Spurs need Jalen Duren

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Even the Spurs' official site lists Collins as a forward and a center, you gaping anus.

https://www.nba.com/spurs/roster/grid

They also list Keldon as a F/G but play him exclusively as a 4. It doesn't matter what they list them as.

Collins is a C. On offense and defense. He's been all season long and he will be in the future. Even when paired with another big - Landale - it was Collins playing the C on both ends because he's less mobile. He's played less than a minute with Poeltl, for example.

[T Park]

The last time we listened to Larry Brown on a center, we ended up having to use Scola to salary dump him.

He also LOVED Dwayne Schintzius. LOVED.

[Mr. Body]

They also list Keldon as a F/G but play him exclusively as a 4. It doesn't matter what they list them as.

Collins is a C. On offense and defense. He's been all season long and he will be in the future. Even when paired with another big - Landale - it was Collins playing the C on both ends because he's less mobile. He's played less than a minute with Poeltl, for example.

Lol, if Collins is a C only then we're fucked and he'll be out of the league in a second.

[wildbill2u]

My guess is that the Spurs must be fairly pleased with the way the risk of the Collins acquisition turned out. It seemed to me that his play improved as the season went along, not bad for a previous lottery pick who hadn't played for a couple of years. I doubt they are willing to give up on Collins and trade him away since their gamble worked. That being said, where would Collins rank in the ongoing plans for the Spurs? Does he have any more upside than shown this season? I think he does, but not enough to make Poertle expendable.

So at this point, they are not going to trade Poertle if the only option is to leave the C position to Collins and Landale. However, in another thread someone suggested we trade Poertle for Charlotte's 13 or 15th pick, giving us 9, 13/15, 20 and 25. You wouldn't do this in a vacuum. But if the idea would be to use 9, 13 or 20 to pick up either Duren or Williams for the future Center position, that could be the wild swing for a home run that the FO needs to jump start a rebuild??? Might suck for next season relying on Collins and Landale and a rookie, but I'm in for some wild swings with this draft.

It would be nice if Landale can do a little more work at PF next year, but he isn't the optimal solution to the PF problem.

[Ocotillo]

I think the people advocating a Charlotte trade have different iterations of what they would do, some iterations would hang onto the 9th pick, others would trade it to Charlotte in exchange for either 13 or 15 and something else. Poetl going there I think would be asking for both picks.

[exstatic]

I think the people advocating a Charlotte trade have different iterations of what they would do, some iterations would hang onto the 9th pick, others would trade it to Charlotte in exchange for either 13 or 15 and something else. Poetl going there I think would be asking for both picks.

It would depend on what players/salary they’re sending back. If they’re deadweight, both picks, one for Jak, and one for the dead cap. If they’re something that can be developed or flipped for more assets, one FRP should do.

[The Truth #6]

I think the people advocating a Charlotte trade have different iterations of what they would do, some iterations would hang onto the 9th pick, others would trade it to Charlotte in exchange for either 13 or 15 and something else. Poetl going there I think would be asking for both picks.

It definitely seems like with their need for a Center and our most likely interest in not paying Yak a big check for his next contract that there could be some room to make a deal. But it feels like Duren or possibly M. Williams is the center CHA would want because he would best complement Lamelo. I think they would want a rim runner/lob threat and I don't see Yak as that, though who knows what CHA really wants.

Now, if the FO wants to pursue Duren, then I guess they see his floor as being good enough to help now, because he would be replacing a defensive minded center who can't shoot for another one, but with the hope that he can improve over time.

[Mr. Body]

It definitely seems like with their need for a Center and our most likely interest in not paying Yak a big check for his next contract that there could be some room to make a deal. But it feels like Duren or possibly M. Williams is the center CHA would want because he would best complement Lamelo. I think they would want a rim runner/lob threat and I don't see Yak as that, though who knows what CHA really wants.

Now, if the FO wants to pursue Duren, then I guess they see his floor as being good enough to help now, because he would be replacing a defensive minded center who can't shoot for another one, but with the hope that he can improve over time.

Yes. What we keep talking past is that there has been no indication of a Charlotte trade whatsoever, only a single unsubstantiated rumor. There is no foundation in thinking Charlotte wants Poeltl or would trade for him. He's also, like you say, not a good fit. He's more of a half court player.

There do seem to be teams interested in Poeltl, including Toronto. Charlotte may be one of them, but we don't know this yet.

[TD 21]

Even the Spurs' official site lists Collins as a forward and a center, you gaping anus.

https://www.nba.com/spurs/roster/grid

:rollin



They also list Keldon as a F/G but play him exclusively as a 4. It doesn't matter what they list them as.

Collins is a C. On offense and defense. He's been all season long and he will be in the future. Even when paired with another big - Landale - it was Collins playing the C on both ends because he's less mobile. He's played less than a minute with Poeltl, for example.

:tu

[Drom John]

In Pelton's final stat only rankings, Duren is 22nd.

[CGD]

In Pelton's final stat only rankings, Duren is 22nd.

Where did Mark Williams land?

(Behind the paywall lol)

[Drom John]

Where did Mark Williams land?

(Behind the paywall lol)

Mark Williams 32nd.

As to paywall, I've scraped together 1-18, 20, 22, 24, 32, 33, 35, 38, 44, 48, 59.

[rjv]

larry brown as a coach is great but i don't know how great he is at evaluating talent, plus his view of a big is still pretty old school.

[Kevin]

I think the people advocating a Charlotte trade have different iterations of what they would do, some iterations would hang onto the 9th pick, others would trade it to Charlotte in exchange for either 13 or 15 and something else. Poetl going there I think would be asking for both picks.

Agreed. If the Hornets are parting with the 13 and 15 for a center its going to Jak not Duran since they are trying to win now.

I still think Jak and the 20 for the 13 and 15 is doable for both parties.

[exstatic]

Agreed. If the Hornets are parting with the 13 and 15 for a center its going to Jak not Duran since they are trying to win now.

I still think Jak and the 20 for the 13 and 15 is doable for both parties.

just to move up 5 or 7 spots is a poverty return. Shit, the corpse of Thad on a 2 month rental got us a 13 position jump from 33 to 20.

[Kevin]

just to move up 5 or 7 spots is a poverty return. Shit, the corpse of Thad on a 2 month rental got us a 13 position jump from 33 to 20.

It the 13 and 15 for Jak and the 20. Spurs keep the 9.

[exstatic]

It the 13 and 15 for Jak and the 20. Spurs keep the 9.

Gotcha. Misread, since some are floating 13 or 20. That’s doable, depending on what they send back for salary.

[rascal]

just to move up 5 or 7 spots is a poverty return. Shit, the corpse of Thad on a 2 month rental got us a 13 position jump from 33 to 20.

Those picks were still unknown at the time of that trade. Charlotte is not likely to trade away 13 and move down with the other for Poeltl?

Best you might be able to get one of those picks.

[Mr. Body]

Charlotte is not trading both picks for Poeltl. Their fans would riot. They'd be much more likely to go for Williams and Duren than Poeltl. Duren is perfect. They are sort of win now but not desperately so. Their main players are very young and they're on the cusp of the playoffs already.

[Degoat]

Charlotte I believe Hired Kenny Atkinson who has a reputation for developing young players, case closed tbh.

[Kevin]

Charlotte is not trading both picks for Poeltl. Their fans would riot. They'd be much more likely to go for Williams and Duren than Poeltl. Duren is perfect. They are sort of win now but not desperately so. Their main players are very young and they're on the cusp of the playoffs already.

But there's a good chance that Duren and Williams don't even reach what Jak current level. People seem to be assuming that Duren and Williams become at least as good as Jak and that's simply not true. Both of them carry bust risk and might only reach Jak current level of play two or three years from now. Williams and Duren are overrated relative to Jak. The very same things that limit Jak's value also limit their value too but they aren't proven NBA players and rim protectors like Jak.

[JPB]

It feels like ST wants more a center (jak by coincidence) for Charlotte that they might want themselves, tbh.

We honestly have no idea of their agenda but it's not because we'd like to trade Poetl there that they would be interested, not at the conditions Im' reading here anyway. Put the pipe down fellas, spurs aren't ending up with 9, 13/15 20 and 25.

Yes they'd like to be a PO team, but Charlotte isn't desperate and not a valuable center away from ringing... Poetl does'nt dramatically move the needle for them and they're not gonna trade away future potential jsut for Jak freakin' Poetl( even with #20 or 25)... I honestly don't know what mode they're in, but they're not gonna sacrifice future for maybe a first round sweep next year...

Hey, we've had enough people advocating here for missing the PO (and a sure first round exit) at the profit of a better pick (and future), not to imagine Charlotte would sacrifice their picks (and future) for mediocrity...

I would cost much better than that to put our hands on their picks.

[Kevin]

It feels like ST wants more a center (jak by coincidence) for Charlotte that they might want themselves, tbh.

We honestly have no idea of their agenda but it's not because we'd like to trade Poetl there that they would be interested, not at the conditions Im' reading here anyway. Put the pipe down fellas, spurs aren't ending up with 9, 13/15 20 and 25.

Yes they'd like to be a PO team, but Charlotte isn't desperate and not a valuable center away from ringing... Poetl does'nt dramatically move the needle for them and they're not gonna trade away future potential jsut for Jak freakin' Poetl( even with #20 or 25)... I honestly don't know what mode they're in, but they're not gonna sacrifice future for maybe a first round sweep next year...

Hey, we've had enough people advocating here for missing the PO (and a sure first round exit) at the profit of a better pick (and future), not to imagine Charlotte would sacrifice their picks (and future) for mediocrity...

I would cost much better than that to put our hands on their picks.

Jak still only turn 27 next season and they get his Bird Rights. People make it sound like Jak is 33 and on his last legs as a good player. The dude has a ton of good production ahead of him. Now I get it that once Jak gets paid he losses some value as an asset but once again people are overrating Duren and Williams relative Jak. All three guys share many of the same strengths and weaknesses but Jak is the only proven player among them.

[John B]

Jak still only turn 27 next season and they get his Bird Rights. People make it sound like Jak is 33 and on his last legs as a good player. The dude has a ton of good production ahead of him. Now I get it that once Jak gets paid he losses some value as an asset but once again people are overrating Duren and Williams relative Jak. All three guys share many of the same strengths and weaknesses but Jak is the only proven player among them.

Jak could be more valuable with a contender than a rebuilding team is the point. It would take a couple more years, even with a great draft before our young core can be a contender. So the timeline wise, it’s best to move Poeltl for Centers with higher upsides like Duren or Williams.

And not to burst your bubble, Jak has reached his ceiling. I doubt he improves a whole lot, maybe a little. He just doesn’t have the motor or desire because he’s been in the league for how many years??? And he’s barely have consistent reliable offense. I say cash it out while ahead.

[The Truth #6]

Lamelo wants to throw alley oops to somebody. The GM likely acknowledges they need a center. They have the 13th pick. They are probably thinking they can wait and see if they can get either Duren or Mark Williams at 13. I don't imagine both of them gone, but I suppose there's a chance. Big picture, as others have said, we are likely projecting too much on their need for Yak. Maybe Borrego would have been one to speak well on Yak's behalf or whatever, but he's gone, and I don't think the non-initiated are dying to get Yak on their team, especially for what may be a one year rental if they don't want to pay a big raise, either.

[Kevin]

Jak could be more valuable with a contender than a rebuilding team is the point. It would take a couple more years, even with a great draft before our young core can be a contender. So the timeline wise, it’s best to move Poeltl for Centers with higher upsides like Duren or Williams.

And not to burst your bubble, Jak has reached his ceiling. I doubt he improves a whole lot, maybe a little. He just doesn’t have the motor or desire because he’s been in the league for how many years??? And he’s barely have consistent reliable offense. I say cash it out while ahead.

Jak has reached his ceiling as a good proven starter. Who knows if Williams or Duden reach this point and even if they do how long will it take them to there?

[The Truth #6]

Jak has reached his ceiling as a good proven starter. Who knows if Williams or Duden reach this point and even if they do how long will it take them to there?

I agree. Let's hope the CHA GM spends a lot of time on Spurs Talk and is reading this thread as we speak.

[John B]

I agree. Let's hope the CHA GM spends a lot of time on Spurs Talk and is reading this thread as we speak.

Nah.. Jak is awesome, freakish athlete. Top 10 center. 100% motor.

[exstatic]

Lamelo wants to throw alley oops to somebody. The GM likely acknowledges they need a center. They have the 13th pick. They are probably thinking they can wait and see if they can get either Duren or Mark Williams at 13. I don't imagine both of them gone, but I suppose there's a chance. Big picture, as others have said, we are likely projecting too much on their need for Yak. Maybe Borrego would have been one to speak well on Yak's behalf or whatever, but he's gone, and I don't think the non-initiated are dying to get Yak on their team, especially for what may be a one year rental if they don't want to pay a big raise, either.

There are plenty of guys on that team that can go get an oop. They need a guy who can set world class screens, switch, and anchor their defense, which was 25th in Drating last year. They’re not going anywhere until they fix that. The plain truth is that if you’re not a top draft pick, andNBA darling, you don’t get calls until like year three. That’s two wasted years of LaMelos talents.

[John B]

There are plenty of guys on that team that can go get an oop. They need a guy who can set world class screens, switch, and anchor their defense, which was 25th in Drating last year. They’re not going anywhere until they fix that. The plain truth is that if you’re not a top draft pick, andNBA darling, you don’t get calls until like year three. That’s two wasted years of LaMelos talents.

I do agree. Jak is a great screener and rolls well to the basket. With LaMelo as one of the best dishing, Jak’s game will benefit a lot. There’s an argument there that CHA could be better with Jak NOW than either Duren or Williams.

[Ocotillo]

As Ex has said a handful of times, Charlotte is not the only team with an interest in Jak. Toronto (who knows him more intimately than other teams) may be interested too. If they are shopping OG, may be a package there worth looking at. Draft Duren or Williams and while they won't have Jak's productivity next season, they hopefully grow into something.

[TD 21]

If the Hornets supposedly offered Washington Jr. and Jones for Poeltl, then it stands to reason they'd be willing to do Washington Jr and one of their 1sts for Poeltl and one of the Spurs lesser 1sts.

Besides, they're not a lock to get Duren or Williams. I doubt the Spurs draft the latter at 9, but they could and the Knicks could go with the former at 11.

[CGD]

As Ex has said a handful of times, Charlotte is not the only team with an interest in Jak. Toronto (who knows him more intimately than other teams) may be interested too. If they are shopping OG, may be a package there worth looking at. Draft Duren or Williams and while they won't have Jak's productivity next season, they hopefully grow into something.

What could we get from CHI for a Jakob extend and trade for Vuc’s expiring? Obviously they’d need to entice us.

[Mr. Body]

As Ex has said a handful of times, Charlotte is not the only team with an interest in Jak. Toronto (who knows him more intimately than other teams) may be interested too. If they are shopping OG, may be a package there worth looking at. Draft Duren or Williams and while they won't have Jak's productivity next season, they hopefully grow into something.

We DON'T know if Charlotte is actually interested in Poeltl.

We DO know that Toronto is interested Poeltl.

[BackHome]

Yeah if I am Toronto I am trying to get Jakob because of the following:
1. They know him all ready so they know his work ethic and abilities
2. He fits an immediate need as he is good center who fits in with the team
3. He would probably sign back with them unlike a lot of American players
4. I think even Jakob would like to go back to Toronto

One question is what team do you think can give us the better trade Toronto or Charlotte?

[CGD]

Yeah if I am Toronto I am trying to get Jakob because of the following:
1. They know him all ready so they know his work ethic and abilities
2. He fits an immediate need as he is good center who fits in with the team
3. He would probably sign back with them unlike a lot of American players
4. I think even Jakob would like to go back to Toronto

One question is what team do you think can give us the better trade Toronto or Charlotte?

Or will Chicago part with Pat Williams for Jak?

[Mr. Body]

Yeah if I am Toronto I am trying to get Jakob because of the following:
1. They know him all ready so they know his work ethic and abilities
2. He fits an immediate need as he is good center who fits in with the team
3. He would probably sign back with them unlike a lot of American players
4. I think even Jakob would like to go back to Toronto

One question is what team do you think can give us the better trade Toronto or Charlotte?

Poeltl is a better player now than when he left. Not simply because he's older, but because he's turned into more of an offensive hub. Would be interesting to see him work with Scottie Barnes and Co. His fit with Charlotte isn't the same.

[Thomas82]

We DON'T know if Charlotte is actually interested in Poeltl.

We DO know that Toronto is interested Poeltl.

Charlotte might be forced to make a deal now, especially with Montrezl Harrell facing felony charges for drug trafficking and could possibly do some time.

[Mr. Body]

Charlotte might be forced to make a deal now, especially with Montrezl Harrell facing felony charges for drug trafficking and could possibly do some time.

God damn, and he's my dealer.

[rankingtear]

We DON'T know if Charlotte is actually interested in Poeltl.

We DO know that Toronto is interested Poeltl.

I recall timvp said CHA and NO had poison pill mid-level offer for Jakob in 2020. Jake Fischer confirmed that Cha was one of the teams interested. Hoopshype detailed the package.

[Mr. Body]

I recall timvp said CHA and NO had poison pill mid-level offer for Jakob in 2020. Jake Fischer confirmed that Cha was one of the teams interested. Hoopshype detailed the package.

Yeah, just reporting some 'rumors.'

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/02/fischers-latest-nuggets-fox-poeltl-brunson-buyouts.html

[Thomas82]

I recall timvp said CHA and NO had poison pill mid-level offer for Jakob in 2020. Jake Fischer confirmed that Cha was one of the teams interested. Hoopshype detailed the package.

Well, with Herrell being in trouble with the law, their already thin frontcourt might be taking a big hit. The Hornets might have no choice but to revisit this trade.

[exstatic]

Yeah, just reporting some 'rumors.'

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/02/fischers-latest-nuggets-fox-poeltl-brunson-buyouts.html

You linked an article from this year, but the post you quoted was about Jack’s free agency in 2020. Poison pills are a facet of FA, not trades.

[JPB]

God damn, and he's my dealer.

Tell me about it, couldn't get my fix today.

[JPB]

Charlotte might be forced to make a deal now, especially with Montrezl Harrell facing felony charges for drug trafficking and could possibly do some time.

Jak isn't the only center in the NBA, specially one year away for cashing in.

[mo7888]

Jak isn't the only center in the NBA, specially one year away for cashing in.

What other C's do you think they could target? Mitchell Robinson?

[rankingtear]

What other C's do you think they could target? Mitchell Robinson?

Myles Turner

[mo7888]

Myles Turner

That'll cost them more but, they could if they want to pay that much..

[Degoat]

What other C's do you think they could target? Mitchell Robinson?

There’s a lot tbh Myles Turner, Mo Bamba, Christian Wood, Nikola Vucievic, Zubac, Nurkic, Robinson, Jalen Smith, probably a few others too

[The Truth #6]

Sounds like CHA may try to draft either Duren or Mark Williams at #13; I don't think that's changed, though I could see other teams pumping up these two players in the hopes that CHA will make a trade, I suppose. Hard to say with all the inherent BS before the draft.

[BackHome]

Turner is going to cost $$ to sign and Christian Wood is a head case how many teams have let him go for a reason and Mo Bamba is a very good backup center.

[BatManu20]

Duren won’t be a Spur, but pretty wild that he doesn’t turn 19 til November. He’s def a physical specimen. Maybe the most chiseled arms since D-Rob tbh.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUqrK1zWIAAsbFd?format=jpg&name=large

[BatManu20]

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[tim_duncan_fan]

I wavered for a bit, but I am confident again unless he disses us in an interview like a certain 2-guard prospect.

Size. Athleticism. Potential. Not a dummy. Duren's the pick.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc8KPLMD4gQ&ab_channel=PortlandTrailBlazers

[slick'81]

I wavered for a bit, but I am confident again unless he disses us in an interview like a certain 2-guard prospect.

Size. Athleticism. Potential. Not a dummy. Duren's the pick.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc8KPLMD4gQ&ab_channel=PortlandTrailBlazers

jesus, dude even kinda looks like david minus the dreads

[tim_duncan_fan]

Whoa he does kinda. Weird lol

[emanueldavidginobili]

Nice little thread on Duren.
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[rascal]

jesus, dude even kinda looks like david minus the dreads

Now, the spurs just need to find a Duncan lookalike.

[BackHome]

Dieng? I get Duncan vibes watching him tbh

[BatManu20]

Lol PATFO must’ve told him to keep his mouth shut :lol

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[slick'81]

Lol PATFO must’ve told him to keep his mouth shut :lol

1538940463348076549

havent you heard bro? Spurs shouldnt take a center:lol

[rankingtear]

Inconsistent motor is a big red flag for centers.

[JPB]

Inconsistent motor is a big red flag for centers.

Much less than guars or wings actually. And I'm not sure where that inconsistent motor thing is coming from anyway.. Didn't hear that about him. he's a pure athlet with a lot of energy.

[rankingtear]

Much less than guars or wings actually. And I'm not sure where that inconsistent motor thing is coming from anyway.. Didn't hear that about him. he's a pure athlet with a lot of energy.

Centers always looks like they have a high motor because they are involved in most actions. ESPN,SI mocks mention his motor as well as I think the stadium with Jeff Goodman.

[Uriel]

Lol PATFO must’ve told him to keep his mouth shut :lol

1538940463348076549
Holy shit it’s the same with Vassell :lol

[Uriel]

All signs point to Jalen Duren being the pick. From Larry Brown advising the team to draft him to the Spurs being widely regarded to want to draft a center to the team asking Duren not to reveal his workout with them.

[KingKev]

DJ needs a lob threat like Duren. I’d like to be entertained on the way to another 30 win season. Not sure he is the pick at 9 but doubt he is available at 20 so if we can draft Primo a year early and probably an entire round expedited, Duren at 9 is easily justified.

[The Truth #6]

It’s odd but possible that the Spurs don’t want a power forward and therefore a center could be their goal, I suppose. Whereas Toronto wants 3.5 type players, the Spurs are like, let’s get a one strong interior presence, then fill up the rest of the team with shooting guards who can competently share the ball. In this scenario, Duren would need to be a good passer. Do Duren fans think he can do that?

[mo7888]

It’s odd but possible that the Spurs don’t want a power forward and therefore a center could be their goal, I suppose. Whereas Toronto wants 3.5 type players, the Spurs are like, let’s get a one strong interior presence, then fill up the rest of the team with shooting guards who can competently share the ball. In this scenario, Duren would need to be a good passer. Do Duren fans think he can do that?

I think he can be an adequate passer but he won't be as good as Poeltl in that department..

[Atl Spur]

DJ needs a lob threat like Duren. I’d like to be entertained on the way to another 30 win season. Not sure he is the pick at 9 but doubt he is available at 20 so if we can draft Primo a year early and probably an entire round expedited, Duren at 9 is easily justified.

You just going to die on that Primo hill I see:) I’m trying to save you but you don’t wanna be saved!

[exstatic]

It’s odd but possible that the Spurs don’t want a power forward and therefore a center could be their goal, I suppose. Whereas Toronto wants 3.5 type players, the Spurs are like, let’s get a one strong interior presence, then fill up the rest of the team with shooting guards who can competently share the ball. In this scenario, Duren would need to be a good passer. Do Duren fans think he can do that?
Unless you consider Sochan a PF, they all seem to be pretty far above or below #9 in value. We can get one in FA.

Some analyses I’ve read of Duren says he has passing ability, but that Memphis offense wasn’t run that way.

[SAGirl]

I am on board with this pick. Have changed my view and gone on explaining elsewhere. I didn't even look at him early. I wouldn't predict they would draft a center, and was personally in no urgency to trade Jakob either... but over time I have changed my view. I'd be excited about this pick.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I think they asked him about shooting/scoring in that Portland video I posted and it was basically just like nobody at school was asking him to do that but it's something he thinks he has. I think his form is good enough to be workable, but I am pipedreaming slightly too. I mean the potential is there for scoring. He's young enough but conversely speaks well enough for me to think he is about his business and growing his game.

Of note: The Portland media asked him who he worked out with and his answer was not "I don't think I can disclose that information."

[Dverde]

I don’t think it’ll be him unless some others are off the board. Spurs would rather develop their big men lower in the draft than draft them this high. Sadly the NBA Center is more like the RB in NFL now…. You don’t want to get stuck overpaying for them.

[Chomag]

I'm still team Sharpe but I gotta say that I'm warming up to Duran . I think I would be pretty cool with it but that's only if FO is actively shopping Poetle around this season.

It might hurt in a year or two if Sharpe becomes a franchise talent but those are the risks.

[SAGirl]

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[John B]

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I’m getting that Adebayo vibes.

But I wouldn’t be surprised if PATFO is working on getting Duren and another lottery pick.

I haven’t been a fan of Wright with Samanic, Primo. But he started to win me back last trade deadline. But I want to be convinced more that our FO is the envy of the league as it has been in the past.

[PhantomDashCam]

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So as speculated by some posters here, not getting past OKC at #12 (with a still a potential trade up scenario in play)...

[Mr. Body]

CHA will have to be happy with M. Williams.

[mystargtr34]

Sochan and Duren are the two I'd be excited with for the 9 pick and have felt this way a while. I like Keegan Murray and Mathurin too but they'll go 4-6 range imo. Not a huge fan of Davis or Daniels and definitely don't want Dieng. Would rather take Eason over all three of these guys.

[InRareForm]

Damn we should have drafted Dwight 2.0

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[rascal]

Damn we should have drafted Dwight 2.0

RBehd5JB_-c

But everyone wanted Sochan

[Vince Carter's ankle]

But everyone wanted Sochan
Because it's not 1972 when you started watching the NBA.

[rascal]

Because it's not 1972 when you started watching the NBA.

Try 1969/1970

[objective]

TIRED: youth with box score stat production

WIRED: 'high iq' charming youth without any production

[poopbox]

I liked Duren but Sochan expected jack of all trades master of none role is going to be more useful goin forward.

Really the number one reason that I was so high on Duren is that he wasn't Poeltl :lol

[rankingtear]

Pretty good for a backup center.