What’s your top two free agent targets

[Atl Spur]

Jalen Smith & Malik Monk both acquired in sign & trades if possible. ( Dougie back to Indiana or Josh R. ) ( Lonnie to LA for 4/40 or 4/44 )

[KingKev]

Jalen Smith & Malik Monk both acquired in sign & trades if possible. ( Dougie back to Indiana or Josh R. ) ( Lonnie to LA for 4/40 or 4/44 )

LA can’t work that.

[Atl Spur]

LA can’t work that.

���� We can sign him out right then….. thanks for the correction

[pad300]

Assuming we don't jump into the top 4:

Deandre Ayton - put a max in front of him and try to negotiate it into an S&T with Poeltl and Richardson going to PHX.

Kyle Anderson - he's not going to get much more than the full MLE (if that), and he's probably the best 4 actually available (especially in a glue guy role).

[mo7888]

Jalen Smith & Malik Monk both acquired in sign & trades if possible. ( Dougie back to Indiana or Josh R. ) ( Lonnie to LA for 4/40 or 4/44 )

I'd be ok with those if they came cheap. I'd also be ok with Monk at a higher number if we were to trade for a win now player to pair with DJ. If we don't get a win now player either by trade or lottery luck (yes I realize there's a limit to how win now a rook can be even in the top 4) I'd probably prefer to use our space to facilitate deals and collect assets.

[BatManu20]

Bryn Forbes and Thaddeus Young.

[Leetonidas]

:lol these should be your last options not your first two

[Atl Spur]

:lol these should be your last options not your first two

These are mine ; who are your selections?

[duncan2150]

Ayton
Nurkic
J Smith
Miles Bridges

I don't like Monk, you have Walker already here for four years and who plays the same role.

[exstatic]

Jalen Smith & Malik Monk both acquired in sign & trades if possible. ( Dougie back to Indiana or Josh R. ) ( Lonnie to LA for 4/40 or 4/44 )

Jalen will have to be signed away from Indy. His contract is toxic to them, like it was to Phoenix, and has all the same limitations. He can only be signed or signed and traded for $4.7M. If he’s willing to play for that, they’ll keep him. Considering we paid 3/$21M for a guy with screws in his foot last year, Jalens market will be higher than that.

[montgod]

Ayton
Nurkic
J Smith
Miles Bridges

I don't like Monk, you have Walker already here for four years and who plays the same role.

Bridges is what Vassell will become/becoming so I don't see them looking at him as an option.

It will be interesting to see who they target for sure in Free agency. How their draft goes, will probably dictate that.

[R. DeMurre]

The Spurs have handled the payroll admirably, but unfortunately this year's crop of free agents just isn't too exciting. This might be a better seller's market than buyer's market.

[PhantomDashCam]

I’d absolutely look at loading up an offer sheet for Anfernee Simons.

[SAGirl]

As much as I loved Anderson and as good as he was as a complementary player last season, his injury to his shoulder has affected his shooting and because it’s an injury I don’t think that’s something he can get back, unless he rested a season like Kawhi and let that shoulder rest completely rehabbing only and then take rest games with no back to backs to avoid aggravating the injury…

ok that was an attempt at a joke. I feel like we need it. Guys take themselves and others too seriously here and forget we are fans and basketball is fun to chat and speculate about, though we may disagree often.

Ok back to Anderson, the one from last season yes, the one from this season where his shot is nowhere and he looks in pain again when shooting no. He’s not what the Spurs need in current situation.

[XDT76]

Jalen will have to be signed away from Indy. His contract is toxic to them, like it was to Phoenix, and has all the same limitations. He can only be signed or signed and traded for $4.7M. If he’s willing to play for that, they’ll keep him. Considering we paid 3/$21M for a guy with screws in his foot last year, Jalens market will be higher than that.

I was trying to find info on whether if J Smith is sign and trade, can it be done above the $4.7M. however there does not seems to have a statement on this. I think a fair contract for him now is probably $8 to $10M. There might be team willing to pay him higher.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Malik Monk/ one of the Martin twins (Cody/Caleb) can be cheap but useful role playing free agent signings. And if they dont land a good PF in the draft, they should take a flier on either Jalen Smith or Marvin Bagley.

[Seventyniner]

Isn't next year's free agent class supposed to be way better than this year's? If so, I could see the Spurs just running it back one more time and renting out cap space for assets again while getting the young players more seasoning. Maybe go after the big fish but please don't splurge on a non-star.

[Atl Spur]

I like Sochan at 9 as a sf/pf. Kessler or Kamagate later in the round 2 draft and stash prospects

[stnick2261]

I wouldn't want to sign anyone past a 1 year contract. There are a few names on this list that could better help us long-term

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2023/ufa/

[Atl Spur]

Some of you might be sleeping on malik�� Way better than Walker

[BatManu20]

LaVine is getting Maxed out by Chicago so he’s off the board. Monk or Jalen Brunson would probably be the next best options if Lonnie moves on. Dallas likely matches any offer for Brunson though.

[BatManu20]

I’d absolutely look at loading up an offer sheet for Anfernee Simons.

Same but Portland ain’t letting him go anywhere.

[Atl Spur]

Buy low sell high right? L.A had no idea Malik would snap like he did this year! We are in a unique position to grab him cheaply on a multi year contract; the Jalen situation is the perfect storm for us also����

[Ariel]

I wouldn't want to sign anyone past a 1 year contract. There are a few names on this list that could better help us long-term

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2023/ufa/
Most players in that list are pretty much unattainable, over the hill, or not that much to begin with. So if there's a real option now that makes sense (say, Jalen Smith), I wouldn't wait.

[PhantomDashCam]

Same but Portland ain’t letting him go anywhere.

Yeah agreed. Although it should be said, while unlikely, it’s hard to see Portland investing in Micro Backcourt 2.0 if Dame is staying.

If Dame does request a trade, maybe Portland wants to run the tank bank and load up on assets for the 2023 Wembanyama sweep stakes.

I always thought J. Rich would be a perfect backcourt partner for Dame too…

[stnick2261]

Most players in that list are pretty much unattainable, over the hill, or not that much to begin with. So if there's a real option now that makes sense (say, Jalen Smith), I wouldn't wait.

That's why I said "a few names" on the list.

The names on that list are better than the names this summer. But Jalen Smith won't be expensive enough to ruin the '23 Free Agency, so I'm all for it. Murray, a team loaded with solid role players, and cap space for a max contract might be enough to bring in someone really good.

[montgod]

Yeah agreed. Although it should be said, while unlikely, it’s hard to see Portland investing in Micro Backcourt 2.0 if Dame is staying.

If Dame does request a trade, maybe Portland wants to run the tank bank and load up on assets for the 2023 Wembanyama sweep stakes.

I always thought J. Rich would be a perfect backcourt partner for Dame too…

Yeah it looks like they are just duplicating what they had before with Dame/McCollum and now Dame/Simons. Cheaper at least but I don't see Rich going anywhere in his Patty Mills role ;)

[exstatic]

I was trying to find info on whether if J Smith is sign and trade, can it be done above the $4.7M. however there does not seems to have a statement on this. I think a fair contract for him now is probably $8 to $10M. There might be team willing to pay him higher.

I don’t want to dig for it now, but when he blew up in PHO whenAyton was out, one of the NBA analysts did the blow by blow of the effect of his non tender, and the bottom line is that the team holding his contract, now Indy, cannot in anyway benefit from his non tender. They cannot pay him or S&T him for more than $4.7M, even if they have the cap room to do so.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Isn't next year's free agent class supposed to be way better than this year's? If so, I could see the Spurs just running it back one more time and renting out cap space for assets again while getting the young players more seasoning. Maybe go after the big fish but please don't splurge on a non-star.

What would you think about trading Richardson, McDermott and Langford for Westbrook plus LA's 27 FRP unprotected and Washington's 28 SRP which LA owns. Depending on who else we sign this year and assuming we sign the draft choices we currently have we would have about $58 million in salaries ($50 million if we waive Collins) with a salary cap projected around $130 million. That includes the cap hold of around $11,600,000 for Keldon. We could sign 2 max players, then extend Keldon. I may be a few million off with cap holds for minimum number of players, but close.

[Atl Spur]

I don’t want to dig for it now, but when he blew up in PHO whenAyton was out, one of the NBA analysts did the blow by blow of the effect of his non tender, and the bottom line is that the team holding his contract, now Indy, cannot in anyway benefit from his non tender. They cannot pay him or S&T him for more than $4.7M, even if they have the cap room to do so.

I believe you are correct. Nevertheless we should poach him for a reasonable multi year contract

[Seventyniner]

I don’t want to dig for it now, but when he blew up in PHO whenAyton was out, one of the NBA analysts did the blow by blow of the effect of his non tender, and the bottom line is that the team holding his contract, now Indy, cannot in anyway benefit from his non tender. They cannot pay him or S&T him for more than $4.7M, even if they have the cap room to do so.

That makes me wonder even more why the Pacers traded for him. They got Phoenix's second-round pick in return, but #60 hardly seems worth locking yourself out of being able to sign Jalen Smith in free agency. Unless they just plain never wanted to keep him and actually wanted the #60 pick?

[R. DeMurre]

Yeah agreed. Although it should be said, while unlikely, it’s hard to see Portland investing in Micro Backcourt 2.0 if Dame is staying.



The whole undersized backcourt thing drives me crazy. When McCollum went to New Orleans and played PG beside bigger SGs he became extremely effective, rather than being an undersized SG next to a smaller PG. That experiment went on in Portland for 8 years. Utah's doing the same thing with Conley & Mitchell. It doesn't work like 99% of the time (if your goal is going deep into the playoffs), but some teams still keep trying it out. Sacramento is trying to pair Fox with a 6' Davion Mitchell.... I just don't get it.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Some of you might be sleeping on malik🙈 Way better than Walker


I think a lot of people are figuring out that Monk is probably a good FA target. Of course, that means a lot of other teams see it too. But the Lakers just aren't allowed to pay him as much as other teams - one of the quirks of the current structure. And the Spurs cap room makes them more able than most. It would have to be more than the MLE, to give him a financial motive, and I wouldn't mind of the Spurs paid a little more than that.

The Martin brothers would be pretty bargain-priced bench players. I liked Caleb better in college, and still do today. Pretend the Spurs are in the playoff next year, and Pop is doing is usual rotation-shortening. Would either of them see more than a couple of minutes a game in the post season? Probably not. They're both pretty steady, though, so maybe a bit more than that. Teams need a couple of steady but ho-hum guys who can fill in.

BatManu, I think Brunson would be a good choice, too. But I also agree that the Mavs are likely to match. I know some people think that DJ is the right PG, but I'd still rather have a natural PG at the point and slide Murray to the 2. I get the arguments the other way, but I do think Brunson would fit and make some things better.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Jalen Smith & Malik Monk both acquired in sign & trades if possible. ( Dougie back to Indiana or Josh R. ) ( Lonnie to LA for 4/40 or 4/44 )


Like others said, I think Smith is unlikely to happen, but I do like Monk a lot as a target.

I had thought I would be floating Marvin Bagley III this offseason as a cheap reclamation project with lots of potential. But he really caught on in Detroit, so he may be harder to acquire, and I wouldn't want to invest too much. Still, I think I would make a phone call.

[KobesAchilles]

Do we have to spend the cap money? I always forget between the sports which is the one you don't have to have like 90% of cap salary full at the start of the year. Whoever we get, i would want one year deals with everyone or two with a team option.

[Atl Spur]

I think a lot of people are figuring out that Monk is probably a good FA target. Of course, that means a lot of other teams see it too. But the Lakers just aren't allowed to pay him as much as other teams - one of the quirks of the current structure. And the Spurs cap room makes them more able than most. It would have to be more than the MLE, to give him a financial motive, and I wouldn't mind of the Spurs paid a little more than that.

The Martin brothers would be pretty bargain-priced bench players. I liked Caleb better in college, and still do today. Pretend the Spurs are in the playoff next year, and Pop is doing is usual rotation-shortening. Would either of them see more than a couple of minutes a game in the post season? Probably not. They're both pretty steady, though, so maybe a bit more than that. Teams need a couple of steady but ho-hum guys who can fill in.

BatManu, I think Brunson would be a good choice, too. But I also agree that the Mavs are likely to match. I know some people think that DJ is the right PG, but I'd still rather have a natural PG at the point and slide Murray to the 2. I get the arguments the other way, but I do think Brunson would fit and make some things better.

^i agree

[Atl Spur]

Like others said, I think Smith is unlikely to happen, but I do like Monk a lot as a target.

I had thought I would be floating Marvin Bagley III this offseason as a cheap reclamation project with lots of potential. But he really caught on in Detroit, so he may be harder to acquire, and I wouldn't want to invest too much. Still, I think I would make a phone call.

Why not smith? We can sign him outright can’t we?

[Leetonidas]

These are mine ; who are your selections?

Uh probably Lavine and Ayton. Admittedly a pipedream but I'd rather the Spurs make an attempt to pry one of them away

[exstatic]

Like others said, I think Smith is unlikely to happen, but I do like Monk a lot as a target.

I had thought I would be floating Marvin Bagley III this offseason as a cheap reclamation project with lots of potential. But he really caught on in Detroit, so he may be harder to acquire, and I wouldn't want to invest too much. Still, I think I would make a phone call.

Why do you think Smith won’t happen?

[exstatic]

What would you think about trading Richardson, McDermott and Langford for Westbrook plus LA's 27 FRP unprotected and Washington's 28 SRP which LA owns. Depending on who else we sign this year and assuming we sign the draft choices we currently have we would have about $58 million in salaries ($50 million if we waive Collins) with a salary cap projected around $130 million. That includes the cap hold of around $11,600,000 for Keldon. We could sign 2 max players, then extend Keldon. I may be a few million off with cap holds for minimum number of players, but close.

A FRP and SRP isn’t near enough to eat $47M in salary,let alone introducing his awful game and personality into the team.

[mystargtr34]

Lavine and Ayton.

Covington or Batum as cheaper options to fill some of the void at the 4-spot. Would still look to draft a 4 too.

[Ocotillo]

The whole undersized backcourt thing drives me crazy. When McCollum went to New Orleans and played PG beside bigger SGs he became extremely effective, rather than being an undersized SG next to a smaller PG. That experiment went on in Portland for 8 years. Utah's doing the same thing with Conley & Mitchell. It doesn't work like 99% of the time (if your goal is going deep into the playoffs), but some teams still keep trying it out. Sacramento is trying to pair Fox with a 6' Davion Mitchell.... I just don't get it.

I know they were not the starters but my mind flashed to Patty Mills and Bryn Forbes playing at the same time in the past.

[BatManu20]

Y’all are really in here talking about adding Westbrick to this team :lol

[Sugus]

Not a fan of throwing a max at either Lavine nor Ayton.

Both are extremely locked into their own, win-now, teams, and both poised for deservedly huge contracts with their respective teams (Ayton didn't sign his because he wanted the 5-year max, yet Suns offered only 4 years; but they'll insta-match any max sheet from other teams, since they in no way can afford to lose him). And of course Bulls won't let go of their main star and cog of their offense, no matter how badly they get spanked in this playoff round. DeRozan, in any case, would be the more likely one to go; Zach knows he'll get his max and has already spoken on it.

I think the Spurs' cap would be much better spent on smaller contracts to players looking to rehab their value, or build it at all (Jalen Smith is my #1 target, I've liked him since last years' draft and he showed promise this season when given the chance). Don't tie up money for the future, try to eat some bad salary for extra picks (definitely not Westbrook-level contracts, though, nothing that hinders the current group's play). Play it smart, hold your cards, wait until next offseason to see where the team is at before chasing any big tigers.

[exstatic]

Not a fan of throwing a max at either Lavine nor Ayton.

Both are extremely locked into their own, win-now, teams, and both poised for deservedly huge contracts with their respective teams (Ayton didn't sign his because he wanted the 5-year max, yet Suns offered only 4 years; but they'll insta-match any max sheet from other teams, since they in no way can afford to lose him). And of course Bulls won't let go of their main star and cog of their offense, no matter how badly they get spanked in this playoff round. DeRozan, in any case, would be the more likely one to go; Zach knows he'll get his max and has already spoken on it.

I think the Spurs' cap would be much better spent on smaller contracts to players looking to rehab their value, or build it at all (Jalen Smith is my #1 target, I've liked him since last years' draft and he showed promise this season when given the chance). Don't tie up money for the future, try to eat some bad salary for extra picks (definitely not Westbrook-level contracts, though, nothing that hinders the current group's play). Play it smart, hold your cards, wait until next offseason to see where the team is at before chasing any big tigers.

Smith, Monk, rent space to PHO to offload Saric for a FRP.

[scott]

Players who are UFA who I'd like to be brought into the team to some degree:

Lavine - Max deal. Prob won't happen.
TJ Warren - short term deal if it were cheap. Prob won't happen
Serge Ibaka - I just always liked this dude. Backup C. Doesn't fit the timeline, don't care. Would be a short term deal anyway.
Thomas Bryant - if we trade Jak, could this be a replacement?
Jalen Smith - been covered at length
Andre Drummond - same comment as Ibaka. Probably wouldn't play for what we would want to pay.
Mitchell Robinson - same comment as Thomas Bryant

[ZeusWillJudge]

Why not smith? We can sign him outright can’t we?


Why do you think Smith won’t happen?


They can, and I probably phrased that badly trying to be brief. And if I'm being honest, it sort of reflects bias more than objectivity. I think someone will vastly overpay for him, and I'm not 100% sold. He piled up a lot of his numbers on a team that was in lose-now mode.

No one called me on it, but that's exactly the argument against Bagley's end-of-season numbers in Detroit. Their situations are similar in a lot of ways, but if you just look at raw numbers Bagley could be the better value. Up until those 22 games with the Pacers, there's just not much to recommend Smith. Bagley actually put up pretty consistent numbers 5 years in a row, even if the number of games he played is a little iffy.

I should have said that, and I don't blame you guys for jumping on that statement.

[exstatic]

They can, and I probably phrased that badly trying to be brief. And if I'm being honest, it sort of reflects bias more than objectivity. I think someone will vastly overpay for him, and I'm not 100% sold. He piled up a lot of his numbers on a team that was in lose-now mode.

No one called me on it, but that's exactly the argument against Bagley's end-of-season numbers in Detroit. Their situations are similar in a lot of ways, but if you just look at raw numbers Bagley could be the better value. Up until those 22 games with the Pacers, there's just not much to recommend Smith. Bagley actually put up pretty consistent numbers 5 years in a row, even if the number of games he played is a little iffy.

I should have said that, and I don't blame you guys for jumping on that statement.

Smith put up good numbers in PHO, too, when Ayton was out on protocols. They’re not a bottom feeder. That’s what originally made people sit up and notice. It’s also probably what cost PHO the ability to re-sign him at a bargain.

[T Park]

Won’t happen but I’d still max out Ayton and force Phoenix’s hand. At worst you fuck their salary cap up for the future.

[XDT76]

Won’t happen but I’d still max out Ayton and force Phoenix’s hand. At worst you fuck their salary cap up for the future.

Not really a wise move on our side, in order to sign Ayton to the max we need to cancel all our non-guranteed contracts and then we would not be able to make a move for other FA. By the time Pho decided to match we might be in a shitty position. Unless we decided to go all in or top 4 lottery pick offering the MAX to a RFA is not a great choice.

[T Park]

Not really a wise move on our side, in order to sign Ayton to the max we need to cancel all our non-guranteed contracts and then we would not be able to make a move for other FA. By the time Pho decided to match we might be in a shitty position. Unless we decided to go all in or top 4 lottery pick offering the MAX to a RFA is not a great choice.

There’s no one else available.

They’d miss on nothing.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Smith put up good numbers in PHO, too, when Ayton was out on protocols. They’re not a bottom feeder. That’s what originally made people sit up and notice. It’s also probably what cost PHO the ability to re-sign him at a bargain.


There is some good basketball being talked here lately, so the last thing I want to do is argue just to be arguing. I'll seriously let you educate me if I'm mistaken, and I'll admit I didn't follow him as closely as I remember some of you doing when he was in Phoenix. I thought that most of those good games in Phoenix were against sort of doormat teams. And didn't Phoenix basically dump him, even after that? Or are you saying that they dumped him because they knew they were going to have to pay him and they're already stacked?

Do you have any explanation for how he went from being really disappointing to someone you guys (and a lot of others) are really excited about? At the very least I'm always skeptical of a guy who isn't motivated until he needs a contract.

[XDT76]

There’s no one else available.

They’d miss on nothing.

There is no one that we really need now, however if we dump all our non-guaranteed contracts to try and sign Ayton, we would need plenty especially 4 and 5.

[T Park]

There is some good basketball being talked here lately, so the last thing I want to do is argue just to be arguing. I'll seriously let you educate me if I'm mistaken, and I'll admit I didn't follow him as closely as I remember some of you doing when he was in Phoenix. I thought that most of those good games in Phoenix were against sort of doormat teams. And didn't Phoenix basically dump him, even after that? Or are you saying that they dumped him because they knew they were going to have to pay him and they're already stacked?

Do you have any explanation for how he went from being really disappointing to someone you guys (and a lot of others) are really excited about? At the very least I'm always skeptical of a guy who isn't motivated until he needs a contract.


Phoenix pretty much had to dump him for Pennie’s on the dollar because they declined his option. This whoever has his rights can’t give him shit for money.

[T Park]

There is no one that we really need now, however if we dump all our non-guaranteed contracts to try and sign Ayton, we would need plenty especially 4 and 5.


Nah. The non guaranteeds the spurs have are borderline wanting back anyways

[Atl Spur]

They can, and I probably phrased that badly trying to be brief. And if I'm being honest, it sort of reflects bias more than objectivity. I think someone will vastly overpay for him, and I'm not 100% sold. He piled up a lot of his numbers on a team that was in lose-now mode.

No one called me on it, but that's exactly the argument against Bagley's end-of-season numbers in Detroit. Their situations are similar in a lot of ways, but if you just look at raw numbers Bagley could be the better value. Up until those 22 games with the Pacers, there's just not much to recommend Smith. Bagley actually put up pretty consistent numbers 5 years in a row, even if the number of games he played is a little iffy.

I should have said that, and I don't blame you guys for jumping on that statement.

Hopefully we can nab him💪🏽

[poopbox]

1. Throw as much money at Ayton as you can

2. Trade for John Collins if they will take some combination of Poeltl, Doug, Lonnie, and Boston 1st round pick

3. Trade for Gobert if they will take the same deal for Collins

4. Throw some money at Mo Bamba

[SAGirl]

I remember when Jalen Smith was on the trade block, a few guys objected to the Spurs trading for him and it just made me think that had the Spurs wanted him, they could have also traded for him, but they passed up that opportunity. Nothing (so far)leads me to believe they want him. Weren’t some guys here saying he was a bust rah rah? I think he’s interesting but why not trade for him b4 when the Suns first started to try to trade him?

[XDT76]

I remember when Jalen Smith was on the trade block, a few guys objected to the Spurs trading for him and it just made me think that had the Spurs wanted him, they could have also traded for him, but they passed up that opportunity. Nothing (so far)leads me to believe they want him. Weren’t some guys here saying he was a bust rah rah? I think he’s interesting but why not trade for him b4 when the Suns first started to try to trade him?

Bcos Suns refused his team option. Anyone who are interested in him would not trade for him as any development done this year will be done for other teams. Anyone that take on him can only offer $4.8M to him next year, being a FA if he is useful he will get more than that.

Also the trade includes Dario Saric who is out for the season for tearing his ACL. His contract is for another year so if you take on him, you will be helping him to rehab and then again when well would be a UFA. Besides Saric is not a great player to begin with. All in all if we do trade it is to help Suns without any benefit to us.

[SAGirl]

I might have to dig those trade rumors up, but don’t really want to. I remember people didn’t want to give up Thad for him or some other reasons …

[SAGirl]

Hm I found rumors that the Spurs were interested in him, which is interesting. I just remember this vaguely.

https://hoopshype.com/rumor/spurs-have-called-suns-about-jalen-smith/

[exstatic]

I remember when Jalen Smith was on the trade block, a few guys objected to the Spurs trading for him and it just made me think that had the Spurs wanted him, they could have also traded for him, but they passed up that opportunity. Nothing (so far)leads me to believe they want him. Weren’t some guys here saying he was a bust rah rah? I think he’s interesting but why not trade for him b4 when the Suns first started to try to trade him?

How many times does this have to be posted here?

ONCE THE OPTION WAS DECLINED BY PHOENIX, WHOEVER HELD THE CONTRACT AT THE END OF THE YEAR WAS LIMITED TO SIGNING HIM OR SIGNING AND TRADING HIM FOR $4.7M. CAP ROOM DOESNT MATTER. IT’S A PART OF THE CBA THAT HAS TO DO WITH EXTENDING OR DECLINING OPTIONS. A SUFFICIENTLY MOTIVATED TEAM AND PLAYER COULD GAME THE SYSTEM TO GET PAID AFTER YEAR TWO INSTEAD OF AFTER YEAR FOUR.

I know this is a complex thought, but if you wanted him this summer, the best move was to NOT trade for him last February. Indy has virtually no chance to re-sign him, even though they have cap room. He’s shown enough to pull more than that $4.7M, and he’s unrestricted. The value of that toxic contract was so low, PHO had to send a second rounder with him to make the deal go through.

He’s 6’10, and in 22 games with Indy, 24.7 mpg, he put up 13.4p/7.6r and shot 37% from downtown in 3.8 attempts per game. It’s like he was designed in a lab specifically for the Spurs of today.

[SAGirl]

Honestly I might just ignore ^ this completely bc of the all caps and yelling, rude manner tbh. A lot of the stuff was posted when I didn’t read it, do you assume my recent account activity is year round? No need to yell.

[exstatic]

Honestly I might just ignore ^ this completely bc of the all caps and yelling, rude manner tbh. A lot of the stuff was posted when I didn’t read it, do you assume my recent account activity is year round? No need to yell.
It’s been posted in the last week or so. It’s been posted in the last month. It was posted in January when he blew up in PHO. If you’re going to post stupid shit like the Spurs must not like him because they didn’t trade for him, expect to get scorched. Keep up, or keep quiet. Your ramblings, coming from a place of lack of knowledge, add nothing. If you don’t know why the Spurs didn’t trade for him, or why that could signal interest, and you haven’t been keeping up, ASK.

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It’s been posted in the last week or so. It’s been posted in the last month. It was posted in January when he blew up in PHO. If you’re going to post stupid shit like the Spurs must not like him because they didn’t trade for him, expect to get scorched. Keep up, or keep quiet. Your ramblings, coming from a place of lack of knowledge, add nothing. If you don’t know why the Spurs didn’t trade for him, or why that could signal interest, and you haven’t been keeping up, ASK.

Someone been pissing in your Wheaties lately, Holmes?

[KingKev]

What would you think about trading Richardson, McDermott and Langford for Westbrook plus LA's 27 FRP unprotected and Washington's 28 SRP which LA owns. Depending on who else we sign this year and assuming we sign the draft choices we currently have we would have about $58 million in salaries ($50 million if we waive Collins) with a salary cap projected around $130 million. That includes the cap hold of around $11,600,000 for Keldon. We could sign 2 max players, then extend Keldon. I may be a few million off with cap holds for minimum number of players, but close.

Where did you see 130mm for 2022-23? Latest NBA projection a few weeks ago was 122mm. Current cap is 112mm so a jump to 130mm would be huge. By my match, renouncing Walker will leave us with ~40mm in cap this off summer. Not guaranteeing Landale, KBD, Collins gets you another 5 or so.

Also Keldon’s extension won’t come into effect till 23-24 season.

[Atl Spur]

Malik been balling…… he would have hurt the tank for sure!

[Atl Spur]

Some good points made by many in this thread…….

[Em-City]

jalen smith was trash though

[Atl Spur]

jalen smith was trash though

Touché

[Atl Spur]

Barlow will be his replacement for me….. I like Barlow! He’s a bright young dude it appears.

[Mr. Body]

1. Throw as much money at Ayton as you can

2. Trade for John Collins if they will take some combination of Poeltl, Doug, Lonnie, and Boston 1st round pick

3. Trade for Gobert if they will take the same deal for Collins

4. Throw some money at Mo Bamba

Genius. Absolute genius.

[Atl Spur]

Genius. Absolute genius.

Lol

[scott]

How many times does this have to be posted here?

ONCE THE OPTION WAS DECLINED BY PHOENIX, WHOEVER HELD THE CONTRACT AT THE END OF THE YEAR WAS LIMITED TO SIGNING HIM OR SIGNING AND TRADING HIM FOR $4.7M. CAP ROOM DOESNT MATTER. IT’S A PART OF THE CBA THAT HAS TO DO WITH EXTENDING OR DECLINING OPTIONS. A SUFFICIENTLY MOTIVATED TEAM AND PLAYER COULD GAME THE SYSTEM TO GET PAID AFTER YEAR TWO INSTEAD OF AFTER YEAR FOUR.

I know this is a complex thought, but if you wanted him this summer, the best move was to NOT trade for him last February. Indy has virtually no chance to re-sign him, even though they have cap room. He’s shown enough to pull more than that $4.7M, and he’s unrestricted. The value of that toxic contract was so low, PHO had to send a second rounder with him to make the deal go through.

He’s 6’10, and in 22 games with Indy, 24.7 mpg, he put up 13.4p/7.6r and shot 37% from downtown in 3.8 attempts per game. It’s like he was designed in a lab specifically for the Spurs of today.

Imagine being so condescending just to be so wrong.

MAYBE
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Imagine being so condescending just to be so wrong.

MAYBE
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I
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[RC_Drunkford]

Imagine being so condescending just to be so wrong.

MAYBE
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he said his market value was around 30 million for 3 years :lmao :lmao

[mo7888]

Rui may be playing himself into a nice contract next year..

[Atl Spur]

Give me KP this off season

[spurraider21]

Give me KP this off season
countdown till kp and wemby tangle knees and both out for the year

[TDMVPDPOY]

get a veteran pg...

[John B]

A vet PG George Hill who knows the system? A vet bigman Kevin Love instead of Dieng? Both putting good veteran presence during Wemby rookie year.

Just as great players like Timmy, MJ have elevated their team mates. I expect the same with our young core. I expect Malaki, Blake working hard with their handles this off-season, getting NBA stronger. The same with Keldon, Vassell, Sochan and everybody. The whole NBA fans would be on the Spurs and what this “alien” can do.

ESPN and other major sports channels will be putting Spurs back in national telecast. I expect everyone back in the gym working on their game, because this is about to get real :lol

[Atl Spur]

Some good points made by many in this thread…….

Great submissions in this thread:) Always fun to take a look back on how things panned out.

[spursgu]

Great submissions in this thread:) Always fun to take a look back on how things panned out.

spurs fans are really dumb, apparently it’s wrong to root for your own team.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

spurs fans are really dumb, apparently it’s wrong to root for your own team.

No, you can root for your team but you’re labeled a sniffer because apparently it’s cool to be constantly negative and edgy.

It’s normal, such is life on the internet.

[exstatic]

No, you can root for your team but you’re labeled a sniffer because apparently it’s cool to be constantly negative and edgy.

It’s normal, such is life on the internet.

Edgelords gonna Edgelord.

[Atl Spur]

No, you can root for your team but you’re labeled a sniffer because apparently it’s cool to be constantly negative and edgy.

It’s normal, such is life on the internet.

Sad but true…

[mo7888]

Scratch Grayson Allen..just resigned 4 years $70M

[LeBowen]

I guess he gave up some money to keep contending...if you can call Suns a legit contender.
I thought he'd ask for 80 to 90 million over 4 years.

[pad300]

Scratch Grayson Allen..just resigned 4 years $70M

Better deal for the Suns than I expected. If he wanted to play hardball, he probably could have gotten $100M/4yrs...I guess he likes Phoenix (the city), and thinks maybe he can get another ring if he's lucky.

[Mugen]

I'm not sure which Free Agents the Spurs will sign but I'm 1000% sure that OP will love the moves tbh :lol