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CosmicCowboy
04-19-2022, 06:30 PM
Appealing the removal of the mask mandate on public transportation. :lol How tone deaf can he be? People on airlines were unanimously cheering on their flights and yanking off their masks as soon as it was announced.

Thread
04-19-2022, 06:32 PM
Appealing the removal of the mask mandate on public transportation. :lol How tone deaf can he be? People on airlines were unanimously cheering on their flights and yanking off their masks as soon as it was announced.

He's got a judge all lined up.

daboom1
04-19-2022, 06:50 PM
https://i.ibb.co/PF5RH2X/20220419-184938.jpg

Ef-man
04-19-2022, 07:25 PM
Appealing the removal of the mask mandate on public transportation. :lol How tone deaf can he be? People on airlines were unanimously cheering on their flights and yanking off their masks as soon as it was announced.

So you think the pandemic is over?

DarrinS
04-19-2022, 07:52 PM
https://i.ibb.co/PF5RH2X/20220419-184938.jpg


:lmao :lmao :lmao

DarrinS
04-19-2022, 07:57 PM
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ChumpDumper
04-19-2022, 09:37 PM
:lmao radio hosts

Dirks_Finale
04-19-2022, 09:59 PM
:lol



https://i.ibb.co/PF5RH2X/20220419-184938.jpg

Winehole23
04-19-2022, 10:58 PM
Biden is not directly appealing, he is merely asking CDC Chief Walensky, et al, whether appealing to the Supreme Court is a matter of public health. I think we all know where the CDC will end up on this.

Biden making the appeal conditional on the say so of others, projects his preferred role: hands off!


The Biden administration late Tuesday said it will appeal a federal judge’s decision striking down a mask mandate for public transportation if the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention deem the mandate necessary for public health.https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/19/justice-department-punts-mask-ruling-appeal-to-cdc-00026466

ElNono
04-19-2022, 11:37 PM
https://i.ibb.co/PF5RH2X/20220419-184938.jpg

Always wondered what they did with conservatards pulling a tantrum on the plane for wearing a stupid mask :lol

Thread
04-20-2022, 12:16 AM
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/04/918/516/cartoon-041922.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

Isitjustme?
04-20-2022, 01:38 AM
Biden is not directly appealing, he is merely asking CDC Chief Walensky, et al, whether appealing to the Supreme Court is a matter of public health. I think we all know where the CDC will end up on this.

Biden making the appeal conditional on the say so of others, projects his preferred role: hands off!

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/19/justice-department-punts-mask-ruling-appeal-to-cdc-00026466

If he tried to do anything he'll be overruled by the conservative Supreme Court. You want him to take it there purely, for what..performative reasons? I'm confused here.

Winehole23
04-20-2022, 08:19 AM
If he tried to do anything he'll be overruled by the conservative Supreme Court. You want him to take it there purely, for what..performative reasons? I'm confused here.It's because you're trying to read my mind. You shouldn't do that.

I don't think the Biden Administration is going to appeal. I disagree with you btw that the Supreme Court would be a rubber stamp for the bad ruling, they've upheld state and local mandates many times, the law clearly gives the government power to protect life during a pandemic. If the state can't implement cheap, minimally intrusive measures like masking, what does it really have the power to do?

I think blaming conservatives for Biden and the Democrats' decision to cop out on public health is a deflection and I think that decision is democidal. People will die because Biden decided not to fight a bad ruling. That may look like Biden playing a shrewd game to some, to others it might look like Biden turning his back on people he promised to protect.

Sometimes you challenge knowing you'll lose to lay a marker for the future. Walking away from fights because you know you're just going to lose anyway might be the way of wisdom, but it's also the way of the coward. Standing and fighting shows people who you care about and what you will fight for. It can be pragmatic information in addition to being just "virtue signalling."

Will Hunting
04-20-2022, 08:21 AM
There's no way to spin Biden's decision to appeal the ruling on mask mandates - it's insanely stupid and political suicide.

Will Hunting
04-20-2022, 08:24 AM
He's got a judge all lined up.
It's the 11th circuit that'll be hearing the appeal, 2nd most conservative circuit in the country.

He has no idea what he's doing, he just has morons in his administration who have no connection with what the median American wants or thinks.

Will Hunting
04-20-2022, 08:24 AM
Biden is not directly appealing, he is merely asking CDC Chief Walensky, et al, whether appealing to the Supreme Court is a matter of public health. I think we all know where the CDC will end up on this.

Biden making the appeal conditional on the say so of others, projects his preferred role: hands off!

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/19/justice-department-punts-mask-ruling-appeal-to-cdc-00026466
You don't actually think the median voter is going to recognize or appreciate this nuance, do you?

Will Hunting
04-20-2022, 08:26 AM
If he tried to do anything he'll be overruled by the conservative Supreme Court. You want him to take it there purely, for what..performative reasons? I'm confused here.
SCOTUS won't touch this, William Pryor (the 11th circuit Chief Judge) will assign judges to this case that he knows will uphold the district court ruling and SCOTUS will just let that ruling sit as the final ruling.

Winehole23
04-20-2022, 08:39 AM
There's no way to spin Biden's decision to appeal the ruling on mask mandates - it's insanely stupid and political suicide.sure there is, if Walensky says masking isn't a public health priority, there's no appeal.

Winehole23
04-20-2022, 08:40 AM
You don't actually think the median voter is going to recognize or appreciate this nuance, do you?no, but if there's actually no appeal, there's actually no appeal.

Will Hunting
04-20-2022, 08:40 AM
sure there is, if Walensky says masking isn't a public health priority, there's no appeal.
So then when that happens, the obvious question is why did Biden let the mandate stay in place so long? If it isn't a public safety priority then unwinding the mask mandate shouldn't have required court intervention.

Winehole23
04-20-2022, 08:41 AM
So then when that happens, the obvious question is why did Biden let the mandate stay in place so long? If it isn't a public safety priority then unwinding the mask mandate shouldn't have required court intervention.Totally agree, the Biden Administration's messaging and policies have been incoherent the whole way.

I don't disagree that pandering to the political rubes -- er, median voter-- on COVID is indispensable, but doing so in a way that is indistinguishable from Republicans might be a lost opportunity. Political cynicism by major parties turns off voters too.

Winehole23
04-20-2022, 09:15 AM
declaring masks off in the teeth of Delta was a bad call.

I guess we'll just do it again and see what happens this time.

Winehole23
04-20-2022, 09:23 AM
whoever decided that it was in the US national interest to be a global reservoir for COVID, it'd like to have a word with them.

Dirks_Finale
04-20-2022, 09:25 AM
declaring masks off in the teeth of Delta was a bad call.

I guess we'll just do it again and see what happens this time.

Masks poll worse than Kamala's weird neck.

Like 75% of the country stop caring quite some time ago and want to get on with life and just live with Covid. So yeah, we will have to see what happens, but even a half hearted appeal by Biden is the wrong answer here.

Winehole23
04-20-2022, 09:29 AM
Masks poll worse than Kamala's weird neck.that's not my impression


A Harris poll (https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2022/04/06/survey-6-out-of-10-americans-want-mask-mandate/?sh=164aeac97d31) conducted April 1-3 found (https://theharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Data-Tables-Wave-110.pdf) 60% wanted the transportation mask mandate to be extended, including 32% who strongly supported it versus only 21% who strongly opposed it.


Morning Consult polling (https://morningconsult.com/smart-journey-tracker/#section-60) conducted in March similarly found 60% wanted travel brands to require customers to wear masks, while 80% wanted them to mandate masks for employees.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2022/04/19/federal-mask-mandates-for-airplanes-transportation-dropped-but-americans-seem-to-want-them-polls-suggest/

Winehole23
04-20-2022, 09:36 AM
the extreme lefties at WaPo have spoken

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/04/19/cdc-mask-mandate-flight-airplanes-transportation-had-to-go/

Winehole23
04-20-2022, 09:45 AM
that's not my impression


https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2022/04/19/federal-mask-mandates-for-airplanes-transportation-dropped-but-americans-seem-to-want-them-polls-suggest/in this more recent poll, support drops off




Currently, 36% support businesses requiring customers to show proof of vaccination before being allowed into stores or restaurants. This is down from 51% in early February, when we first asked.
Fewer also now support their local school district requiring everyone in schools to wear masks (51%, down from 65-70% last fall when the school year started).
The number of Americans who support their state or local government requiring masks in all public places has also dipped below 50% for the first time – now, 44% support such a requirement, down from 50% last month and 67% at the beginning of the year (during the height of the Omicron variant).
One exception to this rule is the public’s view of requirements for healthcare workers. Two-thirds (65%) support requiring all people in a healthcare setting to be vaccinated against COVID-19. This number has not changed over the past few months, possibly indicating the public holds healthcare workers to a different standard than they do the broader population.


https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/axios-ipsos-coronavirus-index

Dirks_Finale
04-20-2022, 12:19 PM
that's not my impression


https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2022/04/19/federal-mask-mandates-for-airplanes-transportation-dropped-but-americans-seem-to-want-them-polls-suggest/

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/3265376-few-americans-now-describe-covid-as-crisis-poll/


Americans’ overall support of mask mandates has likewise fallen. At the beginning of the year, 67 percent of the nation supported government required facial coverings. Now, around 44 percent agree with the mandates.

I think a majority of those actually wanting masks on planes are uninformed. The air is filtered and planes are not super spreaders. They are basing this off of optics and not sound data.

SpursforSix
04-20-2022, 12:22 PM
https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/3265376-few-americans-now-describe-covid-as-crisis-poll/
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I think a majority of those actually wanting masks on planes are uninformed. The air is filtered and planes are not super spreaders. They are basing this off of optics and not sound data.

Do you have any support for that? If you're in a middle seat, you have 8 people around you within a pretty small radius. Not to mention walking down the aisle to go to the bathroom. I'm not sure the air is filtered quick enough to not worry about it.

CosmicCowboy
04-20-2022, 12:42 PM
Winehole, do you wear your mask when you drive by yourself? You seem like one of those guys.

Winehole23
04-20-2022, 12:53 PM
Winehole, do you wear your mask when you drive by yourself? You seem like one of those guys.why would I do that? :lol

DMC
04-20-2022, 12:57 PM
There's no way to spin Biden's decision to appeal the ruling on mask mandates - it's insanely stupid and political suicide.

You heavily underestimate the effort of this forum tbh

ElNono
04-20-2022, 01:07 PM
There's no way to spin Biden's decision to appeal the ruling on mask mandates - it's insanely stupid and political suicide.

Old Joe doesn't give a fuck. He figured he might not even be around by then...

Blake
04-20-2022, 01:17 PM
Winehole, do you wear your mask when you drive by yourself? You seem like one of those guys.

What a retarded attempt at a cutdown :lol

DMC
04-20-2022, 01:21 PM
Blake always looking for a fight but then cowers when one develops :lol

Trainwreck2100
04-20-2022, 01:24 PM
This shit has to be appealed not for this pandemic but any one that comes after.

ChumpDumper
04-20-2022, 01:29 PM
Blake always looking for a fight but then cowers when one develops :lol

The best part is you're being dead serious while hiding from multiple posters.

T:lolugh guy!

Blake
04-20-2022, 01:31 PM
Blake always looking for a fight but then cowers when one develops :lol

Lol what fight?

CosmicCowboy
04-20-2022, 01:52 PM
Blake always looking for a fight but then cowers when one develops :lol

I usually just try to ignore that broken little bitch.

Blake
04-20-2022, 01:54 PM
I usually just try to ignore that broken little bitch.

Will DMC call CC out for cowering here?


:lol we all know the answer

ChumpDumper
04-20-2022, 01:55 PM
SOMETHING SOMETHING SANCHO SOMETHING

Winehole23
04-20-2022, 01:55 PM
What decision to appeal? :lol

Walensky waved limp wristedly at personal choice, saying that she personally thinks everyone who boards a plane should wear a mask.

Is that a ruling duly rendered by the CDC to the president determining that continuing to mask up during a respiratory pandemic is a public health priority? Seems not.

Looks like board conservatives got startled by their own shadows. Again.

Winehole23
04-20-2022, 02:00 PM
lol continuing to complain about Biden, who has held the progressives at bay and given deniers, dedicated minimers and open COVID cheerleaders everything they want so far.

Spurminator
04-20-2022, 02:33 PM
The timing of this is bad for Biden because, as I understand it, the decision isn't just that the mask mandates should be lifted now, it's that the President doesn't have the authority to call for a mask mandate. That should absolutely be appealed, but to do so now looks like you're calling for the current mandate to continue.

If they'd lifted the mandate weeks ago like they probably should have, this doesn't have the same easy headlines and public misunderstanding. Extending the mask mandate into May to "assess" a new variant was a political softball for Republicans.

DMC
04-20-2022, 02:39 PM
https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/3265376-few-americans-now-describe-covid-as-crisis-poll/
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I think a majority of those actually wanting masks on planes are uninformed. The air is filtered and planes are not super spreaders. They are basing this off of optics and not sound data.

Placebo

daboom1
04-20-2022, 02:44 PM
I usually just try to ignore that broken little bitch.

:tu

DMC
04-20-2022, 02:46 PM
Will DMC call CC out for cowering here?


:lol we all know the answer

You're the weakest poster here by far. Why would anyone want to engage you?

Blake
04-20-2022, 03:41 PM
Will DMC call CC out for cowering here?


:lol we all know the answer


You're the weakest poster here by far. Why would anyone want to engage you?

I don't blame you guys. You all end up angry and reverting back to personal smack when shown up. I mean, look how frustrated CosmicCoward is. You can't be far behind.

ChumpDumper
04-20-2022, 03:58 PM
:lol DMC engages with Blake to ask why anyone would engage with him.

Trainwreck2100
04-20-2022, 04:15 PM
This bitch said all the CDC can do is clean, and CC's like :lol why is Biden arguing that?

CosmicCowboy
04-20-2022, 05:35 PM
I don't blame you guys. You all end up angry and reverting back to personal smack when shown up. I mean, look how frustrated CosmicCoward is. You can't be far behind.

Thats some funny shit right there. :lol That pitiful little bitch hasn't won anything except #1 Cuck on Spurstalk.

boutons_deux
04-20-2022, 05:51 PM
A judge making Public Health decisions is fucking perverse, America is fucked and unfuckable

DarrinS
04-20-2022, 06:01 PM
A judge making Public Health decisions is fucking perverse, America is fucked and unfuckable

You can still wear a mask.

Most people I see wearing them have the useless face decoration variety.

koriwhat
04-20-2022, 06:10 PM
A judge making Public Health decisions is fucking perverse, America is fucked and unfuckable

You're stupid as fuck bro and so is your retarded ass tag line. Stay big mad, keep crying, and mask up you big pussy!

koriwhat
04-20-2022, 06:11 PM
Thats some funny shit right there. :lol That pitiful little bitch hasn't won anything except #1 Cuck on Spurstalk.

He's big mad because none of us give af about his cuckold tears.

CosmicCowboy
04-20-2022, 06:18 PM
You can still wear a mask.

Most people I see wearing them have the useless face decoration variety.

This is true. My office manager wears one of those shitty disposable paper masks because "some people here aren't vaccinated" like being vaccinated is the golden ticket to immunity.

Winehole23
04-20-2022, 06:31 PM
You can still wear a mask.

Most people I see wearing them have the useless face decoration variety.gaiters are more or less useless, but cloth masks and surgical masks do provide *some* protection, especially so if others are also masked.

https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F b011d539-a6e4-4258-9f56-0d610e0e2875_1125x1173.jpeg

Winehole23
04-20-2022, 06:43 PM
This bitch said all the CDC can do is clean, and CC's like :lol why is Biden arguing that?Sanitation means removing trash and disinfecting surfaces, the CDC isn't actually allowed to mitigate disease. Few people were aware of that before this ruling.

Winehole23
04-20-2022, 06:49 PM
You can still wear a mask.

Most people I see wearing them have the useless face decoration variety.Pretty soon your side will start banning masks, that's the natural progression.

Conservative hurt feelings about ugly COVID masks must be assuaged; failing that, others must suffer.

Isitjustme?
04-20-2022, 07:26 PM
The timing of this is bad for Biden because, as I understand it, the decision isn't just that the mask mandates should be lifted now, it's that the President doesn't have the authority to call for a mask mandate. That should absolutely be appealed, but to do so now looks like you're calling for the current mandate to continue.


If its appealed the conservative courts ruling on it will just set precedent that can be used in the future. I mean he's not appealing it to some 6-3 leftwing court or something.

Isitjustme?
04-20-2022, 07:33 PM
It's the 11th circuit that'll be hearing the appeal, 2nd most conservative circuit in the country.

He has no idea what he's doing, he just has morons in his administration who have no connection with what the median American wants or thinks.

I guess. I would not have appealed partially as its unpopular now but mainly as its pointless grandstanding given the likelihood it would be turned over. Also, he ran on restoring expertise and so letting the CDC make decisions he could plausibly say he is listening to the experts.

DarrinS
04-20-2022, 07:33 PM
Pretty soon your side will start banning masks, that's the natural progression.

Conservative hurt feelings about ugly COVID masks must be assuaged; failing that, others must suffer.

^ dumb

Winehole23
04-20-2022, 08:37 PM
^ dumbyou sure are, dumb Darrin

daboom1
04-21-2022, 05:26 AM
https://twitter.com/backtolife_2022/status/1516797730236084225?t

Winehole23
04-21-2022, 07:51 AM
No request for an emergency stay, looks like the pose of helplessness didn't work. The Biden Administration has appealed, as Will pointed out upstream, to the very conservative 11th Circuit court. Will thinks SCOTUS won't take it up after the 11th Circuit upholds, I think the underlying decision is so bad that it might not make it that far.

1516903496905338881

Thread
04-21-2022, 08:33 AM
A judge making Public Health decisions is fucking perverse, America is fucked and unfuckable


& light...1,017,093 Americans dead in the ground (and counting) for COVID...Joe "I will shut it down." Biden presiding.

Winehole23
04-21-2022, 09:17 AM
The received wisdom that masking is wildly unpopular is a misleading, mediagenic narrative.


A new quickfire poll put out by the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research shows that 56% of U.S. respondents said there should be requirements to wear a mask on planes, trains or other public transport. Less than a quarter of respondents prefer no requirements, while another 20% don’t give a damn either way.
https://gizmodo.com/despite-in-flight-celebrations-many-americans-would-pr-1848817256

Spurminator
04-21-2022, 09:45 AM
You can still wear a mask.

"You can still drive sober" after a court overturns drunk driving laws

Trill Clinton
04-21-2022, 10:13 AM
Conservatives still pissed off about masks:lol

daboom1
04-21-2022, 10:58 AM
https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1516859689342054409?t

Spurminator
04-21-2022, 11:43 AM
Conservatives still pissed off about masks:lol

Look I get not wanting to wear a mask, and I don't think they should be required at this time. But what blows my mind is the conservative hissy fits and belligerence over OTHER people wearing them. They still think masks are to protect the wearer.

It's just weird that the party of Christians is so hostile to the idea of people caring about other people.

DarrinS
04-21-2022, 11:44 AM
"You can still drive sober" after a court overturns drunk driving laws


^ Dumb

Spurminator
04-21-2022, 11:45 AM
^ Dumb

Nope. Just too confusing for your puny selfish brain.

Blake
04-21-2022, 11:48 AM
https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1516859689342054409?t

Oh ok

Blake
04-21-2022, 11:50 AM
Look I get not wanting to wear a mask, and I don't think they should be required at this time. But what blows my mind is the conservative hissy fits and belligerence over OTHER people wearing them. They still think masks are to protect the wearer.

It's just weird that the party of Christians is so hostile to the idea of people caring about other people.

2022 and some still can't wrap their head around that

Winehole23
04-21-2022, 02:19 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQyYOyPXIAkdV5d?format=jpg&name=large

Isitjustme?
04-21-2022, 09:45 PM
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04-21-2022, 09:45 PM
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DarrinS
04-21-2022, 10:15 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQyYOyPXIAkdV5d?format=jpg&name=large


Democrats can mask up forever, if they so choose

Allan Rowe vs Wade
04-21-2022, 10:22 PM
the only democrat who could lose to Trump in 2024 is biden

the only republican who could lose to biden in 2024 is Trump .... (and cruz ... and, well let's be honest they're not a real likeable party right now)

Thread
04-22-2022, 02:47 AM
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/04/918/516/cartoon-042122.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

Blake
04-22-2022, 11:46 AM
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/04/918/516/cartoon-042122.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

Biden administration scrambles to contain fallout from another border crisis
By Priscilla Alvarez, CNN
Updated 2:47 PM EDT, Wed September 22, 2021

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/22/politics/del-rio-border-biden/index.html

Blake
04-22-2022, 11:47 AM
Signs point to more economic turbulence as the war in Ukraine intensifies
Analysis by Maeve Reston, CNN
Updated 12:00 AM EDT, Wed April 20, 2022


https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/20/politics/biden-economic-turbulence-ukraine-war/index.html

Blake
04-22-2022, 11:49 AM
Federal investigation of Hunter Biden heats up
By Evan Perez and Katelyn Polantz, CNN
Updated 8:13 AM EDT, Wed March 30, 2022

Blake
04-22-2022, 11:50 AM
Florida releases 4 examples from math textbooks it rejected for public schools
By Jay Croft, CNN
Updated 9:45 AM EDT, Fri April 22, 2022

Blake
04-22-2022, 11:51 AM
Why rising crime isn't breaking through as a national issue
Analysis by Harry Enten, CNN
Updated 7:32 AM EST, Fri January 28, 2022

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/28/politics/crime-voters-dont-care-nationally/index.html

Blake
04-22-2022, 11:52 AM
Good cartoon. Spot on :tu

RandomGuy
04-25-2022, 03:44 AM
Good cartoon. Spot on :tu

Brainwashed cults are often astounded that other's don't share their beliefs.