God Bless Vladimir Putin

[Millennial_Messiah]

Fuck Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Mark Milley, Kamala Harris, the Obama's and Clinton's, and the UN & NATO, tbh.

Hope the best for the innocent Ukrainian citizens, including a girl I went out on dates and had sex with in outer Chicago metro in 2019, Mariana L., she moved back to Lviv at the start of covid.

But yeah.... all cheers to Putin. Prayers for Russia to win this fight and WIN this war. :hat #iStandWithRussia #iStandWithPutin :toast

https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/newscms/2017_45/2222991/06321841.jpg

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/20170912_coyle_large.jpg

[koriwhat]

Fuck Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Mark Milley, Kamala Harris, the Obama's and Clinton's, and the UN & NATO, tbh.

Hope the best for the innocent Ukrainian citizens...

I agree with strictly the above. :tu

[Thread]

Putin suffered President Trump, but likes him/enjoys him no more than the next fellow in that line that cruised by him. See, we play that game where there is nobody that can't be our friend. Clinton tried to charm Putin with that toy from Staples., Hussein tried by telling him he could give him a deal after the election, Biden tried by ignoring him at that sit last year (see, that's how I got Girl, I ignored her, so, she ignored me back and I crawled on over immediately...bad example) but you get the idea, President Trump tried by being Putin's cool bud.

Putin doesn't want to play games of any sort in the Kremlin, or, in the battlefield.

[HemisfairArena]

Putin has an Ace up his sleeve,,,,and I think its China. Some sort of agreement that Russia takes Ukraine and China takes Taiwan and they back each other when the shit hits the fan. Russia and China together are stronger than all the other countries combined against them. They have figured this out. If China backs Russia and tells the US to cancel the sanctions, US is in big trouble. China coming to collect on their debt, crushing the US credit rating and levying sanctions against the US and turning the tables.

[lebomb]

Fuck Banana Puddin

[lebomb]

Putin has an Ace up his sleeve,,,,and I think its China. Some sort of agreement that Russia takes Ukraine and China takes Taiwan and they back each other when the shit hits the fan. Russia and China together are stronger than all the other countries combined against them. They have figured this out. If China backs Russia and tells the US to cancel the sanctions, US is in big trouble. China coming to collect on their debt, crushing the US credit rating and levying sanctions against the US and turning the tables.


Yeah right :rolleyes

[koriwhat]

Yeah right :rolleyes

That scenario could be a reality... Remember when Covid first hit and China was turning ships back around that had PPE and Meds? Yeah we're def fucked if they cut us off and we fucked ourselves to begin with when Billy Boy brought them into the WTO.

[ElNono]

Putin has an Ace up his sleeve,,,,and I think its China. Some sort of agreement that Russia takes Ukraine and China takes Taiwan and they back each other when the shit hits the fan. Russia and China together are stronger than all the other countries combined against them. They have figured this out. If China backs Russia and tells the US to cancel the sanctions, US is in big trouble. China coming to collect on their debt, crushing the US credit rating and levying sanctions against the US and turning the tables.

:lol You don't understand how any of this works...

"China coming to collect on their debt" :lmao

They're not even the top holders of US treasuries. If they want to sell them at a discount, plenty of buyers out there.

"China tells the US to cancel the sanctions" :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[HemisfairArena]

:lol You don't understand how any of this works...

"China coming to collect on their debt" :lmao

They're not even the top holders of US treasuries. If they want to sell them at a discount, plenty of buyers out there.

"China tells the US to cancel the sanctions" :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Wanna bet on that, NoNo?,,,,

[ElNono]

Wanna bet on that, NoNo?,,,,

Bet on what? That you don't know what you're talking about? That's patently clear.

Here, if you know how to read, educate yourself, so you can stop saying stupid things...

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/040115/reasons-why-china-buys-us-treasury-bonds.asp

[ElNono]

It's actually written for 10+ year olds... shouldn't be hard to understand at all...

[HemisfairArena]

Bet on what? That you don't know what you're talking about? That's patently clear.

Here, if you know how to read, educate yourself, so you can stop saying stupid things...

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/040115/reasons-why-china-buys-us-treasury-bonds.asp

I guess you dont understand how any of this works do ya?

https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3112343/us-debt-china-how-big-it-and-why-it-important

China can sell the debt, wreck the US credit rating and therefore have US banks sanctioned for not paying their debt. The dollar plummets and the only way it hurts China is raises the cost of product,,,,but when it comes to a military problem and China is trying to retake Taiwan,,,,they dont give a shit about you or the US.

[DMC]

Fuck Banana Puddin

Leave Banana Puddin' out of it.

[HemisfairArena]

NoNo, to put it so you can understand,,,when you owe a credit card company and cant pay the bill, the credit card company sells your debt to a debt collector and writes you off. Your credit rating plummets and you cant borrow shit. Same would happen with the US. Understand?,,,,

[ElNono]

I guess you dont understand how any of this works do ya?

https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3112343/us-debt-china-how-big-it-and-why-it-important

China can sell the debt, wreck the US credit rating and therefore have US banks sanctioned for not paying their debt. The dollar plummets and the only way it hurts China is raises the cost of product,,,,but when it comes to a military problem and China is trying to retake Taiwan,,,,they dont give a shit about you or the US.

China can sell the debt and automatically blow up it's own economy. Why do you think China holds US treasuries instead of, say, Euros?

Their entire foreign reserves are in US dollars. The moment they sell the debt (which, BTW, gets bought by somebody else), the renminbi becomes so expensive they can't export competitively anymore.

This is basic economics 101, which is on that article you didn't read, and why you look stupid again.


NoNo, to put it so you can understand,,,when you owe a credit card company and cant pay the bill, the credit card company sells your debt to a debt collector and writes you off. Your credit rating plummets and you cant borrow shit. Same would happen with the US. Understand?,,,,

:lmao National debt/currencies/economies don't work anything like a household/personal economy. This is the fallacy stupid people fall for every time.

The US can never not pay the bill. They owe in US dollars and can create as many US dollars as it wants to pay off any debt. Heck, the US can issue a new 1 trillion dollars (what's owed to China) in debt and you'll have countries lining up to buy it.

The only by-product of a large emission would be high inflation, which automatically liquefies debt (so it hurts the creditor, not the debtor), so in this case China would actually be the one to lose the most, and that's exactly why China will never be "coming to collect on their debt" :lmao

They're simply better off doing what they do now, spending that money buying assets overseas and lending it to other countries.

[DMC]

China can sell the debt and automatically blow up it's own economy. Why do you think China holds US treasuries instead of, say, Euros?

Their entire foreign reserves are in US dollars. The moment they sell the debt (which, BTW, gets bought by somebody else), the renminbi becomes so expensive they can't export competitively anymore.

This is basic economics 101, which is on that article you didn't read, and why you look stupid again.



:lmao National debt/currencies/economies don't work anything like a household/personal economy. This is the fallacy stupid people fall for every time.

The US can never not pay the bill. They owe in US dollars and can create as many US dollars as it wants to pay off any debt. Heck, the US can issue a new 1 trillion dollars (what's owed to China) in debt and you'll have countries lining up to buy it.

The only by-product of a large emission would be high inflation, which automatically liquefies debt (so it hurts the creditor, not the debtor), so in this case China would actually be the one to lose the most, and that's exactly why China will never be "coming to collect on their debt" :lmao

They're simply better off doing what they do now, spending that money buying assets overseas and lending it to other countries.

But the US government will always use that debt as a political talking point, like it really matters, then they'll up it by about 50% in a couple years.

[ElNono]

BTW, the only reason the US couldn't pay a bill is strictly political, that's why the big stupid drama every time some politician wants to become famous by doing a long speech during debt ceiling deliberations.

[ElNono]

But the US government will always use that debt as a political talking point, like it really matters, then they'll up it by about 50% in a couple years.

The debt has been a strictly political talking point for a number of decades now, because politicians have been selling the household economy examples, which are easy to relate to, but completely wrong.

The bad combo is high debt and no growth, and the US has simply not experienced that in a long ass time (maybe a blip one year based on world economy slowing down or some crisis. 2008 and COVID are probably the last two, with high growth in-between).

The US has a privileged position of only owing debt in US dollars, which is not the case with most countries. This came from the Bretton Woods system, a byproduct of winning WWII.

[boutons_deux]

China announce every country's territory must be respected

[Will Hunting]

Putin has an Ace up his sleeve,,,,and I think its China. Some sort of agreement that Russia takes Ukraine and China takes Taiwan and they back each other when the shit hits the fan. Russia and China together are stronger than all the other countries combined against them. They have figured this out. If China backs Russia and tells the US to cancel the sanctions, US is in big trouble. China coming to collect on their debt, crushing the US credit rating and levying sanctions against the US and turning the tables.
:lol in the day since you posted this, Russian banks have had their access to SWIFT cut off and Russian air travel to the west has been restricted by basically every NATO or EU member.

when do we get to the part where China tells us to “cancel sanctions” :lmao

[hater]

:tu

World peace

[Thread]

:lol in the day since you posted this, Russian banks have had their access to SWIFT cut off and Russian air travel to the west has been restricted by basically every NATO or EU member.

when do we get to the part where China tells us to “cancel sanctions” :lmao

Well, it wasn't after China sent us COVID, Will. tee, hee.

[Will Hunting]

Well, it wasn't after China sent us COVID, Will. tee, hee.
You mean when Xi convinced Trump that China was working really hard to stop COVID :lmao

"China is working weally weally hard, I PWOMISE!"

https://risksciences.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Trump-transparency-tweet-24-Jan-2020.png

[clambake]

Lol

[TimDunkem]

Dale getting smoked again. Just like Trump when he lost Georgia. :tu

[Thread]

Dale getting smoked again. Just like Trump when he lost Georgia. :tu

He made President. 1 of only 44 other to do it across 4 centuries.

And he'll be President forever. Just like the 44 before him.

ha, ha.

[Blake]

NoNo, to put it so you can understand,,,when you owe a credit card company and cant pay the bill, the credit card company sells your debt to a debt collector and writes you off. Your credit rating plummets and you cant borrow shit. Same would happen with the US. Understand?,,,,

:lol equating this to your capital one card

[pgardn]

The patriotism in this thread.
Patriotism and family and lives, the conservatives own these attributes...

Sure thing.

[Thread]

The patriotism in this thread.
Patriotism and family and lives, the conservatives own these attributes...

Sure thing.

Patriotism good now.

[Blake]

The patriotism in this thread.
Patriotism and family and lives, the conservatives own these attributes...

Sure thing.

And they love them some Putin.

[pgardn]

I agree with strictly the above. :tu

"Thumbs up for Putin"

And koriwhat labels people commies. What kind of government does he think Putin longs for... what kind of government Putin flourished in.
Or the upper most picture "lets get Trump working on this" The guy who thought the US had sent amphibious units into Ukraine? THAT GUY?

[Thread]

And they love them some Putin.

Sure, if Putin is driving Biden in front of the hoard. Lamentation of the women is next, Blake.

[pgardn]

Nationalism good now.

No.
Patriotism

"Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country to aide all citizens and promote a free democratic society"

[Thread]

No.
Patriotism

"Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country to aide all citizens and promote a free democratic society"

You blew that concept to hell and back after this...

Trump President.
Not Clinton.

I ain't forgettin' and I ain't forgivin', peeg.

Never.

[koriwhat]

"Thumbs up for Putin"

And koriwhat labels people commies. What kind of government does he think Putin longs for... what kind of government Putin flourished in.
Or the upper most picture "lets get Trump working on this" The guy who thought the US had sent amphibious units into Ukraine? THAT GUY?

Lol you're so full of shit bro... IDGAF about either Russia nor Ukraine and def not Putin.

Learn some reading comprehension before you insult me further with your bs labels that don't pertain to me.

[ChumpDumper]

Y'know kori has yet to express caring for anything other than the death of people here.

[koriwhat]

Below is what I agreed with PG so wtf are you going on about?

"Fuck Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Mark Milley, Kamala Harris, the Obama's and Clinton's, and the UN & NATO, tbh.

Hope the best for the innocent Ukrainian citizens..."

And I still stand by the above! Fuck them all and hope they all(excluding the innocent Ukrainians) burn in hell! :tu

[ChumpDumper]

:lol he didn't say "Fuck Putin."

[ElNono]

:lol in the day since you posted this, Russian banks have had their access to SWIFT cut off and Russian air travel to the west has been restricted by basically every NATO or EU member.

when do we get to the part where China tells us to “cancel sanctions” :lmao

lmao

[Will Hunting]

:lmao even Switzerland is going to start with the Russian sanctions tomorrow

If Putin has some China ace up his sleeve to prevent sanctions, now would be a great time to play it.

[Ef-man]

Dale getting smoked again. Just like Trump when he lost Georgia. :tu

They should name a cigar after dale from AZ as that is the shit that is always selling.

[Blake]

Sure, if Putin is driving Biden in front of the hoard. Lamentation of the women is next, Blake.

Russian love good now

[Thread]

Russian love good now

True. Trumps Biden hate even more. If my Biden hate were a state, it'd be Texas.

[Blake]

True. Trumps Biden hate even more. If my Biden hate were a state, it'd be Texas.

Well then you're no patriot.

[Thread]

Well then you're no patriot.

Absolutely not.

[pgardn]

:lol he didn't say "Fuck Putin."

Or fuck Trump.

They have absolutely nothing to do with his views.
Which is of course total bull shit.

[Blake]

Absolutely not.

As long as we're clear, comrade.

[Thread]

As long as we're clear, comrade.

As glass.

[Millennial_Messiah]

They should name a cigar after dale from AZ as that is the shit that is always selling.

There's always this:

https://www.colorincolorado.org/sites/default/files/styles/share_image/public/arizona.png?itok=v-hvXOTM



:lmao even Switzerland is going to start with the Russian sanctions tomorrow

If Putin has some China ace up his sleeve to prevent sanctions, now would be a great time to play it.

Simple. All Russia/China has to do to prevent sanctions is to tag team up with each other and tell the US to bend over and take it or we're launching nukes, first we're going to make a nuclear wasteland out of the NATO countries and Israel and then we're going to throw a barrage of thousands of nukes at the US mainland; and there's going to to be mass assured destruction and we have little to lose and you have everything to lose, being the "good ole" U.S.A. and all.

While Russia or China could never take down the U.S. on their own, they are the perfect combination, along with satellite allies in Iran and North Korea, to team up to defeat the US and make the US surrender or risk mutually assured destruction and hundreds of millions of lives vaporized and killed globally. Both China and Russia have loads of nukes, but China doesn't have enough experience or intelligence, while Russia doesn't have enough manpower. China + Russia in a nuclear WWIII is an indestructible combo.

[koriwhat]

Or fuck Trump.

They have absolutely nothing to do with his views.
Which is of course total bull shit.

I've said both fuck Trump and Putin... Shit I've said fuck Trump numerous times here over the yrs but yall only read/hear what yall want to and nothing else.

Now I'll continue on and say fuck you and CumDumpster too! :tu

[pgardn]

There's always this:

https://www.colorincolorado.org/sites/default/files/styles/share_image/public/arizona.png?itok=v-hvXOTM




Simple. All Russia/China has to do to prevent sanctions is to tag team up with each other and tell the US to bend over and take it or we're launching nukes, first we're going to make a nuclear wasteland out of the NATO countries and Israel and then we're going to throw a barrage of thousands of nukes at the US mainland; and there's going to to be mass assured destruction and we have little to lose and you have everything to lose, being the "good ole" U.S.A. and all.

While Russia or China could never take down the U.S. on their own, they are the perfect combination, along with satellite allies in Iran and North Korea, to team up to defeat the US and make the US surrender or risk mutually assured destruction and hundreds of millions of lives vaporized and killed globally. Both China and Russia have loads of nukes, but China doesn't have enough experience or intelligence, while Russia doesn't have enough manpower. China + Russia in a nuclear WWIII is an indestructible combo.

You are absolutely braindead.
What sort of bad fumes did you inhale to write down this piss poor fantasy. You got to be able to do better than this.

[ElNono]

Simple. All Russia/China has to do to prevent sanctions is to tag team up with each other and tell the US to bend over and take it or we're launching nukes, first we're going to make a nuclear wasteland out of the NATO countries and Israel and then we're going to throw a barrage of thousands of nukes at the US mainland; and there's going to to be mass assured destruction and we have little to lose and you have everything to lose, being the "good ole" U.S.A. and all.

While Russia or China could never take down the U.S. on their own, they are the perfect combination, along with satellite allies in Iran and North Korea, to team up to defeat the US and make the US surrender or risk mutually assured destruction and hundreds of millions of lives vaporized and killed globally. Both China and Russia have loads of nukes, but China doesn't have enough experience or intelligence, while Russia doesn't have enough manpower. China + Russia in a nuclear WWIII is an indestructible combo.

2/10

The moment Russia and/or China say that, they're entirely wiped out of the earth. It's simply a lot easier to wipe out the head of those countries than it is to launch and land ICBMs all over the US, Europe, Israel, Asia and Oceania.

Again, your premise is that these countries are stupid. They aren't. China especially has a sweet deal going on with the US economically and it took them decades to get to where they are.

[pgardn]

I've said both fuck Trump and Putin... Shit I've said fuck Trump numerous times here over the yrs but yall only read/hear what yall want to and nothing else.

Now I'll continue on and say fuck you and CumDumpster too! :tu

Well Okay then.

Can you help me buy some pastry? And...
Is there anything that you have NOT said "fkthat" to then? Its gotta be a much shorter list.

Did you say fk Thread for being a commie?

[pgardn]

2/10

The moment Russia and/or China say that, they're entirely wiped out of the earth. It's simply a lot easier to wipe out the head of those countries than it is to launch and land ICBMs all over the US, Europe, Israel, Asia and Oceania.

Again, your premise is that these countries are stupid. They aren't. China especially has a sweet deal going on with the US economically and it took them decades to get to where they are.

2?

You can use negative numbers when its this bad.

[Will Hunting]

Simple. All Russia/China has to do to prevent sanctions is to tag team up with each other and tell the US to bend over and take it or we're launching nukes, first we're going to make a nuclear wasteland out of the NATO countries and Israel and then we're going to throw a barrage of thousands of nukes at the US mainland; and there's going to to be mass assured destruction and we have little to lose and you have everything to lose, being the "good ole" U.S.A. and all.

While Russia or China could never take down the U.S. on their own, they are the perfect combination, along with satellite allies in Iran and North Korea, to team up to defeat the US and make the US surrender or risk mutually assured destruction and hundreds of millions of lives vaporized and killed globally. Both China and Russia have loads of nukes, but China doesn't have enough experience or intelligence, while Russia doesn't have enough manpower. China + Russia in a nuclear WWIII is an indestructible combo.
:lmao you've watched one too many Russian army underwear model recruitment ads.

Ignoring other NATO country capabilities, the US alone has 14 Ohio-Class nuclear submarines at undisclosed locations around the world (they're extremely stealthy subs that are near impossible for other countries to track, and you can bet with what's going on the US has most of them in striking distance of Russia right now), and each one has the ability to launch 192 nuclear warheads (it only takes a few minutes to assign coordinates & launch). That's over 2,500 nuclear warheads (each one being 30x more powerful than what we dropped at Hiroshima) that Russia and China would never be able to take out in a first strike, exponentially more than Russia and China's nuclear capability in a first strike put together.

The US could wipe every major Chinese and Russian city off the map in a few minutes by pressing a few minutes. You're a colossal idiot if you think Russia and China could ever win a nuclear war with the US, even if they were the ones who struck first.

[Will Hunting]

2/10

The moment Russia and/or China say that, they're entirely wiped out of the earth. It's simply a lot easier to wipe out the head of those countries than it is to launch and land ICBMs all over the US, Europe, Israel, Asia and Oceania.

Again, your premise is that these countries are stupid. They aren't. China especially has a sweet deal going on with the US economically and it took them decades to get to where they are.
:lol the Russian military can't even hit its targets in Ukraine with any precision, yet the pedocons think they'd be able to get in a nuclear missile dick measuring contest with the US and come out on top.

[CosmicCowboy]

:lmao you've watched one too many Russian army underwear model recruitment ads.

Ignoring other NATO country capabilities, the US alone has 14 Ohio-Class nuclear submarines at undisclosed locations around the world (they're extremely stealthy subs that are near impossible for other countries to track, and you can bet with what's going on the US has most of them in striking distance of Russia right now), and each one has the ability to launch 192 nuclear warheads (it only takes a few minutes to assign coordinates & launch). That's over 2,500 nuclear warheads (each one being 30x more powerful than what we dropped at Hiroshima) that Russia and China would never be able to take out in a first strike, exponentially more than Russia and China's nuclear capability in a first strike put together.

The US could wipe every major Chinese and Russian city off the map in a few minutes by pressing a few minutes. You're a colossal idiot if you think Russia and China could ever win a nuclear war with the US, even if they were the ones who struck first.

Nobody wins a nuclear exchange.

[Will Hunting]

Nobody wins a nuclear exchange.
100% agreed, a M.A.D. scenario between the US and China/Russia could very well lead to the end of mankind, but that also means the end of Putin and Xi. Neither Putin nor Xi is a madman the way dumb Amerifats think they are.

Xi especially isn't going to risk nuclear destruction to help Russia right now. His country has an economy that's codependent with the US and other NATO countries, he can't afford to taken Putin's side.

[Thread]

100% agreed, a M.A.D. scenario between the US and China/Russia could very well lead to the end of mankind, but that also means the end of Putin and Xi. Neither Putin nor Xi is a madman the way dumb Amerifats think they are.

Xi especially isn't going to risk nuclear destruction to help Russia right now. His country has an economy that's codependent with the US and other NATO countries, he can't afford to taken Putin's side.

Please. China released COVID, killed 1 million+ Americans and Biden permitted X to skate on it.

X has already taken Putin's side. You know how we know this, Will? Putin is inside Ukraine bombing Ukraine.

I'll agree though that X doesn't want nuclear war, he's already got us by the short hairs, & owns Biden, but, Putin?...

- "Careful."

- "John Coffey" - "The Green Mile"

[Will Hunting]

Please. China released COVID, killed 1 million+ Americans and Biden permitted X to skate on it.

X has already taken Putin's side. You know how we know this, Will? Putin is inside Ukraine bombing Ukraine.

I'll agree though that X doesn't want nuclear war, he's already got us by the short hairs, & owns Biden, but, Putin?...

- "Careful."

- "John Coffey" - "The Green Mile"
:lmao now you're claiming it was BIDEN who permitted Xi to skate on lying to the world about COVID?

Reminder:
https://risksciences.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Trump-transparency-tweet-24-Jan-2020.png

[Thread]

Nobody wins a nuclear exchange.

As long as we don't exchange with Russia we win. And as long as Biden doesn't intervene in Ukraine as Putin has warned him not to Putin won't hit us. And we won't hit him regardless as to who Putin would hit.

[Thread]

:lmao now you're claiming it was BIDEN who permitted Xi to skate on lying to the world about COVID?


Yes, X is skating and Biden is allowing it.

[Will Hunting]

Yes, X is skating and Biden is allowing it.
But Trump said Xi was working very hard to contain the virus :lmao

Was Trump lying?

[Thread]

But Trump said Xi was working very hard to contain the virus :lmao

Was Trump lying?

Biden is squattin' in the White House. X killed 600,000 of the 1 million Americans while Biden squats.

Biden let X skate.

[Will Hunting]

Biden is squattin' in the White House. X killed 600,000 of the 1 million Americans while Biden squats.

Biden let X skate.
Non sequitur.

Your capitulation is duly noted.

[Thread]

Non sequitur.

Your capitulation is duly noted.

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[Millennial_Messiah]

100% agreed, a M.A.D. scenario between the US and China/Russia could very well lead to the end of mankind, but that also means the end of Putin and Xi. Neither Putin nor Xi is a madman the way dumb Amerifats think they are.

Xi especially isn't going to risk nuclear destruction to help Russia right now. His country has an economy that's codependent with the US and other NATO countries, he can't afford to taken Putin's side.

Not necessarily mankind as a whole, but the majority of the upper half of the Northern Hemisphere for sure. The trade winds would carry the nuclear materials and ash along a belt extending from west to east across the globe between the 20 and 60 degree North parallel (depending on where the nukes actually hit), rendering much of it inhospitable to humans and most animal life as well. Depending on the season (winter, early spring, late fall) it could be worse and a swifter punishment than if the nukes hit closer to summer time where the zonal trade winds are mostly prevailing as opposed to the strong westerly winds.

The deep tropics and Southern Hemisphere would largely be spared unless Australia was clobbered by nukes. Real estate in the Southern Hemisphere countries would be at an all time high and there would be mass evacuations and stampedes to colonizing South America, much of Africa, various islands and even the Australian Outback. Life would be quite different for sure but humanity would persist.



Ignoring other NATO country capabilities, the US alone has 14 Ohio-Class nuclear submarines at undisclosed locations around the world (they're extremely stealthy subs that are near impossible for other countries to track, and you can bet with what's going on the US has most of them in striking distance of Russia right now), and each one has the ability to launch 192 nuclear warheads (it only takes a few minutes to assign coordinates & launch). That's over 2,500 nuclear warheads (each one being 30x more powerful than what we dropped at Hiroshima) that Russia and China would never be able to take out in a first strike, exponentially more than Russia and China's nuclear capability in a first strike put together.

The US could wipe every major Chinese and Russian city off the map in a few minutes by pressing a few [buttons - fify]. You're a colossal idiot if you think Russia and China could ever win a nuclear war with the US, even if they were the ones who struck first.

While I hope that's true, it's definitely a given that, even if the Russian/Chinese/NK ICBM's were generally wildly inaccurate, there would be mass destruction across the USA and much of the lower 48, if not the majority of it, would be rendered inhospitable to live in for at least a generation or two. Like you said, they're up to 30x more powerful than Hiroshima these days, so it's not a situation like Hiroshima where they can just start the rebuilding process and rebuild the cities.

[Blake]

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

Neh, you're definitely not the first to capitulate here

[Will Hunting]

Not necessarily mankind as a whole, but the majority of the upper half of the Northern Hemisphere for sure. The trade winds would carry the nuclear materials and ash along a belt extending from west to east across the globe between the 20 and 60 degree North parallel (depending on where the nukes actually hit), rendering much of it inhospitable to humans and most animal life as well. Depending on the season (winter, early spring, late fall) it could be worse and a swifter punishment than if the nukes hit closer to summer time where the zonal trade winds are mostly prevailing as opposed to the strong westerly winds.

The deep tropics and Southern Hemisphere would largely be spared unless Australia was clobbered by nukes. Real estate in the Southern Hemisphere countries would be at an all time high and there would be mass evacuations and stampedes to colonizing South America, much of Africa, various islands and even the Australian Outback. Life would be quite different for sure but humanity would persist.
Nuclear winter. Go look up what that is.

Regardless, you're basically arguing Putin and Xi are irrational actors who are going to say "either let Russia occupy Ukraine or we instigate a nuclear holocaust where the entire northern hemisphere, including both of our countries, gets wiped off the map."


While I hope that's true, it's definitely a given that, even if the Russian/Chinese/NK ICBM's were generally wildly inaccurate, there would be mass destruction across the USA and much of the lower 48, if not the majority of it, would be rendered inhospitable to live in for at least a generation or two. Like you said, they're up to 30x more powerful than Hiroshima these days, so it's not a situation like Hiroshima where they can just start the rebuilding process and rebuild the cities.
When you say "you hope that's true", what about it do you think is false? It seems like you're ignoring verifiable facts and just believing Tucker Carlson's glib analysis about how Russia's military is stronger than ours because our military has pronoun diversity training while Russia hires big and strong male underwear models for its recruitment ads that get you hot and bothered.

I said the US warheads are 30x more powerful than Hiroshima. I didn't say how much power Russian/Chinese warheads have, but I seriously doubt they're as powerful as our warheads are. Also, Russia has just over 500 armed nuclear warheads on submarines. We have over 2,500 (14 x 24 x 8).

You're also ignoring how much better our global missile defense system is than Russia's. Hypothetically, if each country launched 100 nukes at the other, a lot more of our nukes would get through than their nukes would. It would still be a doomsday scenario for us, but it would be a lot worse for Russia.

[Ef-man]

Neh, you're definitely not the first to capitulate here

That is a sure sign he got his ass kick up and down the stairs! :lol

People that take meds do that.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Nuclear winter. Go look up what that is.

Regardless, you're basically arguing Putin and Xi are irrational actors who are going to say "either let Russia occupy Ukraine or we instigate a nuclear holocaust where the entire northern hemisphere, including both of our countries, gets wiped off the map."


When you say "you hope that's true", what about it do you think is false? It seems like you're ignoring verifiable facts and just believing Tucker Carlson's glib analysis about how Russia's military is stronger than ours because our military has pronoun diversity training while Russia hires big and strong male underwear models for its recruitment ads that get you hot and bothered.

I said the US warheads are 30x more powerful than Hiroshima. I didn't say how much power Russian/Chinese warheads have, but I seriously doubt they're as powerful as our warheads are. Also, Russia has just over 500 armed nuclear warheads on submarines. We have over 2,500 (14 x 24 x 8).

You're also ignoring how much better our global missile defense system is than Russia's. Hypothetically, if each country launched 100 nukes at the other, a lot more of our nukes would get through than their nukes would. It would still be a doomsday scenario for us, but it would be a lot worse for Russia.
I know exactly what the nuclear winter theory is. It's similar to the super volcano theory. It is real and would cause a temporary mini ice age across the world, but humanity would not go extinct-- they would just suffer for a few years until they adapt and conditions would gradually begin improving. No question it would take a long time for the nuclear affected areas to be repatriated by humans and other walks of life.

The pronoun diversity training thing is stupid, and there should be standards of physical toughness in the military 100%. No I don't get "hot and bothered" about Russian or Chinese men being trained on machoness, like I could care less. But I do have my doubts about the US military being in such a strong position compared to the rest of the world as compared to say, the mid 1940s. We couldn't even win in Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan. We couldn't win all of Korea for free democracy and we couldn't even save HALF of Vietnam. The US has been a colossal failure since the end of WWII. In essence the US military has gone 0.5-4.5 since WWII, with two losses in Iraq, one loss in Afghanistan and a loss in Vietnam and a stalemate in Korea. Plus losing a critical ally in Iran to the jihadist ayatollah maniacs in 1979.

The US has been pathetic in handling petty guerrilla warfare, so what makes you think they can defeat (a) the largest country by population with the 2nd largest GDP, [and] (b) the country with the largest amount of nukes and largest amount of land in the world ... paired together?

[Will Hunting]

The pronoun diversity training thing is stupid, and there should be standards of physical toughness in the military 100%. No I don't get "hot and bothered" about Russian or Chinese men being trained on machoness, like I could care less. But I do have my doubts about the US military being in such a strong position compared to the rest of the world as compared to say, the mid 1940s. We couldn't even win in Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan. We couldn't win all of Korea for free democracy and we couldn't even save HALF of Vietnam. The US has been a colossal failure since the end of WWII.
What about what I said regarding our nuclear capabilities was wrong? Be specific or fold. These are verifiable facts. Using our inability to effectively nation build as the reason for why our military is inferior to Russia's is insanely retarded though.

We occupied Afghanistan and Iraq with ease, creating a functional government in each country that could stand alone without US involvement is where we struggled, and that has nothing to do with military strength or how we would fare in a nuclear battle with Russia. Do you seriously think we couldn't have used nukes to wipe Afghanistan, Iraq, Korea of Vietnam off the map if we wanted to?

So far, Russia can't even get to the part where they successfully occupy a country they share a border with, let alone the part where they're able to successfully install a puppet government that functions independently. The pathetic part is that Russia is invading in a manner where they don't care about how much human life is lost along the way. If we invaded Iraq in the same manner - where we weren't concerned about the loss of life - we'd have been able to topple Baghdad in a few days.

[Will Hunting]

The US has been pathetic in handling petty guerrilla warfare, so what makes you think they can defeat (a) the largest country by population with the 2nd largest GDP, [and] (b) the country with the largest amount of nukes and largest amount of land in the world ... paired together?
Because:

1) A conflict with those countries would be decided by nuclear arsenal and raw military might, not the ability to take on guerilla fighters in ragtag third world shitholes.
2) Having a large amount of uninhabitable land isn't relevant
3) Most of Russia's nuclear arsenal is in reserves. It only has 1,200 - 1,500 nukes that are ready for combat, that's literally half of what we just have in terms of nukes on our submarines.

What that a serious question?

[spurraider21]

Dale getting smoked again. Just like Trump when he lost Georgia. :tu
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[spurraider21]

But Trump said Xi was working very hard to contain the virus :lmao

Was Trump lying?
and specifically praised their transparency :lmao

[Will Hunting]

The US toppled Afghanistan in a matter of weeks, kept Afghanistan under occupation for 20 fucking years, but "lost" because of neoconservative hopium about turning Afghanistan into a liberal Democracy (we even rejected the Taliban's offer to surrender early on in the war)

The USSR tried occupying Afghanistan and got its shit pushed in by the Mujahidden before ever coming close to saying the country was under Soviet control. They never received anything close to a surrender offer.

Somehow, MM thinks our performance in Afghanistan vis a vis the USSR's performance is an indictment on how we would fare in a war against them :lmao

[Will Hunting]

Honestly if the Ukraine invasion continues to go this poorly, teaming up with Putin to take on the U.S. is going to be the last thing on Xi's mind. What he'll actually start doing is eyeing vulnerable parts of Siberia/Eastern Russia if the Russian Armed Forces turn out to be a total paper tiger. Xi isn't interested in taking on the US just for the fun of it when there are much easier targets out there.

[ChumpDumper]

Honestly if the Ukraine invasion continues to go this poorly, teaming up with Putin to take on the U.S. is going to be the last thing on Xi's mind. What he'll actually start doing is eyeing vulnerable parts of Siberia/Eastern Russia if the Russian Armed Forces turn out to be a total paper tiger. Xi isn't interested in taking on the US just for the fun of it when there are much easier targets out there.

China and Russia fought a mini war over their border as late as 1969 and China remembers all the land Russia took from it when China was a basket case in the 1800s.

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Neh, you're definitely not the first to capitulate here

lmcontrollinao!!!

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Honestly if the Ukraine invasion continues to go this poorly, teaming up with Putin to take on the U.S. is going to be the last thing on Xi's mind. What he'll actually start doing is eyeing vulnerable parts of Siberia/Eastern Russia if the Russian Armed Forces turn out to be a total paper tiger. Xi isn't interested in taking on the US just for the fun of it when there are much easier targets out there.

Please.

X already took us on; whipped our ass, killed a million of us and Biden is jake with that.

[Blake]

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[RandomGuy]

The US toppled Afghanistan in a matter of weeks, kept Afghanistan under occupation for 20 fucking years, but "lost" because of neoconservative hopium about turning Afghanistan into a liberal Democracy (we even rejected the Taliban's offer to surrender early on in the war)

The USSR tried occupying Afghanistan and got its shit pushed in by the Mujahidden before ever coming close to saying the country was under Soviet control. They never received anything close to a surrender offer.

Somehow, MM thinks our performance in Afghanistan vis a vis the USSR's performance is an indictment on how we would fare in a war against them :lmao

The Russian military hasn't fought a large scale war of any kind since 1989, and their defense industry imploded when the USSR collapsed.

It is obvious their logistics net is not up to the challenge.

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Putler is the best thing that has happened to NATO and the EU. Finally got the Germans off their asses.

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The Russian military hasn't fought a large scale war of any kind since 1989, and their defense industry imploded when the USSR collapsed.

It is obvious their logistics net is not up to the challenge.

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Nod to the OP:

Putler is the best thing that has happened to NATO and the EU. Finally got the Germans off their asses.

When the Germans send their children to the slaughters instead of our children in their children's stead then you'll have something, RG. Otherwise we're out at Dover and the Germans aren't.

[koriwhat]

Well Okay then.

Can you help me buy some pastry? And...
Is there anything that you have NOT said "fkthat" to then? Its gotta be a much shorter list.

Did you say fk Thread for being a commie?

Why don't you start by acknowledging your own downfalls?... You know, like the lies and assumptions I've already pointed out. Instead you continue to troll lite.

[Millennial_Messiah]

What about what I said regarding our nuclear capabilities was wrong? Be specific or fold. These are verifiable facts. Using our inability to effectively nation build as the reason for why our military is inferior to Russia's is insanely retarded though.

We occupied Afghanistan and Iraq with ease, creating a functional government in each country that could stand alone without US involvement is where we struggled, and that has nothing to do with military strength or how we would fare in a nuclear battle with Russia. Do you seriously think we couldn't have used nukes to wipe Afghanistan, Iraq, Korea of Vietnam off the map if we wanted to?

So far, Russia can't even get to the part where they successfully occupy a country they share a border with, let alone the part where they're able to successfully install a puppet government that functions independently. The pathetic part is that Russia is invading in a manner where they don't care about how much human life is lost along the way. If we invaded Iraq in the same manner - where we weren't concerned about the loss of life - we'd have been able to topple Baghdad in a few days.
I agree 100% with this. American infantry soldiers/pilots were scared shitless they'd go to jail for harming any innocent civilians in Iraq/Afghanistan, so much to the point where U.S. military people were quitting in droves, not because they were scared of the Baathists or jihadists but of what their own governmnet would do them if they dare injure someone who hasn't provoked / attacked first. When I learned of that about a decade ago from guys who had been there firsthand, I was like holy fuck, the USA processes are pathetic and all time wussy. :lol

I mean Fuck, waaaaaaaaaay back in 1940, Germany was able to completely conquer France, seize Paris and occupy the whole country, without injuring a single French civilian, and install a puppet government within a month. And that was before nukes and high tech equipment like drones even existed. :lol


Honestly if the Ukraine invasion continues to go this poorly, teaming up with Putin to take on the U.S. is going to be the last thing on Xi's mind. What he'll actually start doing is eyeing vulnerable parts of Siberia/Eastern Russia if the Russian Armed Forces turn out to be a total paper tiger. Xi isn't interested in taking on the US just for the fun of it when there are much easier targets out there.
Why would Xi want eastern Siberia though? There's nothing but snow and rocks up there. Maybe a limited supply of natural gas if they're willing to brave the cold. Then again there is the potential for controlling the Bering Strait which would indirectly strengthen their position against the US. Seizing Taiwan would be much more profitable for China in the short term, it's a tiny country that's ethnically Han Chinese anyway and has trillions of dollars worth of microchips.

[ChumpDumper]

:wow GOD HAS SPOKEN :wow

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[Adam Lambert]

Poor old fucker is about to croak and can't bear the thought of the rest of the world not coming with him.

[ChumpDumper]

Poor old fucker is about to croak and can't bear the thought of the rest of the world not coming with him.

A huge percentage of the world's problems are caused by old white guy anger.

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A huge percentage of the world's problems are caused by old white guy anger.

Blacks of any age ain't no picnic, Dumper.

[Blake]

A huge percentage of the world's problems are caused by old white guy anger.

And the gays!

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And the gays!

And your people comin' back from south Florida without (it)...

They was selling your shit.

[Ef-man]

:wow GOD HAS SPOKEN :wow

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I thought satan had called this idiot to hell long ago.

Didn’t he predict trump would win the 2020 election? :lol

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I thought satan had called this idiot to hell long ago.

Didn’t he predict trump would win the 2020 election? :lol

Didn't he also predict that hater would bend you over? :lol

[hater]

Didn't he also predict that hater would bend you over? :lol

:lol

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I still got it!!!