Girl Suspended From School For Refusing To Pray

[Nbadan]

Tue November 22, 2005
Reason for suspension debated
By Ron Jackson
The Oklahoman


HARDESTY - A 15-year-old girl was suspended from Hardesty High School for five days because she refused to recite a post-game prayer with her basketball team, her mother told The Oklahoman on Monday.

Hardesty Superintendent David Brewer said the claim is "not accurate." Brewer declined to comment further because of a pending federal lawsuit filed in May by the girl's family against the school district.

Regardless of why, Nicole Smalkowski will not be allowed to return to school until Dec. 1.

"They told my daughter that another girl told them she threatened to kill someone," said Nadia Smalkowski, Nicole's mother.

More:NewsOK (http://www.newsok.com/xml/rss/1684529)

From another article:


Nadia Smalkowski told the The Oklahoman her daughter, Nicole Smalkowski, was suspended because the girl refused to recite a prayer with her team following basketball games, the newspaper reported.
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“All I know is we had to go over and standby while they expelled one of the students,” Peoples said. “I don't really think they want to draw a lot of attention to it.”

Peoples said a violation of a school policy formed the basis of the incident.

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Nadia Smalkowski also told The Oklahoman her family “has been called names because we don't go to church,” the newspaper reported.

This is not the first time the Smalkowski's have clashed with local authorities.

Aggravated assault and battery charges are pending against Chester Smalkowski, Jr., the girl's father, who allegedly assaulted former Hardesty Principal Lloyd Buckley.

GDHerald (http://www.gdherald.com/articles/2005/11/23/news/news01.txt)

Prayer Happens.

[jochhejaam]

They told my daughter that another girl told them she threatened to kill someone,"
That's reason for expulsion, no one in their right mind would suspend someone for not praying.
Maybe the parents are activists and want to make a name for themselves, lots of strange people out there.

[Spam]

I pray things work out for her and her family.

[jochhejaam]

I pray things work out for her and her family.
The family has requested prayer from the basketball team regarding the matter.

[JohnnyMarzetti]

she's probably better off in home school than at a public school in oklahoma

Yeah, the real world is not the way. :rolleyes

[George W. Bush]

Girl Suspended From School For Refusing To Pray


now that there reminds me of the time ol billy clinton threatened
to fire that young intern if she didn't get on her knees. :baby

[George W. Bush]

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yeah? and who the fuck are you? albert einstein?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

That's reason for expulsion, no one in their right mind would suspend someone for not praying.
Maybe the parents are activists and want to make a name for themselves, lots of strange people out there.

'Cause, you know, third-rate hearsay is always truthful.

[jochhejaam]

'Cause, you know, third-rate hearsay is always truthful.
I'm not vouching for the truthfulness of the accusation JB, just stating that it's probably why she was suspended rather than being suspended for her claim of not reciting a prayer.

[Dre_7]

I think we need to wait till all the info comes out about this story.

[E20]

You can't expel someone for being accused of a rumor. LMFAO

[jochhejaam]

You can't expel someone for being accused of a rumor. LMFAO
Accused of a rumor? :wtf Care to clarify your post or is that as good as it gets?

With an accusation of that nature they not only can but are probably obligated to do so while investigating the truthfulness of the threat.

[E20]

If Person A says something to Person B about Person C that is not substaniated, then that is called a rumor.

[Trainwreck2100]

You can't expel someone for being accused of a rumor. LMFAO

Correct,b tu you can suspend them while you investigate the accusations.

[jochhejaam]

If Person A says something to Person B about Person C that is not substaniated, then that is called a rumor.

Rumor: talk or opinion widely disseminated with no discernible source

There is an accusation from one person about a specific threat from a "known" source. That constitutes more than a rumor.

And under the safe schools act they have every right to suspend someone suspected of making such a threat while investigating the validity of the alleged threat.

[Nbadan]

That's reason for expulsion, no one in their right mind would suspend someone for not praying.
Maybe the parents are activists and want to make a name for themselves, lots of strange people out there.

Well the dad did 'allegedly' assault the Principal, but maybe the family was dealing with previous unresolved incident or incidents were the kids were harassed at school for their non-beliefs, though, assaulting someone is never the right answer, there does seem to be some bad history with the family.

[gtownspur]

Yeah, the real world is not the way. :rolleyes

Your a moron if you think High school is the real world.:lmao
No wonder why your probably just a middle aged twat who acts like he's 16.

[Trainwreck2100]

Well the dad did 'allegedly' assault the Principal, but maybe the family was dealing with previous unresolved incident or incidents were the kids were harassed at school for their non-beliefs, though, assaulting someone is never the right answer, there does seem to be some bad history with the family.


Or maybe the dad's a bitch.

[gtownspur]

More than likely the dad was a self victimizing, secularist proselytizing, Pat Robertson rape victim.

[Trainwreck2100]

More than likely the dad was a self victimizing, secularist proselytizing, Pat Robertson rape victim.


Like I said, he was a bitch

[JohnnyMarzetti]

Your a moron if you think High school is the real world.:lmao
No wonder why your probably just a middle aged twat who acts like he's 16.

You are just a plain moron who probably hasn't thought for himself since you popped out of your momma's twat. STFU and stop whining like the spoiled brat you are.

[JoeChalupa]

This is ridiculous.

[Oh, Gee!!]

stupid oklahomans. oklahomites? oklahomians?

[bigzak25]

Your a moron if you think High school is the real world.:lmao
No wonder why your probably just a middle aged twat who acts like he's 16.


you'd be suprised how 'REAL' highschool is. or maybe you just forgot. :tu

[E20]

Rumor: talk or opinion widely disseminated with no discernible source

There is an accusation from one person about a specific threat from a "known" source. That constitutes more than a rumor.

And under the safe schools act they have every right to suspend someone suspected of making such a threat while investigating the validity of the alleged threat.

LMAO there is no source.

Unless if you count a 15 year old girl a valid source. If it were that way then a person could get kicked out of school 40 times year.

A school is fucked up if they do something like that.

[gtownspur]

you'd be suprised how 'REAL' highschool is. or maybe you just forgot. :tu

I remember how fake everyone was in highschool, nevertheless i had a blast.
But highschool being the real world? :lol
Get real, can you imagine? A marine arrives at basic training inwhich he is questioned if he's had any real world experiences, and all he manages to list was Westlake High School as a real world experience.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I remember how fake everyone was in highschool, nevertheless i had a blast.
But highschool being the real world? :lol
Get real, can you imagine? A marine arrives at basic training inwhich he is questioned if he's had any real world experiences, and all he manages to list was Westlake High School as a real world experience.


were you a marine?

[101A]

In high school stress was:

Grades, Girls, Parents.......a few other things so trivial they aren't worth mentioning

Adult world stress is:

Job, Boss, employees, debt, children, children's grades, keeping children alive, no sleep, fixing the house, fixing the car, debt, REAL commitments, politics.....

Those of us who are old enough to have experienced both are the only ones who can comment. I guaranty you, no adult on this board, or anywhere, would claim high-school had any semblance to "real life". None at all.

[SpursWoman]

I guaranty you, no adult on this board, or anywhere, would claim high-school had any semblance to "real life". None at all.


I'm still waiting for that 3 months off in the summer and the 2 week holiday over Christmas thing. And maybe I can take an "F" on my mortgage payment this month. :fro :lol

[101A]

Yeah, and it sucked, I was tardy to a meeting 3 times last month and I got D-Hall.

Oh, no I didn't, I got my ass fired, my car repossessed, by house forclosed on, my wife left me, took the kids, I still got to make the C. Support payments, couldn't pay my taxes and got thrown in jail!

Same thing.

[Oh, Gee!!]

In high school stress was:

Grades, Girls, Parents.......a few other things so trivial they aren't worth mentioning

Adult world stress is:

Job, Boss, employees, debt, children, children's grades, keeping children alive, no sleep, fixing the house, fixing the car, debt, REAL commitments, politics.....

Those of us who are old enough to have experienced both are the only ones who can comment. I guaranty you, no adult on this board, or anywhere, would claim high-school had any semblance to "real life". None at all.


High School was real life when I was there, then college was, then the job, then marriage, then having a baby, etc. I'm not going to say that somebody isn't experiencing real life because they aren't in the same place I'm in. That's pretty arrogant and myopic.

[gtownspur]

"Real life" and "real world" experiences are two different meanings.

While we're at that, lets digress a little. Let's say someone went to summer camp and was molested by their camp counselor or went through some other trauma, does that mean that summer camp is a real world experience?

[Guru of Nothing]

The Internet is the only thing that is real!

[Guru of Nothing]

stupid oklahomans. oklahomites? oklahomians?

Spooners is the term you are looking for, I think. I know it has something to do with fucking from behind. I've heard it involves animals.

Wait, my bad. I'm totally confusing O-states and O-faces.

[gtownspur]

^Good God! The forum certified Cleveland Steamer expert has arrived. :lol

[Guru of Nothing]

^Good God! The forum certified Cleveland Steamer expert has arrived. :lol

AS IF we were related.

[Mr. Defense]

In high school stress was:

Grades, Girls, Parents.......a few other things so trivial they aren't worth mentioning

Adult world stress is:

Job, Boss, employees, debt, children, children's grades, keeping children alive, no sleep, fixing the house, fixing the car, debt, REAL commitments, politics.....

Those of us who are old enough to have experienced both are the only ones who can comment. I guaranty you, no adult on this board, or anywhere, would claim high-school had any semblance to "real life". None at all.

job in highschool is getting good grades.
the boss is the teacher and the parents.
you are correct, a highschool student doesn't usually have employees.
debt? well. most highschool kids have to make do with 2 bux a day for lunch.

you are right, MOST highschool kids don't have children. but alot do. and they KNOW more about a hard life than even you. and they have to worry about raising a child while worrying about their own grades and keeping their own children alive. uh oh....guess it can be harder than you though huh? :lol

what you 'adults' fail to realize is that age is just a number. we are all human beings and we all have stress. just because you were able to depend on mommy and daddy and now you don't doesn't mean that there aren't kids out there without the same benefits that you had.

why don't you guys go read this short book and come back here with a story about how tough your life is/was.


http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1558743669.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1558743669/102-9080069-9003308?v=glance&n=283155)

instead of saying how you are the only one that has perspective, why don't you take my challenge and learn what true perspective is all about and then count your blessings and THANK GOD for them. :tu

i figure, since you think highschool can't have any semblance of real life, you must think elementary school must have been a joke. now go read and learn. :tu

[101A]

job in highschool is getting good grades.
the boss is the teacher and the parents.
you are correct, a highschool student doesn't usually have employees.
debt? well. most highschool kids have to make do with 2 bux a day for lunch.

you are right, MOST highschool kids don't have children. but alot do. and they KNOW more about a hard life than even you. and they have to worry about raising a child while worrying about their own grades and keeping their own children alive. uh oh....guess it can be harder than you though huh? :lol

what you 'adults' fail to realize is that age is just a number. we are all human beings and we all have stress. just because you were able to depend on mommy and daddy and now you don't doesn't mean that there aren't kids out there without the same benefits that you had.

why don't you guys go read this short book and come back here with a story about how tough your life is/was.


http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1558743669.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1558743669/102-9080069-9003308?v=glance&n=283155)

instead of saying how you are the only one that has perspective, why don't you take my challenge and learn what true perspective is all about and then count your blessings and THANK GOD for them. :tu

i figure, since you think highschool can't have any semblance of real life, you must think elementary school must have been a joke. now go read and learn. :tu


AHHHH the arrogance of youth...remember, sport, we (adults) were all your age once, and we remember being your age - you on the other hand have not yet been our age. If I could have died at age 18, before entering college, it would have been great. I would have died omniscient. I, unfortunately, entered college & learned just how truly ignorant I was. A debate on that would be pointless.

I reapeat: highschool has no semblance to real (adult) life.

I didn't say I was the only one that had perspective. Any adult would have the perspective relevent to the discussion which was taking place. Any child could not, regardess of how unfortunate or difficult their particular life experiences might have been.

Don't judge my faith.