Report: Spurs Showing Interest in Myles Turner

[BatManu20]

I’ve always thought he’d be a target for the Spurs at some point tbh. This would obviously spell the end for Poeltl though.


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[BatManu20]

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[Robz4000]

Eh, I'd rather keep Poeltl, especially considering Turner is unrestricted after this season and will want way more than he's worth.

[Chinook]

The Spurs should be able to extend Turner, so contract isn't the problem. The issue will be paying what Indy would see as the difference between Turner and Poeltl. I might pay 20 for the swap, but 9 would be absurd, especially if they aren't taking McDermott back (which they'd be able to do when the year rolls over). Unless they're bringing in a PF that needs space, it would be weird. Hopefully they don't expect Jakob and Myles to play together.

[slick'81]

Why though?

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The Spurs should be able to extend Turner, so contract isn't the problem. The issue will be paying what Indy would see as the difference between Turner and Poeltl. I might pay 20 for the swap, but 9 would be absurd, especially if they aren't taking McDermott back (which they'd be able to do when the year rolls over). Unless they're bringing in a PF that needs space, it would be weird. Hopefully they don't expect Jakob and Myles to play together.

I can't imagine they would.

[Mr. Body]

He'd be an upgrade. Younger, I believe. Jakob corralled more rebounds last year (a significant jump in production for him generally) but Turner blocks more shots and is an outside threat. He's also not a charity case at the charity stripe.

I kind of doubt the interest is serious, though, and suspect it's due diligence and to drive the price up.

[Thomas82]

No thank you!!

[slick'81]

He'd be an upgrade. Younger, I believe. Jakob corralled more rebounds last year (a significant jump in production for him generally) but Turner blocks more shots and is an outside threat. He's also not a charity case at the charity stripe.

I kind of doubt the interest is serious, though, and suspect it's due diligence and to drive the price up.

they are literally the same age and other then outside shooting thats pretty much the only upgrade

[mo7888]

It seems to me that Evan Massey throws a lot of stuff against the wall and it rarely sticks..

[Mr. Body]

they are literally the same age and other then outside shooting thats pretty much the only upgrade

Jakob is older. And I said Turner blocks more shots and isn't terrible at the free throw line. So that's 0 fer 3 bro.

[slick'81]

Jakob is older. And I said Turner blocks more shots and isn't terrible at the free throw line. So that's 0 fer 3 bro.

meh,Myles is basically guaranteed to have one game where he looks like an all-NBA guy and one game where he completely disappears

[John B]

What’s up with the Spurs and rehabilitating players? I mean if healthy, he’ll be an obvious upgrade over Poeltl and still 26. It makes me wander if true, Spurs would push hard to move Poeltl and 20/25 or both to move up. Who are they targeting? Interesting…

[Truckules]

It seems to me that Evan Massey throws a lot of stuff against the wall and it rarely sticks..

Yep, I don't think there's anything here at all. I can't think of any major rumors he's reported that have turned out to be true.

[Leetonidas]

ehhh

[slick'81]

What’s up with the Spurs and rehabilitating players? I mean if healthy, he’ll be an obvious upgrade over Poeltl and still 26. It makes me wander if true, Spurs would push hard to move Poeltl and 20/25 or both to move up. Who are they targeting? Interesting…


i pretty sure spurs dont want to resign jakob at what he's gonna want

[rjv]

big men and foot problems=oil and water

[TD 21]

I wouldn't be concerned with being able to extend/re-sign him, I just don't see a trade that makes sense. Like the Spurs, they're in dire need of a PF though, so you know what that means? Time for Poeltl to the Hornets iteration 1042 . . .

Hornets receive: Poeltl, 25
Pacers receive: Washington Jr., Richardson (can reroute for more draft capital) 15 (M. Williams?)
Spurs receive: Turner

Of course, this would require the Hornets to prefer Poeltl to Turner (doubtful) and even then, it's likely not enough for the Pacers, but I wouldn't go beyond that.

[CGD]

It seems to me that Evan Massey throws a lot of stuff against the wall and it rarely sticks..

Agree. I thought this forum decried him as full of crap in the past.

Still I’ve always like Turner.

[slick'81]

If he can improve that 34% shooting from 3 maybe spurs can work with his offense

[Degoat]

Turner is better than Jakob, maybe Richardson +25 +38 would be enough. With them shopping Turner is Duren their target at 6?

[slick'81]

Great shot blocker,can hit the three. Not a good rebounder and has foot issues.Big contract coming up and a good modern day big. Still a role player we could use

[John B]

I wouldn't be concerned with being able to extend/re-sign him, I just don't see a trade that makes sense. Like the Spurs, they're in dire need of a PF though, so you know what that means? Time for Poeltl to the Hornets iteration 1042 . . .

Hornets receive: Poeltl, 25
Pacers receive: Washington Jr., Richardson (can reroute for more draft capital) 15 (M. Williams?)
Spurs receive: Turner

It's likely not enough for the Pacers, but I wouldn't go beyond that.

Hopefully pick 20 is enough to get an Eason.

Murray/Davis/Devin/Eason/Turner. Tell me if Spurs still have the worst future in their division.

[slick'81]

Hopefully pick 20 is enough to get an Eason.

Murray/Davis/Devin/Eason/Turner. Tell me if Spurs still have the worst future in their division.

not bad

[John B]

not bad

I doubt a mouse can find a hole on that wall :lol

Would’ve been nice if that were Sochan instead of Eason

[TD 21]

Hopefully pick 20 is enough to get an Eason.

Murray/Davis/Devin/Eason/Turner. Tell me if Spurs still have the worst future in their division.

Even if available, as I've said from the start Eason doesn't strike me as a Spur.

Yeah, easily. Turner is solid, but he's also a 26 year old role player, while Davis and Eason are unproven at this level and at minimum, the latter more than likely has a role player ceiling. He'd also have no chance to start over Johnson.

[RC_Drunkford]

I wouldn't mind it. The most important thing is that the Spurs have a better roster next season than last. They should show interest in all those players and see what they can get. Poeltl and Richardson are likely on the table, if they get a quality C and PF back for that they should improve

[exstatic]

Yet another team trying to offload their highly paid problem. Big men with foot problems are boat anchors.

[couchman]

There has been enough smoke now about the Center position to make me think the Spurs really are looking at their options to trade away Poeltl and perhaps draft his replacement.
This rumor supports that idea.
Turner isn't as good as Poeltl, but he would be a solid transition guy if we trade away Jakob and draft a C.

[John B]

Even if available, as I've said from the start Eason doesn't strike me as a Spur.

Yeah, easily. Turner is solid, but he's also a 26 year old role player, while Davis and Eason are unproven at this level and at minimum, the latter more than likely has a role player ceiling. He'd also have no chance to start over Johnson.

In the Money Ball, Billie Beane finally trade Giambi so the manager was forced to play his lineup. As much as I like Keldon, the guy is too small at PF and hurts the teams defense more. I rather Spurs move Keldon to get the right pieces tbh.

[Dverde]

I’d be fine signing him as a FA, but to give up assets and still overpay him seems too much for me. :lol at this talk of returning McNuggets to the Pacers store

[exstatic]

In the Money Ball, Billie Beane finally trade Giambi so the manager was forced to play his lineup. As much as I like Keldon, the guy is too small at PF and hurts the teams defense more. I rather Spurs move Keldon to get the right pieces tbh.

His defensive shortcomings are way over blown. He’s a net neutral player, 114 Ortg 114 Drtg, but more importantly, he’s the best goddamned shooter on the team, and the only one who can create space.

Oh, and Art Howe wasn’t President of the Oakland As baseball club. If he were, he would have fired Billy Bean.

[spurraider21]

i like Turner, but Poeltl was much improved this past season from a consistency standpoint... i'm much less inclined to pull the trigger than i would have been earlier. depends on the price, i guess.

[KingKev]

If you want Turner sign him outright the following off-season.

[Dex]

i like Turner, but Poeltl was much improved this past season from a consistency standpoint... i'm much less inclined to pull the trigger than i would have been earlier. depends on the price, i guess.

If Poeltl could become even a 60% FT shooter, he's be a great value next season. Beyond that...go get your bag somewhere else.

[gambit1990]

good.

[SAGirl]

I do believe the Spurs are looking for a big man who can shoot. Jakob is too limited offensively although he’s a good player, but I think they are looking for someone who can give their offense more. Interesting.

[SAGirl]

Also thinking usually when rumors get reported it’s something that didn’t go down but the interest was there. Maybe the Spurs inquired about him when they were considering Jakob trades mid season.

[Atl Spur]

If the spurs were truly interested we wouldn’t know…….

[John B]

If the spurs were truly interested we wouldn’t know…….

That’s good to know… or not

[Shohoku High]

No thanks. Missed 40 and 35 games the last 2 seasons due to ankle and foot injuries.

[poopbox]

Eh, I'd rather keep Poeltl, especially considering Turner is unrestricted after this season and will want way more than he's worth.

You mean like Jakob Poeltl? Or do you think he going to re-up for 9 million a year again?

[Robz4000]

You mean like Jakob Poeltl? Or do you think he going to re-up for 9 million a year again?

Poeltl at $15-18mil > Turner at $25-28mil

[John B]

Poeltl at $15-18mil > Turner at $25-28mil

Yup I like Poeltl getting dunk on by athletic bigs for 15-18mil. You buy a Kia, it’s what you get.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Yup I like Poeltl getting dunk on by athletic bigs for 15-18mil. You buy a Kia, it’s what you get.

if you are a tim duncan fan then you know there's no shame in getting dunked on. it's often a product of being *almost* in the right position to make a tough play

[John B]

if you are a tim duncan fan then you know there's no shame in getting dunked on. it's often a product of being *almost* in the right position to make a tough play

Getting dunked on trying to block is different. The best big men get dunk on. Poeltl gets dunked from behind, from overhelping, including lobs, not including getting overpowered by athletic bigs.

[poopbox]

Poeltl at $15-18mil > Turner at $25-28mil

If the spurs give Poeltl 18 million a year we need to burn the building down

[T Park]

In the Money Ball, Billie Beane finally trade Giambi so the manager was forced to play his lineup. As much as I like Keldon, the guy is too small at PF and hurts the teams defense more. I rather Spurs move Keldon to get the right pieces tbh.

He traded Carlos Peña, an all star first baseman and iirc rookie of the year candidate so hatteburg would play. Unfortunately John Mabry played a lot after they got him in a trade ��


Keldon is a good example, that said, he’s not blocking anyone that should be getting minutes instead.

[Russ]

Myles Turner is a really nice player and the type of player the Spurs desperately lack.

His stock appears low if the Pacers are trying to offload him, so it could be a buying opportunity (if the price is right).

[exstatic]

Myles Turner is a really nice player and the type of player the Spurs desperately lack.

His stock appears low if the Pacers are trying to offload him, so it could be a buying opportunity (if the price is right).
You don’t allow guys who have missed 70+ games the last two years to both clog your cap, and cost you assets. Myles was a thing like 4 years ago. Update your software.

[Russ]

You don’t allow guys who have missed 70+ games the last two years to both clog your cap, and cost you assets. Myles was a thing like 4 years ago. Update your software.

Good thing you're not GM of the Golden State Warriors. :)

[DPG21920]

Would you do:

SA Gets: Turner + Pick 6

Indy Gets: Jakob + Doug + Pick 9 + Picks 20 & 25

[slick'81]

Would you do:

SA Gets: Turner + Pick 6

Indy Gets: Jakob + Doug + Pick 9 + Picks 20 & 25

of course, but that would never happen

[mo7888]

Would you do:

SA Gets: Turner + Pick 6

Indy Gets: Jakob + Doug + Pick 9 + Picks 20 & 25

I wouldn't with turner's injury history

[DPG21920]

of course, but that would never happen


I wouldn't with turner's injury history

:lol The dichotomy of man

[slick'81]

:lol The dichotomy of man


dont worry dp one day one of your scenarios will work out:rollin

[DPG21920]

Im not worried - Im enjoying the Spurs and NBA

[slick'81]

Im not worried - Im enjoying the Spurs and NBA

we all are broski

[Robz4000]

Would you do:

SA Gets: Turner + Pick 6

Indy Gets: Jakob + Doug + Pick 9 + Picks 20 & 25

Not a chance tbh.

[Chomag]

Whats the fetish for players with feet problems?

[DPG21920]

Not a chance tbh.

You would not do it or you don’t think Indy would

[mo7888]

:lol The dichotomy of man

Basically I think Jak is worth more than Turner (because of availability).. I might do Jak + 9 for Turner + 6 but I wouldn't give much in the way of additional assets....

[Robz4000]

You would not do it or you don’t think Indy would

I wouldn't do it tbh. Indy might but it'd come down to who/what position they value most in this draft.

[lmbebo]

Would you do:

SA Gets: Turner + Pick 6

Indy Gets: Jakob + Doug + Pick 9 + Picks 20 & 25


I'd consider that but would like to keep pick 25 if possible.

[slick'81]

I'd consider that but would like to keep pick 25 if possible.


any chance to dump mcdermoot count me in

[T Park]

Would you do:

SA Gets: Turner + Pick 6

Indy Gets: Jakob + Doug + Pick 9 + Picks 20 & 25


No. Turner with constant foot problems means the Spurs have the advantage of negotiation. Someone else wants to overpay for him they can.

[DPG21920]

No. Turner with constant foot problems means the Spurs have the advantage of negotiation. Someone else wants to overpay for him they can.

The way I look at it is: If you would be ok with doing Jakob + Doug + 20, would you in a separate deal trade pick 9 and 25 to move up to 6?

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs should be all over the OG Anounoby trade. Something like Poeltl, Richardson and 25 would improve both teams. Spurs could then draft Duren or Williams. I think that would make way more sense than trading for Turner

[T Park]

Spurs should be all over the OG Anounoby trade. Something like Poeltl, Richardson and 25 would improve both teams. Spurs could then draft Duren or Williams. I think that would make way more sense than trading for Turner

If they trade for AG the 9 will have to be involved

[RC_Drunkford]

If they trade for AG the 9 will have to be involved

no. The report clearly states it would have to be a starting Center OR a top-10-pick, not both. Poeltl has high trade value as does OG. If you give them Poeltl plus a solid SG to come off the bench and a low first that‘s enough and makes them a better team than they are currently. That‘s the trade that improves both teams and since Poeltl already played for Toronto they could easily extend him and the Spurs would have done right by him

[lmbebo]

If they trade for AG the 9 will have to be involved


Only way I trade 9 is either for an earlier pick or unprotected 1sts in the future. And a good quality all-star caliber player.

[Russ]

Poeltl and #25, Indiana. Take it or leave it.

You get a serviceable center and a first round pick.

Otherwise, you're stuck with a FA Texas boy who is sentient enough to realize that Indianapolis is the literal end of the earth.

Good luck with that.

[BackHome]

no. The report clearly states it would have to be a starting Center OR a top-10-pick, not both. Poeltl has high trade value as does OG. If you give them Poeltl plus a solid SG to come off the bench and a low first that‘s enough and makes them a better team than they are currently. That‘s the trade that improves both teams and since Poeltl already played for Toronto they could easily extend him and the Spurs would have done right by him

Yeah I like this trade way better then getting Turner who has health issues is going to be a free agent and want double what Jakob probably will want

[RC_Drunkford]

Yeah I like this trade way better then getting Turner who has health issues is going to be a free agent and want double what Jakob probably will want

Spurs could then draft Duren. Trade McDermott for Danny Green and Sixers 23rd, package 20 + 23 to move up and grab Eason or Jalen Williams. Sign Sexton as a 6th man in free agency and you have nice young roster with a whole lot of upside

[T Park]

no. The report clearly states it would have to be a starting Center OR a top-10-pick, not both. Poeltl has high trade value as does OG. If you give them Poeltl plus a solid SG to come off the bench and a low first that‘s enough and makes them a better team than they are currently. That‘s the trade that improves both teams and since Poeltl already played for Toronto they could easily extend him and the Spurs would have done right by him

If you can get Him for Poeltl Richardson and the 25, then wtf are we waiting for

[tim_duncan_fan]

we all are broski

Meh. Call travels, bring back handchecks and perimeter defense, and get rid of "superstar" calls then maybe.

[exstatic]

If they trade for AG the 9 will have to be involved

Not if Poeltl is in the deal. It’s not like OG is an all Star.

[callo1]

Rather see the Spurs get a 4 that can get some weak-side blocks.

[RLT]

Yall are sleeping on Zach Collins.

[BatManu20]

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[mo7888]

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I'm not sure if Brogdon is a net positive or negative but I could see us being interested in him to put beside DJ and there being a swap of 6 and 9...not sure what the rest of that would look like..

[Dverde]

Brogden seems like a Spurs type of player. Still 3 years for 66M is a tough pill to swallow. I can’t see them taking that on for another guard.

[mo7888]

Brogden seems like a Spurs type of player. Still 3 years for 66M is a tough pill to swallow. I can’t see them taking that on for another guard.

$22M a year is basically Doug + Richardson... if send them out we still have enough room (or are close enough to make room) for a max player.

[DAF86]

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Damn, two players I've always wanted on the Spurs. Not sure how valuable they are now, though.

Brogdon and Turner, for Poeltl, McDermott and Richardson works. But who needs to add assets on that trade? One might think the Spurs, but the NBA trade machine says that the Spurs lose 10 W's and the Pacers gain 10 with this trade.

However, I might be willing to give up 25 in said scenario. If Brogdon and Turner can stay healthy and produce like they can, we would be adding two talented young players that fit the timeline.

Murray, Brogdon, Vassell, KJ, Turner

Jones, Primo, Walker, KBD/Landale, Collins

And whomever we draft with 9 and 20. Mathurin, Keegan, Sochan, Duren, Williams, etc.

[mo7888]

Damn, two players I've always wanted on the Spurs. Not sure how valuable they are now, though.

Brogdon and Turner, for Poeltl, McDermott and Richardson works. But who needs to add assets on that trade? One might think the Spurs, but the NBA trade machine says that the Spurs lose 10 W's and the Pacers gain 10 with this trade.

However, I might be willing to give up 25 in said scenario. If Brogdon and Turner can stay healthy and produce like they can, we would be adding two talented young players that fit the timeline.

Murray, Brogdon, Vassell, KJ, Turner

Jones, Primo, Walker, KBD/Landale, Collins

And whomever we draft with 9 and 20. Mathurin, Keegan, Sochan, Duren, Williams, etc.

TradeNBA has it at 1 net loss for us and 1 net gain for them.

I'm not a fan of Turner because of his foot issues but if we could swap 6 for 9 and add a Mathurin or Keegan I'd be all over it.

[RC_Drunkford]

Damn, two players I've always wanted on the Spurs. Not sure how valuable they are now, though.

Brogdon and Turner, for Poeltl, McDermott and Richardson works. But who needs to add assets on that trade? One might think the Spurs, but the NBA trade machine says that the Spurs lose 10 W's and the Pacers gain 10 with this trade.

However, I might be willing to give up 25 in said scenario. If Brogdon and Turner can stay healthy and produce like they can, we would be adding two talented young players that fit the timeline.

Murray, Brogdon, Vassell, KJ, Turner

Jones, Primo, Walker, KBD/Landale, Collins

And whomever we draft with 9 and 20. Mathurin, Keegan, Sochan, Duren, Williams, etc.

that doesn't make sense. What does a rebuilding team like the Pacers gain by trading for Poeltl, J-Rich and McDermott? They could flip the first 2 for more assets at the deadline, but that's about it. If that deal went down I'd immediately make it a 3 team trade and move Brogdon to Atlanta for John Collins. The Hawks will take that deal in a heartbeat

[KingKev]

that doesn't make sense. What does a rebuilding team like the Pacers gain by trading for Poeltl, J-Rich and McDermott? They could flip the first 2 for more assets at the deadline, but that's about it. If that deal went down I'd immediately make it a 3 team trade and move Brogdon to Atlanta for John Collins. The Hawks will take that deal in a heartbeat

Here at Spurstalk we build 1 way hypothetical trades.

I don’t think Myles is going anywhere. He is in play but only for the right deal. Not our junk.

[DAF86]

that doesn't make sense. What does a rebuilding team like the Pacers gain by trading for Poeltl, J-Rich and McDermott? They could flip the first 2 for more assets at the deadline, but that's about it. If that deal went down I'd immediately make it a 3 team trade and move Brogdon to Atlanta for John Collins. The Hawks will take that deal in a heartbeat

What is the best the Pacers could realistically get for Brogdon and Turner? A first rounder + filler for each? It is not too different from what they would be getting from the Spurs. If anything, the Spurs return might be a little better: a first rounder, Poeltl who can easily be transformed into another first, and Richardson, who, if keeps playing well, might net them a first too.

The only "bad" return is McDermott, but he is needed to make the salaries work. You can always cut him, or even see if anyone is willing to give up a second for him.

[Dverde]

I could see a three way trade with Spurs, Pacers, Raptors where basically Indy gets OG, Josh Richardson, Spurs get Brogden and #6, Raptors get Turner and #9.

[SAGirl]

They are resetting the clock on their rebuild. Going nowhere with current crew, selling off their best assets. Turner likely tempers down any potential Jakob suitors.

I think Indiana wants draft assets in that case, so trading McDermott Richardson and surplus isn't going to be interesting for Indiana without a pick, depending on what the Spurs send back.

[RC_Drunkford]

What is the best the Pacers could realistically get for Brogdon and Turner? A first rounder + filler for each? It is not too different from what they would be getting from the Spurs. If anything, the Spurs return might be a little better: a first rounder, Poeltl who can easily be transformed into another first, and Richardson, who, if keeps playing well, might net them a first too.

The only "bad" return is McDermott, but he is needed to make the salaries work. You can always cut him, or even see if anyone is willing to give up a second for him.

depends on what they want. Hornets, Wizards, Blazers, Hawks and Raptors should be interested as well as Utah, Dallas and Phoenix. If the Pacers do it I'd be all for it. Would still try to flip Brogdon for John Collins though. 3 or 4 team trade between Pacers, Spurs, Hawks and Raptors makes the most sense.

[Atl Spur]

Don’t need……sign smith as a free agent