Does anyone follow poker?

[KobesAchilles]

There's some crazy shit happening these past few days. Phil Hellmuth got his ass kicked heads up and was cussed on in the process. The dude gave him an epic double bird. Recommend looking that up on Youtube. Also Phil cried/whined towards the end match and basically walked away in tears. Now he's in a beef with Dnegs over it on twitter :lol

And secondly Bryn Kenny is about to sue my boy Doug Polk over his amazing interview where this guy laid out how Bryn Kenny has been scamming people out of millions on Club GG poker to support his lifestyle and basically built up an online cult that owns all of Club GG poker midstakes and high roller tournaments. It's insane how it is mapped out. And now Bryn is threatening a lawsuit over it if Doug keeps the interview up on Youtube. That's also a great interview bc the guy had to toke up to get the balls to tell this story to Doug and the crazy part is how easy the setup was for Bryn to make 2 million a week.

[DMX7]

Phil just being Phil... gets away with everything then has a meltdown with he encounters his own type of antics used against him.

[MultiTroll]

I've felt cheating takes place since I first began watching it.
"Full Tilt" caps worn by all 9 players at the Final Table a decade or so ago. Nothing suspicious about that.
Then we find out those phucks Jeezus Ferguson and Howard Lederbedder etc were cheating and extorting up the ass.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Love Phil Hellmuth, but in a game of analytics and luck, you've got to be more like Phil Ivey and keep your composure.

[Millennial_Messiah]

People who really care about the game enough to play it as a career will master the analytics of each hole hand, when to muck, when to limp, when to raise, when to shove, when to fold. Position matters. Suited connectors from the button often are better than, say, pocket aces from under the gun. There's a mathematical probability to everything. Yes, other human players are human, some people give tells, some people are notorious bluffers, but if you have a firm grasp on probability and statistics you can make some serious money playing hold'em long term. Don't count on specific short term gains and do understand there will be hands and rounds and tourneys and even days or weeks where you will come out negative, it's part of regression to the mean in analytics. But if you do it right you come out ahead. Last I heard Phil Hellmuth was worth around $90M from career winnings after taxes. A career of hold'em, smart plays, smart folds, coolers, and some lucky wins and bad beats thrown in there which is the nature of the sport. It's a great game, though. Just got to understand the game and understand how the central limit theorem works.

[SpursforSix]

People who really care about the game enough to play it as a career will master the analytics of each hole hand, when to muck, when to limp, when to raise, when to shove, when to fold. Position matters. Suited connectors from the button often are better than, say, pocket aces from under the gun. There's a mathematical probability to everything. Yes, other human players are human, some people give tells, some people are notorious bluffers, but if you have a firm grasp on probability and statistics you can make some serious money playing hold'em long term. Don't count on specific short term gains and do understand there will be hands and rounds and tourneys and even days or weeks where you will come out negative, it's part of regression to the mean in analytics. But if you do it right you come out ahead. Last I heard Phil Hellmuth was worth around $90M from career winnings after taxes. A career of hold'em, smart plays, smart folds, coolers, and some lucky wins and bad beats thrown in there which is the nature of the sport. It's a great game, though. Just got to understand the game and understand how the central limit theorem works.

Sure...if you're playing thousands of hands the odds will eventually work out. In normal life anyway. But most of us don't play thousands of hands. And most of us don't have unlimited drawdown.

In big time poker, you have to have something extra. Poker statistics are pretty simple . Any smart dude can figure out the odds every hand and make a decision based on the odds. But it's not a coincidence that you always mostly see the same players in the big time tournaments.

[MultiTroll]

In big time poker, you have to have something extra.
Disagree. I see retard moves getting rewarded all.the.time.
I mean in big and the biggest tournaments too.

Can't prove it but i think tons of cheating goes on. How in live? I'm sure there are plenty of ways and the old fashioned chip dumping by people on the same *team* is still used no doubt.

[SpursforSix]

Disagree. I see retard moves getting rewarded all.the.time.
I mean in big and the biggest tournaments too.

Can't prove it but i think tons of cheating goes on. How in live? I'm sure there are plenty of ways and the old fashioned chip dumping by people on the same *team* is still used no doubt.

I don't know about cheating in the big games but I have no doubt that there are teams that go play in the casinos and smaller home games. It'd be pretty easy for a couple of guys to let each other know what they have.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I don't know about cheating in the big games but I have no doubt that there are teams that go play in the casinos and smaller home games. It'd be pretty easy for a couple of guys to let each other know what they have.

Cheating? You can't count cards in poker because they shuffle the deck every hand unlike in blackjack. Lol. All you know is two out of 52 cards pre flop.

[MultiTroll]

Last I heard Phil Hellmuth was worth around $90M from career winnings after taxes. A career of hold'em, smart plays, smart folds, coolers, and some lucky wins and bad beats thrown in there which is the nature of the sport.
And the little bitch ass was said to been given 20 million by Ultimate Bet or whichever scam online site he was spokesman for. They ended up ripping off players and that bitch not only would not give a penny back but did NOTHING for the players and worse yet would not speak out on it at all.

Imo that cunt Helmuth was in on it.

A lot of these *big* players are major degens and are actually in debt. If not in poker then Vegas etc finds a way to fleece them thru other vices.
Some of the other games he may well have expertise in. Hold em he's nothing more then a media created fraud imo. For that matter give you, me, SpursForSix or virtually anyone given 5 million of scammed money and turn us loose at multiple tournaments sure we're gonna hit sooner or later.

[SpursforSix]

Cheating? You can't count cards in poker because they shuffle the deck every hand unlike in blackjack. Lol. All you know is two out of 52 cards pre flop.

If you've got two players letting each other know what their hole cards are, its a huge advantage. Even more so if they know how to bet in conjunction.

[MultiTroll]

I don't know about cheating in the big games
All-Time Poker Money Leader Bryn Kenney Accused of Running Cult-Like Cheating Operation | PokerNews (https://www.pokernews.com/news/2022/04/bryn-kenney-martin-zamani-cheating-accusations-41076.htm)

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2022/04/chance-kornuth-alex-foxen-poker-blacklist-41070.htm

[Millennial_Messiah]

If you've got two players letting each other know what their hole cards are, its a huge advantage. Even more so if they know how to bet in conjunction.

:lol I used to do that shit on Facebook Zynga Poker way back in the day. Not illegal of course because it was fake money but it was bragging rights back then.

[DMC]

Just unwashed creeps who sit in poker rooms all day