View Full Version : DJM named to replace Green for ASG by the Commish
lefty20
02-07-2022, 04:05 PM
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So glad it happened.... probably the most important thing to happen this season. I truly never thought he'd get here.
Robz4000
02-07-2022, 04:10 PM
As it should be tbh. Happy for Murray; he more than deserves it.
Leetonidas
02-07-2022, 04:14 PM
Wow. Pretty crazy. I thought he was the logical choice but still thought they'd pick someone else. DJ did something Demar was never able to do here :lol very impressive
exstatic
02-07-2022, 04:15 PM
They said things got jumbled up when Wiggins made it as a starter. It should have been Gobert or Green, then DJwould have been picked as a reserve, and Wiggins would have stayed home, or been the replacement.
couchman
02-07-2022, 04:15 PM
Well deserved!
TDomination
02-07-2022, 04:17 PM
so awesome!
Congrats Murray! Much deserved.
Last spur to make the all star was Lamarcus Aldridge in 2019
Leetonidas
02-07-2022, 04:20 PM
They said things got jumbled up when Wiggins made it as a starter. It should have been Gobert or Green, then DJwould have been picked as a reserve, and Wiggins would have stayed home, or been the replacement.
isnt the fan vote only a portion of the vote though now? crazy that he still got selected as a starter, he shouldnt be anywhere near an AS team, i figured the player + coach vote would have knocked his ass off
tim_duncan_fan
02-07-2022, 04:20 PM
Good for him. He has come a long way from what he was when he got here, for sure.
Chinook
02-07-2022, 04:20 PM
Honestly didn't know when the Spurs would have another All-Star. Cool to see it didn't take that long.
Good job, DJM. The first selection is the hardest. Now he'll have more cache with the average voter.
itzsoweezee
02-07-2022, 04:20 PM
Well deserved!
r0drig0lac
02-07-2022, 04:23 PM
my man https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smismokin.gif
SPURt
02-07-2022, 04:27 PM
Love to see it! He’s been awesome to watch this season!
baseline bum
02-07-2022, 04:27 PM
Congrats to Dejounte, definitely deserves an all-star selection with how he has been carrying the team this year.
daslicer
02-07-2022, 04:28 PM
He's made a huge leap this year from last year. I didn't think he could make that jump. What has really impressed me is how much his playmaking has improved. I never thought he could get better as a playmaker.
Uriel
02-07-2022, 04:28 PM
Pop is set to break the all-time wins record, Dejounte develops into an all-star, and the Spurs could land a top 5 pick in the draft. Big picture, this has been a great season.
RC_Drunkford
02-07-2022, 04:30 PM
Well deserved. I honestly thought Silver‘s bitchass would nominate AD
SpurSpike
02-07-2022, 04:30 PM
I always looked at DJ as a player who wanted to be great and was not afraid of the moment but didn't have the skills to make it happen. This year I am happy to say I was wrong, and i like it! Well deserved imo!
Mr. Body
02-07-2022, 04:36 PM
Klutch comes through.
Well deserved. I'm glad he had so many pulling for him.
lefty
02-07-2022, 04:37 PM
Better than Porker tbh...
Pop is set to break the all-time wins record, Dejounte develops into an all-star, and the Spurs could land a top 5 pick in the draft. Big picture, this has been a great season.
We also moved Forbes :-)
Well deserved. I honestly thought Silver‘s bitchass would nominate AD
I think Silver likes the spurs. Pop is ultra leftist, the team never forced him to take on the kawhi drama. The spurs have been humbled since then. San antonio, despite losing a bunch of talent and staffed is still poised for a very quick rebuild without drama. Whats to hate?
exstatic
02-07-2022, 04:40 PM
He’s mentally tough, and a leader. I’ll bet there are a bunch of teams that regret passing on him because of his gang banger history when he was very young. Thank god Jamal Crawford took him under his wing. If not for that, he could have become just another street fatality.
RC_Drunkford
02-07-2022, 04:48 PM
I think Silver likes the spurs. Pop is ultra leftist, the team never forced him to take on the kawhi drama. The spurs have been humbled since then. San antonio, despite losing a bunch of talent and staffed is still poised for a very quick rebuild without drama. Whats to hate?
Spurs are the most disrespected team in the entire league tbh. Especially when it comes to media. If Silver likes the Spurs he better make sure we jump into the top 4 in the draft lottery
siraulo23
02-07-2022, 04:53 PM
congrats to DJM, well deserved
John B
02-07-2022, 05:04 PM
Well deserved. Does this mean he’ll probably get the MIP? Maybe 1st team All-Defense too. If this continues he’ll be our 1st Supermax player since Timmy(?). Don’t even know if Timmy asked for a Supermax or available then. Will he be that good?
mo7888
02-07-2022, 05:08 PM
Well deserved..
Chinook
02-07-2022, 05:08 PM
I think Silver likes the spurs. Pop is ultra leftist, the team never forced him to take on the kawhi drama. The spurs have been humbled since then. San antonio, despite losing a bunch of talent and staffed is still poised for a very quick rebuild without drama. Whats to hate?
So Pop isn't leftist (let alone ultra, WTF), and neither is Silver. Silver seems to be centrist (mainly because he's just doing what he thinks the majority of the country wants him to do), and Pop is slightly left of center. He criticized the roll of big business in politics a little bit, but he's a firm Democrat. As a rule of thumb, you're not going to find many leftists as trade commissioners or in prominent business positions. For some reasons, having millions of dollars tends to change one's views on wealth distribution.
Regardless, I don't think it's ever been fair to say Silver hates SA. He probably appreciates how inoffensive they are. They're in a small market, but the fandom has been stable. They've helped expand the NBA brand to other continents. The ownership doesn't get into trouble, and the players don't get caught up in celebrity scandals. I don't know how much Silver looks at his teams from a fan perspective anymore. He may not like them in that regard, but he probably appreciates them from an management perspective.
John B
02-07-2022, 05:17 PM
It’s important that he’s in the AS weekend, brushing shoulders with other AS’s. DJM has the infectious personality that could get other high caliber players wanting to sign with the Spurs, especially being a PG who can help give them the ball. Good news.
heyheymymy
02-07-2022, 05:22 PM
Congrats and well deserved
DJ is the type of personality to feed off this going forward
PhantomDashCam
02-07-2022, 05:30 PM
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TD 21
02-07-2022, 05:37 PM
:wow At a Spur getting recognition and the league not folding in the process.
Regardless, I don't think it's ever been fair to say Silver hates SA. He probably appreciates how inoffensive they are. They're in a small market, but the fandom has been stable. They've helped expand the NBA brand to other continents. The ownership doesn't get into trouble, and the players don't get caught up in celebrity scandals. I don't know how much Silver looks at his teams from a fan perspective anymore. He may not like them in that regard, but he probably appreciates them from an management perspective.
At best, he's been negligent both in promoting them (paraphrasing, but I remember from a Wojnarowski story when the Spurs made the Finals in '13 him saying something along the lines of the league should have done a better job at that, even if they were opposed) and protecting them.
He failed to see the bigger picture with the Scumbag fiasco, allowing a precedent to be established where it was okay to do pretty much anything (like withhold medical information from your employer paying you $18.6M, which created the shroud of mystery and led to diminished trade value) to force a trade and leave an organization in tatters and it's been open season since.
KobesAchilles
02-07-2022, 05:46 PM
The fact that both Green and Wiggins made it over him to begin with is bullshit. I’m glad they fixed their mistake
sidenote: we could’ve had 2 all star guards to make the all star team at the same time for the first time in franchise history had we not traded DDR
wildbill2u
02-07-2022, 05:49 PM
When he came into the league he had a dribble that was shoulder high and a crazy jump shot form that gave a sideways spin to the ball. These issues meant he was going to have to retool some of these bad habits and you never know if a new player is going to accept that he will have a lot of work to do to reach his goals. This kid deserves every honor he will get because of his unbelieveable development into a quality player. That only comes from hard work combined with good coaching and encouragement to do the work. Great effort by both the player and organization.
BatManu20
02-07-2022, 05:49 PM
From “IG baller” to NBA All-Star in just 2 seasons. Good shit DJ. Well deserved. Congrats.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLBe_YuWQAIlf59?format=jpg&name=large
BatManu20
02-07-2022, 05:50 PM
On the flip side, Jarrett Allen was robbed imo.
LaMelo got the edge because on name.
KingKev
02-07-2022, 06:00 PM
It’s important that he’s in the AS weekend, brushing shoulders with other AS’s. DJM has the infectious personality that could get other high caliber players wanting to sign with the Spurs, especially being a PG who can help give them the ball. Good news.
As an FYI he has already been keeping great company for years. Running in summer mini camps with elite players, attending charity games etc.
Remember when you said he couldn’t be a leader because he got heated with Pop LOL
timtonymanu
02-07-2022, 06:04 PM
As someone who didn’t really believe in the Murray hype at first, he’s really proved me wrong and I’m glad he’s at this level in his career. Lol @ Demar getting snubbed last year though if Murray was picked this season.
John B
02-07-2022, 06:05 PM
As an FYI he has already been keeping great company for years. Running in summer mini camps with elite players, attending charity games etc.
Remember when you said he couldn’t be a leader because he got heated with Pop LOL
Now that was a mistake and I'm sure DJ himself admitted
It's still different when you're recognized by the NBA, maybe getting the Most Improved Player and 1st Team All-Defense would help recruit players to San Antonio, more especially right now. Spurs have big cap and assets to make things possible
John B
02-07-2022, 06:06 PM
I'm the 1st one to admit I wanted him traded for Simmons. He's proven me wrong.
Dejounte
02-07-2022, 06:17 PM
Holy shit
Dejounte
02-07-2022, 07:13 PM
DJ’s inherent street baller style of play will make him fun to watch in this setting. Compare that to all the times when Kawhi was an all star and it was boring as fuck.
KingKev
02-07-2022, 07:17 PM
DJ’s inherent atreet baller style of play will make him fun to watch in this setting. Compare that to all the times when Kawhi was an all star and it was boring as fuck.
I had Kawhi +2200 for AS MVP on $200 in 2020. https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/blob:https://www.spurstalk.com/4e3c1777-0455-427c-adb3-2c1dd6283e92
emanueldavidginobili
02-07-2022, 07:22 PM
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John B
02-07-2022, 07:25 PM
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Nah don't listen to him Dejounte :lol
Chinook
02-07-2022, 07:25 PM
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It's true that Lebron has always been a fan of Murray. DeJounte has that shonen developmental arc going.
timtonymanu
02-07-2022, 07:31 PM
LeBron has always been a Murray supporter, but Jesus Christ stop making everything about yourself :lol
Dejounte
02-07-2022, 07:33 PM
LeBron has always been a Murray supporter, but Jesus Christ stop making everything about yourself :lol
LeChina couldn’t even make Kobe’s death not about himself. Grade A Narcissist.
Chinook
02-07-2022, 07:44 PM
LeBron has always been a Murray supporter, but Jesus Christ stop making everything about yourself :lol
It's a good thing that Lebron is doing this. Say what you want about him, but he's probably the most influential athlete in the nation. So much of the modern NBA is about networking, and if the Spurs are ever going to be a contender in the next seven or so years, Murray recruiting stars to join him is going to be one of the most likely paths. The more you see Lebron and other players boosting him, the more possible it is that someone like Ayton or Lavine or any of the other young future FAs looks at the Spurs and thinks it's a viable location.
Slippy
02-07-2022, 07:46 PM
As an FYI he has already been keeping great company for years. Running in summer mini camps with elite players, attending charity games etc.
Remember when you said he couldn’t be a leader because he got heated with Pop LOL
Ya how many of those have come here because of that?
Its still San antonio, been there a few times for some rest and rec but could not live there unless im ready for retirement. Lol . Your best bet in getting players is winning and wanting to come back to rheir home state.
timtonymanu
02-07-2022, 07:50 PM
It's a good thing that Lebron is doing this. Say what you want about him, but he's probably the most influential athlete in the nation. So much of the modern NBA is about networking, and if the Spurs are ever going to be a contender in the next seven or so years, Murray recruiting stars to join him is going to be one of the most likely paths. The more you see Lebron and other players boosting him, the more possible it is that someone like Ayton or Lavine or any of the other young future FAs looks at the Spurs and thinks it's a viable location.
I agree with all this. I also like that guys like Draymond and KD were praising Keldon a lot during the Olympics. It can only help with their confidence. I just think Lebron can be very corny and try hard. Like when Brady retired “a part of me is gone.” Like really bro, he acts like the guy died or something lol.
Dejounte
02-07-2022, 07:51 PM
Now get our star a reliable sidekick guard/wing who can reliably score 20+ points a game and a forward/ big you can dump the ball down low to when the the game slows down.
John B
02-07-2022, 07:53 PM
It's a good thing that Lebron is doing this. Say what you want about him, but he's probably the most influential athlete in the nation. So much of the modern NBA is about networking, and if the Spurs are ever going to be a contender in the next seven or so years, Murray recruiting stars to join him is going to be one of the most likely paths. The more you see Lebron and other players boosting him, the more possible it is that someone like Ayton or Lavine or any of the other young future FAs looks at the Spurs and thinks it's a viable location.
Like LeSoft would influence people to play in SanAnton. The only influence he’ll do is get them play with him with Bronny.
Robz4000
02-07-2022, 07:59 PM
It's a good thing that Lebron is doing this. Say what you want about him, but he's probably the most influential athlete in the nation. So much of the modern NBA is about networking, and if the Spurs are ever going to be a contender in the next seven or so years, Murray recruiting stars to join him is going to be one of the most likely paths. The more you see Lebron and other players boosting him, the more possible it is that someone like Ayton or Lavine or any of the other young future FAs looks at the Spurs and thinks it's a viable location.
Eh, think it's way more likely he's swayed to leave the Spurs.
Chinook
02-07-2022, 08:02 PM
Like LeSoft would influence people to play in SanAnton. The only influence he’ll do is get them play with him with Bronny.
The question is if a player can believe him, Murray and some third player to be named later can form a super team. I don't know if DeJounte is good enough to be a top-three player on a legit contender (and know even less if Murray and any likely free agents can be two of the top three players on a contender) but players running that calculation are probably more willing to believe so now than they were before today. SA has plenty of cap room (or can make plenty to be more exact) and tradeable assets. They can now say they have an young All-Star who's held in high regard by the players in general. Their case this summer just got so much stronger, if they choose to go that path.
Chinook
02-07-2022, 08:06 PM
Eh, think it's way more likely he's swayed to leave the Spurs.
He was more likely to do that anyway. But SA has a better long-term position than most teams. Even if the ultimate fate will be for him to leave, I don't get why having players on other teams hyping him up wouldn't help PATFO's negotiating positions. Murray is firmly in the Sabonis/Ingram/Brown tier of players rather than the Collins/Turner/OG tier
^ it’s such a shame that this 2022 crop of free agents is so lousy. You can see a world otherwise where they make an impact trade now, draft well, and max out a FA.
KingKev
02-07-2022, 08:14 PM
Ya how many of those have come here because of that?
Its still San antonio, been there a few times for some rest and rec but could not live there unless im ready for retirement. Lol . Your best bet in getting players is winning and wanting to come back to rheir home state.
I live in Vancouver/Toronto. San Antonio is absolutely a C level city for some but smart ppl make sacrifices for their careers. Having DJ here helps at the margin for a team that needs every bit of help they can to recruit players on the move.
BatManu20
02-07-2022, 08:28 PM
LeBron has always been a Murray supporter, but Jesus Christ stop making everything about yourself :lol
Dude legit makes everything about himself. Next level narcissist. I get it to some degree, given who he is and how famous he’s been since he was in high school, but damn he’s on another level :lol
spurs1990
02-07-2022, 08:31 PM
Odds could be favorable if James wants to join a team with both Murray and his buddy popvich. Would sell some tickets in San Antonio
Now get our star a reliable sidekick guard/wing who can reliably score 20+ points a game and a forward/ big you can dump the ball down low to when the the game slows down.
Sabonis and Ivey sound good.
BatManu20
02-07-2022, 08:37 PM
Odds could be favorable if James wants to join a team with both Murray and his buddy popvich. Would sell some tickets in San Antonio
Way better chance of DJ signing with the lakers in 2 years than that happening tbh.
Allan Rowe vs Wade
02-07-2022, 09:03 PM
Great job IB :toast
typical spurfan getting all pissey because someone on another team has good things to say about a spur
KingKev
02-07-2022, 09:11 PM
Now get our star a reliable sidekick guard/wing who can reliably score 20+ points a game and a forward/ big you can dump the ball down low to when the the game slows down.
Boom key to success. Add a rim runner and a versatile perimeter defender and we are back in business.
ginobilized
02-07-2022, 09:32 PM
Damn! Congrats to Dejounte!!!!!
It is almost surreal to have this news. Very happy for DJ. He's earned everything.
He will be a fun guy to watch in the ASG.
Wonder if this moves the needle for the Spurs as the trade deadline approaches?
timtonymanu
02-07-2022, 09:35 PM
Great job IB :toast
typical spurfan getting all pissey because someone on another team has good things to say about a spur
I was cool when Draymond praised our players and loved all the guys hyping up Keldon during the Olympics. But ok bro.
exstatic
02-07-2022, 09:41 PM
Like LeSoft would influence people to play in SanAnton. The only influence he’ll do is get them play with him with Bronny.
That’s not what he said.
exstatic
02-07-2022, 09:44 PM
^ it’s such a shame that this 2022 crop of free agents is so lousy. You can see a world otherwise where they make an impact trade now, draft well, and max out a FA.
The impact trade would kill our chance at a top pick. Almost every trade available now would be available this summer, after we pick.
emanueldavidginobili
02-07-2022, 09:47 PM
Like others have said, this season is not bad at all. Never would I have thought coming into this season the Spurs would be represented in the All Star game in 2022. Also Bryn leaving was a huge win. Collins coming back, Primo looking like he will be with the team for the rest of the season and landing a top 7 pick.
Allan Rowe vs Wade
02-07-2022, 09:51 PM
I was cool when Draymond praised our players and loved all the guys hyping up Keldon during the Olympics. But ok bro.
do you want a cookie?
emanueldavidginobili
02-07-2022, 09:51 PM
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People forget this kid came back from an ACL injury. This dude has put in the work, it's clear.
exstatic
02-07-2022, 09:53 PM
Like others have said, this season is not bad at all. Never would I have thought coming into this season the Spurs would be represented in the All Star game in 2022. Also Bryn leaving was a huge win. Collins coming back, Primo looking like he will be with the team for the rest of the season and landing a top 7 pick.
Primo’s already back with Austin, and on the road for at least two games.
emanueldavidginobili
02-07-2022, 09:55 PM
Primo’s already back with Austin, and on the road for at least two games.
Didn't know that but makes sense on 4 days off, I am sure he will be on the RRT.
XDT76
02-07-2022, 10:00 PM
Super max?
If he keeps this up his next contract will double.
exstatic
02-07-2022, 10:05 PM
Didn't know that but makes sense on 4 days off, I am sure he will be on the RRT.
Maybe part of it. Because of the CBA, NBA players are not permitted to play during the ASB, and that includes gleague games for assignees. They may take him on half of the trip, and have him spend time in Austin the other half, since he’ll miss the time during the ASB.
timtonymanu
02-07-2022, 10:08 PM
do you want a cookie?
Sure if you’re offering
Allan Rowe vs Wade
02-07-2022, 10:42 PM
Sure if you’re offering
it's got nuts if you don't mind those in your mouth
bdictjames
02-07-2022, 10:44 PM
I was wrong about DJ. Guy matured... big-time. He is doing real great things for the Spurs.
GAustex
02-07-2022, 10:50 PM
From where he started to where he is now
Quite impressive
timtonymanu
02-07-2022, 11:08 PM
Man I remember when we offered him that 4 year contract and people were shitting on him because he was still coming off his injury from the year prior. Some people already called it a bad contract. Look at him now.
isnt the fan vote only a portion of the vote though now? crazy that he still got selected as a starter, he shouldnt be anywhere near an AS team, i figured the player + coach vote would have knocked his ass off
Because media members only voted for a handful of players, all the players who got no votes go points as if they were 9th (or something) in media vote. So very hard to wash out a dumb fan vote.
Players voting for Wiggins effectively guaranteed his spot.
KingKev
02-07-2022, 11:36 PM
The same ppl who doubted DJ for his haircut, watch, colourful shoes, his confidence, instgram account and oh yeah can’t forget the rough upbringing is exactly what is wrong with Spurs fans.
KingKev
02-07-2022, 11:38 PM
Man I remember when we offered him that 4 year contract and people were shitting on him because he was still coming off his injury from the year prior. Some people already called it a bad contract. Look at him now.
Anyone with half a brain knew that was a great deal for both sides. I think New Balance gave him another 30ms like the next day.
Harry Callahan
02-07-2022, 11:50 PM
Good for DJM. He's worked very hard and it's nice recognition. It's tough to make the All Star team when you play for a team with less than a .500 record.
Chinook
02-08-2022, 12:07 AM
I honestly don't remember Murray's upbringing being an issue for STers. I remember the shit with his dad trying to take credit for him and DJM being like, "Nah". I also remember Murray talking about the Spurs "saving his life". I'm not doubting he had a rough upbringing, but I don't think that was a knock on him. "IG Baller", as stupid as that nickname is, isn't about gang life. He's always said and usually always did the right things on and off the court. The most "thuggish" thing he's done as a Spur was him going at Harden a few years ago. Dude's gotten five techs in his whole career.
Of course, that's Murray as an NBA player. Maybe teams did overrate the effect whatever upbringing would have. Maybe in college it was something he struggled with. But I don't think he's had to struggle against the label in the pros. Outside of his words and maybe a bit involving KPJ, I think it's been a non-issue in his perception.
I do wonder though if that's played any role in DJM not getting more ad time. Originally, I did think he would crave that attention. I still think losing his sister played a role in him not doing the HEB commercials this year, but maybe they didn't want him? That'd be fucked up if he were missing out on legit ad money (outside of his shoe deal) because of a "history" that's been a non-factor forever and as far as I know was never bad in the first place.
This is so good, I'm really happy for Dejounte. Whilst some may scoff at the All-Star game the fact is it's a huge marker for a player and he must be so incredibly proud of himself.
Hopefully this educates a certain demographic of SpursTalk as well - the IG Baller stuff was always misplaced. Some players like to to promote their hard work, others don't and neither is right or wrong. Just because you are old and white it doesn't mean you can diminish & doubt how someone else promotes their own work without evidence to back it up. What matters is the improvement and it's clear DeJounte has been putting in valuable, thoughtful work - his shooting, dribbling and PnR passing in particular has improved so much in the last 24 months.
Budkin
02-08-2022, 01:00 AM
I might actually watch the ASG this year! Congrats to Dejounte!
SpurPadre
02-08-2022, 01:15 AM
Man, I've been busy at work all day and just found out about this. I don't post that often anymore here nor do I watch much basketball these days (not a big fan of the way the game is played now, tbh) but I still keep track of stuff as a Spurs fan for life and this is just great news. Really happy for DJM!
timtonymanu
02-08-2022, 01:35 AM
Man, I've been busy at work all day and just found out about this. I don't post that often anymore here nor do I watch much basketball these days (not a big fan of the way the game is played now, tbh) but I still keep track of stuff as a Spurs fan for life and this is just great news. Really happy for DJM!
I haven’t been posting much here lately either but thought you were still around. I have to eat my crow now since White has peaked and Murray turned out to be the better player. :lol :toast
callo1
02-08-2022, 02:03 AM
Grats to DJ, he deserves this recognition.
Excellent body of work thus far.
SpurPadre
02-08-2022, 02:12 AM
I haven’t been posting much here lately either but thought you were still around. I have to eat my crow now since White has peaked and Murray turned out to be the better player. :lol :toast
I’m glad Murray is as good as I thought he’d be but it sucks that White is just not as good as we were hoping he’d be. Though I’ve never been as taken with him as many here were, I’ve kept hoping he’d prove me wrong. Still a serviceable player but not on Murray’s level. Oh well, here’s to finally having an All Star again! :toast
Fireball
02-08-2022, 03:25 AM
congrats to DJ ... well deserved ... have not watched an ASG for quite some time so maybe i need to tune in this time
widowmaker
02-08-2022, 07:12 AM
I live in Vancouver/Toronto. San Antonio is absolutely a C level city for some but smart ppl make sacrifices for their careers. Having DJ here helps at the margin for a team that needs every bit of help they can to recruit players on the move.
San Antonio isnt black enough for the nba and isn’t white enough for america.
exstatic
02-08-2022, 07:45 AM
I honestly don't remember Murray's upbringing being an issue for STers. I remember the shit with his dad trying to take credit for him and DJM being like, "Nah". I also remember Murray talking about the Spurs "saving his life". I'm not doubting he had a rough upbringing, but I don't think that was a knock on him. "IG Baller", as stupid as that nickname is, isn't about gang life. He's always said and usually always did the right things on and off the court. The most "thuggish" thing he's done as a Spur was him going at Harden a few years ago. Dude's gotten five techs in his whole career.
Of course, that's Murray as an NBA player. Maybe teams did overrate the effect whatever upbringing would have. Maybe in college it was something he struggled with. But I don't think he's had to struggle against the label in the pros. Outside of his words and maybe a bit involving KPJ, I think it's been a non-issue in his perception.
I do wonder though if that's played any role in DJM not getting more ad time. Originally, I did think he would crave that attention. I still think losing his sister played a role in him not doing the HEB commercials this year, but maybe they didn't want him? That'd be fucked up if he were missing out on legit ad money (outside of his shoe deal) because of a "history" that's been a non-factor forever and as far as I know was never bad in the first place.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/12dayschristmas4/dejounte-murray-biggest-mentor-jamal-crawford
Sounds like he was actually a gang banger, and JCrawford spotted him early, and pulled him away from that.
I remember a few whispers about him being available last summer, and if he was possibly going to be traded, they wouldn’t be able to run the commercials he was in. I’d hope that was the reason he wasn’t in them.
Chinook
02-08-2022, 08:14 AM
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/12dayschristmas4/dejounte-murray-biggest-mentor-jamal-crawford
Sounds like he was actually a gang banger, and JCrawford spotted him early, and pulled him away from that.
I remember a few whispers about him being available last summer, and if he was possibly going to be traded, they wouldn’t be able to run the commercials he was in. I’d hope that was the reason he wasn’t in them.
Thanks it was a good read, and I wouldn't be surprised to hear DeJounte go into a bit more detail in whatever feature interview he gets later this month. His tweet bringing up his past again can be seen as a signal he's ready to talk. At the same time, I still didn't get the impression he did anything that bad. He seemed too young to really get into trouble (though apparently being black adds like 10 years in law enforcement's eyes). I'm glad he overcame it for his sake and ours.
I also considered the trade rumors as a reason for the HEB commercials. I don't know how much I believe it, as I doubt the organization would be direct with how close of a trade possibility DJM was compared to White and the others. I know I had him on the block above those guys, but I never thought the Spurs did. Keldon as the gold medalist made sense. But White and Poeltl don't exactly scream photogenic. As I said, Murray I doubt was in the mood to do them, and even if HEB stayed away because of his "past", I doubt that stops them next year. I don't live in the SA area, so I don't see local ads very often outside of games. Has he been in any small spots? I have seen other guys (especially Keldon) getting local air time. Not Murray though.
SayTown
02-08-2022, 10:37 AM
isnt the fan vote only a portion of the vote though now? crazy that he still got selected as a starter, he shouldnt be anywhere near an AS team, i figured the player + coach vote would have knocked his ass off
Don't underestimate the GS bandwagoners
John B
02-08-2022, 10:57 AM
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/12dayschristmas4/dejounte-murray-biggest-mentor-jamal-crawford
Sounds like he was actually a gang banger, and JCrawford spotted him early, and pulled him away from that.
I remember a few whispers about him being available last summer, and if he was possibly going to be traded, they wouldn’t be able to run the commercials he was in. I’d hope that was the reason he wasn’t in them.
Thanks. It was a good read. That character of perseverance, coming out from that environment, having a chip on his shoulder, the way other people viewed him, even at the green room, really shows his development in overcoming. He’s not a quitter and will not back down. I guess that image of him pushing Harden back, 100 lbs on him but not backing down. All that with a great attitude is propelling him up. He was lucky to had Crawford, but equally lucky to be with the organization like Spurs with top notched people. He could very well have been in a lousy organization, mismanaged and who knows how bad that would be on his development also as a person. I think finally getting tapped in the AS, and who knows what else, MIP? 1st Team All-Defense? DJ will just continue to improve and we’re just seeing the beginning of a HOF career. Congrats Dejounte!
On the flip side, Jarrett Allen was robbed imo.
LaMelo got the edge because on name.
Someone gets robbed every year. Honestly, DeRozan got robbed last time because they wanted to give a pity spot to Mike Conley.
Super stoked for DJ...he has definitely been a bright spot on this season, and I actually think inclusion in these kind of things could spur him (get it) to bigger things. If he gets a taste of that All-Star life, he may want to keep it going.
Floyd Pacquiao
02-08-2022, 11:58 AM
It took Demar Derozan leaving for him to be an all star
John B
02-08-2022, 01:45 PM
I can see segments of Murray’s story in the AS and the media milking it. It helps becoming more a household name and a source of inspiration to a lot, maybe an ambassador to Big Brothers Big Sisters or sort and catapults his name more. It could help attract players wanting to play with him.
Chinook
02-08-2022, 06:34 PM
I can see segments of Murray’s story in the AS and the media milking it. It helps becoming more a household name and a source of inspiration to a lot, maybe an ambassador to Big Brothers Big Sisters or sort and catapults his name more. It could help attract players wanting to play with him.
Basically, if Murray balls out during the ASG (which would be hard, especially given his last-man status), it would do a lot for his stock and that of the Spurs. A lot of people (including myself in this) have a hard time seeing Murray as anything but a role-player masquerading as a star on a bad team. If he can show out on the biggest stage (that SA can reasonably expect to have this season), then more people will be comfortable with the idea that DeJounte can be built around and joined.
Though that could end up meaning that the Spurs would have to save cap space to renegotiate his contract next up to a near max next off-season. You can't market him as a star on one hand and be unwilling to pay him as one on the other.
emanueldavidginobili
02-08-2022, 06:53 PM
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XDT76
02-08-2022, 07:00 PM
The irony of things that the Spurs who view character as an important factor to be the organisation willingly to give him a chance when he was bypassed by many other organisations.
daslicer
02-08-2022, 07:31 PM
The irony of things that the Spurs who view character as an important factor to be the organisation willingly to give him a chance when he was bypassed by many other organisations.
I think the spurs factored in having a strong group of veterans around him in Parker, Manu, Mills that could guide him.
emanueldavidginobili
02-08-2022, 07:40 PM
The irony of things that the Spurs who view character as an important factor to be the organisation willingly to give him a chance when he was bypassed by many other organisations.
I often feel like that was exaggerated, he had a rough up bringing yeah, but there is not a single legal document of him ever being in trouble and he has always had a great personality.
XDT76
02-08-2022, 07:44 PM
I often feel like that was exaggerated, he had a rough up bringing yeah, but there is not a single legal document of him ever being in trouble and he has always had a great personality.
Regardless it did not stop multiple organisations from dropping their promise to draft him
emanueldavidginobili
02-08-2022, 07:47 PM
Regardless it did not stop multiple organisations from dropping their promise to draft him
Yeah i'm not complaining I love that he dropped to 29
I think the spurs factored in having a strong group of veterans around him in Parker, Manu, Mills that could guide him.
I often feel like that was exaggerated, he had a rough up bringing yeah, but there is not a single legal document of him ever being in trouble and he has always had a great personality.
This.
Pretty sure we all get into stupid stuff when we are kids. Some more than ever. That doesn't define your adulthood, and DJ is a great example of that. He just needed some guidance and structure, probably something he never had growing up.
RC_Drunkford
02-08-2022, 08:15 PM
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1491207682262511617
of course McDermott and Johnson don't make it, but Patty does now that he plays for the Nets. But hey the NBA doesn't hate the Spurs
Degoat
02-08-2022, 08:19 PM
That’s gotta be one of the worst 3 PT contestants in a longtime tbh
Allan Rowe vs Wade
02-08-2022, 11:00 PM
The irony of things that the Spurs who view character as an important factor to be the organisation willingly to give him a chance when he was bypassed by many other organisations.
viewing character as important may have meant the spurs actually talked to him and his support network and got to know him a bit, and determined he wasn't an asshole
John B
02-08-2022, 11:31 PM
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1491207682262511617
of course McDermott and Johnson don't make it, but Patty does now that he plays for the Nets. But hey the NBA doesn't hate the Spurs
I also notice that. I think Bertans also when he was finally a Wizard. The only thing I remember was Beli winning it. Other than that, I don’t remember Spurs getting invited, or how does it work?
John B
02-08-2022, 11:35 PM
viewing character as important may have meant the spurs actually talked to him and his support network and got to know him a bit, and determined he wasn't an asshole
PATFO tbh looks for those players who overcome adversities. I don’t know what happened to Luka, but him and Weiskamp killed it at Combine
timtonymanu
02-08-2022, 11:39 PM
I also notice that. I think Bertans also when he was finally a Wizard. The only thing I remember was Beli winning it. Other than that, I don’t remember Spurs getting invited, or how does it work?
It took years for Bonner to be invited just for one appearance and he almost beat Kyrie Irving (I think ?) for the title.
Patty gonna kill it in the 3-pt contest
BatManu20
02-09-2022, 02:03 AM
Bertans was leading the league in 3P% at the time of the All-Star break and Spurs fans were on social media daily literally begging for him to get an invite and the NBA still told him to go fuck himself lol. The very next season he’s in DC and he’s the first one to get an invite :lol
No surprise they continue to fuck us. Silver is a noob who only wants players from big markets or really marketable players from small ones. The fact he picked Dejounte over AD for the ASG honestly surprised me, though it was clearly the obvious choice. It took players clamoring for him to get the nod for Silver to pull the trigger. :lol
dbestpro
02-09-2022, 07:49 AM
So, if Murray is all that and a bag of chips, why didn't Pop pick him over Johnson for the Olympics?
exstatic
02-09-2022, 08:15 AM
So, if Murray is all that and a bag of chips, why didn't Pop pick him over Johnson for the Olympics?
Because Pop didn’t pick him for the Olympics team. He doesn’t have that final say. He picked both Keldon, and earlier White for their respective Select Teams. They made it on to the Mens Senior Team by attrition.
daslicer
02-09-2022, 04:26 PM
Bertans was leading the league in 3P% at the time of the All-Star break and Spurs fans were on social media daily literally begging for him to get an invite and the NBA still told him to go fuck himself lol. The very next season he’s in DC and he’s the first one to get an invite :lol
No surprise they continue to fuck us. Silver is a noob who only wants players from big markets or really marketable players from small ones. The fact he picked Dejounte over AD for the ASG honestly surprised me, though it was clearly the obvious choice. It took players clamoring for him to get the nod for Silver to pull the trigger. :lol
I remember for years the NBA wouldn't allow Matt Bonner in the 3-point contest until Kobe lobbied for him to get in.
KobesAchilles
02-09-2022, 04:34 PM
DJ needs to keep making these games tbh. The NBA already keeps screwing us over with these lack of 3 point invites/dunk contest invites/ and rookie sophomore game. If we are ever going to attract a disgruntled star (very unlikely I know) we need DJ to rep us an all-star.
Durant just picked DJ with the 4th pick in the reserves round.
He got picked ahead of Jimmy Butler, Gobert, Lamelo Ball, James Hardin and others.
slick'81
02-10-2022, 07:03 PM
Everyone knows Murray is s stud
emanueldavidginobili
02-10-2022, 07:09 PM
That's telling that Durant and I know LBJ wanted him too that he was selected before so many other "stars" in the league
emanueldavidginobili
02-10-2022, 09:56 PM
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