A good read on west coast water

[CosmicCowboy]

https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/the-biggest-potential-water-disaster-in-the-united-states

[Thread]

Eh, when they close the golf courses and car washes then I'll buy it. Otherwise? Uh, uh.

[Winehole23]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=273688

[CosmicCowboy]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=273688

If you had read the article instead of immediately snarking you would have realized it had nothing to do with the Colorado River or Lake Powell/Mead.

[Winehole23]

If you had read the article instead of immediately snarking you would have realized it had nothing to do with the Colorado River or Lake Powell/Mead.no snark intended, it's one big drought they're having out west.

I liked the article, it was a good read.

[Winehole23]

lol "nothing to do"

[CosmicCowboy]

no snark intended, it's one big drought they're having out west.

lol nothing to do

:lol

Oh my! i started a thread Whinehole said should have been included in another.

And that's coming from the asshole that starts 10 shit copy/paste threads a day.

[Winehole23]

:lol

Oh my! i started a thread Whinehole said should have been included in another..except, I said no such thing. related things are related, is all.

my like was sincere, I like that you're posting about this.

[Winehole23]

If you had read the article instead of immediately snarking you would have realized it had nothing to do with the Colorado River or Lake Powell/Mead.Turn it around on yourself, brainiac

:lol


Near the middle of the picnic table, maybe three feet from the edge that represented the Oregon border, was a small label indicating “The Delta.” It marked what Lund described as the most important element of California’s plumbing: an expanse of some seven hundred thousand acres, east of the Bay Area, formed by the confluence of several rivers, the largest of which are the Sacramento and the San Joaquin. For tens of millions of Californians, the Delta—which is also known as the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta, the Bay-Delta, and the California Delta—serves as a hydrological hub. “The Delta ties everything together,” Lund said. All the fresh water that farms and cities in the south import from the north comes from it. Not far from our picnic table, large pumping stations were sending Delta water to other parts of the state.

In 2014, while I was researching an article (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/05/25/the-disappearing-river) and a book (https://www.amazon.com/Where-Water-Goes-David-Owen-audiobook/dp/B06Y5CV8BG?ots=1&slotNum=0&imprToken=2ec05a03-8d5e-7f19-987&tag=thneyo0f-20&linkCode=w50) about the Colorado River, I interviewed Pat Mulroy, who had recently retired as the general manager of the Southern Nevada Water Authority and had just become a fellow at the University of Nevada’s law school. She surprised me by saying that the condition of the Delta—which lies several hundred miles outside the Colorado’s watershed and which I’d only just heard of—posed as grave a threat to the Colorado’s long-term stability as the shockingly low water levels I’d seen in its two largest reservoirs, Lake Powell and Lake Mead. Seven Western states and Mexico divert water from the Colorado, which for decades has been depleted by drought (https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/californias-drought-may-be-over-but-its-water-troubles-arent) and unsustainable use. As Mulroy and I spoke, California was already being forced to reduce its withdrawals. The Delta is crucial because, if it ever failed as a hub, the resulting water crisis in California would increase existing tensions with the Colorado’s other parched dependents. “One good earthquake would do it,” Mulroy said.

[CosmicCowboy]

Turn it around on yourself, brainiac

:lol

Glad you went back and read the first paragraph. Now read the rest and you will see it isn't discussing the drought.

[Winehole23]

Now read the rest and you will see it isn't discussing the drought.the drought is the broader context for the whole political discussion, but you're right: sea-level rise/penetration as well as the limitations and drawbacks of terraforming and environmental regulation are also discussed. would you like to discuss those instead?

[Winehole23]

Glad you went back and read the first paragraph.This paragraph's right in the middle. :lol


Every Delta-related water issue has been complicated by the ongoing Western drought. (Tree-ring analysis shows the past two decades were the driest in more than a thousand years.) Under ideal circumstances, surface water and groundwater are complementary resources: in dry years, increased groundwater pumping makes up for the lower surface flows, while in wet years heavy precipitation allows subterranean aquifers to recharge. But the drought has changed all that, by stressing all resources at once.

[Winehole23]

keeps coming up throughout


The real problem in California and the rest of the West isn’t a shortage of water storage; it’s a shortage of water.

[Winehole23]

what do you think of this suggestion, CC?


George believes that, because of the water issues, there’s no alternative to fallowing large amounts of farmland in the San Joaquin Valley. Urbanites will have to cut back, too—the vegetation that most Angelenos think of as the natural flora of their delightful region, including the palm and citrus trees, is both irrigation-dependent and non-native—but the only way to make truly meaningful reductions is to limit water use by agriculture.

[CosmicCowboy]

the drought is the broader context for the whole political discussion, but you're right: sea-level rise/penetration as well as the limitations and drawbacks of terraforming and environmental regulation are also discussed. would you like to discuss those instead?

I think the article covered the points nicely.

Hopefully the non-assholes will appreciate it instead of trying to turn it into another confrontation they can claim a "win" on like you do.

[CosmicCowboy]

what do you think of this suggestion, CC?

cutting back on agriculture in California is inevitable.

[Winehole23]

I think the article covered the points nicely.

Hopefully the non-assholes will appreciate it instead of trying to turn it into another confrontation they can claim a "win" on like you do.except I didn't do anything of the sort, you're the one who got snarky and combative. all I did was point out your mistakes and misstatements.

[Winehole23]

(as usual, CC gets thrown off balance by his own irritibility and his personal grudges.)

[CosmicCowboy]

except I didn't do anything of the sort, you're the one who got snarky and combative. all I did was point out your mistakes and misstatements.

LOL mistakes and misstatements

innocent Whinehole

[boutons_deux]

1/3 of electricity in CA is consumed by moving water

[Winehole23]

LOL mistakes and misstatements

innocent Whineholecrankypants CC. is that a potato or a pantload in your shorts?

:lol

[SnakeBoy]

Crying because someone didn't post in your old shitty thread

lol sad grandpa

[CosmicCowboy]

crankypants CC. is that a potato or a pantload in your shorts?

:lol

Oh good one Whinehole! You will be ready for middle school soon with those high quality insults.

[Winehole23]

Oh good one Whinehole! You will be ready for middle school soon with those high quality insults.You shitting yourself immediately was hilarious

[CosmicCowboy]

You shitting yourself immediately was hilarious

and Whinehole declares himself the "winner" again.

How sadly predictable.

[DMC]

WH is on tilt. Must be stressful to see impending doom and point it out constantly in threads he won't even wait long enough for a response to before posting yet another random couple of tweets to point out yet another example... then everyone basically ignoring and shitting on him. All the while the doom is still a no show.