DC statehood scenario

[Millennial_Messiah]

Would you be ok with:

DC statehood in a scenario where we maintain having 50 States and 100 US Senators and 435 representatives?

So DC gets a House seat in addition to their 2 senators. 3 electoral votes. 1 house seat gets pulled from somewhere else, maybe a NY or CA.

Remove both Alaska and Hawaii as states, they shouldn't be states anyway as they aren't contiguous; they should be commonwealths/territories just like Guam or Puerto Rico.

Add Chicago as a state, pulling from Northeast Illinois and the farthest northwest two counties in Indiana (i.e. merge Chicagoland). The city of Chicago can become Chicago City and the capital of the new State of Chicago.

So Indiana loses an electoral vote, the newly formed Chicago state gets about 8 [blue] electoral votes (6 house and 2 senators), Illinois becomes a solid red state with 9 electoral votes (7 house and 2 senators).

Fair trade off or no? Alaska and Hawaii really don't belong as states, especially now that you can't get to either without a vax.

[Blake]

Your scenario blows

[Trainwreck2100]

No there's no rule that says 50 states is the max number

[koriwhat]

Nope!

[Reck]

Nope!

Junkies dont get an input, calf man.

[ChumpDumper]

No there's no rule that says 50 states is the max number

[Ef-man]

Junkies dont get an input, calf man.

:lol

[koriwhat]

Junkies dont get an input, calf man.

Who's the junkie exactly? You play make believe by continously pushing such asinine bs as "junkies don't get an input" but I don't play make believe so what drugs are you exactly on Tranny? We already know estrogen but what about street drugs? Inform me because I have no experience with hard drugs outside of psychedelics when I was a teen. Do tell Tranny!

[Blake]

I have no experience with hard drugs outside of psychedelics

Do tell

[CosmicCowboy]

No fucking way, but I give you credit for dreaming up totally ridiculous scenarios to "discuss".

[Millennial_Messiah]

No fucking way, but I give you credit for dreaming up totally ridiculous scenarios to "discuss".

It's just that... Illinois is not a blue state. It's a large red state with a big ass blue fuckin' city dragging down the whole state like a chunk of lead on a yacht, like a turd stain on one corner of a golden toilet bowl. I've hung around different parts of the state and it's bullshit that one small overcrowded brainwashed shitty urban area can destroy an entire state whose economic heartbeat and identity is food, agriculture, farming and small town life... one shitty metro in the far northeast corner of an enormous state can decide that an elitist megalomaniac dictator like (F)JB Pritzker can take over the entire state and impose communazi laws, regulations and draconian mandates on a midwestern rural republican farming state, raising taxes and the cost of living, gas, etc for EVERYONE in the entire state all because of one shithole city.

[Winehole23]

It's just that... Illinois is not a blue state. It's a large red state with a big ass blue fuckin' city dragging down the whole state like a chunk of lead on a yacht, like a turd stain on one corner of a golden toilet bowl. I've hung around different parts of the state and it's bullshit that one small overcrowded brainwashed shitty urban area can destroy an entire state whose economic heartbeat and identity is food, agriculture, farming and small town life... one shitty metro in the far northeast corner of an enormous state can decide that an elitist megalomaniac dictator like (F)JB Pritzker can take over the entire state and impose communazi laws, regulations and draconian mandates on a midwestern rural republican farming state, raising taxes and the cost of living, gas, etc for EVERYONE in the entire state all because of one shithole city.~83% of the US population lives in urban areas.

The cities are the fucking country.

[Millennial_Messiah]

~83% of the US population lives in urban areas.

The cities are the fucking country.
and 99.8% of violent crime...

but under "urban" you're including everything that is not rural. So you're including urban, ghetto, suburban, and exurban not rural. All 5 of those categories are distinctly different and present in almost every state (yeah, you won't really find urban or ghetto in Wyoming) and have distinctly different demographics and, in general, partisan views, leans and trends.

[Winehole23]

and 99.8% of violent crime...

but under "urban" you're including everything that is not rural. So you're including urban, ghetto, suburban, and exurban not rural. All 5 of those categories are distinctly different and present in almost every state (yeah, you won't really find urban or ghetto in Wyoming) and have distinctly different demographics and, in general, partisan views, leans and trends.equal represention in the US Senate is an absurd anachronism and inherently anti-democratic. for that matter, so is a capped number of US reps.

[HemisfairArena]

equal represention in the US Senate is an absurd anachronism and inherently anti-democratic. for that matter, so is a capped number of US reps.

You gotta be kidding me,,,,so basically fuck the rules until you are large and in charge,,,

[Millennial_Messiah]

You gotta be kidding me,,,,so basically fuck the rules until you are large and in charge,,,

equal represention in the US Senate is an absurd anachronism and inherently anti-democratic. for that matter, so is a capped number of US reps.
Oh and I forgot to add one more classification: College town. Because that deserves its own category.

-Urban: downtowns, inner / medium to high density-building portions of large cities. Racially and ethnically diverse; deep blue trending even bluer
-Ghetto: outside of urban, outside of commercial districts of large cities; high-crime neighborhoods. Racially majority Black and Latino. Deep blue, slightly trending red
-Suburban: between ghetto and exurban; low-density SFH, typically nicer, lower-crime, white-majority, more upscale, oft-HOA type neighborhoods. Purple, trended blue last 15 years; could trend back red?
-Exurban: smaller cities and towns outside of larger metro areas, smaller stand-alone US cities not a part of large metro area, industrial towns. Large white majority, red, trended strongly red in last 15 years and should continue trending red
-College Towns: self explanatory; towns with mid-size to large colleges and universities. Racially and ethnically diverse, deep dark blue and will always be deep dark blue.
-Rural: small towns not part of metro area, farms and ranches outside towns, large-acreage residences, off-the-grid residences. Very large white majority and deep red trending even further red.

[Winehole23]

Yet we have two Dakotas. That was pure GOP power consolidation at the time.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

[Winehole23]

DC is bigger than Vermont and Wyoming.

[ElNono]

Oh and I forgot to add one more classification: College town. Because that deserves its own category.

-Urban: downtowns, inner / medium to high density-building portions of large cities. Racially and ethnically diverse; deep blue trending even bluer
-Ghetto: outside of urban, outside of commercial districts of large cities; high-crime neighborhoods. Racially majority Black and Latino. Deep blue, slightly trending red
-Suburban: between ghetto and exurban; low-density SFH, typically nicer, lower-crime, white-majority, more upscale, oft-HOA type neighborhoods. Purple, trended blue last 15 years; could trend back red?
-Exurban: smaller cities and towns outside of larger metro areas, smaller stand-alone US cities not a part of large metro area, industrial towns. Large white majority, red, trended strongly red in last 15 years and should continue trending red
-College Towns: self explanatory; towns with mid-size to large colleges and universities. Racially and ethnically diverse, deep dark blue and will always be deep dark blue.
-Rural: small towns not part of metro area, farms and ranches outside towns, large-acreage residences, off-the-grid residences. Very large white majority and deep red trending even further red.

Ghetto trending red? :lmao
Suburban purple? :lmao
Exurban: you're describing a rural town

The things you tell yourself to keep believing...

[Winehole23]

at this point I would say that DC statehood is a moral and democratic necessity to defend against other states and tyrannical presidents

[Millennial_Messiah]

at this point I would say that DC statehood is a moral and democratic necessity to defend against other states and tyrannical presidents

fine. then the capital should be in Omaha or something. always felt keeping the capital on the east coast is elitist and unfair to the rest of the country. ...and for fairness sake, the republicans get a new state too, such as the Upper Peninsula

revert Alaska/Hawaii back to provinces (1 blue, 1 red state) for fairness and evening things back to 50 states/100 senate seats

[Winehole23]

fine. then the capital should be in Omaha or something. always felt keeping the capital on the east coast is elitist and unfair to the rest of the country. ...and for fairness sake, the republicans get a new state too, such as the Upper Peninsulagreat, get your Republican reps to pass a law -- do they still know how to do that?

:lol