Why the Spurs Should Try to Sign Zach LaVine

[scott]

That's true. We get Lavine and then our weakness moving forward can be our lack of size.

For sure, but I'd presume it's easier to take elite talent where you can and then build the roster rather than trying to find elite talent at the exact position where you are weakest.

[scott]

...and we'll be stuck on that 5-8 treadmill, unable to afford anyone else.

Even if true, sure beats being in the 9-10 treadmill every year with a bunch of cap space used to sign the McBuckets of the world with your #10 pick every year. Thankfully, it's pretty obviously not true that one max player doesn't handicap you from ever doing anything else.

[scott]

Stars usually force trades. They also usually want to go to bigger, or perceived better markets than us. We weren’t even a draw during the Big Three era, only managing one signing towards the tail end of the run.

Shit man, maybe the Spurs should just move then. Your strategy seems to entail counting on ping pong balls like a homeless guy who'd rather buy lotto tickets than get an actual job.

[TD 21]

Do you think Lavine would be the Spurs go-to scorer? He defers to DeRozan on the Bulls roster.

Absolutely.

DeRozan is far more established than Murray and a better scorer.

[The Truth #6]

DDR is a benevolent ball hog. I still think LaVine is the better player.

[exstatic]

DDR is a benevolent ball hog. I still think LaVine is the better player.

He's a better player because he at least plays passable defense, can shoot the three and the unassisted three.

[objective]

If they can't get LaVine as a free agent, they won't be getting anyone in the next few years.

It's as good a situation as it will get. Max space.

Unrestricted.

Previously forced to sign an offer sheet like a chump

Recruited by a friend.

A coach he has a great relationship and positive results with.

A current team with aging 'stars '

This is it.

Aldridge was a similar great opportunity. Jealous of his teammates, dumb enough to think he'd be the #1 option, from Texas, had a kid in San Antonio supposedly, had good relationships with Mills as a teammate and Ime as a coach.

It's now or never, guys just don't hit unrestricted status that often with the things lining up for the Spurs like this

[BatManu20]

Aldridge was a very different situation. He publicly stated he wanted to be closer to home so he could see his son more often (as you mentioned). And he was coming into a situation where he was getting a Max Deal to play with his idol Tim Duncan, along with Kawhi Leonard and aging HOFers in Tony & Manu, with his buddies Patty and Ime, on a team that were legit title contenders.

While I do agree that LaVine is probably the Spurs’ best bet for a big name FA signing here anytime soon, for all the reasons that you mention, I also believe there’s little to no chance of it happening, sadly. For a multitude of reasons, the biggest being the city we’re in, the small market, and the fact that we’re not very good.

[Seventyniner]

Another positive to him signing would be that he'd take jersey #8 and we could put this whole Patty Mills jersey retirement thing to bed.

[RC_Drunkford]

If they can get LaVine get him. They‘ll obviously have to address the 4 spot, but the west is very weak right now and a lot of star players are over 30 while the Spurs have a lot of upside on the roster. I‘d take my chances

[NickiRasgo]

Not sure when was this but saw it from Instagram (Reels):

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cc6soshpxHp/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Yup. Zach and Manu.

[Leetonidas]

Not sure when was this but saw it from Instagram (Reels):

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cc6soshpxHp/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Yup. Zach and Manu.

Broken link

[NickiRasgo]

Broken link

Try on your phone and have an Instagram app. I think there's no "Reels" yet on PC/Desktop.

[RD2191]

:wakeup

[RC_Drunkford]

fuck it, get Ayton and LaVine and trade Poeltl for another first. We'd be back in the finals in no time

[KingKev]

https://www.spurstalk.com/5-teams-that-could-sign-zach-lavine/

More quality journalism from Paul Fogerty #facepalm

[PhantomDashCam]

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Chicago Medical initial diagnosis was a bruised knee…

Zach dealt with knee problems for a lot of the season. We have to handle with care here.

[XDT76]

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Chicago Medical initial diagnosis was a bruised knee…

Zach dealt with knee problems for a lot of the season. We have to handle with care here.

Did Ball have the same knee as an ex-Spurs?

[KingKev]

Did Ball have the same knee as an ex-Spurs?

???

[mo7888]

Did Ball have the same knee as an ex-Spurs?

This thread has gotten confusing...

[PhantomDashCam]

This thread has gotten confusing...

The only question I was trying to pose is what if Zach's injury was worse than what Chicago medical initially diagnosed? He then goes through the rest of the season putting significant more wear and tear on the knee, potentially shortening his career as a result...
With Chicago in a "Win at all costs" type mode, it's not outside the realms of possibility.

Spurs medical would obviously do their due diligence but I'd be extremely wary of offering the max without significant reassurances. Even with the most positive of prognostications, the team is unlikely to have full indemnity against such a contract.

Not a great example but Allan Houstan was arguably not worthy of signing the max...
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/983402-25-nba-careers-cut-tragically-short-to-injuries




Allan Houston's talents never warranted him becoming a $100 million man, but his sharp-shooting tendencies did deserve to be heralded.
After signing a maximum contract with the Knicks in 2001, Houston's slew of problems began. The shooting guard injured his knee in 2003, and despite attempting to return, he called it quits two years later.
Houston cited his injuries as what prevented him from finishing his career the way he wanted to. He was in the league for 12 years, but lost two of those to knee problems.
He may never have been worth the money New York was paying, but had he remained healthy, he would have definitely been worth watching.

[mo7888]

The only question I was trying to pose is what if Zach's injury was worse than what Chicago medical initially diagnosed? He then goes through the rest of the season putting significant more wear and tear on the knee, potentially shortening his career as a result...
With Chicago in a "Win at all costs" type mode, it's not outside the realms of possibility.

Spurs medical would obviously do their due diligence but I'd be extremely wary of offering the max without significant reassurances. Even with the most positive of prognostications, the team is unlikely to have full indemnity against such a contract.

Not a great example but Allan Houstan was arguably not worthy of signing the max...
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/983402-25-nba-careers-cut-tragically-short-to-injuries

Thank you for the clarification there...I was having a hard time reconciling what Lonzo's injury had to do with Zach's. As to the knee issue with Zach, do we know what kind of surgery we're talking about here? I thought it was just a routine clean up...nothing to do with ligaments... if thays not the case I'd have more concern otherwise I'm not to worried. I'm sure our medical staff will do the requisite due diligence (like you said) and that's enough for me.

[mo7888]

The only question I was trying to pose is what if Zach's injury was worse than what Chicago medical initially diagnosed? He then goes through the rest of the season putting significant more wear and tear on the knee, potentially shortening his career as a result...
With Chicago in a "Win at all costs" type mode, it's not outside the realms of possibility.

Spurs medical would obviously do their due diligence but I'd be extremely wary of offering the max without significant reassurances. Even with the most positive of prognostications, the team is unlikely to have full indemnity against such a contract.

Not a great example but Allan Houstan was arguably not worthy of signing the max...
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/983402-25-nba-careers-cut-tragically-short-to-injuries

Thank you for the clarification there...I was having a hard time reconciling what Lonzo's injury had to do with Zach's. As to the knee issue with Zach, do we know what kind of surgery we're talking about here? I thought it was just a routine clean up...nothing to do with ligaments... if that's not the case I'd have more concern otherwise I'm not to worried. I'm sure our medical staff will do the requisite due diligence (like you said) and that's enough for me.

[XDT76]

My bad for muddling the post, it's just that the Twitt shows Ball's knee not getting better and has pain everytime he try to ramp it out reminds me of Kawhi in his last season with us.

[KingKev]

Thank you for the clarification there...I was having a hard time reconciling what Lonzo's injury had to do with Zach's. As to the knee issue with Zach, do we know what kind of surgery we're talking about here? I thought it was just a routine clean up...nothing to do with ligaments... if that's not the case I'd have more concern otherwise I'm not to worried. I'm sure our medical staff will do the requisite due diligence (like you said) and that's enough for me.

I thought it was reported as just a cleanup - no structural damage.

[KingKev]

My bad for muddling the post, it's just that the Twitt shows Ball's knee not getting better and has pain everytime he try to ramp it out reminds me of Kawhi in his last season with us.

It was Leonard’s quad.

[PhantomDashCam]

Thank you for the clarification there...I was having a hard time reconciling what Lonzo's injury had to do with Zach's. As to the knee issue with Zach, do we know what kind of surgery we're talking about here? I thought it was just a routine clean up...nothing to do with ligaments... if that's not the case I'd have more concern otherwise I'm not to worried. I'm sure our medical staff will do the requisite due diligence (like you said) and that's enough for me.

My concern is with the Chicago Medical and Training Staff.

Supposedly Zach had been dealing with knee swelling and soreness for awhile and he didn't want to rest, likely due to the Bulls precarious position in the League Standings.
Then this seemingly innocuous injury occurs against GS:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6CIq9u8BWo

Now during this time, Ball was out with what was considered "Left Knee Soreness" which was U/G to "Left-Knee Bone Contusion" then finally to "Meniscus Tear". A week after the injury even Billy Donovan was interviewed about the injury suggesting "surgery wasn't on the cards". The day after, the meniscus tear news.
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/bulls-zach-lavine-lonzo-ball-miss-road-trip-knee-injuries

Zach was on and off the court with that same injury lingering season long, now confirming he has to get it the knee scoped...

I just worry that the medical team didn't protect the players from themselves risking further injuries and career altering trajectories as a result.

[PhantomDashCam]

I thought it was reported as just a cleanup - no structural damage.

Yes but isn't it those same sources that have invested an interest in players receiving top dollar based on their reporting?
I'm not saying that what they're stating is inaccurate, it is likely, just as you said, a cleanup.

But he does have a history of knee issues and the Bulls really weren't much of a team with him being the top dog. Is that a Max guy? Just sayin'.
(And this is with me thinking that a healthy Lavine and DJ Backcourt sounds enticing).

[mo7888]

My concern is with the Chicago Medical and Training Staff.

Supposedly Zach had been dealing with knee swelling and soreness for awhile and he didn't want to rest, likely due to the Bulls precarious position in the League Standings.
Then this seemingly innocuous injury occurs against GS:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6CIq9u8BWo

Now during this time, Ball was out with what was considered "Left Knee Soreness" which was U/G to "Left-Knee Bone Contusion" then finally to "Meniscus Tear". A week after the injury even Billy Donovan was interviewed about the injury suggesting "surgery wasn't on the cards". The day after, the meniscus tear news.
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/bulls-zach-lavine-lonzo-ball-miss-road-trip-knee-injuries

Zach was on and off the court with that same injury lingering season long, now confirming he has to get it the knee scoped...

I just worry that the medical team didn't protect the players from themselves risking further injuries and career altering trajectories as a result.

If your fears about their staff are justified it'll all come out when our staff reviews the records. So there's not much to worry about...

[superbigtime]

I don't remember that. Interesting if so. I wonder what TP liked about his game back when he was playing as Zach has gotten much better since then.

I think just his athleticism. Back when he was a T wolf.

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

LaVar stirring the pot per par :lol

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[Seventyniner]

No need for LaVine to agitate tbh. He's a UFA and will get at least one max offer.

[BatManu20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTN7QGfX0AEq0h6?format=jpg&name=large

[slick'81]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTN7QGfX0AEq0h6?format=jpg&name=large


pipe dream, but a nice one

[tbdog]

How is lakers even an option with their cap space. Bulls so no to Westbrook. Now what?

[MannyIsGod]

For sure, but I'd presume it's easier to take elite talent where you can and then build the roster rather than trying to find elite talent at the exact position where you are weakest.


This is all people should be thinking about. The Spurs with Lavine are in a much better position than any other scenario. This is really a no brainer.

[tbdog]

The leaked report is he is giving blazers, Hawks, lakers, mavs interviews. No mention of the spurs.

[mo7888]

The leaked report is he is giving blazers, Hawks, lakers, mavs interviews. No mention of the spurs.

I believe all of those teams would need to do a S&T to acquire him. I would think to increase his leverage with the Bulls he'd want at least one team with the space to outright sign him. For instance, I doubt there's a trade the Bulls would want to do with LA for their junk (assuming AD is off the table) but, they might consider it if they faced the threat he could walk to a team with space for nothing...

[tbdog]

I don't think the spurs will wait it out if he isn't in the spurs to 4. I wouldn't be surprised if ayton accepts the max from a team day one.

[KingKev]

I don't think the spurs will wait it out if he isn't in the spurs to 4. I wouldn't be surprised if ayton accepts the max from a team day one.

He is an RFA he’d be stupid not to accept a max.

[KingKev]

I believe all of those teams would need to do a S&T to acquire him. I would think to increase his leverage with the Bulls he'd want at least one team with the space to outright sign him. For instance, I doubt there's a trade the Bulls would want to do with LA for their junk (assuming AD is off the table) but, they might consider it if they faced the threat he could walk to a team with space for nothing...

Blazers can easily pay him outright. Him leaving via S&T is most likely though regardless. He has more say on his destination, gets max money/years and the Bulls get something in return. Same reason we got something back for DDR. DDR had no options to sign outright at that price. Bulls needed us.

[mo7888]

Blazers can easily pay him outright. Him leaving via S&T is most likely though regardless. He has more say on his destination, gets max money/years and the Bulls get something in return. Same reason we got something back for DDR. DDR had no options to sign outright at that price. Bulls needed us.

I didn't realize the Blazers had that much room.... good to know..

[Degoat]

Why would we want Lavine when we just had Demar and pretty much everybody hated him? Don’t give me Lavine shoots 3s stuff either demars better then Lavine.

[tbdog]

Why would we want Lavine when we just had Demar and pretty much everybody hated him? Don’t give me Lavine shoots 3s stuff either demars better then Lavine.

Demar is but Lavine fits with Murray and is younger. Also the options are low. The draft is going to be very interesting.

[MannyIsGod]

Why would we want Lavine when we just had Demar and pretty much everybody hated him? Don’t give me Lavine shoots 3s stuff either demars better then Lavine.

DeMar is not better than Lavine. I don't think there's a gm in the league that would take DeMar over Lavine. Wtf?

[baseline bum]

Blazers can easily pay him outright. Him leaving via S&T is most likely though regardless. He has more say on his destination, gets max money/years and the Bulls get something in return. Same reason we got something back for DDR. DDR had no options to sign outright at that price. Bulls needed us.

I thought they closed that loophole in the CBA years ago where players could get max years via sign and trade. Thought the only way to get five years these days was to stick with your team.

[DPG21920]

I thought they closed that loophole in the CBA years ago where players could get max years via sign and trade. Thought the only way to get five years these days was to stick with your team.

That is correct. If he leaves the Bulls (whether FA or S^T) he loses the money he could get vs staying with CHI

[scott]

The only thing Demar is better than Lavine at is staying healthy, which admittedly is pretty important.

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It was Leonard’s quad.

True but injured quads are thought to enhance the risk for knee problems

[mystargtr34]

Derozan is next to useless when playing off the ball, Lavine isn’t. Huge difference in terms of fit on this team.

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That is correct. If he leaves the Bulls (whether FA or S^T) he loses the money he could get vs staying with CHI

He loses the extra year, not the money, right?

[SAGirl]

The leaked report is he is giving blazers, Hawks, lakers, mavs interviews. No mention of the spurs.
Would be scary with Luka. He needs a costar.

[DPG21920]

He loses the extra year, not the money, right?

Both. Raises year to year are lower too

[John B]

Would be scary with Luka. He needs a costar.

I hated Kobe’s fist pumps, but Doncic’s smirks are on a different level.

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Both. Raises year to year are lower too

Right.

[KingKev]

Right.

Looked into it…

4 yrs with 5% raises versus 5 yrs with 8% raises.

[KingKev]

That 5th year guarantee for a guy who’s had complications with injuries is very relevant but if healthy and still playing well he probably opts out of year 5 to sign his last major long term deal anyways.

I really like the idea of Lavine with the following qualifiers:

- adequate comfort regarding his knee post clean up surgery
- signing him outright or not paying too much via S&T
- he would have made way more sense with a top 3 pick knowing the frontline was in better shape

With that being said I suspect there is very little if any mutual interest:

- confident he gets max regardless and but he definitely wants to win and I can’t imagine he looks at the Spurs with a short to medium term outlook and sees us as a contender
- relationship with Murray is probably over hyped
- relationship with Pop less relevant given this is Pop’s last year
- PATFO is stubborn enough that they think they can develop a star organically and less likely to pay market price for one who is already developed

[gambit1990]

he's not joining the spurs :lol

[Mr. Body]

Apparently Chicago interviewed Benedict Mathurin at the combine. Not totally unusual, other than the fact that they don't have a good enough draft pick to get him. Rumors are Portland may be looking to trade for Zach LaVine using their pick.

[rascal]

Apparently Chicago interviewed Benedict Mathurin at the combine. Not totally unusual, other than the fact that they don't have a good enough draft pick to get him. Rumors are Portland may be looking to trade for Zach LaVine using their pick.

There goes Mathurin off the board.

[mo7888]

Apparently Chicago interviewed Benedict Mathurin at the combine. Not totally unusual, other than the fact that they don't have a good enough draft pick to get him. Rumors are Portland may be looking to trade for Zach LaVine using their pick.

I'm not sure why they'd trade their pick for Zach when they have the space to sign him outright but if they do I doubt Chicago takes Murray if he gets past indy...

[KingKev]

I'm not sure why they'd trade their pick for Zach when they have the space to sign him outright but if they do I doubt Chicago takes Murray if he gets past indy...

Agreed. They can free up substantial cap room by not picking up Bledsoe’s 20mm option and letting Nurk walk and still
pay Simmons.

[pad300]

Agreed. They can free up substantial cap room by not picking up Bledsoe’s 20mm option and letting Nurk walk and still
pay Simmons.

I'm thinking they already have come to an understanding with Nurk about his next contract, otherwise he wouldn't have been sitting at the end of the year (in a contract year).

[KingKev]

I'm thinking they already have come to an understanding with Nurk about his next contract, otherwise he wouldn't have been sitting at the end of the year (in a contract year).

They can pribably bring him back at 15-20mm a year and still get Lavine.

[R. DeMurre]

Getting LaVine now would be such a classic Portland move... they wasted basically a decade trying to win with a back court of 6'2" Lilliard and 6'3" McCollum, and then when McCollum went to New Orleans, the Pelicans immediately moved him to PG and paired him with defensive length in their back court, which makes perfect sense. If the Trailblazers move forward with 6'2" Lilliard, 6'3" Anfernee Simons, and 6'5" Zach LaVine, they'll just be experimenting with the same mistake that essentially wasted Lilliard's prime, an undersized back court that can't defend against any good teams in the playoffs.

[KingKev]

Getting LaVine now would be such a classic Portland move... they wasted basically a decade trying to win with a back court of 6'2" Lilliard and 6'3" McCollum, and then when McCollum went to New Orleans, the Pelicans immediately moved him to PG and paired him with defensive length in their back court, which makes perfect sense. If the Trailblazers move forward with 6'2" Lilliard, 6'3" Anfernee Simons, and 6'5" Zach LaVine, they'll just be experimenting with the same mistake that essentially wasted Lilliard's prime, an undersized back court that can't defend against any good teams in the playoffs.

Yeah I’d hope they atleast go with a 3 guard rotation versus Lavine at the 3. You could fill that rister out with solid long athletic 3&D player and than you are maybe a piece away from a top 4 team in the west.

[DPG21920]

Apparently Chicago interviewed Benedict Mathurin at the combine. Not totally unusual, other than the fact that they don't have a good enough draft pick to get him. Rumors are Portland may be looking to trade for Zach LaVine using their pick.

Good news is SA has way more draft capital than POR does if it comes to that..

[BatManu20]

Lol @ thinking he’s coming to San Antonio. Only way lakers can afford him though is if they give AD, which I don’t see happening. Although it’s gotta be tempting given his inability to stay on the floor.


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[T Park]

Lol @ thinking he’s coming to San Antonio. Only way lakers can afford him though is if they give AD, which I don’t see happening. Although it’s gotta be tempting given his inability to stay on the floor.


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Same tired trope was said about Aldridge when he said the same things

[exstatic]

Same tired trope was said about Aldridge when he said the same things

I don’t remember LMA having a list of 4 teams, and us not being on it. Immaterial, though. We were 13 months from a championship, and had the big 3.

[mo7888]

Same tired trope was said about Aldridge when he said the same things

We're in a different place from when we got Aldridge...there's no Duncan, Manu, kawhi, or TP... that said, I don't think it's impossible to sign Zach. The key would be a package type situation where we can show him that we're trading for another high level player so we have Zach, DJ, and one other high level guy. That might entice him but he's not coming as presently constructed I don't believe.

[KingKev]

Lavine for Wes and THT confirmed. I can see Lakers fans now:

Why it makes sense for both sides:
- Lavine has always wanted to be a Laker
- Lavine gets to play with Lebron
- Chicago gets an up and coming NBA star in THT
- Chicago gets to potentially become part of another NBA championship (not their own but still assists matter and they they haven’t won a title since before Instagram)
- Russ is a triple double machine and is good at getting assists (they matter) to help Chicago that way
- Lakers could afford to sign and trade future NBA all star Malik Monk plus an FRP for Dame

[SAGirl]

Getting LaVine now would be such a classic Portland move... they wasted basically a decade trying to win with a back court of 6'2" Lilliard and 6'3" McCollum, and then when McCollum went to New Orleans, the Pelicans immediately moved him to PG and paired him with defensive length in their back court, which makes perfect sense. If the Trailblazers move forward with 6'2" Lilliard, 6'3" Anfernee Simons, and 6'5" Zach LaVine, they'll just be experimenting with the same mistake that essentially wasted Lilliard's prime, an undersized back court that can't defend against any good teams in the playoffs.

other recent flameouts with teams whose offensive options are small guards: Utah with Conley and Mitchell, Suns with CP3 and Booker (he's taller but doesn't play like it).

I am not including Grizzlies there bc they are too young to see them at their best, and injuries really took them out of the running more than anything else, but I have always said they go as far as Jaren takes them. They need Jaren to be a more consistent and better player.

[SAGirl]

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[R. DeMurre]

LaVine's stupid nickname is "Young Hollywood." :lol. How are people surprised that he's a Laker fan?

[SAGirl]

LaVine's stupid nickname is "Young Hollywood." :lol. How are people surprised that he's a Laker fan?
Lol I didnt know this, but I knew he went to UCLA and was going to make a snarky comment about him already showing an interest in the LA scene, but stopped myself from going there without knowing more. Lol wow

[exstatic]

Well, the Lakers kind of announced that Westchuck would be back, since they’re unwilling to attach assets to move him. Looks like LaVine ain’t goin to the Lakers.

[mo7888]

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Hmmmm....That’s interesting....makes me wonder if there's any connection to the 'KD wants out of Brooklyn' stuff we're hearing? I know it's a reach but KD, Zach, and DJ would be very interesting..

[JPB]

Wouldn't be overly excited by "Young Hollywood" as a spur but assuming PATFO pulls out a good draft, that could make the team fun to watch next season and really competitive again... And since they're not tanking for Victor next year anyway, yeah let's do this...Who knows, if chemistry is there they could surprise us. Development is fine and all but, you know...

[Chinook]

Apparently Chicago interviewed Benedict Mathurin at the combine. Not totally unusual, other than the fact that they don't have a good enough draft pick to get him. Rumors are Portland may be looking to trade for Zach LaVine using their pick.

This 100 percent is not a thing, for reasons people have mentioned but also because it's illegal. Chicago does have DeRozan and Pat Williams who might well get them up to 7 in some combination with 18. Or they could expect Mathurin is going to fall. But they aren't discussing sign-and-trades of Lavine. That's a one-way ticket toward getting the trade blocked and losing a second-rounder.

[R. DeMurre]

At least it's entertaining to watch the Laker Circus... Imagine being Darvin Ham and trying to convince Westbrook that he should come off the bench? Yikes.

I think the only approach that could possibly work with Russ is to tell him you think he should lead the NBA in assists next season, and hope that he takes that challenge to heart. I don't think that's even nearly enough, but it's probably all they've got if they're keeping him.

[KingKev]

At least it's entertaining to watch the Laker Circus... Imagine being Darvin Ham and trying to convince Westbrook that he should come off the bench? Yikes.

I think the only approach that could possibly work with Russ is to tell him you think he should lead the NBA in assists next season, and hope that he takes that challenge to heart. I don't think that's even nearly enough, but it's probably all they've got if they're keeping him.

That would lead to 14 assists and 10 turnovers a game….

[MannyIsGod]

https://twitter.com/newbalancehoops/status/1530934652416020481?t=YRyEhCheol7d8Geq7qQrtg&s=19

Just a day after they tweeted then on DJM. It's flimsy but this is obviously a spurs inspired color way for Murray since these are the shoes he wears.

[KingKev]

https://twitter.com/newbalancehoops/status/1530934652416020481?t=YRyEhCheol7d8Geq7qQrtg&s=19

Just a day after they tweeted then on DJM. It's flimsy but this is obviously a spurs inspired color way for Murray since these are the shoes he wears.

New Balance getting pretty dope these days.

[Uriel]

If the Spurs sign LaVine in free agency, trading White would look even dumber. Having LaVine as your starting 2-guard with White playing the 6th man role would’ve immediately vaulted the Spurs to playoff contender status.

[Chinook]

If the Spurs sign LaVine in free agency, trading White would look even dumber. Having LaVine as your starting 2-guard with White playing the 6th man role would’ve immediately vaulted the Spurs to playoff contender status.

That's why they've gotta draft Alondes Williams at 25. Richardson is also a good win-now player, and he is good ballast in case the Spurs are going to make another win-now move. Given that White and Murray just didn't fit together, I don't think the Spurs are dumb for trading White and potentially signing Lavine.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/newbalancehoops/status/1530934652416020481

[KingKev]

If the Spurs sign LaVine in free agency, trading White would look even dumber. Having LaVine as your starting 2-guard with White playing the 6th man role would’ve immediately vaulted the Spurs to playoff contender status.

LOL.

I mean we are already a top 5 team in the west though.

[Dejounte]

Not getting my hopes but if the Spurs manage to sign Lavine, then the offseason is a success already no matter who they draft

[BatManu20]

This is probably true but they’re still going to offer it to him regardless.

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[KingKev]

This is probably true but they’re still going to offer it to him regardless.

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I’m always skeptical of this type of reporting. Ppl in a position of power din’t speak to twitter muppets regarding family business. Also how many ppl in the Bulls actually have say on Lavine and his contract? Chad from accounting, Derek from corporate development and their views are irrelevant.

[spurraider21]

as much as i would love for us to land him... i cant fathom the bulls not offering him the max

[BatManu20]

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[CGD]

as much as i would love for us to land him... i cant fathom the bulls not offering him the max

Agree, but that becomes an expensive meh team. I'd expect theyd be trying to move Vuc immediately.

[Brazil]

LaVine is probably signing with Chicago tbh... and even if he does not, there is no way Spurs sign him. Dude wants to play for a big market, he thinks he is a big thing

[BatManu20]

As expected. He was never going anywhere. Just wanted the Max from Chicago.


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[BatManu20]

Confirmed.


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[tonight...you]

Confirmed.


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Wow that is an ugly shuffle. Like wow.

[scott]

We’ll the dream was fun while it lasted. Gimme Mathurin at 9 now

[slick'81]

Spurs were never getting this guy

[tmtcsc]

Not a difference maker or leader. He's an athletic and flashy player who doesn't move the needle. He puts up great stats though just like a younger version of Derozan. Numbers look good but not a winner.

[MultiTroll]

Not a difference maker or leader. He's an athletic and flashy player who doesn't move the needle. He puts up great stats though just like a younger version of Derozan. Numbers look good but not a winner.
Bulls 23-27 and in Lotto at press time.

[mo7888]

Bulls 23-27 and in Lotto at press time.

It looks like the Mavs, Heat, and Lakers are trying to acquire him..

[MultiTroll]

It looks like the Mavs, Heat, and Lakers are trying to acquire him..
He won't ring with any of them.
Near maxing or maxing Lavine a huge mistake imo.

OPs original post was when Spurs still believed DJ Murray would continue with the team.
A Murray Lavine backcourt could have been good.
OTOH ATL is .500
Some would say Lavine is better they Trey.

[mo7888]

He won't ring with any of them.
Near maxing or maxing Lavine a huge mistake imo.

OPs original post was when Spurs still believed DJ Murray would continue with the team.
A Murray Lavine backcourt could have been good.
OTOH ATL is .500
Some would say Lavine is better they Trey.

He's empty calories

[cd98]

He doesn't make sense on this team now.

[ismael-robert]

Bulls missing a Ball largely impacts record

[MultiTroll]

Bulls' Zach LaVine to have foot surgery, out 4-6 months - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39452599/bulls-zach-lavine-foot-surgery-4-6-months)

[Jordan Jackson]

Bulls' Zach LaVine to have foot surgery, out 4-6 months - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39452599/bulls-zach-lavine-foot-surgery-4-6-months)

Dude opted to cut his foot off instead of ending up on the Pistons. Bold move.

[exstatic]

Bullet dodged…

[CGD]

Dude opted to cut his foot off instead of ending up on the Pistons. Bold move.

Hahahaha. Well done sir

[mystargtr34]

Dude opted to cut his foot off instead of ending up on the Pistons. Bold move.

Haha they definitely decided on season ending surgery once the Pistons rumours became real.