General College Football discussion

[FrostKing]

CHOKE

What a slow operating offense by Harbaugh. Where's his Kaepernick.

[benefactor]

Georgia/OSU is a war. Still think Georgia pulls it out in the end

[MultiTroll]

Yeah that was targeting but it was over tbh
No the targeting gives Michigan an automatic 1st down with 25 seconds left.
Robbed them of a chance.
Watch KC Chiefs vs Buffalo Bills last years playoffs?
No, it wasn't over.

Are the replay riggin peoples identities revealed or is that all hush hush?

[MultiTroll]

2 great games with total suck ass final plays.

[benefactor]

Man I hope the final is as good as these two games were. Best playoff ever so far.

[pgardn]

Kirby Smart:

“Im so proud of all these kids.” No problem with this
”The lack of respect they have received all year but they still came through.” WTF is he talking about?

Is this more dumbass coach pseudo “us against the world” nonsense or did something really happen whereby Georgia was not respected as a college football team? Is he upset they fell out of the #1 spot for like a week or what? I don’t get it…

[MultiTroll]

Is this more dumbass coach pseudo “us against the world” nonsense
Yes.

[Blake]

gary patterson built tcu team........patterson wouldve been in championship

Yeah he built it but why couldn't he do anything with it last year?

[playblair]

Yeah he built it but why couldn't he do anything with it last year?
he does it every 4 years when his rectruits become seniors........this year wouldve been the 4th he wouldve had this type of season.......

[Blake]

he does it every 4 years when his rectruits become seniors........this year wouldve been the 4th he wouldve had this type of season.......

Aww sucks for Patterson that TCU didn't see the trend like you did. Great for Sonny

[MultiTroll]

Has the ruling the Michigan receiver caught the ball at the half yard line vs TD been explained?

[Mark Celibate]

Kirby Smart:

“Im so proud of all these kids.” No problem with this
”The lack of respect they have received all year but they still came through.” WTF is he talking about?

Is this more dumbass coach pseudo “us against the world” nonsense or did something really happen whereby Georgia was not respected as a college football team? Is he upset they fell out of the #1 spot for like a week or what? I don’t get it…

Lol I missed that…they’ve been the consensus favorite all year. He said some other weird things in the postgame; like criticizing his QB to the media after they put up 42 or when he said “I’m not sure if we’re ready for TCU” immediately after a nail biting win when most coaches would be thrilled they moved on. Idk if he’s trying to force this “Saban schtick” of always being grumpy to keep the edge or if he’s just that obtuse

[benefactor]

Lol I missed that…they’ve been the consensus favorite all year. He said some other weird things in the postgame; like criticizing his QB to the media after they put up 42 or when he said “I’m not sure if we’re ready for TCU” immediately after a nail biting win when most coaches would be thrilled they moved on. Idk if he’s trying to force this “Saban schtick” of always being grumpy to keep the edge or if he’s just that obtuse
Smart's try hard shtick is tiresome. You guys are basically college football royalty. Just stop.

[pgardn]

Man I hope the final is as good as these two games were. Best playoff ever so far.

Now I am glad it was 4 teams.
We had two really fun games.
Hopefully the last one will be as interesting.

[Blake]

I'm gonna guess that it's not and Georgia takes them to the wood shed. Hope I'm wrong

[FrostKing]

Atlanta does it again...

[DMX7]

gary patterson built tcu team........patterson wouldve been in championship

TCU hasn't won yet. Georgia is probably going to be a whole different beast.

[DMX7]

Congrats to Tulane. What a hell of a season for the Green Wave. From 2 wins last season to 12 wins this seasons.

[lebomb]

Congrats to Tulane. What a hell of a season for the Green Wave. From 2 wins last season to 12 wins this seasons.


Crazy awesome game!!! Tulane never led until 8 seconds left 46-45. :claw

[rjv]

lincoln riley needs to find a DC. that was a horrific meltdown but i loved it. great win for the green wave!

[FrostKing]

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[FrostKing]

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[FrostKing]

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Spread is Dawgs by 13.5

I'd buy a point and call it a night

[MultiTroll]

Dawgs easy cash in 1st half.

[DMX7]

Looks like Georgia could sleepwalk to the title now.

[FrostKing]

Lol @ Michigan

[FrostKing]

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[FrostKing]

Remember when many argued OSU should have moved up to #3. Would have likely resulted in better Finale

[DMX7]

Remember when many argued OSU should have moved up to #3. Would have likely resulted in better Finale

I was one of them. This is probably going to be one of the lowest TV rated title games ever.

[lefty20]

TCU should've just refused to come out for the 2nd half. Just send a ball boy out with a white hanky.

[FrostKing]

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[FrostKing]

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[benefactor]

Getting the backup put in on you in a championship game is straight humiliation

[DMX7]

Getting the backup put in on you in a championship game is straight humiliation

With almost a whole quarter to play... I've been saying for a while that the Big XII was just god awful this year. TCU beating Michigan was a minor miracle but they had no chance against Georgia.

[DMX7]

kirk herbstreit just called TCU "K-state"... think it was just a slip of tongue though.

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/mbdgTQg/IMG-20230109-200240.jpg

[MultiTroll]

Getting the backup put in on you in a championship game is straight humiliation
Short memory porky.
Halftime 2017.

Jalen Hurts relives being benched for Tua Tagovailoa in national title game (saturdaydownsouth.com) (https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/alabama-football/jalen-hurts-relives-being-benched-for-tua-tagovailoa-in-national-title-game/)

[FrostKing]

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[FrostKing]

Short memory porky.
Halftime 2017.

Jalen Hurts relives being benched for Tua Tagovailoa in national title game (saturdaydownsouth.com) (https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/alabama-football/jalen-hurts-relives-being-benched-for-tua-tagovailoa-in-national-title-game/)
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[Dick Jones]

Short memory porky.
Halftime 2017.

Jalen Hurts relives being benched for Tua Tagovailoa in national title game (saturdaydownsouth.com) (https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/alabama-football/jalen-hurts-relives-being-benched-for-tua-tagovailoa-in-national-title-game/)
I’m pretty sure Georgia was humiliated by the way that game ended.

[Monostradamus]

The wild thing is TCU was maybe the 3rd most talented team in the Big 12, probably 4th or 5th, but the top of that conference is overrun with entitled lazy players being coached by weak willed cucks.

[benefactor]

Short memory porky.
Halftime 2017.

Jalen Hurts relives being benched for Tua Tagovailoa in national title game (saturdaydownsouth.com) (https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/alabama-football/jalen-hurts-relives-being-benched-for-tua-tagovailoa-in-national-title-game/)
What?:lol

[FrostKing]

Not sure where to rank these dominant Georgia Bulldawgs. 29-1 run

If my criteria is the previous 3 teams to go Back2Back. Then I don't think they compare offensively to the Trojans or Bama.

2021/22 Bulldawgs vs 94/95 Nebraska

[MultiTroll]

Not sure where to rank these dominant Georgia Bulldawgs. 29-1 run

If my criteria is the previous 3 teams to go Back2Back. Then I don't think they compare offensively to the Trojans or Bama.

2021/22 Bulldawgs vs 94/95 Nebraska
Bottom line they won so major props to them.

But the pooched FG miss by Ohio State that allowed GA to escape does not put them anywhere near godlike status imo.

[pgardn]

Hindsight is so ridiculously easy.
It so clear to me now...

That being said what an awful game...

[pgardn]

The wild thing is TCU was maybe the 3rd most talented team in the Big 12, probably 4th or 5th, but the top of that conference is overrun with entitled lazy players being coached by weak willed cucks.

TCU had a bunch of players that actually had played significant time. They were, on the whole, a veteran college team. Coaches know that kids who are talented, but not uber talented, can be very valuable with a significant amount of time under their belt. Also, TCU escaped a number of close calls in the Big 12 by not giving up. They were ready for the back and forth.
So they found out what it feels like to play a super talented team with a QB who seems to have a been in college for like 8 years. Georgia QB was fantastic. In college.

And TCU was badly outcoached imo. Georgia was a better team anyway but this just made it a horrible matchup. No one called this.

[FkLA]

I really don't think the difference is THAT drastic. TCU just played a terrible game and Georgia was out for blood after the letdown against Ohio St. Ohio St put a scare on Georgia, Michigan beat Ohio St, TCU beat Michigan. Yet it looked like TCU didn't even belong on the field yesterday. The 14 point line by Vegas is closer to reality imo.

Even Cincinnati didn't look that bad against Alabama in the semis last year.

[pgardn]

Bottom line they won so major props to them.

But the pooched FG miss by Ohio State that allowed GA to escape does not put them anywhere near godlike status imo.

Just a better matchup.
But honestly the best way to say Ohio St. even belonged was AFTER they were picked and played.
Michigan destroyed them in a 2nd half in Columbus that was absolutely embarrassing.
So now it looks like everyone should laugh at Michigan and TCU? Watch the 2nd half of OSU v. Michigan. Curb stomping 4th quarter embarrassment.
I think everyone wanted to see a competitive game so TCU is easy to kick.

So.
Georgia was clearly the best team throughout the year.
A pretty clear outcome. The best team won. And not just the last game of the year.

[benefactor]

I really don't think the difference is THAT drastic. TCU just played a terrible game and Georgia was out for blood after the letdown against Ohio St. Ohio St put a scare on Georgia, Michigan beat Ohio St, TCU beat Michigan. Yet it looked like TCU didn't even belong on the field yesterday. The 14 point line by Vegas is closer to reality imo.

Even Cincinnati didn't look that bad against Alabama in the semis last year.
Yeah I think if they played again it would be closer. It's just hard to out talent a team like Georgia when you are TCU. TCU is a scrappy team and it carried them to this game...and of course it helps having a NFL WR to throw the ball to. But Georgia is just a machine right now.

[FrostKing]

TCU played poorly though let's not sugarcoat.

2 turnovers in the 1st Half. Defensively they looked lost even early on. Didn't even come close to forcing a turnover.

[FrostKing]

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Preseason Vegas 6.5 wins

ACC #1 seed

[DMX7]

TCU played poorly though let's not sugarcoat.

2 turnovers in the 1st Half. Defensively they looked lost even early on. Didn't even come close to forcing a turnover.

The Big XII was really bad this year... let's not sugarcoat that either. I realize TCU beat Michigan but let's just say I wouldn't bet on them doing it again.

[FrostKing]

The Big XII was really bad this year... let's not sugarcoat that either. I realize TCU beat Michigan but let's just say I wouldn't bet on them doing it again.
I was just listening to X gon give it X

Telecast showed TCU Quarterback became turnover hungry lately

Big 12 weakness? Eh. Expectations weren't high. They deserved to be there and beat Michigan. You play whom is infront of you.

[DMX7]

I was just listening to X gon give it X

Telecast showed TCU Quarterback became turnover hungry lately

Big 12 weakness? Eh. Expectations weren't high. They deserved to be there and beat Michigan. You play whom is infront of you.

They had a hell of a season. I won't take that away for them -- just saying Big XII was straight up bad this year.

[lebomb]

I remember when UTSA started their football program a bit over 10yrs ago. There was a TON of people saying the Runners would suck at football for 50yrs and wouldnt be in an FBS Div I conference for at least another 10-20yrs. Well, I'm proud of my Roadrunners and how quickly they have become a top #25 program, winning their conference back to back while running the CUSA table this year.

210................. Birds Up!!!

[Blake]

I remember when UTSA started their football program a bit over 10yrs ago. There was a TON of people saying the Runners would suck at football for 50yrs and wouldnt be in an FBS Div I conference for at least another 10-20yrs. Well, I'm proud of my Roadrunners and how quickly they have become a top #25 program, winning their conference back to back while running the CUSA table this year.

210................. Birds Up!!!

Now that the playoffs are expanding, would you rather the runners stay in that conference or would you rather them move up to a higher conference and be a middle of the pack team most every year?

[lebomb]

Now that the playoffs are expanding, would you rather the runners stay in that conference or would you rather them move up to a higher conference and be a middle of the pack team most every year?

I’m good with the AAC. We have to play better teams, makes your program better.

[pgardn]

Whoa...
UTSA playing Houston and AT TENNESSE 2023
Win both those games.

[FkLA]

Now that the playoffs are expanding, would you rather the runners stay in that conference or would you rather them move up to a higher conference and be a middle of the pack team most every year?

P5 should still be the long term goal.

Love the current momentum but I don't think the city will get fully behind them (50k+ at the Dome every game) until that happens. And with the biggest brands leaving the Big 12 and Pac 12 I don't see why UTSA wouldn't eventually be able to compete in either of those conferences. You can't turn down the money/exposure a P5 conference would provide, imo.

[FrostKing]

Sounds like San Diego State. Should be golden catch for the Pac with the LA boys leaving the market

Just opened new stadium and I visited. Already good in Bball.

[lebomb]

P5 should still be the long term goal.



Long term is correct. Right now, lets compete in the AAC and win several conference championships if we can. That includes all sports, not just football. Basketball and Volleyball is a big concern. We haven't been competitive in either in a loooooooong time.

[Blake]

P5 should still be the long term goal.

Love the current momentum but I don't think the city will get fully behind them (50k+ at the Dome every game) until that happens. And with the biggest brands leaving the Big 12 and Pac 12 I don't see why UTSA wouldn't eventually be able to compete in either of those conferences. You can't turn down the money/exposure a P5 conference would provide, imo.

Of course the school wouldn't turn down money and exposure but would you as a fan be ok with being a middle to lower level team that on a good year gets 8 wins vs staying where you are getting 10 wins

.... And maybe a better shot at the playoff

[FkLA]

Long term is correct. Right now, lets compete in the AAC and win several conference championships if we can. That includes all sports, not just football. Basketball and Volleyball is a big concern. We haven't been competitive in either in a loooooooong time.

For sure. I'm pumped to be joining the AAC. It wasn't that long ago that that was my dream conference for us. But the program has grown so much quicker than I imagined that one has to at least have P5 in the back of the mind at this point.

I think they fire Henson by the end of the season at the latest. Then start working on basketball facilities soon after. Baseball is already good just need the facilities to catch up.


Of course the school wouldn't turn down money and exposure but would you as a fan be ok with being a middle to lower level team that on a good year gets 8 wins vs staying where you are getting 10 wins

.... And maybe a better shot at the playoff

It'll be interesting to see how UCF does in the Big 12. They're the blueprint. There's also TCU and Utah who were in the MWC like a decade ago. I'd rather have some runs like they have as P5 members than dominate the AAC yearly (which isn't even a guarantee).

If the playoff format was set in stone the AAC might be an easier path but who knows if after a few blowouts + a 13th ranked blueblood gets left out they kick the G5s out.

[rjv]

For sure. I'm pumped to be joining the AAC. It wasn't that long ago that that was my dream conference for us. But the program has grown so much quicker than I imagined that one has to at least have P5 in the back of the mind at this point.

I think they fire Henson by the end of the season at the latest. Then start working on basketball facilities soon after. Baseball is already good just need the facilities to catch up.



It'll be interesting to see how UCF does in the Big 12. They're the blueprint. There's also TCU and Utah who were in the MWC like a decade ago. I'd rather have some runs like they have as P5 members than dominate the AAC yearly (which isn't even a guarantee).

If the playoff format was set in stone the AAC might be an easier path but who knows if after a few blowouts + a 13th ranked blueblood gets left out they kick the G5s out.

absolutely a must. i thought i had seen a UTSA vision plan a while ago that included the construction of a new basketball facility. do you know anything about that?

[FkLA]

absolutely a must. i thought i had seen a UTSA vision plan a while ago that included the construction of a new basketball facility. do you know anything about that?

It's still part of the plan. Imo I think it's new head coach after this season, break ground on a new basketball practice facility within the next year or two, and then start thinking about a new arena after that.

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/WxMWxgT/Screenshot-20230120-112338-Chrome.jpg

:lol Miami & Florida

Tens of Millions to a high school boy?

[ChumpDumper]

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:lol Miami & Florida

Tens of Millions to a high school boy?

How much does Florida State pay?

[Blake]

https://i.ibb.co/WxMWxgT/Screenshot-20230120-112338-Chrome.jpg

:lol Miami & Florida

Tens of Millions to a high school boy?

The new world of wide open college free agency with no salary caps

[benefactor]

Texas picks up transfer receiver Adonai Mitchell from Georgia. Big time get.

[FkLA]

https://i.ibb.co/WxMWxgT/Screenshot-20230120-112338-Chrome.jpg

:lol Miami & Florida

Tens of Millions to a high school boy?

The top, established QBs are probably worth that but that seems pretty ridiculous for a HS QB who wasn't even the top ranked guy in his class. There's no guarantee he evens wins the starting job at a top program.

[pgardn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcU3_Cok3CI



Saw this on an ATM site. Some Aggies have a sense of humor.

[Blake]

Lmao

[pgardn]

SEC scheduling possibility:

Rumored that Texas will have ATM, Arky, and OU as three permanent games every year.
Interesting that this is not a pod that is round robin. For example Arky will not play OU and either will ATM necessarily.

Then the 6 other games will come from a group of the remaining 12 teams. But it will be one group of six, and then the next group of six every year.
they call it the 3-6/6 model. Nine conference games every year.

In any event its all very interesting. I think there is a lot of room for creativity. And personally I would love 3 games against ATM, ARky, and OU every year.
Also this may require a computer program to get it all straight in not only picking each teams permanent rival, but each team's unique group of alternating 6.
Can anyone write this program so I can play with it? Even if it does not come to fruition it would be a lot of fun.

I also would lobby that we get Texas Tech as a permanent out of conference game. I think they hate us as much as ATM, ARky and OU do.
Maybe ATM would do the same, but I doubt it. It would be too scary. Tortillas and such...

[Blake]

Tech Ad said the horns promised games vs tech for the next ten years but backed out. Honestly, idgaf either way. Aggy was more fun to play against tbh. Their anger was so real

[pgardn]

Tech Ad said the horns promised games vs tech for the next ten years but backed out. Honestly, idgaf either way. Aggy was more fun to play against tbh. Their anger was so real

Thats stupid on UTs part then.
That is a game that draws.
I guess UT decided to powder puff the 3 out of conference games. The SEC way.
The more "hate" in the game the better. Love that we might get Arky every year, they hate us in a huge pig way.
4 teams that really despise you is pretty good for such a bad UT team the last (what seems like a) century.

And...
If any UT fan is caught chanting "SEC" they should be castrated and beheaded on site.
Need to ask my ATM friends if chanting is a requisite for getting in. If so, fk em, we are in anyway.

[rjv]

I also would lobby that we get Texas Tech as a permanent out of conference game. I think they hate us as much as ATM, ARky and OU do.
Maybe ATM would do the same, but I doubt it. It would be too scary. Tortillas and such...

goal posts

[pgardn]

goal posts

Oh yeah. The skewering attempt.
They absolutely hate ATM...

But as far as playing them, ATM considers them... no.
And apparently so does UT. Which imo is sad. Because they do not like UT, at all. Especially after Beard.

And now way back in history I read this:



During a 1973 game against Texas A&M, Rice’s marching band made fun of several Aggie traditions. The band marched out to the field in a military-style goose-step and turned the Aggie War Hymn into "March of the Wooden Soldiers.” The band also made fun of Texas A&M’s school mascot, the dog Reveille, by forming a fire hydrant. An angry group of Texas A&M students gathered outside Rice’s stadium, and the band eventually had to be transported out via food service trucks. The performance has since been dubbed “The Halftime of Infamy.”


Good times as long as no one got hurt.

And..... Damn what a great halftime band!



During a halftime game against UT-Austin’s Longhorns in 2007, the MOB mocked some UT football players' run-ins with the law. The MOB’s narrator said: "In the two years since the MOB last visited Austin, your team's demeanor — and misdemeanor — has changed.” The narrator added that the game’s program included “Mack Brown's wrist-slap Top 10 and a photo guide to the next episode of America's Most Wanted." Meanwhile, band members carrying cardboard police cars chased others dressed as UT-Austin football players.

[rjv]

Oh yeah. The skewering attempt.
They absolutely hate ATM...

But as far as playing them, ATM considers them... no.
And apparently so does UT. Which imo is sad. Because they do not like UT, at all. Especially after Beard.

And now way back in history I read this:



During a 1973 game against Texas A&M, Rice’s marching band made fun of several Aggie traditions. The band marched out to the field in a military-style goose-step and turned the Aggie War Hymn into "March of the Wooden Soldiers.” The band also made fun of Texas A&M’s school mascot, the dog Reveille, by forming a fire hydrant. An angry group of Texas A&M students gathered outside Rice’s stadium, and the band eventually had to be transported out via food service trucks. The performance has since been dubbed “The Halftime of Infamy.”


Good times as long as no one got hurt.

And..... Damn what a great halftime band!



During a halftime game against UT-Austin’s Longhorns in 2007, the MOB mocked some UT football players' run-ins with the law. The MOB’s narrator said: "In the two years since the MOB last visited Austin, your team's demeanor — and misdemeanor — has changed.” The narrator added that the game’s program included “Mack Brown's wrist-slap Top 10 and a photo guide to the next episode of America's Most Wanted." Meanwhile, band members carrying cardboard police cars chased others dressed as UT-Austin football players.



yeah, it was a solid rivalry and genuine dislike. not to mention that the pirate owned the aggies.

[pgardn]

yeah, it was a solid rivalry and genuine dislike. not to mention that the pirate owned the aggies.

Oh forgot that as well.
The dropped interception by Blake Gideon in TT and Crabtree scoring to beat us...

I am so sad I did not get to see The Mob from Rice.

[rjv]

Oh forgot that as well.
The dropped interception by Blake Gideon in TT and Crabtree scoring to beat us...

I am so sad I did not get to see The Mob from Rice.

They were great. They once made a fire hydrant in 'honor' of Reveille and did a goose step march to spite the corps of cadets (classic). of course, a bunch of fascist ags threatened to assault them on a couple of occasions and the band members had to be carefully led out of the stadium. good times.

[Blake]

goal posts

:lol

[pgardn]

The SEC now considering an 8 game conference schedule with 4 out of conference puffball games.
This is pure shit. UT and Oklahoma were invited to make good competition almost every week for teams.
UT was thought to get the pleasure of playing OU, Aggie and Arky EVERY year along with good games with other SEC foes.

Now there is pushing back because everyone in the SEC wants to make a bowl game. So take an automatic 4 wins and go from there?
What a bunch of chicken shits... And ATM wants nothing to do with playing us every year? Only OU wants that.
Pitiful scheduling move if it happens. This almost the same reasoning the SEC and ATm never wanted to play UT in a bowl game.
Lets get out of the season looking good with the record and make some money? Lets get all the teams we can into the playoffs? Pure Bullshit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJf7Cu4x7gw

I normally dont agree with this guy on everything but the main points are right on.

[pgardn]

And disagree with his point to google the out of conference schedule.
Here is ATMs first year in the SEC

SMU
South Carolina State
Louisiana Tech
Sam Houston State

This is with perhaps the best player to ever play college football, Johnny Manziel.

[GAustex]

It’s for the best
UT can’t handle Iowa State
There is no way they can run a SEC gauntlet

[pgardn]

It’s for the best
UT can’t handle Iowa State
There is no way they can run a SEC gauntlet

Fk that thought.
If we cant then we lose.
Tough luck. We should not have entered. We entered to get better players to recruit. We have finally done that. Lets see how it plays out.
Good teams every week is good viewing. Fk the record. If we are good enough we will have a good record.

[pgardn]

SEC more worried about teams individual records than quality of games.
They went to 8 conference games for 2024 it appears.
If it stays this way, OU is the only team we will play every year. NO atm, arky every year. Just sad stuff.

What a chicken shit conference.
We will recruit better players, and play a crap schedule possibly unless we dont choose 3 or 4 teams to slaughter every year as out of conference games.
the two biggest reasons to enter this conference was to get better recruits AND to play better teams.

[Blake]

And disagree with his point to google the out of conference schedule.
Here is ATMs first year in the SEC

SMU
South Carolina State
Louisiana Tech
Sam Houston State

This is with perhaps the best player to ever play college football, Johnny Manziel.

I thought they had new rules in place making at least a few of those OOC games be from power 5 conferences

[pgardn]

I thought they had new rules in place making at least a few of those OOC games be from power 5 conferences

they may indeed. But that was ATMs 4 powerful opponents out of conf FIRST year in the conference they craved to play in because of "better" competition.

Everyone is now likely lining up Washington St. for a game.... or some other downtrodden Power 5 teams before they go away because no "Power" conference wants them.
Hell, I dont even know what a power conference will be two years from now. I guess its too much to ask to play OU, ATM, and Arky every year and mix in 6 one year and the other six SEC the following year. Btw I personally would love to have TT every year as well. Thats another team that loved to beat us. these are the best types of games imo.

The unfettered joy TT had beating up ATM while Leach was there, ya gotta miss that.

Btw we are supposed to play Michigan home and home coming up in a bit. I hope we keep that.

[pgardn]

What a fantastic schedule for Texas fans who want to watch good teams.
Georgia, Florida, ATm, OU, Arky, at Michigan .... UTSA
Now all the SEC needs to do is make sure Texas plays ATM, OU, and Arky every year and make a real conference schedule of at least 9 games.

LSU has an incredible schedule. Absolutely huge for their fans. USC and UCLA out of conference. And they play Georgia AND Alabama in the same year. oh yes the minor teams... ATm.

And think of the teams in the SEC that thought the partying in College Station was rather dull and NOW... you get to come to Austin to see your team play? "wtf just happened, we thought Texas was all about the Dixie Chicken..."

[DesignatedT]

And disagree with his point to google the out of conference schedule.
Here is ATMs first year in the SEC

SMU
South Carolina State
Louisiana Tech
Sam Houston State

This is with perhaps the best player to ever play college football, Johnny Manziel.

A&M had to scramble to find opponents for their first couple seasons in the SEC. You can't just call up whomever and say "lets play next year". It doesn't work that way as schedules/opponents are typically ironed out 5-10 years in advance. Not to mention that A&M wanted to keep playing Texas and y'all ran away from that game at the time. A&M had to move around/cancel/add new games in a short order after they moved conferences. Since that time they have had non-conference games/home and homes with Arizona State, UCLA, Clemson, Miami, and this year Notre Dame. We have not avoided tough out of conference opponents and most of the SEC doesn't. Look in your own conference (Baylor) if you want to see that.


SEC more worried about teams individual records than quality of games.
They went to 8 conference games for 2024 it appears.
If it stays this way, OU is the only team we will play every year. NO atm, arky every year. Just sad stuff.

What a chicken shit conference.
We will recruit better players, and play a crap schedule possibly unless we dont choose 3 or 4 teams to slaughter every year as out of conference games.
the two biggest reasons to enter this conference was to get better recruits AND to play better teams.

The SEC will go to 9 games eventually. They are staying at 8 games for the first season but it isn't a long term solution. This is primarily due to money/tv contracts (which is what all this is about). The SEC wants to see ESPN up the tv contracts by going to nine conference games and they need more time to iron this out.


they may indeed. But that was ATMs 4 powerful opponents out of conf FIRST year in the conference they craved to play in because of "better" competition.

Everyone is now likely lining up Washington St. for a game.... or some other downtrodden Power 5 teams before they go away because no "Power" conference wants them.
Hell, I dont even know what a power conference will be two years from now. I guess its too much to ask to play OU, ATM, and Arky every year and mix in 6 one year and the other six SEC the following year. Btw I personally would love to have TT every year as well. Thats another team that loved to beat us. these are the best types of games imo.

The unfettered joy TT had beating up ATM while Leach was there, ya gotta miss that.

Btw we are supposed to play Michigan home and home coming up in a bit. I hope we keep that.

A&M didn't leave because they craved to play in a conference with better competition. They left to get away from the dictatorship that was the university of texas who created an unlevel playing field that benefitted themselves over the rest of the conference. Now they are coming into the SEC and that is fine... well gladly play again; however, Texas isn't calling the shots anymore like they used to.

[pgardn]

Deputy commissioner of the Big 12:

"The choice of Texas to leave the conference was not a financial one. They would rather get beat by Alabama than Kansas State, or Florida rather than Kansas State."

This is gonna be one tough season on refs again. Last year Penalties UT v. Ok St. : Texas 14, Ok St. 0.... The holding calls on the offensive line in the Big 12 are crazy. They want to keep that passing game clean. You can tackle defensive linemen.
Well thats quite a sendoff. Everyone hates us and we lose. Makes for a very popular team to watch on Saturday.

[pgardn]

A&M had to scramble to find opponents for their first couple seasons in the SEC. You can't just call up whomever and say "lets play next year". It doesn't work that way as schedules/opponents are typically ironed out 5-10 years in advance. Not to mention that A&M wanted to keep playing Texas and y'all ran away from that game at the time. A&M had to move around/cancel/add new games in a short order after they moved conferences. Since that time they have had non-conference games/home and homes with Arizona State, UCLA, Clemson, Miami, and this year Notre Dame. We have not avoided tough out of conference opponents and most of the SEC doesn't. Look in your own conference (Baylor) if you want to see that.



The SEC will go to 9 games eventually. They are staying at 8 games for the first season but it isn't a long term solution. This is primarily due to money/tv contracts (which is what all this is about). The SEC wants to see ESPN up the tv contracts by going to nine conference games and they need more time to iron this out.



A&M didn't leave because they craved to play in a conference with better competition. They left to get away from the dictatorship that was the university of texas who created an unlevel playing field that benefitted themselves over the rest of the conference. Now they are coming into the SEC and that is fine... well gladly play again; however, Texas isn't calling the shots anymore like they used to.

So ATM had no one on their schedule out of conference? It was not done ahead of time?
Texas had/has Alabama (twice), and in 2024-25 Michigan. who did ATm have? A blank slate?

We are coming and ATms vote to leave us out went? Oh changed?
We also will NOT be chanting S E C...

[GAustex]

Already making excuses

[pgardn]

Already making excuses

"The choice of Texas leaving was NOT a financial one..."

Money always has its place.

lol... horse manure.

[GAustex]

Maybe this move to the SEC will help ut to realize the consistent domination it should being so well heeled and in such an ideal location (except for this gawd awful summer heat).
In all sports
Maybe
You never know at this point
Prolly not though

[pgardn]

Honestly I dont get why people even have the notion that college football is fair from a money perspective.
There are a bunch of rich ass UT alums and huge following. They are the #1 most valuable football program as rated by almost any metric.
The whining over the ESPN deal was stupid. What school would not have taken that $. Look what ND has done with NBC.
This is so much about money. But if the actual rules of a game in progress changes... thats not a good look. The Big 12 has already done this with holding because "pass heavy" has a market.

If one watches this whole video and understands what the COO of the Big 12 said he just does not get it.
Spoiler alter for the video below. One of these Texas guys (the one on the right) discussing this is absolutely livid and disrespectful. He kinda illustrates why people do hate Texas.
But this is for certain;
These guys have absolutely valid points. College Sports has changed. Its semi pro football, and even before then, it was never fair in building talent.
Its just clear that Texas has been extraordinarily bad and getting top recruiting classes like the heydays of Mack Brown. And of course Daryll Royal. Now Texas has had a #5 and a #3 recruiting classes in a row that actually put value on Offensively lineman which just went away Mack past prime all the way to Herman. Now they have to get DL and thats not going as well in recruiting but getting better.

Anyways... this below is funny for me. This one guy is totally pissed and succeeds (imo) in the annihilation of Tim Weiser of the Big 12 and shows his UT bravado in the money-power theme.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXPcnhen5Js

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXPcnhen5Js

[DMX7]

"The choice of Texas leaving was NOT a financial one..."

Money always has its place.

lol... horse manure.

Of course money was a factor.

[FrostKing]

Northwestern controversy

Understand the HC being canned but the Assistants remained AND the baseball coach was fired?

Odd event

[pgardn]

Northwestern controversy

Understand the HC being canned but the Assistants remained AND the baseball coach was fired?

Odd event

This is truly a head scratcher.
Lots of silence on this whole affair.
And from a school that prides itself on journalism.

[pgardn]

Of course money was a factor.



Deputy commissioner of the Big 12:

"The choice of Texas to leave the conference was not a financial one. They would rather get beat by Alabama than Kansas State, or Florida rather than Kansas State."


Its a pretty good try at a dig, yet at the same time very stupid.
Especially since we have beaten K. State 6 times in a row.
The money thing is quite blatantly stupid.

[Blake]

The stupid thing is Texas thinking they need the SEC to make shit tons of money. Almost the same thing with OU.

I think there's a prestige thing mixed in there tho.... which is pretty dumb considering the SEC wasn't really that big a deal 20 years ago. It's all cyclical.

[leemajors]

The stupid thing is Texas thinking they need the SEC to make shit tons of money. Almost the same thing with OU.

I think there's a prestige thing mixed in there tho.... which is pretty dumb considering the SEC wasn't really that big a deal 20 years ago. It's all cyclical.

No, but the SEC will be in the drivers seat for big money broadcast negotiations in the future. If further consolidation happens, they will be one of the conferences taking teams in, not losing them.

[pgardn]

UT now spends the most money on sports programs since Del Conte took over.
UT wins that trophy (Directors cup?) for two years in a row that Stanford won almost every year for overall sports performance. Stanford won it again in 2023
The athletic director before Del Conte tried to save money for the school instead of building massive structures and practice facilities.

The sports is good. The academics is good for a public university. Austin... lots of things going for UT. So the failures in football is not pleasant. Getting to the level of Jearah Jones and the Dallas Cowboys.

[Blake]

No, but the SEC will be in the drivers seat for big money broadcast negotiations in the future. If further consolidation happens, they will be one of the conferences taking teams in, not losing them.

Yeah they and the Big are taking turns swallowing up the top TV market teams across the country.

UT could have stayed in their own car in the driver seat. I seriously think they should have gone independent and got their own mega Notre Dame type deal with ABC or Fox. But that's gone now. Just another team in the SEC sharing money with Vanderbilt.

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/TKKKpnw/Screenshot-20230718-041838-Chrome.png

Here we go again

The Seminoles have no chance

[rjv]

UT now spends the most money on sports programs since Del Conte took over.
UT wins that trophy (Directors cup?) for two years in a row that Stanford won almost every year for overall sports performance. Stanford won it again in 2023
The athletic director before Del Conte tried to save money for the school instead of building massive structures and practice facilities.

The sports is good. The academics is good for a public university. Austin... lots of things going for UT. So the failures in football is not pleasant. Getting to the level of Jearah Jones and the Dallas Cowboys.

meanwhile, aggies can't even hire a black female to restart a journalism department without checking to see if its klan alumni donors are okay with it.

[playblair]

colorado is leaving pac.........

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[Blake]

colorado is leaving pac.........

1684308770065641476

That'd be a win for both CU and the Big 12.

If true, probably the first domino to fall. The Arizona schools I think are gonna be next.

The big hopefuls tho are Washington and Oregon who I know are sitting waiting for their Big10+10 invite. They can't afford to wait too long tho or they'll be losing money staying in the Pac

[playblair]

That'd be a win for both CU and the Big 12.

If true, probably the first domino to fall. The Arizona schools I think are gonna be next.

The big hopefuls tho are Washington and Oregon who I know are sitting waiting for their Big10+10 invite. They can't afford to wait too long tho or they'll be losing money staying in the Pac

dominos r beginning to fall.........
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[FkLA]

Damn what happens to the Pac12? If Oregon and Washington get poached the Pac12 doesn't look much better, if at all, than the AAC, imho.

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[playblair]

Damn what happens to the Pac12? If Oregon and Washington get poached the Pac12 doesn't look much better, if at all, than the AAC, imho.


would pac12 champions still get an auto berth to the new playoff.......:wtf

[Blake]

.

[Blake]

dominos r beginning to fall.........
1684311955580788738


I don't think anyone is surprised at anything any more. I guess he's referring to Stanford but I don't see how they don't end up in the big ten

[Blake]

Damn what happens to the Pac12? If Oregon and Washington get poached the Pac12 doesn't look much better, if at all, than the AAC, imho.

1684336226139099138

As soon as USC and UCLA left they were finished

[DMX7]

That'd be a win for both CU and the Big 12.

If true, probably the first domino to fall. The Arizona schools I think are gonna be next.

The big hopefuls tho are Washington and Oregon who I know are sitting waiting for their Big10+10 invite. They can't afford to wait too long tho or they'll be losing money staying in the Pac

CU is a pretty unexciting addition but if it means the PAC has more wanting to defect then it could get really good for Big XII.

[rjv]

the death knell is upon the pac 12; i really can't see them keeping the other schools from jumping ship.

[GAustex]

Conference of Champions my ass

[Blake]

CU is a pretty unexciting addition but if it means the PAC has more wanting to defect then it could get really good for Big XII.

Arizona schools plus Utah would be ok, and as soon as the Cali schools left, I figured were a no brainer to be in the big 12+

Stanford, Washington and Oregon move the needle tho...

[FkLA]

Would the Big12 even want Colorado back if Deion hadnt gone there?

Imo, he's a gimmick and is gonna suck so kinda dumb to bank on one guy like that.

[playblair]

Would the Big12 even want Colorado back if Deion hadnt gone there?

Imo, he's a gimmick and is gonna suck so kinda dumb to bank on one guy like that.
yes.......colorado is a major market.......

[Blake]

yes.......colorado is a major market.......

This

[GAustex]

FSU tired of playing second fiddle to Clemson

[DMX7]

yes.......colorado is a major market.......

Colorado is a major market but the University of Colorado is a bit player there. They aren't the Denver Broncos. That said, you still take them. And now it looks like Arizona is going to bail and go to the Big 12 too. Gonna be a hell of a basketball conference though football is what drives the big money.

[Blake]

Colorado is a major market but the University of Colorado is a bit player there. They aren't the Denver Broncos. That said, you still take them. And now it looks like Arizona is going to bail and go to the Big 12 too. Gonna be a hell of a basketball conference though football is what drives the big money.

Doesn't matter. Denver is still a top twenty TV market. Why do you think the Big10 added Rutgers?

[rjv]

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/college/asu/2023/08/03/pac-12-dead-as-power-five-conference-what-future-lies-ahead/70525798007/

[playblair]

asu & utah dont want to move to little12 but r going to be forced to........asu president trying everything to prevent the move........

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1687510511355879424

[FrostKing]

Circus

Dunno why Aztecs didn't make a jump. Think it was over 5-10M


FSU & Clemson will eventually end up in the SEC. I think UNC & Miami go Big10. Not sure bout Duke. Seems the Big10 has and will continue to prioritize Basketball in comparison to SEC

Sad some historic American College rivalries will die. Atleast I grew up and enjoyed the glory days.

[rjv]

SEC insists it's fine with just 16 teams for the time but time will tell. the biggest obstacle for both FSU and Clemson are there enormous exit fees and legal obstacles.

[Blake]

asu & utah dont want to move to little12 but r going to be forced to........asu president trying everything to prevent the move........

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1687510511355879424

Ehh was holding on to the slightest bit of hope they'd go big 12 but knew they'd go big 10 from the get go. Only makes sense to help out UCLA and USC with their travels.

ASU and Utah lol fuck you, you don't have a choice. Get over here with the bench warmer 12.

[Blake]

Circus

Dunno why Aztecs didn't make a jump. Think it was over 5-10M


FSU & Clemson will eventually end up in the SEC. I think UNC & Miami go Big10. Not sure bout Duke. Seems the Big10 has and will continue to prioritize Basketball in comparison to SEC

Sad some historic American College rivalries will die. Atleast I grew up and enjoyed the glory days.

Duke and UNC would be good adds for the big 12 if they can get em. The landscape now belongs to the big 10 to pick and choose any school left in the Pac and ACC. And the Big 12 will be there for the rest. Crazy.

[DMX7]

Doesn't matter. Denver is still a top twenty TV market. Why do you think the Big10 added Rutgers?

Because they wanted to market themselves more to the NY/NJ region but it was a mistake that has only brought the fan base Rutgers itself already had which wasn't that great.

[DMX7]

It's actually kind of sad to see the PAC totally collapse if that's what's going to happen. Maybe it merges with the Mountain West or something?

[Blake]

Because they wanted to market themselves more to the NY/NJ region but it was a mistake that has only brought the fan base Rutgers itself already had which wasn't that great.

Delaney:

"....Delany: We have all of our studies done internally. But since we screwed up the Penn State approach, and since we screwed up by being transparent, we kind of combined opaqueness by keeping it private with internal collaboration. So everybody knew what was going on that needed to know. And we took Maryland and Rutgers.

That was a reaction in part to the idea that we need to be in two regions. Because the way I was doing this, it was consolidation for media purposes, but it had to meet the standard of AAU in a contiguous state. While Nebraska didn’t have many TV homes and had a big brand, you would say that Maryland and Rutgers didn’t have the Nebraska brand. But they had good brands and had good academics and they were in the most densely populated area of the country, albeit a pro sports area primarily, but you don’t need to get 10 percent; you just need to get 2 percent......"

https://theathletic.com/4676257/2023/07/14/college-football-realignment-jim-delany/

[GAustex]

FSU tired of playing second fiddle to Clemson

Good job Frosty not taking the bait.
I chummed the water looking for a FSU bite.
But no

[playblair]

pac12 has 4 teams left..........mwc teams have $30 million exit fee..........pac wont be adding mwc teams........who can they add.......
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[FrostKing]

Good job Frosty not taking the bait.
I chummed the water looking for a FSU bite.
But no
Haha yah at the moment it's like playing little step brother to Gators. Clemson has the same dreams as us

The FSU vs UNC AD. I agree with both. Seminoles earning half the revenue of Rutgers/Vandy is hampering the program and without changes would possibly sink it nationally

UNC is saying keep it in house. This hurts the brand. Honor your contract.



The issue here is the dead weights in these big conferences. Ideally there is a new League created with only powers. Big10 especially over expanded with questionable programs like Nebraska even.

[benefactor]

Wild shit tbh. Crazy to think the Pac will be no more.

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/SJTrD1X/Screenshot-20230804-193042-Chrome.png

In the early 2000s, Pac10 & ACC arguably had the brightest futures. Pac was regularly embarrassing Big10 on the gridiron and ACC had just added Miami & Vtech (3 title appearances in the previous 5 years).


Video killed the radio star. And it did the same to these Conferences.

[pgardn]

This is all pretty damn interesting.
Its only fall practice and all this shit is happening.
If I really liked the old college football like pop-sickle I would probably be sad.

Its not that I like the new situation with conference decimation, NIL, and the transfer portal. It is just really hard to predict where this is all going so its kind of fun.
The college presidents, alumni and ADs are now getting uncomfortable with a lot of this so expect some rule alterations. Hell they are not even alterations as the rules are not clear to begin with.

[Blake]

https://i.ibb.co/SJTrD1X/Screenshot-20230804-193042-Chrome.png

In the early 2000s, Pac10 & ACC arguably had the brightest futures. Pac was regularly embarrassing Big10 on the gridiron and ACC had just added Miami & Vtech (3 title appearances in the previous 5 years).


Video killed the radio star. And it did the same to these Conferences.

UT was never really fond of moving West and they wouldn't budge on the Longhorn Network. I think the horns still would leave the PAC had they joined.

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/2Mnk4Rb/Screenshot-20230802-165817-Chrome.png

https://i.ibb.co/ncbNxQM/72455576-jpg.jpg

Next time someone cracks joke bout FSU kickers. Janikowski

[JamStone]

Sometime like a decade ago, when the football talking heads were trying to move on from the BCS, there were rumblings that college football was moving towards four super conferences of 16 teams each. Feels like that’s what’s kind of happening now. But it’s disorganized and chaotic because schools are scrambling and just jumping off and jumping on in reaction to other programs.

Even 16 teams per conference felt like too many especially for football because you simply can’t play 15 other teams a season. Schedules will never be balanced. Now some of these conferences are goin 18, 20 deep. Maybe more.

A four super conference format kind of made sense. But there will be logistical problems and growing pains with that as well. Will it really be two big boy conferences and the other two full of have-nots left over from the former Power 5 conferences? Geography has been blown all to hell with what the Big Ten is doing. How does it affect the playoffs now that SEC and B1G traditional powers may have 1 or 2 losses because they have other big boy programs they have to play in the conference schedule?

It’s some wild times in college football right now.

[lebomb]

I personal feel conference realignment has become a joke. How can you have a conference foe that is 1500 miles away? LOL..........I can see this whole thing not working in the long run. Teams will start complaining about travel and the affect it has on the teams and student athletes. Not only that, but the fan bases as well. There is no way in hell I can afford to go watch a conference game 1000-2000 miles away. I guess TV is the only answer to that. :wtf

[pgardn]

Sometime like a decade ago, when the football talking heads were trying to move on from the BCS, there were rumblings that college football was moving towards four super conferences of 16 teams each. Feels like that’s what’s kind of happening now. But it’s disorganized and chaotic because schools are scrambling and just jumping off and jumping on in reaction to other programs.

Even 16 teams per conference felt like too many especially for football because you simply can’t play 15 other teams a season. Schedules will never be balanced. Now some of these conferences are goin 18, 20 deep. Maybe more.

A four super conference format kind of made sense. But there will be logistical problems and growing pains with that as well. Will it really be two big boy conferences and the other two full of have-nots left over from the former Power 5 conferences? Geography has been blown all to hell with what the Big Ten is doing. How does it affect the playoffs now that SEC and B1G traditional powers may have 1 or 2 losses because they have other big boy programs they have to play in the conference schedule?

It’s some wild times in college football right now.

One Bud Elliot says there are 18 college football teams that have the fan base, money, and tradition to go out on their own.
This is now starting to sound like English Premier League Soccer.

BTW... Michigan and Texas are apart of this group. ATM fans dont worry. You are there as well as fanatics.

Im guessing along with the 3 mentioned above in no order.

1. OU
2. Alabama
3. Georiga
4. LSU
5. Ohio State
6. USC
7. ND
8. Penn ST.
9. Oregon
10. Tennessee
11. Florida
12. Florida St.
13. Clemson
14. Auburn
15. UCLA

I did not take into account markets these schools are in except for UCLA. I guess Nebraska might fit.
Anyone else see any school I clearly missed for a top 18? I might have gone heavy on the South East.
Or should teams like UCLA be omitted?

[pgardn]

I personal feel conference realignment has become a joke. How can you have a conference foe that is 1500 miles away? LOL..........I can see this whole thing not working in the long run. Teams will start complaining about travel and the affect it has on the teams and student athletes. Not only that, but the fan bases as well. There is no way in hell I can afford to go watch a conference game 1000-2000 miles away. I guess TV is the only answer to that. :wtf

This is the sad part.
There are no cheap seats and travel.
The Alumni of the huge rich schools will make it.

IMO this leads to the quiet crowds you find in some NFL stadiums.
This is why I really like LSU even though they seem to be a bunch of inbred offset eyed brats. jk...
No one has won a game at Alabama in a night game since 2015... Thats Baton Rouge and Tuscaloosa making a lot of noise. Tiny places.
College Station is the same way except they take orders on when to cheer. I still think Austin is quiet even with the new enclosed larger stadium.

[Blake]

https://i.ibb.co/2Mnk4Rb/Screenshot-20230802-165817-Chrome.png

https://i.ibb.co/ncbNxQM/72455576-jpg.jpg

Next time someone cracks joke bout FSU kickers. Janikowski

:lmao kicker U. That's funny

[FrostKing]

Sometime like a decade ago, when the football talking heads were trying to move on from the BCS, there were rumblings that college football was moving towards four super conferences of 16 teams each. Feels like that’s what’s kind of happening now. But it’s disorganized and chaotic because schools are scrambling and just jumping off and jumping on in reaction to other programs.

Even 16 teams per conference felt like too many especially for football because you simply can’t play 15 other teams a season. Schedules will never be balanced. Now some of these conferences are goin 18, 20 deep. Maybe more.

A four super conference format kind of made sense. But there will be logistical problems and growing pains with that as well. Will it really be two big boy conferences and the other two full of have-nots left over from the former Power 5 conferences? Geography has been blown all to hell with what the Big Ten is doing. How does it affect the playoffs now that SEC and B1G traditional powers may have 1 or 2 losses because they have other big boy programs they have to play in the conference schedule?

It’s some wild times in college football right now.
Ideally they should just scratch everything and redraw regionally. Instead we have this middle ground where fillers (Rutgers/Vanderbilt) are at the big table

[FrostKing]

:lmao kicker U. That's funny
They did every Unit. Fun read.

But yah I grew up as Seminoles being the biggest kicker joke. "If Bobby had a kicker, his hand would be full of rings"

[Blake]

Sometime like a decade ago, when the football talking heads were trying to move on from the BCS, there were rumblings that college football was moving towards four super conferences of 16 teams each. Feels like that’s what’s kind of happening now. But it’s disorganized and chaotic because schools are scrambling and just jumping off and jumping on in reaction to other programs.

Even 16 teams per conference felt like too many especially for football because you simply can’t play 15 other teams a season. Schedules will never be balanced. Now some of these conferences are goin 18, 20 deep. Maybe more.

A four super conference format kind of made sense. But there will be logistical problems and growing pains with that as well. Will it really be two big boy conferences and the other two full of have-nots left over from the former Power 5 conferences? Geography has been blown all to hell with what the Big Ten is doing. How does it affect the playoffs now that SEC and B1G traditional powers may have 1 or 2 losses because they have other big boy programs they have to play in the conference schedule?

It’s some wild times in college football right now.

Yeah I recall the rumblings and it was clear with TV it was just a matter of time... Just took a little longer than some like myself thought.

Feels like it's now two super conferences, two middling conferences and everyone else.

[Blake]

They did every Unit. Fun read.

But yah I grew up as Seminoles being the biggest kicker joke. "If Bobby had a kicker, his hand would be full of rings"

Prob so.

[FrostKing]

Texas vs FSU in the SECCG

Bump this when it inevitably occurs

[Blake]

I personal feel conference realignment has become a joke. How can you have a conference foe that is 1500 miles away? LOL..........I can see this whole thing not working in the long run. Teams will start complaining about travel and the affect it has on the teams and student athletes. Not only that, but the fan bases as well. There is no way in hell I can afford to go watch a conference game 1000-2000 miles away. I guess TV is the only answer to that. :wtf

Pro teams have no problem. And student athletes can study and do work online. The only problem with long travel is the cost but these conference deals are so ludicrous.

And the TV stations will pass the buck to the advertisers who will pass the buck to the consumer so be ready to pay .50 cents more for that 12 pack of bud light

[Blake]

Texas vs FSU in the SECCG

Bump this when it inevitably occurs

If this website is still here in the year 2060 ok

[FrostKing]

If this website is still here in the year 2060 ok
I bookmarked and set alarm reminder

I've been running daily and eating great for 5+ years. I'll see the 2060s

[lebomb]

The non-football sports (soccer, baseball, softball, volleyball) are p'd off at the new alignments. The travel for the smaller teams is going to be brutal. Many are complaining this is not what they signed up for. Like I said, IMHO this will not work in the long run. We will see ...Greed will probably win out though. :claw

[rjv]

Pro teams have no problem. And student athletes can study and do work online. The only problem with long travel is the cost but these conference deals are so ludicrous.

And the TV stations will pass the buck to the advertisers who will pass the buck to the consumer so be ready to pay .50 cents more for that 12 pack of bud light

it won't be a problem for the football teams but it will take its toll on the baseball and basketball players. as for budget, i don't see how the golf, soccer, tennis, swim teams, et cetera, will handle the increased budgets. and they can's just scrap these programs because there will be a whole slew of Title IX lawsuits coming if they did. this just sounds like there are so many programs not wanting to get left out that they're just hoping it all gets sorted out down the road.

[Blake]

The non-football sports (soccer, baseball, softball, volleyball) are p'd off at the new alignments. The travel for the smaller teams is going to be brutal. Many are complaining this is not what they signed up for. Like I said, IMHO this will not work in the long run. We will see ...Greed will probably win out though. :claw

The travel for the coast teams will be brutal. I've seen discussions already that for the Olympic sports the conferences will probably spilt up until conference tournaments, which would seem to help, but if players want to they can transfer. And yeah greed always wins out.

[lebomb]

100% Blake

[FkLA]

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If they can can add even just WSU+OSU and pull Boise St+Sand Diego St from the MWC that would be sick. If they manage to bring in Cal and Stanford too just wow.

LFG Aresco!!

[Blake]

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If they can can add even just WSU+OSU and pull Boise St+Sand Diego St from the MWC that would be sick. If they manage to bring in Cal and Stanford too just wow.

LFG Aresco!!

Good for them for being aggressive but lol at getting Stanford. The Cardinal will go indy until the big 10 calls.

[DMX7]

Good for them for being aggressive but lol at getting Stanford. The Cardinal will go indy until the big 10 calls.

Going Indy is extremely difficult for the "other" sports not named football or basketball. Even Notre Dame didn't want to do it for non-football sports. But I can't imagine AAC actually landing any of those schools. OSU and WSU would be a better fit in the MWC anyway. I have no clue what Stanford and Cal are going to do though. Their options seem bad. Would the Big XII really not take them if they're adding Arizona , Colorado and Utah ?

[Blake]

Going Indy is extremely difficult for the "other" sports not named football or basketball. Even Notre Dame didn't want to do it for non-football sports. But I can't imagine AAC actually landing any of those schools. OSU and WSU would be a better fit in the MWC anyway. I have no clue what Stanford and Cal are going to do though. Their options seem bad. Would the Big XII really not take them if they're adding Arizona , Colorado and Utah ?

I'm not sure why the big 12 is never in the conversation about the big 12. They sure are in a precarious position tho

[FkLA]

Not sure how tied in this guy is, but yes please. This would be amazing.

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[Blake]

I'm not sure why the big 12 is never in the conversation about the big 12. They sure are in a precarious position tho

Yeah that made total sense. I meant Stanford.

[Blake]

Not sure how tied in this guy is, but yes please. This would be amazing.

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That's the absolute best case scenario for the American. There's no way that Stanford gets excited to go play Florida Atlantic when they can just go Indy and get a great schedule for TV themselves

[pgardn]

Not sure how tied in this guy is, but yes please. This would be amazing.

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Very nice.
Makes perfect sense.
Will view/record.

[pgardn]

That's the absolute best case scenario for the American. There's no way that Stanford gets excited to go play Florida Atlantic when they can just go Indy and get a great schedule for TV themselves

As for Texas Tech...

They are really recruiting well.
If they could establish themselves as the leaders of the "Big 12" and they are in the playoffs consistently... The playoffs going to 12 helps a bunch imo.
Thats big stuff. They could line themselves up in the state to catch all of those late bloomers plus a few "play immediately" players will be available.
I am also of the opinion that ATM is in a position to really take a hit with their new offensive coordinator provided Jimbo does not listen to him.

Joey is a recruiting machine.

[Blake]

As for Texas Tech...

They are really recruiting well.
If they could establish themselves as the leaders of the "Big 12" and they are in the playoffs consistently... The playoffs going to 12 helps a bunch imo.
Thats big stuff. They could line themselves up in the state to catch all of those late bloomers plus a few "play immediately" players will be available.
I am also of the opinion that ATM is in a position to really take a hit with their new offensive coordinator provided Jimbo does not listen to him.

Joey is a recruiting machine.

It's funny, recruiting well for Texas Tech just means beating the other middling teams for the high end 3 stars and a few four stars. Is what it is.

[FkLA]

That's the absolute best case scenario for the American. There's no way that Stanford gets excited to go play Florida Atlantic when they can just go Indy and get a great schedule for TV themselves

That same Oregon St guy is saying Aresco and Luck are trying to appease Stanford by creating a scheduling pod for them consisting of AAU/big city universities (Rice, Tulane, SMU, Cal, etc). He's also saying there would be three tiers of revenue distribution. Tier one would be PAC4 + SDSU + a few legacy AAC member. Tier three would be the new incoming AAC members (includes UTSA).

But again not sure how tied in he truly is, tbh.

[FrostKing]

I think Aztecs would prefer to stay in their current position. Until a bigger fish calls.

[Blake]

That same Oregon St guy is saying Aresco and Luck are trying to appease Stanford by creating a scheduling pod for them consisting of AAU/big city universities (Rice, Tulane, SMU, Cal, etc). He's also saying there would be three tiers of revenue distribution. Tier one would be PAC4 + SDSU + a few legacy AAC member. Tier three would be the new incoming AAC members (includes UTSA).

But again not sure how tied in he truly is, tbh.

Of course they're trying to appease Stanford.

They're not going to but they have to try.

[Blake]

I think Aztecs would prefer to stay in their current position. Until a bigger fish calls.

Lol what bigger fish?

[pgardn]

It's funny, recruiting well for Texas Tech just means beating the other middling teams for the high end 3 stars and a few four stars. Is what it is.

Only UCF is ahead of TT right now minus UT and OU in the big 12.
you have a better chance of making the playoffs.
Thats what you wanted, a chance. Lubbock is tough, but so is College Station. (To recruit in... All of the south may turn into some sort of hell pit the way summers are going)

UT may turn out to be like ATM and always be sitting on the sidelines till the end of time.
But there will be no "SEC" chants to replace the failures. Its all on us. We have access to recruits almost everywhere now.
Our best recruits for 2023 could very well turn out to be out of State, even with Simmons.
Half of our current pledges are from out of state. The 3 biggest recruits we are waiting on are all from out of state.
This thing has gotten very mobile. Also UT appears to just not to take a recruit in a position we need immediate help. The transfer portal has been very good for UT except at the edge.

All of the above being stated, Georgia, Alabama, Ohio St., Clemson, USC can just walk into Texas and take the best recruits. Have to eventually win again in the age of semi pro football.
The money is certainly available.

[Blake]

I think UCF is a monster football program waiting to happen, tbh...

[Blake]

Lol North Carolina one spot behind the horns at Rivals. Mack Brown was never a good X and O coach but he has always been maybe the best salesman in the country

[pgardn]

Lol North Carolina one spot behind the horns at Rivals. Mack Brown was never a good X and O coach but he has always been maybe the best salesman in the country

He knows everyone's name in the room.

[pgardn]

I think UCF is a monster football program waiting to happen, tbh...

Florida, Florida St., Miami... That State is packed. And still sending a ton of players away to other States.

[FkLA]

I think UCF is a monster football program waiting to happen, tbh...

Damn, thats impressive af that they're already at the top besides OU/UT. What they did in the G5 has always been the blueprint for UTSA just wasn't expecting them to make the jump and immediately be near the top.

[FkLA]

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[Blake]

Damn, thats impressive af that they're already at the top besides OU/UT. What they did in the G5 has always been the blueprint for UTSA just wasn't expecting them to make the jump and immediately be near the top.

They've got the location, the massive student enrollment, the willpower and the $$

[pgardn]

Im thinking football should be separated from the other sports in conference alignment.

Makes no sense for highly regional sports, lacrosse etc... all of the sudden go through a shift in opposition or worse, not even have any opposition in a new conference due to football.
It seems the regionality of other sports does not need to bend to football. Notre Dame has already accomplished this by themselves.
Maybe we should be asking what conference does your women's volleyball team play in instead of UCLA playing Rutgers in volleyball.

[FrostKing]

Im thinking football should be separated from the other sports in conference alignment.

Makes no sense for highly regional sports, lacrosse etc... all of the sudden go through a shift in opposition or worse, not even have any opposition in a new conference due to football.
It seems the regionality of other sports does not need to bend to football. Notre Dame has already accomplished this by themselves.
Maybe we should be asking what conference does your women's volleyball team play in instead of UCLA playing Rutgers in volleyball.
I dunno the financial repercussions under such a scenario but I agree. CFB is fking everything up. Especially comical considering Football travels/plays the least amount of games :lol

[pgardn]

I dunno the financial repercussions under such a scenario but I agree. CFB is fking everything up. Especially comical considering Football travels/plays the least amount of games :lol

Football is in a whole other world financially.
It is beholden to network TV now. ESPN and FOX are helping direct things and competing by helping move teams.
This does not need to impact most of the other sports. Especially the sports that come to an end at the college level.
And you made a very good point about all the travel. Other sports can stay regional. This can be done.

[Blake]

Im thinking football should be separated from the other sports in conference alignment.

Makes no sense for highly regional sports, lacrosse etc... all of the sudden go through a shift in opposition or worse, not even have any opposition in a new conference due to football.
It seems the regionality of other sports does not need to bend to football. Notre Dame has already accomplished this by themselves.
Maybe we should be asking what conference does your women's volleyball team play in instead of UCLA playing Rutgers in volleyball.

That actually makes a lot of sense. It'll never happen though.

[DMX7]

I think Aztecs would prefer to stay in their current position. Until a bigger fish calls.

The buyout for them to leave the MWC could be as high as $34MM. That's one reason not to leave.

[DMX7]

That actually makes a lot of sense. It'll never happen though.

Never say never. If this latest round of conference realignment somehow goes badly then eventually something like that might get taken more seriously. I think football and basketball would probably stay in the same conference but who knows with the other sports.

[Blake]

Never say never. If this latest round of conference realignment somehow goes badly then eventually something like that might get taken more seriously. I think football and basketball would probably stay in the same conference but who knows with the other sports.

True and actually maybe Stanford does go indy in football and then joins the AAC or MWC for Olympic sports

[pgardn]

Never say never. If this latest round of conference realignment somehow goes badly then eventually something like that might get taken more seriously. I think football and basketball would probably stay in the same conference but who knows with the other sports.

The "other" sports give the school much more of a college feel, especially if they are not profitable to play after school. The kids that participate truly love sports and really have to balance their sport with actual school. Although it must be said that the private tutoring that football players get, if they really want it, can be phenomenal. I know this to be true at UT and Tulane personally and anecdotally.

[DMX7]

The "other" sports give the school much more of a college feel, especially if they are not profitable to play after school. The kids that participate truly love sports and really have to balance their sport with actual school. Although it must be said that the private tutoring that football players get, if they really want it, can be phenomenal. I know this to be true at UT and Tulane personally and anecdotally.

Yes, which is why it's sad these sports seem to be an afterthought in conference realignment for some schools. I think UT's non-football and non-basketball sports will be in a nice position though.

[pgardn]

Yes, which is why it's sad these sports seem to be an afterthought in conference realignment for some schools. I think UT's non-football and non-basketball sports will be in a nice position though.

Chris Del Conte just got a 7 year contract extension. So the other sports will not be overlooked.
Just wish he would float the idea of separating football from the other sports with regional appeal.
He has enough of a good reputation to actually get it done with other ADs and within UT itself with the regents and president.

[Blake]

Reports saying Stanford will play in the ACC for free if they let them in. Desperate times.

[MultiTroll]

For a rookie who should be fighting for a roster spot, UTSA Corey Mayfield Jr sure played like a soft phaggot with the game on the line tonight.

Ravens 24 game unbeaten streak lost on a fg at the buzzer.

He was involved in 3 of the crucial advancements on the final WA drive.

[pgardn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4kSCyYM4YE

From an Austin station I think.
The new Commish going WWE on Texas.
Since we are not a part of the Big 12 apparently, can we get some refs from the ACC or something.
This is the second time we have had these sorts of statements. I will say it does make the season interesting, so Brett got my attention

[pgardn]

Actually Brett may have made a great move for one game. TT v. Texas final game of reg season. Maybe gather a lot of WWE viewers. Here is the plan:

TT and Texas come into this game as a must win to get into the Big 12 playoff game. Texas shows the video on their giant video board right before kickoff with a picture of Joey McGuires face. Get some Big 12 viewership going for next season after Texas and Oklahoma have been "thrown out" of the league a year earlier than wanted by Brett.

If this was Aggie and Brett came to College Station, he would have to have Big 12 police protection. I can imagine the Corps of Cadets unleashing swords upon all these county sheriffs with big ole southern police hats.

[Blake]

This big 12 commissioner is a good one. Had he been the PAC commissioner thru all this, it might be Tech, Baylor etc in bad spots instead of Oregon St/Washington St

[pgardn]

This big 12 commissioner is a good one. Had he been the PAC commissioner thru all this, it might be Tech, Baylor etc in bad spots instead of Oregon St/Washington St

He has set up the best basketball conference.
And he is definitely from the entertainment industry.

And TT is in a better spot than UT to make the playoffs. But Texas is going to get some awesome games both in and out of conference. Home and home with Michigan and then Ohio St. Next 4 years. I wonder if the SEC makes us play Slippery Rock for an off week. I think we actually might keep going with UTSA which should be fun. But it looks like TT will probably not be on the schedule after the goodbye... and thats actually not TTs fault. I would keep that game personally. I wonder if OU and OK st. keep playing...

[DMX7]

Stanford, Cal, SMU to ACC. Crazy times!

SMU is reportedly getting ZERO broadcast revenue for 9 years. Stanford & Cal coming in at a big discount too.

Looks like the AAC losing a key member in SMU, so who replaces it?

[Blake]

He has set up the best basketball conference.
And he is definitely from the entertainment industry.

And TT is in a better spot than UT to make the playoffs. But Texas is going to get some awesome games both in and out of conference. Home and home with Michigan and then Ohio St. Next 4 years. I wonder if the SEC makes us play Slippery Rock for an off week. I think we actually might keep going with UTSA which should be fun. But it looks like TT will probably not be on the schedule after the goodbye... and thats actually not TTs fault. I would keep that game personally. I wonder if OU and OK st. keep playing...

All the big 12 teams are definitely in easier spots to make playoffs now with UT and OU gone. But TV thanks the horns for moving for the potentially awesome matchups.

[Blake]

Stanford, Cal, SMU to ACC. Crazy times!

SMU is reportedly getting ZERO broadcast revenue for 9 years. Stanford & Cal coming in at a big discount too.

Looks like the AAC losing a key member in SMU, so who replaces it?

That's HUGE for SMU even if they aren't getting paid any time soon

[DMX7]

That's HUGE for SMU even if they aren't getting paid any time soon

It is for sure. But I can still barely wrap my head around the fact that they won't have a fellow conference school within like 800 miles of them.

[rjv]

stanford, cal and SMU had no choice but i'm not sure what the ACC will look like in a couple of years.

[Trill Clinton]

Man it felt so good watching Dabo get his ass kicked last night.

[Blake]

Man it felt so good watching Dabo get his ass kicked last night.

Especially by Duke

[FrostKing]

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[rjv]

lol at dabo

[Blake]

UTSA only a 12.5 favorite over Texas State.

Do the bobcats actually have a chance in this one?

I can't believe I actually want to watch this

[rjv]

UTSA only a 12.5 favorite over Texas State.

Do the bobcats actually have a chance in this one?

I can't believe I actually want to watch this

i have no idea. is baylor that bad? is texas state that much better despite losing so many players in the transfer portal (maybe that was a good thing). i don't even know what to make of UTSA. is houston's defense that good or is harris struggling with his knees? personally, i think he was rusty due to lack of reps and does not have a rhythm with his altered receiving corps (now that he's without franklin and clark is still recovering from his injury). i have no idea what to expect on this one.

[Blake]

i have no idea. is baylor that bad? is texas state that much better despite losing so many players in the transfer portal (maybe that was a good thing). i don't even know what to make of UTSA. is houston's defense that good or is harris struggling with his knees? personally, i think he was rusty due to lack of reps and does not have a rhythm with his altered receiving corps (now that he's without franklin and clark is still recovering from his injury). i have no idea what to expect on this one.

The two schools that cleared out the most scholarship kids in Colorado and Texas St were the two with the big upsets in week one.

Yeah, is that a fluke or is it the way to win games these days at that level?

I have no clue what to make of anyone after week 1 except for Bama and Georgia. Possibly FlaSt

[pgardn]

The two schools that cleared out the most scholarship kids in Colorado and Texas St were the two with the big upsets in week one.

Yeah, is that a fluke or is it the way to win games these days at that level?

I have no clue what to make of anyone after week 1 except for Bama and Georgia. Possibly FlaSt

Fla st has been tremendous in the portal.

[benefactor]

Dabo has been resistant to use the portal and it has cost him. This is modern college football and how teams are built. Adjust or die

[Blake]

Longhorn fans awfully quiet in here for such a big game tomorrow. I sense nobody thinks the horns will win this one

[Blake]

Funny this year the horns are 7.5 underdogs on the road but last year against this team were 21 point dogs at home

[DMX7]

Texas State beat Baylor in Waco... If Texas losses tomorrow it will be unspeakable.

[Blake]

Texas State beat Baylor in Waco... If Texas losses tomorrow it will be unspeakable.

Baylor could have beat Utah

[FrostKing]

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The witch is dead

ACC is ours again

7-game losing streak over

[Blake]

https://i.ibb.co/qY8qF72/Screenshot-20230923-124041-Chrome.png

The witch is dead

ACC is ours again

7-game losing streak over

Lol missed chip shot. FSU has no excuses now not to make playoffs

[MultiTroll]

Oregon looks for real.
Even if it is hammering Dieon's 1st year team.
Oregon will finally breat the Pac 12 thru imo.
Even if it is the year the Pac dissolves.

[Blake]

Weird that Tech could have should soundly beat the ducks.

Because Techs offensive coordinator really sucks ass.

[pgardn]

Texas State beat Baylor in Waco... If Texas losses tomorrow it will be unspeakable.

most of the biggest betting lines made a big move from about UT -15 to UT -17 in a very short time period.
I guess it had to do with the Baylor QB problems. I would not have taken that bet as I thought Aranda was going to have to win or make it close if he was to hang on to the job upon the end of the season. Then I found out he got a contract extension till like 2028. Got no clue how much (private university)

Big jump in betting llnes are always interesting.

Anyways that game in Waco was an annihilation. Imagine if UT had not dropped two punts in their red zone. Baylor offensive line was completely overwhelmed physically. This is a game that if you look at the score and the yardage you really dont get a feel for what really happened. This could have been 49-0 quite easily with both UT backup qbs playing.

In other news Atm QB that had looked so good is injured. So the backup from LSU comes in throwing perfect long balls. Irony. He did that to ATM.

[rjv]

Wiegman out for the year with a broken bone in his foot.