When does the AT&T Center - Spurs arena deal end?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

It opened in 2002 at the start of the 2002-03 (championship) season. When does it end? 25 years? 30 years?

It was a jewel in an awful location when it first opened, now it's a mediocre site in an awful location and the team is awful all around. Fans aren't going to shell out $4/gallon in gas just to drive to pay for expensive parking to watch a perennial loser, especially after being accustomed to the 1991-2017 standard of Spurs basketball.

I'm wondering about when it will end, and this franchise can finally move on and leave the ghastly AT&T center in the ghetto east SA neighborhood, and hopefully a new stadium will be built for the team, ideally in a new city like Seattle, Vegas, Tampa, KC or Buffalo that is a much better, bigger sports market and much more team success-inelastic market for basketball and sports in general compared to SA.

[exstatic]

It opened in 2002 at the start of the 2002-03 (championship) season. When does it end? 25 years? 30 years?

It was a jewel in an awful location when it first opened, now it's a mediocre site in an awful location and the team is awful all around. Fans aren't going to shell out $4/gallon in gas just to drive to pay for expensive parking to watch a perennial loser, especially after being accustomed to the 1991-2017 standard of Spurs basketball.

I'm wondering about when it will end, and this franchise can finally move on and leave the ghastly AT&T center in the ghetto east SA neighborhood, and hopefully a new stadium will be built for the team, ideally in a new city like Seattle, Vegas, Tampa, KC or Buffalo that is a much better, bigger sports market and much more team success-inelastic market for basketball and sports in general compared to SA.

ATTs sponsorship ends this summer, and there will be some new naming rights deal. The Arena lease runs until 2032.

[koriwhat]

I have no clue why supposed fans are always pushing to move the SPURS elsewhere... I understand and feel the same sentiment towards the east side of SATX and building that arena in that shit hole though; worst mistake ever tbh. I guess the powers that be thought building that arena there would gentrify that area eventually but it hasn't and it never will.

[lefty20]

ATTs sponsorship ends this summer, and there will be some new naming rights deal. The Arena lease runs until 2032.

Pepto Bismol better get on the phone and snag those naming rights.

[TDMVPDPOY]

if ur the spurs management, u go stroke those balls of the bezos, musks...to sponsor...seriously they have enough money to rebuild a city etc...but no, they aint going to invest ina loser

[ChumpDumper]

It opened in 2002 at the start of the 2002-03 (championship) season. When does it end? 25 years? 30 years?

It was a jewel in an awful location when it first opened, now it's a mediocre site in an awful location and the team is awful all around. Fans aren't going to shell out $4/gallon in gas just to drive to pay for expensive parking to watch a perennial loser, especially after being accustomed to the 1991-2017 standard of Spurs basketball.

I'm wondering about when it will end, and this franchise can finally move on and leave the ghastly AT&T center in the ghetto east SA neighborhood, and hopefully a new stadium will be built for the team, ideally in a new city like Seattle, Vegas, Tampa, KC or Buffalo that is a much better, bigger sports market and much more team success-inelastic market for basketball and sports in general compared to SA.
Buffalo?

:lmao

[KingKev]

Buffalo?

:lmao

hahah seriously? You think the east-side of SA is rough? Downtown Buffalo is a wasteland and a few blocks from the entertainment area and you are in some rough places. A basketball franchise in Buffalo would just be a quasi Canadian team due to the fan base but what a terrible location.

I don’t think a move is imminent but as ownership changes I do think it is in the cards. Thus far it appears new partners taking on an ownership stake are chosen very selectively and care for the community and Spurs values. That could change if we continue to lose. Private equity investors have shareholders to answer to; with the Spurs franchise their gains may only come from the increase in franchise value. Eventually they look to harvest those winnings and a move/sale to another buyer is a solid exit plan.

I’ve only been to SA 4-5 times in my life but compared to other NBA cities I feel it wouldn’t be too challenging to bring the team back downtown in terms of land, infrastructure etc. Securing the funding is another discussion all together. I donmt think it happens.

[exstatic]

Seattle, KC, and Buffalo have all had NBA franchises and lost them. I wouldn’t be too eager to move a team tonany of those places.

[CGD]

There will Austin buzz before they think about any of those other locations. My hope is that scares the city enough to move the new stadium back downtown to where it should have always been in the first place.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

downtown buda probably

[Twisted_Dawg]

There will Austin buzz before they think about any of those other locations. My hope is that scares the city enough to move the new stadium back downtown to where it should have always been in the first place.

When Michael Dell buys another 31% of the team, he will start working on building a new arena in North Austin and move the Spurs. I don't have confidence in the Holt children to maintain the Spurs in San Antonio. And I'd rather have a Texas Uber billionaire buying and moving them to Austin, than that NY private capital group buying any more shares.

[Leetonidas]

There were plenty of fans who paid 4 dollars in gas to watch them play another trash team last night tbh

[Dejounte]

Yeah, they just spent $510 million on a Spurs training facility because they’re moving anytime soon.

[ChumpDumper]

When Michael Dell buys another 31% of the team, he will start working on building a new arena in North Austin and move the Spurs. I don't have confidence in the Holt children to maintain the Spurs in San Antonio. And I'd rather have a Texas Uber billionaire buying and moving them to Austin, than that NY private capital group buying any more shares.

The math is different with Austin because the city won't bend over for pro team owners the way other cities have and will. They might give some shit parcel of land like they did with the MLS team -- the old Home Depot spot on I-35 might work -- but it won't be a free ride no matter what. The suburbs would subsidize the shit out of the Spurs if they get the chance.

It's all academic if the Spurs ownership sees enough profit staying in SA. We'll see if the city or county or a suburb pony up this time.

[KingKev]

Yeah, they just spent $510 million on a Spurs training facility because they’re moving anytime soon.

That’s a very strong signal I agree but that sports park is a very valuable asset if ownership did decide to part ways with San Antonio.

[KingKev]

Vegas, Seattle or Vancouver will get the next disgruntled franchise. Our ownership group, for now, remain committed to San Antonio. The price appreciation alone makes even the worst franchise very viable.

[baseline bum]

Vegas, Seattle or Vancouver will get the next disgruntled franchise. Our ownership group, for now, remain committed to San Antonio. The price appreciation alone makes even the worst franchise very viable.

Vegas makes no sense that's a shit market with a bunch of out of town tourists and poors in town. Vancouver even less considering how little they gave a shit about the Grizzlies. I could see Seattle getting another team in the next ten years though if they bend over and build them the arena they wouldn't give the Sonics.

[K...]

I do wonder if we have reached peak sports. Sports was huge when advertisers demanded content that could not be binged and had urgency. But with Disney, hbo, paramount, and netflix,, you don't see a new bidding war for sports. Disney owns fox and espn. Sports were a crutch for those guys to get to the next level and the real star is cheap to make shows that keep you on the app.

also, it will never be cheap to build in a city again, and even the good suburbs are full now. Baseball nearly died this year. Coronvirus may be skewing things, but in person viewing isn't going to expand for most mature teams. The greed of the league will prevent them from decreasing games to keep novelty. I dont know if politicians can be blackmailed anymore given the extreme polarization.

[offset formation]

It opened in 2002 at the start of the 2002-03 (championship) season. When does it end? 25 years? 30 years?

It was a jewel in an awful location when it first opened, now it's a mediocre site in an awful location and the team is awful all around. Fans aren't going to shell out $4/gallon in gas just to drive to pay for expensive parking to watch a perennial loser, especially after being accustomed to the 1991-2017 standard of Spurs basketball.

I'm wondering about when it will end, and this franchise can finally move on and leave the ghastly AT&T center in the ghetto east SA neighborhood, and hopefully a new stadium will be built for the team, ideally in a new city like Seattle, Vegas, Tampa, KC or Buffalo that is a much better, bigger sports market and much more team success-inelastic market for basketball and sports in general compared to SA.

Your schtick is old and tiresome.

[MannyIsGod]

I have no clue why supposed fans are always pushing to move the SPURS elsewhere... I understand and feel the same sentiment towards the east side of SATX and building that arena in that shit hole though; worst mistake ever tbh. I guess the powers that be thought building that arena there would gentrify that area eventually but it hasn't and it never will.

I know you're both racist and dumb as a sack of rocks, but if you actually look at the history of home values in the eastside neighborhoods between Downtown and the AT&T center you'll see that the property values have absolutely exploded in that area. I don't even live in San Antonio anymore but I know this.

https://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/news/2020/12/17/these-neighborhoods-saw-home-values-double.html
https://www.sacurrent.com/sanantonio/san-antonios-east-side-among-top-10-fastest-gentrifying-neighborhoods-in-the-us/Content?oid=21090333

Then again, I doubt a loser like you is actually in the market to buy a home so why would you know right?

[KingKev]

Vegas makes no sense that's a shit market with a bunch of out of town tourists and poors in town. Vancouver even less considering how little they gave a shit about the Grizzlies. I could see Seattle getting another team in the next ten years though if they bend over and build them the arena they wouldn't give the Sonics.

Vancouver 20 years ago compared to today is drastically different. It is an insanely wealthy city that has emerged on the world map and they are basketball crazy.

[Dex]

I have no clue why supposed fans are always pushing to move the SPURS elsewhere... I understand and feel the same sentiment towards the east side of SATX and building that arena in that shit hole though; worst mistake ever tbh. I guess the powers that be thought building that arena there would gentrify that area eventually but it hasn't and it never will.

No real fan would want their team moved AWAY from their city...unless maybe they live in Seattle or whatever and want to be able to see the Spurs play home games there. Anybody else is just trolling around here.

I don't care how small market we are, the Spurs are far down on the list of teams to be relocated. You don't just move one of the most consistently successful franchises in the NBA and one who has won the fifth most NBA championships.

They'll move a team like Minessota or Memphis or Sacramento before they move the San Antonio Spurs...but even more likely is that the NBA will just expand by two teams, add them to Seattle and Vegas and move Memphis or the Pels into the East.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Vegas makes no sense that's a shit market with a bunch of out of town tourists and poors in town. Vancouver even less considering how little they gave a shit about the Grizzlies. I could see Seattle getting another team in the next ten years though if they bend over and build them the arena they wouldn't give the Sonics.

Vegas seems to have this attraction from owners, though, even though you're right, the residents by and large make San Antones look pretty wealthy. NFL, NHL both set up shop there recently. Wouldn't surprise me to see the NBA venture that way, too.

The way the NBA likes to prop up the courtside celebrities in attendance, I could see the NBA team there selling a lot of courtside season tickets to the casinos to hand out, or sell to the high rollers.

[baseline bum]

Vegas seems to have this attraction from owners, though, even though you're right, the residents by and large make San Antones look pretty wealthy. NFL, NHL both set up shop there recently. Wouldn't surprise me to see the NBA venture that way, too.

The way the NBA likes to prop up the courtside celebrities in attendance, I could see the NBA team there selling a lot of courtside season tickets to the casinos to hand out, or sell to the high rollers.

Didn't all the shit that happened around the 2007 All Star Game also really really sour the NBA on Las Vegas?

[K...]

I changed my mind. If Manu is shilling spurs NFTs the team deserves las vegas. The pathetic money baiting is only going to get worse if we stay tank i'm afraid.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Didn't all the shit that happened around the 2007 All Star Game also really really sour the NBA on Las Vegas?

With the world going into the sh!tter, I wouldn't be surprised if Vegas becomes the next U.S. Capital.

[koriwhat]

I know you're both racist and dumb as a sack of rocks, but if you actually look at the history of home values in the eastside neighborhoods between Downtown and the AT&T center you'll see that the property values have absolutely exploded in that area. I don't even live in San Antonio anymore but I know this.

https://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/news/2020/12/17/these-neighborhoods-saw-home-values-double.html
https://www.sacurrent.com/sanantonio/san-antonios-east-side-among-top-10-fastest-gentrifying-neighborhoods-in-the-us/Content?oid=21090333

Then again, I doubt a loser like you is actually in the market to buy a home so why would you know right?

You know nothing bro. You're a fucking idiot. Go back to sucking Biden's KKK loving dick you puto! :tu


Btw ALL home values have exploded just like the shit house I grew up in. Whats your point? You think someone worth a fuck wants to live in a shack in the crime ridden east side because of muh home values exploding? :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

It opened in 2002 at the start of the 2002-03 (championship) season. When does it end? 25 years? 30 years?

It was a jewel in an awful location when it first opened, now it's a mediocre site in an awful location and the team is awful all around. Fans aren't going to shell out $4/gallon in gas just to drive to pay for expensive parking to watch a perennial loser, especially after being accustomed to the 1991-2017 standard of Spurs basketball.

I'm wondering about when it will end, and this franchise can finally move on and leave the ghastly AT&T center in the ghetto east SA neighborhood, and hopefully a new stadium will be built for the team, ideally in a new city like Seattle, Vegas, Tampa, KC or Buffalo that is a much better, bigger sports market and much more team success-inelastic market for basketball and sports in general compared to SA.

Buffal:lol

Buffalo Bills’ billionaire owner set to get $1B in public funds for new stadium

Bills Owner Terry Pegula — a fracking mogul worth more than $7 billion — had threatened to move the team from Buffalo if he didn’t get public funding to build a new stadium...

...He let it be known it made little financial sense to spend $1 billion himself on a stadium in Buffalo because it is just too small a market, with a metropolitan area of a little more than a million people.

https://nypost.com/2022/03/11/buffalo-bills-billionaire-owner-set-to-get-1b-in-public-funds-for-new-stadium/

:lmao"ideally":lmao

It's not even going to have a roof.:rollin

[KingKev]

Buffal:lol

Buffalo Bills’ billionaire owner set to get $1B in public funds for new stadium

Bills Owner Terry Pegula — a fracking mogul worth more than $7 billion — had threatened to move the team from Buffalo if he didn’t get public funding to build a new stadium...

...He let it be known it made little financial sense to spend $1 billion himself on a stadium in Buffalo because it is just too small a market, with a metropolitan area of a little more than a million people.

https://nypost.com/2022/03/11/buffalo-bills-billionaire-owner-set-to-get-1b-in-public-funds-for-new-stadium/

:lmao"ideally":lmao

It's not even going to have a roof.:rollin

Yeah I don’t think ppl realize just how shitty Buffalo and the surrounding area is (US side).

[MannyIsGod]

You know nothing bro. You're a fucking idiot. Go back to sucking Biden's KKK loving dick you puto! :tu


Btw ALL home values have exploded just like the shit house I grew up in. Whats your point? You think someone worth a fuck wants to live in a shack in the crime ridden east side because of muh home values exploding? :lmao

No, not all home values have exploded. Yes, most homes have appreciated. But we're not talking about a small rise, we're talking about a gigantic increase. Have you not seen the amount of renovated homes in that area? Do you not realize that areas that are being gentrified are almost always high crime. You don't gentrify high value neighborhoods with no crime. Do you even know what the word gentrify means? Don't bother answering, we both know you have no idea what you're talking about. Just worry about renewing your lease in whatever shit San Antonio apartment complex you live in.

[koriwhat]

No, not all home values have exploded. Yes, most homes have appreciated. But we're not talking about a small rise, we're talking about a gigantic increase. Have you not seen the amount of renovated homes in that area? Do you not realize that areas that are being gentrified are almost always high crime. You don't gentrify high value neighborhoods with no crime. Do you even know what the word gentrify means? Don't bother answering, we both know you have no idea what you're talking about. Just worry about renewing your lease in whatever shit San Antonio apartment complex you live in.

LMAO Go fuck yourself bro. :tu

Btw you and CumDumpster deserve each other. :lmao