Latest Spurs Intel as the Free Agency Period Begins

[timvp]

https://www.spurstalk.com/newest-spurs-intel-free-agency-underway/

[BacktoBasics]

Jalen Smith would be a great addition to the timeline.

[AFBlue]

What does a realistic Smith deal look like?

[mo7888]

https://www.spurstalk.com/newest-spurs-intel-free-agency-underway/

Love the approach...I'd be thrilled with a Zollins/Smith combo at the C position if we can move Jak for value. Two guys who can space the floor and have upside we can explore gives us trade value and provides space for our teenagers to work.

[exstatic]

:fro

[John B]

Thanks Timvp. But I was expecting this read with my coffee much earlier :wakeup

Jalen is a must, especially if they will eventually lose Poeltl. And any news on Poeltl? And that’s how it feels there’s a package getting worked on. But I understand it could be that we’re playing the facilitator especially for KD’s deal. I’m hoping Spurs get more 2-3 more FRP’s for the effort, minimally protected if teams are desperate to get KD or Irving.

[Mugen]

Isn't Keldon eligible for an extension? Any word on that front?

[mo7888]

Thanks Timvp. But I was expecting this read with my coffee much earlier :wakeup

Jalen is a must, especially if they will eventually lose Poeltl. And any news on Poeltl? And that’s how it feels there’s a package getting worked on. But I understand it could be that we’re playing the facilitator especially for KD’s deal. I’m hoping Spurs get more 2-3 more FRP’s for the effort, minimally protected if teams are desperate to get KD or Irving.

Or Gobert or Ayton deals...

[Dejounte]

Jalen Smith was my guy from a couple drafts ago and I watched him extensively. I wonder how much of his development has been fucked over by the Suns and if there’s still anything to grow there. If he can be at least a backup big that’s not a liability on either end, that would be great. He and Collins are a little bit too identical… but that’s not necessarily a bad thing.

[exstatic]

Isn't Keldon eligible for an extension? Any word on that front?

They’ll want to use up their cap room first, then make an offer to Keldon, which he will sit on until the last minute, judging by the DJ and White extensions.

[KingKev]

What does a realistic Smith deal look like?

He gets 6-10mm a year.

[exstatic]

He gets 6-10mm a year.

You’ll want to price out the taxpayer MLE teams, and maybe the MLE teams, too. I mean, we gave 3/21 to a guy with a hundred screws in his ankle.

[KingKev]

You’ll want to price out the taxpayer MLE teams, and maybe the MLE teams, too. I mean, we gave 3/21 to a guy with a hundred screws in his ankle.

Virtually no team can give him more than the MLE at this point and he can’t be signed and traded for more than 6ish so 13 per year is his absolute max.

If you are the Sours and you like him all rounding errors given your cap situation.

[MultiTroll]

https://www.spurstalk.com/newest-spurs-intel-free-agency-underway/
Thanks for staying on top of this porky.
Up to the hour info with explainations of why and how it's coming down.

:bobo

ps are you getting enough sleep? :lol

[cd98]

It's sad because we are all excited to see what the Spurs will do with the cap space, but the reality is that the longer they wait, the better the deal for them will get. They aren't signing anyone outside of young talent because that would mess up their timeline. And a deal, like the Durant one or a Kyrie one that they might facilitate, will take time to put together. So I think we are going to be waiting a week or two to see what they finally do. So we can all back away from the computer and not bother hitting refresh every 5 minutes.

[exstatic]

Virtually no team can give him more than the MLE at this point and he can’t be signed and traded for more than 6ish so 13 per year is his absolute max.

If you are the Sours and you like him all rounding errors given your cap situation.

I mean you’d only have to give him $11M to price out the MLE only teams. It’s like $10.7, roughly. If you can get him for Collins money, huge win.

[Dejounte]

https://youtu.be/_xRi3hXle70

[CGD]

You’ll want to price out the taxpayer MLE teams, and maybe the MLE teams, too. I mean, we gave 3/21 to a guy with a hundred screws in his ankle.

I saw Houston mentioned for him yesterday. I assume they’re a MLE team bc of Wall but not certain.

[KingKev]

I mean you’d only have to give him $11M to price out the MLE only teams. It’s like $10.7, roughly. If you can get him for Collins money, huge win.

Oh yeah my bad thought it was bumped to 12.5mm with the cap increase to ~123mm.

I agree.

[Atl Spur]

Sounds about right…..

[CGD]

https://youtu.be/_xRi3hXle70

Sure loves the word “Amazing.” Seems like a nice guy

[KingKev]

I saw Houston mentioned for him yesterday. I assume they’re a MLE team bc of Wall but not certain.

Yeah my quick back of the envelope math assuming Jabari Smith at full rookie scale deal has them with around 10mm in cap, may of missed something but they basically are right around MLE in terms of their max offer. We could easily
outbid if required.

[lmbebo]

Would love to sign him if he's still around. Maybe a S&T with Indy. Send them JRich and a 2nd for Smith? to preserve cap space?

[timvp]

Isn't Keldon eligible for an extension? Any word on that front?

Very unlikely there's movement on that front until the October deadline, I'd think.

[Dejounte]

Would be fantastic if the Spurs could land Vasilije Micic somehow… Euroleague MVP point guard. Probably have to give up someone valuable though. I would give up JRich if we could.

[timvp]

What does a realistic Smith deal look like?

Doing to an oddity in the CBA, the Pacers can't offer him more than two years and $10.6 million. If the Spurs want him, it would obviously have to be north of that figure.

[exstatic]

Oh yeah my bad thought it was bumped to 12.5mm with the cap increase to ~123mm.

I agree.

Y’know, it might be more. The figure I used was an estimate from like May?

Kid flat balled out when he was put into the IND rotation. He wasn’t afraid of the moment. He’s also only 5 months older than Keegan Murray, and has one gleague season and one nba season under his belt.

[Dejounte]

https://youtu.be/mNkK164j1tQ

[AFBlue]

Doing to an oddity in the CBA, the Pacers can't offer him more than two years and $10.6 million. If the Spurs want him, it would obviously have to be north of that figure.

Got it.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/arbarkas/status/1542861337990205441

Come on, Spurs…

[timvp]

It's sad because we are all excited to see what the Spurs will do with the cap space, but the reality is that the longer they wait, the better the deal for them will get. They aren't signing anyone outside of young talent because that would mess up their timeline. And a deal, like the Durant one or a Kyrie one that they might facilitate, will take time to put together.

Yeah, that's the reality of the situation.

Any signing at all has to be second guessed until Durant and Kyrie land in their next destination. Someone like Jalen Smith could be a nice value signing ....... but what if you accidentally use up space that a desperate team would pay top dollar for in coming weeks? If the Spurs play their cards right, they may be able to turn their ~$40 million in cap space into like two or three first rounders.

[MultiTroll]

a deal, like the Durant one or a Kyrie
Durant not now. Impressive performance in the 21 playoffs vs Milwaukee but even as skinny as he is i think the Achilles days are numbered.

Kyrie idea you should seek crack use relief. The last think a very young growing core needs is that narcissist diva showing what not to do.

D'Oh you just meant the Spurs be a 3rd team party of. I was wrong.

[KingKev]

Would love to sign him if he's still around. Maybe a S&T with Indy. Send them JRich and a 2nd for Smith? to preserve cap space?

Indy can’t sign and trade him for more than ~6mm. Won’t happen.

[lmbebo]

Doing to an oddity in the CBA, the Pacers can't offer him more than two years and $10.6 million. If the Spurs want him, it would obviously have to be north of that figure.


a 3/25 type deal worth it?

[lmbebo]

Indy can’t sign and trade him for more than ~6mm. Won’t happen.

Yeah, saw that afterwards... so if he wants more than 6m, we would need to sign him out right.

[The Truth #6]

Bringing Brown back as a coach to me is great news. I feel like Pop does better with a peer around him and not a complete coaching youth movement. As for Jalen Smith, I think he's a good fit, but given the goals of the team, waiting to see where the Durant/Irving talks go is the smart play I would say.

[Ocotillo]

I would like to see Jalen Smith added as Zollins insurance, especially if in addition to losing Jock, Jak get's shipped somewhere.

[exstatic]

If I were Wright, I’d be focusing on the Durant trade. That’s going to be the easier one to evaluate, since he still has multiple years left on his contract.

The potential Kyrie trade is a dumpster fire on multiple levels, including the fact that it’s Kyrie.

[poopbox]

So we are basically sitting around just waiting for someone to get desperate so that we can get draft capital for absorbing a bad contract

Not mad since we are clearly tanking but remember how we were all thinking about how a DJ and Ayton pairing would look not even a week ago :rollin

[buujness]

Jalen Smith was my guy from a couple drafts ago and I watched him extensively. I wonder how much of his development has been fucked over by the Suns and if there’s still anything to grow there. If he can be at least a backup big that’s not a liability on either end, that would be great. He and Collins are a little bit too identical… but that’s not necessarily a bad thing.
I watched a few of his Pacer games this past season. I was impressed by his offensive play; nice shot, with a surprisingly advanced feel for the game on that end. He rarely made poor decisions, sometimes eschewing decent shots for good or great ones later in the possession. That being said, for all of his offensive feel, his defensive feel for the game was nil. He was often out of position, playing either the 5 or the 4 (Indiana had him play both). His defensive rebounding was good, and he was decent if a guard tried to take advantage of him in isolation, but his awareness was extremely poor, IMO.

I'd say that there's talent there to be mined; he just went to a terrible place for development, as he wasn't going to get regular playing time in order to iron out those problems on a team with LOB aspirations.

[scott]

https://youtu.be/mNkK164j1tQ

Intrigued by this guy. Would be a fun PG to develop whilst tanking. Wonder what “real asset” could get it done

[RC_Drunkford]

You’ll want to price out the taxpayer MLE teams, and maybe the MLE teams, too. I mean, we gave 3/21 to a guy with a hundred screws in his ankle.

You‘re acting like every team in the league wants the guy. It‘s 2 Teams and the Spurs are one of them

[RC_Drunkford]

Micic won’t come over. He does not want to play on a tanking team and OKC wants a first for trading his rights

[Dejounte]

For the pro tanking crew, prepare to be disappointed :lmao

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1542921526265233414

[mo7888]

For the pro tanking crew, prepare to be disappointed :lmao

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1542921526265233414

That's what we want...

[Robz4000]

For the pro tanking crew, prepare to be disappointed :lmao

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1542921526265233414

:lol says Keldon right before he's traded too

[KingKev]

For the pro tanking crew, prepare to be disappointed :lmao

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1542921526265233414


haha “Everything will be alright”
Atl Spur you write that for Keldon homie?

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/paulgarcianba/status/1542917636400594944

Last year’s leadership trio: Murray, White, Poeltl then Murray, Keldon, Poeltl

This year? Could be Keldon, Vassell, Primo…

[exstatic]

You‘re acting like every team in the league wants the guy. It‘s 2 Teams and the Spurs are one of them

Wow. You have the numbers of all of the GMs?

[RC_Drunkford]

Wow. You have the numbers of all of the GMs?

no I read the news

[Atl Spur]

haha “Everything will be alright”
Atl Spur you write that for Keldon homie?

I like this new you! I hate that you noticed ( my writing style ) lol

[CGD]

If I were Wright, I’d be focusing on the Durant trade. That’s going to be the easier one to evaluate, since he still has multiple years left on his contract.

The potential Kyrie trade is a dumpster fire on multiple levels, including the fact that it’s Kyrie.

Lotta smoke about Nets<>Suns re KD deal.

I think Spurs probably more likely to be facilitating at Kyrie deal to Lakers. Problem is Lakers need assets to send us for Brick and something for Nets. Seems tough, unless maybe we get off Dougie.

[RC_Drunkford]

For the pro tanking crew, prepare to be disappointed :lmao

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1542921526265233414

and you think thats gonna make them win games? I hope they fight hard, but they will still lose cause they lack elite talent

[SpursFan86]

What do you guys expect players to say?

“Yeah I’m looking forward to being dead last in the conference next year. Our team met today and decided on 22 wins being a realistic target.” :lol

[Atl Spur]

I’d be shocked if we ever help the lakers!

[Dejounte]

What do you guys expect players to say?

“Yeah I’m looking forward to being dead last in the conference next year. Our team met today and decided on 22 wins being a realistic target.” :lol

Nope but when the players start outperforming everyone’s expectations and win games, I’m going to grab my popcorn and enjoy the crying about how “so and so player needs to sit down because he’s winning too many games for us”.

[exstatic]

no I read the news

Did you know the Knicks were going to steal Morris a few years back? That wasn’t in the news until it happened.

The best teams hold their cards close to the best. Makes no sense that only two teams would be interested in a 22 YO 6’10” PF who is a vertical threat, rebounds, and shoots the 3 at 37% when in the rotation.

[John B]

haha “Everything will be alright”
Atl Spur (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8789) you write that for Keldon homie?


I think Primo got the same script they’re passing around. Dude, why do they expect to say? These guys are paid mil-lions!! of dollars, and not just to run lapses on the court.

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs were saying the last 3 years we have a chip on our shoulders, we‘re going to make the playoffs and everytime they missed them:lmao

[RC_Drunkford]

Did you know the Knicks were going to steal Morris a few years back? That wasn’t in the news until it happened.

The best teams hold their cards close to the best. Makes no sense that only two teams would be interested in a 22 YO 6’10” PF who is a vertical threat, rebounds, and shoots the 3 at 37% when in the rotation.

:lol how is Jalen Smith comparable to Marcus Morris? He‘s a 3rd stringer. Just cause he’s the only player out of this entire FA class that you want them to sign doesn‘t mean he‘s a marquee free agent

[NASpurs]

Nope but when the players start outperforming everyone’s expectations and win games, I’m going to grab my popcorn and enjoy the crying about how “so and so player needs to sit down because he’s winning too many games for us”.

:lol that's not going to happen

[TDomination]

i've mentioned it before, this team as is (with poeltl, johnson, vassell, primo) will win as many games as last year or close to it.
-tre jones looked sharp is many games as PG and is a great finisher at the rim
-vassell is getting better and is on the cusp of becoming really good from what i saw last year
-having a true 4 with sochan will already improve our defense.

unfortunately for tankers (me included) we will likely be between 8th or 10th worst team in the league. barring injuries. this team will not outright tank like portland did or okc or the rockets.

[Dejounte]

i've mentioned it before, this team as is (with poeltl, johnson, vassell, primo) will win as many games as last year or close to it.
-tre jones looked sharp is many games as PG and is a great finisher at the rim
-vassell is getting better and is on the cusp of becoming really good from what i saw last year
-having a true 4 with sochan will already improve our defense.

unfortunately for tankers (me included) we will likely be between 8th or 10th worst team in the league. barring injuries. this team will not outright tank like portland did or okc or the rockets.

This is exactly what I’m saying :lmao

but it’s flying over the heads of some people

the team’s competitiveness alone and better team synergy will keep out of the top 8 again and people will cry.

[Leetonidas]

Imo yall are crazy if you think SA will have a similar record next year. West got better, division got better, Lakers and Clippers will be better. Spurs will be competing with Houston for worst record in the West imo. No way this team wins 25 games as currently constructed. If they ship Jak at then I'm saying 20 wins tops

[Atl Spur]

This is exactly what I’m saying :lmao

but it’s flying over the heads of some people

the team’s competitiveness alone and better team synergy will keep out of the top 8 again and people will cry.
^ all of this

[Atl Spur]

Imo yall are crazy if you think SA will have a similar record next year. West got better, division got better, Lakers and Clippers will be better. Spurs will be competing with Houston for worst record in the West imo. No way this team wins 25 games as currently constructed. If they ship Jak at then I'm saying 20 wins tops

Slow down big guy……let’s see how we finish up free agency!

[Robz4000]

Imo yall are crazy if you think SA will have a similar record next year. West got better, division got better, Lakers and Clippers will be better. Spurs will be competing with Houston for worst record in the West imo. No way this team wins 25 games as currently constructed. If they ship Jak at then I'm saying 20 wins tops

:lol

[Leetonidas]

:lol

:lol hey I didn't say they would be a top seed, just that they would be better which isn't saying much

Knowing the Lakers they'll find a way to get Kyrie from Brooklyn.

[exstatic]

:lol how is Jalen Smith comparable to Marcus Morris? He‘s a 3rd stringer. Just cause he’s the only player out of this entire FA class that you want them to sign doesn‘t mean he‘s a marquee free agent

Some of the best FA signing aren’t the marquee ones. Also, wasn’t comparing Morris to Smith,but one situation where you didn’t have the NBA GM Rolodex working for you, with another situation like that.

I haven’t heard anything =/= nothing’s happening.

[Mr. Body]

Damn, Keldon sounds dejected trying to make sense of the trade. Yeah like I said this will impact team chemistry. These older guys aren't playing for the team, they're playing for some other team in the future.

[Robz4000]

:lol hey I didn't say they would be a top seed, just that they would be better which isn't saying much

Knowing the Lakers they'll find a way to get Kyrie from Brooklyn.

Just don't see how they do it tbh. Even then, Irving has proven to be a cancer so whose to say he doesn't sink the Lakers like Westbrick?

[KingKev]

This is exactly what I’m saying :lmao

but it’s flying over the heads of some people

the team’s competitiveness alone and better team synergy will keep out of the top 8 again and people will cry.

Which is why Jak needs to go. That’s 5-10 games right there.

[Leetonidas]

Just don't see how they do it tbh. Even then, Irving has proven to be a cancer so whose to say he doesn't sink the Lakers like Westbrick?

KD demanding out has kinda forced BKs hand, and the market for Irving on a one year deal is incredibly limited. Irving is a cancer but the only time he ever fell in line was with LeBron. Westbrook just sucks, unlike Kyrie. If kyrie goes to LA and plays in 75% of their games and their glass forward doesn't miss 75% of the season i'd expect them to be a playoff team. while they were complete trash last year, a lot of that was due to injuries and poor fit with a bunch of washed up geezers on min deals.

Like i said i dont think they'll be a top seeded team but i dont expect them to miss the playoffs again

[RC_Drunkford]

Some of the best FA signing aren’t the marquee ones. Also, wasn’t comparing Morris to Smith,but one situation where you didn’t have the NBA GM Rolodex working for you, with another situation like that.

I haven’t heard anything =/= nothing’s happening.

actually the Morris thing got reported a couple days before it happened

[BatManu20]

Which is why Jak needs to go. That’s 5-10 games right there.

Yup. Literally zero reason for Jak to be on this team at the start of the season. He needs to be moved.

[BatManu20]

I’ll actually be really pissed if Jakob is still on this team in October.

[TDomination]

This game against the Nuggets in April is some of what we can expect without Murray:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCB2zBVmX2g

[scott]

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[poopbox]

What do you guys expect players to say?

“Yeah I’m looking forward to being dead last in the conference next year. Our team met today and decided on 22 wins being a realistic target.” :lol

"Well with Dejounte gone I don't have anyone to help me on defense so I know the guy I am guarding will have a career high but whatever I'm extension eligible so I'm trying to have another career year so I can get traded to":lol

[poopbox]

Slow down big guy……let’s see how we finish up free agency!

Finish...we haven't even started yet tbh :lol

[ducks]

Yup. Literally zero reason for Jak to be on this team at the start of the season. He needs to be moved.

Ayton has to be signed first

[dbestpro]

Expect Durant to get moved for other allstar vets. The Nets do not want to rebuld. I expect them to ask for Booker and Ayton (sign and trade) from the Suns or Butler plus from Miami. Moving Durant is not going to be simple as many think. Any draft capital would probably be generated from the Suns or Miami. Of course Sarver is notoriously cheap. It would not surprise me to see Dallas make a move for Durant. In the end wherever he goes and if the Spurs are involved we will be trading our signing room for very late in the draft picks.

[The Truth #6]

For the pro tanking crew, prepare to be disappointed :lmao

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1542921526265233414

I don't think any player wants to tank/play poorly because that affects their livelihood and next contract. It's all about who plays and who is on the team, basically a GM/coaching decision. But hey, I like his attitude. We want the players to keep working.

[mo7888]

Expect Durant to get moved for other allstar vets. The Nets do not want to rebuld. I expect them to ask for Booker and Ayton (sign and trade) from the Suns or Butler plus from Miami. Moving Durant is not going to be simple as many think. Any draft capital would probably be generated from the Suns or Miami. Of course Sarver is notoriously cheap. It would not surprise me to see Dallas make a move for Durant. In the end wherever he goes and if the Spurs are involved we will be trading our signing room for very late in the draft picks.

What all-star vets can Dallas send?

[lmbebo]

Expect Durant to get moved for other allstar vets. The Nets do not want to rebuld. I expect them to ask for Booker and Ayton (sign and trade) from the Suns or Butler plus from Miami. Moving Durant is not going to be simple as many think. Any draft capital would probably be generated from the Suns or Miami. Of course Sarver is notoriously cheap. It would not surprise me to see Dallas make a move for Durant. In the end wherever he goes and if the Spurs are involved we will be trading our signing room for very late in the draft picks.


Not sure what phoenix looks like without booker and with KD.

[spurraider21]

I’ll actually be really pissed if Jakob is still on this team in October.
yep. i remember being pissed that we didnt move LMA during the draft and then we ended up waiving him :lmao

[NASpurs]

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Trey Lyles :lol

Those were dark times, I'm glad we're on the other side of the tunnel now.

[mo7888]

If the Nets really want two all star types out of this deal there's really only a few teams that can deliver on that. I'm wondering if Danny Ainge would want to make a mark on his team by sending Gobert and Mitchell there for KD and Kyrie? They'd need to unload Conley and I'm sure we'd oblige for a future 1st and maybe Jared Butler...

That might be the best Brooklyn can do of they're committed to taking back players over picks..

[exstatic]

actually the Morris thing got reported a couple days before it happened

Actually, it wasn’t. We went through the entire moratorium thinking he was coming here and he dropped the bomb after it ended. He was talking to NY the whole time.

Oh, and newsflash. No one announces it while signing the contract at a news conference.. There’s always a day or two gap.

Waiting on the next plot twist to explain why you don't actually know how many teams are interested in Smith.

[exstatic]

Expect Durant to get moved for other allstar vets. The Nets do not want to rebuld. I expect them to ask for Booker and Ayton (sign and trade) from the Suns or Butler plus from Miami. Moving Durant is not going to be simple as many think. Any draft capital would probably be generated from the Suns or Miami. Of course Sarver is notoriously cheap. It would not surprise me to see Dallas make a move for Durant. In the end wherever he goes and if the Spurs are involved we will be trading our signing room for very late in the draft picks.

:lol. Dallas just lost their only asset not named Luka to the Knicks. They’ve got nothing.

[spurs10]

Actually, it wasn’t. We went through the entire moratorium thinking he was coming here and he dropped the bomb after it ended. He was talking to NY the whole time.

Oh, and newsflash. No one announces it while signing the contract at a news conference.. There’s always a day or two gap.

Waiting on the next plot twist to explain why you don't actually know how many teams are interested in Smith. :hungry:

[rjv]

Expect Durant to get moved for other allstar vets. The Nets do not want to rebuld. I expect them to ask for Booker and Ayton (sign and trade) from the Suns or Butler plus from Miami. Moving Durant is not going to be simple as many think. Any draft capital would probably be generated from the Suns or Miami. Of course Sarver is notoriously cheap. It would not surprise me to see Dallas make a move for Durant. In the end wherever he goes and if the Spurs are involved we will be trading our signing room for very late in the draft picks.

The Nets would have to get rid of Simmons somehow if they want Booker because Simmons already takes up the slot for the designated rookie rule. Booker would put the Nets over.

[John B]

i've mentioned it before, this team as is (with poeltl, johnson, vassell, primo) will win as many games as last year or close to it.
-tre jones looked sharp is many games as PG and is a great finisher at the rim
-vassell is getting better and is on the cusp of becoming really good from what i saw last year
-having a true 4 with sochan will already improve our defense.

unfortunately for tankers (me included) we will likely be between 8th or 10th worst team in the league. barring injuries. this team will not outright tank like portland did or okc or the rockets.

Not if Spurs move Poeltl :lol

And hey, that’s no approvation of Poeltl. He’s good but not of a rebuilding team with already offensive problem as it is. But everybody here, well mostly, knows that

[slick'81]

Not if Spurs move Poeltl :lol

And hey, that’s no approvation of Poeltl. He’s good but not of a rebuilding team with already offensive problem as it is.

exactly get what you can and burn this bitch down

[John B]

exactly get what you can and burn this bitch down

:( Well something like that

[slick'81]

:( Well something like that

Pray we get in the top3 .its our only hope

[RC_Drunkford]

Actually, it wasn’t. We went through the entire moratorium thinking he was coming here and he dropped the bomb after it ended. He was talking to NY the whole time.

Oh, and newsflash. No one announces it while signing the contract at a news conference.. There’s always a day or two gap.

Waiting on the next plot twist to explain why you don't actually know how many teams are interested in Smith.

It got reported that the Knicks are trying to get Morris right after they signed Reggie Bullock, but since you don't follow updates I'm not surprised that you don't know about it

[Thomas82]

Not sure what phoenix looks like without booker and with KD.

Well, we won't get to find out since Booker just got an extension from the Suns.

[Thomas82]

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Well, all of them are gone except for Keldon.

[koriwhat]

Well, all of them are gone except for Keldon.

Thank God for Keldon! He's the only one out of that group with balls and plays like a bull in a china shop. His passion is contagious and I am glad he's still here.

[tmtcsc]

i've mentioned it before, this team as is (with poeltl, johnson, vassell, primo) will win as many games as last year or close to it.
-tre jones looked sharp is many games as PG and is a great finisher at the rim
-vassell is getting better and is on the cusp of becoming really good from what i saw last year
-having a true 4 with sochan will already improve our defense.

unfortunately for tankers (me included) we will likely be between 8th or 10th worst team in the league. barring injuries. this team will not outright tank like portland did or okc or the rockets.

I wouldn't be surprised whatsoever. More so because although Murray put up good individual stats, he wasn't a game changer. He didn't win you games and his loss won't mean more L's in the loss column.

[Kurik]

Poeltl alone probably accounts for 8-10 wins, hopefully Spurs can get 1-2 FRPs for him if they are even thinking about it.

[baseline bum]

:lol

Could the Lakers possibly be worse than last year?

[exstatic]

Poeltl alone probably accounts for 8-10 wins, hopefully Spurs can get 1-2 FRPs for him if they are even thinking about it.

7 wins, by W/S.

[mystargtr34]

I could see the current Spurs roster with Poeltl get to 35 wins. Internal improvement of young guys plus Sochan strengthening a weak link in the chain at the 4 spot. This would make up a lot of Dejountes calories.

But if Poeltl is traded for picks and no other veterans are added I can see that win total dropping to 25 easily. It would be a layup line to the rim all season. There’s a big drop off to Collins.

Hopefully Josh Richardson also gets us a lottery protected FRP from a playoff team.

[bluebellmaniac]

Pray we get in the top3 .its our only hope

That's what they said to Obi-Wan

[Robz4000]

Could the Lakers possibly be worse than last year?

Lebron is getting up there in age and father time always wins in the end...

[exstatic]

I could see the current Spurs roster with Poeltl get to 35 wins. Internal improvement of young guys plus Sochan strengthening a weak link in the chain at the 4 spot. This would make up a lot of Dejountes calories.

But if Poeltl is traded for picks and no other veterans are added I can see that win total dropping to 25 easily. It would be a layup line to the rim all season. There’s a big drop off to Collins.

Hopefully Josh Richardson also gets us a lottery protected FRP from a playoff team.

In his second season, Zack was in the top 3-4 in opp FG% at the rim. We didn’t just go get him because he shot 3 pointers. Jock did that, and was a lot cheaper.

[RC_Drunkford]

Would be ideal to make Zach the starting C and then trade him as well next offseason

[Thomas82]

Thank God for Keldon! He's the only one out of that group with balls and plays like a bull in a china shop. His passion is contagious and I am glad he's still here.

Keldon is the saving grace from the 2019 draft.

[Thomas82]

Lebron is getting up there in age and father time always wins in the end...

That's right, LeBron is going into Year 20 and will be 38 in December.

[Proxy]

That's right, LeBron is going into Year 20 and will be 38 in December.

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[Drom John]

7 wins, by W/S.

Poeltl 6.8 by FiveThirtyEight VORP

Murray 7.0

Walker -0.4

[Mal]

Just move Jacob, go full tank.

[Atl Spur]

haha “Everything will be alright”
Atl Spur you write that for Keldon homie?

That man was telling the truth😳

[T Park]

Could the Lakers possibly be worse than last year?

Looks like it so far ��