Send Gobert to T-Pups

[lefty]

https://twitter.com/tribjazz/status/1542958765909037056?s=21

[sickdsm]

https://twitter.com/tribjazz/status/1542958765909037056?s=21

I've always liked defensive first guys like Gobert. Unfortunately MN has always under valued draft picks. If healthy and Edwards takes the next step and KAT acknowledges he's a number 2. They would beat title contender. I don't think that happens though. This is Edwards team. Trading guys like Beas for Gobert means more shots for AE. In the end I think this will spotlight KATS shortcomings because it's always been if only he had another big to rebound and play defense. No excuses now.

[LkrFan]

Must be nice when teams don't have to pay a Laker tax. SMH

[Ef-man]

Must be nice when teams don't have to pay a Laker tax. SMH

What good is a large cap space when you have Lebrick, AintDressed, and Westbrick to console you.

[baseline bum]

Jazz should just trade Mitchell and tank. But I'm glad they're not because we don't need more shitty teams in the West trying to out tank the Spurs.

[Rosewood]

Wow four first rounders? 3 unprotected?? Did I read that right?

Nut up or shut up year for KAT tbh.

[Robz4000]

Just a retarded all-around trade for Minny tbh.

[baseline bum]

Wow four first rounders? 3 unprotected?? Did I read that right?

Nut up or shut up year for KAT tbh.

Fourth one is also only top 5 protected for 2029.

[baseline bum]

Just a retarded all-around trade for Minny tbh.

Doesn't make two ATL picks, a swap in 2026 that probably won't mean shit since the Spurs will still be in the lottery, and likely two seconds in 2026 look like so much of a haul anymore does it?

[Robz4000]

Doesn't make two ATL picks, a swap in 2026 that probably won't mean shit since the Spurs will still be in the lottery, and likely two seconds in 2026 look like so much of a haul anymore does it?

:lol said at the time the Spurs easily could've gotten a better package. That being said, KD announcing his trade request could've killed Murray's market anyway.

[sickdsm]

Fourth one is also only top 5 protected for 2029.
Plus pick swap in 26 and this year's 22 overall pick.

[sickdsm]

Its said that two of those picks were in place instead of adding Jayden McDaniels. I'd find that believable. His ceiling is sky high. That being said the longer i think about it the more i'm ok with it. As much as I hate KAT, he is entering his prime. You have Black Jesus a few years away from entering his in Edwards. Gobert is still only 30 years old. You don't add some pieces you'll end up wasting it away like the blazers have done with Lillard. And i'm a big Dame fan. I get it. I'd still love to entertain the thought of trading KAT although that won't happen until a blow up. The NBA is a broken system. Players love to play in warm climates, income tax free states, or big time stages like NY or LA. You gotta go all in the rest of the area because your window is short. No free agency, players dictating where they get traded, refusal to play or even disruptive play.

Broken system.

[baseline bum]

Its said that two of those picks were in place instead of adding Jayden McDaniels. I'd find that believable. His ceiling is sky high. That being said the longer i think about it the more i'm ok with it. As much as I hate KAT, he is entering his prime. You have Black Jesus a few years away from entering his in Edwards. Gobert is still only 30 years old. You don't add some pieces you'll end up wasting it away like the blazers have done with Lillard. And i'm a big Dame fan. I get it. I'd still love to entertain the thought of trading KAT although that won't happen until a blow up. The NBA is a broken system. Players love to play in warm climates, income tax free states, or big time stages like NY or LA. You gotta go all in the rest of the area because your window is short. No free agency, players dictating where they get traded, refusal to play or even disruptive play.

Broken system.

Hope it works out for you guys, I'm a big Edwards fan.

[mystargtr34]

Rudy Gobert >> Dejounte Murray. The Wolves overpaid sure, but there's no way Dejounte is worth what Gobert got. Gobert has had the Jazz winning 50-60 games and winning playoff series while Murray was leading the Spurs to 34 wins.

Plus Gobert had 2 extra years on his deal. Atlanta likely only gets Murray for two seasons.

Given the above, Gobert is easily worth an extra unprotected pick over Murray, probably two.

[baseline bum]

Rudy Gobert >> Dejounte Murray. The Wolves overpaid sure, but there's no way Dejounte is worth what Gobert got. Gobert has had the Jazz winning 50-60 games and winning playoff series while Murray was leading the Spurs to 34 wins.

Plus Gobert had 2 extra years on his deal. Atlanta likely only gets Murray for two seasons.

Given the above, Gobert is easily worth an extra unprotected pick over Murray, probably two.

Hence why they got two extra firsts.

[mystargtr34]

I don't hate the trade from a Wolves perspective either tbh. Its a lot, but the KAT-Edwards 1-2 punch was not leading the Wolves anywhere past the 2nd round. Both have too many deficiencies defensively and with playmaking.

Gobert-Towns-McDaniels-Edwards-Russell is pretty good on both ends provided McDaniels can cover the other teams best perimeter player effectively.

[mystargtr34]

Hence why they got two extra firsts.

Yep exactly. My comment was in response to quite a few Spurs fans who are now saying Spurs didn't get the right value for Murray based on Gobert getting 2 extra picks. Market was right for both players imo with the Wolves maybe overpaying slightly more above above actual value vs what the Hawks did.

[baseline bum]

Yep exactly. My comment was in response to quite a few Spurs fans who are now saying Spurs didn't get the right value for Murray based on Gobert getting 2 extra picks. Market was right for both players imo with the Wolves maybe overpaying slightly more above above actual value vs what the Hawks did.

Just not buying the hype they're trying to sell upstairs that it was some amazing trade for the Spurs. Spurs lost the trade, but oh well they didn't want to pay him so no reason not to do it then.

[mystargtr34]

Just not buying the hype they're trying to sell upstairs that it was some amazing trade for the Spurs. Spurs lost the trade, but oh well they didn't want to pay him so no reason not to do it then.

Impossible to say imo. Depends on two things. What Dejounte does in two years when his contract is up and what happens to the Hawks in 2025-2027 where the two picks and pick swap fall.

Could easily see a scenario where the Hawks lose in the 1st or 2nd round the next two seasons in the playoffs (Bucks, Celtics, Philly, Miami and maybe Toronto are all still better than Atlanta imo) and Murray signs a max or close to max deal elsewhere. Could also see Trae Young wanting out in two years if he realises he needs to play with a superstar to be a legit contender.

But I'm a bit bias, I like the trade and wanted the Spurs to trade Murray for picks once I heard the rumours.

[Killakobe81]

Just not buying the hype they're trying to sell upstairs that it was some amazing trade for the Spurs. Spurs lost the trade, but oh well they didn't want to pay him so no reason not to do it then.

Amazing?! No. But not the horrible deal some think it is.
I think it’s fair unless DJ takes a leap a big one.

[baseline bum]

Amazing?! No. But not the horrible deal some think it is.
I think it’s fair unless DJ takes a leap a big one.

Meh it's two firsts, a pick swap that probably won't be used because the Spurs will still be shitty in 2026 unless they get the #1 pick next year, and a pick from Charlotte so heavily protected it has a great shot at becoming two seconds.

[DMC]

You could go through a lot of 1st round picks and not get anyone nearly as decent as Gobert. Why do people think 1st round picks are so great? I get they are better than 2nd round picks mostly, but the players that make the difference are either 1st overall or diamonds in the rough and there aren't that many diamonds.

[ambchang]

The best part is that the spurs will suck this year and likely the next few years and get higher picks. That’s part of trading DJ away as well.

Instead of getting a #9 pick the spurs will pick in the top five. That’s the difference between a sochan and a Ivey or even banchero. Ie tank.

[FrostKing]

Timberwolves had 4-1st Round picks after the KG trade and spent 3 of them on Point Guards :lol

[baseline bum]

Timberwolves had 4-1st Round picks after the KG trade and spent 3 of them on Point Guards :lol

Johnny Flynn over Steph Curry will never stop being funny

[horseshue]

Rudy Gobert >> Dejounte Murray. The Wolves overpaid sure, but there's no way Dejounte is worth what Gobert got. Gobert has had the Jazz winning 50-60 games and winning playoff series while Murray was leading the Spurs to 34 wins.

Plus Gobert had 2 extra years on his deal. Atlanta likely only gets Murray for two seasons.

Given the above, Gobert is easily worth an extra unprotected pick over Murray, probably two.

Luka showed us all, what the real value of gobert is. Too bad, they don't show play- offs in minny on tv, otherwise they wouldn't made this shitty trade.

[sickdsm]

Johnny Flynn over Steph Curry will never stop being funny

A guy dictating that he won't play for a team you mean? That just reinforces my above point.

[sickdsm]

Luka showed us all, what the real value of gobert is. Too bad, they don't show play- offs in minny on tv, otherwise they wouldn't made this shitty trade.

KAT for all his offensive talent as a big is a pretty shitty pnr guy. He can't set a screen to save his life. I'm sure you watched the playoffs and the foul trouble he gets into when setting screens. Gobert is great at setting screens. I expect Dlo to rachet up his assists and Rudy is going to get some easy lobs. KAT switches to the 4. He's an interesting guy to defend. He basically made Steven Adams unplayable in that Memphis series. The one guy that gave his trouble is now his backup. He will absolutely eat you alive if you don't get up on him beyond the arc and you need to do that with a frontcourt player. He has such a quick, flatfooted release that if your a 6'7 or smaller guy he doesn't even notice you. If healthy i think this forces teams to not play small ball. Putting a small on KAT was his weakness but now that he's a 7ft pf it changes the dynamics. Wolves were almost a top ten D in spite of KAT. Jazz were a top ten D because of Rudy. Wolves even without Bev are still quite a bit better perimeter defensively than the jazz. I just hope when teams single out a big on the screens that its gobert and not KAT. My guy i wanted was Ben Simmons. I think that worked better and quite a bit cheaper deal would have been had. Who knows how bad he would have been mentally in MN though.

[gambit1990]

haven't really looked at the deal but i liked the risk by the wolves tbh.

[sickdsm]

Lot of fallout from this trade. Inflated market, etc.



There was a post on a wolves Fbook group.

Went something like this:

What the League just figured out is that because of this trade the "Tundra Tax" that they forced onto Minnesota and other non-coastal/warm weather teams is no longer a tax, it is now a League-wide reality.


I love this line.