Shams: Lonnie Walker IV Signs with the Lakers, one year at $6.5 million

[timvp]

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Walker basically got his qualifying offer -- but from the Lakers.

Good luck, LW4 :tu

[Mr. Body]

Not bad for a team that looked stuck in mud last year, old and decrepit.

[LkrFan]

1542645048059351040

Walker basically got his qualifying offer -- but from the Lakers.

Good luck, LW4 :tu
Is he any good?

[Texas_Ranger]

he can be their malik monk

[KingKev]

Monk replacement.

[poopbox]

Good riddance but Walker shitting on the spurs in a lakers jersey might be the most nuclear level event this site has every experienced tbh :lol

[Leetonidas]

Is he any good?

Once every 4 or 5 games yeah

[spurraider21]

Is he any good?
probably your best shooting guard since jerry west tbh

[BatManu20]

Figures.

[tonight...you]

Is he any good?
Right about Malik Monk level.
Maybe less efficient.

[BatManu20]

Is he any good?

At dunking, yes. Really athletic. Streaky from 3 but when he’s hot he can score in bunches.

Horrible defender though. Just all around. Will drive you crazy on that end.

[LkrFan]

probably your best shooting guard since jerry west tbh

:lol

[Mugen]

Good for him tbh. He has a chance to put up some numbers with LA and get a Monk type deal next offseason.

Laker fan going to watch his highlights right now and think he's the next coming...then realize those performances happen about once every 20 games :lol

[BatManu20]

Right about Malik Monk level.
Maybe less efficient.

Monk is definitely better.

[GB20]

Once every 4 or 5 games yeah
This is why I gave up on Lonnie, he is so inconsistent. He has so much talent but he has to be more consistent.

[timtonymanu]

Is he any good?

He’s meh. Probably our least valuable asset if the young guys that left

[tonight...you]

Monk is definitely better.
Yeah. The main weakness about Lonnie is that the Game doesn't come to him.
He hesitates on both sides of the court in almost all situations.
He can be good. He really can be good, but he's his own worst enemy and he can't shake it.

I'm glad the Lakers signed him.

[offset formation]

Is he any good?

He'll be a fan favorite because he's gonna have unbelievably athletic plays and knock down threes in bunches from time to time. But he'll disappear on you as well. He'll badically be your new 6th man and stay on the floor in 4th quarters where he's playing well.

[RC_Drunkford]

:lol

can jump out the gym, but settles for a finger roll which he most likely misses. Him and Westbrook together on the court will be must-see TV. They gon build a couple houses

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Weird that it's a single year contract instead of a 1+1.

[slick'81]

Gl lonnie

[baseline bum]

Is he any good?

No

[baseline bum]

probably your best shooting guard since jerry west tbh

Seriously, probably the best 2-guard on the Lakers since Eddie Jones.

[tonight...you]

Seriously, probably the best 2-guard on the Lakers since Eddie Jones.
Kobe who?
Lol, Black Mamba... we got the Black Charmin now bitch!

[LkrFan]

No

can jump out the gym, but settles for a finger roll which he most likely misses. Him and Westbrook together on the court will be must-see TV. They gon build a couple houses

:cry

[tonight...you]

:cry
I have such a love/hate with your avi.

You are such a bastard.

[JeffDuncan]

Is he any good?


Lonnie is very fast. Wonderful motor. Agile, very good dexterity Excellent shooting form. Physically he’s first rate. Good passer, good dribbler.

But he’s easily distracted, and easily discouraged. Sort of childlike. Probably best to take a firm but gentle approach with him, and don’t over complicate things. What you get from Lonnie may depend a lot on how he’s coached.

[SpurSpike]

I think Lonnie puts it together this year and has a good efficient year.

[ginobilized]

If Westbrook stays in LA, he might either make or break Lonnie in practice.
If LWIV could get some of the toughness that Westbrook has, he might stick in the league.

Wishing him the best!

[The Gemini Method]

:cry

Ernesto! We stackedddddddd :cry

[baseline bum]

:cry

Honestly a pretty big downgrade from Malik Monk. But I don't blame Monk walking when Sacramento offered him a 2 year, $19 million deal.

[Russ]

So maybe the Spurs weren't trying to clear cap space by renouncing Lonnie -- just trying to do him a favor?

Sometimes the most mundane explanations are the correct ones.

[tonight...you]

I think Lonnie puts it together this year and has a good efficient year.
I dunno. They hired Darvin Ham as his coach.
Not Dantoni who says just go out there and let it fly with no repercussions.
Ham likes structure and is demanding.

Lonnie stays in his head-asylum, I think.

[BatManu20]

Life comes fast.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWiYCrZXwAQkImH?format=jpg&name=small

[widowmaker]

Good join the rest of the PUSSIES just like you. Lakers are gonna have another losing season. Win win.

[widowmaker]

Lonnie is very fast. Wonderful motor. Agile, very good dexterity Excellent shooting form. Physically he’s first rate. Good passer, good dribbler.

But he’s easily distracted, and easily discouraged. Sort of childlike. Probably best to take a firm but gentle approach with him, and don’t over complicate things. What you get from Lonnie may depend a lot on how he’s coached.


I got one word for all his negativities WEAK. Thats good to go to the Lakers they didn’t move the needle to do anything either. Maybe lonnie just wants to see what LA is all about

[FkLA]

Is he any good?


https://youtu.be/HdPAYji3PuI

[BWS-1994]

I have such a love/hate with your avi.

You are such a bastard.

That’s been his avatar for so long.

[the golden era]

We called this during the season, at least I know I did. It was always going to be his best play to join Lebron and have a Monk type season then grab a bag after. I know everyone is saying he is not as good as Monk right now, which is correct, but this kid has probably lived in the gym since the Monday following end of season. It has never been about ability and talent with him, which is the one reason I would be worried about the pressure of the LA market playing with LBJ. It’s all between the ears with this kid. If he has been addressing his mental fortitude along with his body, he could have a breakout year with Bron. I really like the kid and will be rooting for him.

[KingKev]

Is he any good?

Poor man’s Shannon Brown.

[jjspur]

I predicted that a week ago. Not sorry that he's gone though. It opens up time for one of the two guards we drafted. The writing was one the wall.

[Chomag]

Watch him light us up now....

[cd98]

He'll be good on that Laker team. Lots of open shots from LeBron. Especially if AD plays more than 30 games.

[baseline bum]

Watch him light us up now....

I hope so. We tanking.

[playbonner15]

Poor man’s Shannon Brown.
Thought he's a better Shannon Brown tbh

[tonight...you]

He'll be good on that Laker team. Lots of open shots from LeBron. Especially if AD plays more than 30 games.
He'll hesitantly pump-fake, jab-step and then shoot a rimmer.
Maybe drive into the teeth and drop an awkward lay-in that goes somewhere while avoiding contact.

[KingKev]

Steps out of bounds often.

[playbonner15]

Cant wait for him to posterize Poeltl & Sochan :hungry:

[John B]

Life comes fast.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWiYCrZXwAQkImH?format=jpg&name=small

That's 3 years in a row

[John B]

Damn I said I was gonna root for LW4, but with the Fakers? Fck! :bang

I thought Celtics was also high on him. And I see the Celtics inquiring on Keldon. WTF?

[spurs1990]

Makes Lakers games imminently more watchable. Either James/Davis/Westbrick lose or Walker plays a role in a win.

[poopbox]

Life comes fast.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWiYCrZXwAQkImH?format=jpg&name=small
Remember when this was our future :cry

[Dex]

Remember when this was our future :cry

This was never our future, because a team of three fucking guards with the same skillset doesn't work.

Don't get me wrong. Love all three of the guys, wish them the best.

But to be honest, I am tired of PATFO building a stable of like 8 guards, then wondering why we can't compete with the longer and larger teams in the league.

Considering our legacy was built on THE BEST PF EVER....maybe finding another PF is a good idea. Hopefully this draft is a step in the right direction...but then we went and brought in a bunch more guards.

[rankingtear]

This was never our future, because a team of three fucking guards with the same skillset doesn't work.

Don't get me wrong. Love all three of the guys, wish them the best.

But to be honest, I am tired of PATFO building a stable of like 8 guards, then wondering why we can't compete with the longer and larger teams in the league.

Considering our legacy was built on THE BEST PF EVER....maybe finding another PF is a good idea. Hopefully this draft is a step in the right direction...but then we went and brought in a bunch more guards.

Nobody knows what a PF is anymore.

[RC_Drunkford]

Nobody knows what a PF is anymore.

in before Chinook says Keldon is a PF

[KingKev]

Nobody knows what a PF is anymore.

More importantly what does Keldon identify as? I think he is position neutral. Not quite a PF not quite a SF but open to experiment as both which Pop fully supports.

[Dex]

Nobody knows what a PF is anymore.

Apparently Pop thinks Keldon is a PF, and I don't have the heart to give him the bad news...

[RC_Drunkford]

More importantly what does Keldon identify as? I think he is position neutral. Not quite a PF not quite a SF but open to experiment as both which Pop fully supports.

I'd say a taller PF who can somewhat protect the rim and play small ball 5. Those type of guys are rare

[KingKev]

I'd say a taller PF who can somewhat protect the rim and play small ball 5. Those type of guys are rare

Haha i was actually just clowning regarding how “he identifies”

position fluid, open to experiment, woke Pop supports his rights etc.

[Dex]

Seriously though...did the Lakers just spend their MLE on Lonnie Walker on the first day of FA?

Is that their big move?

[KingKev]

Seriously though...did the Lakers just spend their MLE on Lonnie Walker on the first day of FA?

Is that their big move?

Yeah it is. They only have the tax payer MLE. Virtually no strings left to pull.

[poopbox]

in before Chinook says Keldon is a PF

Don't forget Hayward is a power forward who literally gets ran out of town because the team has a better power forward and only ever made an all star as a small forward :lol

[offset formation]

Apparently Pop thinks Keldon is a PF, and I don't have the heart to give him the bad news...

He thinks Primo is a PG too. Pop's gettin' loopy in his old age.

[poopbox]

This was never our future, because a team of three fucking guards with the same skillset doesn't work.

Don't get me wrong. Love all three of the guys, wish them the best.

But to be honest, I am tired of PATFO building a stable of like 8 guards, then wondering why we can't compete with the longer and larger teams in the league.



Considering our legacy was built on THE BEST PF EVER....maybe finding another PF is a good idea. Hopefully this draft is a step in the right direction...but then we went and brought in a bunch more guards.


I don't disagree but if you are tired of the spurs drafting guards then I got some bad news for you :rollin

Can I interest you in the Orlando Magic? Between Carter, Isaac, Bamba, Wagner, and Banchero they have a team full of centers and power forwards?

[Dex]

He thinks Primo is a PG too. Pop's gettin' loopy in his old age.

6"6 guys can learn to pass and lead an offense.

6"6 guys can't learn to be 6"10.

That is the difference.

[Dex]

I don't disagree but if you are tired of the spurs drafting guards then I got some bad news for you :rollin

Can I interest you in the Orlando Magic? Between Carter, Isaac, Bamba, Wagner, and Banchero they have a team full of centers and power forwards?

Maybe you should build a team with a solid mix of PG/SG/SF/PF/C?

I know it's a crazy idea...but it just MIGHT work

[Robz4000]

Welp, can't root for Lonnie now.

[Robz4000]

Is he any good?

:lol y'all might fall in love with him but won't have the cap space to keep him

[cutewizard]

:fro

[LkrFan]

:lol y'all might fall in love with him but won't have the cap space to keep him
:lol

[LkrFan]

Ernesto! We stackedddddddd :cry

:lol

[daslicer]

Is he any good?

You got poor man's Dwyane Wade.

[LkrFan]

Lonnie is very fast. Wonderful motor. Agile, very good dexterity Excellent shooting form. Physically he’s first rate. Good passer, good dribbler.

But he’s easily distracted, and easily discouraged. Sort of childlike. Probably best to take a firm but gentle approach with him, and don’t over complicate things. What you get from Lonnie may depend a lot on how he’s coached.

Good stuff. Hopefully he's a late bloomer and the Kang can take him under his wing. :tu

[MarCowMar]

The ideal situation for Lonni is a low pressure environment where he can fuck up a lot, learn to play basketball, and develop the mental agility to use his amazing skillset.

If you have a lot of minutes and patience with him, maybe he'll figure it out in LA.

[lefty]

https://twitter.com/tim_nba/status/1542659389957488640

[lmbebo]

https://twitter.com/tim_nba/status/1542659389957488640

Does that mean he'll be one of the better defensive players on the lakers?

[ducks]

I think he choke
Lots of pressure in la and James

[Rocalcio]

I guess that means Langford is staying.

[illusioNtEk]

LW will shine with the Lakers

[mystargtr34]

Damn this Cranjis McBasketball account has some really great analytics. And he's dedicated the last 6 hours of his twitter account to analyse how shitty of a basketball player Lonnie Walker is.

[Fireball]

if I had known he was accepting one year offers I would have liked to keep him with the Spurs ... a now veteran to steer the tank

[John B]

Lonnie would wow the shallow Fakers crowd with his nasty dunks. He could be a crowd pleaser.

[exstatic]

Is he any good?

Awful on defense, shot the 3 ball well his first 3 seasons but not last year, hesitant, timid. You’ll love the highlight dunks.

[stephen jackson]

How many times did he dunk like 10?

[mystargtr34]

Funny part about Lonnie is for all his athleticism he never really dunked on anybody or in traffic. He had a few highlight reel dunks on fast breaks or where the lane opened up. Shied away from the contact and didn’t have the body to go through people.

[KingKev]

Constantly talks about improving his game and needing to get better but never actually does.

[8FOR!3]

Even if he didn't crack the rotation to start the season I would've probably gave him the 6.5 mil just bc age is still on his side and it fits the rebuild.

[KingKev]

Everyone wins here… cept the Lakers so we win double.

[kobyz]

LeBron found his new JR Smith

[Maddog]

I guess that means Langford is staying.

Maybe
I could easily see him as a throw in a future trade

[KingKev]

LeBron found his new JR Smith


Haha was just thinking that. Poor man’s JR Smith. Looking forward to nationally televised LBJ death stares after Walker steps out of bounds or leaves his feet and turns the ball over.

[Ice009]

You'll get a defensive wizard that competes his ass off ;).

[Ice009]

Also, make sure you have him guard Kawhi Leonard. That's the key to success.

[John B]

Awful on defense, shot the 3 ball well his first 3 seasons but not last year, hesitant, timid. You’ll love the highlight dunks.

Lonnie could fit well as an entertainer in LA. Sometimes it’s where you play.

[KingKev]

Also, make sure you have him guard Kawhi Leonard. That's the key to success.

Walker and Russ the new wing stop!!!!

[spurs10]

Nice $6.5 million payday, more than most people earn in a lifetime, and a chance to prove himself for an even bigger payday. Lonnie is a very rich young man.

[RC_Drunkford]

I guess at the end of the day, Lonnie was just not a culture fit

[exstatic]

Maybe
I could easily see him as a throw in a future trade

This. I don’t see them actively trying to move him, but he’s out the door if his salary fits a trade we need to make.

[LkrFan]

You got poor man's Dwyane Wade.

Coach Phil Handy is great at player development. Lonnie is only 23 and growing as a player. Lakers might have a steal.

Definitely adds youth and athleticism to the Lakers. Obviously I'm gonna go full homer for him :lol

[KingKev]

Coach Phil Handy is great at player development. Lonnie is only 23 and growing as a player. Lakers might have a steal.

Definitely adds youth and athleticism to the Lakers. Obviously I'm gonna go full homer for him :lol

We have a pretty good track record at developing mid to late FRPs also. 4 yrs later after a long leash, little accountability for being a terrible defender and a green light to attack and take shots and he was still the same player. Maybe he just needs a change of scenery but I suspect at best you got a Malik Monk replacement.

[baseline bum]

Coach Phil Handy is great at player development. Lonnie is only 23 and growing as a player. Lakers might have a steal.

Definitely adds youth and athleticism to the Lakers. Obviously I'm gonna go full homer for him :lol

12.1 PPG, 40.7% FG, 31.4% 3FG, 48% eFG, 2.6 REB, 2.2 STL, 0.037 WS/48, -0.2 VORP, 12.3 PER
11.5 PPG, 44.7% FG, 36.6% 3FG, 52% eFG, 3.3 REB, 3.3 AST, 0.100 WS/48, +1.5 VORP, 13.4 PER

The statline on the top belongs to 2021-22 Lonnie Walker. Can you name the Lakers legend the similar but better statline on the bottom belongs to?

[John B]

12.1 PPG, 40.7% FG, 31.4% 3FG, 48% eFG, 2.6 REB, 2.2 STL, 0.037 WS/48, -0.2 VORP, 12.3 PER
11.5 PPG, 44.7% FG, 36.6% 3FG, 52% eFG, 3.3 REB, 3.3 AST, 0.100 WS/48, +1.5 VORP, 13.4 PER

The statline on the top belongs to 2021-22 Lonnie Walker. Can you name the Lakers legend the similar but better statline on the bottom belongs to?

Vlade Divac? Eddie Jones? Nick Van Excel? Smush Parker? Swaggy P? Sorry I give up.

[LkrFan]

We have a pretty good track record at developing mid to late FRPs also. 4 yrs later after a long leash, little accountability for being a terrible defender and a green light to attack and take shots and he was still the same player. Maybe he just needs a change of scenery but I suspect at best you got a Malik Monk replacement.

This is fair. I've seen pretty much these same comments about him elsewhere. I'll hope that the light bulb turns on for him in a Laker uni :tu

[LkrFan]

12.1 PPG, 40.7% FG, 31.4% 3FG, 48% eFG, 2.6 REB, 2.2 STL, 0.037 WS/48, -0.2 VORP, 12.3 PER
11.5 PPG, 44.7% FG, 36.6% 3FG, 52% eFG, 3.3 REB, 3.3 AST, 0.100 WS/48, +1.5 VORP, 13.4 PER

The statline on the top belongs to 2021-22 Lonnie Walker. Can you name the Lakers legend the similar but better statline on the bottom belongs to?

Not off the top of my dome but since this board loves him so much, Kobe? :lol

[baseline bum]

Not off the top of my dome but since this board loves him so much, Kobe? :lol

Close, 2005-06 Smush Parker.

[Robz4000]

Haha was just thinking that. Poor man’s JR Smith. Looking forward to nationally televised LBJ death stares after Walker steps out of bounds or leaves his feet and turns the ball over.

:lol forgot about his stepping out of bounds once per game routine tbh

[KingKev]

This is fair. I've seen pretty much these same comments about him elsewhere. I'll hope that the light bulb turns on for him in a Laker uni :tu

He is a capable scorer which is what you guys need when LBJ and AD sit so low
risk high reward signing tbh. We probably asked him to do too much versus just score.

[John B]

:lol forgot about his stepping out of bounds once per game routine tbh

That gets the old man crazy every time :lol There’s a youtube on that, almost a meme like that “almost highlight” on Nuggets

Joking aside, Lonnie could be a crowd favorite with his awesome dunks. The kid just needs to get unleshed. I’m not familiar with their new Coach Ham “and Cheese”. But I’m in LA, so I might get a jersey in case he becomes Westbrook 2.0 :lol

[Rocalcio]

Maybe
I could easily see him as a throw in a future trade

That’s an option too, but he’s young, has potential, he could be part of the rebuilding.

[LkrFan]

Close, 2005-06 Smush Parker.

Dayum :cry

[LkrFan]

He is a capable scorer which is what you guys need when LBJ and AD sit so low
risk high reward signing tbh. We probably asked him to do too much versus just score.

Translation: he's a low IQ player :cry

[baseline bum]

Translation: he's a low IQ player :cry

Also can't shoot or play D. Kind of a poor man's James White.

[SpurSpike]

:lol forgot about his stepping out of bounds once per game routine tbh

To be fair he stopped doing that toward the end of the season but yeah it seemed for a while he was stepping outa bounds once every other game.

[TDMVPDPOY]

didnt this clown had 2 years as a starter on the spurms, yet so many opportunities still cant increase his production...

[exstatic]

Translation: he's a low IQ player :cry

Forest Gump level.

[RC_Drunkford]

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[ismael-robert]

He's reading all ur comments n gonna come out with a chip on his shoulder n make us regret it

[RC_Drunkford]

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[mystargtr34]

Close, 2005-06 Smush Parker.


:lol 'close'.

[mystargtr34]

1542659389957488640

Lakers gave up the guy on the opposite end of that chart (Caruso).

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

He's reading all ur comments n gonna come out with a chip on his shoulder n make us regret it

His one n twenty good game will be dropping thirty on the Spurs every time we play them, there’s no doubt.

[ismael-robert]

I mean to take the same offer from a rival is pretty much throwing two middle fingers up at the team...I guess he could make it about winning

[Killakobe81]

We lacked athleticism he gives us some.
I think we could have used the 6.5 on a better player, but he a Rich Paul client so like THT and KCP we gotta overpay
In Rich we trust so not sure why people trip on Pelinka Jeannie or the Rambii … no one wants to call a spade a spade we are run by KLUTCH for better (bubble champs) or worse two playoffs missed with Bron

[Killakobe81]

Lakers gave up the guy on the opposite end of that chart (Caruso).

Why?! Tht is with KLUTCH

[ismael-robert]

I'm going out on a limb n saying 20pt games are gonna be more the norm if he gets the playing time

[pookenstein]

To be fair he stopped doing that toward the end of the season but yeah it seemed for a while he was stepping outa bounds once every other game.

I don't remember who they were talking about, but Bill and Sean even had "he pulled a Lonnie" as a saying a couple of games this season when another player stepped out of bounds. But you're right, I also noticed that LWIV stopped doing that towards the end of the season.

[John B]

Must be after this talk :lol


https://youtube.com/shorts/GvgFeujnakM?feature=share

[Ice009]

We lacked athleticism he gives us some.
I think we could have used the 6.5 on a better player, but he a Rich Paul client so like THT and KCP we gotta overpay
In Rich we trust so not sure why people trip on Pelinka Jeannie or the Rambii … no one wants to call a spade a spade we are run by KLUTCH for better (bubble champs) or worse two playoffs missed with Bron

I really had high hopes for Lonnie. I still believed in him for a long time, but by the end of last season, that was the first time that I wavered and wasn't sure I wanted him back. I thought with Demar being gone last season, I really thought that Lonnie could get extra court time and be a lot more consistent as he played great the year before in games Demar missed with Lonnie getting consistent court time in those games. However, even without Demar, it didn't seem like he could put it all together with any kind of consistency.

Every year I wanted the Spurs to give him more time as I thought he had a lot of potential, but was just lacking the playing time/experience. I did listen to the posters here that said he didn't really have a high BBIQ and was lacking passion for the game, but I still thought he might come good after a while. I am not sure if it's Pop that destroyed his confidence early on by yanking him all the time or laying into him after he had him guard Kawhi one game where he got taken apart, I just don't know what the issue is with him. All I can say is, if he reaches anywhere close to his potential, you'll be getting a really good player. He still has a lot of talent and potential and maybe all he needs is a new coach and team to get him to start reaching it, or, maybe like posters here have said, he just doesn't have a passion for the game and is too low in his BBIQ (his lack of BBallIQ seems to show most on the defensive end) to get any better than an inconsistent scorer. Even if he doesn't reach his full potential for all his physical gifts (he also has decent/great form on his jump shot to go along with his physical gifts), he could still maybe be a great 6th man scorer such as Lou Williams. I think he had two ceilings 1. being close to a superstar level player due to his physical gifts and also having a decent form on his jump shot to go with it, and 2. being a 6th man of the year type of scorer off the bench. I think the first one has passed him by, but IMO he can still reach the other one as a 6th man in the mold of a Lou Williams for a good team where he's not the focal point of the offense. I don't know, maybe he could also learn to player better defense and end up being a better version of Lou Williams as he still has physical gifts that Lou didn't have athletically.

[buttsR4rebounding]

I'm going out on a limb n saying 20pt games are gonna be more the norm if he gets the playing time

Which will probably be good for -8 on the +/-. But he'll be a steal!

[Dex]

Must be after this talk :lol


https://youtube.com/shorts/GvgFeujnakM?feature=share

Seriously, I swear Lonnie did this like once a game.

[baseline bum]

I mean to take the same offer from a rival is pretty much throwing two middle fingers up at the team...I guess he could make it about winning

If the money is equal who would pick San Antonio over LA?

[baseline bum]

We lacked athleticism he gives us some.
I think we could have used the 6.5 on a better player, but he a Rich Paul client so like THT and KCP we gotta overpay
In Rich we trust so not sure why people trip on Pelinka Jeannie or the Rambii … no one wants to call a spade a spade we are run by KLUTCH for better (bubble champs) or worse two playoffs missed with Bron

He's a poor man's James White. Waste of $6.5 million, but always fun to see the Lakers do stupid shit.

[ismael-robert]

Well there's cost of living so he'll make less. And his years here n buying a house you'd think he'd have developed a sense of home or loyalty to the organization

[Slippy]

I mean to take the same offer from a rival is pretty much throwing two middle fingers up at the team...I guess he could make it about winning

Yap .. He asked the spurs to rescind the offer so they did initiallly want the ability to match. He saw better opportunities at the lakers but was also keeping an eye on who the spurs dafted this year. Im sure Klutch had something to with the move too. I think he'll play with more freedom for sure .

[The Truth #6]

Pop won't be there but over time I could see Lebron being the one to destroy his confidence in other ways. Hopefully not, but I see this as Lebron's last chance for another title and if so and he comes in with a lot of pressure on the team, I don't know, things could all fall apart for Lonnie. I imagine Lonnie will be given a very specific role of what to do, and it might just be standing outside to shoot open 3s. We'll see.

[scott]

This is all setting up for another Lebron "wtf" type moment with Lonnie in the place of JR Smith.

[ducks]

This is all setting up for another Lebron "wtf" type moment with Lonnie in the place of JR Smith.

Walker will fit in with the very liberal outspoken James except when it effects his pocketbook

[Brazil]

probably your best shooting guard since jerry west tbh

:lmao

SR21 on a roll

[spurraider21]

:lmao

https://i.gyazo.com/cfe0c8dd101df2c433d3af54f1a22677.png

[SpurSpike]

Defense was the main reason he was approached by the Lakers?

I like Lonnie more than most on this board but that's pretty funny.

[Dex]

:lmao

https://i.gyazo.com/cfe0c8dd101df2c433d3af54f1a22677.png

That's some next level scouting right there. Bravo, Lakers staff.

Wasn't Lonnie rated as like the third-worst defensive guard by some advanced stat (along with Bryn Forbes)?

[emanueldavidginobili]

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[Chomag]

Lakers approached Lonnie for his defense....wait wut..

No wonder that franchise is trash right now

[Leetonidas]

:lmao

https://i.gyazo.com/cfe0c8dd101df2c433d3af54f1a22677.png

:lmao :lmao wow, if that's true then they really don't scout over there at all

[Leetonidas]

1544769013909168130

They extended a QO which he asked them to rescind to sign the same deal elsewhere....tf he talkin bout

[John B]

They extended a QO which he asked them to rescind to sign the same deal elsewhere....tf he talkin bout

I think maybe he feels it’s charity that FO just trying to do him good, but deeply he feels he’s not part of the long-term plan. Fuck they just drafted two guards. That’s pretty clear enough :lol

Again I like Lonnie. I hate the Fakers but I’m rooting for him to drop 30 pts on the Spurs :lol

[KingKev]

I think maybe he feels it’s charity that FO just trying to do him good, but deeply he feels he’s not part of the long-term plan. Fuck they just drafted two guards. That’s pretty clear enough :lol

Again I like Lonnie. I hate the Fakers but I’m rooting for him to drop 30 pts on the Spurs :lol

Drop 30 and give up 50. The fact it took this long to get rid of him tells you how terrible PATFO really is.

Remember when Pop was a defense first guy?

[John B]

Drop 30 and give up 50. The fact it took this long to get rid of him tells you how terrible PATFO really is.

Remember when Pop was a defense first guy?

Yeah but he’s always a softy for overachievers

[KingKev]

Yeah but he’s always a softy for overachievers

Brynn Forbes and Matt Bonner are over acheivers. walker is literally the polar opposite.

[Mugen]

:lmao

https://i.gyazo.com/cfe0c8dd101df2c433d3af54f1a22677.png

:lmao

[koriwhat]

Remember when Pop was a defense first guy?

Coattails was all it was... Defense went out the window when Duncan and Co. left the building.

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They extended a QO which he asked them to rescind to sign the same deal elsewhere....tf he talkin bout

He got snookered by the glitz and glamour is all that happened.

And if you thought his defense was bad before, wait until he starts getting the Laker crowd out of their seats for his athletic dunks. He'll forget to play defense even more than he did previously

[TVI]

If the money is equal who would pick San Antonio over LA?

Anyone who wants a lower cost of living maybe?

[John B]

You think the Lakers prioritize defense when they let Jared, Caruso, Danny Green go so they can sign Westbrick and Carmelo?

[baseline bum]

Anyone who wants a lower cost of living maybe?

Meh he's a millionaire, he can afford LA just fine.

[Robz4000]

Meh he's a millionaire, he can afford LA just fine.

:lol what are the chances he sees even half of that $6.5mil tho?

[TiMMeH*faN*frOmNY]

I think he’s gonna take a step forward next year. Best of luck to the kid.

[tbdog]

I think he’s gonna take a step forward next year. Best of luck to the kid.

Most do with LeBron. If he plays along side Westbrook in stretches, different story.

[KingKev]

Lol Walker going off about his defensive ability and to “lv him open”

Leave him open so he can catch the ball out of bounds lol

[Dex]

Lol Walker going off about his defensive ability and to “lv him open”

Leave him open so he can catch the ball out of bounds lol

Or drive into an open layup only to pass the ball back out to a guarded man on the three point line

[rascal]

Anyone who wants a lower cost of living maybe?

Not like he has to be concerned about cost of living.

[KingKev]

These Walker quotes keep getting better. Apparently working out twice a day “mostly taking jumpshots” I guess because he is already a lockdown defender? He mentioned he can guard 1-3 and with the added physical strength he recently put on might be able to guard the 4.

Now that he is on the national stage are ppl asking him about what he brings defensively, thereby indirectly pointing out (or patronizing) he was one of the worst defensive players in the league last year and it is just going over his head? Maybe Skywalker IV should have been in LaLa Land from the jump.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

:lol what are the chances he sees even half of that $6.5mil tho?

True. Between taxes and his agent he'll net about 40% of that. Still not a bad year's pay.

[KingKev]

Meh he's a millionaire, he can afford LA just fine.


Seriously. Rent a 7-10k a month pad that has a parking space for your whip. Add another 2-3k a month living expenses and go get some buckets and you might get a 50m deal next off-season. Oh and SoCal is pretty fking dooe if you don’t work in HR at Staples for 50k a year. He has already made 10ms in his career and is like 25.

I’m glad to see he got an opportunity elsewhere. Happier we didn’t retain him but even if he flops, to quote the homie Atl Spur “He will be just fine”

[John B]

Lonnie will be at bigger stage. Lonnie will provide his dunks and Klutch will make sure he has enough exposures. I think he’s more than fine.

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Seriously. Rent a 7-10k a month pad that has a parking space for your whip. Add another 2-3k a month living expenses and go get some buckets and you might get a 50m deal next off-season. Oh and SoCal is pretty fking dooe if you don’t work in HR at Staples for 50k a year. He has already made 10ms in his career and is like 25.

I’m glad to see he got an opportunity elsewhere. Happier we didn’t retain him but even if he flops, to quote the homie Atl Spur “He will be just fine”

We all need an Atl Spur in our lives.

[J_Paco]

What I'm wondering is will he continue to shot sub 33% from three or was last a fluke? Can't imagine with his offensive inconsistency & horrid defense that anyone would shell out big money for a below-average three-point shooter.

[J_Paco]

What I'm wondering is will he continue to shot sub 33% from three or was last year a fluke? Can't imagine with his offensive inefficiency, inconsistency & horrid defense that anyone would shell out big money for a below-average three-point shooter.

[RC_Drunkford]

Lonnie will most definitely be in the dunk contest this season now that he left the Spurs

[KingKev]

Lonnie will most definitely be in the dunk contest this season now that he left the Spurs

His dunks are shit though. He gets up like a mutha but that is it. Never yams on anyone. No flair. No pizzazz. No creativity.

[John B]

What I'm wondering is will he continue to shot sub 33% from three or was last year a fluke? Can't imagine with his offensive inefficiency, inconsistency & horrid defense that anyone would shell out big money for a below-average three-point shooter.

The Fakers said they wanted Lonnie for his defense :lmao

Seriously he's with Klutch. I see him dunking and at a very marketable big stage The Lakers. ESPN highlights - Ka-ching

[rjv]

it is true that lonnie has an explosive burst burst but underwhelms when he gets to the rim.

[RC_Drunkford]

His dunks are shit though. He gets up like a mutha but that is it. Never yams on anyone. No flair. No pizzazz. No creativity.

sounds perfect for the dunk contest tbh. It became the worst event of the entire All-Star weekend

[exstatic]

What I'm wondering is will he continue to shot sub 33% from three or was last year a fluke? Can't imagine with his offensive inefficiency, inconsistency & horrid defense that anyone would shell out big money for a below-average three-point shooter.

Lonnie was not good when he was shooting 40%in 61 games his second year.

[Drom John]

FiveThirtyEight Defensive Raptor, SG minimum 1174 minutes, their default

Walker improved defensively in 2020-2021, with that improvement near matched by getting worse offensively

84) -1.8 Evan Fournier, Caris LeVert, Patty Mills, Klay Thompson, Lonnie Walker IV

bottom five:

100) -2.7 Eric Gordon, Jalen Green, Donovan Mitchell, Norman Powell
105) -3.3 Ben McLemore
106) -3.4 Terrence Ross
107) -3.5 Bryn Forbes

[KingKev]

sounds perfect for the dunk contest tbh. It became the worst event of the entire All-Star weekend

Dunk contest is cyclical like many other patterns in this life but I din’t think Walker will be the one to rejuvenate it.

Ja, Zion, Ant could get it going again.

[BatManu20]

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[Chinook]

Class act. Wish it had worked out. Hope it still does for him. Could be one of the truly great personalities in the league if his play allows him to get there.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

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He forgot about road games.

[dbestpro]

He is gonna go off now that he no longer has to drink soda Pop.

[Seventyniner]

Look who's gonna get a tribute video the first time the Lakers come to town.

[slick'81]

Look who's gonna get a tribute video the first time the Lakers come to town.

cant wait for his and Dejounte's,tbh

[John B]

I wish it finally clicks on him this year and he gets that big contract. Such a great guy.

[wildbill2u]

It looks like The Lakers were in worse shape than we are for help at the Guard position. After several years his development didn't match our expectations and our plans for this last draft. I have no problem with Lonnie continuing his career with the Lakers and wish him well.

[Mr. Body]

It looks like The Lakers were in worse shape than we are for help at the Guard position. After several years his development didn't match our expectations and our plans for this last draft. I have no problem with Lonnie continuing his career with the Lakers and wish him well.

It does seem like a better situation. He probably needed a change anyway, but he'll get a chance to eat up a lot of minutes for an old team.

[Degoat]

I’m hoping for the best for Lonnie, feel like he was given every chance to succeed here and he just couldn’t find a niche

[exstatic]

He is gonna go off now that he no longer has to drink soda Pop.

He was off the leash, never benched, and force fed touches last year, and still couldn’t succeed. The Laker fans will love him for a few months, until they realize that any lead they had when he enters the game becomes smaller, and any deficit becomes larger. I like Lonnie, think he’s a great kid, but he’s NBA junk food.

[rjv]

everything about lonnie screamed "spur" but he just couldn't get it together on the court. i'll miss off court lonnie but not on the court lonnie.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Should have never cut the hair. He was a little more intimidating when he was 6'9".

[KingKev]

Stepped out of bounds last night lol

Holy fuck that Lakers roster is bad after AD/LBJ.

[Chinook]

Didn't watch the game, but it seems like he did a lot of good things. If one of those threes had gone down, he would've had a good stat line. But I am having a hard time accepting that a lineup with him as the small-forward and two short guards is a long-term solution. The Lakers are going to eventually have to cave and make some kind of trade. That might mean Westbrook, but it might also mean cobbling together whatever salary they have to get role-players. Unfortunately for Lonnie, his salary might well be part of that process after 12/15.

[KingKev]

He definitely was putting the effort in in the defensive end.

[rankingtear]

He was invisible for most of the game. Did not really notice him until his patented contested pull up. Had some nice passes to Lebron in transition.

[DPG21920]

The only good thing he did, IMO, was his playmaking. He had several nice drives and passes and his ability to get to spots is solid. But outside of that? Was rough outing. Didnt finish particularly well when he got inside, shot was off and his defense was porous (now, he was on Steph a lot so hard to judge him alone on that).

But the playmaking was definitely solid and he created plenty of nice looks for guys.

Rest of the game looks the same…

[RC_Drunkford]

:lol yeah he was so good that he‘s Trending on Twitter

[Mr. Body]

That roster is ug-ly. They were playing two terrible white dudes because they sort of hustled and both sucked. Last year, I maintain the problem wasn't Westbrook so much as Anthony Davis being Charmin soft. Both last year and this year their role players were barely worthy of Division III college. If Walker doesn't find a way to have some shine, I don't knwo what to say.

[BillMc]

That roster is ug-ly. They were playing two terrible white dudes because they sort of hustled and both sucked. Last year, I maintain the problem wasn't Westbrook so much as Anthony Davis being Charmin soft. Both last year and this year their role players were barely worthy of Division III college. If Walker doesn't find a way to have some shine, I don't knwo what to say.

It was funny after they won the chip how pundints were saying "Could Anthony Davis" become the best PF of all time? As if TD had to look over his shoulder.

Now, its pretty obviousl that AD won't even pass Giannis, Barkley, KG, Malone, Dirk or McHale. New Orleans will remember forcing himself out, and long terms Laker Nation won't place him with their icons. He'll have no legacy.

As for Lonnie, good for him getting a start, but I doubt he'll stay there.

[KingKev]

Davis looked good last night.

lakers are going to need 35 mins a night for 70 games from AD/LBJ to be in the playoff hunt unless they find a way to build that bench out.

Jak, McBooger and JRich could give them an immediate bump but would still be an LBJ/AD injury away from
flaming out.

[John B]

I saw the game being in LA. I was happy to see him start. I kept waiting for him to dunk. But he seems very passive, standing waiting for the ball. I mean guys like Reeves (2nd year) and Nunn were so much active, moving through screens, letting them fly. Lonnie just waiting, and not trying to get off his defender. It was funny when he was about to pass to LeBron on an ISO play, waived Bron instead and took a long 3 that missed terribly :lol. He ended with 5pts, 5 assists, 2 TO’s, 1 blk, 1 stl in 29 mins :dramaquee. But I read loval news that he’s playing well during Pre-Season and have some good praises especially from
A. Davis.

[Mr. Body]

It was funny after they won the chip how pundints were saying "Could Anthony Davis" become the best PF of all time? As if TD had to look over his shoulder.

Now, its pretty obviousl that AD won't even pass Barkley, KG, Malone, Dirk or McHale. New Orleans will remember forcing himself out, and long terms Laker Nation won't place him with their icons. He'll have no legacy.

As for Lonnie, good for him getting a start, but I doubt he'll stay there.

Yet somehow AD was forced onto the Top 75 list (ESPN. Eye roll.).

Folks'll look back and wonder who this guy was.

[John B]

Davis looked good last night.

lakers are going to need 35 mins a night for 70 games from AD/LBJ to be in the playoff hunt unless they find a way to build that bench out.

Jak, McBooger and JRich could give them an immediate bump but would still be an LBJ/AD injury away from


flaming out.

They’re not gonna last the entire season. Klay was discussing with the TNT guys how lucky they are having fresh blood that will make it possible for them to have long careers not having to carry the team through 82 games every year. Yeah, I expect either LeBron or Davis to be injury prone with heavy iso and logging minutes. Nothing I hate more than Dubs Curry and Co to match Timmy ring count. But who else will come out from the West? Denver with Murray back? Hopefully.

[rjv]

lonnie was ultimately lonnie; just not assertive when he needs to be.

[TekXX]

I guess the Lakers have been listening to Stephen Jackson and thought we were holding lonnie back so they started him for 30 minutes. I guess they found out.

[BacktoBasics]

As if Lonnie was going to get any offense going.

[ambchang]

Lonnie will get Corey maggettes nickname soon.

[TD 21]

This Lakers team reminds of the Aldridge-DeRozan era Spurs, only James-Davis are obviously in a different universe from them.

They're trying to play a more modern rotation, but they have no sizable two-way role players.


Yet somehow AD was forced onto the Top 75 list (ESPN. Eye roll.).

Folks'll look back and wonder who this guy was.

He's easily a top 75 player of all-time, but obviously was never going to seriously challenge Duncan.

Still, he had (has?) a shot at ending up in the Malone, Garnett, Nowitzki, Barkley tier.

[exstatic]

Didn't watch the game, but it seems like he did a lot of good things. If one of those threes had gone down, he would've had a good stat line. But I am having a hard time accepting that a lineup with him as the small-forward and two short guards is a long-term solution. The Lakers are going to eventually have to cave and make some kind of trade. That might mean Westbrook, but it might also mean cobbling together whatever salary they have to get role-players. Unfortunately for Lonnie, his salary might well be part of that process after 12/15.

He’s on a one year contract, so any trade has to have his blessing.

[ambchang]

This Lakers team reminds of the Aldridge-DeRozan era Spurs, only James-Davis are obviously in a different universe from them.

They're trying to play a more modern rotation, but they have no sizable two-way role players.



He's easily a top 75 player of all-time, but obviously was never going to seriously challenge Duncan.

Still, he had (has?) a shot at ending up in the Malone, Garnett, Nowitzki, Barkley tier.

That was only because he was putting up historical PER on that horrible NO team. It highlights how good players look like great players when they are on bad teams as they get to stat stuff. The really great players carry their teams to better records, especially in the regular season. In the playoffs, even the greatest players need a great team around them to succeed.

[Chinook]

He’s on a one year contract, so any trade has to have his blessing.

Nah. That's only if he would have early Bird or Bird rights after the contract ends. He'd only have non-Bird rights. He can't block a trade.

[TD 21]

That was only because he was putting up historical PER on that horrible NO team. It highlights how good players look like great players when they are on bad teams as they get to stat stuff. The really great players carry their teams to better records, especially in the regular season. In the playoffs, even the greatest players need a great team around them to succeed.

Which makes what he did all the more impressive. Unlike Scumbag's affluenza ass, Davis didn't get to join a dynasty in progress. Instead, he had a carry a moribund franchise, yet still posted historic efficiency with bad - mediocre, chronically injured talent surrounding him.

Save for James, the only others who might have been able to squeeze more out of that team at that time were Durant and Harden.

[ambchang]

Which makes what he did all the more impressive. Unlike Scumbag's affluenza ass, Davis didn't get to join a dynasty in progress. Instead, he had a carry a moribund franchise, yet still posted historic efficiency with bad - mediocre, chronically injured talent surrounding him.

Save for James, the only others who might have been able to squeeze more out of that team at that time were Durant and Harden.

I meant the great players carry their teams to respectable regular season records. That’s why I’m not that sold on a guy like Mitchell.

[Mr. Body]

He's easily a top 75 player of all-time, but obviously was never going to seriously challenge Duncan.

Still, he had (has?) a shot at ending up in the Malone, Garnett, Nowitzki, Barkley tier.

What? No he fucking isn't a top 75 player. LMAO.

[John B]

Lonnie is actually playing well with 12 pts in 15 mins in the 2nd quarter. I think the Laker fans are awed with his athleticism and might be in a very good situation tbh. A starter for the Lakers?

[Leetonidas]

Yeah like he didn't have games like this for us occasionally. He's not a terrible player his problem is his low bbiq and terrible consistency. He'll definitely have games where he looks really good though here and there

[John B]

Yeah like he didn't have games like this for us occasionally. He's not a terrible player his problem is his low bbiq and terrible consistency. He'll definitely have games where he looks really good though here and there

Except with the Lakers he's actually encouraged to pump his fist for that entertainment factor. It's like a circus, and Laker fans are entertained.

[John B]

Coach Ham just asked Lonnie smiling, just drive the ball. I think Lonnie will thrive with the Lakers tbh

[TD 21]

I meant the great players carry their teams to respectable regular season records. That’s why I’m not that sold on a guy like Mitchell.

That's not true. Can't hold everyone to the same standards of Abdul-Jabbar, Bird, Johnson, Jordan, O'Neal, Duncan, James, etc., who mostly had decent or better teams surrounding them.



What? No he fucking isn't a top 75 player. LMAO.

Great reasoning.

[Mr. Body]

He's looking good and probably the reason they're close with LAC. If he keeps things simple he should be good for the Lakers.

[Mr. Body]

That's not true. Can't hold everyone to the same standards of Abdul-Jabbar, Bird, Johnson, Jordan, O'Neal, Duncan, James, etc., who mostly had decent or better teams surrounding them.




Great reasoning.

Thanks. Anthony Davis top 75. Fucking ludicrous. Do you work for ESPN? LMAO.

[ismael-robert]

AD already out with injury

[TD 21]

Thanks. Anthony Davis top 75. Fucking ludicrous. Do you work for ESPN? LMAO.

:lmao Are you serious? Most of these old fogies had no business making it, the media just lacked the intestinal fortitude to remove them because of perceived disrespect.

Among current players, he has as good a case as Scumbag and they both have better cases than Lillard, Westbrook and Anthony.

[InRareForm]

Lonnie missing a bunch of wide open 3s

[John B]

AD already out with injury

Yeah that was a bad fall from the Kawhi spin move and pump, that took two of Lakers players.

[John B]

I still can't believe Lonnie is the starting SF for the Lakers :lmao. And he's actually setting the play from the inbound?? :lol:lol

[KingKev]

Lakers are fucked.

[John B]

Yup Lakers air just went out after Davis went out.

[Chomag]

Spurs are trash but at least we can't say that we have 3 all star HoFs and are still trash.

[John B]

Davis is back.

Lonnie must have really impressed in practice to earn that starting SF tbh

[Mr. Body]

Westbrook has issues, LeBron can't carry a team anymore. The Lakers' problem is Anthony Davis should be utterly dominant and he's the same fugazi never-was as always.

[Russ]

It will be fun to watch the Lakers lose (although they will be trying to win because they have no first round pick -- the Pelicans have it).

[John B]

Beverly :lmao

[John B]

It will be fun to watch the Lakers lose (although they will be trying to win because they have no first round pick -- the Pelicans have it).

I hate the Lakers and what they represent. But damn I'm actually rooting for them just because of Lonnie. :lol

[KingKev]

It will be fun to watch the Lakers lose (although they will be trying to win because they have no first round pick -- the Pelicans have it).

It’s a pick swap.

[slick'81]

Walker- 18/2/2/2

[stephen jackson]

Fucker finally learns to dunk in la

[Mr. Body]

Lakers make their run with Davis on the bench. He just sucks for them.

Have to say, Patrick Beverly gives them some dog. Better than the moribund, zombie team they had last year. Walker doing very well because of big lanes created by LeBron.

[John B]

Lonnie with the ally-off to tie the game! :lol 20pts? 2-9 from 3 though? :lol

[Russ]

It’s a pick swap.

I'm pretty sure the Lakers will finish behind the Pelicans. :)

[John B]

Lonnie will be in ESPN highlight reels... It can't be anything better after Spurs letting him walk

[Mr. Body]

Down 4 late in the fourth, Anthony Davis jacks a long contested two.

Why this guy just absolutey sucks. Gets his stats when it doesn't matter. Zubacs has been playing him nearly to a standstill considering their roles.

[R. DeMurre]

Horrendous shot selection for Westbrook, who's now 0-10 in this game.

[daslicer]

I hate the Lakers and what they represent. But damn I'm actually rooting for them just because of Lonnie. :lol

I find myself rooting for Lonnie to have good games with them but at the same time for the Lakers to lose.

[Robz4000]

Both these teams might miss the playoffs tbh.

[John B]

I find myself rooting for Lonnie to have good games with them but at the same time for the Lakers to lose.

:bobo

[Robz4000]

:lol Fuckin' Nephew been taking shots at the Spurs all day

[Chinook]

I think it made sense for the Spurs to let Walker leave even though it wasn't the outcome I preferred. They had too many guards, and Walker wasn't progressing in SA. But I will never root against him to justify that move. I don't think he'll be scoring in the 20s regularly, at least not for a while. But I do think he can provide scoring and dynamism from his position. In many ways, the Lakers seem to be hoping Lonnie can be to them what the Spurs seem to be trying to make Primo be this season.

[John B]

Man Lonnie with 26pts though in a nationally televised game... in a losing effort.

[niraj2000]

Lonnie is a one trick pony. Only able to score due to his athleticism. Cannot defend nor shoot threes.

[John B]

:lol Fuckin' Nephew been taking shots at the Spurs all day

Fuck Ka-Who? :lol

[spurs1990]

I liked Leonard’s postgame interview. He’s improved a lot in what little press he sees. Walker was great tonight.