If I was an a&m fan............ [Archive]

Ballcox

11-29-2005, 12:51 PM

I would be pretty excited about the prospects of McGee at QB, he really impressed me with his play against UT last Friday. He showed some speed I didn't think he had and seemed to play with a great deal of poise throughout the game. Granted, he did make some mistakes late in the game, but he's young and smart enough to learn from them. Additionally, he seems to have that leadership quality that you've gotta love in your QB. Guys seemed to really play with a lot of intensity with him at QB, more so that what I saw with Reggie at QB. I would be highly optimistic with him as my QB that a&m will have a much better season next year.

IcemanCometh

11-29-2005, 12:58 PM

He has nowhere to go but down

Mr Dio

11-29-2005, 01:08 PM

He definitely is a potential star man.
Word to the wise, everyone & their mom was hyped just as much about McNeal.
I don't know the future, but it is looking brighter in ag land.

Ballcox

11-29-2005, 01:17 PM

What I've seen before at a number of different levels with sports is two types of athletes that assume leadership positions on a team. The leaders who have all the natural god-given talent in the world, but don't necessarily want/know how to lead their team (I saw this first hand with C. Simms as our QB). There are also the guys who don't have a great deal of talent, but just lead through determination, charisma, etc. I also saw this type when Applewhite was our QB. Every once in a while you get the guy who has the god-give ability and the desire to win and lead to go with it, someone like Vince Young. All of that just brings me back to McNeal and his time at a&m, no doubt he had all kinds of natural talent, but I'm just not sure if he was a real leader on that team, or if his team bought into him as a leader. I know it's only one game, but McGee seemed to have that determination, charisma, whatever it is that his team bought into. To me that's a positive for the future.

Marcus Bryant

11-29-2005, 04:08 PM

A&M's receiving corps was decimated this season.

Kdfelicity

11-29-2005, 04:33 PM

Steven McGee had a stunning and impressive performance, I will give him that.

BUT
-He used the same play a lot
-He was a little ballsy with his antics(getting up and asking UT's D-line to go ahead and do it again)...that pissed me off, you ain't that great yet, McGee

Marcus Bryant

11-29-2005, 05:17 PM

If you use the same play again and it works, well...

2centsworth

11-29-2005, 05:19 PM

If you use the same play again and it works, well...
totally, the old Nebraska teams had only two plays in the entire playbook. Option right and Option left. They won 2 national championships with those two plays.

Kdfelicity

11-29-2005, 05:28 PM

I think in order to be a truly good quarterback you gotta be versatile.

Marcus Bryant

11-29-2005, 05:36 PM

He's fairly versatile for a QB.

Kdfelicity

11-29-2005, 05:37 PM

Not quite yet. He's got the potential though.

Marcus Bryant

11-29-2005, 05:43 PM

Well, he's got a strong arm and he can run like there's no tomorrow. What's left?

Ballcox

11-29-2005, 05:47 PM

Marcus Bryant

11-29-2005, 05:57 PM

From watching McGee, and I know it was just one game, he just seemed to have a connection with his guys- the O linemen in particular. I hadn't seen an OL block like that against Texas all season. To me, you can tell when an offensive squad is really behind their QB, they sell out for that guy and they're trying to pancake anyone that gets in their way or tries to get to the QB. I saw that with the aggie OL playing against Texas, I didn't always see that when McNeal was the QB.

Fran hasn't exhibited an ability to motivate his players during his tenure at A&M. McGee did seem to bring that in last Friday's game. It's never a bad thing when one of your best players is also the most competitive.

Mr Dio

11-29-2005, 06:35 PM

Well, he's got a strong arm and he can run like there's no tomorrow. What's left?

A win over UT?

Mr Dio

11-29-2005, 06:35 PM

Fran hasn't exhibited an ability to motivate his players during his tenure at A&M. McGee did seem to bring that in last Friday's game. It's never a bad thing when one of your best players is also the most competitive.

Soooooo, if he were that good why was he sitting behind McNeal?

mookie2001

11-29-2005, 06:49 PM

shit imagine the spreads he'll cover as a SR!

Marcus Bryant

11-29-2005, 07:52 PM

Soooooo, if he were that good why was he sitting behind McNeal?

Perhaps because McNeal was fairly good in his own right.

mookie2001

11-29-2005, 07:59 PM

by winning % he was no chance mock

Marcus Bryant

11-29-2005, 08:07 PM

by winning % he was no chance mock

Young, Mock, et al never had to play with as poor a defense as McNeal had over the last 2 seasons. Not by a long shot.

Aggie Hoopsfan

11-29-2005, 08:22 PM

He used the same play a lot

Well, tell your boys to stop it :spin

-He was a little ballsy with his antics(getting up and asking UT's D-line to go ahead and do it again)...that pissed me off, you ain't that great yet, McGeeHe used the same play a lot

Get used to it ;) That's the way us Ags are.

mookie2001

11-29-2005, 08:30 PM

thats HOW they "Saw em off"

Aggie Hoopsfan

11-29-2005, 08:35 PM

yall aren't so obnoxious when you are winning

Too bad y'all are, and clueless to boot. Still waiting for another "Romance" > Reggie Bush thread. :lol

mookie2001

11-29-2005, 09:05 PM

Romance is better than Reggie Bush!

mookie2001

11-29-2005, 09:06 PM

until he obtains genre status

Horry For 3!

11-29-2005, 09:23 PM

He is a good option QB but he can't pass that good. He needs to work on passing a bit and A&M needs some WRs.

Aggie Hoopsfan

11-29-2005, 10:46 PM

He is a good option QB but he can't pass that good.

He threw for over 8000 yards in HS. He'll be fine.

mookie2001

11-29-2005, 10:59 PM

oh here we go
another steven mcgee "white jesus" thread

Aggie Hoopsfan

11-29-2005, 11:14 PM

Fuck, if you can have your circle jerk over Ramonce "going off" for five games that didn't even equal one game of Reggie Bush's, Ag fans can look forward to three more years of McGee without your SPS mucking it up.

Kdfelicity

11-29-2005, 11:16 PM

Well, tell your boys to stop it :spin

Get used to it ;) That's the way us Ags are.

My boys better keep on keepin on when it's time for powerhouse USC.

Hey! Who said you go in and edit my post, and put words in my mouth mister?! That's not right!

AHF, you don't think he was actin a little big for his britches?

Still waiting for another "Romance" :lol

I know I'm waiting on a little romance. There's nothin wrong with everyone having a little Romance...

Aggie Hoopsfan

11-29-2005, 11:22 PM

AHF, you don't think he was actin a little big for his britches?

Hell no, that was awesome. When a guy takes a hit that makes the whole stadium go "ooooooooh", gets up, says bring it on some more, then goes and rips off a 20 yd. TD run on the next play, that's what it's all about.

I know I'm waiting on a little romance.

:angel

Kdfelicity

11-29-2005, 11:27 PM

He's only a freshman though and weren't they saying it was his first big game as a starter?

In my book, you gotta earn your stripes first before you act all hard like that...

Marcus Bryant

11-29-2005, 11:29 PM

If he can bounce back after taking the hit he did, more power to him. Was he supposed to shake the LBs hand instead?

Aggie Hoopsfan

11-29-2005, 11:40 PM

No Marcus, he was supposed to stay down so all the sip fans could talk about that great hit that put the Ag QB out of the game :rolleyes

Kdfelicity

11-29-2005, 11:42 PM

I sense some hostility AHF, maybe you're the one who needs the romance...

Aggie Hoopsfan

11-30-2005, 12:43 AM

Maybe so.

That or a clone of myself for work. :bang

Kdfelicity

11-30-2005, 12:50 AM

Then you've got some Royal Caribbean coming...

No but really, you need some vacation, take your mind off work and the Aggies(sorry I had to) :p

FromWayDowntown

11-30-2005, 12:59 AM

Yeah, I wonder what the objecting Horns fans thought McGee was supposed to do?

Had I been his teammate and seen that, I'd have been stoked. You definitely get amped to play with guys who have that sort of attitude. When he's a freshman, making his first start in a huge rivalry game, and he shows that kind of enthusiasm and belief, it's contagious. I'm no Aggie fan, but I can say that I admire the way that kid played and the confidence that he brought to the table.

2centsworth

11-30-2005, 01:58 AM

Aggie played with more energy than I have seen in 3 years. Credit goes to McGee.

He's going to give people fits. Kinda of reminds me of Eric Couch but with a stronger arm.

mookie2001

11-30-2005, 11:13 AM

white jesus

Kdfelicity

11-30-2005, 03:06 PM

That's a racist remark mookie. Just come to my racism class, it's the same thing everyday, every white person is a racist.

Ballcox

11-30-2005, 03:31 PM

One other part to this, and this is information I got from some friends who are big time contributors to the a&m alumni foundation, is that there was a perception among his teammates that McNeal was above all of them, kind of a special treatment routine going on. From what I heard, there was a division on the team between those who were McNeal's 'boys' and other players who resented the speical treatment McNeal received. If there is one way to divide a team, that's it. It also brings to awareness even more how much harder that O-line played for McGee against UT, he was one of them-not some guy just waiting to get dollars when he signs his NFL contract. Keep in mind this is second hand information, but it makes sense when you look at how the team performed with McNeal and then how they played against UT. Just something to consider.

Kdfelicity

11-30-2005, 03:40 PM

You see what acting all high and mighty can do to a team(even your own), AHF?

Cant_Be_Faded

11-30-2005, 03:51 PM

I think the best statement in this thread was that using the same play over and over is NOT a bad thing, if it works

I was more pissed off at texas for not making adjustments than Fran calling the same play.
BTW, when this guy is a senior, I bet he covers every single spread for at least 3/4 a season. Maybe he'll even win more games then he loses, but thats a stretch, for now.

Kdfelicity

11-30-2005, 03:57 PM

I was more pissed off at texas for not making adjustments than Fran calling the same play.

My sentiments exactly CBF. They shoulda creamed him even harder when he made the same damn play on the other side of the field, I was thinkin to myself how can you not see that coming???

McGee made them look like suckers on that TD.

Cant_Be_Faded

11-30-2005, 04:02 PM

Texas did not make the hint of an adjustment in the first half. I thought the reason behind this was to save the alternate strategies for the second half. But when the second half came, they still did not make adjustments till the late 3rd quarter I believe.

And even then, they were insufficient. We know Texas could have stopped that option in its tracks after seeing it at least two or three times. But they didn't.
Thats why I think they were either hung over from Thanksgiving, or simply did not want to bust out the good stuff, and wanted to save it for the Rose Bowl. Texas never really "lost control" of the game, and their composure was never shaken, even when the aggies locked arms and swayed left, right, left, right.
Thus they had no reason to pull all the tricks out of the hat.

Extra Stout

11-30-2005, 04:42 PM

Fran hasn't exhibited an ability to motivate his players during his tenure at A&M.
He didn't exactly come to A&M on terms that would inspire a lot of respect for his authority.

Extra Stout

11-30-2005, 04:48 PM

It also brings to awareness even more how much harder that O-line played for McGee against UT, he was one of them-not some guy just waiting to get dollars when he signs his NFL contract. Keep in mind this is second hand information, but it makes sense when you look at how the team performed with McNeal and then how they played against UT. Just something to consider.
If McNeal were just looking out for his NFL dollars, he would have left after the 2004 season.

And if Reggie got special treatment, that's the coaches' fault.

And if I know A&M alumni like I think I do, they would peg McNeal as an uppity negro who needs to be put in his place and they would be the ones resenting the attention he receives, as opposed to his teammates.

Marcus Bryant

11-30-2005, 04:56 PM

He didn't exactly come to A&M on terms that would inspire a lot of respect for his authority.

Well, whatever loyalty remained on the team for Slocum should be gone by next season. If Fran's offensive creativity, that is the willingness to utilize trick plays such as the forward pass, could be combined with RC's defensive prowess, you'd have a pretty good team.

Marcus Bryant

11-30-2005, 04:57 PM

If McNeal were just looking out for his NFL dollars, he would have left after the 2004 season.

And if Reggie got special treatment, that's the coaches' fault.

And if I know A&M alumni like I think I do, they would peg McNeal as an uppity negro who needs to be put in his place and they would be the ones resenting the attention he receives, as opposed to his teammates.

Perhaps the 17 living members of the classes from the 30s and 40s think that way.

Marcus Bryant

11-30-2005, 04:59 PM

Extra Stout

11-30-2005, 05:01 PM

Perhaps the 17 living members of the classes from the 30s and 40s think that way.
I dunno... I've heard from mid-'90s graduates with such thoughtful social commentary as "Black churches are racist institutions. If black people weren't racist they'd go to white churches."

East Texas is still East Texas: a haven for those who find northern Louisiana too cosmopolitan and progressive.

Extra Stout

11-30-2005, 05:03 PM

Stephen McGee is a reasonable facsimile of St. Bucky, therefore he too will be venerated.

Marcus Bryant

11-30-2005, 05:06 PM

That's not exclusive to A&M alumni. I've heard worse from recent Texas grads and "fans" of their program. Still, in my experience, such attitudes have been the exception and not the rule.

Marcus Bryant

11-30-2005, 05:06 PM

Stephen McGee is a reasonable facsimile of St. Bucky, therefore he too will be venerated.

No doubt.

Extra Stout

11-30-2005, 05:07 PM

That's a racist remark mookie. Just come to my racism class, it's the same thing everyday, every white person is a racist.
Based upon these university definitions of racism, I struggle to see how any white person could avoid being a racist.

Apparently I am a racist simply by carrying out my daily routine.

mookie2001

11-30-2005, 07:11 PM

If they could've, they would've. The option isn't an easy look to adjust for, especially against a QB with good wheels.
proved my point
how many of these white jesus threads do we need?

Aggie Hoopsfan

11-30-2005, 07:40 PM

No but really, you need some vacation, take your mind off work and the Aggies(sorry I had to)

I agree on part 1 (but it ain't happen). :makemyday @ #2.

you see what acting all high and mighty can do to a team(even your own), AHF?

There's a difference between the egoism that was Reggie McNeal and the tough as nails leadership that McGee shows his teammates.

McGee reminds a lot of people of Major Applewhite. Not the biggest or strongest guy out there, but he's a winner, he's a leader, and he can rally the troops.

mookie2001

11-30-2005, 08:02 PM

he's a winner, he's a leader, and he can rally the troops.white jesus

Cant_Be_Faded

11-30-2005, 09:50 PM

If they could've, they would've. The option isn't an easy look to adjust for, especially against a QB with good wheels.

not necessarily, cuz the game was in their control the whole time

Marcus Bryant

12-01-2005, 02:28 PM

not necessarily, cuz the game was in their control the whole time

Surrrre. :lol

Marcus Bryant

12-01-2005, 02:29 PM

mcgee doesn't resemble major applewhite in any way except they're both white and play qb in the state of texas

mcgee is much much bigger and faster and probably has a stronger arm

Applewhite does seem to fit the 'white jesus' role mookie is obsessing over.

Marcus Bryant

12-01-2005, 02:30 PM

proved my point
how many of these white jesus threads do we need?

Funny, considering it wasn't an Ag fan who started this thread. Did some white people beat you when you were young?

Extra Stout

12-01-2005, 02:41 PM

what, are you a cop?
No.

But apparently if I go through my day without consciously observing the effects of my whiteness on others and feeling guilty about it, I am a racist.

Apparently, according to some liberal who told me this, since black people must consciously cope and adjust to the white society around them, if I am not consciously working to cope and adjust to the norms of black people, I am a racist.

And if I'm not really certain what any of that really means, it's because I'm a thoughtless ignorant bigot.

So I'm left to wonder, is every white person who is not a left-wing social science professor a racist?

2centsworth

12-01-2005, 03:01 PM

No.

But apparently if I go through my day without consciously observing the effects of my whiteness on others and feeling guilty about it, I am a racist.

Apparently, according to some liberal who told me this, since black people must consciously cope and adjust to the white society around them, if I am not consciously working to cope and adjust to the norms of black people, I am a racist.

And if I'm not really certain what any of that really means, it's because I'm a thoughtless ignorant bigot.

So I'm left to wonder, is every white person who is not a left-wing social science professor a racist?
next thing you know you'll say some of your best friends are black.

White guilt is funny.

Ballcox

12-01-2005, 04:03 PM

^Applewhite definitely had the white jesus syndrome thing going, but he did have some legitimate skills as a QB. Never would of made it at the NFL level, but a hell of a college QB. If only he had started that Big XII championship game against Colorado.....................well, can't relive the past.

Now I've got to go cut on myself for a while......... :drunk

Marcus Bryant

12-01-2005, 04:14 PM

next thing you know you'll say some of your best friends are black.

White guilt is funny.

What's funnier are those who spend their time blaming whites for their problems.

Extra Stout

12-01-2005, 04:19 PM

There's a difference between the egoism that was Reggie McNeal and the tough as nails leadership that McGee shows his teammates.

There a difference between a QB trying to execute an offensive scheme that the coaches themselves can't grasp, much less teach (McNeal, the spread option), and a QB carrying out a highly simplified scheme (McGee, the scaled-down running option).

It just proves that Franchione was outsmarting himself, not that McNeal is bling-bling while McGee represents good wholesome American values or whatever.

Extra Stout

12-01-2005, 04:22 PM

next thing you know you'll say some of your best friends are black.

White guilt is funny.
Some black coworker was trying to explain to me how I'm racially enlightened because of where I built my new house. I don't get it. What was he talking about?

Cant_Be_Faded

12-01-2005, 04:32 PM

Surrrre. :lol

Dude I was at the game, there wasn't one sign of Texas players or coaches being rattled.
Mack Brown is conservative, not bull headed. If the whole staff realized we were in trouble he would not keep doing the same thing. He'd change it up.

You're avatar is getting to your head if you seriously think Texas was not in control of that game the whole time. It's like when the Spurs get down by 6 points to the Bobcats even though every knowledgeable spurs fan knows they're still perfectly in control of the game due to various factors.

Vince Young did a typical interception thing, but he was way overdue for an interception anyway. He didn't come back rattled when we were down, he came back and ran the show.

I would bet my nutsack that even CORSO would agree.

BTW The reason Mookie started saying McGee is your white jesus is because you stupid aggies gave us shit for sucking Vince's D prior to his JUNIOR season, after proving himself and being on pace to become a record setter, possibly a heisman winner. You gave us shit for him being our Black Jesus.
You guys, on the other hand, are sucking McGee's D after one fucking game....

Marcus Bryant

12-01-2005, 04:42 PM

Dude I watched the game and they by no means had "control" of the game until they got the FG late.

Not sure what you saw differently from the 3rd deck.

Extra Stout

12-01-2005, 04:44 PM

You guys, on the other hand, are sucking McGee's D after one fucking game....
"We are the Aggies
The Aggies are we....
We're for white boys at QB."

Cant_Be_Faded

12-01-2005, 04:45 PM

The aggies gained massive yardage on that one trick play, other than that, McGee had like 2 really really good runs, and thats it.

They were playing one dimensional, sure they were unstoppable, in the sense we couldn't stop them from getting 2-11 yards on each run, but when the red zone came up, we fuckin put the clamps on. The red zone D was great for Texas in that game, considering the way A&M trudged straight to the endzone so many times.

Texas on the other hand was gaining yards in a multitude of ways, and the aggie defense had no answer to anything, except getting lucky on an inevitable shitty Vince Young pass

Cant_Be_Faded

12-01-2005, 04:46 PM

"We are the Aggies
The Aggies are we....
We're for white boys at QB."

:lol ain't that tha truth

Cant_Be_Faded

12-01-2005, 04:54 PM

The aggies scored 9 points within the last MINUTE of the 1st quarter.

And they still had like over 10 minutes more time of possession than texas.
The aggies had so many chances, they were forced to kick a field goal on their 2nd longest drive of the game, and actually missed a field goal when they had good momentum in the late 2nd.
McGee was an unexpected anomoly, texas could not stop him very effectively, but they still stopped him.
Aggies kept it close in the 3rd, but when judgement day came in the 4th quarter, that McGee bull shit didn't work (cuz he finally made..tada...adjustments) and aggies didn't score one single 4th quarter point.

Mack knew he could stop that bull shit if he really wanted to, he just didn't want to pull all his tricks out. He's conservative. But after dogfighting for the entire 3rd quarter, he utilized his supreme defense and locked down the gutless ags in their gutless boots.

Marcus Bryant

12-01-2005, 05:11 PM

Oh yes, Mack could've stopped it, but he didn't want to...

Cant_Be_Faded

12-01-2005, 05:14 PM

marcus you're playing dumb, it's all about keeping the enemy in the dark

is a&m our enemy? no...it's USC, and it has been all year. In past years, i would have got scared when a&m kept that game close, i would have been scared cuz Texas is known for blowing games like that...or at least was known. Vince Young has defied so many expectations, including mine, I never thought he'd become the player he is now, I thought he'd be a typical one trick pony..and the defense is living up to the fans' wildest dreams

Texas is just really really really good this year, and probably will never be this good for a very very long time. When aggies kept it close i swear I didn't even yell bad things or talk aggie trash or anything, i kept total composure, cuz there was no doubt in my mind that if this kept up, Mack would finally let the dogs out and put this shit to an end.

AND HE DID.
no fourth quarter points.

that's one fourth of the game you realize
Texas had 3 scoring opportunities that quarter alone and seized two of them.

Cant_Be_Faded

12-01-2005, 05:16 PM

There's no shame in admitting a&m is just an inferior team. It's called being realistic.

Marcus Bryant

12-01-2005, 05:17 PM

Mack used some mind control techniques to force the Aggies into going for the pass on 3rd and 2 in the red zone and planned the sack and fumble instead of handing the rock to Lane.

Cant_Be_Faded

12-01-2005, 05:21 PM

5 minute drive, 67 yards, mcgee fumbles due to the massive heat put on him in the form of Roderique Wright.

Cant_Be_Faded

12-01-2005, 05:39 PM

In the end, it comes down to three options:

1) Aggie's offensive line was really incredibly bad ass, but waited until the last game of hte season to show it

2) Texas' defense was really bad ass, but did not show up last friday until the 4th quarter of the last regular season game

3) A&M gave Texas problems due to the dynamics of matchups, schemes, etc

I think number 1 is pretty implausbile, number 2 is what I believe in, and I don't believe number 3 because I've seen teams try some of that shit before and it didn't work against us.

mookie2001

12-01-2005, 08:16 PM

I think because it was a "one possesion" game peoples chodes exploded a little
they werent down by 2, the chances of them scoring a TD then converting for 2 pts, then holding Texas, then winning in overtime were very slim

although what else can you say
the ags played great and lost by 11 at home
they were happy and so was I

Mr Dio

12-01-2005, 09:10 PM

atm never really had a chance to win that game

maybe next year

seriously doubt it.
maybe in 2 yrs back @ cs.

Aggie Hoopsfan

12-01-2005, 11:25 PM

There a difference between a QB trying to execute an offensive scheme that the coaches themselves can't grasp, much less teach (McNeal, the spread option), and a QB carrying out a highly simplified scheme (McGee, the scaled-down running option).

I guess you missed McGee running the spread option at times in the game. Nice try though.

Dude I was at the game, there wasn't one sign of Texas players or coaches being rattled.

Well, I was watching it on ABC and the tv folks were all but breaking out the telestrator to draw circles around Vince's pouting, depressed little head on the sidelines.

Aggie Hoopsfan

12-01-2005, 11:28 PM

marcus you're playing dumb, it's all about keeping the enemy in the dark

is a&m our enemy? no...it's USC, and it has been all year.

You're the dumbass.

I'll clue you in as you apparently don't watch a lot of football: USC has run the option about zero times this year.

I'm not sure what dark you're planning on keeping them in, but I don't think it's gonna work out too well for you.

Cant_Be_Faded

12-01-2005, 11:31 PM

So a defensive scheme to better protect the strong side of the field automatically only works against options?

There is no shame in admitting your team was inferior. Yall lost by 11 at home and you proclaim blasphemy, I'm just looking from the other side of the box at the same result.

Cant_Be_Faded

12-02-2005, 05:17 AM

gutless gutles ags

samikeyp

12-02-2005, 11:11 AM

The Ags kept going back to the same play because it worked. McGee was a stud. Looks like the Ags have their QB of the future.

mookie2001

12-02-2005, 11:13 AM

^he's almost like the ag savior...or a white jesus

Mr Dio

12-02-2005, 12:40 PM

I don't think VY will be as bored with the Buffs as he was in the anm game. He looked so bored & never got into a groove. On tv he looked like he was trying to remember the name of a restaurant he ate at in LA this past Jan.

Not bad, 40pts in the worst game of the yr & the last 2 times UT has won by under 3 TDs they came back to score in the 60s I think.

CO is cooked.
USC is going to be a good game.

Mr Dio

12-03-2005, 03:42 PM

Wow, with over half the 3rd qtr left VY looks as bored as he did in the ag game.
:lmao

hussker

12-03-2005, 04:56 PM

Hahaha!

Kdfelicity

12-03-2005, 11:02 PM

But apparently if I go through my day without consciously observing the effects of my whiteness on others and feeling guilty about it, I am a racist.

Apparently, according to some liberal who told me this, since black people must consciously cope and adjust to the white society around them, if I am not consciously working to cope and adjust to the norms of black people, I am a racist.

So I'm left to wonder, is every white person who is not a left-wing social science professor a racist?

Wow sounds like my class exactly. Only if we don't observe the same, then we're racist and we have to admit it or we can't make a good grade in the class. So yea we all are racist looks like... :rolleyes

SWC Bonfire

12-05-2005, 10:39 AM

Well, I took a week off to travel to India, climb into the mountains and seek the advice of a wise sherpa. He told me thus:

"Though it may seem as though you have decended into a lower level of hell with the current A&M programme (he was educated in the UK and spells like a Brit), the net result is that it is a positive for A&M football if Texas wins the contest betwixt USC and itself. Then, when the Fighting Texas Aggies beat Texas in the future, they not only beat the team, but they will beat the name. The weight among poll voters will be shifted accordingly for all Texas teams, as wins over the university in Austin will count for more, and close losses will not be penalized as much in the polls.

"Also, sipping tea is bad for your teeth. Look at the British."

Is that all, wise sherpa?

"Not all, my friend. All is not lost. Texas-Texas A&M series is still only tied in your lifetime. Now live well, and do you have an IT job for my son in America?"

Thank you, all-knowing sherpa, I feel better now. Now I can mourn the passing of A&M defensive coordinator and get on with my life. :tu

mookie2001

12-05-2005, 11:03 AM

it wouldnt even THAT be stupid to annoint McGee as the savior...
IF Reggie McNeal would have sucked really bad
but he was good, and even if youre really optimistic and say McGee is going to be as good or even better, the ags will still suck

SWC Bonfire

12-05-2005, 11:18 AM

THE SECOND COMING OF BUCKY. :lol

Mr Dio

12-05-2005, 07:29 PM

If McGee plays with anywhere near that intensity in the future & gets 2-3 players on each side of the ball to be as fired up as he is, that would make the ags quite a force.

hussker

12-05-2005, 07:33 PM

If McGee plays with anywhere near that intensity in the future & gets 2-3 players on each side of the ball to be as fired up as he is, that would make the ags quite a force.

I agree, as long as those two to three players on each side of the ball are O-Linemen...He is tough, but I am not sure how much of THAT punishment he can take game in/out.

mookie2001

12-05-2005, 07:34 PM

the problem is, come gameday, youve still got Fran as your coach

Extra Stout

12-05-2005, 11:38 PM

Wow sounds like my class exactly. Only if we don't observe the same, then we're racist and we have to admit it or we can't make a good grade in the class. So yea we all are racist looks like... :rolleyes
My black coworker was trying to explain to me how integration was racist because it destroyed the black middle class and black social infrastructure.

Or, at least the way integration was done was racist because of the assumption that blacks were being "allowed" into the "superior" white society.

He was saying that integration should have been done more slowly so that black business owners could take advantage of newfound civil rights to get bank loans and such so that their businesses could compete on equal footing with white-owned businesses. Instead, we did integration real quick-like and they all went out of business.

Example: the baseball Negro Leagues. Everybody lauds the addition of Jackie Robinson to the Brooklyn Dodgers, but nobody ever thought about making the Kansas City Monarchs or Homestead Grays Major League teams.

I think if we can figure out a way to say that racism can be as much a result of just cluelessness as of hate, then we'll get somewhere. Because I don't hate anybody, but I don't get it either.

Except in College Station. Those crackers are hopeless. Good luck with Stephen McGee, you redneck honky hillbilly Aggies.

hussker

12-05-2005, 11:46 PM

My black coworker was trying to explain to me how integration was racist because it destroyed the black middle class and black social infrastructure.

Or, at least the way integration was done was racist because of the assumption that blacks were being "allowed" into the "superior" white society.

He was saying that integration should have been done more slowly so that black business owners could take advantage of newfound civil rights to get bank loans and such so that their businesses could compete on equal footing with white-owned businesses. Instead, we did integration real quick-like and they all went out of business.

Example: the baseball Negro Leagues. Everybody lauds the addition of Jackie Robinson to the Brooklyn Dodgers, but nobody ever thought about making the Kansas City Monarchs or Homestead Grays Major League teams.

I think if we can figure out a way to say that racism can be as much a result of just cluelessness as of hate, then we'll get somewhere. Because I don't hate anybody, but I don't get it either.

Except in College Station. Those crackers are hopeless. Good luck with Stephen McGee, you redneck honky hillbilly Aggies.

Take it to the Politics forum to spew your nasty, no basis agenda.
<---Whispers to Extra Stout: "People will actually agree with you there, here, no one really cares... "

:)

Extra Stout

12-06-2005, 10:28 AM

Take it to the Politics forum to spew your nasty, no basis agenda.
<---Whispers to Extra Stout: "People will actually agree with you there, here, no one really cares... "

:)
They have a new tradition at A&M where Aggies get all liquored up at the Chicken and then go loiter around the apartments in Northgate looking for some international students to beat up.

If I understand the lingo correctly, this makes the international students "red ass." Maybe that only applies if the international students help build Bonfire.

Anyway, if Vince Young had gone to A&M, right about now Aggies would be blasting him left and right as a showboating prima donna and calling for him to be benched.

hussker

12-06-2005, 06:45 PM

They have a new tradition at A&M where Aggies get all liquored up at the Chicken and then go loiter around the apartments in Northgate looking for some international students to beat up.

If I understand the lingo correctly, this makes the international students "red ass." Maybe that only applies if the international students help build Bonfire.

Anyway, if Vince Young had gone to A&M, right about now Aggies would be blasting him left and right as a showboating prima donna and calling for him to be benched.

Take it to the Politics forum to spew your nasty, no basis agenda.
<---Whispers to Extra Stout: "People will actually agree with you there, here, no one really cares... "

batman2883

12-06-2005, 06:54 PM

I'd kill myself and make sure that all the longhorns football team got a turn on my g/f and my mother thats the only way that god would let me into heaven if i were an aggies fan.....god doesnt care about aggies....he showed that once before

hussker

12-06-2005, 07:03 PM

batman2883

12-06-2005, 07:04 PM

Very tasteful!
i aim to please

hussker

12-06-2005, 07:05 PM

i aim to please

Probably while sitting...

Extra Stout

12-07-2005, 09:11 AM

god doesnt care about aggies....he showed that once before
Of course he does... see history through 1998. Aggies always have been dumb and reckless. Who do you think was protecting them all those years?

SWC Bonfire

12-07-2005, 09:38 AM

Of course he does... see history through 1998. Aggies always have been dumb and reckless. Who do you think was protecting them all those years?

The Aggies built Hart Hall.

God airconditioned it for many years. The world was good.

They began to put A/C window units into Hart Hall. The misfortunes of the football team changed accordingly.

Evidently, even God Himself is pissed that Non-Air Hart has been co-opted by wussified air conditioners.

Extra Stout

12-07-2005, 09:48 AM

The Aggies built Hart Hall.

God airconditioned it for many years. The world was good.

They began to put A/C window units into Hart Hall. The misfortunes of the football team changed accordingly.

Evidently, even God Himself is pissed that Non-Air Hart has been co-opted by wussified air conditioners.
God decided that if A&M wouldn't do the sensible thing and assign a wrecking crew to demolish Hart Hall, then A&M wouldn't get to have a Wrecking Crew at all.

SWC Bonfire

12-07-2005, 10:05 AM

Cant_Be_Faded

12-07-2005, 11:07 AM

I'm telling you
the path to rebuilding goes like this:

1) construct a train station, preferrably a junction
2) hold practices there
3) make a movie about it

Extra Stout

12-07-2005, 11:18 AM

I'm telling you
the path to rebuilding goes like this:

1) construct a train station, preferrably a junction
2) hold practices there
3) make a movie about it
Well that coach came from the state of Alabama, and eventually went back there and became a legend.

So they thought if they could get a Texan to come back from coaching Alabama, he would become a legend. It hasn't worked.

Maybe they should try looking for another coach who castrates bulls in front of his team and commits recruiting violations.

Extra Stout

12-07-2005, 11:29 AM

Hart Hall Supergrode Yell

Hart Hall
F*ck 'em all
P*ssy, c*nt, cl*t.
Grab a t*t,
Suck a sl*t,
Sure is fun but tastes like sh*t.
Through the ramp
Into bed
Give us head
'Till we're dead.
Eat sh*t Puryear,
F*ck you, Law,
Wish you could be Hart F*cking Hall.

FYI, Law and Puryear are gone... and that didn't jump A&M into the national championship in 1995.

Look at us!
We can cuss!
Away from home!
Make a fuss!

Mommy, daddy,
They aren't here!
Let's chant bad words!
There's no fear!

We're so grown up!
Hear us shout!
It's tradition!
Without a doubt!

Cant_Be_Faded

12-07-2005, 11:43 AM

I'll still never forget when that Agg punched mookie right in the face and his nose bled for about 2 hours

Extra Stout

12-07-2005, 11:46 AM

I'll still never forget when that Agg punched mookie right in the face and his nose bled for about 2 hours
Did he punch mookie in the nose because he was a teasip fan, or because he was acting too uppity?

Extra Stout

12-07-2005, 12:04 PM

once again, the aggie backhanded mookie bc mookie pretended to throw up in said aggies lap. the aggie spilt his own beer and go tpissed
mookie is lucky. Causing an Aggie to spill his beer is a criminal offense in Brazos County. mookie could have ended up in one of those pound-me-on-the-ass-with-an-axe-handle prisons there.

SWC Bonfire

12-07-2005, 12:13 PM

mookie is lucky. Causing an Aggie to spill his beer is a criminal offense in Brazos County. mookie could have ended up in one of those pound-me-on-the-ass-with-an-axe-handle prisons there.

Got some experience in the Brazos County jail, ES? Sounds like you went to the "pokey" in more ways than one. :lol