offensive firepower when they’re healthy.

[BatManu20]

LMA too. Wouldn’t mind seeing him get a ring tbh.

[Dex]

Barring injury, it’s looking like Patty’s gonna get himself another ring this year.

BKN is the team to beat imo. They look damn good and they don’t even have Simmons yet.

They are still 8th in the East...they are far from being the favorites.

I know they are dealing with injuries and what not, but it would be a "lightning in a bottle" run for them assuming KD stays healthy, Ben Simmons actually remembers how to play basketball, and even then...Kyrie is still limited to road games until the mandate changes.

When they are all together and playing well...yes, they are the team to beat. But that seems to be the story for Brooklyn the past few years....lots of talent on paper, but the games are played for a reason.

[BatManu20]

They are still 8th in the East...they are far from being the favorites.

I know they are dealing with injuries and what not, but it would be a "lightning in a bottle" run for them assuming KD stays healthy, Ben Simmons actually remembers how to play basketball, and even then...Kyrie is still limited to road games until the mandate changes.

When they are all together and playing well...yes, they are the team to beat. But that seems to be the story for Brooklyn the past few years....lots of talent on paper, but the games are played for a reason.

Yea this is under the assumption that the mandate will be lifted as announced of course. But Ben Simmons is just a bonus at this point, not a necessity. Anything he gives them is gravy. Getting rid of a career loser in Harden has made them better already imo. Addition by subtraction.

They added underrated but pivotal role players like Seth Curry and Goran Dragic, and to a lesser extent Andre Drummond. Offensively no one is on their level right now with KD and Kyrie playing the way they are and surrounded by so many knockdown shooters.

Remember, KD was a big toe away from dragging this Nets team to the Finals virtually by himself last season. And that was with their second leading scorer in Joe Harris completely disappearing in the ECF. KD is that good by himself when he’s healthy. This is also me taking into account that both the Warriors and Suns have looked rather unimpressive as of late. The Celtics are probably the best defensive team in the NBA, but offensively they can’t compete with this nets team if they are healthy imo.

[BatManu20]

Milwaukee are the reigning champs so by definition they’re the team to beat. It’s theirs to lose. But I’m taking a healthy BKN team over them.

[TD 21]

Yea this is under the assumption that the mandate will be lifted as announced of course. But Ben Simmons is just a bonus at this point, not a necessity. Anything he gives them is gravy. Getting rid of a career loser in Harden has made them better already imo. Addition by subtraction.

They added underrated but pivotal role players like Seth Curry and Goran Dragic, and to a lesser extent Andre Drummond. Offensively no one is on their level right now with KD and Kyrie playing the way they are and surrounded by so many knockdown shooters.

Remember, KD was a big toe away from dragging this Nets team to the Finals virtually by himself last season. And that was with their second leading scorer in Joe Harris completely disappearing in the ECF. KD is that good by himself when he’s healthy. This is also me taking into account that both the Warriors and Suns have looked rather unimpressive as of late. The Celtics are probably the best defensive team in the NBA, but offensively they can’t compete with this nets team if they are healthy imo.

Wrong. The actualized version of the Nets is obviously dangerous because of the superstar/star power and firepower in general, but they're too small guard/middling big heavy, light on wings and lacking two-way players in general.

Simmons is absolutely a necessity otherwise they'd need to rely heavily on Brown/Johnson, neither of whom can shoot and the former who is undersized, to guard top opposition wings.

[TDomination]

If the Clippers never materialize then his only shot at getting his jersey retired is from a single year in Toronto. I feel like the Raptors would do it but they might be sour about him leaving as well or think he should’ve stayed longer to earn that honor.

Who does Toronto fan deem more worthy to get their Jersey retired? Demar or Kawhi?

[Robz4000]

Barring injury, it’s looking like Patty’s gonna get himself another ring this year.

BKN is the team to beat imo. They look damn good and they don’t even have Simmons yet. Once he replaces Bruce Brown in the lineup, it’s a wrap. Nobody can match their offensive firepower when they’re healthy.


Nets definitely got better after trading away Bin Harden, but I still don't see them as the favorites tbh. IMO its:

1. Suns
2. Dubs (if Klay/Donkey aren't done)
3. Bucks
4. Nets
5. Heat

With the Grizz and Celtics having an outside shot.

[Ice009]

Nets definitely got better after trading away Bin Harden, but I still don't see them as the favorites tbh. IMO its:

1. Suns
2. Dubs (if Klay/Donkey aren't done)
3. Bucks
4. Nets
5. Heat

With the Grizz and Celtics having an outside shot.

What about Philadelphia? I think they might have a chance too if Harden is healthy. Harden won't be the number 1 option, he'd be 1B at best, and if he's physically OK in the playoffs, I think they'll have a shot.

[Robz4000]

What about Philadelphia? I think they might have a chance too if Harden is healthy. Harden won't be the number 1 option, he'd be 1B at best, and if he's physically OK in the playoffs, I think they'll have a shot.

:lol any team going far with Harden

[Ice009]

:lol any team going far with Harden

Normally I agree, but I am a dominant big man fan, and Joel is that. This will be the first time Harden (if healthy) isn't the man since before his Rockets days. He might actually do good without the pressure on him. I'd easily put them in the Celtics/Grizzlies tier. You don't think they have any chance at all, not even a slight one?

[Biggems]

FUCK NO

and to be honest, only 3 numbers should have been retired....44, 50, 21

every other player should have been in the Spurs Ring of Honor....of course the main 3, plus Manu, Tony, Mitchell, Silas, Kenon, Elliott, Avery, Moore, Bowen, Robertson, Gilmore, Mills, Coyote

[RC_Drunkford]

Barring injury, it’s looking like Patty’s gonna get himself another ring this year.

BKN is the team to beat imo. They look damn good and they don’t even have Simmons yet. Once he replaces Bruce Brown in the lineup, it’s a wrap. Nobody can match their offensive firepower when they’re healthy.

with how accurate you have been in the Spurs game threads, this basically means the Nets will be out of the playoffs before the ECF

[BatManu20]

As soon as leaves SA he wins this lol. Congrats to Patty though.

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[slick'81]

Mills has been ice cold lately anyways, as he hasn't hit double-digit points since March 21. What a great teammate though:lmao

[Dex]

Mills has been ice cold lately anyways, as he hasn't hit double-digit points since March 21. What a great teammate though:lmao

I love Patty, but yeah...we've seen that story before. Would start off the season red hot...then just kinda wanes to the point where he is a net negative because he gets abused on defense.

He's proven with Australia that he can score in bunches when he is a primary option but no NBA team is going to base their offense around Patty Mills.

That 2014 run was incredible though, dude went Super Saiyan 2 in the Finals.

[slick'81]

I love Patty, but yeah...we've seen that story before. Would start off the season red hot...then just kinda wanes to the point where he is a net negative because he gets abused on defense.

He's proven with Australia that he can score in bunches when he is a primary option but no NBA team is going to base their offense around Patty Mills.

That 2014 run was incredible though, dude went Super Saiyan 2 in the Finals.

great spur no doubt

[gambit1990]

i think he'll be a spur again.

[Ice009]

i think he'll be a spur again.

As a player?

As for the jersey thing, I really like Patty as a person, but I don't think they should retire someone's jersey based on how good of a person he is. I wouldn't mind seeing him back with the Spurs in some capacity.

[rascal]

NO

[rascal]

FUCK NO

and to be honest, only 3 numbers should have been retired....44, 50, 21

every other player should have been in the Spurs Ring of Honor....of course the main 3, plus Manu, Tony, Mitchell, Silas, Kenon, Elliott, Avery, Moore, Bowen, Robertson, Gilmore, Mills, Coyote

Yes, the retired numbers lose meaning when you start including everyone.

[Biggems]

Yes, the retired numbers lose meaning when you start including everyone.

I change my stance. Now that Manu is in the HOF, we can include his number. When Tony goes in, we can include his number.

So once all of the HOF stuff is over, we should only have 5 retired jerseys......44, 50, 21, 20, and 9

put everyone else is the Spurs Ring of Honor

Now the only other number I would retire besides those 5 if I were running the Spurs would be 2! and he would definitely be in the Ring of Honor. Afterall, the Coyote is one of the best sports mascots ever.

[jjspur]

I like patty, good teammate, good community guy, I even liked his HEB commercials, but I think his best days as a player are behind him. Maybe as a scout or assistant coach. Would be a good PR move by the spurs. :lobt2:

[ZeusWillJudge]

And this year's Miss Congeniality is....

[gambit1990]

As a player?
yeah.

simliar to forbes.