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timvp
06-24-2022, 01:20 AM
https://www.spurstalk.com/blake-wesley-san-antonio-spurs-2022-nba-draft/

After Sochan at 9 and Branham at 20, Wesley was who I was hoping for at 25. I must be dreaming because this isn't supposed to happen on draft day as a Spurs fan. :lol

BatManu20
06-24-2022, 01:23 AM
Love the pick. High upside swing and that’s exactly what you want at that point in the draft. Wesley’s a much better defender than Lonnie ever was and is still a great athlete. I think he has a chance to be a good player for us if Chip can help tweak that jump-shot. Great pick at 25 imo.


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BG_Spurs_Fan
06-24-2022, 01:26 AM
Wesley's and Ivey's freshman seasons stats look incredibly similar. Let's hope our guy can improve the same way Ivey has. There's certainly a lot to like.

timvp
06-24-2022, 01:29 AM
Wesley's and Ivey's freshman seasons stats look incredibly similar. Let's hope our guy can improve the same way Ivey has. There's certainly a lot to like.

Good comparison. Ivey and Wesley were the two best one-on-one "separators" in the draft. Ivey is obviously a much superior talent -- but, as you indicated, he was a sophomore and Wesley was a freshman.

Ariel
06-24-2022, 01:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DE0AjB9lc8
Seems like a level headed kid. I like him all around.

BG_Spurs_Fan
06-24-2022, 01:33 AM
Yeah Ivey's elite athleticism makes his ceiling higher, but overall their games are similar and a lot will depend on how their shooting improves. I actually kinda like Wesley's shooting form a little bit more but Ivey's has been going in his second season, so he's more proven. Still, even a discount Ivey would be good value at 25.

Mr. Body
06-24-2022, 01:37 AM
I think we're both underselling and overselling Wesley in a way. I don't think he's necessarily boom-or-bust, and he doesn't have to be a home run. Like Johnny Davis, he was required to do almost everything for Notre Dame. He was doing this as a freshman while Davis was a sophomore.

Honestly, I'm kind of puzzled why the whole draft slept on Wesley. He has fantastic tools, including great athleticism and he appears to be a gamer. While he doesn't have Ivey's A++ athleticism, he still is very similar, and it's not hard to imagine he'd make a similar leap in his sophomore year.

This was a fantastic pick and I think teams will regret futzing around with the likes of Jake LaRavia and Christain Braun.

BatManu20
06-24-2022, 01:38 AM
Avery Johnson and the CBS crew give it an A- grade. Not that we should give a shit what they think necessarily. But they think it’s a steal. So did Jay Bilas when we selected him.


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John B
06-24-2022, 01:38 AM
Looking how it has unfolded.

Defensive PF - Sochan Check
Go-To scorer - Malakai? Maybe
Point-of-attack defender - ?
On-man defensive C - ?

Looking how the teams picked. I think I would’ve gotten:

Davis - 9 point of attack defender, go-to scorer, All-Star upside
Liddell - 38 PF strong shot blocker and go-to scorer

23-25 I could have used to get Duren or Williams.

Uriel
06-24-2022, 02:06 AM
Notre Dame’s season turned around when Wesley was moved to the starting lineup. They went from having a losing record to being tied for the 2nd best record in the ACC.

mo7888
06-24-2022, 08:05 AM
Looking how it has unfolded.

Defensive PF - Sochan Check
Go-To scorer - Malakai? Maybe
Point-of-attack defender - ?
On-man defensive C - ?

Looking how the teams picked. I think I would’ve gotten:

Davis - 9 point of attack defender, go-to scorer, All-Star upside
Liddell - 38 PF strong shot blocker and go-to scorer

23-25 I could have used to get Duren or Williams.

I'm a little ambivalent on the Sochan pick...he, Duren, or Davis would have been fine with me but he is the better fit. I really like our next two picks but I absolutely would have taken Liddell at 38 instead of cash and had him replace KBD on the roster.

Mugen
06-24-2022, 09:35 AM
Great pick @ 25 tbh. He's a kid that I actually wouldn't mind being down in G League for most of the year. Branham and Sochan (obv) should be with the main squad though.

Atl Spur
06-24-2022, 10:11 AM
Sochan is so much more than a defender; in my opinion Davis & branham have a similar trajectory. Blake might become your Ja morant lite type ( I’ll give him a few to develop first but I like the kid )

exstatic
06-24-2022, 10:15 AM
Yeah Ivey's elite athleticism makes his ceiling higher, but overall their games are similar and a lot will depend on how their shooting improves. I actually kinda like Wesley's shooting form a little bit more but Ivey's has been going in his second season, so he's more proven. Still, even a discount Ivey would be good value at 25.

Lonnie had elite athleticism. It's not a guarantee of anything other than jumping high and running fast.

exstatic
06-24-2022, 10:17 AM
Looking how it has unfolded.

Defensive PF - Sochan Check
Go-To scorer - Malakai? Maybe
Point-of-attack defender - ?
On-man defensive C - ?

Looking how the teams picked. I think I would’ve gotten:

Davis - 9 point of attack defender, go-to scorer, All-Star upside
Liddell - 38 PF strong shot blocker and go-to scorer

23-25 I could have used to get Duren or Williams.

20 and 25 wouldn't get you to the place needed to draft Duren or Willams.

John B
06-24-2022, 10:37 AM
20 and 25 wouldn't get you to the place needed to draft Duren or Willams.

This is the cost for Duren:

2025 1st pick, 9 mil Walker buyout, a 10-pick swap in last night 2nd round

So the Pistons essentially traded Jerami Grant for the 13th pick (Jalen Duren), a 10-pick swap upgrade in 2nd round tonight and Kemba Walker's (owed 9 mil in final year of his deal)

You think the Spurs couldn’t have done better?

BackHome
06-24-2022, 10:43 AM
Great pick @ 25 tbh. He's a kid that I actually wouldn't mind being down in G League for most of the year. Branham and Sochan (obv) should be with the main squad though.

You know all 3 will be in Austin at least until trade dead line where we can move some older players for future picks. But all 3 will still get some playing time with the big club but Sochan will get the most.

John B
06-24-2022, 10:46 AM
I really like Sochan, no question there. I think he brings a defensive swagger the Spurs are missing. Malaki and Blake are fine and I’m hoping one of them would be an offensive stud plus lockdown defender with their long wingspan. I hate the high second round pick 38th trade for future 2nd round with Memphis, potentially low 2nd round. I would’ve rather taken Liddle, another tough scoring PF or Kamagate as stash.

I just couldn’t get over Davis at 10. Man, that kid goes to battle and shibes in brighter lighter lights. Knowing I could’ve paired him with Liddle and possibly Duren.

drpill
06-24-2022, 10:57 AM
Wesley was a very good pick, position overload be damned. He may not be a key part of the roster in year one but I think he will develop into something special. Hopefully he turns into that guy who can check the elite small guards who give the Spurs so much trouble, while also being a handful himself on the offensive end.

exstatic
06-24-2022, 11:01 AM
This is the cost for Duren:

2025 1st pick, 9 mil Walker buyout, a 10-pick swap in last night 2nd round

So the Pistons essentially traded Jerami Grant for the 13th pick (Jalen Duren), a 10-pick swap upgrade in 2nd round tonight and Kemba Walker's (owed 9 mil in final year of his deal)

You think the Spurs couldn’t have done better?

Detroit traded a future pick in a "hot" draft, 2023, plus four second rounders. Spurs were never going to trade a future asset for ANOTHER FRP in this draft, and what they had in hand was not good enough to jump up to 13.

Duren was my guy, but I'm fine with Sochan, who was my second choice. There will probably be another Duren who will come along next year.

Trill Clinton
06-24-2022, 11:09 AM
I was surprised to see Ivey and Wesley grew up together. Their play styles are very similar.

John B
06-24-2022, 11:20 AM
Detroit traded a future pick in a "hot" draft, 2023, plus four second rounders. Spurs were never going to trade a future asset for ANOTHER FRP in this draft, and what they had in hand was not good enough to jump up to 13.

Duren was my guy, but I'm fine with Sochan, who was my second choice. There will probably be another Duren who will come along next year.

The four second round picks are coming from New York.

Easily Spurs could’ve beaten that 10-pick 2nd round with either 20 or 25. 9 mil for Kemba and future 1st round.

Sochan, either Malaki/Wesley and Duren would have been awesome. And yeah, Liddell at 38.
I just feel it’s missed opportunity.

John B
06-24-2022, 11:21 AM
^ and it was 2025 from Portland, not 2023

Mr. Body
06-24-2022, 12:24 PM
Detroit traded a future pick in a "hot" draft, 2023, plus four second rounders. Spurs were never going to trade a future asset for ANOTHER FRP in this draft, and what they had in hand was not good enough to jump up to 13.

Duren was my guy, but I'm fine with Sochan, who was my second choice. There will probably be another Duren who will come along next year.

This is also assuming the Spurs, or anyone else, had any idea Charlotte was doing this. It's not like they make these trades on conference call.

emanueldavidginobili
06-24-2022, 12:43 PM
John Hollinger said he would have selected him at 11. At the draft they said the only more athletic player than Wesley was Ivey. You can tell he has a much better feel for the game than Lonnie does, probably even now with 4 years of NBA experience under his belt.

John B
06-24-2022, 01:22 PM
John Hollinger said he would have selected him at 11. At the draft they said the only more athletic player than Wesley was Ivey. You can tell he has a much better feel for the game than Lonnie does, probably even now with 4 years of NBA experience under his belt.

Son of a bitch, I’m in.

siraulo23
06-24-2022, 01:31 PM
excited for summer league

rjv
06-24-2022, 01:44 PM
Lonnie had elite athleticism. It's not a guarantee of anything other than jumping high and running fast.

exactly. what matters is controlled athleticism.

John B
06-24-2022, 03:00 PM
Antonio Daniels, Pops Mensah-Bonsu, Jonathon Simmons, Lonnie Walker, Romeo Langford, Blake Wesley. Am I missing anyone?

cjw
06-24-2022, 07:33 PM
When you’re a rebuilding team, you always draft BPA regardless of position (unless there is a huge clash with an existing guy on your roster … in which case you question if they’re the BPA or if that guy belongs on your roster).

Saying “we should have taken another big at that spot” is a sure fire way to stay mediocre.

exstatic
06-24-2022, 07:40 PM
Antonio Daniels, Pops Mensah-Bonsu, Jonathon Simmons, Lonnie Walker, Romeo Langford, Blake Wesley. Am I missing anyone?

You can’t really put Blake in there. He hasn’t had his chance yet. According to timvp, the two best guards in this draft at creating space and separation in the half court were Ivey and Wesley. Wesley’s numbers were very similar to Ivey’s freshman numbers.

John B
06-24-2022, 07:53 PM
You can’t really put Blake in there. He hasn’t had his chance yet. According to timvp, the two best guards in this draft at creating space and separation in the half court were Ivey and Wesley. Wesley’s numbers were very similar to Ivey’s freshman numbers.

Nah, I’m just saying these were the Spurs athletic freaks in the past. I mean besides DRob and to some extent Kawhi, I haven’t really seen anyone coming from the Spurs. Three from Dunk Contest, 1988 Cadillac Anderson (don’t remember that), 1986 Johnny Dawkins (wasn’t Spurs fan yet), 1984 Edward Jones (before me). Spurs are not known for dunkers.

John B
06-24-2022, 07:57 PM
You can’t really put Blake in there. He hasn’t had his chance yet. According to timvp, the two best guards in this draft at creating space and separation in the half court were Ivey and Wesley. Wesley’s numbers were very similar to Ivey’s freshman numbers.

But I’m really excited for Wesley, all 3 picks. I didn’t get my boy. But Sochan could be special. I’m just learning his PG roles in some games. The coaching staff should really maximize that, ala Simmons, LeBron, mobile bigs

exstatic
06-24-2022, 08:37 PM
But I’m really excited for Wesley, all 3 picks. I didn’t get my boy. But Sochan could be special. I’m just learning his PG roles in some games. The coaching staff should really maximize that, ala Simmons, LeBron, mobile bigs

One of the things the spurs always want and look for are secondary creators.

Dejounte
06-24-2022, 08:37 PM
In Wright’s interview, he called Wesley “a combo guard and can play the 1 and the 2”

so I’m switching him from G/W to just G.

Dont think ive heard Wright or others refer to Primo as a combo guard.

for now, I think it’s Wesley who will be competing with Tre for that backup point job.

Cardinal
06-24-2022, 08:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTjb6AWo-c8

widowmaker
06-24-2022, 08:45 PM
John Hollinger said he would have selected him at 11. At the draft they said the only more athletic player than Wesley was Ivey. You can tell he has a much better feel for the game than Lonnie does, probably even now with 4 years of NBA experience under his belt.

Every time I see loonie check in he looks petrified to be on the court and I see him dribble around and pass or dribble around and shoot a long 2 he rarely moves without the ball, doesn’t cut to the basket, rarely creates anything for himself. He might go on a hot streak every other game but it might be time for him to move on and see if he can find his spot on another team.

exstatic
06-24-2022, 08:57 PM
John Hollinger said he would have selected him at 11. At the draft they said the only more athletic player than Wesley was Ivey. You can tell he has a much better feel for the game than Lonnie does, probably even now with 4 years of NBA experience under his belt.

Dean on draft had him at 5.

Ice009
06-25-2022, 07:16 AM
I was surprised to see Ivey and Wesley grew up together. Their play styles are very similar.

Darn, didn't know this. This is really cool to know. Makes me more excited about the pick and his potential as I really like that style of game. Anywhere I can read about this, or any videos where he states that he grew up with Ivey?

Trill Clinton
06-25-2022, 08:15 AM
Darn, didn't know this. This is really cool to know. Makes me more excited about the pick and his potential as I really like that style of game. Anywhere I can read about this, or any videos where he states that he grew up with Ivey?

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/notre-dame/2022/06/02/purdues-jaden-ivey-notre-dames-blake-wesley-headed-nba-draft/9928276002/

emanueldavidginobili
06-25-2022, 01:16 PM
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