Political Movie Review - What is a Woman?

[Blake]

The rainbow comment sent some over the edge.

Lol the rubber glue nuh uh U the one dets triggered bads

[DMC]

My 89,000 posts comment obviously sent you over the edge.


wHerEs mUh strAighT gUy pAraDe


Lol the rubber glue nuh uh U the one dets triggered bads

Triggered :lol

[Blake]

Lol the rubber glue nuh uh U the one dets triggered bads


Triggered :lol

[ElNono]

Ok. So what makes these folks feel so unsafe?

You'll have to ask them. Just don't forget who's supposedly the fruity one, and who's the real macho here.

[Blake]

Do any of you faggots feel unsafe on spurstalk?

CC part of the welcome committee

[DMC]

You'll have to ask them. Just don't forget who's supposedly the fruity one, and who's the real macho here.

Just found the "self victimization" comment to be presumptive, odd you decline to presume what makes these people feel unsafe.

[koriwhat]

Ladies, ladies, calm down now and be proper lads! That goes for you too BlaKKKe who is in a category of is/er's own.

[monosylab1k]

I broke him :lol

[koriwhat]

I broke him :lol

The only thing you've broken is 300+ lbs.

[daboom1]

post count smack :lol

[Winehole23]

You think being concerned about your children is moral panic? :lolAs manifested, yes.

Teachers aren't sexually grooming children by having them read books or respecting their pronouns. That's preposterous.

[koriwhat]

As manifested, yes.

Teachers aren't sexually grooming children by having them read books or respecting their pronouns. That's preposterous.

To a groomer, yes. Ok gro.... :tu

[DMC]

To require elementary schools and secondary schools that
receive Federal funds to obtain parental consent before
facilitating a child’s gender transition in any form, and
for other purposes.

No grooming without parental consent :tu


there's the moral panic and hysteria I was just talking about


You think being concerned about your children is moral panic? :lol


As manifested, yes.

Teachers aren't sexually grooming children by having them read books or respecting their pronouns. That's preposterous.

Try to keep up with shit you actually said.

[DMC]

I broke him :lol

Talking about your chair?

[Winehole23]

Try to keep up with shit you actually said.I did, you're just not very smart.

[ElNono]

Just found the "self victimization" comment to be presumptive, odd you decline to presume what makes these people feel unsafe.

Because it's not what we're discussing. Why would it matter when we're discussing the self-victimization of the person pointing fingers?

But if you must know, the actual hate and the ensuing harassment against fruity folks (online and in IRL as well) is certainly well documented.

How would you describe the allegation of being a 'victim' of rainbow icons on social media, especially coming from alleged, self-proclaimed alpha males?

[ElNono]

beep boop :lol

[Winehole23]

Because it's not what we're discussing. Why would it matter when we're discussing the self-victimization of the person pointing fingers?

But if you must know, the actual hate and the ensuing harassment against fruity folks (online and in IRL as well) is certainly well documented.

How would you describe the allegation of being a 'victim' of rainbow icons on social media, especially coming from alleged, self-proclaimed alpha males?"the mere existence of pride flags diminishes my masculinity. it's oppression!"

[Winehole23]

"How can we be proper men if we can't pick on queers without adverse social consequences?"

[Winehole23]

"They took away our rights!"

[ElNono]

"the mere existence of pride flags diminishes my masculinity. it's oppression!"

"masculinity ended with rainbows and unicorns!!!11!1"

[Spurminator]

Keep in mind this is a group of people who think it's oppression if they're not allowed to force everyone to pray with them.

[CosmicCowboy]

It still seems a little weird to be super proud of sucking dick and getting fucked in the ass.

[Blake]

It still seems a little weird to be super proud of sucking dick and getting fucked in the ass.

Why do you still post like you're in 1960

[ChumpDumper]

It still seems a little weird to be super proud of sucking dick and getting fucked in the ass.

Weirder to feel threatened by these people.

[CosmicCowboy]

Weirder to feel threatened by these people.

I dont feel threatened at all. It just seems so weird to be so vocally proud of sucking dick. You normally don't see hetero guys making a big deal of preferring the opposite sex.

[CosmicCowboy]

Why do you still post like you're in 1960

Blake, I'm perfectly fine with you sucking dick.

[Winehole23]

I dont feel threatened at all. It just seems so weird to be so vocally proud of sucking dick. You normally don't see hetero guys making a big deal of preferring the opposite sex.


Blake, I'm perfectly fine with you sucking dick.strange claim to make in this thread. gay baiting Blake with your very next breath undermines it somewhat.

[ChumpDumper]

I dont feel threatened at all. It just seems so weird to be so vocally proud of sucking dick. You normally don't see hetero guys making a big deal of preferring the opposite sex.I see it all the time.

i mean really all the time.

[ChumpDumper]

strange claim to make in this thread. gay baiting Blake with your very next breath undermines it somewhat.Kinda making a big deal of it, isn't he?

[Winehole23]

Kinda making a big deal of it, isn't he?in b4 "I was just joking, where's your sense of humor?"

[Blake]

I dont feel threatened at all. It just seems so weird to be so vocally proud of sucking dick. You normally don't see hetero guys making a big deal of preferring the opposite sex.

Yet here you are

[CosmicCowboy]

in b4 "I was just joking, where's your sense of humor?"

I wasn't joking. I have no problem with Blake sucking dick.

[Blake]

I wasn't joking. I have no problem with Blake sucking dick.

You have a problem with gays. You just called them weird.

Seriously, it's like you're in 1960. If you want to say as late as 1980 I'll accept that too.

[CosmicCowboy]

You have a problem with gays. You just called them weird.

Seriously, it's like you're in 1960. If you want to say as late as 1980 I'll accept that too.

I really dont have a problem with gays but unlike you, I dont understand the desire to suck dick. Just seems a little weird but whatever turns you on.

[CosmicCowboy]

If being "stuck in the sixties" means not being like Blake I am perfectly fine with that. :lol

[Winehole23]

^^^ wasn't teasing, the gay baiting was sincere, CC keeps underscoring it.

[Blake]

If being "stuck in the sixties" means not being like Blake I am perfectly fine with that. :lol

Of course you are. You're not gay or black.

[CosmicCowboy]

Of course you are. You're not gay or black.

Whats wrong with being gay or black?

[daboom1]

Blake, I'm perfectly fine with you sucking dick.

:lol

[Winehole23]

CC's conceit that he's speaking in the spirit of tolerance and inclusion wrt dick-sucking somehow seems not totally sincere.

[Blake]

Whats wrong with being gay or black?


It still seems a little weird to be super proud of sucking dick and getting fucked in the ass.

[Blake]

CC's conceit that he's speaking in the spirit of tolerance and inclusion wrt dick-sucking somehow seems not totally sincere.

wHats wrOng wiTh u BeiNg CocK suCking FaGGot, FaggOt? U iNtoLerAnt?

[CosmicCowboy]

CC's conceit that he's speaking in the spirit of tolerance and inclusion wrt dick-sucking somehow seems not totally sincere.

Saying I dont understand Blakes desire to suck dick is not the same as saying there is something wrong with it. Im even fine with Blake marrying the guy. He might have better luck this time :lol

[Blake]

Saying I dont understand Blakes desire to suck dick is not the same as saying there is something wrong with it. Im even fine with Blake marrying the guy. He might have better luck this time :lol

:lol who are you trying to fool? Yourself?

[Winehole23]

Saying I dont understand Blakes desire to suck dick is not the same as saying there is something wrong with it. Im even fine with Blake marrying the guy. He might have better luck this time :lolyou're doing great, keep digging!

[monosylab1k]

CC thinks he’s totally owning this exchange :lol

[Thread]

CC thinks he’s totally owning this exchange :lol

Bend over. I'll totally fuckin' be owning this exchange.

[DMC]

Because it's not what we're discussing. Why would it matter when we're discussing the self-victimization of the person pointing fingers?

But if you must know, the actual hate and the ensuing harassment against fruity folks (online and in IRL as well) is certainly well documented.

How would you describe the allegation of being a 'victim' of rainbow icons on social media, especially coming from alleged, self-proclaimed alpha males?

We were commenting on LGBTQMAPers feeling unsafe on social media. When someone commented that it's not like social media platforms don't cater to them, the response was "self-victimization!". When I asked why the LGBTQMAPers felt unsafe you say "you'd have to ask them". Number 1 move by the left here is assuming and commenting on what others think. When asked though, they decline to speculate :lol

[DMC]

Same group bitching about homoerotic comments "bend over" now bitching about not accepting homoerotic comments. :lol

[Blake]

..Number 1 move by the left here is assuming and commenting on what others think. When asked though, they decline to speculate :lol

Could this post be any richer

:lol

[Spurminator]

You normally don't see hetero guys making a big deal of preferring the opposite sex.

How have you managed to go the past 50+ years without TV, radio, or being around other heterosexual men in any social situation?

[SnakeBoy]

lol Libs pretending to be offended now

:cry muh moral preening :cry

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Snacks has no morals at all.

[DMC]

I see the MAP sympathizer is weighing in :lol

[ElNono]

It still seems a little weird to be super proud of sucking dick and getting fucked in the ass.

Why would you even care what two consenting adults want to do in the privacy of their homes? Do you feel the same about lesbos?

[ElNono]

I dont feel threatened at all. It just seems so weird to be so vocally proud of sucking dick. You normally don't see hetero guys making a big deal of preferring the opposite sex.

Hetero guys do brag about nailing det hawt chick all the time.

[ElNono]

I really dont have a problem with gays but unlike you, I dont understand the desire to suck dick. Just seems a little weird but whatever turns you on.

It's not my cup of tea and it's not your either... but they appear to enjoy it, so what's the big deal?

[ElNono]

We were commenting on LGBTQMAPers feeling unsafe on social media. When someone commented that it's not like social media platforms don't cater to them, the response was "self-victimization!". When I asked why the LGBTQMAPers felt unsafe you say "you'd have to ask them". Number 1 move by the left here is assuming and commenting on what others think. When asked though, they decline to speculate :lol

I didn't comment on anything prior to that response, which I found hilarious... that's why I didn't comment, since I wasn't part of that conversation at the time.

How would you describe the allegation of being a 'victim' of rainbow icons on social media, especially coming from alleged, self-proclaimed alpha males?

[DMC]

I didn't comment on anything prior to that response, which I found hilarious... that's why I didn't comment, since I wasn't part of that conversation at the time.

How would you describe the allegation of being a 'victim' of rainbow icons on social media, especially coming from alleged, self-proclaimed alpha males?

If you mean "drowning in rainbow icons", it's rhetorical. It just means they are everywhere, that the environment isn't anti-LGBTQ but quite the opposite, and the "we" part means social media users as a whole. It doesn't mean someone is being made a victim. It's like someone saying this forum is heavily moderated and someone else saying "lol no, we are drowning in unmoderated racist, sexist, homophobic and bigoted comments". Wouldn't mean the 2nd person feels they are being victimized by it.

Obviously is the others who feel victimized, thus the response about feeling unsafe.

[ElNono]

If you mean "drowning in rainbow icons", it's rhetorical. It just means they are everywhere, that the environment isn't anti-LGBTQ but quite the opposite, and the "we" part means social media users as a whole. It doesn't mean someone is being made a victim. It's like someone saying this forum is heavily moderated and someone else saying "lol no, we are drowning in unmoderated racist, sexist, homophobic and bigoted comments". Wouldn't mean the 2nd person feels they are being victimized by it.

Obviously is the others who feel victimized, thus the response about feeling unsafe.

This is what he wrote:


This is just more fake outrage - look at us, we are such victims, even though we are drowning in rainbow icons on social media displayed by virtually every company on the planet.

1) He clearly thinks they're self-victimizing, but then complains how 'we' are a victims of 'rainbow icons on social media'.
2) Calls other people's struggles 'fake outrage', get outraged by 'rainbow icons on social media'

I thought it was hilariously ironic.

About 8 years ago or so, I would've taken that post as tongue-in-cheek, but in this day and age is hard to tell anymore, tbh...

[Winehole23]

Same group bitching about homoerotic comments "bend over" now bitching about not accepting homoerotic comments. :lolJust pointing them out, nobody can stop CC from showing his whole ass every time.

Something similar is true of you, there's no question of approval or disapproval, we're all just along for the ride. Sorry if you find the feedback discouraging, sounds like a personal problem.

[Winehole23]

wHats wrOng wiTh u BeiNg CocK suCking FaGGot, FaggOt? U iNtoLerAnt?he went further. he recommended homosexuality.

"you might have better luck"

[Winehole23]

That was surely offered in the spirit of tolerance and inclusion too.

[HemisfairArena]

That was surely offered in the spirit of tolerance and inclusion too.

your democrat biden has America turning into a shithole and youre worried about inclusion,,,,:lmao. typical dumbass democrat,,,wake up, numbnuts. What good is inclusion if the country is 3rd world?

[ChumpDumper]

If you mean "drowning in rainbow icons", it's rhetorical. It just means they are everywhere, that the environment isn't anti-LGBTQ but quite the opposite, and the "we" part means social media users as a whole. It doesn't mean someone is being made a victim. It's like someone saying this forum is heavily moderated and someone else saying "lol no, we are drowning in unmoderated racist, sexist, homophobic and bigoted comments". Wouldn't mean the 2nd person feels they are being victimized by it.

Obviously is the others who feel victimized, thus the response about feeling unsafe.

Children aren't safe around you. Stop victimizing them.

[Winehole23]

CC thinks he’s totally owning this exchange :lolthe lack of self-awareness amuses, but it's also humanizing. he keeps digging into his shame.

[ElNono]

he went further. he recommended homosexuality.

"you might have better luck"

Maybe they were traumatized by My Little Pony at a young age... you never know...

You know who traumatized them? Old Joe beating the living shit out of Trump.

[Dirks_Finale]

This is what he wrote:



1) He clearly thinks they're self-victimizing, but then complains how 'we' are a victims of 'rainbow icons on social media'.
2) Calls other people's struggles 'fake outrage', get outraged by 'rainbow icons on social media'

I thought it was hilariously ironic.

About 8 years ago or so, I would've taken that post as tongue-in-cheek, but in this day and age is hard to tell anymore, tbh...

I am hardly outraged by the rainbow icons. :lol

I do recognize certain communities constantly being pandered to by corporate America, yet some within the community still having a tendency to play the victim.

And just as koriwhat has stated, I think many in the gay community don't fall into this category. They probably recognize all this for what it is, which is a bunch of companies virtue signaling in order to avoid the hard left mob's never ending bitching.

[ChumpDumper]

I am hardly outraged by the rainbow icons. :lol

I do recognize certain communities constantly being pandered to by corporate America, yet some within the community still having a tendency to play the victim.

And just as koriwhat has stated, I think many in the gay community don't fall into this category. They probably recognize all this for what it is, which is a bunch of companies virtue signaling in order to avoid the hard left mob's never ending bitching.

You will never stop bitching about this. You're the real victim here.

[monosylab1k]

You normally don't see hetero guys making a big deal of preferring the opposite sex.

Yeah def not


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2XdmyBtCRQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gRZrMcOKIc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCFAkD4EkYI

[Ef-man]

Could this post be any richer

:lol

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[monosylab1k]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYb84BDMbi0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTMVOzPPtiw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmSH7PZduYw

[monosylab1k]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oai1V7kaFBk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyDUC1LUXSU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FEDrU85FLE

[spurraider21]

WTF this thread is still going? I eventually got bored of this stupid topic.
Yeah i wonder what drives people to get mired up in obscure culture war issues that cause people like yourself to align with Matt walsh

[spurraider21]

I dont feel threatened at all. It just seems so weird to be so vocally proud of sucking dick. You normally don't see hetero guys making a big deal of preferring the opposite sex.
Yeah men literally never talk about hot women

[Blake]

Yeah men literally never talk about hot women

Or right wing politicians preaching how it's only supposed to be one man and one woman

[DMC]

Maybe they were traumatized by My Little Pony at a young age... you never know...

You know who traumatized them? Old Joe beating the living shit out of Trump.

Is that what you named it? :lol

[DMC]

Or right wing politicians preaching how it's only supposed to be one man and one woman

That's rich

[DMC]

MAP sympathizer quoted me. I guess MAP sympathizer knows who he is. :lol

[Blake]

That's rich

That's your team

[SnakeBoy]

Groomers gonna groom

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[spurraider21]

Groomers gonna groom

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crazy how she didnt mention surgery but RNC twitter throws that in there

[Winehole23]

crazy how she didnt mention surgery but RNC twitter throws that in therespreading fear and hysteria, using concern for kids as a fig leaf

[SnakeBoy]

crazy how she didnt mention surgery but RNC twitter throws that in there

The Asst Sec for Health is an obese man who thinks he is a woman.

[DMC]

That's your team

/self awareness

[spurraider21]

The Asst Sec for Health is an obese man who thinks he is a woman.
:tu based

[Spurminator]

:cry Oppressed by the existence of trannies. :cry

[Blake]

/self awareness

Says derp

[Winehole23]

:cry Oppressed by the existence of trannies. :cry

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FX7yiAsX0AExFA1?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Blake]

Lol

[ChumpDumper]

/self awareness

You're a pedo.

[ElNono]

Is that what you named it? :lol

That's how Hasbro named it

https://mylittlepony.hasbro.com/en-us

[ElNono]

1549079718246449152

Follow the science :tu

[ElNono]

I am hardly outraged by the rainbow icons. :lol

I do recognize certain communities constantly being pandered to by corporate America, yet some within the community still having a tendency to play the victim.

And just as koriwhat has stated, I think many in the gay community don't fall into this category. They probably recognize all this for what it is, which is a bunch of companies virtue signaling in order to avoid the hard left mob's never ending bitching.

It sounded like it... but if that was tongue-in-cheek, all good :tu

Like I said, hard to tell these days if the whining is real or fake...

[ElNono]

The Asst Sec for Health is an obese man who thinks he is a woman.

:tu

[DMC]

It sounded like it... but if that was tongue-in-cheek, all good :tu

Like I said, hard to tell these days if the whining is real or fake...

I'm glad I could mend fences here.

[DMC]

That's how Hasbro named it

https://mylittlepony.hasbro.com/en-us

Talking about your chilito.

[SnakeBoy]

LGBTQ Coalition ‘Gays Against Groomers' Vows To Fight Against Radical Activists
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/lgbtq-coalition-gays-against-groomers-vows-to-fight-against-radical-activists/ar-AAZ2Spw

GAYS AGAINST GROOMERS IS A COALITION OF GAY PEOPLE WHO OPPOSE THE RECENT TREND OF INDOCTRINATING AND SEXUALIZING CHILDREN UNDER THE GUISE OF “LGBTQIA+”.

Our community that once preached love and acceptance of others has been hijacked by radical activists who are now pushing extreme concepts onto society, specifically targeting children in recent years.

The overwhelming majority of gay people are against what the community has transformed into, and we do not accept the political movement pushing their agenda in our name.

Gays Against Groomers directly opposes the sexualization of children. This includes drag queen story hours, drag shows involving children, the transitioning and medicalization of minors, and gender theory being taught in the classroom.

The activists, backed by school boards, government, woke media, and corporations, have been speaking on our behalf for too long. When fighting for equality, our goal was to successfully integrate ourselves into society, but now these radicals aim to restructure it entirely in order to accommodate a fringe minority, as well as seek to indoctrinate children into their ideology.

We’re saying NO.

There are millions of gays within the community that want nothing to do with this Alphabet religion and join the fight with parents and concerned people everywhere to protect children. We also aim to return sanity and reclaim the community we once called our own.

The gay community is not a monolith. Those pushing this agenda do not represent or speak for us all, nor do we want to be associated with them in any way. What we are witnessing is mass scale child abuse being perpetrated on an entire generation, and we will no longer sit by and watch it happen.

It is going to take those of us from within the community to finally put an end to this insanity, and that's exactly what we're going to do.

[Blake]

I am hardly outraged by the rainbow icons. :lol

I do recognize certain communities constantly being pandered to by corporate America, yet some within the community still having a tendency to play the victim.

And just as koriwhat has stated, I think many in the gay community don't fall into this category. They probably recognize all this for what it is, which is a bunch of companies virtue signaling in order to avoid the hard left mob's never ending bitching.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/5857/production/_97751622_gettyimages-845437244.jpg

Which one is you?

[ElNono]

Talking about your chilito.

What's a 'chilito'? Is that mexican? Let me call LkrFan

[LkrFan]

What's a 'chilito'? Is that mexican? Let me call LkrFan (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18824)

It's short for chili cheese Frit:lols

[spurraider21]

I am hardly outraged by the rainbow icons. :lol

I do recognize certain communities constantly being pandered to by corporate America, yet some within the community still having a tendency to play the victim.
probably because some corporate conglomerate putting a rainbow in their twitter bio for a month doesnt really provide any material benefits to a group that doesnt feel like its being treated under the law and is treated as basically subhuman by a pretty large political faction

[Winehole23]

Why are they salivating?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYEMTi1UYAAlnbt?format=jpg&name=900x900

[DMC]

It's short for chili cheese Frit:lols

Category Spanish English
1 Slang chilito [m] MX little dick

[LkrFan]

Category Spanish English
1 Slang chilito [m] MX little dick
:lol

[Blake]

Why are they salivating?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYEMTi1UYAAlnbt?format=jpg&name=900x900

I mean it's like she's here reading this forum

[ElNono]

It's short for chili cheese Frit:lols

:lol damn, good to see you brah, thought they sent you in a bus to DC...

[LkrFan]

:lol damn, good to see you brah, thought they sent you in a bus to DC...
:rollin :lmao :rollin

[Winehole23]

klaxon sounded by the far right propagandist Chris Rufo

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYEUOqTXoAIPKUL?format=jpg&name=small

[SnakeBoy]

You may sometimes ask yourself, is it a lib or a pedo groomer? Try to remember that they are the same thing.

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[ChumpDumper]

You may sometimes ask yourself, is it a lib or a pedo groomer? Try to remember that they are the same thing.

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[DMC]

^Hasn't figured out what a woman is.

[ChumpDumper]

^confirmed pedo

[Will Hunting]

Pure, unadulterated evil what these gender ideology zealots are doing to confused, vulnerable kids.

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[Spurminator]

Pure, unadulterated evil what these gender ideology zealots are doing to confused, vulnerable kids.

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Looks like she/he was getting counseling.

Are you reading this as they were conducting hormone therapy? None of that is in the write-up.

[Will Hunting]

Looks like she/he was getting counseling.

Are you reading this as they were conducting hormone therapy? None of that is in the write-up.
You don't think the counselor should have been disclosing the fact she was getting counseling and being given a male identity to her parents? How about after the kid's first suicide attempt? Should the parents have maybe been informed at that point?

Can't wait to see what Big Ron does to the school officials who were involved in this.

[spurraider21]

matt walsh and now christopher rufo

OP you might want to look into guys like dinesh dsouza, james lindsay, and mike cernovic. look like they're right up your alley

[Spurminator]

You don't think the counselor should have been disclosing the fact she was getting counseling and being given a male identity to her parents? How about after the kid's first suicide attempt? Should the parents have maybe been informed at that point?

Can't wait to see what Big Ron does to the school officials who were involved in this.

Not if the kid didn't want the parents to be informed. That's basic counselor/student privilege. You can't assume the suicide attempt would have been prevented with the parents' awareness. You could just as easily assume that would have accelerated it.

[spurraider21]

Not if the kid didn't want the parents to be informed. That's basic counselor/student privilege. You can't assume the suicide attempt would have been prevented with the parents' awareness. You could just as easily assume that would have accelerated it.
might depend situationally, but i also dont know if there are protocols in place that would require that kind of health event to be reported to parents. but yeah you could envision a situation where a kid has parents who are staunchly anti-trans, the kid knows this, but is having doubts about their identity. they might feel that telling the parents, or having them informed, would subject them to hostility or abuse at home.

but i have to wonder if for something as drastic of a suicide attempt, that there isn't a rule or policy in place as far as alerting parents to that

[spurraider21]

Not if the kid didn't want the parents to be informed. That's basic counselor/student privilege. You can't assume the suicide attempt would have been prevented with the parents' awareness. You could just as easily assume that would have accelerated it.
at least when it comes to attorney client privilege, some of the exceptions for disclosing those communications would include if there is a meaningful likelihood that someone will be injured or killed as a result of the lack of disclosure (ie client tells his defense attorney that he is going to murder the prosecutor... the defense attorney would be able to report that to the authorities despite the privilege). if a kid was having suicide ideation and had even attempted one... i have to believe there would be a similar exception to any form of counselor/student privilege, but i cant say i know for sure in florida

[Will Hunting]

matt walsh and now christopher rufo

OP you might want to look into guys like dinesh dsouza, james lindsay, and mike cernovic. look like they're right up your alley
ad hominem; opinion discarded

[Will Hunting]

Not if the kid didn't want the parents to be informed. That's basic counselor/student privilege. You can't assume the suicide attempt would have been prevented with the parents' awareness. You could just as easily assume that would have accelerated it.
Suicide attempts before the groomer started telling her she was a man: 0
Suicide attempts after the groomer started telling her she was a man: 2

But by all means, go ahead and blame the parents.

Also, if we're going to argue over what basic counselor/student privilege is, a suicide attempt that occurred during school isn't counselor/student privileged. You can't honestly be serious that the kid's 1st attempt to hang herself shouldn't be disclosed to the parents due to counselor/student privilege :lmao

Further, the counselor had no problems telling other teachers and faculty about the new name this girl would be adopting. You don't get to claim privilege over information you're busy gossiping about with the school's staff.

[Spurminator]

might depend situationally, but i also dont know if there are protocols in place that would require that kind of health event to be reported to parents. but yeah you could envision a situation where a kid has parents who are staunchly anti-trans, the kid knows this, but is having doubts about their identity. they might feel that telling the parents, or having them informed, would subject them to hostility or abuse at home.

but i have to wonder if for something as drastic of a suicide attempt, that there isn't a rule or policy in place as far as alerting parents to that

Seems like that's what they did anyway, depending on what comes out about the two suicide attempts (how far apart, was the school aware of the first, etc.)

[Will Hunting]

Like the lawsuit alleges the counselor was disclosing the kid's new name and gender identity to teachers and students without ever getting her consent, so it's pretty remarkable to claim that the counselor didn't disclose anything to the parents out of concern for the girl's desired confidentiality.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Faivc0TUIAU1FXh?format=jpg&name=medium

[Monostradamus]

Pure, unadulterated evil what these gender ideology zealots are doing to confused, vulnerable kids.

1560690824492376064
I don’t know, this reads more like the kid knows her parents are super transphobic, and she was scared to come out to them.

Hiding the suicide attempts is 100% wrong though.

[Spurminator]

Suicide attempts before the groomer started telling her she was a man: 0
Suicide attempts after the groomer started telling her she was a man: 2

Nothing in your article suggests the counselor "told her she was a man" or encouraged it in any way. Sounds like you wanted the counselor to tell her she was full of shit and needed to get over it. I'm sure that would have been great for her mental health.


But by all means, go ahead and blame the parents.

Didn't blame the parents. It's not uncommon for kids to speak to counselors/teachers about subjects they're uncomfortable telling their parents about.


Also, if we're going to argue over what basic counselor/student privilege is, a suicide attempt that occurred during school isn't counselor/student privileged. You can't honestly be serious that the kid's 1st attempt to hang herself shouldn't be disclosed to the parents due to counselor/student privilege :lmao

Further, the counselor had no problems telling other teachers and faculty about the new name this girl would be adopting. You don't get to claim privilege over information you're busy gossiping about with the school's staff.

Where does it say the suicide attempt was a hanging? Now you're just making shit up. Maybe you should wait for more info before taking cues from alt-right trolls on Twitter and rushing to hyperbole. If the kid wanted the counselor's help with communicating and reenforcing their new identity, that's still acceptable under privilege.

[spurraider21]

Suicide attempts before the groomer started telling her she was a man: 0
Suicide attempts after the groomer started telling her she was a man: 2
what do you think groomer means?

[SpursforSix]

One part love, one part wild
One part lady, one part child

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[spurraider21]

I don’t know, this reads more like the kid knows her parents are super transphobic, and she was scared to come out to them.

Hiding the suicide attempts is 100% wrong though.
could be tough to disclose one without the other

my moral instinct is that the parents absolutely have the right to know about that kind of risk to their child's health. its unclear to me what the actual rules and policies are, though.

[Will Hunting]

I don’t know, this reads more like the kid knows her parents are super transphobic, and she was scared to come out to them.

Hiding the suicide attempts is 100% wrong though.
The article says the counselor started disclosing her new name and gender identity to teachers and students without getting her consent.

Why are we pretending the counselor was trying to respect the wishes of the kid when the counselor literally ignored her wishes?

[spurraider21]

The article says the counselor started disclosing her new name and gender identity to teachers and students without getting her consent.

Why are we pretending the counselor was trying to respect the wishes of the kid when the counselor literally ignored her wishes?
the article is repeating allegations made by the parents, not findings of fact.

i dont know why this story is suddenly getting picked up on now despite the fact that i can find articles about the suit going back to january 2022

if its true that they started revealing the student's new name/gender identity to others in a public manner expressly against the student's desire, yeah, thats probably a problem on its own

[Will Hunting]

Nothing in your article suggests the counselor "told her she was a man" or encouraged it in any way. Sounds like you wanted the counselor to tell her she was full of shit and needed to get over it. I'm sure that would have been great for her mental health.
The article says that the counselor was disclosing the kid's new name and gender identity to other teachers and students without ever getting her consent. Do you think that's wrong and if so, why are you defending the counselor?


Where does it say the suicide attempt was a hanging? Now you're just making shit up. Maybe you should wait for more info before taking cues from alt-right trolls on Twitter and rushing to hyperbole. If the kid wanted the counselor's help with communicating and reenforcing their new identity, that's still acceptable under privilege.
the news story at the time said it was 2 suicide attempts in 2 days, both times being a hanging in the bathroom.

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[Will Hunting]

the article is repeating allegations made by the parents, not findings of fact.
Do you think the parents are lying?

[Will Hunting]

what do you think groomer means?
someone who builds a relationship, trust and emotional connection with a child or young person so they can manipulate, exploit and abuse them

[SpursforSix]

what do you think groomer means?

I suppose this is off topic. I was going to post a joke pic but learned that you can buy Pubic Wigs online.
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[spurraider21]

someone who builds a relationship, trust and emotional connection with a child or young person so they can manipulate, exploit and abuse them
and what is the manipulation, exploitation, or abuse here? the revealing of the new/identity?

[Will Hunting]

and what is the manipulation, exploitation, or abuse here? the revealing of the new/identity?
I'd say running around gossiping about how one of the students seeing you for counseling has a new name and gender identity definitely falls into the bucket of exploitation

[spurraider21]

Do you think the parents are lying?
i have no independent knowledge of the facts other than what the parents have alleged. im not in a position to say that they are lying or that they are telling the truth. i have no issue with the lawsuit going through the regular discovery process or the school/district conducting an investigation into the allegations. if there were breaches of policy, protocol, etc, there should be ramifications

just based on my narrow reading of the article it would appear the parents have an axe to grind when it comes to transgenderism in general (to the point their own kid felt uncomfortable going to them, and preferred to speak with school counselors about the issue), so they could just be looking to blame the school for their child having gender identity issues. like religious parents blaming a kids friends/environment if they turn out to be gay. but i dont know. i'm also not one who takes allegations in a complaint at face value

[spurraider21]

I'd say running around gossiping about how one of the students seeing you for counseling has a new name and gender identity definitely falls into the bucket of exploitation
how is that exploitation? what benefit is the counselor getting?

[Monostradamus]

The article says the counselor started disclosing her new name and gender identity to teachers and students without getting her consent.

Why are we pretending the counselor was trying to respect the wishes of the kid when the counselor literally ignored her wishes?
The article is also from genspect.org which within 5 minutes I could easily tell is a right wing transphobic site masquerading as a “we just want people to freely explore all options and be independent thinkers” group.

[Will Hunting]

how is that exploitation? what benefit is the counselor getting?
idk, maybe the counselor is a glutton for seeing teen girls suffer, certainly seems like it given the jealous path to suicide the counselor managed to send this girl on.

[Spurminator]

The article says that the counselor was disclosing the kid's new name and gender identity to other teachers and students without ever getting her consent. Do you think that's wrong and if so, why are you defending the counselor?

The article says the lawsuit states the counselor was disclosing the kid's new name and gender identity to other teachers and students without ever getting her consent. I've learned not to take claims in a lawsuit at face value, particularly claims made by children with mental health issues.

The counselor should absolutely not disclose those private discussions with other staff members without the student's consent.

I don't have enough information to defend or condemn the counselor. For all I know, "disclosing the kid's new name and gender identity to other teachers and students" could just as easily mean the counselor was mocking the kid behind their back, and if that's the case, roll 'em.

[Will Hunting]

The article is also from genspect.org which within 5 minutes I could easily tell is a right wing transphobic site masquerading as a “we just want people to freely explore all options and be independent thinkers” group.
https://tallahasseereports.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Complaint-As-Filed-101821.pdf

the lawsuit makes pretty specific allegations about emails between the counselor and the teachers about the student's gender identity.

[spurraider21]

student's dad and his attorney went on Laura Igraham's show a while ago and yeah, basically said they wanted to be able to raise their kid according to their catholic faith. which is to say they were not going to accept their kid's transgender identity, and would explain why the kid did not want the parents informed

[spurraider21]

idk, maybe the counselor is a glutton for seeing teen girls suffer, certainly seems like it given the jealous path to suicide the counselor managed to send this girl on.
you dont know, maybe

gotcha

the theory here is that the student was exploited because the counselor received the benefit of getting off on seeing a teenager suffer. interesting theory.

honestly, if a counselor enjoyed seeing trans kids suffer humiliation, i wouldnt really think that counselor is pro trans at all. probably a false flag based on your theory tbqh. anti trans activist posing as a pro trans counselor to make them look bad. the perfect crime.

[Will Hunting]

you dont know, maybe

gotcha

the theory here is that the student was exploited because the counselor received the benefit of getting off on seeing a teenager suffer. interesting theory.

honestly, if a counselor enjoyed seeing trans kids suffer humiliation, i wouldnt really think that counselor is pro trans at all. probably a false flag based on your theory tbqh. anti trans activist posing as a pro trans counselor to make them look bad. the perfect crime.
:lol you're legit trying to split hairs over what exploitation means in defense of a counselor going behind a kid's back and humiliating her

[spurraider21]

:lol you're legit trying to split hairs over what exploitation means in defense of a counselor going behind a kid's back and humiliating her
nah i just take offense with people loosely throwing "groomer" around at literally anybody tangentially related to transgenderism

the term groomer has a pretty heavy connotation, and people will typically associate that term with some type of sexual abuse. people using the term flippantly are part of a big problem, imho

[spurraider21]

:lol you're legit trying to split hairs over what exploitation means in defense of a counselor going behind a kid's back and humiliating her
you're legit arguing that the super pro trans counselor takes pleasure in seeing trans kids suffer public humiliation over their being trans, which is a pretty strong contradiction

[Monostradamus]

nah i just take offense with people loosely throwing "groomer" around at literally anybody tangentially related to transgenderism

the term groomer has a pretty heavy connotation, and people will typically associate that term with some type of sexual abuse. people using the term flippantly are part of a big problem
These are the same people who took words like “SJW” “woke” “triggered”, & “fake news”, completely redefined those terms, and beat them into the ground until everyone wants to vomit when some 72 year old lady at the grocery store whines about wokeness.

At this point “groomer” is gone too, they’re redefined it, it just means anybody who thinks trans people deserve to live.

[Will Hunting]

you're legit arguing that the super pro trans counselor takes pleasure in seeing trans kids suffer public humiliation over their being trans, which is a pretty strong contradiction
I said the counselor was a gender ideology zealot, I never said pro trans, or pro trans people.

If the counselor doesn't take pleasure in seeing kids suffer, then she's just about the worst counselor in the world, seeing that she drove a kid to attempt suicide two days in a row. The next Sigmund fucking Freud right there :lmao

[Will Hunting]

These are the same people who took words like “SJW” “woke” “triggered”, & “fake news”, completely redefined those terms, and beat them into the ground until everyone wants to vomit when some 72 year old lady at the grocery store whines about wokeness.

At this point “groomer” is gone too, they’re redefined it, it just means anybody who thinks trans people deserve to live.
Thinks "trans people" deserve to live...yet pushes trans student to the brink of suicide. Curious!

[spurraider21]

These are the same people who took words like “SJW” “woke” “triggered”, & “fake news”, completely redefined those terms, and beat them into the ground until everyone wants to vomit when some 72 year old lady at the grocery store whines about wokeness.

At this point “groomer” is gone too, they’re redefined it, it just means anybody who thinks trans people deserve to live.
the fact that its as overused as it is is completely fucked up too. its an attempt to dehumanize anybody supporting of transgender people trying to live a happy life. while the transgender group is much smaller in scope to the gay/lesbian/bi group, the transgender discussion has blown up to be about as big as the "gay marriage" arguments used to be, and honestly its all the same shitty rehashed arguments

gay people want to destroy the family unit and traditional culture. gay people are predators trying to get to kids to turn them gay.

rinse, repeat.

[Monostradamus]

I said the counselor was a gender ideology zealot, I never said pro trans, or pro trans people.

If the counselor doesn't take pleasure in seeing kids suffer, then she's just about the worst counselor in the world, seeing that she drove a kid to attempt suicide two days in a row. The next Sigmund fucking Freud right there :lmao
Do you seriously think the counselor drover her to suicide?

How many people in history have attempted suicide due to an abusive relationship with their school counselor vs an abusive relationship with their parents?

[spurraider21]

Thinks "trans people" deserve to live...yet pushes trans student to the brink of suicide. Curious!
see, you DO believe that the counselor actually hates trans people and wants them to commit suicide. and yet you started this conversation by calling that counselor a gender ideology zealot.

cUrIoUs!

[spurraider21]

Do you seriously think the counselor drover her to suicide?

How many people in history have attempted suicide due to an abusive relationship with their school counselor vs an abusive relationship with their parents?
suicide attempt probably had nothing to do with the student feeling ashamed of who they are, by their peers at school, or more notably, their parents at home who probably remind the child on a weekly basis that transgender people are the spawn of satan and are damned to hell for eternity. everything to do with the counselor tbh

[Will Hunting]

nah i just take offense with people loosely throwing "groomer" around at literally anybody tangentially related to transgenderism

the term groomer has a pretty heavy connotation, and people will typically associate that term with some type of sexual abuse. people using the term flippantly are part of a big problem, imho
The definition I provided doesn't require sexual abuse as a pre-req...the fact that's how you see the term isn't my problem.

I'd say the big problem is that some cheese dick school counselor is pulling the trigger on a gender dysphoria diagnosis after what appears to be just a couple months of counseling at school.

[spurraider21]

The definition I provided doesn't require sexual abuse as a pre-req...the fact that's how you see the term isn't my problem.
i know. i was careful in my wording in that "the term groomer has a pretty heavy connotation, and people will typically associate that term with some type of sexual abuse."

your definition didnt require abuse, but also included either manipulation or exploitation. i dont see how what happened to be "exploitative" because nothing was done for the benefit of the counselor. exploitation would be like the counselor parlaying their sessions with the students into national TV interviews about how they are great for the trans community and all the work they've done to try to get some kind of clout or money or something

[Will Hunting]

Do you seriously think the counselor drover her to suicide?
Yes, 100%.


How many people in history have attempted suicide due to an abusive relationship with their school counselor vs an abusive relationship with their parents?
It's too early to tell, school counselors handing out gender dysphoria diagnoses like they're candy and to kids who are depressed and then telling teachers to refer to the kids as a certain name and pronoun (leading to only more bullying) is a very recent phenomenon.

What's remarkable is that teen suicides in the US are at like an all time high, which doesn't jibe with the gender ideology theory that there's always been an underbelly of trans people killing themselves en masse because society never offered them the help they need finally being offered suicide-preventing "gender affirmation treatment" for the first time in human history.

Theoretically, if trans ideology is correct, the introduction of gender affirmation care to teenagers would lead to a substantial reduction in teen suicide, no?

[spurraider21]

Yes, 100%.


It's too early to tell, school counselors handing out gender dysphoria diagnoses like they're candy and to kids who are depressed and then telling teachers to refer to the kids as a certain name and pronoun (leading to only more bullying) is a very recent phenomenon.

What's remarkable is that teen suicides in the US are at like an all time high, which doesn't jibe with the gender ideology theory that there's always been an underbelly of trans people killing themselves en masse because society never offered them the help they need finally being offered suicide-preventing "gender affirmation treatment" for the first time in human history.

Theoretically, if trans ideology is correct, the introduction of gender affirmation care to teenagers would lead to a substantial reduction in teen suicide, no?
yes because the national discourse of transgenderism going on right now is probably very healthy for those people and helps them feel like they belong

btw the #1 factor that decreases suicide risk among trans teens is strong support from their immediate family

metastudy has found that 51 of 55 studies done on the effects of gender transition found that gender transition improves the overall well being of those effected, while the other 4 found mixed or null findings

https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/

[Will Hunting]

yes because the national discourse of transgenderism going on right now is probably very healthy for those people and helps them feel like they belong
Well the percentage of people who identify as trans has also shot through the roof in the last 5-10 years. Presumably the national attitude towards transgenderism has improved somewhat compared to the historical norm if more people (esp. young people) are willing to come out as trans, no?

Like I'm pretty sure a kid who's trans would have gotten bullied a lot harder in school 30 years ago than he/she would get bullied now.

[spurraider21]

Well the percentage of people who identify as trans has also shot through the roof in the last 5-10 years. Presumably the national attitude towards transgenderism has improved somewhat compared to the historical norm if more people (esp. young people) are willing to come out as trans, no?

Like I'm pretty sure a kid who's trans would have gotten bullied a lot harder in school 30 years ago than he/she would get bullied now.
i think theres probably a lot of people who felt weird/different 30 years ago that had never heard of the term transgender or really knew it was a thing that they could actually relate to, so they couldnt really put a label on how they were feeling. were probably just made fun of for being queer or gay instead and had a shitty adolescence.

if you are looking at teen suicide rates, generally, and if its true that their suicide rates are higher than they've ever been, then there are a lot of factors like social media which would be good explanations for recently elevated suicidality as opposed to confidently asserting that it definitely has to do with transgender ideology or whatever

[spurraider21]

also... lol

https://www.childtrends.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/SuicidalTeens_Figure1.png
https://www.childtrends.org/indicators/suicidal-teens


this is all the transgenders fault

[Will Hunting]

yes because the national discourse of transgenderism going on right now is probably very healthy for those people and helps them feel like they belong

btw the #1 factor that decreases suicide risk among trans teens is strong support from their immediate family

metastudy has found that 51 of 55 studies done on the effects of gender transition found that gender transition improves the overall well being of those effected, while the other 4 found mixed or null findings

https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/
How long after the transition were these people sampled though?

I think there's some scientific evidence that the transition surgery/hormone treatment improves well being in the short term, but I think there's an abject failure to determine what the long term effects are.

[Blake]

I mean, could be an over zealous counselor trying to be a hero to the kid and possibly crossed a line. If so ok fire them.

Same thing if the kid came in and said "I'm not sure about my gender" and the counselor said "you need Jesus, come to church on Sunday where they can give you info on how to get that sin out of your life".

[Spurminator]

I mean, could be an over zealous counselor trying to be a hero to the kid and possibly crossed a line. If so ok fire them.

Same thing if the kid came in and said "I'm not sure about my gender" and the counselor said "you need Jesus, come to church on Sunday where they can give you info on how to get that sin out of your life".

Only two explanations that make sense:

Kid confided in counselor and counselor mocked student behind their back to other staff members, which potentially also leaked out to other students.

Kid confided in counselor and counselor offered (with kid's verbal permission) to communicate the kid's name/gender preference to other staff on their behalf. Following suicide attempts and in support of the pending lawsuit by the parents, kid now denies this permission was ever given.

"I'm going to support this child's gender preference by telling staff members and students about it without their permission" is nonsensical unless you're only viewing this through a paranoid alt-right lens.

[spurraider21]

How long after the transition were these people sampled though?

I think there's some scientific evidence that the transition surgery/hormone treatment improves well being in the short term, but I think there's an abject failure to determine what the long term effects are.
its a meta analysis of 55 studies. i doubt they had identical methodologies.

if you're going to concern troll about suicide rates, and if these measures help prevent those now, then absent something that demonstrates that there are in fact long term detriments which would outweigh the immediate improvement of well being, you shouldnt really have issue with it

[DMC]

suicide attempt probably had nothing to do with the student feeling ashamed of who they are, by their peers at school, or more notably, their parents at home who probably remind the child on a weekly basis that transgender people are the spawn of satan and are damned to hell for eternity. everything to do with the counselor tbh

Good to see you stick to the facts.

[DMC]

How long after the transition were these people sampled though?

I think there's some scientific evidence that the transition surgery/hormone treatment improves well being in the short term, but I think there's an abject failure to determine what the long term effects are.

like giving cake and ice cream to a 5 year old.

[DMC]

i think theres probably a lot of people who felt weird/different 30 years ago that had never heard of the term transgender or really knew it was a thing that they could actually relate to, so they couldnt really put a label on how they were feeling. were probably just made fun of for being queer or gay instead and had a shitty adolescence.

if you are looking at teen suicide rates, generally, and if its true that their suicide rates are higher than they've ever been, then there are a lot of factors like social media which would be good explanations for recently elevated suicidality as opposed to confidently asserting that it definitely has to do with transgender ideology or whatever

[Blake]

Good to see you stick to the facts.

Yeah that's how guessing what happened works until the facts actually come out

[DMC]

Yeah that's how guessing what happened works until the facts actually come out

Explained how you used that technique in your life.

[Blake]

Explained how you used that technique in your life.

Explains how you talk about my life

[DMC]

Explains how you talk about my life

Like how you stalk KW off this site and post images from his business site here?

[koriwhat]

Like how you stalk KW off this site and post images from his business site here?

He loves my legs like the other fresas here who saved that photo to their photobucket and HDD's. :lol

It's all good though. I support them no matter what.

[Isitjustme?]

I suppose this is off topic. I was going to post a joke pic but learned that you can buy Pubic Wigs online.
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Oh, ok.

[Blake]

Like how you stalk KW off this site and post images from his business site here?

Nope, you imagining my sex life and me posting a picture of one of his tats he posted online is not anything alike. You're flailing like you usually do.

[koriwhat]

I suppose this is off topic. I was going to post a joke pic but learned that you can buy Pubic Wigs online.

So many degenerates these days... SMH

[DMC]

Nope, you imagining my sex life and me posting a picture of one of his tats he posted online is not anything alike. You're flailing like you usually do.

He didn't post it here. So if I find your facebook page and post your images here, that's cool since you posted it online.

No one has to imagine your sex life because A) you don't have one and B) you told everyone why.

[Blake]

He didn't post it here. So if I find your facebook page and post your images here, that's cool since you posted it online.

It's his business photos. When he posts it it's advertising. When I repost it, it's stalking. You guys are completely shaken.



No one has to imagine your sex life because A) you don't have one and B) you told everyone why.

A and B) completely your red-assed imagination. It's all you got.

[leemajors]

I suppose this is off topic. I was going to post a joke pic but learned that you can buy Pubic Wigs online.
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Merkins have been around for a very long time.

[SpursforSix]

Merkins have been around for a very long time.

Some research confirms that. I’m a little shocked I was unaware of this. Although apparently now, you can buy them for a sex doll.

[Monostradamus]

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[koriwhat]

He didn't post it here. So if I find your facebook page and post your images here, that's cool since you posted it online.

No one has to imagine your sex life because A) you don't have one and B) you told everyone why.

What's the photo/tattoo in question? I'd like to see it tbh. And yeah CUCKOLD ain't dickin' no one down. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

derp threatens to doxx people again.

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/ReduxxMag/status/1561814322770333696

Poor kid.

[Ghazi]

LMAO WOMEN SAYING IM NOT A WOMAN HAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAAHAHHAHA WHAT THE FUCK

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/ReduxxMag/status/1561814322770333696

Poor kid.

Oh no walking down a runway at ten years old. Sounds like a rough life

[TSA]

Oh no walking down a runway at ten years old. Sounds like a rough life

"Dee McMaher, Noella’s biological mother, is a social justice advocate who identifies as non-binary, appears to be on hormone replacement therapy, and recently had a cosmetic mastectomy. Both she and her current partner are females who identify as trans masculine. According to the Point Foundation website, McMaher, neé Kalick, has been an “advocate and educator” for transgender children for 10 years — roughly since around the time Noella was born."

"In 2019, McMaher married Ray, a biological female who also identifies as transgender and works in “LGBTQ health justice.”

That year, Noella and McMaher were profiled in Chicago Parent, wherein it was stated McMaher has planned for Noella to have “gender surgeries” at age 16, but would start the child on puberty blockers and hormone therapy before then.

McMaher and her partner appear to have another young infant they are raising as non-binary, referring to the child as a “theybie” who is often photographed in a jumper which reads “genderless is more.”

Speaking to Reduxx on the case, Sinead Watson expressed incredulity at the disturbing details.

“I cannot believe this child was affirmed at such a young age. I cannot believe this child – this baby – was deemed wrong as young as 2.” Watson says, “And legal changes as 6? This whole case is abhorrent.”

Watson is a vocal member of an active and growing online community of detransitioners – people who began, but ended and sought to reverse a gender transition. Watson had taken testosterone for 3 years after deciding she identified as male, but later realized her feelings came from a struggle with misogyny and trauma. Watson has been open about her experience being immediately “affirmed” by clinicians, with all of them failing to investigate her history of mental wellness concerns.

“That this child parents both happen to be ‘trans’ or ‘queer’ is no surprise to me. They are forcing their own ideological ideas onto their innocent baby.” Watson says the phenomenon is not new to her, and that she’d seen stories of parents transitioning gender non-conforming children as early as 2015.

“As with the social contagion among vulnerable children, we’re seeing more and more parents with Münchausen syndrome by proxy. It’s not the kids who are trans – it’s the parents who want them to be trans.”

On the family’s plans to have Noella undergo “gender surgeries” at 16, Watson calls it “child abuse” in no uncertain terms.

“So many children will be harmed by this in the future. So many. I can say nothing else other than I am absoulutly disgusted by what these people are doing to this poor child. Unforgivable.”

Childhood transition has become a growing concern in recent years as many have witnessed an explosion in both gender clinic locations and the prevalence of “trans kids.” According to Gender Mapper, North America has seen the amount of pediatric gender identity clinics grow from a mere handful to “over 200” in just 10 years.

On February 25, the National Academy of Medicine in France issued a release to its professional members noting that it had become aware of a “sharp increase in demand” in youth and adolescents seeking gender identity services.

The Academy called it an “epidemic like phenomenon” and cautioned clinicians to take caution when dealing with youth presenting with gender identity concerns.

But French medical professionals were not alone in their concern. Globally, multiple countries and health authorities have taken steps to try and stop or restrict childhood transition, citing negative longterm consequences for the child.

In April, the Florida Department of Health has issued a press release discouraging all forms of medical and social treatment for ‘gender dysphoria’ in children and adolescents. The Department pointed to a report out of Sweden in which a trans-identified female child who was prescribed puberty blockers at 11 went on to develop severe medical side-effects. The girl developed severe osteoarthritis in her spine after 5 years on the medication. Her height was also stunted, and X-Rays demonstrated a number of abnormalities in her skeleton.

Even “social transitioning” has come under scrutiny, with some detransitioners noting that it is not without its negative long-term consequences.

According to Dr. Leor Sapir, a fellow at the Manhattan Institute, “social affirmation” often puts children on the pathway to full medical transition.

In a thread published today, Dr. Sapir noted: “Schools are not being ‘supportive’ or ‘inclusive’ when they adopt ‘affirming’ policies. Instead, they are potentially changing the course of psychosocial development and putting kids on track to becoming sterile, sexually dysfunctional, and lifelong wards of the medical industry.”

[MultiTroll]

FFS

More Info on the 10 year old Tranny Model's Mutant Lesbian Parents - The Daily Rake (https://dailyrake.ca/2022/08/20/more-info-on-the-10-year-old-tranny-models-mutant-lesbian-parents/)

[Blake]

So you think she's not fine, not happy. What do you want to do about it?

[MultiTroll]

"Dee McMaher, Noella’s biological mother,

"In 2019, McMaher married Ray, a biological female who also identifies as transgender and works in “LGBTQ health justice.”
https://dailyrake.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/noella8.png

[MultiTroll]

So you think she's not fine, not happy. What do you want to do about it?
Criminal offense.
Hardcore.

[ChumpDumper]

Send the kid back to the arm-breaking father, I guess.

[MultiTroll]

Send the kid back to the arm-breaking father, I guess.
Arm broke because of abuse by the Dad, or normal contact by Dad and instead arm broke because of substances the Freak Shows gave the child from infancy?


In April, the Florida Department of Health has issued a press release discouraging all forms of medical and social treatment for ‘gender dysphoria’ in children and adolescents. The Department pointed to a report out of Sweden in which a trans-identified female child who was prescribed puberty blockers at 11 went on to develop severe medical side-effects. The girl developed severe osteoarthritis in her spine after 5 years on the medication. Her height was also stunted, and X-Rays demonstrated a number of abnormalities in her skeleton.

[ChumpDumper]

Arm broke because of abuse by the Dad, or normal contact by Dad and instead arm broke because of substances the Freak Shows gave the child from infancy?According to the father himself, it was abuse.

Do you believe him?

[Blake]

Criminal offense.
Hardcore.

What exactly is the crime?

[MultiTroll]

According to the father himself, it was abuse.

Do you believe him?
I'd have to see the source where the father allegedly says he abused his son. Could he have snapped upon seeing how radically super abused his son had been by the Freak Show(s)? Sad if he did but again, lets see your source for allegations. Credible or some Freak Show propganda?

[ChumpDumper]

I'd have to see the source where the father allegedly says he abused his son. Could he have snapped upon seeing how radically super abused his son had been by the Freak Show(s)? Sad if he did but again, lets see your source for allegations. Credible or some Freak Show propganda?It's in the article TSA linked.

All you're saying is you haven't actually read the article.:tu

[MultiTroll]

It's in the article TSA linked.

All you're saying is you haven't actually read the article.:tu
TSA didn't provide a link, but google provides what must be the article. If you are talking about this article:
World's Youngest Trans Model Has Two Trans Parents, Will Have "Gender Surgery" At 16 - Reduxx (https://reduxx.info/worlds-youngest-trans-model-has-two-trans-parents-will-have-gender-surgery-at-16/)

there is absolutely no quote of the father himself stating it was abuse.

[ChumpDumper]

TSA didn't provide a link, but google provides what must be the article. If you are talking about this article:
World's Youngest Trans Model Has Two Trans Parents, Will Have "Gender Surgery" At 16 - Reduxx (https://reduxx.info/worlds-youngest-trans-model-has-two-trans-parents-will-have-gender-surgery-at-16/)

there is absolutely no quote of the father himself stating it was abuse.The tweet has the link in it.

You're welcome for this lesson in Social Media 101.:tu

The father pleaded guilty to a charge involving breaking the child's arm and got probation.

You're welcome for this lesson in Legal Statements 101.:tu

[MultiTroll]

According to the father himself, it was abuse.

Do you believe him?


I'd have to see the source where the father allegedly says he abused his son. Could he have snapped upon seeing how radically super abused his son had been by the Freak Show(s)? Sad if he did but again, lets see your source for allegations. Credible or some Freak Show propganda?


It's in the article TSA linked.

All you're saying is you haven't actually read the article.:tu


The tweet has the link in it.

You're welcome for this lesson in Social Media 101.:tu

The father pleaded guilty to a charge involving breaking the child's arm and got probation.

You're welcome for this lesson in Legal Statements 101.:tu
Absolutely nothing in the article of the father himself saying he abused.

Why do you lie?

[ChumpDumper]

Absolutely nothing in the article of the father himself saying he abused.

Why do you lie?:lol You still haven't read the article.:tu

[MultiTroll]

:lol You still haven't read the article.:tu
Chumpy desperately trying to divert attention away from his lie.

[Blake]

https://reduxx.info/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Screenshot-2022-08-22-at-1.38.48-PM-696x346.png

Pretty easy find, tbh

[Blake]

Cool mustache tho

[MultiTroll]

According to the father himself, it was abuse.

Do you believe him?


https://reduxx.info/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Screenshot-2022-08-22-at-1.38.48-PM-696x346.png

Pretty easy find, tbh
Nope.
Not a word in the article quoting the father about his abusing his kid.

McMaher also fought to have McCord charged with a hate crime,but the court determined there was not enough evidence to do so. In 2018, McCord pleaded to a lesser charge and was handed probation rather than jail time. He is currently employed as an analytical chemist in Chicago, having previously worked as a medical examiner and toxicologist for Cook County, Illinois.>

As far as pleading guilty to anything, well lets see. He's facing bogus charges and the witnesses will be Freak Show Trannies and brainwashed 4 year old.
People plead guilty to a charge all the time when the alternative is facing jail time on some trumped up shit. McCord plead out.

So Tranny Advocate Chumpy fabricated this lie about the father.

[ChumpDumper]

Nope.
Not a word in the article quoting the father about his abusing his kid.

McMaher also fought to have McCord charged with a hate crime,but the court determined there was not enough evidence to do so. In 2018, McCord pleaded to a lesser charge and was handed probation rather than jail time. He is currently employed as an analytical chemist in Chicago, having previously worked as a medical examiner and toxicologist for Cook County, Illinois.>

As far as pleading guilty to anything, well lets see. He's facing bogus charges and the witnesses will be Freak Show Trannies and brainwashed 4 year old.
People plead guilty to shit all the time when the alternative is jail time on some trumped us shit.

So Tranny Advocate Chumpy fabricated this lie about the father. Bogus charges?

You'll have to be more specific, counselor. Since you've taken up the defense of a father who gave his kid a spiral arm fracture, the burden is now on you to say why it was a good and kind spiral fracture that the child deserved and appreciated.

I personally think any physical transition should wait until at least age 18.

You think kids deserve spiral arm fractures for being kids.

[MultiTroll]

According to the father himself, it was abuse.

Do you believe him?


Absolutely nothing in the article of the father himself saying he abused.

Why do you lie?


Chumpy desperately trying to divert attention away from his lie.

[ChumpDumper]

How do you think the kid got a spiral arm fracture while staying with McCord, counselor?

Be specific.

[Blake]

Nope.
Not a word in the article quoting the father about his abusing his kid.

McMaher also fought to have McCord charged with a hate crime,but the court determined there was not enough evidence to do so. In 2018, McCord pleaded to a lesser charge and was handed probation rather than jail time. He is currently employed as an analytical chemist in Chicago, having previously worked as a medical examiner and toxicologist for Cook County, Illinois.>

As far as pleading guilty to anything, well lets see. He's facing bogus charges and the witnesses will be Freak Show Trannies and brainwashed 4 year old.
People plead guilty to a charge all the time when the alternative is facing jail time on some trumped up shit. McCord plead out.

So Tranny Advocate Chumpy fabricated this lie about the father.

What was the lesser charge

[Blake]

Suspected child beater better than a trans parent huh

[MultiTroll]

What was the lesser charge
Article does not say. If you're able to find out please post.

I'm not going to fabricate some fantasy tweet that doesn't exist either.


Suspected child beater better than a trans parent huh
What the tranny parents did to the infant and kid is 300Xs worse.

"Child beater" is just another fabrication. We don't know what kind of undernourished diet / crazy trans supplements the two Freakazoids had the kid on thus how easily a bone could be fractured. Rumphumper posts "spiral" but gives zero support per par.

[ChumpDumper]

Article does not say. If you're able to find out please post.

I'm not going to fabricate some fantasy tweet that doesn't exist either.


What the tranny parents did to the infant and kid is 300Xs worse.

"Child beater" is just another fabrication. We don't know what kind of undernourished diet / crazy trans supplements the two Freakazoids had the kid on thus how easily a bone could be fractured. Rumphumper posts "spiral" but gives zero support per par.

I freely admit the bias of this source, but the facts of the case are not in question. McCord could've sued the shit out of them had this not been true.

In July 2016, during their typical nighttime routine, McCord attempted to force Noella into “boy pajamas.” Throughout this encounter, he forcefully twisted Noella’s arm, resulting in a spiral fracture break. Upon realizing he had injured the minor, he then proceeded to treat her with over-the-counter medicine. “He [McCord] was a Cook Country medical examiner,” says Beth of the incident. “He is someone who has extensive knowledge and background on what he was doing.”

Although the medication succeeded to knock the minor out that night, the following morning Beth was woken up by screams of pain coming from Noella’s bedroom. The incident was immediately reported to child protective services and McCord was arrested and charged with a Class X felony for aggravated child abuse.

The situation was initially treated with the severity it deserved. Aggravated battery of a child under the age of 13 in Illinois carries anywhere between six and 30 years in prison if convicted. The Class X is one of the most serious felony offenses on the books in Illinois. Even a first-time offender who has no criminal background is subject to a mandatory prison sentence if convicted.

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/parent-fights-to-protect-trans-child-from-abusive-father-lax-custody-system/

Now where is your evidence showing the kid had a poor diet, Flabby?

You're on the clock.

[MultiTroll]

Peoples World :lmao

The situation was initially treated with the severity it deserved. Aggravated battery of a child under the age of 13 in Illinois carries anywhere between six and 30 years in prison if convicted. The Class X is one of the most serious felony offenses on the books in Illinois. Even a first-time offender who has no criminal background is subject to a mandatory prison sentence if convicted.
and yet when the court examined and heard all parties:

McCord pleaded to a lesser charge and was handed probation rather than jail time. He is currently employed as an analytical chemist in Chicago, having previously worked as a medical examiner and toxicologist for Cook County, Illinois.

Conclusion: Bull shit trumped up fabrication by the Freaks and Peoples World.

[ChumpDumper]

Peoples World :lmao

and yet:
McCord pleaded to a lesser charge and was handed probation rather than jail time. He is currently employed as an analytical chemist in Chicago, having previously worked as a medical examiner and toxicologist for Cook County, Illinois.So you accept that he gave his child a spiral fracture.:tu

[DMC]

Forum resonance reached - Dumpy, Cuck and Flabbs in a round about.

[ChumpDumper]

Rent free.

[MultiTroll]

So you accept that he gave his child a spiral fracture.:tu
:lol Judge has long since escorted you out of court.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Judge has long since escorted you out of court.Abusive father no longer has any visitation rights.:tu

And you get the L.:tu

[Blake]

Derp talking to himself

[Blake]

What the tranny parents did to the infant and kid is 300Xs worse.

I mean, maybe in 30 years the kid might be mad but I have a hard time believing that the kid would rather be getting a pajama arm twist than walking down a model runway

[MultiTroll]

Abusive father no longer has any visitation rights.:tu
Better check with your tranny sources before fabricating more ish.

McCord’s motion to get the charges reduced allows the defendant to receive probation in favor of jail time. This also opens up the possibility for McCord to regain visitation rights.

[ChumpDumper]

Better check with your tranny sources before fabricating more ish.

McCord’s motion to get the charges reduced allows the defendant to receive probation in favor of jail time. This also opens up the possibility for McCord to regain visitation rights.It was possible.

He didn't get them.

Why are you defending the guy who broke his child's arm and the lawyers who got him the deal?

Don't you call them "lieawyers" or something like that?

Why is this team different to you?

[Millennial_Messiah]

OP (WH) still votes Democrat because he's atheist and pro choice, pro mary jane legalization, but let's face it he's definitely socially to the right :lol

As "blue dog" as it gets, IMO. I don't know why he wouldn't just outright vote for DeSantis at this point. He stands for more issues in common with Will Hunting than (F)JB, tbh.

[MultiTroll]

It was possible.

He didn't get them.

Why are you defending the guy who broke his child's arm and the lawyers who got him the deal?

Don't you call them "lieawyers" or something like that?

Why is this team different to you?
Not established to me if the fracture was caused by abuse by McCord or the kids bones were so brittle from tranny interference even a normal twist would snap them.
Extreme manipulation and hate crimes by Freakazoids towards the father. Kid was brainwashed to hate him.
If McCord did twist too hard due to extreme frustration at having your son manipulated into a tranny girl by hateful schemeing ex, while i 100 understand his frustration he cannot take it out on the kid. 100 wrong if that occurred.

Thus his attorneys were not using lies and schemery to get charges reduced like many liarwyers often use.

1. How do you know he has no visitation rights to this day? Not that McCord would want them, the kid is probably still extremely brainwashed with hate towards him.
2. How in the hell did McCord hook up with and impregnate Freakazoid? Backstory?

[ChumpDumper]

Why do you keep lying about this child's bones?

Please explain why you have to lie.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol you're an apologist for a child abuser

[MultiTroll]

Why do you keep lying about this child's bones?

Please explain why you have to lie.


:lol you're an apologist for a child abuser
Chumpy not taking his L well.

Goes with the fabrication snowman.

Yawn. Get a new schtikkk Chumpy.

[ChumpDumper]

Chumpy not taking his L well.

Goes with the fabrication snowman.

Yawn. Get a new schtikkk Chumpy.Non responsive.

Why are you making up lies about this child's bones?

[DMC]

Chumpy not taking his L well.

Goes with the fabrication snowman.

Yawn. Get a new schtikkk Chumpy.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4b/46/8d/4b468d6977dcd180ec4cf5b358c70829.gif

[MultiTroll]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4b/46/8d/4b468d6977dcd180ec4cf5b358c70829.gif
:lol

[spurraider21]

:madrun parents should be able to raise their kids however they want! family rights! parents rights!" :madrun

trans parents raise their kid in a way you dont like

:madrun no not like that :madrun

[ChumpDumper]

:lolSorry, Flabbs -- explain what the L is here.

You're the one lying about the kid's b:lolnes.

[Will Hunting]

OP (WH) still votes Democrat because he's atheist and pro choice, pro mary jane legalization, but let's face it he's definitely socially to the right :lol

As "blue dog" as it gets, IMO. I don't know why he wouldn't just outright vote for DeSantis at this point. He stands for more issues in common with Will Hunting (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17032) than (F)JB, tbh.
I'm pro MJ legalization but I don't really care. I don't smoke weed myself and I think stoners are insufferable people, so there's even a part of me that likes stoners being forced to suffer.

I truly don't think I'm socially right wing. My stance on trans issues has absolutely nothing to do with religious beliefs or anything of the sort, I truly believe in my heart of hearts that 10-20 years from now gender transition surgery is going to be looked at as a medical atrocity the same way lobotomies are now.

I'm definitely more aligned with Ron DeSantis than your average GWB era Republican, but there's just too much about the GOP that is a non starter for me. The way they fight against voters having their voice heard with things like ballot initiatives, the way they blindly oppose all attempts to get big money out of politics, the way they filibustered common sense insulin price controls, etc....the GOP is still very much the party that operates in bad faith 90% of the time.

There's a laundry list of common sense reforms that 80+% of this country probably supports, and the GOP is the party in the way of nearly all of it.

[spurraider21]

I'm pro MJ legalization but I don't really care. I don't smoke weed myself and I think stoners are insufferable people, so there's even a part of me that likes stoners being forced to suffer.

I truly don't think I'm socially right wing. My stance on trans issues has absolutely nothing to do with religious beliefs or anything of the sort, I truly believe in my heart of hearts that 10-20 years from now gender transition surgery is going to be looked at as a medical atrocity the same way lobotomies are now.

I'm definitely more aligned with Ron DeSantis than your average GWB era Republican, but there's just too much about the GOP that is a non starter for me. The way they fight against voters having their voice heard with things like ballot initiatives, the way they blindly oppose all attempts to get big money out of politics, the way they filibustered common sense insulin price controls, etc....the GOP is still very much the party that operates in bad faith 90% of the time.
what is it you like about desantis as opposed to GWB era republicans? policy wise he's basically the same except optically hes more of a trump-ish buffoon who cares more about getting clips owning the libs than actually doing anything

[Will Hunting]

what is it you like about desantis as opposed to GWB era republicans? policy wise he's basically the same except optically hes more of a trump-ish buffoon who cares more about getting clips owning the libs than actually doing anything
Well DeSantis is much closer to being a GWB Republican than he is me, but the big difference is DeSantis isn't a total simp for corporate America the way GWB era Republicans are. GWB era Republicans are complete ghouls who truly think government should exist as a vessel to empower corporations and help corporations succeed, DeSantis-type Republicans are willing to admit that corporations aren't "heroic job creators" who never do anything wrong.

DeSantis also has a much better environmental record than other Republicans which is something I care about a lot.

There's no chance I'd vote for him over a Dem tho so this doesn't really matter.

[Will Hunting]

Aside from policy I also just like how effective DeSantis is at governing. Literally every president in my lifetime has gotten elected and then been incredibly passive about getting their agenda done, so a part of me just respects DeSantis for being someone who gives a shit about getting stuff done.

it’s one of the main reasons I want Pritzker to run if Biden doesn’t…JB actually got his agenda done as governor of IL.

[spurraider21]

Well DeSantis is much closer to being a GWB Republican than he is me, but the big difference is DeSantis isn't a total simp for corporate America the way GWB era Republicans are. GWB era Republicans are complete ghouls who truly think government should exist as a vessel to empower corporations and help corporations succeed, DeSantis-type Republicans are willing to admit that corporations aren't "heroic job creators" who never do anything wrong.

DeSantis also has a much better environmental record than other Republicans which is something I care about a lot.

There's no chance I'd vote for him over a Dem tho so this doesn't really matter.
desantis is still a simp for corporate america except when he has a personal grudge against particular ones (disney, twitter, tampa bay rays etc), which is objectively an awful way to govern

[Millennial_Messiah]

I'm pro MJ legalization but I don't really care. I don't smoke weed myself and I think stoners are insufferable people, so there's even a part of me that likes stoners being forced to suffer.

I truly don't think I'm socially right wing. My stance on trans issues has absolutely nothing to do with religious beliefs or anything of the sort, I truly believe in my heart of hearts that 10-20 years from now gender transition surgery is going to be looked at as a medical atrocity the same way lobotomies are now.

I'm definitely more aligned with Ron DeSantis than your average GWB era Republican, but there's just too much about the GOP that is a non starter for me. The way they fight against voters having their voice heard with things like ballot initiatives, the way they blindly oppose all attempts to get big money out of politics, the way they filibustered common sense insulin price controls, etc....the GOP is still very much the party that operates in bad faith 90% of the time.

There's a laundry list of common sense reforms that 80+% of this country probably supports, and the GOP is the party in the way of nearly all of it.

Ballot initiatives? If the squad types had it their way, everyone would vote online. You really think that's secure? Neither is vote by mail. Voting should be done in-person only.

The MAGA/Desantis wing of the new (non establishment / non Bush/McConnell types) conservative right is absolutely against BigDonor dirty money in politics. But it is undeniable that the left outspends the right in dirty money pretty much everywhere. Just in Michigan alone the Democrat incumbent governor, attorney general and secretary of state are outspending their Republican challengers nearly 10 to 1. And it's not just Michigan.

It was the old establishment guard of the GOP and not the MAGA wing that filibustered the drug price controls. The old establishment GOP wing is in bed with big pharma just as much as the Democrats are.

What "common sense reforms" are you talking about?

[Will Hunting]

Ballot initiatives? If the squad types had it their way, everyone would vote online. You really think that's secure? Neither is vote by mail. Voting should be done in-person only.
I'm not talking about that; I'm talking about being able to petition for things to be put directly on a state's ballot.


The MAGA/Desantis wing of the new (non establishment / non Bush/McConnell types) conservative right is absolutely against BigDonor dirty money in politics. But it is undeniable that the left outspends the right in dirty money pretty much everywhere. Just in Michigan alone the Democrat incumbent governor, attorney general and secretary of state are outspending their Republican challengers nearly 10 to 1. And it's not just Michigan.
The left gets more actual campaign money but you're ignoring how much more money the right has in super pacs and dark money groups.

The MAGA/DeSantis wing supports the same judges that the Bush wing does who think the Citizens United ruling is good law. DeSantis has literally set a record for most money fundraised ever for a non-federal election. What the fuck are you even talking about when you say DeSantis is against corporate money in politics?


It was the old establishment guard of the GOP and not the MAGA wing that filibustered the drug price controls. The old establishment GOP wing is in bed with big pharma just as much as the Democrats are.
This is just divorced from reality. Over 80% of the senate GOP caucus filibustered the cap on insulin copays while no Democrats did. The "Democrats are just as bad!" analysis isn't backed up by actual facts and voting records.


What "common sense reforms" are you talking about?
A public healthcare option, giving Medicare the ability to negotiate for lower drug prices, a federal ban on gerrymandering, federal standards for an early voting period, raising the minimum wage above the laughable level it's at right now and indexing it with inflation, etc.

[spurraider21]

still looking for a meaningful way that desantis isn't a total simp for corporate america unless you count the times where he goes out of his way to target specific corporations purely out of spite

[spurraider21]

:lmao of course

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[Winehole23]

ACKSHULLY, THAT'S TECNIKALLY EPHEBOPHILIA

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeazX6faUAEdokg?format=jpg&name=900x900

[spurraider21]

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[Winehole23]

1578514354030317568I thought the Arkie AG remained calm and composed, but the pauses were poignant. She's none too bright.

[BD24]

1578514354030317568
Jesus Christ :lol

you can tell that she regretted coming on/not being more prepared pretty fucking quickly tbh

[MultiTroll]

Hypocritical.

FOH Stewart with your pro tranny bullying.

[MultiTroll]

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100 truth bomb.