Woj: Spurs Claim Isaiah Roby Off Waivers

[BatManu20]

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[DPG21920]

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Love it. Exactly the type of low risk solid upside gambles SA should be taking.

[BatManu20]

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[duncan2150]

Good news. I liked Roby back in the day when he was drafted then i was more skeptical. Overall it's a good to try him.

[Ditty]

Why did OKC release him in the first place ? Sorry been out of the loop for the last few days for the most part.

[Mr. Body]

We got Isaiah, we got Malachi. Now we need Nebuchadnezzar, Shadrach, and Moab.

[RC_Drunkford]

Good move. OKC probably needed some roster spots to sign all those rookies

[Degoat]

Called it lol that’s a tanking move boys lol

[Mr. Body]

Why did OKC release him in the first place ? Sorry been out of the loop for the last few days for the most part.

Too many draft picks, not enough roster spots. Presti is a genius.

[Dex]

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Seems like a more coordinated Kyle Anderson

[spurraider21]

good decision. very low risk. guy has shown he can play some. positional versatility. keep taking swings at guys like this.

though the spurs' willingness to bring on Roby has me more confused about the seeming lack of pursuit of Jalen Smith, a similar caliber prospect who fits the same mold/timeline

[exstatic]

Seems like a more coordinated Kyle Anderson

He’s a center, in spite of his 6’8” height. Not able to defend the perimeter. Can shoot a bit.

[Robz4000]

Great pick up imo :tu

[DPG21920]

good decision. very low risk. guy has shown he can play some. positional versatility. keep taking swings at guys like this.

though the spurs' willingness to bring on Roby has me more confused about the seeming lack of pursuit of Jalen Smith, a similar caliber prospect who fits the same mold/timeline

Money.

[Desert Spur]

Look out Golden State, here we come

[Leetonidas]

Nice. We actually have a couple PFs on the roster now

[baseline bum]

We tanking. Spurs should be claiming Rick Robey off waivers to be the starting 5.

[jeebus]

Solid tank commander. That's all he is.

[Mr. Body]

good decision. very low risk. guy has shown he can play some. positional versatility. keep taking swings at guys like this.

though the spurs' willingness to bring on Roby has me more confused about the seeming lack of pursuit of Jalen Smith, a similar caliber prospect who fits the same mold/timeline

Roby is quite a bit cheaper. And Jalen Smith, while coming around on offense, still has pretty bad defensive metrics.

[KingKev]

How will the effect Josh Primo’s legacy?

[Big Empty]

24
6’8
7’3 wingspan

[Ariel]

Too many draft picks, not enough roster spots. Presti is a genius.
That's like having more bills that your wallet can accommodate... a problem you could live with.

[Atl Spur]

He’s not a bum. Nice pickup.

[Dhbsr555]

Does this mean McDermott is gone

[GAustex]

How will the effect Josh Primo’s legacy?
LOL

[Ariel]

Good move. So far, looks like a decent (non "process" like) text book rebuild.

[Ariel]

Does this mean McDermott is gone
We can only hope...

[duncan2150]

He’s a center, in spite of his 6’8” height. Not able to defend the perimeter. Can shoot a bit.

Yes defending the perimeter looks like one of his weaknesses.

[Mugen]

Nice. Another step towards Jakob being traded.

[BatManu20]

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[Dverde]

I like the move. He probably won’t be anything special, but there is upside there. He shot 44% from 3PT line and can finish at the rim.

[duncan2150]

Why did OKC release him in the first place ? Sorry been out of the loop for the last few days for the most part.


They have a lot of potentials PF : Bazley, Holmgren, Robinson Earl, Poku so they choose to get rid of Robby who was a little bit inconsistent with the Thunder.

[BatManu20]

Age: 24
Height: 6’8
Weight: 230 lbs.
Wingspan: 7’3


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[Dverde]

Nice. Another step towards Jakob being traded.

He seems more like a replacement for McBuckets or Zach Collins to me.

[spurraider21]

Roby is quite a bit cheaper. And Jalen Smith, while coming around on offense, still has pretty bad defensive metrics.
if smith ends up sucking, he helps the tank. win win

[Chinook]

He knows how to tank. I'll give him that....


He was actually my guy a few years ago. Was annoyed Dallas got him. The team has another versatile front court player to go with Sochan.

[TD 21]

The most likely scenario is probably he competes with Bates-Diop for a roster spot.

[Dejounte]

Guess Cacok aint coming back

[KingKev]

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haha posting a video like this will have half of Spurstalk extrapolating that game to future Spurs HoF status. We did it again!!!

[Davidicus2]

Finally someone to replace Derrick White’s fro

[BatManu20]

haha posting a video like this will have half of Spurstalk extrapolating that game to future Spurs HoF status. We did it again!!!

Yea that game was also against Portland‘s G-league team during their epic tank, so definitely take it with a grain of salt.

[KingKev]

Yea that game was also against Portland‘s G-league team during their epic tank, so definitely take it with a grain of salt.

haha no no he was just outplaying another former “young Spurs asset” named Drew Eubanks lol

[TDomination]

We got Isaiah, we got Malachi. Now we need Nebuchadnezzar, Shadrach, and Moab.
don't forget we have Joshua as well :D

[timtonymanu]

haha posting a video like this will have half of Spurstalk extrapolating that game to future Spurs HoF status. We did it again!!!

Boris Diaw replacement!

Hopefully he’s better than Trey Lyles at least

[BatManu20]

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[td4mvp2k]

not surprised they claimed since he fits right in. good move gives them more experience on the bench.

[paperboy77]

We are gonna be a sad sight to behold next year.

[BatManu20]

We are gonna be a sad sight to behold next year.

That’s the idea. Much better than being middle-of-the-road again.

[BatManu20]

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[TD 21]

He’s a center, in spite of his 6’8” height. Not able to defend the perimeter. Can shoot a bit.

No, he's not. Throw out the 5% at SF, 48% at PF and 47% at C splits, as they're mostly a product of roster construction.

The only two C's the Thunder had were Favors (16.7 mpg in 39 games) and Muscala (13.8 mpg in 43 games), which forced Robinson-Earl and him to play plenty out of position.

[John B]

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Ayton next?

[Chinook]

I don't think the Spurs would hesitate to play Roby at the five. They probably don't consider that his main position, but I'm sure they consider him depth there. Between Barlow, Sochan and Roby, the Spurs probably feel like they can get away with Collins and Dieng as the only centers if it comes to that. They can also keep three centers and just have their forward spots filled.

[exstatic]

No, he's not. Throw out the 5% at SF, 48% at PF and 47% at C splits, as they're mostly a product of roster construction.

The only two C's the Thunder had were Favors (16.7 mpg in 39 games) and Muscala (13.8 mpg in 43 games), which forced Robinson-Earl and him to play plenty out of position.

Each year he was there, he played more C. He can’t defend the perimeter well enough to be considered a PF. He doesn’t defend the paint much, either. He’s more or less a shorter Landale, a scrapper who can shoot some, but a minus defender.

[SpursFan86]

If he performs well this year and we want to retain him, will he be an RFA or UFA?

[Seventyniner]

No, he's not. Throw out the 5% at SF, 48% at PF and 47% at C splits, as they're mostly a product of roster construction.

The only two C's the Thunder had were Favors (16.7 mpg in 39 games) and Muscala (13.8 mpg in 43 games), which forced Robinson-Earl and him to play plenty out of position.

In his 1425 minutes in 2020-2021, he played 24% SF/46% PF/30% C. That's a strange split.

If he really can't guard the perimeter then he might be a 50% PF/50% C with the Spurs, but with him at C that's a very small lineup.

But the Spurs aren't trying to win now and he's both cheap and only 24. I grade this as a "sure, why not".

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

We staaaaacked

[John B]

I seriously rooting for Nets just ironing it out with KD and Kyrie. Fakers not getting bailed out, CP0 not getting KD as his last hoorah, and not converting Nets picks as lottery picks to Rockets. Dieng then Roby now instead of later. :wakeup

[R. DeMurre]

We got Isaiah, we got Malachi. Now we need Nebuchadnezzar, Shadrach, and Moab.


don't forget we have Joshua as well :D

I suppose you could say that Brian Wright is playing the part of Onan, saving his best seed for the future.

[TD 21]

Each year he was there, he played more C.


Throw out the splits, as they're mostly a product of roster construction.

[Ariel]

Age: 24
Height: 6’8
Weight: 230 lbs.
Wingspan: 7’3
Combine measurements (more accurate... not that it's a huge difference though)
Height (w/o shoes): 6'7.25"
Standing Reach: 8'10"
Wingspan: 7'1"
https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?SeasonYear=2019-20
(https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?SeasonYear=2019-20)

[Degoat]

Something does smell fishy imo it’s been so quiet on the spurs front since the DJ trade

[benefactor]

But the Spurs aren't trying to win now and he's both cheap and only 24. I grade this as a "sure, why not".
tbh

[exstatic]

I seriously rooting for Nets just ironing it out with KD and Kyrie. Fakers not getting bailed out, CP0 not getting KD as his last hoorah, and not converting Nets picks as lottery picks to Rockets. Dieng then Roby now instead of later. :wakeup

KD, maybe. They have time. No way they keep Kyrie.

[emanueldavidginobili]

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[exstatic]

I seriously rooting for Nets just ironing it out with KD and Kyrie. Fakers not getting bailed out, CP0 not getting KD as his last hoorah, and not converting Nets picks as lottery picks to Rockets. Dieng then Roby now instead of later. :wakeup

KD, maybe. They have time. No way they keep Kyrie.

[emanueldavidginobili]

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[R. DeMurre]

When Two Tanks Collide, a heartwarming story of two NBA teams.

[poopbox]

Has he embraced Josh Primo yet? Might not be a culture fit if he hasn't.

[John B]

If he performs well this year and we want to retain him, will he be an RFA or UFA?

I think he’s UFA after this season?

[Philthemage]

Thought he would as a pretty good defender from the games I watched while he was at OKC. If he could evolve into like a PJ Tucker / Draymond Green type of role on offense, that would be tremendous.

[callo1]

Wow! Nice get for the Spurs FO. I really liked this kids game in OKC. Very solid defender with the ability to guard 3 through smallball 5.

[The Truth #6]

Early July: awesome pick up!!

Late November: great another pet for Pop. He’s stealing Sochan’s minutes!

That would be hilarious.

[DAF86]

That’s the idea. Much better than being middle-of-the-road again.

In the long run, sure. But just focusing on the next season as game watching fans it's gonna be weird seeing your team hoping they lose. Despite not being a playoffs team last season, the season was quite entertaining as a fan, tbh.

[Dex]

☝️Why would the Spurs do this? ☝️

That's what all the other executives in the league are wondering?

[KingKev]

☝️Why would the Spurs do this? ☝️

That's what all the other executives in the league are wondering?

Basically what most execs have been wondering for 5 yrs.

[ace3g]

One thing I immediately noticed in Isiah Roby highlights is his ability to dunk with his off (left) hand with ease.

[Dejounte]

The Spurs are no longer mismatched by size. They have it at every position.

[Dejounte]

G - Tre Jones
G - Blake Wesley
G/W - Josh Primo
W - Vassell
W - Josh Richardson
W - Malaki Branham
W - Wieskamp (QO)
W - Romeo Langford
F - Keldon Johnson
F - McDermott
F - Dominick Barlow (2W)
F/C - Jeremy Sochan
F/C - KBD
F/C - Isaiah Roby
C - Poeltl
C - Z. Collins
C - G. Dieng

Does the Qualifying Offer convert to a guaranteed contract for Wieskamp? If so, one has to think Langford will be waived soon.

[Mr. Body]

G - Tre Jones
G - Blake Wesley
G/W - Josh Primo
W - Vassell
W - Josh Richardson
W - Malaki Branham
W - Wieskamp (QO)
W - Romeo Langford
F - Keldon Johnson
F - McDermott
F - Dominick Barlow (2W)
F/C - Jeremy Sochan
F/C - KBD
F/C - Isaiah Roby
C - Poeltl
C - Z. Collins
C - G. Dieng

Does the Qualifying Offer convert to a guaranteed contract for Wieskamp? If so, one has to think Langford will be waived soon.




I've thought Romeo Langford has been a dead man walking for a while.

This looks like the roster barring the unexpected like a Poeltl trade.

[td4mvp2k]

The Spurs are no longer mismatched by size. They have it at every position.
roby gives you another guy with that added size i felt they needed in the frontcourt who can do more than kbd.

[Ariel]

Does the Qualifying Offer convert to a guaranteed contract for Wieskamp? If so, one has to think Langford will be waived soon.
Langford's contract is guaranteed (4th year rookie deal), I think KBD's isn't.

[XDT76]

G - Tre Jones
G - Blake Wesley
G/W - Josh Primo
W - Vassell
W - Josh Richardson
W - Malaki Branham
W - Wieskamp (QO)
W - Romeo Langford
F - Keldon Johnson
F - McDermott
F - Dominick Barlow (2W)
F/C - Jeremy Sochan
F/C - KBD
F/C - Isaiah Roby
C - Poeltl
C - Z. Collins
C - G. Dieng

Does the Qualifying Offer convert to a guaranteed contract for Wieskamp? If so, one has to think Langford will be waived soon.




His QO could be for TW contract

[XDT76]

His QO could be for TW contract

I was wrong it's a QO with $1.92M

[exstatic]

His QO could be for TW contract

No. At the end of the season, he and Cacok were converted from 2 ways to NBA contracts. His QO is for an NBA contract.

[BatManu20]

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[wildbill2u]

We got Isaiah, we got Malachi. Now we need Nebuchadnezzar, Shadrach, and Moab.

If Pop wants some nasty, maybe there is a Senerachib playing somewhere.

[heyheymymy]

Roby-Wan Kenobi

[cutewizard]

this man can play!!!

we are stackkkkkeeeeddddd.............!

[Maddog]

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If he's a good one why did they cut him?
Was his BMI too high for the Thunder?

[exstatic]

If he's a good one why did they cut him?
Was his BMI too high for the Thunder?

They have too many youngsters, and future assets. Eventually, they’ll be cutting FRPs, and Poku might be the first.

[Atl Spur]

They have too many youngsters, and future assets. Eventually, they’ll be cutting FRPs, and Poku might be the first.

This is why assets must be flipped for vets and deferred over time. No sense in drafting youngsters every year to only release them.

[The Truth #6]

He was a late second round pick, so I guess they felt ok moving on. I'm definitely interested to see some of his recent OKC footage. And hopefully his shot last season wasn't a fluke.

[exstatic]

He was a late second round pick, so I guess they felt ok moving on. I'm definitely interested to see some of his recent OKC footage. And hopefully his shot last season wasn't a fluke.

Small sample size on his 3 pointer, 2.2 atts/game for 45 games. It could easily be a fluke, based on the year before and his meh FT shooting.

[heyheymymy]

If he's a good one why did they cut him?
Was his BMI too high for the Thunder?

In the end, Roby was not a culture fit with the Thin Towers

[Atl Spur]

He’s definitely worth the 1.9 investment.

[Chomag]

All indications I see is that he can be a pretty productive player if given the right situation. Not a bad signing and gives us some depth honestly

[J_Paco]

I don't think the Spurs would hesitate to play Roby at the five. They probably don't consider that his main position, but I'm sure they consider him depth there. Between Barlow, Sochan and Roby, the Spurs probably feel like they can get away with Collins and Dieng as the only centers if it comes to that. They can also keep three centers and just have their forward spots filled.

Hold onto the three centers and all the PF's then try to flip one, two or all (maybe none) of Jakob, Zach and/or Gorgui at the deadline.

I could see more than a few teams (Utah, Toronto, Los Angeles [Lakers], etc.) that need a starting center giving up a 1st and multiple 2nd's for Jakob come February.

I like Bates - Diop, but if it comes down to him or Roby, the Spurs need to go with the younger guy with higher offensive upside.

[KingKev]

^
- You aren’t getting shit for Dieng unless you play him 25mins a game, he balls out and then maybe you get an SRP. The people on here who think Dieng is even comparable to Thad are the same folks who thought Landale, Satoransky and Jauncho were strategic long term pieces aka clueless.

- The time to sell on Jak is NOW.

- Let Collins sink or swim and you may have another asset you can monetize at the deadline or next off-season.

[paperboy77]

That’s the idea. Much better than being middle-of-the-road again.

No one said I have to like it.

[exstatic]

Hold onto the three centers and all the PF's then try to flip one, two or all (maybe none) of Jakob, Zach and/or Gorgui at the deadline.

I could see more than a few teams (Utah, Toronto, Los Angeles [Lakers], etc.) that need a starting center giving up a 1st and multiple 2nd's for Jakob come February.

I like Bates - Diop, but if it comes down to him or Roby, the Spurs need to go with the younger guy with higher offensive upside.
Lakers have two FRPs in the trade window, up to 2029, and one or two swap possibilities. With that, they have to pay to get Russ to go away, and pay for Kyrie. They probably don’t have enough capital to get both done, and they definitely don’t have enough to go after a center if they were to pull of a miracle.

[Russ]

Isaiah Roby looks and plays very similar to Jalen Williams (OKC 1st round draft pick). (Is it the hairstyles?)

Roby is a bit bigger -- 6'8" vs. 6'6" and a bit older -- 24 vs. 21.

But they both move about the same, with similar quickness (for better or worse) and a nice efficient feel for the game. Very deliberate but sneakily effective. Hang around and thrive.

Upside is somewhat limited for both, they look like role players. (I was relieved when the Spurs didn't take Williams in the first round although it seemed very unlikely.)

But a waiver pick up of a player like that could be a bargain.

You can see why Presti dumped Roby after he drafted Williams -- too similar.

(Which begs the question, was Roby's waiver an under the table favor by Presti? Does someone know the status of relations between Presti and the Spurs? Just asking.)

[benefactor]

There's absolutely nothing to hate about this move. With the ridiculous salaries players are getting now getting a guy like Roby at 1.9 million is a steal. Perfect fit for a team looking for quality depth during a rebuild.

[dbestpro]

We got Isaiah, we got Malachi. Now we need Nebuchadnezzar, Shadrach, and Moab.

Clever post.

[John B]

Isaiah Roby looks and plays very similar to Jalen Williams (OKC 1st round draft pick). (Is it the hairstyles?)

Roby is a bit bigger -- 6'8" vs. 6'6" and a bit older -- 24 vs. 21.

But they both move about the same, with similar quickness (for better or worse) and a nice efficient feel for the game. Very deliberate but sneakily effective. Hang around and thrive.

Upside is somewhat limited for both, they look like role players. (I was relieved when the Spurs didn't take Williams in the first round although it seemed very unlikely.)

But a waiver pick up of a player like that could be a bargain.

You can see why Presti dumped Roby after he drafted Williams -- too similar.

(Which begs the question, was Roby's waiver an under the table favor by Presti? Does someone know the status of relations between Presti and the Spurs? Just asking.)

You can always tie the connection on Presti and Spurs. Although it took over 24 hrs until Spurs announced they picked up the waiver.

[Philthemage]

According to Bobby Marks on twitter:
"San Antonio was 9th in the claim order (standings from the 2021-22 season)"

I didn't realize there was such a rule in place.

[Atl Spur]

Spurs must be living right! This kid is our type of player and I dis agree with most of you, he has some more growth potential! Watch his exit interview from this year…….. he needed to be a spur!!!

[Ice009]

According to Bobby Marks on twitter:
"San Antonio was 9th in the claim order (standings from the 2021-22 season)"

I didn't realize there was such a rule in place.

How does it work claiming players off of waivers? I really don't know how that works as I haven't seen the Spurs do it hardly at all.

[toki9]

How does it work claiming players off of waivers? I really don't know how that works as I haven't seen the Spurs do it hardly at all.

“Once a player is waived, he is released to the “waiver wire” or just “waivers” in short. All NBA teams are notified and have a chance to make a claim on the player within 48 hours…

If there are multiple teams that make a claim during the 48-hour period, then the team with the lowest spot in the latest NBA standings officially claims the player. This gives the chance for the bottom teams to improve their roster.”

[Ariel]

(Which begs the question, was Roby's waiver an under the table favor by Presti? Does someone know the status of relations between Presti and the Spurs? Just asking.)
No idea, but Presti looks like the kind of guy who would ask for retribution to help his granny.

[toki9]

(Which begs the question, was Roby's waiver an under the table favor by Presti? Does someone know the status of relations between Presti and the Spurs? Just asking.)

Probably not, given how the waiver system works…Roby’s agent could have warned off other teams ahead of the Spurs, I suppose, but seems like a complicated way for Presti to do a favor for the Spurs

[Cabrito]

Nobody claimed Roby ahead of the Spurs because any team is on the hook for the guaranteed contract once the waiver is awarded. There is no conspiracy

[toki9]

No idea, but Presti looks like the kind of guy who would ask for retribution to help his granny.

GM of an NBA team is probably one of those jobs where it helps to have a bit of socipathic qualities.

[Ice009]

“Once a player is waived, he is released to the “waiver wire” or just “waivers” in short. All NBA teams are notified and have a chance to make a claim on the player within 48 hours…

If there are multiple teams that make a claim during the 48-hour period, then the team with the lowest spot in the latest NBA standings officially claims the player. This gives the chance for the bottom teams to improve their roster.”




Thanks. What does it mean, though, that the Spurs were 9th in the claim order? Does that mean 9 other teams tried to claim him?

[Mr. Body]

Thanks. What does it mean, though, that the Spurs were 9th in the claim order? Does that mean 9 other teams tried to claim him?

It just means the Spurs had the 9th worst record last year. If a team with a worse record than them claimed Roby, they'd get him.

[Ice009]

It just means the Spurs had the 9th worst record last year. If a team with a worse record than them claimed Roby, they'd get him.

Oh OK, thanks. That is crystal clear. So if a team had a worse record than the Spurs and they claimed him, they would have gotten him before the Spurs?

[toki9]

Oh OK, thanks. That is crystal clear. So if a team had a worse record than the Spurs and they claimed him, they would have gotten him before the Spurs?

Yes. So once a player gets waived, there's officially little they can do to control where they go--apart from the player's agent warning teams off, etc.

[rascal]

“Once a player is waived, he is released to the “waiver wire” or just “waivers” in short. All NBA teams are notified and have a chance to make a claim on the player within 48 hours…

If there are multiple teams that make a claim during the 48-hour period, then the team with the lowest spot in the latest NBA standings officially claims the player. This gives the chance for the bottom teams to improve their roster.”




After the claim is made do the spurs move to the bottom of future waivers?

[exstatic]

After the claim is made do the spurs move to the bottom of future waivers?

I don’t think so.

[toki9]

After the claim is made do the spurs move to the bottom of future waivers?

The NBA by-law section dealing with waiver only mentions “latest standing” in determining waiver priority—which means that priority list would change over the course of the season. So successfully claiming a waived player does not seem to affect subsequent priority order. Please correct me if someone has better knowledge.

[Philthemage]

Interesting. So which means even if Roby isn't part of the Spurs' long term plans, they've picked up a potential asset which they could use to trade in the future because of this waiver position.

[Eaglenole2002]

Does it ever leak out when teams make a waiver claim on a player but they’re sniped? Mostly wondering if other teams put a claim in. It leaks all the time in the NFL.

[Ice009]

Interesting. So which means even if Roby isn't part of the Spurs' long term plans, they've picked up a potential asset which they could use to trade in the future because of this waiver position.

Wouldn't he just now be fully under contract with the Spurs? What does his waiver position have to do with if the Spurs want to trade him later on?

[Philthemage]

Wouldn't he just now be fully under contract with the Spurs? What does his waiver position have to do with if the Spurs want to trade him later on?

Yeah, what I meant was, if there are teams which were below us in terms of prioritily to pick him up and actually wanted him but couldnt because we grabbed him first.

[rankingtear]

There is a time period where anyone can register a claim, after that time period then the lowest in the order gets the player. Because Roby is in the fourth year of his contract that eliminates teams without cap space or trade exception. The notable teams who decided to pass was IND and DET.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFfen0mj9L8

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DET4h8Z5pw

[lmbebo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFfen0mj9L8

Video really didn't say much, just repeated himself for 2+ mins with hitting subscribe button throughout

[KingKev]

Video really didn't say much, just repeated himself for 2+ mins with hitting subscribe button throughout

haha main reason I don’t even consider watching these videos. Verbal diarrhea followed by if you like my content click the bell …also cash app, paypal, amazon wishlist in my bio.

[ace3g]

Roby at the SL game tonight.

[playbonner15]

I wonder if this guy and Wesley will see the floor together.... Should be interesting

[John B]

Roby at the SL game tonight.

We might finally win :lol

[heyheymymy]

Any word on roby jersey number with spurs

[Uriel]

Who claims the backup 4 spot in the rotation? KBD or Roby?

[KingKev]

Who claims the backup 4 spot in the rotation? KBD or Roby?

I wouldn’t assume Sochan starts from the jump.

[TimmehC]

Rookies need to get over themselves. :pop:

Clearly this is about who backs up McDermott.

[exstatic]

I wouldn’t assume Sochan starts from the jump.

Kawhi didn’t. His rookie season was lockout II, 66 games, and I think he started 40ish games.

[KingKev]

Kawhi didn’t. His rookie season was lockout II, 66 games, and I think he started 40ish games.

That’s probably a good comp as Kawhi got starting minutes as a rookie because of his effort on the defensive end which will be the reason Sochan probably eventually gets the nod.

We still don’t know the roster and if McDermott and Jak are here on opening day they both start.

An argument against Sochan starting is this team is going to struggle to put up points. The hypothetical ST favourited line up of: Primo, Vassell, Keldon, Sochan, Jak will be an absolute disaster on the offensive end.

[Atl Spur]

That’s probably a good comp as Kawhi got starting minutes as a rookie because of his effort on the defensive end which will be the reason Sochan probably eventually gets the nod.

We still don’t know the roster and if McDermott and Jak are here on opening day they both start.

An argument against Sochan starting is this team is going to struggle to put up points. The hypothetical ST favourited line up of: Primo, Vassell, Keldon, Sochan, Jak will be an absolute disaster on the offensive end.

And that’s a problem why? Serves two purposes ( gets the players real minutes / experience and we’ll probably lose games ) looking towards the future.

[BackHome]

The other thing is that certain players might be getting shopped so they might get starting/more minutes until trade season is over in order to net us some more picks

[KingKev]

And that’s a problem why? Serves two purposes ( gets the players real minutes / experience and we’ll probably lose games ) looking towards the future.

Didn’t say it was a problem. That will be a clear indication we are tanking, tanking. I’m for it just don’t see it happening.

[Atl Spur]

Sochan may surprise some of you on the offensive end, his shot needs tweaking not a total reclamation project.

[The Truth #6]

Speaking of fixing Sochan’s jumper, anyone know when Chip’s contract ends?

[KingKev]

Speaking of fixing Sochan’s jumper, anyone know when Chip’s contract ends?

I’d imagine he’s already done.

[GAustex]

Lol Primo PG
Unless of course the goal is to lose games

[The Truth #6]

I’d imagine he’s already done.

Figured. Bummer. I hope Brett Brown can have some positive effect on the players, even if not with shooting per se. Blake’s shooting form could probably use some refinement, for example, but if Brown can play good cop and keep the kids engaged I’ll call that a success. Ok, end tangent.

[KingKev]

Figured. Bummer. I hope Brett Brown can have some positive effect on the players, even if not with shooting per se. Blake’s shooting form could probably use some refinement, for example, but if Brown can play good cop and keep the kids engaged I’ll call that a success. Ok, end tangent.

From what I can see nothing has been publicly released but I’m not sure theres much point in working with a trainer for 6 weeks or so if he’s on his way out. Doubt he would have a contract period that didn’t somewhat align with the NBA season and offseason.

If it was a longer term resignation I’d think that would have been announced. Does anyone have any footnotes on recent players attributing working with Chip to improve their shooting? Keldon would be the first to come to kind.

[MultiTroll]

Is he related to Rick Robey?
Member of one of the GOATs Championship teams, the 1981 Celtics.

Played a huge part in continued Celts GOATs after being traded to Phoenix for Dennis Johnson.

Then Stern and the Lakers planned Lenny Bias death and the NBA didn't recover until Timmy Duncan came along.

[BatManu20]

Speaking of fixing Sochan’s jumper, anyone know when Chip’s contract ends?

Think I read that it ends at the end of this month.

[rastaspur]

I'd expect sochan to get 22 to 26 minutes a game as a rook. My best guess.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/EddieMesselTV/status/1556020936142426114

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

And that’s a problem why? Serves two purposes ( gets the players real minutes / experience and we’ll probably lose games ) looking towards the future.

Starting McBuckets should guarantee losses as well.

[KingKev]

Starting McBuckets should guarantee losses as well.

Yeah unless he is included in a Russ deal McBuckets needs to be certified tank commander. He absolutely will not win you a single game.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Roby could end up being one of those under-the-radar acquisitions where he ends up with a larger role than people think.

[J_Paco]

Depends on if they think Sochan is ready to start or not. I'd hope either him or Roby start and they move McDermott ASAP.

[slick'81]

Depends on if they think Sochan is ready to start or not. I'd hope either him or Roby start and they move McDermott ASAP.

Except nobody wants mcdemoot

[exstatic]

Except nobody wants mcdemoot

Yeah, I can't see any interest until he's an ending contract next season.

[J_Paco]

Except nobody wants mcdemoot

Good point. I forgot that he still has another year left on his deal. :cry:cry:cry

[Atl Spur]

Doug’s contract is easy to move in a trade….

[exstatic]

Doug’s contract is easy to move in a trade….

Anyones contract can be moved with sufficient draft picks attached.

[Ice009]

I absolutely hated the Doug McDermott contract. I just hated the signing in general. I didn't want him at all. I am guessing the Spurs thought he'd provide spacing and open it up for others, but I always thought it was a massive reach. Turns out it was :(.

[KingKev]

I absolutely hated the Doug McDermott contract. I just hated the signing in general. I didn't want him at all. I am guessing the Spurs thought he'd provide spacing and open it up for others, but I always thought it was a massive reach. Turns out it was :(.

Everyone and their mother knew it was a reach but the sniffers.

[The Truth #6]

A win now team in desperate need of shooting in theory is where McB needs to be. Lakers would be a great destination, but the Westbrook Disaster is obviously precluding that. I don't know, maybe he can be an extremely over-priced veteran that imparts wisdom and shooting form suggestions, ideally from the bench.

Yeah, McB will help us lose games, but we have young players in need of minutes that can do that just fine all by themselves. It's a bad fit at this point. But the team salary is generally low so someone has to fill it up, I suppose.

Bottom line, the problem with McB is in how much he plays and whose minutes he takes. In the general scheme of this year he isn't going to disrupt "the Tank" and propel us to the 9th seed or anything like that. He was brought in to help Pop make a push for the record, and we got that, and now, well, he's just kind of here.

[Atl Spur]

Doug can definitely still hoop, are you guys crazy? His contract is not an albatross that we’ll have to use picks to move if we desire ( Duncan Robinson says hello ). Bitching to be bitching…….

[ismael-robert]

I like Doug many nights was our top scorer

[The Truth #6]

He’s one of the worst defenders in the league and that causes more problems then whatever benefit he brings on offense because he can’t score 1-1. Now. If playing him means they have to play Sochan to cover for him, then that would be interesting, I suppose, but I’d rather just play the young guys. I didn’t think minimizing McB would be a hot take.

[Atl Spur]

He’s one of the worst defenders in the league and that causes more problems then whatever benefit he brings on offense because he can’t score 1-1. Now. If playing him means they have to play Sochan to cover for him, then that would be interesting, I suppose, but I’d rather just play the young guys. I didn’t think minimizing McB would be a hot take.
So you saying Doug’s a role player? Bingo….. he has an elite skill. I agree he should be moved but not because he’s some type of horrible signing.

[slick'81]

So you saying Doug’s a role player? Bingo….. he has an elite skill. I agree he should be moved but not because he’s some type of horrible signing.


who said hes a horrible signing? Did the spurs overpay? Yes but thats what you do in fa. He is exactly what he is

[Atl Spur]

who said hes a horrible signing? Did the spurs overpay? Yes but thats what you do in fa. He is exactly what he is

Plenty on this board…… overpay compared to who with the same skill set? Don’t forget apples to apples

[slick'81]

Plenty on this board…… overpay compared to who with the same skill set? Don’t forget apples to apples

One-way players in their 30s are a bad way to spend money for a rebuilding team

[rankingtear]

One-way players in their 30s are a bad way to spend money for a rebuilding team

Not if you need spacing for ballhandlers that can't shoot.

[ismael-robert]

He hasn't shown decline...progress if anything

[Maddog]

One-way players in their 30s are a bad way to spend money for a rebuilding team


Not if you need spacing for ballhandlers that can't shoot.

You can easily make both arguments
Having shooters helps your young points develop

[RC_Drunkford]

Well after this season he might actually get you an asset back if you flip him when he‘s on a 1-year deal

[Chomag]

At this point I agree that they would get the best out of him for a flip next year off of his expiring.

[J_Paco]

So you saying Doug’s a role player? Bingo….. he has an elite skill. I agree he should be moved but not because he’s some type of horrible signing.

Given what the team lacked - and still lacks - the signing made sense, TBH. They might have overpaid him but that is the cost of being a small market on a downturn.

With Sochan, Roby and Johnson all capable of playing the four and the ability of 2/3 to make outside shots (Roby on lower attempts) that makes him expendable.

[heyheymymy]

For the Spurs who will never admit to tanking, grabbing McDermott was a way to ensure significant losses with some plausible deniability.

Plus you know you're gonna be bad. If you brought good guys in during a tank you'll piss them off.

McDermott was always the tank commander in a gorsh shucks we can't seem to win kinda way imho. The helps with spacing thing was a flimsy cover. Doug is down because he sucks and he needs a contract. Everyone wins. Except the season ticket holders that you do not want to piss off. It's gotta look like a genuine downturn to them.

Cmon, they did MCD but they also did Young and Forbes along with lol no way they actually thought of that roster in terms of potential wins/contending.

[Mr. Body]

I'm really liking what I'm seeing from Roby. He's a great backup for Sochan, has long-term professional written all over him who can make plus plays. A heady player who can defend, rebound, hit from deep. Not entirely sure why OKC cut him. Robinson-Earl, I guess, and they'd rather find time for goofball ostrich/terrible basketball player Pokusevski.

[GAustex]

Roby was a pain in the butt against the Spurs last year