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Bloodline666
11-29-2005, 06:45 PM
Looks like we're sadly mistaken.

Source: Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,177021,00.html)

Looks like a Senator is getting involved, and is claiming that the suspension violates antitrust laws...oh boy.
Vashner
11-29-2005, 06:54 PM
Freedom is a double edged sword. People can get jobs.. and owners should be able to fire.. At will.

It's the same as being able to get up and say I quit. Or to start a business and fire a slacker.
Hook Dem
11-29-2005, 07:09 PM
Spector has no business intervening here. The suspension was handed out for punishment and then his pay was reinstated after the suspension. They don't have to play him. What the hell is he intervening for? Maybe because "his team" is suffering? Bullshit !!!!
Oh, Gee!!
11-29-2005, 07:15 PM
Freedom is a double edged sword. People can get jobs.. and owners should be able to fire.. At will.

It's the same as being able to get up and say I quit. Or to start a business and fire a slacker.


but you can get job at any burger joint or gas station, TO can only play in one NFL.
Johnny_Blaze_47
11-29-2005, 07:18 PM
but you can get job at any burger joint or gas station, TO can only play in one NFL.

Actually, TO can get a job in any football league.
Oh, Gee!!
11-29-2005, 07:24 PM
Actually, TO can get a job in any football league.


and get paid a tenth of his worth?
Hook Dem
11-29-2005, 07:34 PM
but you can get job at any burger joint or gas station, TO can only play in one NFL.
He can flip burgers or pump gas for all I care. He's his own worst enemy!
Johnny_Blaze_47
11-29-2005, 08:16 PM
and get paid a tenth of his worth?

If a burger joint really wanted a specific person, say somebody who had stupid ability to make burgers, they could pay what they think he/she is worth.

T.O. doesn't have a fundamental right to play football in the NFL or anywhere else. Nobody does.

There are simply more important things that a congressman can do right now than worry about T.O.
Oh, Gee!!
11-29-2005, 08:22 PM
If a burger joint really wanted a specific person, say somebody who had stupid ability to make burgers, they could pay what they think he/she is worth.

T.O. doesn't have a fundamental right to play football in the NFL or anywhere else. Nobody does.

There are simply more important things that a congressman can do right now than worry about T.O.


we don't have a fundamental right to pursue a profession? sounds like communism to me.
Oh, Gee!!
11-29-2005, 08:27 PM
hahahahahahaha

he should be guaranteed recompense for his own worth (i.e. what everybody else is getting in his unique profession)?
sounds like Socialism to me


no, but the Iggles shouldn't block him from signing with another team this year. I'm sure there are a few teams that would take him today.

When Vashner gets fired from McDonald's, they don't prevent him from working for Burger King.
Johnny_Blaze_47
11-29-2005, 09:48 PM
we don't have a fundamental right to pursue a profession? sounds like communism to me.

T.O. has fulfilled his right to pursue his chosen profession.

He's a football player for the Philadelphia Eagles of the National Football League. He's got a contract, doesn't he?

Just because he chose to violate the terms of his contract and the Eagles chose to punish him based on the violations of the terms of that contract does not mean the Eagles have taken away his "right" to play.
Guru of Nothing
11-29-2005, 11:33 PM
Apparently, Specter is a Steeler fan.
Vashner
11-30-2005, 12:51 AM
TO's getting paid anyway!... let's all cry.. while he is in a 5 star resort in bahamas eating lobster and 500 dollar wine....
Murphy
11-30-2005, 09:34 AM
can anyone say... BIG GOVERNMENT!!!!! Ahhh fucking spector, leave the NFL alone
slayermin
12-01-2005, 05:08 AM
Did anyone catch Bernard Hopkins on Rome yesterday morning? Apparently, he is boys with T.O. He said Donovan McNabb's heart is the size of a mustard seed. :lol

I am on T.O.'s side. Everyone keeps talking about his 42 million dollar deal. But from my understanding, only $3.5 million was guaranteed after everything is said and done. If I'm wrong, please correct me.

Anyway, Rome is going to reset everything on his show Thursday morning. Try to catch it if you can because Hopkins was basically calling McNabb a house-(you know what.)
exstatic
12-01-2005, 08:13 AM
I am on T.O.'s side. Everyone keeps talking about his 42 million dollar deal. But from my understanding, only $3.5 million was guaranteed after everything is said and done. If I'm wrong, please correct me.

That's life in the NFL, and a standard contract. The NFL is nothing like MLB or the NBA. You only get paid for performing and that's everyone, not just TO. Your guaranteed money is in the upfront bonuses, which TO did receive. He was, in fact, performing, and would have gotten his roster bonus in March.

That's all academic, though. He did not want more of the money guaranteed. He flat wanted more money, ONE FUCKING YEAR AFTER HE SIGNED A 5 YEAR DEAL.
Johnny_Blaze_47
12-01-2005, 09:11 AM
You know, though, I'm more lenient with NFL players going after more dough when they can.

Granted, they sign the deals and all, but they're also in the position that since the money isn't guaranteed, they can be cut at anytime for essentially any reason just because a team might be over the cap and the money would flat stop.
ShoogarBear
12-01-2005, 08:01 PM
i agree that NFL players are sacrificing the most and probably make the least, relative to what they are risking and what they bring in, of any sport.

I'd gladly take a guaranteed $200,000 to sit at the end of a bench for a baseball or basketball team.

You couldn't pay me an unguaranteed $1,000,000 to ride the bench for an NFL team.

TO is still a tool, though.
slayermin
12-01-2005, 08:02 PM
You know, though, I'm more lenient with NFL players going after more dough when they can.

Granted, they sign the deals and all, but they're also in the position that since the money isn't guaranteed, they can be cut at anytime for essentially any reason just because a team might be over the cap and the money would flat stop.

And how about all these guys that have been out of the game for a while now and most, if not all, have chronic back, knee, and other lingering aches and pains that will probably never go away. You can't put a price on quality of life. NFL players have to get as much as they can, as soon as they can because an average career is like 4 years, I think.

The NFL makes more money than any other sport. I don't know why their players are not compensated in the same manner as the NBA and the MLB. Seems greedy to me since the guys in the NFL put their bodies, and sometimes, their lives on the line, every Sunday.
ShoogarBear
12-01-2005, 08:13 PM
From an ownership standpoint, NFL rosters are much bigger than NBA or MLB.

If they paid those guys guaranteed contracts proportional to the other leagues and their career span, the NFL would be much less profitable, and some team would undoubtedly lose money. One could make the case that average starting running back salary should be around $10 million.
ShoogarBear
12-01-2005, 09:28 PM
I've seen a few ex-players. By the time they're in their 50s, a lot of them can't walk right.
Oh, Gee!!
12-02-2005, 03:18 PM
T.O. has fulfilled his right to pursue his chosen profession.

It's a not a "one-shot" deal.



He's a football player for the Philadelphia Eagles of the National Football League. He's got a contract, doesn't he?

Just because he chose to violate the terms of his contract and the Eagles chose to punish him based on the violations of the terms of that contract does not mean the Eagles have taken away his "right" to play.

Yes they have by blocking him from signing with another team.