Tulsa Hospital Shooting

[DMC]

"It's just difficult to get anything done on this" -party in control

[Thread]

Let's just hope the shooter is colored like the last one in Texas.

[daboom1]

Let's just hope the shooter is colored like the last one in Texas.

https://twitter.com/ScottPresler/status/1532157573541023745?t

[SnakeBoy]

What kind of gun was it?

[Thread]

https://twitter.com/ScottPresler/status/1532157573541023745?t

That's gonna go over like a fart in church at CNN.

[Spurs Homer]

Amerikkka

[ElNono]

Only 5 dead? This is ChIcAGo on a friday night...

[TimDunkem]

"Thoughts and prayers, look at this mental health bill, even a single gun control bill is pointless, etc, etc" - Republicans

[Thread]

"Thoughts and prayers, look at this mental health bill, even a single gun control bill is pointless, etc, etc" - Republicans

You're not getting the guns, TDPERIOD

[SnakeBoy]

Only 5 dead? This is ChIcAGo on a friday night...

Chicago Weekend Shootings: More Than 50 Shot, 9 Fatally, in Memorial Day Weekend Violence
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-weekend-shootings-at-least-48-shot-8-fatally-in-memorial-day-weekend-gun-violence/2845854/

They just need moar background checks

[Dirks_Finale]

That's gonna go over like a fart in church at CNN.

Yes, now a non story in MSM and from the liberals in this forum. Yet another that did not fit the narrative. Shame, shame.

[ElNono]

Chicago Weekend Shootings: More Than 50 Shot, 9 Fatally, in Memorial Day Weekend Violence
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-weekend-shootings-at-least-48-shot-8-fatally-in-memorial-day-weekend-gun-violence/2845854/

They just need moar background checks

And mental health checks...

But, nothing can really be done, so... shrug

[TimDunkem]

You're not getting the guns, TDPERIOD
I don't want 'em, even if I believe you don't need them...No reason there shouldn't be more layers of security to prevent them from falling into the hands of madmen. Why can't we agree on this, friendo?

[Splits]

Time to harden our hospitals

Was there no mental health at this place?

[Blake]

Yes, now a non story in MSM and from the liberals in this forum. Yet another that did not fit the narrative. Shame, shame.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/tulsa-hospital-shooting-06-01-22/index.html

Why do you guys lie? Did you only find this on some alt right forum and assume msm isn't picking it up?

[Ef-man]

Time to harden our hospitals

Was there no mental health at this place?

Or put them in military bases, with kids.

[Blake]

What kind of gun was it?

Who cares? He could have just as easily used a van to drive up to the second floor.

[Blake]

Time to harden our hospitals

Was there no mental health at this place?

Easy to spend money to install bullet proof windows and K-9 patrols

[Ef-man]

What kind of gun was it?

Snake with the Chuncko sense of humor.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/TastyCornyCrow-max-1mb.gif

[ElNono]

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/tulsa-hospital-shooting-06-01-22/index.html

Why do you guys lie? Did you only find this on some alt right forum and assume msm isn't picking it up?

Looks like you haven't met the MSM boogeyman yet...

[ElNono]

It's Oklahoma though, I wouldn't blame any news channel if they didn't have a crew there...

[SnakeBoy]

Who cares? He could have just as easily used a van to drive up to the second floor.

Just wondering if it was a 9mm. Those things will blow yer lungs right out of the body. It's crazy how powerful they are. Only belong on the battlefield tbh.

[DMC]

Chicago Weekend Shootings: More Than 50 Shot, 9 Fatally, in Memorial Day Weekend Violence
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-weekend-shootings-at-least-48-shot-8-fatally-in-memorial-day-weekend-gun-violence/2845854/

They just need moar background checks

Racist

[DMC]

Just wondering if it was a 9mm. Those things will blow yer lungs right out of the body. It's crazy how powerful they are. Only belong on the battlefield tbh.

You've heard of the .50 Desert Eagle? This is the 9mm Blood Eagle

[Ef-man]

If only there was only one entrance to the hospital, with a metal detector at entry point, bullet proof windows, a good guy with a gun present, and fencing with concertina wire.

[ElNono]

Just wondering if it was a 9mm. Those things will blow yer lungs right out of the body. It's crazy how powerful they are. Only belong on the battlefield tbh.


You've heard of the .50 Desert Eagle? This is the 9mm Blood Eagle

Don't have to worry about it, nothing can be done, tbh...

[Spurminator]

Yes, now a non story in MSM and from the liberals in this forum. Yet another that did not fit the narrative. Shame, shame.

Once again, you're the real victim here.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Trumptards preemptively circling the wagons.

[daboom1]

You've heard of the .50 Desert Eagle? This is the 9mm Blood Eagle

:lol

[daboom1]

Only 2 pages tells you a lot.

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I don't want 'em, even if I believe you don't need them...No reason there shouldn't be more layers of security to prevent them from falling into the hands of madmen. Why can't we agree on this, friendo?

Simple; because that's what "you" want.

Uh, uh.

[Dirks_Finale]

Once again, you're the real victim here.


I'm sorry that the shooter wasn't a white male who once posted a pro-Trump message on social media.

[Dirks_Finale]

Just wondering if it was a 9mm. Those things will blow yer lungs right out of the body. It's crazy how powerful they are. Only belong on the battlefield tbh.

:lol

[DMC]

If only there was only one entrance to the hospital, with a metal detector at entry point, bullet proof windows, a good guy with a gun present, and fencing with concertina wire.

Ukraine attacked - "send moar weapons!"

Americans attacked - "remove moar weapons!"

[DMC]

Don't have to worry about it, nothing can be done, tbh...

Not true. Stitts is praying for the victims and their families.

[DMC]

George Strait - "Tell me somethin' bad about Tulsa"

Me - "Well there's a nutjob shooting people at the hospital campus"

George Strait - "that doesn't fit into a country song very well"

Me - "ok"

[Dick Jones]

Time to give nurses guns.

[Dick Jones]

Just wondering if it was a 9mm. Those things will blow yer lungs right out of the body. It's crazy how powerful they are. Only belong on the battlefield tbh.
Too bad there aren’t any dead kids to really get your creative juices flowing, instead you’re posting old retread jokes. Sad!

[Blake]

Ukraine attacked - "send moar weapons!"

Americans attacked - "remove moar weapons!"

Totally the same thing

[Spurminator]

I'm sorry that the shooter wasn't a white male who once posted a pro-Trump message on social media.

As far as I can tell, we don't know anything about the shooter but that hasn't stopped you from having a persecution complex over the dead.


Once again, you're the real victim here.

[Leetonidas]

The right wingers on this site are truly pathetic

[Spurminator]

The right wingers on this site are truly pathetic

Profoundly unhappy and depressed, but maybe this website is keeping them from a worse scenario.

[baseline bum]

Sad to see another mentally ill lone wolf having a bad day. Hospitals should only have one door.

[Blake]

The right wingers on this site are truly pathetic

wHy iS nObOdY taLkiNg abOUt thIs

In a thread talking about it

[Blake]

Sad to see another mentally ill lone wolf having a bad day. Hospitals should only have one door.

Bullet proof doors and windows, regular k-9 patrols etc

[Joseph Kony]

George Strait - "Tell me somethin' bad about Tulsa"

Me - "Well there's a nutjob shooting people at the hospital campus"

George Strait - "that doesn't fit into a country song very well"

Me - "ok"
https://i.ibb.co/pQRVHNQ/jker.png

[Thread]

The right wingers on this site are truly pathetic

You just don't like looking at yourself after...

Trump President.
Not Clinton.

[Thread]

Ukraine attacked - "send moar weapons!"

Americans attacked - "remove moar weapons!"


D M C

[Thread]

I'm sorry that the shooter wasn't a white male who once posted a pro-Trump message on social media.


Fuckin' eh.

[Ef-man]

Ukraine attacked - "send moar weapons!"

Americans attacked - "remove moar weapons!"

So Ukraine needs just one entrance with metal detector, bullet proof border windows, a good guy with a gun, and fencing like a military base, got it.

[Blake]

So Ukraine needs just one entrance with metal detector, bullet proof border windows, a good guy with a gun, and fencing like a military base, got it.

Border wall and make Russia pay for it

[ChumpDumper]

Jeez, did the gunman try CBD first?

[Thread]

Jeez, did the gunman try CBD first?

He Black?

[Winehole23]

it's far too easy to get guns

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[Blake]

it's far too easy to get guns

1532383186939936768

Nothing can be done

[Spurminator]

1532392747759550466

Arm the doctors.

[Spurminator]

A dude on pain meds for recent back surgery was able to purchase an AR-15 and use it that same day, but what are you gonna do?

It's unconstitutional to subject this well regulated Militia to a waiting period and background check.

[Ef-man]

Jeez, did the gunman try CBD first?

He stood his ground.

[Spurs Homer]

But the biggest -Lead news of the day last night on cucker tarlson?


CANADA’S DICTATOR TRUDEAU TAKES AWAY INNOCENT CANADIANS RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES!!!


:cry:cry:cry

[Spurminator]

https://twitter.com/ScottPresler/status/1532157573541023745?t

Oopsy!

Trusted source #ThePersistence whiffs again.

[Leetonidas]

:lol the right wingers thinking him being African American somehow is a win for them

[Leetonidas]

Oopsy!

Trusted source #ThePersistence whiffs again.

Qhris follows accounts that post fake news? :wow shocker

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He Black?


:lol the right wingers thinking him being African American somehow is a win for them

He Black.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol the right wingers thinking him being African American somehow is a win for them

:lol Yeah we're not posting about this shooting at all! Look at us!

[Thread]

:lol Yeah we're not posting about this shooting at all! Look at us!


He Black.

[Trill Clinton]

The white male fragility from the board white supremacists is strong in here. Sorry this is happening to you.

[Thread]

The white male fragility from the board white supremacists is strong in here. Sorry this is happening to you.

Bottom line, TC; He Black.

[ChumpDumper]

The white male fragility from the board white supremacists is strong in here. Sorry this is happening to you.

:lol he mad because we're not posting in his duplicate thread

[Thread]

He Black?

Did the Mav's leave the Suns where they found 'em/right up the street from Dale?

tee, hee.

[Thread]

:lol he mad because we're not posting in his duplicate thread

He Black.

[Spurminator]

1531848735692423169

Two innocent bystanders shot.

What is the point of open carrying if you can't use it when someone draws first?

[ElNono]

1531848735692423169

Two innocent bystanders shot.

What is the point of open carrying if you can't use it when someone draws first?

Needed a third good guy with a gun. But nothing can be done.

[Ef-man]

1531848735692423169

Two innocent bystanders shot.

What is the point of open carrying if you can't use it when someone draws first?

Obviously, Biden failed as the open carry guy needed one entrance way with metal detectors, bullet proof windows, a good guy with guns, and fencing around him like in military bases.

[Thread]

He Black.

[SnakeBoy]

Libs refuse to talk about this one :lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lol the right wingers thinking him being African American somehow is a win for them


:lol Yeah we're not posting about this shooting at all! Look at us!

:lmao Snack

[Trill Clinton]

Libs refuse to talk about this one :lol

its pretty open/shut tbh. mentally ill lone wolf on a revenge mission. SAWM's set the bar high so anything under 10 bodies with no manifesto is an outlier tbh.

[Spurminator]

Libs refuse to talk about this one :lol

When your trolling turns into just stating the opposite of what's happening, you might be out of troll material.

[Thread]

He Black.

& most likely wanted an old fashioned narcotic for the pain and the Doctor gave him the old run-around as they're apt to do these days over the Oxy materiel.

"Instead, Mr. Louis, I'll give you a script for 6 X-Large Tylenol's, 800 mg a piece!"

In other words; the doctor fucked up & found out.

It happens.

[Spurminator]

its pretty open/shut tbh. mentally ill lone wolf on a revenge mission. SAWM's set the bar high so anything under 10 bodies with no manifesto is an outlier tbh.

After the Buffalo shooting, the libs talked about race because it was someone who targeted black victims after racist rants about replacement theory online (while MAGAtards like Snakeboy deflected).

After the Tulsa shooting, Snakeboy wants to talk about race because (checks notes) the shooter is black.

We've got a real bright one here folks. A picture of mental stability and intellectual honesty.

[SnakeBoy]

When your trolling turns into just stating the opposite of what's happening, you might be out of troll material.

Seems to be working tbh

[ChumpDumper]

If you wanted to be immediately destroyed and ridiculed, mission accomplished.

:lol Snack

[Blake]

Seems to be working tbh

Does it tho?

[koriwhat]

Just wondering if it was a 9mm. Those things will blow yer lungs right out of the body. It's crazy how powerful they are. Only belong on the battlefield tbh.

:lmao:lol:tu

[koriwhat]

its pretty open/shut tbh. mentally ill lone wolf on a revenge mission. SAWM's set the bar high so anything under 10 bodies with no manifesto is an outlier tbh.

Always with the excuses... Come on you fucking honkey you can do better!

[spurraider21]

people get shut in buffalo and uvalde

liberals: probably shouldnt be able to get guns so easily

people get shot in tulsa

conservatives: but what if the shooter is black?

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people get shut in buffalo and uvalde

liberals: probably shouldnt be able to get guns so easily

people get shot in tulsa

conservatives: but what if the shooter is black?

...you did the white thing. You've nary room.

You had this comin', 21.

[Thread]

After the Buffalo shooting, the libs talked about race because it was someone who targeted black victims after racist rants about replacement theory online (while MAGAtards like Snakeboy deflected).

After the Tulsa shooting, Snakeboy wants to talk about race because (checks notes) the shooter is black.

We've got a real bright one here folks. A picture of mental stability and intellectual honesty.


& after that NYC Subway shooter who was Black and had a manifesto hating on White. That got short shrift. You was warned then your day was coming.

That day has arrived.

Stop whining!!!

[koriwhat]

people get shut in buffalo and uvalde

liberals: probably shouldnt be able to get guns so easily

people get shot in tulsa

conservatives: but what if the shooter is black?

Lmao "so easily"

[Ef-man]

Lmao "so easily"

Well even a druggie like you can get one, so, yeah.

[koriwhat]

Well even a druggie like you can get one, so, yeah.

What do you specifically "know"(better yet, parrot) outside of your little eBubble here on ST? Do tell... I'll wait to see exactly what you know about me and not the make believe you continuously spread here on ST like the little bitch that you are.

[Ef-man]

What do you specifically "know"(better yet, parrot) outside of your little eBubble here on ST? Do tell... I'll wait to see exactly what you know about me and not the make believe you continuously spread here on ST like the little bitch that you are.
1/4 cup of coconut oil
1-2 tsps of lecithen
1/2 of mj
12 hrs at 160 in a crockpot stirred occassionaly
strain and make whatever you'd like with it. the oil is a 1:1 conversion from butter.

most use 1 cup oil with 1/4 mj but like i said, edibles don't really do much to me unless made with concentrated thc oil.

have fun!

with that recipe i just make rice kyrspy's because they call for a 1/4 cup of butter but watch out because at that ratio it is fucking strong(still not strong enough to me though... sadly).

if you use water in that recipe because you need to meet a certain level in your crockpot or buttermaker then after straining it chill it in the fridge overnight. then once the water and oil separate just scrape up the oil and discard the water.

[koriwhat]

Oh no not a recipe for edibles... Say it ain't so! Lmao @ you making a mountain out of a mole hill strictly because I think you're a little bitch just like your eFriends here. Get a life you fucking bitch.

Btw 2018, what about now? Oh and it's funny how you have me archived and don't claim you just searched because that's pretty specific tbh. Why are you such a bitch bro?

[Blake]

Of course crazy tats wants to turn a thread about people getting shot into an insecure talk about how he's not a druggy thread

[koriwhat]

Here comes that puto BlaKKKe to the rescue... Should've put this much effort into rescuing your marriage but instead you like to play with the boys online.

[DMC]

^:lol

[DMC]

its pretty open/shut tbh. mentally ill lone wolf on a revenge mission. SAWM's set the bar high so anything under 10 bodies with no manifesto is an outlier tbh.

Affirmative action in play, he gets graded on a curve because of white privilege. His 4 is now 24.

[Ef-man]

Oh no not a recipe for edibles... Say it ain't so! Lmao @ you making a mountain out of a mole hill strictly because I think you're a little bitch just like your eFriends here. Get a life you fucking bitch.

Btw 2018, what about now? Oh and it's funny how you have me archived and don't claim you just searched because that's pretty specific tbh. Why are you such a bitch bro?

Listen, you two bit good for nothing pussy, bitch, midget!

You go around happily sharing recipes for edibles like you are Martha Stewart in a public forum and then try to deny your drug usage?

I would say, man up but a retarded high school flunky like you would not understand, you miserable piece of shit!

I hope you die a horrible death but live a long life so you can continue being ridiculed for the worthless piece of human excrement you are!

God bless.

[Winehole23]

Affirmative action in play, he gets graded on a curve because of white privilege. His 4 is now 24.that's not what happened in this thread.

[Chucho]

Snake with the Chuncko sense of humor.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/TastyCornyCrow-max-1mb.gif


Rent free from the local load wiper looking for a pat on the head. -10 for using shitty Fatts nicknames, Bonnerific. You've had the longest audition for acceptance, ever.

[Blake]

Chucho with his once every three months both sides poster commentary. Good choice of threads to do it in.

[Spurminator]

Chucho with his once every three months both sides poster commentary. Good choice of threads to do it in.

It's always threads where DMC is getting destroyed. Every time.

[Ef-man]

Rent free from the local load wiper looking for a pat on the head. -10 for using shitty Fatts nicknames, Bonnerific. You've had the longest audition for acceptance, ever.

Speaking of rent free, bonnerific fucked you good! :lmao :lmao :lmao

You “unretired” just to get bukkaked!

[Thread]

Bottom line; He Black.

[Thread]

^^^^^^^^^

[koriwhat]

Listen, you two bit good for nothing pussy, bitch, midget!

You go around happily sharing recipes for edibles like you are Martha Stewart in a public forum and then try to deny your drug usage?

I would say, man up but a retarded high school flunky like you would not understand, you miserable piece of shit!

I hope you die a horrible death but live a long life so you can continue being ridiculed for the worthless piece of human excrement you are!

God bless.

Should I cry like yall do about "wishing death on others"? It's hilarious that you sit behind your anonymity but call me a pussy. You're fucking dumb as fuck bro. Give your mother a kiss for me later tonight you stupid fuck.

[koriwhat]

Rent free from the local load wiper looking for a pat on the head. -10 for using shitty Fatts nicknames, Bonnerific. You've had the longest audition for acceptance, ever.

No wonder Ef comes across as Bonnerific; it all makes sense now. Both are little bitches who think they're tough but hide behind alts.

[Blake]

No wonder Ef comes across as Bonnerific; it all makes sense now. Both are little bitches who think they're tough but hide behind alts.

Putting words here just to make Kori post a paragraph

[DMC]

New law: Shooters must wait at least 5 days after gun acquisition before launching into a mass shooting spree. That seems to be the issue at hand, doing this the same day of the attack, or right on your birthday.

[spurraider21]

New law: Shooters must wait at least 5 days after gun acquisition before launching into a mass shooting spree. That seems to be the issue at hand, doing this the same day of the attack, or right on your birthday.
silly waiting time laws. clearly the only conceivable options are to do absolutely nothing at all or repeal the second amendment and ban/confiscate all guns.

[Ef-man]

Should I cry like yall do about "wishing death on others"? It's hilarious that you sit behind your anonymity but call me a pussy. You're fucking dumb as fuck bro. Give your mother a kiss for me later tonight you stupid fuck.

I tried channeling you, calf-tats, if it was not obvious, you shit for brains pussy bitch, hope you die, commie fuck, say that to my face idiot, god bless. :lol

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He Black.

[DMC]

silly waiting time laws. clearly the only conceivable options are to do absolutely nothing at all or repeal the second amendment and ban/confiscate all guns.

Sorry all your internet snark hasn't changed anything. You've tried so hard to avoid making any real suggestions. I guess ignorance isn't as powerful as you thought.

[DMC]

..

[DMC]

It's always threads where DMC is getting destroyed. Every time.

Grading your own paper :lol

[koriwhat]

I tried channeling you, calf-tats, if it was not obvious, you shit for brains pussy bitch, hope you die, commie fuck, say that to my face idiot, god bless. :lol

Whatever you say you nerd. You're such a weak individual on so many levels bro and you know that's not my truth but it is the truth. You and a handful of others here tbh. :tu

[DMC]

Whatever you say you nerd. You're such a weak individual on so many levels bro and you know that's not my truth but it is the truth. You and a handful of others here tbh. :tu

And he's fat. Don't forget the fat part.

[koriwhat]

And he's fat. Don't forget the fat part.

IDC either way... He talks shit but in the end diabetes, high blood pressure, clogged arteries, ect will eat these fucking loser leftists up eventually. That or the constant blue or pink dye in their hair.

[spurraider21]

Sorry all your internet snark hasn't changed anything. You've tried so hard to avoid making any real suggestions. I guess ignorance isn't as powerful as you thought.
Crazy that sharing opinions on a forum hadn’t led to actual legislative change. And here i thought it would. Though i have made actual suggestions multiple times

[DMC]

silly waiting time laws. clearly the only conceivable options are to do absolutely nothing at all or repeal the second amendment and ban/confiscate all guns.


Crazy that sharing opinions on a forum hadn’t led to actual legislative change. And here i thought it would. Though i have made actual suggestions multiple times

Clearly you've made powerful suggestions.

[Winehole23]

DMC still jeering at message boards for being politically ineffective.

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Originally Posted by Thread (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10748328#post10748328)

He Black.

[DMC]

DMC still jeering at message boards for being politically ineffective.
Thanks for the update.

[spurraider21]

Clearly you've made powerful suggestions.


Crazy that sharing opinions on a forum hadn’t led to actual legislative change.

[SnakeBoy]

silly waiting time laws. clearly the only conceivable options are to do absolutely nothing at all or repeal the second amendment and ban/confiscate all guns.

Correct

[DMC]

more unrelated comparisons without making any point whatsoever

What actual suggestions have you made?

[koriwhat]

What actual suggestions have you made?

Nukes... He thinks people can get nukes. That's who you're speaking with which is a disingenuous person.

[spurraider21]

What actual suggestions have you made?
- heavily incentivized buyback programs, state or national level. cash for clunkers as something of a model for it. biggest issue is the amount of guns in circulation. cut back at that. government preferably scraps them
- buying them back is great, but keeping the number in circulation low is good too. manufacturing/import limits.
- make it harder to buy them. require licensing for them which include regular (annual, every two years, i dno) psychological screening and/or needing to renew said license. license would require training for that type of weapon. handgun, rifle, etc. just like we have classes of drivers licenses for different vehicles
- ban private sales altogether with the exception of antique/legacy weapons. if you want to sell a gun, it goes to a state/federal buyback. like i said, buybacks should be heavily incentivized, possibly even at or above market value. probably have a check for people gaming the system by limiting amount of guns a person can purchase in a given period of time
- more comprehensive background checks. mandatory waiting periods.
- capacity limits on all sorts of weapons
- assault weapons ban from the 90s was generally effective as well


a few of the top of my head that i've mentioned on this site at one time or another. people more knowledgeable than me would do a better job putting it into actual legislative language

[koriwhat]

- heavily incentivized buyback programs, state or national level. cash for clunkers as something of a model for it. biggest issue is the amount of guns in circulation. cut back at that. government preferably scraps them
- buying them back is great, but keeping the number in circulation low is good too. manufacturing/import limits.
- make it harder to buy them. require licensing for them which include regular (annual, every two years, i dno) psychological screening and/or needing to renew said license.
- ban private sales altogether with the exception of antique/legacy weapons. if you want to sell a gun, it goes to a state/federal buyback.
- more comprehensive background checks. mandatory waiting periods.
- capacity limits on all sorts of weapons
- assault weapons ban from the 90s was generally effective as well


a few of the top of my head that i've mentioned on this site at one time or another

How about pussies like you just move the fuck to weak ass Canada already and that'll solve all our problems.

[spurraider21]

How about pussies like you just move the fuck to weak ass Canada already and that'll solve all our problems.
quiet, honey. adults are talking

[koriwhat]

quiet, honey. adults are talking

You're def not an adult if you think citizens can procure nukes. If anything you're in arrested development and by the way you play make believe it stands to be correct.

[koriwhat]

Btw what male calls another male "honey"? Fucking weirdo.

[spurraider21]

You're def not an adult if you think citizens can procure nukes. If anything you're in arrested development and by the way you play make believe it stands to be correct.
do you believe there should be any upper limit on the grade of weaponry that any individual should be able to own?

[DMC]

- heavily incentivized buyback programs, state or national level. cash for clunkers as something of a model for it. biggest issue is the amount of guns in circulation. cut back at that. government preferably scraps them
- buying them back is great, but keeping the number in circulation low is good too. manufacturing/import limits.
- make it harder to buy them. require licensing for them which include regular (annual, every two years, i dno) psychological screening and/or needing to renew said license.
- ban private sales altogether with the exception of antique/legacy weapons. if you want to sell a gun, it goes to a state/federal buyback. like i said, buybacks should be heavily incentivized, possibly even at or above market value. probably have a check for people gaming the system by limiting amount of guns a person can purchase in a given period of time
- more comprehensive background checks. mandatory waiting periods.
- capacity limits on all sorts of weapons
- assault weapons ban from the 90s was generally effective as well


a few of the top of my head that i've mentioned on this site at one time or another. people more knowledgeable than me would do a better job putting it into actual legislative language

1. Do you consider a Daniels Defense AR-15 to be a clunker? This is the gun that was used.
2. There are 400 million guns in circulation. Check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_buyback_program for history of these programs across the US.
3. Most people doing these shootings have no criminal history. A private citizen cannot get access to the ATF or FBI database, only a FFL can do a background check and even then it's yes or no. You'd have to do the private sale restriction 1st.
4. Bans only work when you can track what you're banning. Cocaine is banned.. for example. So how can you restrict private sales if a gun isn't registered to an owner? What evidence could exist that can be used to prosecute offenders?
5. As for the ban...

Gun bans and gun crime

Evidence is mixed about the effectiveness of previous gun bans. Federal restrictions enacted in 1934 on the ownership of fully automatic weapons (machine guns) appear to have been quite successful based on the rarity with which such guns are used in crime.

Washington, D.C.’s restrictive handgun licensing system, which went into effect in 1976, produced a drop in gun fatalities that lasted for several years after its enactment. Yet, State and local bans on handguns have been found to be ineffective in other research. The inconsistency of previous findings may reflect, in part, the interplay of several effects that a ban may have on gun markets. To reduce criminal use of guns and the tragic consequences of such use, a ban must make the existing stockpile of guns less accessible to criminals by, for example, raising their purchase prices. However, the anticipation of higher prices may encourage gun manufacturers to boost production just before the ban takes effect in the hope of generating large profits from the soon-to be collectors’ items. Immediately after the ban, criminals may find it difficult to purchase banned weapons if they remain in dealers’ and speculators’ storage facilities. Over the long term, however, the stockpiled weapons might begin flowing into criminals’ hands, through straw purchases, thefts, or “off-the-books” sales that dealers or speculators falsely report to insurance companies and government officials as thefts.

https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/173405.pdf

Saying something was effective isn't a suggestion. Saying it without supporting evidence is just talking to be talking. Perhaps you're relying on Biden's comments to be factual.

[spurraider21]

Btw what male calls another male "honey"? Fucking weirdo.
Making a lot of assumptions there

[spurraider21]

The gun isn’t a clunker. I’m just looking at clash for clinkers as a model for a buyback program. Yea there are way too many guns in circulation. Make buybacks much more incentivized.

Im not banning the sale of an illegal item. Somebody bought a gun legally. It’s registered to them. That person cannot make a private sale of that legally owned gun anymore based on what i propose. If that guy wants to get rid of his gun, it goes to a state/federal buyback. Otherwise he has to keep renewing his licensing for it.

i specifically went beyond criminal background checks. I said you need licensing which would also require regular psychological screening

[SnakeBoy]

- heavily incentivized buyback programs, state or national level. cash for clunkers as something of a model for it. biggest issue is the amount of guns in circulation. cut back at that. government preferably scraps them
- buying them back is great, but keeping the number in circulation low is good too. manufacturing/import limits.
- make it harder to buy them. require licensing for them which include regular (annual, every two years, i dno) psychological screening and/or needing to renew said license. license would require training for that type of weapon. handgun, rifle, etc. just like we have classes of drivers licenses for different vehicles
- ban private sales altogether with the exception of antique/legacy weapons. if you want to sell a gun, it goes to a state/federal buyback. like i said, buybacks should be heavily incentivized, possibly even at or above market value. probably have a check for people gaming the system by limiting amount of guns a person can purchase in a given period of time
- more comprehensive background checks. mandatory waiting periods.
- capacity limits on all sorts of weapons
- assault weapons ban from the 90s was generally effective as well


a few of the top of my head that i've mentioned on this site at one time or another. people more knowledgeable than me would do a better job putting it into actual legislative language

Shall.Not.Be.Infringed.

[ChumpDumper]

Shall.Not.Be.Infringed.It's infringed all the time.

[spurraider21]

Shall.Not.Be.Infringed.
What well regulated militia do you belong to

[Blake]

Snake has a timer set to post that once every 24 hours in a shooting death thread

[Dick Jones]

Snake has a timer set to post that once every 24 hours in a shooting death thread
It’s telling that eventually they all lose any semblance of a reasonable argument, and just resort to stealing Thread’s schtick. Every last one of them.

[DMC]

The gun isn’t a clunker. I’m just looking at clash for clinkers as a model for a buyback program. Yea there are way too many guns in circulation. Make buybacks much more incentivized.

Im not banning the sale of an illegal item. Somebody bought a gun legally. It’s registered to them. That person cannot make a private sale of that legally owned gun anymore based on what i propose. If that guy wants to get rid of his gun, it goes to a state/federal buyback. Otherwise he has to keep renewing his licensing for it.

i specifically went beyond criminal background checks. I said you need licensing which would also require regular psychological screening

Guns aren't registered to anyone in most states. That's the point.

You cannot regulate who owns a firearm if you don't have a registry. You can only confiscate as you catch people with guns. This type of approach would take 30 years to see even a dent in the total guns in circulation, and would really do not much to keep guns out of the hands of people who haven't committed the crime yet.

I know you want to do something, but that something needs to be feasible and matter. Otherwise it's placebo legislation, and the outcome of proposing it would be to have even more guns sold in the interim. If it passes, it doesn't change much. If it fails, well.

[DMC]

What well regulated militia do you belong to

2A doesn't make a militia a requirement. It only states the right that already exists shall not be infringed upon. The militia red herring gets brought up a lot.

[ChumpDumper]

Make a registry.

[spurraider21]

Make a registry.
Mind blown

[spurraider21]

Guns aren't registered to anyone in most states. That's the point.

You cannot regulate who owns a firearm if you don't have a registry. You can only confiscate as you catch people with guns. This type of approach would take 30 years to see even a dent in the total guns in circulation, and would really do not much to keep guns out of the hands of people who haven't committed the crime yet.

I know you want to do something, but that something needs to be feasible and matter. Otherwise it's placebo legislation, and the outcome of proposing it would be to have even more guns sold in the interim. If it passes, it doesn't change much. If it fails, well.
Compel registration.

All the good guy with guns, being that they are good, will follow the law and register them. I’ve been told a vast majority of gun owners are law abiding good guys so that will already get a vast majority accounted for. Good starting point

anybody who doesn’t get registered within some safe harbor period of time will be a criminal aka a bad guy with guns

[spurraider21]

2A doesn't make a militia a requirement. It only states the right that already exists shall not be infringed upon. The militia red herring gets brought up a lot.
“Shall not be infringed” gets brought up a lot but literally everybody outside of koriwhat admits that some level of infringement is allowed

[Thread]

Originally Posted by Thread (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10748328#post10748328)

He Black.

[koriwhat]

Making a lot of assumptions there

Whatever you say twink.

[SnakeBoy]

Im not banning the sale of an illegal item.

I am banning index fingers. More effective than your rules and just as likely to happen. I think I'm going to phase it in. Adults will be grandfathered to keep their index fingers, teens to age 21 will just have the tip removed at the first knuckle, under 12 lose half, only newborns will have their entire index fingers removed.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Trumptards pretending they aren't affected but posting their asses off in these threads.

[DMC]

“Shall not be infringed” gets brought up a lot but literally everybody outside of koriwhat admits that some level of infringement is allowed

So that's the hill you want to die on, forcing Koriwhat to admit there should be some restrictions? :lol

[DMC]

Compel registration.

All the good guy with guns, being that they are good, will follow the law and register them. I’ve been told a vast majority of gun owners are law abiding good guys so that will already get a vast majority accounted for. Good starting point

anybody who doesn’t get registered within some safe harbor period of time will be a criminal aka a bad guy with guns

I'm all for that. You do away with FOPA and suddenly automatics are back on the table. Get after it. Hell, every agency in the US has my background and fingerprint data already. Wouldn't bother me.
But for some reason you seem to not get the concept of a firearm being untraceable. You cannot know who has a gun and who does not, because they are not registered. You haven't even touched how you'd enforce this. I mean, you can stick by your non sequiturs about good guys and laws all you like, since you likely consider laws to be good.

[Thread]

:lol Trumptards pretending they aren't affected but posting their asses off in these threads.

Only to denote B&W.
tee, hee.

[spurraider21]

I am banning index fingers. More effective than your rules and just as likely to happen. I think I'm going to phase it in. Adults will be grandfathered to keep their index fingers, teens to age 21 will just have the tip removed at the first knuckle, under 12 lose half, only newborns will have their entire index fingers removed.
we have seen bans of weapons enacted and enforced in other countries. we have not seen index finger bans implemented. we have seen gun measures work in other countries. i'd rather go with the model of what has been proven to work, but you go on your index finger ban crusade

[spurraider21]

So that's the hill you want to die on, forcing Koriwhat to admit there should be some restrictions? :lol
thats just the low hanging fruit. ive already set forth some possible measures that could or should be implemented

[spurraider21]

I'm all for that. You do away with FOPA and suddenly automatics are back on the table. Get after it. Hell, every agency in the US has my background and fingerprint data already. Wouldn't bother me.
But for some reason you seem to not get the concept of a firearm being untraceable. You cannot know who has a gun and who does not, because they are not registered. You haven't even touched how you'd enforce this. I mean, you can stick by your non sequiturs about good guys and laws all you like, since you likely consider laws to be good.
never said anything about automatics being on the table.

you compel registration. make it a law that everyone has to register weapons they own. will everybody do it? no, of course not. i imagine many will. get as many weapons registered as you can and go from there.

[DMC]

never said anything about automatics being on the table.

you compel registration. make it a law that everyone has to register weapons they own. will everybody do it? no, of course not. i imagine many will. get as many weapons registered as you can and go from there.

FOPA prohibits creating a federal database on firearms and owners.

[ChumpDumper]

Repeal it.

Easy peasy.

Get to it.

[koriwhat]

thats just the low hanging fruit. ive already set forth some possible measures that could or should be implemented

Want to see some low hanging fruit examples rn? Can a man be a woman or a woman be a man? Answer the question bro.

[spurraider21]

Want to see some low hanging fruit examples rn? Can a man be a woman or a woman be a man? Answer the question bro.
you are the low hanging fruit. in a couple of different ways.

now go angrily flail some more

[Blake]

I'm all for that. You do away with FOPA and suddenly automatics are back on the table. Get after it. Hell, every agency in the US has my background and fingerprint data already. Wouldn't bother me.
But for some reason you seem to not get the concept of a firearm being untraceable. You cannot know who has a gun and who does not, because they are not registered. You haven't even touched how you'd enforce this. I mean, you can stick by your non sequiturs about good guys and laws all you like, since you likely consider laws to be good.

Lol "automatics are back on the table"

Will bazookas be on the table too?

[koriwhat]

you are the low hanging fruit. in a couple of different ways.

now go angrily flail some more

So you won't answer the question... :lmao

[DMC]

The Act also forbade the U.S. Government agency from keeping a registry directly linking non-National Firearms Act firearms to their owners, the specific language of this law (Federal Law 18 U.S.C. 926) being:

No such rule or regulation prescribed [by the Attorney General] after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or disposition be established. Nothing in this section expands or restricts the Secretary's authority to inquire into the disposition of any firearm in the course of a criminal investigation.

Nevertheless, at one point the ATF's National Tracing Center (NTC) contained hundreds of millions of firearm tracing and registration records, and consisted of several databases; but as of May 2016, many of these databases have been deleted to fall inline with record deletion requirements, per the Government Accountability Office (GAO).[17]

1. Multiple Sale Reports. In accordance with the Gun Control Act of 1968, Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs) are required to report the sale of multiple handguns to the same person within 24 hours or within five consecutive business days,[18] a program overseen by the ATF and reported through ATF Form 3310.4, which requires disclosure of the firearms sold and new owner and address. The program is used by the ATF to detect, investigate and prevent firearms trafficking. Reported as 4.2 million records in 2010.[19]
2. Suspect Guns. All guns suspected of being used for criminal purposes and that "may or may not be in the possession of an LEA (law enforcement agency)."[20] This database includes (ATF's own examples[citation needed]), individuals purchasing large quantities of firearms, and dealers with improper record keeping. May include guns observed by law enforcement in an estate, or at a gun show, or elsewhere.[citation needed] Reported as 34,807 in 2010.[19]
3. Traced Guns. Over 4 million detail records from all traces since inception.[19] This is a registration record which includes the personal information of the first retail purchaser, along with the identity of the selling dealer.
4. Out of Business Records. Data is manually collected from paper out of business records (or input from computer records) and entered into the trace system by ATF. These are registration records which include name and address, make, model, serial and caliber of the firearm(s), as well as data from the 4473 form - in digital or image format. In March, 2010, ATF reported receiving several hundred million records since 1968.[21]
5. Theft Guns. Firearms reported as stolen to ATF. Contained 330,000 records in 2010.[19] Contains only thefts from licensed dealers and interstate carriers (optional).[19] Does not have an interface to the FBI's National Crime Information Center (NCIC) theft data base, where the majority of stolen, lost and missing firearms are reported.

[koriwhat]

Come on SR21 answer that simple question.

[ChumpDumper]

Want to see some low hanging fruit examples rn? Can a man be a woman or a woman be a man? Answer the question bro.

Way to deflect :tu

:lmao Joey

[DMC]

Lol "automatics are back on the table"

Will bazookas be on the table too?

Grenades and rocket launchers, also known as bazookas, are considered "destructive devices" by the National Firearms Act. They are also classified as firearms and are therefore legal with proper registration.

:lol Low information poster strikes out again

[koriwhat]

Chump you're worthless.

[koriwhat]

:lol Low information poster strikes out again

They call everyone else low info but they're all the same losers who bought into RussiaGate and Jussie's lynching, et al. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

So bazookas need to be registered but registration for firearms is an impossibility.:lol

DMC's hands will shake posting his next fail.

[DMC]

Chump you're worthless.

Call the law offices of Shaky and Blakey, wannabe attorney and her sidekick.

[Spurminator]

FOPA prohibits creating a federal database on firearms and owners.

Well shit, we can't do anything about acts, so I guess we're out of options.

:lol Fuck your FOPA and your toys.

[Spurminator]

How gun nerds think they sound online.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41dQkTVRLQL._AC_.jpg

How they actually sound.

https://assets-varnish.triblive.com/2020/01/2222917_web1_VND-TrainGuy1-013020.jpg

[DMC]

Well shit, we can't do anything about acts, so I guess we're out of options.

:lol Fuck your FOPA and your toys.

You certainly can repeal it. In the process you will be repealing the ban on the manufacture and sale of automatic firearms. Knock yourself out, miss.

You and a few others here are unwittingly being educated on existing gun laws. You can thank me later.

[ChumpDumper]

DMC shaking as he realizes parts of acts can be repealed.

[DMC]

:lol I can see these soft ass dudes getting into a conversation about guns with their ignorant shemale friends

Mr Karen: "next thing you know they'll want machine guns!"

Recently schooled gender fluid ST'er: "Well actually they can already own these, all they need is a 200 tax stamp and a signoff"

Mr Karen: "wow really? I did not know that. You're really up on this stuff"

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

We've all seen your soft, shaky hands.

[Spurminator]

You certainly can repeal it. In the process you will be repealing the ban on the manufacture and sale of automatic firearms. Knock yourself out, miss.

You and a few others here are unwittingly being educated on existing gun laws. You can thank me later.

Sounds like you need more education on legislative procedure, but I don't have that kind of free time.

[spurraider21]

Can repeal parts of an act. More of DMC’s all or nothing false dichotomy

[spurraider21]

Want to see some low hanging fruit examples rn? Can a man be a woman or a woman be a man? Answer the question bro.
A male is a male and a female is a female. Males can identity as a woman as their gender and vice versa

[DMC]

Sounds like you need more education on legislative procedure, but I don't have that kind of free time.

Why don't you get it done and then I can read about it online.

[DMC]

Can repeal parts of an act. More of DMC’s all or nothing false dichotomy

So do it. Should we start a countdown to repeal thread?

[spurraider21]

So do it. Should we start a countdown to repeal thread?
You still think the purpose of the spurstalk political forum is to drive legislation? Weird take tbh

[DMC]

You still think the purpose of the spurstalk political forum is to drive legislation? Weird take tbh

Do you think the powers that be on the left want to repeal FOPA?

By the way, this is you saying you have no power to effect change, but you trust someone will. I guess then your idea is indeed functionally equivalent to thoughts and prayers from the right.

[SnakeBoy]

You still think the purpose of the spurstalk political forum is to drive legislation? Weird take tbh

You seem to think it's purpose is to fantasize about what you would do if you were king.

No No hear me out, this is what I will allow and not allow to happen in the world, now debate me

You don't seem to think it's purpose is to discuss how badly the Democrats who actually have power are failing

[ChumpDumper]

:lol failed Snacks upset about Dems unable to overcome his failures.

[ElNono]

:lol I can see these soft ass dudes getting into a conversation about guns with their ignorant shemale friends

Mr Karen: "next thing you know they'll want machine guns!"

Recently schooled gender fluid ST'er: "Well actually they can already own these, all they need is a 200 tax stamp and a signoff"

Mr Karen: "wow really? I did not know that. You're really up on this stuff"

:lol

That sounds like a conversation you would overhear in Alabama, tbh

[Ef-man]

We've all seen your soft, shaky hands.

It is true that Chuncko has had an impact on the firearms industry.

The handgun in the bottom was the original design but Chuncko made the manufacturer expand the trigger guard so he could fire it.

https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/ItemImages/000484/20090258_1_lg.jpeg

[Thread]

Originally Posted by Thread (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10748328#post10748328)

He Black.

[Spurminator]

Why don't you get it done and then I can read about it online.

It's okay to just admit you were wrong about the implications of repealing the registry part of the FOPA.

[Spurminator]

The ST gun nuts reeeeally want to validate their gun love and 2nd Amendment absolutism on logical or moral grounds, but they never fail to always get backed into a corner where all they're left with is "your gun control ideas haven't been implemented though lol."

[Thread]

The ST gun nuts reeeeally want to validate their gun love and 2nd Amendment absolutism on logical or moral grounds, but they never fail to always get backed into a corner where all they're left with is "your gun control ideas haven't been implemented though lol."

...I just start there, Spurm.

[DMC]

The ST gun nuts reeeeally want to validate their gun love and 2nd Amendment absolutism on logical or moral grounds, but they never fail to always get backed into a corner where all they're left with is "your gun control ideas haven't been implemented though lol."

If you need a solution and you cannot get anything done, you will eventually need to look in areas you haven't looked. But you won't. Your kind will rest on your laurels and wave your "I'm such a good person" flag and fellate each other until it happens again, at which time you begin again. A fresh opportunity to build new flags.

[DMC]

It's okay to just admit you were wrong about the implications of repealing the registry part of the FOPA.

You said fuck the FOPA, not parts of it. Don't try to hide behind your premature victory dance.

[DMC]

You seem to think it's purpose is to fantasize about what you would do if you were king.

No No hear me out, this is what I will allow and not allow to happen in the world, now debate me

You don't seem to think it's purpose is to discuss how badly the Democrats who actually have power are failing

Debate me, but don't expect me to learn anything about what I'm proposing, and I have sarcasm and satire locked and loaded in case you point out issues with my decrees. I shall make my own reality by fiat.

[spurraider21]

Debate me, but don't expect me to learn anything about what I'm proposing, and I have sarcasm and satire locked and loaded in case you point out issues with my decrees. I shall make my own reality by fiat.
But if you ever say clip instead of magazine it’s an instant disqualification

[DMC]

Debate me, but don't expect me to learn anything about what I'm proposing, and I have sarcasm and satire locked and loaded in case you point out issues with my decrees. I shall make my own reality by fiat.


But if you ever say clip instead of magazine it’s an instant disqualification

Just like that

[pgardn]

DMC is calling people soft ass and he is afraid to step in a bay...
Got a gun to shoot a sting ray...

You calling anyone soft ass is a joke.

[DMC]

DMC is calling people soft ass and he is afraid to step in a bay...
Got a gun to shoot a sting ray...

You calling anyone soft ass is a joke.

You're out of ammo. For a week you've been creating your own truths and running with it via lies to yourself and the forum. It must suck to not have the wherewithal to say anything meaningful, ever.

[ElNono]

But if you ever say clip instead of magazine it’s an instant disqualification


Just like that

Do you mean you were sarcastic when you made that correction?

[Thread]

Originally Posted by Thread (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10748328#post10748328)

He Black.

[Blake]

:lol I can see these soft ass dudes getting into a conversation about guns with their ignorant shemale friends

Mr Karen: "next thing you know they'll want machine guns!"

Recently schooled gender fluid ST'er: "Well actually they can already own these, all they need is a 200 tax stamp and a signoff"

Mr Karen: "wow really? I did not know that. You're really up on this stuff"

:lol

DMC in narrative mode sounding like Avante

[Chucho]

New law: Shooters must wait at least 5 days after gun acquisition before launching into a mass shooting spree. That seems to be the issue at hand, doing this the same day of the attack, or right on your birthday.

He tries so hard.

Everyone tries to clap your cheeks because it's easy to get a rise out of you. He's the same, except his cheeks seem to get clapped when you talk about his ST fwiends and ideology and dont mention him.

Dude is the voluntary load wiper for people he solicits ST fwiendship from but pay him no attention. He took the auto-bot taint sniffing position from the former GOAT taint sniffer.

[koriwhat]

A male is a male and a female is a female. Males can identity as a woman as their gender and vice versa

:lmao Sure thing Mother Goose :tu

[spurraider21]

He tries so hard.

Everyone tries to clap your cheeks because it's easy to get a rise out of you. He's the same, except his cheeks seem to get clapped when you talk about his ST fwiends and ideology and dont mention him.

Dude is the voluntary load wiper for people he solicits ST fwiendship from but pay him no attention. He took the auto-bot taint sniffing position from the former GOAT taint sniffer.
And on queue chucho appears to coddle dmc

[CosmicCowboy]

A male is a male and a female is a female. Males can identity as a woman as their gender and vice versa

https://scontent-hou1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/281861919_2418594684948943_7732407577722328492_n.j pg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=t3yHl8Rkm2cAX8C-n88&tn=UkCOtPm3KS4JRJJN&_nc_ht=scontent-hou1-1.xx&oh=00_AT-s-8keQ5PqiduqkVU0NnkSX_vWzwnS2pDexfe4AgJcEg&oe=62A45D22

[spurraider21]

https://scontent-hou1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/281861919_2418594684948943_7732407577722328492_n.j pg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=t3yHl8Rkm2cAX8C-n88&tn=UkCOtPm3KS4JRJJN&_nc_ht=scontent-hou1-1.xx&oh=00_AT-s-8keQ5PqiduqkVU0NnkSX_vWzwnS2pDexfe4AgJcEg&oe=62A45D22
even assuming that is the case, the post you responded to didnt reference any additional genders. so you just found a dumb meme on facebook and wanted to share it

[Ef-man]

The ST gun nuts reeeeally want to validate their gun love and 2nd Amendment absolutism on logical or moral grounds, but they never fail to always get backed into a corner where all they're left with is "your gun control ideas haven't been implemented though lol."

You called it!

[Thread]

Bottom line, TC; He Black.