Spurs really gave away a 4-time WCF/championship caliber backcourt for Demar?

[kht]

Ideally Danny Green shoulda been his own trade if we were looking move him too. How on earth does Toronto end up with two players, starting level players, in this scenario? Managed to still hold onto OG and Siakam. At least throw in another future first two years in the future.

Danny Green had himself a 7/8 3PM, 2013 NBA Finals like performance last night. We gift wrapped Toronto a backcourt that went to the finals twice and the WCF in twice, winning one title.

[KingKev]

It stillllll HURTS!!!

I don’t normally condone threads like this but Spurs fans are so busy defending Kawhi for DDR, Jak and what would become Keldon they forget about Green and 5mm cash. Danny Green and 5mm cash as a throw in was PATFO’s stubbornness on full display.

Danny Green was worth that first alone.

[exstatic]

Fucking get OVER IT. It was FOUR YEARS GO. Walk it off.

[Dejounte]

The OP

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[T Park]

Jesus Christ move on

[Ocotillo]

You remember when the Spurs drafted Alfredrick Hughes? That sucked.

[Joseph Kony]

Danny green's been trash since he left Toronto :lol one good game doesnt change that

[rascal]

Green had a 1-10 shooting game the game before.

[JeffDuncan]

Danny green is a phenomenon unto himself. At the time the Spurs traded him, he looked washed up, or very close. Heck, he looked washed up at times while he was still here. Overall, he’s probably been looking washed for about seven years now. But somehow he never is, quite, and he keeps going. An amazing character. How he keeps finding a way to hang around, I don’t know. But there he is, again. Lol

[Johnsyounger]

Member when we drafted Dwayne Schintzius. Thats sucked

[tbdog]

Green is a plug and play swing. You got to give it to him. Any team in the nba could have him over night and he'll be a positive.

[heyheymymy]

LOL at Toronto's "championship" with stolen stars junior champs no one fully respects what the Raptors did

No big deal I like OG and Siakam and now precious but that ring was kinda a heist imho

[heyheymymy]

If they'd done that deal straight they'd have to give up what they got back and be back where they started again.

They knew neph was disgruntled

Heist ring made of tin

[Gibbz]

Bro James Anderson sucked

[TDMVPDPOY]

raptors havnt done shit since championship, siakram hasnt live up to teh contract he sign

[KingKev]

raptors havnt done shit since championship, siakram hasnt live up to teh contract he sign

They lost Kawhi after we did and are already leaps and bounds better than we are with considerably MORE talent and a playoff appearance in what was a tougher conference this year.

Siakam averaged 23pts, 9rebs, 5assts this season.

Spurs fans stay butt hurt. Be mad at Leonard and PATFO for that situation not the Raps.

[DeRozan m8]

Anyone who watched 2017, knows Danny Greens time with the Spurs was up.

Now move on and stop being daft

[Em-City]

You remember when the Spurs drafted Alfredrick Hughes? That sucked.

Missed that one

[Chinook]

Obviously, the Spurs are still trying to replace Green. STers can and often do pretend that the guys they drafted have a realistic chance of being better versions of Green, but that's pretty hard to look for. It's also true that Green is older now, and the trade was years ago. We should move on. I'm as happy as a clam that Danny showed he can still get it done, but with Harden on the Sixers, I can't root for him to get his fourth ring this year. If it happens, good for him.

[CGD]

Bro James Anderson sucked

No, James Anderson got injured. He was showing some promise as a solid role player until he got hurt

[Rocalcio]

Danny green's been trash since he left Toronto :lol one good game doesnt change that

This

[slick'81]

Greens career is definitely on its last legs.LDN still has some bullets left ,tbh

[KingKev]

DG = Primo and Vassell’s realistic benchmark by year 4-5. Likely worse defenders with better ability to put the ball on the floor.

[TD 21]

If they'd done that deal straight they'd have to give up what they got back and be back where they started again.

They knew neph was disgruntled

Heist ring made of tin

It's refreshing to see someone who gets it and isn't concerned with strangers perceptions on a message board.

The reason their tainted championship has no credibility isn't because it was a heist though, it's because Scumbag intentionally and successfully tanked his value to such a degree that a "trade" was made and team formed that they'd otherwise only be able to dream about.



They lost Kawhi after we did and are already leaps and bounds better than we are with considerably MORE talent and a playoff appearance in what was a tougher conference this year.

Siakam averaged 23pts, 9rebs, 5assts this season.

Spurs fans stay butt hurt. Be mad at Leonard and PATFO for that situation not the Raps.

:lmao Closet Raptors fan boy at it again. That was a byproduct of Scumbag intentionally and successfully tanking his value to such a degree that they didn't have to give up a core young piece(s) or myriad picks.

Instead of being grateful that the Spurs were going to make their careers, winning the trade in a landslide wasn't enough, they had to embarrass them in the process and have proceeded to act like arrogant pricks since.

[KingKev]

It's refreshing to see someone who gets it and isn't concerned with strangers perceptions on a message board.

The reason their tainted championship has no credibility isn't because it was a heist though, it's because Scumbag intentionally and successfully tanked his value to such a degree that a "trade" was made and team formed that they'd otherwise only be able to dream about.




:lmao Closet Raptors fan boy at it again. That was a byproduct of Scumbag intentionally and successfully tanking his value to such a degree that they didn't have to give up a core young piece(s) or myriad picks.

Instead of being grateful that the Spurs were going to make their careers, winning the trade in a landslide wasn't enough, they had to embarrass them in the process and have proceeded to act like arrogant pricks since.

Massai is your real DADDY. Doc is just your step DADDY.

[RC_Drunkford]

I never liked that Pop wanted to get rid of Green, but he been in trade rumors all of that season. Left the Spurs with a hole at the 2 and the Bryn Forbes era began...

[TD 21]

Massai is your real DADDY. Doc is just your step DADDY.

:lmao Closet Raptors fan boy with played out, lame "comebacks".

[KingKev]

I never liked that Pop wanted to get rid of Green, but he been in trade rumors all of that season. Left the Spurs with a hole at the 2 and the Bryn Forbes era began...

Green wanted out. He enjoyed his social life and success more than Pop liked I bet. For ppl saying Green was done do ya’ll remember how clutch he was to close out the Rockets in 2017?

[K...]

I never liked that Pop wanted to get rid of Green, but he been in trade rumors all of that season. Left the Spurs with a hole at the 2 and the Bryn Forbes era began...

he had an option and everyone thought he;d opt out. then he didn't and the spurs were mad at paying his last year. The hole was about them wanting to move on to get a cheaper role player.

[RC_Drunkford]

Green wanted out. He enjoyed his social life and success more than Pop liked I bet. For ppl saying Green was done do ya’ll remember how clutch he was to close out the Rockets in 2017?

playoff Danny was always a different beast. He's somebody you can count on in important games. Pop clearly wanted to get rid of him which didn't make sense since they didn't have a replacement for him. Instead Pop went on to start Bryn Forbes for 2 seasons straight and we all knew how that went

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Bennnnoooooooo

[cd021]

In retrospect, that trade looks a lot better tbh. Johnson looks like he might be a future star, Poeltl is an above average starting center and they flipped DeRozan for what turned out to be the Bulls 2025 first, the 20th and 38th pick in the draft. Worked out pretty well

[KingKev]

playoff Danny was always a different beast. He's somebody you can count on in important games. Pop clearly wanted to get rid of him which didn't make sense since they didn't have a replacement for him. Instead Pop went on to start Bryn Forbes for 2 seasons straight and we all knew how that went

When they traded Green they also had White in the pipeline so I think that factored into it.

Still think he should have been traded separately. That was another case of bad asset management from PATFO. PATFO was absolutely atrocious from 2017 till the 2021 trade deadline.

[rascal]

In retrospect, that trade looks a lot better tbh. Johnson looks like he might be a future star, Poeltl is an above average starting center and they flipped DeRozan for what turned out to be the Bulls 2025 first, the 20th and 38th pick in the draft. Worked out pretty well

In reality Poeltl is just an average center, Johnson is no where near a star currently and uncertain if he will improve much more than what he is now, the future draft picks are still unknown if they will be anything special.

[Proxy]

DG is a good piece on a contender, thought it was the right time for him to go

[exstatic]

DG is a good piece on a contender, thought it was the right time for him to go

I think he and Pop had reached a point of parting ways.

[rascal]

Green was no longer a fit with a rebuild.

It was time to go.

[KingKev]

Green was no longer a fit with a rebuild.

It was time to go.

We weren’t rebuilding though? Even though we should have been.

[KobesAchilles]

Poeltl is a top 10 center. These don’t just grow on trees. A former all star as a SG and a top 10 center and KJ. If anything we ripped them off.

[rascal]

Poeltl is a top 10 center. These don’t just grow on trees. A former all star as a SG and a top 10 center and KJ. If anything we ripped them off.

No, they got a championship out of it while the Spurs are a non playoff team with all the so called talent they got back. Well worth it to them.

[daslicer]

Poeltl is a top 10 center. These don’t just grow on trees. A former all star as a SG and a top 10 center and KJ. If anything we ripped them off.

Raptors ripped off the Spurs. They got a title out of the trade and now are still a playoff team with a promising young player in Barnes along with still having Siakam and Vanvleet.

[KingKev]

Raptors ripped off the Spurs. They got a title out of the trade and now are still a playoff team with a promising young player in Barnes along with still having Siakam and Vanvleet.

and OG. We could have drafted Keldon at 19. We also developed Jak.

[TD 21]

In retrospect, that trade looks a lot better tbh. Johnson looks like he might be a future star, Poeltl is an above average starting center and they flipped DeRozan for what turned out to be the Bulls 2025 first, the 20th and 38th pick in the draft. Worked out pretty well

Longtime no see.

That's not how these things work though and looking slightly better than at first blush isn't the same as it being so much as decent. His true value should have been commensurate with the Pelicans haul for Davis.

It was an absolute embarrassment of the highest order all the way around from Scumbag's antics to the Spurs caving to Silver, who's lack of a backbone and foresight led to it being open season on small markets in recent years.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

If you've watched Danny Green at all you'd realize he's fvcking terrible these days. He can barely move around out there. He's stiff-legged and most of the time his shot is way off even if the other team is giving him open looks.

[Strategic]

Just don’t let Green have the ball on a break.

[KobesAchilles]

No, they got a championship out of it while the Spurs are a non playoff team with all the so called talent they got back. Well worth it to them.
Poeltl isn’t the reason why we aren’t a contender. He’s a legit top 10 center and should be a perennial DPOY candidate according to defensive metrics. He’s also our most important player and a winner. Period. He’s also on an amazing contract that he has exceeded in value.

If you trade back the Chi FRP, the Boston pick, and filler for Lavine then we have a top 5 PG, top 10 C, and top 5 SG. We will also have a sharpshooter in KJ who is gonna be in next years MIP contention. That’s a title contender here in the West anyways.

[Drom John]

FiveThirtyEight Raptor, WAR

Danny Green since Toronto

21-22 #125 3.2 Danny Green, Josh Hart, Austin Reaves, Gabe Vincent
20-21 #37 6.2 Danny Green, Royce O'Neal, Ben Simmons
19-20 #24 6.6 Danny Green

Playoffs

21-22 (in progress) #38 0.7 OG Anunoby, Jordan Claxson, Pat Connaughton, Rudy Gobert, Danny Green, Jrue Holiday, CJ McCollum, Otto Porter Jr, Karl-Anthony Towns
20-21 #44 0.8 Bojan Bogdanovic, Danny Green, George Hill, Cameron Johnson, Marcus Morris Jr.
19-20 #15 1.9 Danny Green, Donovan Mitchell