Spurs Mock Draft 1.0: Picking at 9, 20, 25 and 38 for the Spurs

[scott]

I'd love to take a shot like that, but Keldon Johnson types aren't that hard to find so doesn't really sweeten the pot for me if I'm Houston.

I think this is an interesting conversation... so I'm going to push it a little more. Would if we take Ariel's deal but now its Vassell instead of Keldon?

[Ariel]

Watching tape of AJ Griffin, he seems to me exactly the kind of player that amateur draft pundits like us typically underrate.

He lacks elite size. He lacks elite athleticism. His physical measurements don’t jump off the page. In short, he doesn’t have a lot of flashy “upside.”

But man, the kid can seriously play basketball. He could be the best wing scorer on the team from day one and would be a candidate for making the All-Rookie team.
He can SERIOUSLY shoot... he's a sniper, actually. Other than that, he looks 40 to me. I have more lift on my legs than he does. And his injury history is long like a phone book. No way I'm betting on that.

[gilmor2002]

Yeah, I made a mistake. What else is new? All the Spurs haters are ing tonight. I just took a xanax so I'm kind of mellowing down. And I've recently started to reconsider suicide. And before you me out or call me a pussy, this has nothing to do with the draft lottery. I'm miserable right now in my life and I'm starting to come to a breaking point. I'm stuck at a dead end job with ty pay and I get treated like a piece of too there. No respect at all. I am a hopeless piece of and prick. I wasted 5 and a half years in college in the hopes of possibly getting a good paying job or at least a decent paying job. I've been stuck in retail for almost 3 years making a whopping 15K a year. How am I ever going to be happy making ty money like that? Sorry for the rant, I think it's the xanax kicking in.

Take heart.. i had it worse.. much worse

[Mr. Body]

Have you seen him play? He fits this team like a glove.

I sure as hell wouldn't trade future top picks for him.

[PhantomDashCam]

Watching tape of AJ Griffin, he seems to me exactly the kind of player that amateur draft pundits like us typically underrate.

He lacks elite size. He lacks elite athleticism. His physical measurements don’t jump off the page. In short, he doesn’t have a lot of flashy “upside.”

But man, the kid can seriously play basketball. He could be the best wing scorer on the team from day one and would be a candidate for making the All-Rookie team.

The kid could've gone a long way to dispel any doubts by participating in Combine testing...
He'll likely be invited to Green Room, be selected outside of the lottery and you'll hear stories on draft night about his medical history being the main concern for a team's hesitancy.

He'll then get picked by say, Brooklyn and the media will proclaim they got the Steal of the Draft.

[Mr. Body]

Watching tape of AJ Griffin, he seems to me exactly the kind of player that amateur draft pundits like us typically underrate.

He lacks elite size. He lacks elite athleticism. His physical measurements don’t jump off the page. In short, he doesn’t have a lot of flashy “upside.”

But man, the kid can seriously play basketball. He could be the best wing scorer on the team from day one and would be a candidate for making the All-Rookie team.

He's poor defensively, is poor athletically, and often can't really dribble. I'm not sure I even believe in his shot, either. Definitely not an All-Rookie. He might struggle to stay on the floor. If he does play, he'll require players to set him up constantly. He's like a bigger Bryn Forbes.

[rascal]

Would #9 and two unprotected future FRP's be enough to get #3 from Houston? Think they'd do it?

Don't trade unprotected FRP. Those could be future franchise players. The Spurs could be really bad next year.

[baseline bum]

I think this is an interesting conversation... so I'm going to push it a little more. Would if we take Ariel's deal but now its Vassell instead of Keldon?

Trade them both if there is someone they're in love with at #3 who won't be there at #9. But not unprotected picks. Hell Pop could retire this summer or next and then the Spurs will tank whether they want to or not.

[RC_Drunkford]

If the Spurs can get #3 from Houston without overpaying they should go for it. That's obviously a long shot. The more realistic target to me is Keegan Murray. It's possible that he falls a few spots due to age and we'd only have to move up 2-3 spots to get him. That seems possible. Players on the table should be Poeltl and J-Rich for the right deal. The Spurs have a whole lot of options this offseason, they have to find a way to significantly upgrade the roster. Everything else would be a disappointment.

[BackHome]

Im starting to buy the Deing hype, at least if we’re choosing between him, Griffin, Davis, Mathurian and that tranche. Impressive tools and size, even though he’ll need a few years

Welcome to the house of Dieng...:flag:

[Drom John]

USA Today | 2022 NBA consensus mock draft 3.0: How the internet is projecting the first round after order was set
Charles Curtis, May 20, 2022


That means it’s time for another consensus mock draft, in which we round up the internet’s takes on who’s taking whom in the first round. We’re using, of course, our latest NBA mock draft from Bryan Kalbrosky, along with ones from The Athletic, ESPN, Bleacher Report, SI.com, NBAdraft.net and The Ringer.

We’ll average out where each prospect was taken at in the first round, and any player left off a mock will be marked as No. 31.
I'd view this as "best available" at our picks, rather than "Spurs will pick."


9
San Antonio Spurs: Johnny Davis (Wisconsin Badgers: Guard, Sophomore, 6-5)

Average: 9.57 Best: 7 Worst: 14


20
San Antonio Spurs (from Toronto Raptors): David Roddy (Colorado State Rams: Wing, Junior, 6-5)

Average: 21 Best: 21 Worst: Out of the first round

If someone's who's best is 21 and worst is out of the first round ends up #20, then the bottom of the first round is all over the place.



25
San Antonio Spurs (from Boston Celtics): Kennedy Chandler (Tennessee Volunteers: Guard, Freshman, 6-1)

Average: 22.67 Best: 19 Worst: Out of the first round

[Drom John]

Fansided 8.9 | NBA Draft Mock 4.0: The best prospect for every team in the first round
Nicolas Kyle Pring, 2 hours ago AKA 20 May 2022


9. San Antonio Spurs – Tari Eason | PF | LSU | 6’8” | 216 LBS

Few teams need help in the frontcourt more than the San Antonio Spurs. Outside of Jakob Poeltl, Gregg Popovich has mainly relied on position up-scaling and small ball to compromise, primarily using the undersized Keldon Johnson to man the 4 spot. This is where Tari Eason could entice them, as the LSU alum combines size, scoring, defending, and rebounding to round up as a do-it-all forward.


20. San Antonio Spurs (from TOR) – Nikola Jovic | PF | Mega Bemax | 6’10” | 209 LBS

This is a classic San Antonio pick. Known for favoring international prospects, Nikola Jovic from Serbia could quickly become a Gregg Popovich favorite with his combination of length, skill, and versatility, adding a much-needed size and flair to a growing Spurs team struggling with consistency and currently on the outside looking in.


25. San Antonio Spurs (from BOS) – EJ Liddell | PF | Ohio State | 6’7” | 240 LBS

The Spurs, rather surprisingly, fared better offensively than defensively this season despite having no top-tier scorers aside from Dejounte Murray. As a point of emphasis, E.J. Liddell deserves a look from San Antonio, as he is a great defender who adds the requisite length to be versatile.

[Drom John]

Philly Sports Today | LJ's 2022 NBA Mock Draft 1.0
LJ Nessler, 1 day ago, AKA 19 May 2020


9. San Antonio Spurs: Bennedict Mathurin, SG, Arizona

The Spurs have a lot of young intriguing wings like Josh Primo, Lonnie Walker, and Devin Vassell to go along with their All Star point guard Dejounte Murray. I think San Antonio dips right back into the well of wing players, taking Bennedict Mathurin from Arizona. Mathurin is the best perimeter defender of anyone selected so far, and he is great in isolation situations. Mathurin has a solid three ball that is streaky at times, but he has shown it can be lethal from deep. The most intriguing part is the raw athleticism that Mathurin possesses. Mathurin can get up and finish with the best of them around the rim, and he has the potential on both sides of the ball to develop into a very good two-way player in a situation like San Antonio.


20. San Antonio Spurs: E.J. Liddell, PF, Ohio State

25. San Antonio Spurs: Kennedy Chandler, PG, Tennessee

[Drom John]

HoopSocial | 2022 NBA Mock Draft 4.0: Lottery Order Set, Full 2-Round Mock
Jordan Ennis, May 19, 2022


9th overall pick the San Antonio Spurs select: Keegan Murray

22: 6’8 215 Forward Iowa. Comp= Marcus Morris who isn’t a dirty player and plays real defense.

The Spurs pick the perfect Spur.


20th overall pick the San Antonio Spurs select: Kendall Brown

19: 6’8 210 Wing Baylor. Comp= Smaller AK47

Brown is a great passing wing who will look much better outside of the Baylor System.


25th overall pick the San Antonio Spurs select: Bryce McGowens

19: 6’7 180 Wing Nebraska. Comp= Jamaal Crawford ish

The Spurs can swing for the fences with these picks and Bryce has Sky High potential.


38th overall pick the San Antonio Spurs select: Jaylin Williams

20: 6’10 240 Big Arkansas. Comp= Ed Davis ish

[Mr. Body]

These are all good picks generally. I feel like these outfits aren't clowning themselves like some of the earlier ones. I can see a situation where Keegan Murray drops, though I'm not sure the Spurs would go with Jovic or McGowens, two terrible defenders. Weird that teams are picking Kennedy sometimes.

[rascal]

These are all good picks generally. I feel like these outfits aren't clowning themselves like some of the earlier ones. I can see a situation where Keegan Murray drops, though I'm not sure the Spurs would go with Jovic or McGowens, two terrible defenders. Weird that teams are picking Kennedy sometimes.

What is Jovic good at other than perimeter shooting for a big man? Looks slow in lateral quickness.

[Brazil]

#9 Gary Neal
# 20 Potato Head
# 25 Keith Bogans
# 38 Matt Bonner

[Drom John]

HoopHype | Aggregate NBA mock draft 5.0: Jabari Smith leaps Chet Holmgren, Paolo Banchero; trade possibilities
Michael Scotto, May 20, 2022

Variation on the USAToday consensus above, slightly different calculation, and I think a few more mocks.

Risers:

Sharpe (Kentucky), Dyson Daniels (G League Ignite), Mark Williams (Duke), Ousmane Dieng (New Zealand NBL), Blake Wesley (Notre Dame), EJ Liddell (Ohio State), Nikola Jovic (Mega Basket Serbia), Walker Kessler (Auburn), Leonard Miller (Fort Erie International Academy), Max Christie (Michigan State), Terquavion Smith (NC State), Jalen Williams (Santa Clara), Jake LaRavia (Wake Forest), Caleb Houston (Michigan), Dalen Terry (Arizona) and Ryan Rollins (Toledo) have all risen within the top 45 picks.

Fallers:

Within the top 10 picks, AJ Griffin (Duke), Johnny Davis (Wisconsin) and Jalen Duran (Memphis) all fell slightly. Ochai Agbaji (Kansas) fell slightly outside the lottery. Kendall Brown (Baylor) had the biggest fall of the projected first-round prospects.



9. Johnny Davis

(Wisconsin: Guard, Sophomore, 6-5)

Previous rank: 8 (-1)

Best rank: 6 (ESPN)

Worst rank: 14

Davis, who interviewed with the Spurs and could be on the board at No. 9 overall, said, “Obviously, playing under coach Popovich, the most famous coach in NBA history, is something I would really want to happen.”




20. MarJon Beauchamp

(Ignite: Wing, G League, 6-7)

Previous rank: 19 (-1)

Best rank: 17 (Basketball News)

Worst rank: 29



25. Walker Kessler

(Auburn: Big, Sophomore, 7-1)

Previous rank: 26 (+1)

Best rank: 19 (Sports Illustrated)

Worst rank: 34

(Not included in one mock draft)

[duncan2150]

What is Jovic good at other than perimeter shooting for a big man? Looks slow in lateral quickness.

Playmaking.

[exstatic]

Not necessarily, Richardson is probably on the way out, and Primo is still very raw. You could definitely slot Mathurin in there, with him and Vassell sharing minutes at 2/3
If we take Blake Wesley or Hardy, however, that does spell doom for Lonnie. But in all honesty, I think he's doomed regardless...

If the Spurs re-sign Walker, I’ll be more upset than by anyone we might draft at 9.

[Mr. Body]

Yeah, I think Walker is moving on. Good luck to him. I think he could actually do very well on a team like Charlotte that likes to move up and down the court. The Spurs move around a lot, but it's in a halfcourt set.

[Drom John]

Sports Gaming Rosters |2022 NBA Mock Draft – Post Lottery Edition – 5/19/22

Comments in YouTube video.


9 San Antonio Spurs Jalen Duren C Memphis Fr

20 San Antonio Spurs (from TOR) Jeremy Sochan SF/PF Baylor Fr

25 San Antonio Spurs (from BOS) Ismael Kamagate C France N/A

Duren comments implies Memphis players should get a closer look because Hardaway is a bad coach.
YouTube stops after lottery.

[Uriel]

If Keegan Murray falls to #9, you take him, without question.

[T Park]

Keegan Murray falling and getting taken by the spurs would be amazing. He’s literally as perfect a fit at the four outside Banchero there is.

[Dejounte]

Level of competition is overrated. If you have a guy who clearly has a set of skills that stand out. You consider him. The draft is mostly a crapshoot.

[John B]

What is Jovic good at other than perimeter shooting for a big man? Looks slow in lateral quickness.

Diaw-esque playmaking, bball iq. Granted Diaw was a natural athlete in flip-flops

And not to get spook by Samanic. That guy didn’t have high bball iq despite being mobile big, getting lost in rotation. Jovic IS a point guard in 6-10 body.

[BatManu20]

Sports Gaming Rosters |2022 NBA Mock Draft – Post Lottery Edition – 5/19/22

Comments in YouTube video.



Duren comments implies Memphis players should get a closer look because Hardaway is a bad coach.
YouTube stops after lottery.

Dumb mock (they almost all are). Spurs aren’t taking Duren and Sochan will be long gone by 20.

[rascal]

Diaw-esque playmaking, bball iq. Granted Diaw was a natural athlete in flip-flops

And not to get spook by Samanic. That guy didn’t have high bball iq despite being mobile big, getting lost in rotation. Jovic IS a point guard in 6-10 body.

Jovic is not a pg in a 6-10 body as he doesn't have pg ball handling abilities.
He's maybe a good passer out of the forward position and can knock down a perimeter shot but lacks quickness.

BBIQ is overrated on this board. Guys throw that term out for everything on assumptions of players.

Luka just ended up not very good.

[rascal]

If Keegan Murray falls to #9, you take him, without question.

Doubt he gets to 9 but yes you take him at 9. I see Murray not getting past Indiana.

[mystargtr34]

1527720642207961089
With all the talk of other prospects, I think I still would take Sochan at 9 if he’s there, Mathurin is my next choice, then one of Davis or Daniels.

Regarding Mark Williams and Jalen Duren, I actually like them both, just not sure if C is a position to go for in today’s NBA. But I wouldn’t be mad at either. In fact I’d probably take these two guys above Daniels and Davis.

Part of what intrigues me about Sochan is obviously the defense and ability to guard multiple positions. Look at the last 4 teams standing in the NBA and their defensive rating ranking during the regular season. Boston (1st), GS (2nd), Miami (4th), Dallas (7th). Other teams who made the conference semis were Phoenix (3rd), Grizzlies (6th).

Ok a lot of those teams have superstars on offense, but not all do. Defense can win you a lot of games, especially if you don’t have an out and out offensive superstar.

[itzsoweezee]

I’m going to be pissed if the spurs take a center with the 9th pick.

[Mr. Body]

I wonder if Sochan goes before Murray.

[rascal]

1527720642207961089
With all the talk of other prospects, I think I still would take Sochan at 9 if he’s there, Mathurin is my next choice, then one of Davis or Daniels.

Regarding Mark Williams and Jalen Duren, I actually like them both, just not sure if C is a position to go for in today’s NBA. But I wouldn’t be mad at either. In fact I’d probably take these two guys above Daniels and Davis.

Part of what intrigues me about Sochan is obviously the defense and ability to guard multiple positions. Look at the last 4 teams standing in the NBA and their defensive rating ranking during the regular season. Boston (1st), GS (2nd), Miami (4th), Dallas (7th). Other teams who made the conference semis were Phoenix (3rd), Grizzlies (6th).

Ok a lot of those teams have superstars on offense, but not all do. Defense can win you a lot of games, especially if you don’t have an out and out offensive superstar.

You aren't going to win without superstar go to offensive players on the team, relying only on defense.

[rascal]

I wonder if Sochan goes before Murray.

Hope so, rather have Murray.

[BacktoBasics]

I'm not seeing the Sochan athletic ability that people claim. Some recent videos do make him look better than I thought but he doesn't seem like the modern big we really need.

[Drom John]

ClutchPoints | 2022 NBA Draft: Post-Lottery mock draft
Sean Barnard, May 20, 2022


9) San Antonio Spurs: AJ Griffin- SF Duke

AJ Griffin drew criticism for his lack of assertiveness but plays a winning brand of basketball. There appears to be more in the tank and he fits the Spurs’ style of play.


20) San Antonio Spurs- Nikola Jovic- SF/PF Serbia

Not to be confused with the back-to-back MVP, Nikola Jovic plays a unique brand of basketball. The 6’10 forward is able to handle the ball and initiate offense. He also can hold his own when defending on the perimeter.


25) San Antonio Spurs- Kennedy Chandler- PG Tennesse

Lacks size but has impressive pace and good instincts. He improved greatly throughout his freshman season and still has room to grow. His athleticism and potential will earn him a chance.

[Mr. Body]

Griffin + Jovic + unneeded PG = king puke

[Drom John]

NBC Sports Washington | 2022 NBA Mock Draft 8.0: Jabari Smith the Magic's prize for winning lottery
Chase Hughes and Mike Deprisco, May 18, 2020


09 San Antonio Spurs: Jalen Duren

Team: Memphis
Year: Freshman
Position: C
Height/Weight: 6'10, 230 lbs

Duren's size and strength are unmatched. If he were in a 1990s draft class, he would probably be the prized selection. However, while most college centers and programs had trouble stopping Duren this season, he's not a modern NBA center. In his lone season in college, he attempted one three with a majority of his shots coming within six feet of the basket. Pair that with a poor 62.5% mark at the free-throw line and that drastically limits his potential. There's no denying his NBA-ready frame, athleticism and ability to have an impact in a pick-and-roll offense. Teams will just have to decide if he's the right fit for their system or a depth piece on the defensive end.


20 San Antonio Spurs (via Raptors): Kendall Brown
Team: Baylor
Year: Freshman
Position: SF
Height/Weight: 6'8, 205 lbs

Brown is 6-foot-8, strong and can jump with the best of them. He's also a decent outside shooter when his feet are set and has shown flashes of making plays off the dribble. He's going to be a project for any team that drafts him, but one that could be worth taking a chance on. Early on, he could make an impact defensively, on the glass and by putting pressure on the rim in transition.


25 San Antonio Spurs (via Celtics): MarJon Beauchamp
Team: G-League Ignite
Age: 21
Position: SF
Height/Weight: 6'6, 199 lbs

Another flashy star from the G-League, Beauchamp was a talented scorer on a squad loaded with ripe talent. The small forward is older than most in this class, 21, and was originally planning on declaring for the 2021 NBA Draft. The COVID-19 pandemic pushed that option back and then the Ignite invited him to come down.

[duncan2150]

Hope so, rather have Murray.

I really think some undervalue the defense of sochan, his switchability is gold imo in today's nba. Murray could be a good fit but i'm not totally sold on him, i have more concerns about his transition to the NBA. I could be wrong on this.

[Drom John]

Rookie Wire | 2022 NBA Mock Draft 4.0: Projections for every pick post lottery
Cody Taylor | May 20, 2022



9
San Antonio Spurs: Jalen Duren, Memphis

Soobum Im-USA TODAY Sports

Height: 6-11

Weight: 250

Year: Freshman

Position: C

Duren proved to be a force inside the paint throughout the season given the physicality he plays with on a nightly basis. He broke out a mid-range shot at times, which would certainly help his value on offense but teams will be attracted to him for what he brings on defense. He has the size to hold his own against bigger competition as teams will be impressed with his 7-foot-5 wingspan. There are questions with his offensive game but Duren has a lot to like elsewhere to overcome those possible shortcomings.



20
San Antonio Spurs (from Toronto): Blake Wesley, Notre Dame

Orlando Ramirez-USA TODAY Sports

Height: 6-4

Weight: 187

Year: Freshman

Position: G

Wesley averaged 14.4 points, 3.7 rebounds, 2.4 assists and 1.3 steals in 35 games on 47.1% shooting from the field. He was the only true freshman in the nation to record at least 450 points, 100 rebounds, 75 assists, 50 3s and 39 steals. He has also shown promise on the defensive end of the floor with his length and athleticism. Wesley opted against participating in 5-on-5 scrimmages at the combine, likely a strong indication that he feels good about his draft positioning.



25
San Antonio Spurs (from Boston): Kendall Brown, Baylor

Chris Jones-USA TODAY Sports

Height: 6-7

Weight: 201

Year: Freshman

Position: F

Brown has shown he can affect games on the defensive end and can guard nearly every position on the court, save for the 5. He hasn’t shown real confidence in his shot, attempting only 41 3-pointers, but still knocked down 34.1% of those looks. With three first-rounders, the Spurs could look to take a chance here if they decide to keep each pick and Brown would be a good option at this point.


38. San Antonio (from Lakers): Christian Koloko, Arizona

[widowmaker]

I’m going to be pissed if the spurs take a center with the 9th pick.


Im gonna be pissed if they take a guard when they should be taking one of those combo forwards, preferably Eason.

[widowmaker]

Griffin + Jovic + unneeded PG = king puke


Unknown/unneeded PG.

[Dverde]

Anyone else expecting #25 to be better than #9 and #20?

[Chomag]

All of this speculation talk is always fun as a fan but we know all well Spurs FO is going to pick a player none of us or the media is talking about and yall know it. :lol

[Russ]

I’m going to be pissed if the spurs take a center with the 9th pick.

Me too (especially if it's Duren or Williams, and who else could it be).

[Mugen]

I think Sochan is gone by the 8th pick, not getting past Portland tbh. Wouldn't be surprised if Murray slides a bit.

[Mr. Body]

Anyone else expecting #25 to be better than #9 and #20?

No?

[Mr. Body]

I think Sochan is gone by the 8th pick, not getting past Portland tbh. Wouldn't be surprised if Murray slides a bit.

I don't know. Seems like Portland needs to make a big splash with this draft, meaning a guy who can shoulder the load at least some. Getting Mr Switchable on D might not cut it. I wonder about Indiana after jettisoning Sabonis, but Murray feels like a better fit. I almost see the Pels taking him and really cementing some great defensive pieces.

[K...]

Anyone else expecting #25 to be better than #9 and #20?

Yes because they trade it to next year so we don't argue about it until then

[spurs1990]

Drom John big ups to you for collating the mock drafts 🍻

I’m wary of both Davis and Keegan. Big 10 scorers with inflated numbers and both look super soft on their highlight tape. Spurs need a dog at that 9th pick

[jjspur]

Spurs will select with the #9, but most likely trade the 20th or 25th pick. Just can't see 3 rookies on this team especially if they want to move up in the standings. Having 4 picks at least gives you options though.

[exstatic]

Just based on timvp’s comments of the Spurs being high on him. Duren is young and has upside, so I’m not hating on him. But he comes from a Memphis program that was really poorly coached last season and has a reputation for producing selfish players or players with character issues. Duren doesn’t seem to have the latter, which is good. And he’s the 2nd youngest player in the draft, which is a definite plus.

But just personality-wise, Duren just doesn’t seem like a Spurs guy to me. Williams has that Duke pedigree (was well-coached under Coach K and their excellent staff) and comes from a strong family (his father is a doctor, etc). And now we know his measurements are insane. Just think Spurs would rather have him than Duren.

With that said, I’d be shocked (and disappointed) if we went with a rim-running big at 9. Legit.

Duke players almost invariably underperform in the NBA. Like always, except Grant Hill.

[Ariel]

Duke players almost invariably underperform in the NBA. Like always, except Grant Hill.
True for many, but you also have Kyrie, Tatum, Ingram, Zion, Gary Trent, Grayson Allen, Tyus Jones (hopefully Tre soon)... so let's not go overboard...

[Thomas82]

Duke players almost invariably underperform in the NBA. Like always, except Grant Hill.

They underperform and have bad luck with injuries. To me, they're the equivalent of Penn State running backs in the NFL.

[Mugen]

I don't know. Seems like Portland needs to make a big splash with this draft, meaning a guy who can shoulder the load at least some. Getting Mr Switchable on D might not cut it. I wonder about Indiana after jettisoning Sabonis, but Murray feels like a better fit. I almost see the Pels taking him and really cementing some great defensive pieces.

Outside of the top 4 + Sharpe, I don't consider anybody else "splashy" tbh. Not even Murray. And I think Sochan's age and that his closest comp just won ROTY is gonna make him a goner by the time the Spurs draft.

Though, I do think the 7th pick is very much attainable. If the Spurs are worried about a guy they want getting nabbed by NOLA, they've got the pieces to jump in front tbh.

[Uriel]

Jonathan Kuminga, who was a consensus top 5 pick, fell to #7 in last year’s draft. So it’s not out of the question that Murray, who is a consensus top 6 pick, could fall to #9.

[Uriel]

Make no mistake: if Keegan Murray falls to #9, and the Spurs pick him, he would immediately be the team’s starter at PF and would be a strong candidate for making the All-Rookie team.

[mo7888]

Jonathan Kuminga, who was a consensus top 5 pick, fell to #7 in last year’s draft. So it’s not out of the question that Murray, who is a consensus top 6 pick, could fall to #9.

It's not out of the realm of possibility....

[Russ]

Make no mistake: if Keegan Murray falls to #9, and the Spurs pick him, he would immediately be the team’s starter at PF and would be a strong candidate for making the All-Rookie team.

I think you're right. (My only slight concern is that making the All-Rookie team would be the highlight of his NBA career.)

[spurs1990]

Spurs will select with the #9, but most likely trade the 20th or 25th pick. Just can't see 3 rookies on this team especially if they want to move up in the standings. Having 4 picks at least gives you options though.

Unless the play is to be in the running for the French center. 3 more rooks will spark a run to that end

[TDMVPDPOY]

if im the spurs im looking at trying to sign one of the memphis grizz younger players, someone like brooks...has that alpha mentality to chuck

[objective]

Make no mistake: if Keegan Murray falls to #9, and the Spurs pick him, he would immediately be the team’s starter at PF and would be a strong candidate for making the All-Rookie team.

More like he'll be immediately benched so he can get over himself and watch McDermott and Keldon be starters at alleged PF

[BackHome]

I like Murray but he has a high floor and a medium ceiling I still would rather have Dieng who I think has a higher ceiling. But I wouldn’t be mad with the pick I just hope the Spurs can get 3 players that are better then 3 players we currently have. In an ideal world would love a PF, Center, and a SF, and yeah one would be International

[CGD]

Make no mistake: if Keegan Murray falls to #9, and the Spurs pick him, he would immediately be the team’s starter at PF and would be a strong candidate for making the All-Rookie team.

Perhaps, but he has Indy written all over him in my mind. Carlyle drafted an older player last draft, and it’s a position of need for them after the Sabonis deal.

[Mr. Body]

Outside of the top 4 + Sharpe, I don't consider anybody else "splashy" tbh. Not even Murray. And I think Sochan's age and that his closest comp just won ROTY is gonna make him a goner by the time the Spurs draft.

Though, I do think the 7th pick is very much attainable. If the Spurs are worried about a guy they want getting nabbed by NOLA, they've got the pieces to jump in front tbh.

By splashy I mean a player who can run right away and probably score and not be a project. Sochan wouldn't be splashy for a fanbase or damian Lillard. Someone to indicate a direction for the franchise. It's low-key a disaster they didn't pop into the top 4. Not like they deserve it.

[CGD]

I feel DET is a team to watch at 5. They have to be upset they didnt get into the Top 3, and may be poised to trade up with Houston or down if their next guy could be had later. Not sure they trade all the way down to 9, but probably more realistic than spurs trying to get 3 via Houston.

[RC_Drunkford]

Following the 2022 NBA Draft Lottery, NBA executives who spoke with HoopsHype said they are monitoring the Sacramento Kings and Portland Trail Blazers as two potential teams that could trade their picks in search of player(s) that can help immediately. Sacramento has missed the playoffs for a record 16 consecutive seasons. Portland’s franchise cornerstone Damian Lillard turns 32 on July 15, with the clock ticking on his prime years.

Other executives are monitoring Oklahoma City, Charlotte, San Antonio, and Minnesota as potential traders. The Thunder has four picks in the top 34 and can consolidate some of those picks. The Hornets can afford to move one of their first-round picks (13 and 15). The Grizzlies have an established young core ready to take the next step with picks 22 and 29 to dangle as bait. The Spurs (picks 9, 20, 25 and 38) have a surplus of late first-rounders that should be available. The Timberwolves have the No. 19 pick and three picks in the 40-50 range to dangle.

via Hoopshype. While there's likely no chance to move into the top 3, I think 4 and 5 might be attainable

[RC_Drunkford]

Following the 2022 NBA Draft Lottery, NBA executives who spoke with HoopsHype said they are monitoring the Sacramento Kings and Portland Trail Blazers as two potential teams that could trade their picks in search of player(s) that can help immediately. Sacramento has missed the playoffs for a record 16 consecutive seasons. Portland’s franchise cornerstone Damian Lillard turns 32 on July 15, with the clock ticking on his prime years.

Other executives are monitoring Oklahoma City, Charlotte, San Antonio, and Minnesota as potential traders. The Thunder has four picks in the top 34 and can consolidate some of those picks. The Hornets can afford to move one of their first-round picks (13 and 15). The Grizzlies have an established young core ready to take the next step with picks 22 and 29 to dangle as bait. The Spurs (picks 9, 20, 25 and 38) have a surplus of late first-rounders that should be available. The Timberwolves have the No. 19 pick and three picks in the 40-50 range to dangle.

via Hoopshype. While there's likely no chance to move into the top 3, I think 4 and 5 might be attainable

[Chinook]

I like Murray but he has a high floor and a medium ceiling I still would rather have Dieng who I think has a higher ceiling. But I wouldn’t be mad with the pick I just hope the Spurs can get 3 players that are better then 3 players we currently have. In an ideal world would love a PF, Center, and a SF, and yeah one would be International

I actually agree with folks saying that having a high floor matters here. I don't think the Spurs should gamble on star potential over everything else. If they think Murray is going to be a solid two- or three-contract player for them, that's fine. They'd do well to secure a starter at a position of need. We're talking about the ninth pick here, not the first. There are many avenues for the Spurs to add talent, starting with their second first-round pick. I don't think it's this pick or bust in terms of raising the offensive ceiling. I don't know enough about Dieng to compare, but that's part of the reason why Samanic over Clarke never made sense to me. Get a guy who's really good at what he does and would fit in nicely and worry about a ceiling at a different point.

[Mr. Body]

I actually agree with folks saying that having a high floor matters here. I don't think the Spurs should gamble on star potential over everything else. If they think Murray is going to be a solid two- or three-contract player for them, that's fine. They'd do well to secure a starter at a position of need. We're talking about the ninth pick here, not the first. There are many avenues for the Spurs to add talent, starting with their second first-round pick. I don't think it's this pick or bust in terms of raising the offensive ceiling. I don't know enough about Dieng to compare, but that's part of the reason why Samanic over Clarke never made sense to me. Get a guy who's really good at what he does and would fit in nicely and worry about a ceiling at a different point.

I've posted this before, but the #9 pick has yielded players like Tracy McGrady, Amare Stoudamire, Dirk Nowitzki, DeMar DeRozan, Shawn Marion, Andre Iguodala, Kemba Walker, and Gordon Hayward.

By no means is it a for-certain pick, but it's more than possible to get a very good player there. Earlier teams miss their swings all the time.

[Chinook]

I've posted this before, but the #9 pick has yielded players like Tracy McGrady, Amare Stoudamire, Dirk Nowitzki, DeMar DeRozan, Shawn Marion, Andre Iguodala, Kemba Walker, and Gordon Hayward.

By no means is it a for-certain pick, but it's more than possible to get a very good player there. Earlier teams miss their swings all the time.

I'm not saying they can't draft a star their. I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that there's value in getting a base hit and hoping some kooky bounce and great base running gets you a score rather than thinking you have to swing for a homer every time. Both runs count the same, but one is more likely to yield better intermediate results. People forget that Kawhi and Butler were both high-floor guys who just had ceilings much higher than the general consensus expected.

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USA Today | 2022 NBA consensus mock draft 3.0: How the internet is projecting the first round after order was set
Charles Curtis, May 20, 2022


I'd view this as "best available" at our picks, rather than "Spurs will pick."




If someone's who's best is 21 and worst is out of the first round ends up #20, then the bottom of the first round is all over the place.

If this is who we draft I'll be here purely to people watch as they rage post.

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I've posted this before, but the #9 pick has yielded players like Tracy McGrady, Amare Stoudamire, Dirk Nowitzki, DeMar DeRozan, Shawn Marion, Andre Iguodala, Kemba Walker, and Gordon Hayward.

By no means is it a for-certain pick, but it's more than possible to get a very good player there. Earlier teams miss their swings all the time.

Did we miss at #11 last year? ;)

[Mr. Body]

Did we miss at #11 last year? ;)

Won't know yet. But it was the #12 pick anyway. The previous year we took Vassell at #11 and probably should have taken Halliburton.

The #12 is kind of a mixed bag. Players like Stephen Adams, Dario Saric, Thaddeus Young, and then busts like Trey Lyles, Hilton Armstrong, Xavier Henry.

The #11 has Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Damontas Sabonis, Klay Thompson, Myles Turner, middling players like Doug McDermott, a few bad players like Myers Leonard and Cole Aldrich.

The #9 historically is sort of a sweet spot for good players for some reason. Maybe because some were out of high school or weren't understood how good they were (Dirk).

[Uriel]

I like Murray but he has a high floor and a medium ceiling I still would rather have Dieng who I think has a higher ceiling. But I wouldn’t be mad with the pick I just hope the Spurs can get 3 players that are better then 3 players we currently have. In an ideal world would love a PF, Center, and a SF, and yeah one would be International
Luka Samanic had a high ceiling, look how that turned out. Keegan Murray would be a strong player in a position of need that fits our current roster’s timeline. If he falls to #9, I think it’s a no-brainer.

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Luka Samanic had a high ceiling, look how that turned out. Keegan Murray would be a strong player in a position of need that fits our current roster’s timeline. If he falls to #9, I think it’s a no-brainer.

Yup. My thoughts exactly, but it's hard to imagine him being available at 9. He's simply too polished and too NBA ready on day one (on both ends of the court) which would be a nice change of pace after drafting But He's Got Electrolytes.

[PhantomDashCam]

Branham appears to be getting looks in the 20s. Possible pick at #20, likely gone before #25…

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[PhantomDashCam]

Hornets have uploaded some of the combine interviews to their website. Some great names there.
This link will take you to a Sochan one.

Really impressive kid IMHO.

https://www.nba.com/hornets/videos/hornets-pre-draft-media-availability-jeremy-sochan-5-19-22

[JPB]

Hornets have uploaded some of the combine interviews to their website. Some great names there.
This link will take you to a Sochan one.

Really impressive kid IMHO.

https://www.nba.com/hornets/videos/hornets-pre-draft-media-availability-jeremy-sochan-5-19-22

Jovic looks like a cool dude, tbh.

I can see the spurs being high on him. Too early for 9th but too late for 20th? One sure thing, if he's still there at 20 and Spurs picked somebody else at 9, he's a spur.

[mystargtr34]

Hornets have uploaded some of the combine interviews to their website. Some great names there.
This link will take you to a Sochan one.

Really impressive kid IMHO.

https://www.nba.com/hornets/videos/hornets-pre-draft-media-availability-jeremy-sochan-5-19-22

Yeah can see Pop and Wright really taking a liking to his personality.

[mo7888]

Jovic looks like a cool dude, tbh.

I can see the spurs being high on him. Too early for 9th but too late for 20th? One sure thing, if he's still there at 20 and Spurs picked somebody else at 9, he's a spur.

I think jovic is there at 20....might even be there at 25....

I also agree with offset and a couple others on Murray at #9. I have him in the 2nd tier (4-8 spots) and he's a position of need. If he's there at 9 you take him and be thankful a couple teams above you reached for projects. I do like Dieng alot and he may have a higher ceiling but there's more risk there. Murray will be a good player and he could end up being better than anyone on our current roster. If he's there just take him...

[CGD]

I agree you take Murray if he’s there at 9, but I highly doubt it. He has Pacers written all over him.

[John B]

Jovic looks like a cool dude, tbh.

I can see the spurs being high on him. Too early for 9th but too late for 20th? One sure thing, if he's still there at 20 and Spurs picked somebody else at 9, he's a spur.

I’d be happy to see Spurs pick Sochan #9, Jovic #20, Liddell #25 and Cockburn #38

I think J-Will has a good chance with his performance and lately Spurs look at the performance at the Combine considerably. I’ve said this team needs a go-to guy first, hopefully from FA (LaVine) or trade. I’d probably switch some more. This is like shopping on X’mas with all the picks Spurs have :lol. I’d use all of them and see who would stick. I think they really have a good chance to really find good players. It would be a fun off-season. I’m so excited what PATFO has stored for Spurs fans :lol

[TD 21]

Not a chance Murray doesn't go 6-7. Still think he should be the number one (realistic) target . . .

To Hornets: Poeltl, 25
To Pacers: Washington Jr., 9, 20
To Spurs: Jones, 6, 15

[rascal]

Unfortunately the Spurs won a few too many games and dropped outside of the top 7.

This draft is 7 deep with offensive star talent.

Ivey, Sharpe, Mathurin, Murray will all be gone at 9. Fall off happens around 8

Spurs will need to trade up to get one of these guys.

[rascal]

Yeah can see Pop and Wright really taking a liking to his personality.

Brilliant drafting guys on personality now.

[rascal]

Most likely it'll be Sochan at 9, Jovic at 20 and trade away 25 for a protected FDP.

Unexciting draft for the Spurs and not really adding any huge difference makers.

That's what I'm expecting.

[Ditty]

Still think Dieng will be the pick at 9.

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Most likely it'll be Sochan at 9, Jovic at 20 and trade away 25 for a protected FDP.

Unexciting draft for the Spurs and not really adding any huge difference makers.

That's what I'm expecting.

Hey there's always the youngest kid in the draft we could surprise everybody with when its our turn. Have some faith.

[KingKev]

Hey there's always the youngest kid in the draft we could surprise everybody with when its our turn. Have some faith.

2yrs away from being 2yrs away just means more time to groom them.

[Uriel]

If Keegan Murray (somehow) makes it past Indiana, is it a safe bet that he would fall all the way to us?

[Degoat]

If Keegan Murray (somehow) makes it past Indiana, is it a safe bet that he would fall all the way to us?

I think the Trailblazers would grab him at 7

[rascal]

Sochan, Davis, Griffin, Daniels, Williams, those are the likely options/ Spurs just won a few too many games and fell out of the top 7.

[BackHome]

I would add Dieng to that list

[MannyIsGod]

The truth is that NBA teams sometimes need to get really lucky. While certain teams like the Grizz (and honestly the Spurs) have drafted fairly well, sometimes you just have to get lucky. Look at how many teams have passed on certain stars in this league like Jokic, Giannis, or Jimmy Butler. People can sit and parse this shit over and over but the truth is that if it were a simple formula of known variables we'd have figured this shit out a long time ago and people woudln't miss.

[Dejounte]

The truth is that NBA teams sometimes need to get really lucky. While certain teams like the Grizz (and honestly the Spurs) have drafted fairly well, sometimes you just have to get lucky. Look at how many teams have passed on certain stars in this league like Jokic, Giannis, or Jimmy Butler. People can sit and parse this shit over and over but the truth is that if it were a simple formula of known variables we'd have figured this shit out a long time ago and people woudln't miss.

No, you can only get stars in the top 7. There couldn’t possibly be any special talent past the projected top 7. Why bother to take those risks?

[rascal]

I would add Dieng to that list

I wouldn't, he doesn't have the star upside the other guys have.
For explosive go to scorers which the Spurs badly need, Dieng doesn't fit in that category. I don't see him better than Sharpe or Ivey or Murray.

Those guys are more polished in their athleticism, Dieng doesn't look as good, just another hopeful player which the Spurs already have enough of those.

[rascal]

No, you can only get stars in the top 7. There couldn’t possibly be any special talent past the projected top 7. Why bother to take those risks?

I know you're joking but in this draft top 7 look to be above the rest in offensive skills. The offensive skilled players go at a higher premium.

Then a drop off in tier level after 7. With an occasional exception usually the top players are the first few picks.

[Degoat]

I maybe in the minority on this one but I hope the spurs trade 20 & 25 to move up a few spots.

[BackHome]

I wouldn't, he doesn't have the star upside the other guys have.
For explosive go to scorers which the Spurs badly need, Dieng doesn't fit in that category. I don't see him better than Sharpe or Ivey or Murray.

Those guys are more polished in their athleticism, Dieng doesn't look as good, just another hopeful player which the Spurs already have enough of those.

Oh I agree that if it’s Sharpe, Ivey, or Murray you take them before Dieng. As far as potential well we have to disagree I think he has potential and at a position of need will need a year or two to get stronger but definitely has the frame for it

[mo7888]

Unfortunately the Spurs won a few too many games and dropped outside of the top 7.

This draft is 7 deep with offensive star talent.

Ivey, Sharpe, Mathurin, Murray will all be gone at 9. Fall off happens around 8

Spurs will need to trade up to get one of these guys.

I think one of those falls to 9...it won't be Ivey but I think there's a good chance one of the others do..

[Dejounte]

I know you're joking but in this draft top 7 look to be above the rest in offensive skills. The offensive skilled players go at a higher premium.

Then a drop off in tier level after 7. With an occasional exception usually the top players are the first few picks.

Ah okay, you’re the expert and obviously a time traveler from the future. I 100% believe you.

[MannyIsGod]

I know you're joking but in this draft top 7 look to be above the rest in offensive skills. The offensive skilled players go at a higher premium.

Then a drop off in tier level after 7. With an occasional exception usually the top players are the first few picks.

Do you think all those teams who passed on Giannis and Jokic did so because they thought they were going to be what they were and just wanted other teams to have that caliber of player?

[rascal]

Do you think all those teams who passed on Giannis and Jokic did so because they thought they were going to be what they were and just wanted other teams to have that caliber of player?

Different draft/ Sure there will be a player or two that will exceed some of these top guys but good luck identifying that player. You're better higher in the draft to find that type of player.

The top guys in the draft are generally the top potential offensive players with the most athletic upsides, that's why those players are coveted and drafted high.
Size and offensive ability and any player seen with both gets drafted high.

This draft is about 7 deep then a falloff with more questionable players on the offensive side.
You can find a solid defender later in the draft but the Spurs need most a creator on offense and top go to scorer. A defender doesn't make the Spurs all that much better.

[John B]

Most likely it'll be Sochan at 9, Jovic at 20 and trade away 25 for a protected FDP.

Unexciting draft for the Spurs and not really adding any huge difference makers.

That's what I'm expecting.

I’d be happy with those picks. And trade Poeltl and 25 to get Davis and Williams? Damn.

[Uriel]

If you look at the consensus mock draft on NBA.com, the top 6 more or less seem locked in. It’s starting pick #7 that we start to see some divergence.

[Uriel]

But again, these consensus mocks can often be very different from draft night. Jonathan Kuminga, for example, was considered a consensus top 5 pick in last year’s draft, but still fell to #7.

[Ariel]

But again, these consensus mocks can often be very different from draft night. Jonathan Kuminga, for example, was considered a consensus top 5 pick in last year’s draft, but still fell to #7.
Kumminga wasn't consensus no. 5. Some mocks had him there, many others had Scottie Barnes. The real shocker was that Suggs, ACTUAL consensus no. 4, fell behind in favor of Scottie Barnes. But to your point, yes, there can be surprises, though they're usually not that many at the top.

[TD 21]

Kumminga wasn't consensus no. 5. Some mocks had him there, many others had Scottie Barnes. The real shocker was that Suggs, ACTUAL consensus no. 4, fell behind in favor of Scottie Barnes. But to your point, yes, there can be surprises, though they're usually not that many at the top.

Exactly. If anything, leading up to the draft there was speculation Kuminga could fall towards the end of the top 10.

He predictably didn't though primarily for the same reason Barnes rose and Williams the year before: They're the second most desirable modern archetype, in part due to scarcity.

[MannyIsGod]

Different draft/ Sure there will be a player or two that will exceed some of these top guys but good luck identifying that player. You're better higher in the draft to find that type of player.

The top guys in the draft are generally the top potential offensive players with the most athletic upsides, that's why those players are coveted and drafted high.
Size and offensive ability and any player seen with both gets drafted high.

This draft is about 7 deep then a falloff with more questionable players on the offensive side.
You can find a solid defender later in the draft but the Spurs need most a creator on offense and top go to scorer. A defender doesn't make the Spurs all that much better.

I mean the Spurs have done it several times before. Doesn't mean it's a lock by any means, but the point is that nothing about the first 4, 7 or whatever number of players in this draft that makes them a lock to be the best in the draft.

[SAGirl]

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Take away...Keegan Murray will be long gone by 9 and if hes not, the other GMs below 4 are morons. And PATFO better draft the kid if hes still there.

[rascal]

I think one of those falls to 9...it won't be Ivey but I think there's a good chance one of the others do..

1. J Smith
2. Holmgren
3. Banchero
4. Ivey/Sharpe
5. Sharpe/Ivey
6. Murray
7. Mathurin
8. Duren
9. Sochan/ Davis/ Daniels

So who is likely to be picked top 8 to make Murray or Mathurian fall to 9?

Most probable the Spurs are going to need to move up 2 or 3 spots in the draft if they want Murray.

[3&D_TBH]

Hornets have uploaded some of the combine interviews to their website. Some great names there.
This link will take you to a Sochan one.

Really impressive kid IMHO.

https://www.nba.com/hornets/videos/hornets-pre-draft-media-availability-jeremy-sochan-5-19-22

Sochan is the pick at 9. It's a no brainer. He's gonna be a stud. The question is what we do after this pick.

[DPG21920]

1. J Smith
2. Holmgren
3. Banchero
4. Ivey/Sharpe
5. Sharpe/Ivey
6. Murray
7. Mathurin
8. Duren
9. Sochan/ Davis/ Daniels

So who is likely to be picked top 8 to make Murray or Mathurian fall to 9?

Most probable the Spurs are going to need to move up 2 or 3 spots in the draft if they want Murray.

Davis and/or Sochan and/or Griffin

[rascal]

Sochan is the pick at 9. It's a no brainer. He's gonna be a stud. The question is what we do after this pick.

Hoping Sochan goes before 9 and Murray falls to 9.

I want a stronger offensive player than a defensive player.

[rascal]

Davis and/or Sochan and/or Griffin

Davis and Griffin not likely. Not much buzz on Griffin.

[Dejounte]

Refreshing my selections:

9: JWill / Sochan / Dyson
20 or 25: Liddell/ Dieng/ Wesley/ Procida / Eason/ Mark Will

[DPG21920]

Davis and Griffin not likely. Not much buzz on Griffin.

Ya - I dont know how likely just saying those 3 I could see going higher than some think. How likely? Not sure at all.

[DPG21920]

Refreshing my selections:

9: JWill / Sochan / Dyson
20 or 25: Liddell/ Dieng/ Wesley/ Procida / Eason/ Mark Will

I really hope SA can snag Sochan and Eason. Would love to add some real defense and energy to this already energetic team. I would love to take Sochan at 9 and move up to guarantee Eason.

[Dejounte]

If the Spurs end up keeping Poeltl and getting players who excel at help defense (maybe Eason or Sochan), then I expect 10 more wins on that alone. That was a big weakness in last year’s team.

[Dejounte]

Last year, the Spurs glaring weakness was shooting. They addressed that with McD, Vassell’s increased role, Forbes, drafting Wieskamp

If we examine the weaknesses from this past season where it was glaringly obvious and perhaps Pop commented on, they were:
1) go to scorer - though someone could still develop into that from the current roster
2) rebounding - Pop mentioned this a couple times so you would think this would be a main focus
3) help defense - opposing players got easy layups because Poeltl had no help

[DPG21920]

If the Spurs end up keeping Poeltl and getting players who excel at help defense (maybe Eason or Sochan), then I expect 10 more wins on that alone. That was a big weakness in last year’s team.

Imagine replacing KBD & McDermott with versatile defensive players who actually have some overall upside. That alone would be productive some not even getting into any trades/free agency.

[Mr. Body]

1. J Smith
2. Holmgren
3. Banchero
4. Ivey/Sharpe
5. Sharpe/Ivey
6. Murray
7. Mathurin
8. Duren
9. Sochan/ Davis/ Daniels

So who is likely to be picked top 8 to make Murray or Mathurian fall to 9?

Most probable the Spurs are going to need to move up 2 or 3 spots in the draft if they want Murray.

I can see Dyson Daniels, Mathurin and possibly Duren going before Murray.

[rascal]

Imagine replacing KBD & McDermott with versatile defensive players who actually have some overall upside. That alone would be productive some not even getting into any trades/free agency.

Why are you so concerned about the end of the bench players?

Spurs need a lot of work on the starters.

[rascal]

I really hope SA can snag Sochan and Eason. Would love to add some real defense and energy to this already energetic team. I would love to take Sochan at 9 and move up to guarantee Eason.

Still lack a go to scorer.

Trying to win with defense won't cut it without some strong offensive go to players.

[DPG21920]

Why are you so concerned about the end of the bench players?

Spurs need a lot of work on the starters.

Spurs back half of the roster was devastatingly bad. Starters, while definitely needing upgrades as well did pretty good for most part. But the talent drop off after the top 6 or 7 was huge and Sa needs to infuse more upside and versatility and the draft is how to do that. Im not saying I want them to draft for back half of roster players; take BPA.

Im saying that BPA should be immediate upgrades to a few guys who got decent minutes and that alone helps (not even factoring in trades or FA to continue building)

[DPG21920]

Still lack a go to scorer.

Trying to win with defense won't cut it without some strong offensive go to players.

That is what trades and FA is for

[rascal]

That is what trades and FA is for

It's far more difficult for the spurs to trade for a high end top scorer or get one in FA.

They need to get one from the draft and should try hard this year to get a player with huge offensive upside and it may only take moving up 3 spots in the draft to land that type of player.

The team won't take a big jump targeting defensive players in this draft. The Spurs need more offensive punch.

They don't even have a strong low post finisher/dunker.

[objective]

McDermott was a starter.

Anyways, the only guy I see that could fall with big scoring potential is Mathurin, and he'll probably be off the board

The rest of the players available will be limited offensive roleplayers unless they vastly outplay expectations.

Welcome to the 9th pick in a below average draft. Stuck with making the best of a bad situation. Should have tanked more, but it's too late now.

[DPG21920]

It's far more difficult for the spurs to trade for a high end top scorer or get one in FA.

They need to get one from the draft and should try hard this year to get a player with huge offensive upside and it may only take moving up 3 spots in the draft to land that type of player.

The team won't take a big jump targeting defensive players in this draft. The Spurs need more offensive punch.

They don't even have a strong low post finisher/dunker.

Not at all. Way harder trying to get that guy with pick 9 or worse in the draft…

[BackHome]

McDermott was a starter.

Anyways, the only guy I see that could fall with big scoring potential is Mathurin, and he'll probably be off the board

The rest of the players available will be limited offensive roleplayers unless they vastly outplay expectations.

Welcome to the 9th pick in a below average draft. Stuck with making the best of a bad situation. Should have tanked more, but it's too late now.

Lol. So true and all the people bitching about not tanking and making play in are now bitching they will not get a good player at the 9th pick...SMH...

[exstatic]

McDermott was a starter.

Anyways, the only guy I see that could fall with big scoring potential is Mathurin, and he'll probably be off the board

The rest of the players available will be limited offensive roleplayers unless they vastly outplay expectations.

Welcome to the 9th pick in a below average draft. Stuck with making the best of a bad situation. Should have tanked more, but it's too late now.

Indy and Portland both went into the tank hard after the ASG, dropped to 5 and 6, and are drafting 6 and 7.

[Mr. Body]

McDermott was a starter.

Anyways, the only guy I see that could fall with big scoring potential is Mathurin, and he'll probably be off the board

The rest of the players available will be limited offensive roleplayers unless they vastly outplay expectations.

Welcome to the 9th pick in a below average draft. Stuck with making the best of a bad situation. Should have tanked more, but it's too late now.

We're going to get a nice player at #9. And Mathurin or Davis will be available, with both projecting as scorers.

Last year's draft was better at the top but I feel much worse later on. This one has some legs with interesting pieces. Last year, after Primo the only player who seemed very interesting was Sengun.

[rascal]

We're going to get a nice player at #9. And Mathurin or Davis will be available, with both projecting as scorers.

Last year's draft was better at the top but I feel much worse later on. This one has some legs with interesting pieces. Last year, after Primo the only player who seemed very interesting was Sengun.

Mathurin I agree on as an explosive scorer, Davis not so much.

Davis doesn't have the athleticism and explosiveness and quick step, more of a mid range shooter.

Davis will be there at 9, Mathurin not likely.

[John B]

Spurs back half of the roster was devastatingly bad. Starters, while definitely needing upgrades as well did pretty good for most part. But the talent drop off after the top 6 or 7 was huge and Sa needs to infuse more upside and versatility and the draft is how to do that. Im not saying I want them to draft for back half of roster players; take BPA.

Im saying that BPA should be immediate upgrades to a few guys who got decent minutes and that alone helps (not even factoring in trades or FA to continue building)


The Spurs bench actually scored 3rd highest in the NBA, behind only Heat and Clippers. It’s the starting line-up that needs help more particularly at 4.

I think they need to address:
1. Go-to scorer, Keegan, Davis, Mathurin, Sharpe or FA. A combination of both?
2. Rebounding/Defense at PF, Keegan, Sochan, Eason
3. Better on-man defense at Center, Williams, Kessler, Duren,
4. Potentially losing Lonnie from bench scoring, Davis, Liddell, Jovic, Jalen

Ideally, if Keegan is available at 9, he checks off 1 and 2. I prefer Sochan’s defense, and hope he can develop more as a go-to scorer.

I don’t know how they move forward with Poeltl. If not, Williams would be nice at 15. Trade Poeltl and/or pick to move up.

Keegan 9, Williams 15 (trade Poeltl and pick), Jovic or Liddell at 20/25 whichever available
Cockburn at 38,

[Ariel]

Yup. There were a few players who might turn out well... Herb Jones, Sengun, Trey Murphy, Duarte, Bones Hyland, Ayo Dosunmu, probably Moody... but it's hard to challenge that after 8 the 2021 draft falls off a cliff... This one seems a lot deeper. In all honesty, I'm most worried with the FO trying to outsmart themselves like they did the past 2 drafts, where a poll with the average fan would have yielded better results.

[Mr. Body]

Mathurin I agree on as an explosive scorer, Davis not so much.

Davis doesn't have the athleticism and explosiveness and quick step, more of a mid range shooter.

Davis will be there at 9, Mathurin not likely.

If Davis works, he's going to score a lot. You're obsessed with athleticism.

[rascal]

Move 9 and 25 for 6 and draft Murray for the 4. Johnson to bench

Move Poeltl to Charlotte for 13 take Ogbaji( good 3 and d player that plays with fire, upgrade to Primo) for 2

Let Walker go, Primo to bench

Draft Kessler at 20 good pick later, rim defense and rebounding if Poeltl traded

[rascal]

If Davis works, he's going to score a lot. You're obsessed with athleticism.

Teams that lack athleticism are not good.

[rascal]

Lol. So true and all the people bitching about not tanking and making play in are now bitching they will not get a good player at the 9th pick...SMH...

True sometimes you have to take a step back to take two steps forward.

[John B]

However they get creative with the draft picks, I think there’s a real potential to address Spurs weaknesses.

[SAGirl]

We're going to get a nice player at #9. And Mathurin or Davis will be available, with both projecting as scorers.

Last year's draft was better at the top but I feel much worse later on. This one has some legs with interesting pieces. Last year, after Primo the only player who seemed very interesting was Sengun.
I really liked Moses Moody and I think he’ll show more in the coming seasons. He got limited opportunities in a stacked with veterans GSW team. I also liked Trey Murphy III and he’s looked solid for the Pelicans in the playoffs. Frankly there will be several players that end up better than Primo unless he starts shooting better and delivering on the potential that got the Spurs starry eyed.

[BacktoBasics]

Move 9 and 25 for 6 and draft Murray for the 4. Johnson to bench

Move Poeltl to Charlotte for 13 take Ogbaji( good 3 and d player that plays with fire, upgrade to Primo) for 2

Let Walker go, Primo to bench

Draft Kessler at 20 good pick later, rim defense and rebounding if Poeltl traded

Sounds great but 9 and 25 isn’t gonna get you 6. I don’t even think 9, 20 and 25 gets you 6.

[SAGirl]

Yup. There were a few players who might turn out well... Herb Jones, Sengun, Trey Murphy, Duarte, Bones Hyland, Ayo Dosunmu, probably Moody... but it's hard to challenge that after 8 the 2021 draft falls off a cliff... This one seems a lot deeper. In all honesty, I'm most worried with the FO trying to outsmart themselves like they did the past 2 drafts, where a poll with the average fan would have yielded better results.
I am all for Chinook approach a few posts back. I felt tempted to bump it bc I am with it a 100%. I prefer a high floor prospect. Sometimes those guys do end up developing into more, like Kawhi and Butler, but even if they don’t, at least you got something. That would have been the case for taking Clarke over Luka Samanic for example. One helped his team to the conference semifinals getting big and important minutes in a good team, the other is out of the league, but he was a big swing and a miss.

I am hoping still that swing and a miss will end up not being the case with Primo, but right now its wait and see.

Id want them to get someone who has a good solid floor and who will contribute, then try to get that guy to be even better if you can. He may not be a star (Clarke isn’t for example in this comparison, but hes good.)

Either way, I’ll have to accept whatever, if they take a huge gamble I hope they hit this time. Third time is the charm…!

[rascal]

Sounds great but 9 and 25 isn’t gonna get you 6. I don’t even think 9, 20 and 25 gets you 6.

That could be a problem.

[rascal]

I really liked Moses Moody and I think he’ll show more in the coming seasons. He got limited opportunities in a stacked with veterans GSW team. I also liked Trey Murphy III and he’s looked solid for the Pelicans in the playoffs. Frankly there will be several players that end up better than Primo unless he starts shooting better and delivering on the potential that got the Spurs starry eyed.

I liked Moody more than Primo and said that should have been the Spurs pick instead of Primo.

[rascal]

If Davis works, he's going to score a lot. You're obsessed with athleticism.

Mathurin brings more offensive fire power with athleticism to his arsenal. That's why he is mocked higher in most mock drafts.

[objective]

Indy and Portland both went into the tank hard after the ASG, dropped to 5 and 6, and are drafting 6 and 7.

Good for them, I'd rather have 6 or 7 than 9.

It's not like fans are buying tickets either way, tank or no tank.

[RC_Drunkford]

The Spurs drafting 2 PFs would be ideal, since the bench needs one as well. If we could get Murray and EJ Liddell that would be golden. A team without a go-to scorer has to hang its hat on defense

[objective]

We're going to get a nice player at #9. And Mathurin or Davis will be available, with both projecting as scorers.

Last year's draft was better at the top but I feel much worse later on. This one has some legs with interesting pieces. Last year, after Primo the only player who seemed very interesting was Sengun.

I'm not a believer in Davis, but I haven't watched as much of him as other players.

I liked Sengun a lot and would rather have him than Primo still.


Yup. There were a few players who might turn out well... Herb Jones, Sengun, Trey Murphy, Duarte, Bones Hyland, Ayo Dosunmu, probably Moody... but it's hard to challenge that after 8 the 2021 draft falls off a cliff... This one seems a lot deeper. In all honesty, I'm most worried with the FO trying to outsmart themselves like they did the past 2 drafts, where a poll with the average fan would have yielded better results.

Good players but a bunch of role players. Good role players, guys who can be in a conference finals rotation, but I doubt there would be a consensus that any of those guys is likely to ever average 20 in a season.

Keldon Johnson averaged 21 after the all star break but I doubt anyone would consider him a go to scorer yet.

I'm sure this year will have those kinds of guys to like the ones named. But role guys are role guys.

Too bad Spurs probably won't have enough to get up and get Banchero.

Dallas sent Atlanta a top 5 protected pick to move from 5 to 3. Going from 9 to 3 with Houston for instance might cost a top 4 protected in 23 and the bulls pick and the Boston swap and maybe another top 4 protected pick on top with deferral rights.

Tanking might have helped make moving up possible. Getting from 6 to 3 is easier than from 9

[mo7888]

1. J Smith
2. Holmgren
3. Banchero
4. Ivey/Sharpe
5. Sharpe/Ivey
6. Murray
7. Mathurin
8. Duren
9. Sochan/ Davis/ Daniels

So who is likely to be picked top 8 to make Murray or Mathurian fall to 9?

Most probable the Spurs are going to need to move up 2 or 3 spots in the draft if they want Murray.

Daniels would be my guess...then Sochan... Davis would also have a chance too if a team likes his game over Mathurin...but Daniels has the highest chance as of today..

I think we'll see someone else outside that group rise after more individual workouts...my guess would be Dieng...but someone always rises late and some team falls in love...

[rascal]

Which player is the best fit for NO? They pick right before the Spurs.

[mo7888]

Which player is the best fit for NO? They pick right before the Spurs.

Assuming Sharpe doesn't free fall I'd say it's between Mathurin, Davis, and Daniels.

[Mr. Body]

Assuming Sharpe doesn't free fall I'd say it's between Mathurin, Davis, and Daniels.

I can see Duren, too.

[Degoat]

Which player is the best fit for NO? They pick right before the Spurs.

Idk if they’re interested or not but someone mentioned Dyson Daniels and that makes sense, big play making guard that can defend with Herb jones and Alvarado on the perimeter. If Daniels reaches his ceiling that team could be really good. Davis, Mathurin, And griffin are the other choices for them most likely.

[Payote75]

I personally am very high on primo. If he develops that killer instinct I think the Spurs have something special on their hands. He is just a baby.

[Thomas82]

I can see Duren, too.

Would they really draft another center so soon?

[rascal]

I personally am very high on primo. If he develops that killer instinct I think the Spurs have something special on their hands. He is just a baby.

I'm not. I just don't see the special skills.

What does he have that makes you think he's going to be so good? He's young? It's going to take more than that.

I don't see the extreme athleticism or fire in his game, plays timid, or quick burst in his first step, or a quick release on his shot.

It's going to be a risk that didn't pan out well.

[Mr. Body]

I personally am very high on primo. If he develops that killer instinct I think the Spurs have something special on their hands. He is just a baby.

Yep.

[John B]

I'm not. I just don't see the special skills.

What does he have that makes you think he's going to be so good? He's young? It's going to take more than that.

I don't see the extreme athleticism or fire in his game, plays timid, or quick burst in his first step, or a quick release on his shot.

It's going to be a risk that didn't pan out well.

Primo was a high risk, high return 2-3 project. In retrospect, I rather they did that and Spurs get an AS if he pans out. He got a good head on his shoulder, does not get rattled at 18! Has the physical built to be a strong player. It’s foolish to compare him right now, and sounds like a nagging girlfriend with the “I told you so.”

[Ditty]

Would of still loved Sengun but Primo is going to be a good player for the Spurs.

[T Park]

But again, these consensus mocks can often be very different from draft night. Jonathan Kuminga, for example, was considered a consensus top 5 pick in last year’s draft, but still fell to #7.

The consensus usually gets the no brainers right. The no brainers stop at 4 IMO.

[T Park]

Move 9 and 25 for 6 and draft Murray for the 4. Johnson to bench

Move Poeltl to Charlotte for 13 take Ogbaji( good 3 and d player that plays with fire, upgrade to Primo) for 2

Let Walker go, Primo to bench

Draft Kessler at 20 good pick later, rim defense and rebounding if Poeltl traded


Lmfao Kessler is awful the fuck?

[T Park]

I really liked Moses Moody and I think he’ll show more in the coming seasons. He got limited opportunities in a stacked with veterans GSW team. I also liked Trey Murphy III and he’s looked solid for the Pelicans in the playoffs. Frankly there will be several players that end up better than Primo unless he starts shooting better and delivering on the potential that got the Spurs starry eyed.


Lol Jesus Christ the kid just turned 19 and has played organized basketball for less than a couple years. Can the kid get a few more than 3 months starting?

[T Park]

Good for them, I'd rather have 6 or 7 than 9.

It's not like fans are buying tickets either way, tank or no tank.


Losing franchises like the Kings tank.


That’s a shit attitude to instill in your team.

[SAGirl]

Lol Jesus Christ the kid just turned 19 and has played organized basketball for less than a couple years. Can the kid get a few more than 3 months starting?
:cry

[T Park]

:cry

Yeah sorry to bring facts. Apologies.

[Brazil]

:lol

[mo7888]

I personally am very high on primo. If he develops that killer instinct I think the Spurs have something special on their hands. He is just a baby.

I agree

[rascal]

Lmfao Kessler is awful the fuck?

Kessler is a fall back option for a late draft pick this year if you trade Poeltl.


A solid rebounder and shot blocker and finisher near the basket but limited in other areas.
Not the final answer but can work for a year or two during a rebuild if you move Poeltl.

You're going to have to add a center if Poeltl is traded.

[rascal]

All those so high on Primo.

Would you trade him for Sharpe?
Mathurin?
Davis?
Ogbaji?

I would trade him for any of these players.

[mo7888]

All those so high on Primo.

Would you trade him for Sharpe?
Mathurin?
Davis?
Ogbaji?

I would trade him for any of these players.

I'd trade him for Sharpe or Mathurin... I'm not as high on the other two...

[Ariel]

Let's take the rose tinted glasses off... teams won't be lining up to take Primo off our hands, people. Some seem to have fallen for the sunk cost fallacy.

[KingKev]

Let's take the rose tinted glasses off... teams won't be lining up to take Primo off our hands, people. Some seem to have fallen for the sunk cost fallacy.

Agreed. He probably has less value than Langford at this point. There is no reason to trade him with such little value and no reason not to give him another yr or two to show what he has.

[Ariel]

Agreed. He probably has less value than Langford at this point. There is no reason to trade him with such little value and no reason not to give him another yr or two to show what he has.
Yup. And don't pass on any opportunities to draft at his position, if it's the best talent available. That's one of the most tempting and damaging things that overvaluing your own prospects can do for you.

[K...]

You know its funny but the reason primo was picked, size, intelligence, and saavy did not disappear. The whole skepticism about primo is based on him reworking his shot and playinglimited role in Murray's offrense, playing behind keldon, vessel and rich. The spurs could have force fed him. But the spurs seem fine with slow growth.

[mo7888]

Let's take the rose tinted glasses off... teams won't be lining up to take Primo off our hands, people. Some seem to have fallen for the sunk cost fallacy.

I don't think anyone here is suggesting that someone is going to trade for Primo. I took rascal's question as an attempt to evaluate how much we as fans that like Primo value him.

[KingKev]

You know its funny but the reason primo was picked, size, intelligence, and saavy did not disappear. The whole skepticism about primo is based on him reworking his shot and playinglimited role in Murray's offrense, playing behind keldon, vessel and rich. The spurs could have force fed him. But the spurs seem fine with slow growth.

Disagree.

The skepticism was there already but magnified with the rework of his shot. Couple that with a consistent role the last 15 games or so where he showed very little and the skeptisim remain warranted for a lottery pick that probably could have been had much later. He wasn’t playing behind anyone to close out there year. If anything we needed him to show something when Walker was out.

Slow growth is the best we can hope for.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Completely disagree about Primo not showing much - by the end of the season he was the best perimeter defender on the team and was clearly more comfortable driving a bit compared to earlier, passing better and getting used to NBA athleticism and speed. We all know about his shot mechanics changing, I'm pretty sure he'll be fine in this regard. He was expected to spend the whole season in Austin but ended up logging close to 1000 NBA minutes as a 18 year old. He seems to be valued very highly and with good reason.

[wildbill2u]

Spurs like off the chart draft plays from outside the US. If you could get the odds right from Vegas, a small bet on someone like Dieng might bring good dividends. Just sayin' :rolleyes

[rascal]

I don't think anyone here is suggesting that someone is going to trade for Primo. I took rascal's question as an attempt to evaluate how much we as fans that like Primo value him.

That's exactly correct.

I wanted to gauge how much people in here valued Primo as compared to the players I listed.

[rascal]

Agreed. He probably has less value than Langford at this point. There is no reason to trade him with such little value and no reason not to give him another yr or two to show what he has.

Yes, Primo won't have much trade value at this time and another two year investment should be put into him but I'm not sold he's the answer for a top level 2 guard talent on a winning team.

His ceiling at this time appears to be a solid contributor off the bench for a good team.

[BackHome]

I rewatched the Pelicans game and one thing came to mind is that Primo looked like a dwarf and Tre looked like a Hobbit compared to the Pelicans players. All I know we got to get more length and speed at certain positions.

[Drom John]

CBS | 2022 NBA Mock Draft: Auburn's Jabari Smith fits Magic's needs, projects as top pick ahead of Chet Holmgren
David Cobb, May 20, 2022


Round 1 - Pick 9
Jeremy Sochan PF
Baylor • Fr • 6'9" / 230 lbs
Projected Team
San Antonio
PROSPECT RNK
12th
POSITION RNK
4th
PPG
9.2
RPG
6.4
APG
1.8
3P%
29.6%
Sochan is a nimble power forward who is comfortable shooting from the outside and guarding players at any position. Assuming he improves on the 29.6% 3-point mark he posted in one season at Baylor, Sochan should play in the league for a long time.


Round 1 - Pick 20
Jean Montero SG
Overtime Elite • 6'2" / 180 lbs
Projected Team
San Antonio
PROSPECT RNK
20th
POSITION RNK
7th
Montero, who has been playing for Overtime Elite, looks the part of a future starting NBA point guard offensively with his ability to distribute the basketball and high-level handle. He put those traits on display in a Nike Hoop Summit exhibition vs. some of college basketball's top incoming freshmen. The questions here are whether his offense is good enough to outweigh some potential defensive limitations that come with being 6-2 and slender.


Round 1 - Pick 25
E.J. Liddell PF
Ohio State • Jr • 6'7" / 240 lbs
Projected Team
San Antonio
PROSPECT RNK
29th
POSITION RNK
8th
PPG
19.4
RPG
7.9
APG
2.5
3P%
37.4%
Liddell is like a slightly more athletic version of third-year Celtics forward Grant Williams, who is playing a big role for Boston in the NBA Playoffs after he was taken with the No. 22 pick in 2019. He's got a stocky build reminiscent of a traditional post player but can shoot 3-pointers and is agile enough to hold his own as a versatile weapon in the NBA.

[rascal]

Sochan is going to be the Spurs pick at 9.

Everything is pointing to that as the pick.
Not trilled with just missing out on higher potential players just a couple of picks before.

[Drom John]

Fansided Busting Brackets | NBA Draft 2022: Updated mock draft post combine and lottery results
Brandon Simberg, 50 seconds ago, AKA 23 May 2022


9. San Antonio Spurs – Jeremy Sochan – Baylor – Forward – Freshman

Another team I’m not exactly sure what their end goal is. They shocked everyone by taking Josh Primo at No. 12 last year, and he still looks a ways away developmentally. They are probably looking for a wing or four-man here, so I think they’ll go with Sochan.

Sochan was a late-riser in the season as his minutes and usage increased. He’s the most versatile defender in this class, having legitimate All-Defense potential down the line. The offense is raw right now, but he had some encouraging flashes as a ball-handler and playmaker. The shot needs work but I think he can become passable. Sochan is a good athlete, with long arms, and plus movement skills so the hope is that he is an elite defender with the ability to play finish, operate in the short roll and in dribble-handoffs, and hit some threes. The Spurs spacing isn’t great already, meaning Sochan would muddy things up a bit. But the defensive potential with him, Dejounte Murray, and Devin Vassell could be really interesting.


20. San Antonio Spurs – Jalen Williams – Santa Clara – Wing – Junior

Filling out their front-court depth with Sochan at No. 9, they opt for a safe plug and play option on the wing. Admittedly, I need to do more of a deep dive on Williams after an impressive combine week. He measured in well, at just under 6’6, but with a 7’2 wingspan. Williams had a productive season while showing he’s a good defender. Williams had two strong combine scrimmage games, scoring 15 points on a good percentage.

Williams isn’t a freak athlete, but has a great mix of dribbling, passing, and shooting that will help attack tilted defenses and hit shots off of lead guard creation. Stockpiling wings with these tools is super important in team creation and I doubt Williams falls out of the first round.


25. San Antonio Spurs – Christian Braun – Kansas – Wing – Junior

Taking Sochan that early makes me think San Antonio won’t want to overlap and take a Tari Eason or Patrick Baldwin Jr. here. I think they’ll continue to stockpile good wings and go with Braun. Braun was instrumental in Kansas’ national championship run, hitting threes at a decent clip, playing good defense on and off the ball, and being a plus college finisher. His combine week only helped him as he showed off his athleticism in the testing and played well in the scrimmages.

Measuring in at 6’7 was also a pleasant surprise. Like their earlier pick Jalen Williams, I believe Braun will be able to do some good things with the ball too. I’d like to see him become a more-willing shooter and quicken his release, but everything about Braun screams rotational wing.

[Drom John]

Fansided Sir Charles in Charge | NBA Mock Draft 8.0: Pistons take a gamble; Magic find their cornerstone
Michael Saenz, 1 day ago, AKA 22 May 2022


9. San Antonio Spurs – Bennedict Mathurin, F, Arizona

The San Antonio Spurs are at a bit of a crossroad this offseason. They have the Gregg Popovich question hovering over the team and plenty of personnel decisions to make as well. With a top 10 pick, the Spurs will have a chance to pick a promising prospect.

Bennedict Mathurin is a player that is likely not going to receive a ton of publicity heading into the NBA Draft, but he’s a prospect that could develop into one of the better players from this class. He has great size, is a great athlete, and flashed some offensive brilliance during his freshman year at Arizona.

Mathurin could be the next great developmental prospect for the Spurs and would be a great next addition for a team that is trying to build a young, promising core.


20. San Antonio Spurs – Jeremy Sochan, F, Baylor

You absolutely know that the San Antonio Spurs are going to make a wise pick late here in the first round. One option for the team is to add depth to the backcourt. Jeremy Sochan could be a fit. He’s a versatile forward that has the potential to be a do-it-all big in the modern game.


25. San Antonio Spurs – Jaden Hardy, G, G Leauge Ignite

Once again, it’s really difficult to gauge what the San Antonio Spurs are going to do this offseason. But they’re always looking to build and Jaden Hardy could be a long-term investment.

Hardy is a player that needs a lot of development, but there may not be a better landing spot for him than San Antonio. The team is young, is one of the best developmental franchises in the league, and could use another young guard to solidify their foundation.

[mo7888]

Love the fact that the mocks are all over the place...

[Russ]

Fansided Sir Charles in Charge | NBA Mock Draft 8.0: Pistons take a gamble; Magic find their cornerstone
Michael Saenz, 1 day ago, AKA 22 May 2022

That seems quite optimistic (even though ideally Sharpe might be better at 9).

But it's pretty damn hard to believe they're gonna get all three of those guys.

[Drom John]

Watch Stadium | Jeff Goodman’s 2022 NBA Mock Draft 2.0
Jeff Goodman, May 20, 2022


9. San Antonio Spurs – AJ Griffin, 6-6, 222, SF, Fr., Duke

The Spurs need a lot. They have Dejounte Murray, and not a ton else to build around. RC Buford needs to just go with the best player on the board, and that might be Griffin. He missed much of the preseason with a leg injury, and while he showed glimpses, he never quite put it all together. But Griffin, the son of former NBA player Adrian Griffin, has the size and shooting ability. He shot 45 percent from deep as a freshman — which is extremely impressive.

2021-22 Stats: 10.4 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 45% 3-pointers (71-159)


20. San Antonio Spurs (from Toronto) – Tari Eason, 6-8, 215, F, Soph., LSU

The Spurs could use a big-time defender, and that’s what Eason will bring right away. He’s an athletic forward who can guard multiple positions. Think of a Pascal Siakam-type of player. Long, athletic, plays hard and can really defend.

2021-22 Stats: 16.9 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 36% 3-pointers (28-78)


25. San Antonio Spurs (from Boston) – Patrick Baldwin Jr., 6-10, 230, PF, Fr., Milwaukee

Baldwin chose to play for his father at Milwaukee instead of Duke coming out of high school, and it was a tough season to say the least. Baldwin is regarded as a big-time shooter, but he made only 27 percent of his threes. He only played 11 games due to injury, but he’s got size and can make shots.

2021-22 Stats: 12.1 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 27% 3-pointers (17-64)

[Drom John]

NBC Sports Edge | 2022 NBA Mock Draft, Vol. 1
Raphielle Johnson, May 22, 2022


9. San Antonio: SG Johnny Davis (Wisconsin)

Davis had a very good sophomore season at Wisconsin, averaging 19.7 points, 8.2 rebounds, 2.1 assists, 1.2 steals, 0.7 blocks, and 1.2 3-pointers per game. If there was an issue it was the percentages, as he shot 42.7% from the field and 30.6% from three, but he's an athletic swingman who can play through contact. The perimeter shooting will need to improve, but Davis is the kind of player who can benefit from the improved spacing for the NBA game. Playing alongside a natural playmaker in Dejounte Murray would benefit Davis, who did have occasional issues with turnovers once asked to take on more of the playmaking responsibilities for the Badgers.


20. San Antonio (via Toronto): SF Kendall Brown (Baylor)

The 6-foot-8, 205-pound Brown didn't offer much as a perimeter shooter this season, doing a lot of his work offensively when in transition. Brown's combination of size and athleticism make him an intriguing forward prospect, as he can even be used at the four in smaller lineups. He can defend multiple positions without much trouble, with the five being the only spot that teams would not ask him to handle. The key for Brown early in his NBA career will be to become a more consistent player on the offensive end, especially when it comes to his ability to create quality scoring opportunities for himself in the half-court.


25. San Antonio (via Boston): SG Max Christie (Michigan State)

Christie's season at Michigan State wasn't as productive as many hoped, as he struggled with inconsistency on the offensive end of the floor. He shot 38.2% from the field and 31.7% from three, but his 82.4% mark from the foul line shows that he's capable of being an effective shooter in time. Christie has good size for a shooting guard, as he's listed at 6-foot-6, 190 pounds, and his form is solid. He's a player who stands to benefit from the spacing of the NBA game, especially if paired up with a quality perimeter creator. And San Antonio has one of those in Dejounte Murray.

[The Truth #6]

Sochan available at 20? Yeah, sure, sounds good. Why not.

[R. DeMurre]

The Sochan/Brown situation shows just how tenuous player analysis in the NCAA can be. Early in the year, Brown had more popular chatter with better impact stats, but then by the end of the college season Sochan had passed him... What's the variance there--10 games, maybe 12? That's a pretty small sample size. In the old days when college guys played multiple years, it was easier to see development and growth, but now with so many top guys being one-and-done, it's a much tougher call with more guess work. If Brown has one big game in a high profile tournament match up and Sochan has a single clunker, their positions possibly change again, and that would be based on 30 minutes of action.

[scott]

Fansided Sir Charles in Charge | NBA Mock Draft 8.0: Pistons take a gamble; Magic find their cornerstone
Michael Saenz, 1 day ago, AKA 22 May 2022

File this one under, SIGN ME UP (No Way It Happens)

[Ariel]

Mathurin + Sochan + Hardy sounds orgasmic. Mathurin may go earlier than 9, Sochan for sure will go earlier than 20... but:
Washington @ 10 has too many wings who can't shoot to add another
NY @ 11 might work but they have so many needs they may just go Duren / TyTy Washington or simple waste the pick on someone dumb
OKC @ 12 would be a natural fit but Presti might go for a higher upside guy like Dieng
Charlotte @ 13 may target a center (Williams?)
Cleveland @ 14 needs shooting more than length and defense (Agbaji?)
Charlotte @ 15 would be a good value pick. This is where it seems unlikely he keeps dropping.
Atlanta @ 16 definitely should grab him if available, given their defensive and IQ woes.
There might be a chance he lasts to 15. Making a deal with Charlotte for 15 could give us a chance at Sochan IMO.
If they like Poeltl, we can ask for 13. If they choose to use it on a center, they may go for Richardson + 38 (or 25, worst case scenario)
And we can still use 20 to trade up with Portland (or send Richardson to Portland and 20 to Charlotte, whichever works).
So that COULD be a realistic path to land both Mathurin & Sochan, IMO.

[scott]

Sochan is going to be the Spurs pick at 9.

Everything is pointing to that as the pick.
Not trilled with just missing out on higher potential players just a couple of picks before.

I get your concern with not getting an elite scorer at 9 (which we need to be higher than 9 to get). But what do you think about the idea of Sochan (or Eason, for that matter) in the context of signing Lavine?

Given we are picking 9, that still feels like the ideal outcome. Lavine signs. We draft Sochan at 9. If you can get Eason too at 20, even better, otherwise Jalen Williams or Jaden Hardy might be good to look at down there. Still got to trade one of TOR/BOS.

[Drom John]

Fantasy Pros | 2022 NBA Mock Draft: First Round Picks & Predictions
Kyle Williams, May 23, 2022


9. San Antonio Spurs – Jeremy Sochan (G – Baylor)

We know how much the Spurs like polished NBA-ready players. That’s exactly what Jeremy Sochan is; a high motor, intelligent, and safe player. His flashy defense and playmaking ability would pair nicely with Dejounte Murray


20. San Antonio Spurs – E.J. Liddell (F – Ohio State)

25. San Antonio Spurs – Nikola Jovic (G – KK Mega Basket [Serbia])

[Drom John]

Fansided King James Gospel | Mock Draft 3.0: NBA Draft comes into focus with lottery set
Josh Cornellissen, 4 minutes ago AKA 23 May 2022



9
Tari Eason
Forward, San Antonio Spurs
San Antonio Spurs

This is the first instance where my personal draft board clashes a bit with consensus, and it results in Tari Eason leaping up to ninth and the San Antonio Spurs. The former LSU Tiger was the centerpiece of their offense and defense, and in particular racked up a high number of steals and blocks doing everything on defense. His jumpshot needs some work, but that is San Antonio’s specialty, and he looks like a true difference-maker defensively.

[rascal]

I get your concern with not getting an elite scorer at 9 (which we need to be higher than 9 to get). But what do you think about the idea of Sochan (or Eason, for that matter) in the context of signing Lavine?

Given we are picking 9, that still feels like the ideal outcome. Lavine signs. We draft Sochan at 9. If you can get Eason too at 20, even better, otherwise Jalen Williams or Jaden Hardy might be good to look at down there. Still got to trade one of TOR/BOS.

Trying to sign Levine seems harder than trying to move up two or three spots in the draft.

Spurs can dangle an extra pick this year and if that doesn't work add a player or a protected FRP pick next year.

[rascal]

Mathurin + Sochan + Hardy sounds orgasmic. Mathurin may go earlier than 9, Sochan for sure will go earlier than 20... but:
Washington @ 10 has too many wings who can't shoot to add another
NY @ 11 might work but they have so many needs they may just go Duren / TyTy Washington or simple waste the pick on someone dumb
OKC @ 12 would be a natural fit but Presti might go for a higher upside guy like Dieng
Charlotte @ 13 may target a center (Williams?)
Cleveland @ 14 needs shooting more than length and defense (Agbaji?)
Charlotte @ 15 would be a good value pick. This is where it seems unlikely he keeps dropping.
Atlanta @ 16 definitely should grab him if available, given their defensive and IQ woes.
There might be a chance he lasts to 15. Making a deal with Charlotte for 15 could give us a chance at Sochan IMO.
If they like Poeltl, we can ask for 13. If they choose to use it on a center, they may go for Richardson + 38 (or 25, worst case scenario)
And we can still use 20 to trade up with Portland (or send Richardson to Portland and 20 to Charlotte, whichever works).
So that COULD be a realistic path to land both Mathurin & Sochan, IMO.

Mathurin and Sochan would be great.

Sochan as the top pick not so great.

Spurs need to do something to come out of this draft with an elite scoring prospect.

[BatManu20]

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[R. DeMurre]

Fansided Busting Brackets | NBA Draft 2022: Updated mock draft post combine and lottery results
Brandon Simberg, 50 seconds ago, AKA 23 May 2022
9. San Antonio Spurs – Jeremy Sochan – Baylor – Forward – Freshman

Another team I’m not exactly sure what their end goal is. They shocked everyone by taking Josh Primo at No. 12 last year, and he still looks a ways away developmentally. They are probably looking for a wing or four-man here, so I think they’ll go with Sochan.

Sochan was a late-riser in the season as his minutes and usage increased. He’s the most versatile defender in this class, having legitimate All-Defense potential down the line. The offense is raw right now, but he had some encouraging flashes as a ball-handler and playmaker. The shot needs work but I think he can become passable. Sochan is a good athlete, with long arms, and plus movement skills so the hope is that he is an elite defender with the ability to play finish, operate in the short roll and in dribble-handoffs, and hit some threes. The Spurs spacing isn’t great already, meaning Sochan would muddy things up a bit. But the defensive potential with him, Dejounte Murray, and Devin Vassell could be really interesting.



20. San Antonio Spurs – Jalen Williams – Santa Clara – Wing – Junior

Filling out their front-court depth with Sochan at No. 9, they opt for a safe plug and play option on the wing. Admittedly, I need to do more of a deep dive on Williams after an impressive combine week. He measured in well, at just under 6’6, but with a 7’2 wingspan. Williams had a productive season while showing he’s a good defender. Williams had two strong combine scrimmage games, scoring 15 points on a good percentage.

Williams isn’t a freak athlete, but has a great mix of dribbling, passing, and shooting that will help attack tilted defenses and hit shots off of lead guard creation. Stockpiling wings with these tools is super important in team creation and I doubt Williams falls out of the first round.



25. San Antonio Spurs – Christian Braun – Kansas – Wing – Junior

Taking Sochan that early makes me think San Antonio won’t want to overlap and take a Tari Eason or Patrick Baldwin Jr. here. I think they’ll continue to stockpile good wings and go with Braun. Braun was instrumental in Kansas’ national championship run, hitting threes at a decent clip, playing good defense on and off the ball, and being a plus college finisher. His combine week only helped

Whoa-- this is close to my current favs of Sochan at 9 and Jalen at 20, but with Jake LaRavia at 25 over Braun.

[K...]

An interesting question, we think its likely the spurs will. Trade or sell a pick, my question:Does anyone have a strong preference ovef what picks get tossed?. 20 and 25 seem too close to keep both but. Historically the spurs draft well here. Maybe 9 gets a good offer. I know without being on the phones we can't debate trades.

[The Truth #6]

Packaging 20/25 and even adding a player to move up seems logical to me.

[PhantomDashCam]

EJ Liddell seems to be mocked a little too low atm. If the playoffs have shown us anything, players who can guard multiple positions (and with Liddell, it’s not inconceivable he can guard 1 - 5; he certainly thinks he can), even when they are not making shots are still extremely valuable.
If your comparison is a “more athletic Grant Williams”, you’d have to start garnering looks late lottery…

[R. DeMurre]

Packaging 20/25 and even adding a player to move up seems logical to me.


I've gone back and forth on this. But part of me thinks the Spurs generally don't outdo other teams with trades and free agent signings-- it's in the draft where they show an advantage over most of the league. So, maybe with that being the case, give the FO four shots at it and the odds are at least one is a big hit? But I can see the appeal of combining two and moving up too.

[KingKev]

I've gone back and forth on this. But part of me thinks the Spurs generally don't outdo other teams with trades and free agent signings-- it's in the draft where they show an advantage over most of the league. So, maybe with that being the case, give the FO four shots at it and the odds are at least one is a big hit? But I can see the appeal of combining two and moving up too.

I agree as the draft is a crapshoot but I’d argue there is a recency bias that shows we've been average at best the last 4 drafts and multiple teams have been doing better in the draft.

I like taking 4 more swings which puts guys like Weiskamp, Vassell, Primo and Keldon on watch.

[Mr. Body]

I've gone back and forth on this. But part of me thinks the Spurs generally don't outdo other teams with trades and free agent signings-- it's in the draft where they show an advantage over most of the league. So, maybe with that being the case, give the FO four shots at it and the odds are at least one is a big hit? But I can see the appeal of combining two and moving up too.

I don't see adding 4 -- 4! -- rookies. That's pretty nuts. Then it gets expensive because you have to start cutting players to make room.

[scott]

I don't see adding 4 -- 4! -- rookies. That's pretty nuts. Then it gets expensive because you have to start cutting players to make room.

While adding 4 rookies and having 4 swings at a home run sounds nice... it's just not realistic for this reason, and because we don't have (no one does) the infrastructure to develop 4 young guys simultaneous while still given attention to Primo & Vassell.

Teams that bring on multiple rookies at once (Houston, OKC) don't seem to ever get anywhere with them.

[3&D_TBH]

Hoping Sochan goes before 9 and Murray falls to 9.

I want a stronger offensive player than a defensive player.

I get that. I just was a 4 with some size and some grit. I would love Murray if he fell, but Sochac is my preferred other option for the pick at 9.

[rascal]

I've gone back and forth on this. But part of me thinks the Spurs generally don't outdo other teams with trades and free agent signings-- it's in the draft where they show an advantage over most of the league. So, maybe with that being the case, give the FO four shots at it and the odds are at least one is a big hit? But I can see the appeal of combining two and moving up too.

Spurs have drafted very average the last four years.

Better to package the picks if possible to move up and get a more sure player with higher potential.

Quality is better than Quantity here.

[bluebellmaniac]

Yeah sorry to bring facts. Apologies.

This ain't no place for facts. Take that sh*t somewhere else.

[JuneJive]

While adding 4 rookies and having 4 swings at a home run sounds nice...

The more you think about it, the nicer it sounds.

Wembanyama should be the target.

[exstatic]

The more you think about it, the nicer it sounds.

Wembanyama should be the target.

We will not be drafting Wembanyama. If that is your expectation, or even your hope, you WILL be disappointed.

[tonight...you]

This ain't no place for facts. Take that sh*t somewhere else.
I wouldn't have put that in blue font.

[rascal]

We will not be drafting Wembanyama. If that is your expectation, or even your hope, you WILL be disappointed.

You never know. The Spurs can be really bad next year. They were healthy this year and still played to 14 games below .500.

And with some lottery luck get into that number 1 pick.

They got the number 1 pick this year in the rehearsal round so it can happen even with long odds.

[bluebellmaniac]

I wouldn't have put that in blue font.

Lol!

[jjspur]

Fansided Busting Brackets | NBA Draft 2022: Updated mock draft post combine and lottery results
Brandon Simberg, 50 seconds ago, AKA 23 May 2022
Socahn, jalen williams, and Christian Braun are excellent choices, all of which are right in the spurs range....no reaching for potential but drafting solid picks.

[Ariel]

We will not be drafting Wembanyama. If that is your expectation, or even your hope, you WILL be disappointed.
If the FO actually trades Poeltl & Richardson, we'll likely find ourselves in the same situation we were in last season, probably worse. And although it will be highly unlikely, we did come up with the no. 1 pick recently, if only for a rehearsal... who's to say next time won't be when it counts?
If we keep Poeltl & Richardson and sign some veteran, then yes, that chance is gone.

[KingKev]

If the FO actually trades Poeltl & Richardson, we'll likely find ourselves in the same situation we were in last season, probably worse. And although it will be highly unlikely, we did come up with the no. 1 pick recently, if only for a rehearsal... who's to say next time won't be when it counts?
If we keep Poeltl & Richardson and sign some veteran, then yes, that chance is gone.

Ex preaches the flattened odds of #1 but also doesn’t preach the flattened odds of getting #1.

[spurs1990]

Watch Stadium | Jeff Goodman’s 2022 NBA Mock Draft 2.0
Jeff Goodman, May 20, 2022

I like this mock. A Duke and another SEC player in the top 20 is the safest bet for guys who are used to the limelight.

I looked at the top four picks since 2000 and every draft save for 2005 (Unless Marvin Williams is one) had a bust. 2019-2021 too early to tell but has some potential busts as well.

Meaning the Spurs getting into this lottery top 4 could’ve landed them a bust to continue the trend anyway. I know I’m reaching but gotta bright side this as much as you can

[BackHome]

We still going to suck next year which Is OK we are not a good team but more playing time for the youngsters and still getting a top 7 draft pick next draft is all good.

[The Truth #6]

We definitely need a player who can score, but if the Spurs decide to draft and bring in two maybe three players this year who are defensive forwards with upside, then I can live with that. If they can grab Sochan or Eason, and then later EJ Liddell or Kendall Brown, then I think that would be a success, at least from a positional sanity point of view. With the later picks I'm still intrigued by Beauchamp as role play and Hardy as possible scorer. A lot of players I've lost interest in knowing more about.

As for Hardy, here's a pitch for him as a scorer: https://youtu.be/OhkQ0-pS02k

[rascal]

We still going to suck next year which Is OK we are not a good team but more playing time for the youngsters and still getting a top 7 draft pick next draft is all good.

Without a blockbuster trade to bring in a star or a jump up in the draft to get one of the top projects and even with that the Spurs will likely again be in the lottery next year.

[rascal]

I like this mock. A Duke and another SEC player in the top 20 is the safest bet for guys who are used to the limelight.

I looked at the top four picks since 2000 and every draft save for 2005 (Unless Marvin Williams is one) had a bust. 2019-2021 too early to tell but has some potential busts as well.

Meaning the Spurs getting into this lottery top 4 could’ve landed them a bust to continue the trend anyway. I know I’m reaching but gotta bright side this as much as you can

Stay away from Chet this year. He is the bust player.

Of course there is likely to be a bust in the top four but how many busts were at the 9th pick.

Your odds are better to not get a bust player with the higher picks.

[Degoat]

With one of our late picks I’m pretty in on the spurs grabbing John Butler from FSU and trying to develop him into our 4 of the future tbh
9th- Mathurin
20th- Blake Wesley
25th- John Butler.

[The Truth #6]

Discussion of Jalen Williams' prospects and appeal after the Combine:

https://youtu.be/JPoiRD24058

[scott]

Seen on twitter somewhere, would you do it:

Spurs send:

#9
#20
2023 lotto protected FRP
Josh Richardson

Kings send:

#4

This is based on the 2019 trade where the Hawks sent #8 and #17, a SRP and a protected 2020 FRP to the Pelicans for #4 (DeAndre Hunter), a 2019 SRP, and a conditional 2023 SRP.

[scott]

We don't really *need* Ivey, but we do (desperately) need an infusion of Elite Talent, which Ivey is. I'd do the deal and adjust accordingly. It would definitely take the pursuit of Lavine off the table, but we obviously can't put our eggs in that basket anyway.

[offset formation]

I am all for Chinook approach a few posts back. I felt tempted to bump it bc I am with it a 100%. I prefer a high floor prospect. Sometimes those guys do end up developing into more, like Kawhi and Butler, but even if they don’t, at least you got something. That would have been the case for taking Clarke over Luka Samanic for example. One helped his team to the conference semifinals getting big and important minutes in a good team, the other is out of the league, but he was a big swing and a miss.

I am hoping still that swing and a miss will end up not being the case with Primo, but right now its wait and see.

Id want them to get someone who has a good solid floor and who will contribute, then try to get that guy to be even better if you can. He may not be a star (Clarke isn’t for example in this comparison, but hes good.)

Either way, I’ll have to accept whatever, if they take a huge gamble I hope they hit this time. Third time is the charm…!

Had Luka panned out, the Spurs would be sitting in a much different position. So I'm OK with that swing and miss, however now that you went big then, and again with Primo and he looks to have a moderate ceiling, PATFO simply cannot employ that strategy again anytime soon. You have to do precisely what Chinook suggested and go with a player with a higher floor, especially in a draft with more questionable talent below the top 6 or 7.

[The Truth #6]

Had Luka panned out, the Spurs would be sitting in a much different position. So I'm OK with that swing and miss, however now that you went big then, and again with Primo and he looks to have a moderate ceiling, PATFO simply cannot employ that strategy again anytime soon. You have to do precisely what Chinook suggested and go with a player with a higher floor, especially in a draft with more questionable talent below the top 6 or 7.

Interesting approach. I'm not opposed to it. But who has the high floor at 9? Eason? Mathurin if he's still there? Davis? Dyson Daniels?

[rascal]

Seen on twitter somewhere, would you do it:

Spurs send:

#9
#20
2023 lotto protected FRP
Josh Richardson

Kings send:

#4

This is based on the 2019 trade where the Hawks sent #8 and #17, a SRP and a protected 2020 FRP to the Pelicans for #4 (DeAndre Hunter), a 2019 SRP, and a conditional 2023 SRP.

Yes and draft Sharpe. Sharpe has a higher ceiling than Ivey. You swing for the Home Run here.

[spurs1990]

Stay away from Chet this year. He is the bust player.

Of course there is likely to be a bust in the top four but how many busts were at the 9th pick.

Your odds are better to not get a bust player with the higher picks.

lots of so-so’s at 9 since the Duncan draft but a good slew of players who became all-stars, got big contracts, or were entrenched starters.

Not including Mitchell, Aveeda, or Huchimara, the 9th pick got you:

2016 - Jakob Poetle
2012 - Andre Drummond
2011 - Kamba Walker
2010 - Gordon Hayward
2009 - Demar derozan
2007 - Joachim Noah
2004 - Andre iguadala
2002 - Amare Stoudamire
1999 - Shawn Marion
1998 - Dirk Niwitski
1997 - Tracy MCgrady

So 11 out 22 panned put. 50% batting average.

[Chinook]

Interesting approach. I'm not opposed to it. But who has the high floor at 9? Eason? Mathurin if he's still there? Davis? Dyson Daniels?

There's so much volatility in mocks right now, but if we were talking about floor rankings, Eason, Murray and Davis would probably be up there. I think you could also argue that AJ Griffin is on that list given his shooting. The point is to not pick someone like Poke or Sam where you're giving up all agency in the draft and treating it like a game of slots. That's loser, Hinkie shit. The draft isn't a crap shoot. From afar, things appear to follow probabilities, but the reality is that every player picked will be an individual, and teams picking them will have a lot of say in their development. If the Spurs take Duren, Dieng or Baldwin, it shouldn't be because they're playing the lotto. They should have a realistic plan for how those players can progress to add a certain amount of value to the club over the life of their contracts.

If Murray locks down the starting PF job and plays well enough to hang there for eight years, the amount of value he adds to the Spurs would be really hard for a project to make up. If Eason is the guy who can play next to Keldon Johnson to let Keldon hide of defense and be his best self on offense, who cares if Eason himself is just a role-player? If all Davis does is muddy the SG position by raising the floor for the competition, is that really the worst thing? As I said before, Sam was bad. He was a bad pick with bad ideas that went into making it. We'll see on Primo. I think too many fans think the Spurs believed he was going to be a star and expected him to show that early. In reality, I don't think he was any more disappointing than DJM was in his first season. Regardless, I don't the Spurs should let those guys inform their valuations this year, but I do think they should not employ a flat understanding of potential and instead consider the more dynamic way it interacts with development and on-court contributions.

[offset formation]

Interesting approach. I'm not opposed to it. But who has the high floor at 9? Eason? Mathurin if he's still there? Davis? Dyson Daniels?

Yes, Murray (if he's still there), Mathurian, Jovic, and Dieng for sure, from my perspective. Eason to a lesser extent. I think Davis and Daniels are less sure.

The key is to get someone who might not be an All-Star but that you really see developing into a guy that's no deeper than second or so off the bench 5 years down the road. Doing that may limit your individual upside but you can build a team with those guys just like Memphis did...Remembering that Memphis was like 24-4 *without* Ja.

I think Memphis has been drafting their ass off with that philosophy for the last 4 or 5 years then picking up those guys, and not the all-star types, in free agency.

[The Truth #6]

Yes, Murray (if he's still there), Mathurian, Jovic, and Dieng for sure, from my perspective. Eason to a lesser extent. I think Davis and Daniels are less sure.

The key is to get someone who might not be an All-Star but that you really see developing into a guy that's no deeper than second or so off the bench 5 years down the road. Doing that may limit your individual upside but you can build a team with those guys just like Memphis did...Remembering that Memphis was like 24-4 *without* Ja.

I think Memphis has been drafting their ass off with that philosophy for the last 4 or 5 years then picking up those guys, and not the all-star types, in free agency.

I definitely like Memphis’ approach to players more or less. To quibble, I see Dieng as low floor/high ceiling due to his youth and inexperience. I see Eason as having a high defensive floor, but lots of variables with how far he can go.

For later picks, EJ Lidell seems safe.

[TD 21]

Interesting approach. I'm not opposed to it. But who has the high floor at 9? Eason? Mathurin if he's still there? Davis? Dyson Daniels?

Mathurin. Presuming the shooting translates (you never know; look at Nesmith), add it to athleticism, positional size and strength and there's a clear path to minimally being a floor spacer who can at least be a non liability defender.

I'm not interested in all of these non shooters.

[Mr. Body]

Johnny Davis has the highest floor of those likely in the #9 range. I feel his defense, effort, rebounding and hustle will directly translate.

[offset formation]

I definitely like Memphis’ approach to players more or less. To quibble, I see Dieng as low floor/high ceiling due to his youth and inexperience. I see Eason as having a high defensive floor, but lots of variables with how far he can go.

For later picks, EJ Lidell seems safe.

Dieng is so quick and athletic for someone 6'10". He dribbles like a guard. He's above average on defense. And he's a PnR beast. His shooting is what may or may not make him all star level imo.

OKC scout is on record saying he could be the steal of the draft.

To me, his floor is plenty high just on his stature and athleticism alone. He's a potentially better Brandon Clarke that's had lots of impact his first couple years in the league.

Agree on Lidell though.

Also think Cockburn is a high floor guy at 25 or 38.

[scott]

Yes and draft Sharpe. Sharpe has a higher ceiling than Ivey. You swing for the Home Run here.

Meh. Maybe, but bust rate is a lot higher for Sharpe. No way I'm taking him over Ivey.

[JPB]

Seen on twitter somewhere, would you do it:

Spurs send:

#9
#20
2023 lotto protected FRP
Josh Richardson

Kings send:

#4

This is based on the 2019 trade where the Hawks sent #8 and #17, a SRP and a protected 2020 FRP to the Pelicans for #4 (DeAndre Hunter), a 2019 SRP, and a conditional 2023 SRP.

3 FRPS (including a 9th) and a solid rotation player for a #4 who isn't a surefire top player.

hell, no.

Let's not fantasize too much about this draft and see a decisive game changer down any pick just because spurs need one. that the kind of trade desperate GMs would do. The guy bust and you're fucked. It's fine and all to be virtual GM'ing but you don't jeopardize your future with a bet.

Spurs are not the Lakers and can't eventually reload on the fly. LA did but for AD with Lebron and a ring and they're in pretty bad shape now. Spurs can't do it for a #4 who ain't AD and wouldn't make spurs a contender anyway.

[exstatic]

Seen on twitter somewhere, would you do it:

Spurs send:

#9
#20
2023 lotto protected FRP
Josh Richardson

Kings send:

#4

This is based on the 2019 trade where the Hawks sent #8 and #17, a SRP and a protected 2020 FRP to the Pelicans for #4 (DeAndre Hunter), a 2019 SRP, and a conditional 2023 SRP.

Absolutely not. People talk about a top 4, but it’s really a top 3: Banchero, holmgren, Smith. There is no one outside of that trio that you should mortgage that much of your future for.

[Chomag]

Just stay away from Chet unless that dude joins Lebron's PED program he is not going to be very effective at the NBA level.

[duncan2150]

Seen on twitter somewhere, would you do it:

Spurs send:

#9
#20
2023 lotto protected FRP
Josh Richardson

Kings send:

#4

This is based on the 2019 trade where the Hawks sent #8 and #17, a SRP and a protected 2020 FRP to the Pelicans for #4 (DeAndre Hunter), a 2019 SRP, and a conditional 2023 SRP.

nope, that's too much.

Even without the 2023 FRP i'll have to think about it. Depends on who is there.

[Dejounte]

Just one more month until we get our future superstar

[mo7888]

Reserve the right to change my mind as we get more workout data but right now at 9 I'd take Murray, Mathurin or Duren if they fall ...if they don't I'd take Dieng... at 20 and 25 I'd look hard at getting one of these guys.. PBJ, EJ, Eason (if he falls) or Jovic, ...for the other pick I like Procida, Moore Jr, Hardy, Wesley, and Branham...

[RiverwalkParade]

What would you say is the trade value on 9?

[Drom John]

Game Haus | 2022 NBA Mock Draft May 24
Joe DiTullo, May 24, 2022


9. San Antonio Spurs- Jalen Duren, C, Memphis

Duren was one of the bright spots on a Memphis team that battled to make the NCAA Tournament. He protects the rim and rebounds well.


20. San Antonio Spurs- MarJon Beauchamp, G, G-League

Beauchamp needs to shoot 3-pointers better and the Spurs are the team that has done a good job of working with players like that in the past.


25. San Antonio Spurs- E.J. Liddell, F, Ohio State

Liddell is a forward that can shoot and score on all three levels.

[Drom John]

Lineups | 2022 NBA Mock Draft 3.0: Orlando Magic Win The Lottery, What Next?
Andrew Norton, May 23, 2023


9. San Antonio Spurs – Johnny Davis, Wisconsin

Few players would fit the “Spurs System” better than Johnny Davis. Davis was a menace on defense for a Wisconsin team that was elite on that end of the floor. Additionally, you could book Davis for 20 points per night against any team in America; he rose from a virtually unknown player to a household name in the collegiate basketball world in just a few months. Not many players are willing to outwork Davis, and I feel that he would fit in flawlessly next to Dejounte Murray in San Antonio. This pick entirely depends on which position San Antonio values the most right now.


20. San Antonio Spurs (from Toronto Raptors) – Jalen Duren, Memphis

25. San Antonio Spurs (from Boston Celtics) – Kendall Brown, Baylor