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K...
05-23-2022, 07:46 AM
Is the whole "spurs only scout the combine" really something more than that the scouts stopped scouting during Covid? Also that coach turnover led to less scouting during the season

Mr. Body
05-23-2022, 07:48 AM
Is the whole "spurs only scout the combine" really something more than that the scouts stopped scouting during Covid? Also that coach turnover led to less scouting during the season

I think Samanic did well at the combine, so it's been going on for a bit.

exstatic
05-23-2022, 08:27 AM
Is the whole "spurs only scout the combine" really something more than that the scouts stopped scouting during Covid? Also that coach turnover led to less scouting during the season

It’s not even remotely true. There was only one year of limited or no travel. What IS true is that they seem to give more weight to what happens at the combine than in the past. That’s not the same as only scouting the combine.

John B
05-23-2022, 08:42 AM
It’s not even remotely true. There was only one year of limited or no travel. What IS true is that they seem to give more weight to what happens at the combine than in the past. That’s not the same as only scouting the combine.

It’s what they “missed” on Samanic which in the past they’ve been very good at, delving into a person’s character than anything else, and seemed to zoomed their lenses on Samanic’s performance at the Combine, apparently neglecting other steps, uncharacteristic of Spurs really. And in Primo, while still very early, might seem they see something “deeper” that others are only looking skin deep, seems doing their homework while going against everybody else. With Weiskamp it’s more obvious, someone who can be a deadly shooter and yet being very athletic having a tremendous vertical, as opposed to lately Bryn, Beli and Patty-type sharpshooters.

All performed very well at the Combined, and yes seemed to play a relatively bigger role on their selection.

mo7888
05-23-2022, 08:56 AM
I wouldn’t be surprised if PATFO has a selection from one of those, as they’ve recently heavily relied on, as shown on their picks of Samanic, Primo and Weiskamp, all performing very well at the Combine.

I think there's real interest in Procida... I'm not sure where he's at on most boards but he has to be moving up after the combine.

Biggems
05-23-2022, 09:35 AM
I feel like who fuckin cares if he's gay or not, if he's good at basketball he belongs on my fav team no doubt.

I agree...Gay or Straight....doesn't mean shit to me. What can he do with the rock in his hands....what can he do on the defensive end. Can he lock down people on the perimeter? Can he effectively jump passing lanes? Can he attack the glass and secure needed rebounds? Is he a solid passer? Is he efficient with his shooting? Is he coachable and team oriented? This is what matters, not who he is sharing his bedroom with...

Biggems
05-23-2022, 09:37 AM
I wish I were bisexual. Opens up the entire population.

just commit a felony and go to prison.....they will bring the other side out of you, willingly or not.

Ariel
05-23-2022, 09:39 AM
I think there's real interest in Procida... I'm not sure where he's at on most boards but he has to be moving up after the combine.
At this point, he's probably the first option for no. 38, maybe even he receives consideration for no. 25 if the pick isn't used in a trade (whether up or for future pick). His potential, height, athletic profile, shooting, and draft & stash status should make him a very enticing prospect for the Spurs.

Biggems
05-23-2022, 09:41 AM
Spurs fans: how could we have drafted Primo based on the combine? Doh!

Also Spurs fans: Jalen Williams is killing it at the combine. We must draft him!

I watched his videos from about a handful of games. He scores because he is a black hole on offense. He is a volume shooter, lacks accuracy, and he doesn't come across as very athletic too me. He doesn't seem to have great hops. Also, he seems a moment slow to react on the court.

I just don't get the hype for him at 9.

mo7888
05-23-2022, 09:47 AM
At this point, he's probably the first option for no. 38, maybe even he receives consideration for no. 25 if the pick isn't used in a trade (whether up or for future pick). His potential, height, athletic profile, shooting, and draft & stash status should make him a very enticing prospect for the Spurs.

I'm leaning on being all in for him at 25... I'd like to see what comes from a workout with us before I commit but I'm leaning that way based on the attributes you cited...

KingKev
05-23-2022, 09:50 AM
I agree...Gay or Straight....doesn't mean shit to me. What can he do with the rock in his hands....what can he do on the defensive end. Can he lock down people on the perimeter? Can he effectively jump passing lanes? Can he attack the glass and secure needed rebounds? Is he a solid passer? Is he efficient with his shooting? Is he coachable and team oriented? This is what matters, not who he is sharing his bedroom with...

All very versatile and universally applicable skills both basketball and extra curricular.

I’d add can he bang with the big fellas down-low? How is his stamina? Can he shoot from deep? How does he deal with load management, especially a big one? Is he comfortable with multiple positions? Etc etc

Biggems
05-23-2022, 09:58 AM
All very versatile and universally applicable skills both basketball and extra curricular.

I’d add can he bang with the big fellas down-low? How is his stamina? Can he shoot from deep? How does he deal with load management, especially a big one? Is he comfortable with multiple positions? Etc etc

Well, if he is a SF, low post stamina is not as important as if he were a PF or C. On a positive note, the days of the classic low post bangers are pretty much behind us. There are only a few low post bangers left in the league, sadly. I miss the days of the high low and heavy pick and roll game. Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy scoring in the 100s, but I am not a huge fan of 3pt chuck fests.

Biggems
05-23-2022, 09:59 AM
How would y'all feel if we drafted

Tari Eason
EJ Liddell
Walker Kessler
Gabriele Procida

rjv
05-23-2022, 10:21 AM
i'd be okay with taking procida with the 38th pick and then stashing him but i don't know what his camp thinks about him staying overseas.

mo7888
05-23-2022, 10:49 AM
How would y'all feel if we drafted

Tari Eason
EJ Liddell
Walker Kessler
Gabriele Procida

As of now I'm probably good with Tari at #20, EJ or Procida at #25, and Kessler at #38

exstatic
05-23-2022, 10:59 AM
How would y'all feel if we drafted

Tari Eason
EJ Liddell
Walker Kessler
Gabriele Procida

I hate Kessler. His big skill, shot blocking, isn't going to translate, and he knows it, skipping the combine strength and agility testing even though he's nowhere near the top of the draft. If you're slated in the top 10, OK, skip what you want. If you're not, you're hiding some deficit. He just gives me a Big Country Reeves vibe, a guy who destroyed everyone's shot in college, and busted out hard in the NBA.

rjv
05-23-2022, 11:04 AM
I hate Kessler. His big skill, shot blocking, isn't going to translate, and he knows it, skipping the combine strength and agility testing even though he's nowhere near the top of the draft. If you're slated in the top 10, OK, skip what you want. If you're not, you're hiding some deficit. He just gives me a Big Country Reeves vibe, a guy who destroyed everyone's shot in college, and busted out hard in the NBA.

not exactly the comp that any player wants to have.

rascal
05-23-2022, 11:29 AM
I hate Kessler. His big skill, shot blocking, isn't going to translate, and he knows it, skipping the combine strength and agility testing even though he's nowhere near the top of the draft. If you're slated in the top 10, OK, skip what you want. If you're not, you're hiding some deficit. He just gives me a Big Country Reeves vibe, a guy who destroyed everyone's shot in college, and busted out hard in the NBA.

No need for Kessler if Poeltl is still on the team.

Stay away if possible but if Poeltl is traded he may be a cheap option.

Man In Black
05-23-2022, 03:19 PM
What’s the point of measuring both shoeless and in shoes when guys wear different shoes? I’m 5’9 barefoot, 5’11 in my J’s but easily 6’5 in stripper heels ��

Because the NBA said so.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/10/nba-heights-new-official-durant-zion

TD 21
05-23-2022, 03:43 PM
Mitch Kupchak from an interview after his extension. Take it with a grain of salt but still….

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I can't see whatever it is you're trying to show me.

KingKev
05-23-2022, 04:06 PM
Because the NBA said so.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/10/nba-heights-new-official-durant-zion

No shit, shoeless measurements are the benchmark and have been for a few years and that makes sense. I was asking why anyone bothers with both both shoes and shoeless.

PhantomDashCam
05-23-2022, 04:07 PM
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Degoat
05-23-2022, 05:01 PM
Calling it now, spurs draft Dominick Barlow. Same reps as Primo

rankingtear
05-24-2022, 08:42 AM
Sochan shot bad at his own pro day workout?

The Truth #6
05-24-2022, 09:25 AM
Calling it now, spurs draft Dominick Barlow. Same reps as Primo

Can't wait to read inside gossip about his growth plates.

Trill Clinton
05-24-2022, 09:45 AM
SIAP Spurs met with Patrick Baldwin Jr, MarJon Beauchamp and John Butler JR.

rjv
05-24-2022, 09:48 AM
SIAP Spurs met with Patrick Baldwin Jr, MarJon Beauchamp and John Butler JR.

i could see any of these going at 25.

Trill Clinton
05-24-2022, 09:54 AM
i could see any of these going at 25.

Out of the 3 I'd take Butler Jr. Flordia State produces hoopers and he's a 19 yr old 7'1 wing??? Let him marinate in the G League for a year and pack on some size and see what happens.

mo7888
05-24-2022, 10:29 AM
Out of the 3 I'd take Butler Jr. Flordia State produces hoopers and he's a 19 yr old 7'1 wing??? Let him marinate in the G League for a year and pack on some size and see what happens.

I kinda like Butler too... I think 25 is too high right now but I wouldn't necessarily be against reaching for him there as a boom or bust prospect.. I'd probably reach for Procida ahead of him because I think he has a higher floor but I could understand going with the higher upside pick there

rjv
05-24-2022, 10:31 AM
I kinda like Butler too... I think 25 is too high right now but I wouldn't necessarily be against reaching for him there as a boom or bust prospect.. I'd probably reach for Procida ahead of him because I think he has a higher floor but I could understand going with the higher upside pick there

what would be nice about procida is that you could stash him overseas, assuming his camp is agreeable to that.

The Truth #6
05-24-2022, 10:54 AM
I had heard earlier that Butler likely was staying in school. If he's going pro, he definitely should be a player they look into and see where he's at.

Biggems
05-25-2022, 12:20 PM
I kinda like Butler too... I think 25 is too high right now but I wouldn't necessarily be against reaching for him there as a boom or bust prospect.. I'd probably reach for Procida ahead of him because I think he has a higher floor but I could understand going with the higher upside pick there

I think Butler would make a nice long-term project. He does need to add some muscle to that frame. I feel a year or two in our G-League program will help his growth tremendously. He seems to want to play like Durant. However, whereas Durant is a Silver Dollar, at this moment Butler is a mere penny. However, you cannot teach size, length, and youth. He has all 3 of those qualities.