Game Thread: Summer League Game 1 - Spurs at Cavs -July 8th, 2022 @ 4 PM CT

[heyheymymy]

I thought it looked like just cramps too but that replay shows wes landing weird and immediately reacting. Treatment on sidelines does look like a cramp though.

[BatManu20]

Wesley back on the court. Think it was a cramp.

[offset formation]

Primo is out of shape

:flypig:flypig:flypig:wow:wow:wow

[Mugen]

Primo getting blitzed/doubled a bunch, that won't happen much in the regular season. He's 19 but I don't see the fit at PG tbh.

[offset formation]

On a positive note, Primo definitely looks bigger/taller. Sure that won't sit well with his hater club.

Cool post. Wouldn't read again.

[spurraider21]

thought branham would go up with that one instead of passing it off to barlow

[BatManu20]

Couple nice possessions by Primo. That was a pretty lefty runner, followed by a pull-up 3 in transition.

[heyheymymy]

Yes Wes is back. He was getting the leg rolled out and was hitting the electrolyte gel pouch so it seems like just a cramp. Nice

[heyheymymy]

PR3MO

[spurraider21]

primo doesnt lack confidence in his shot, i'll give him that. stepback 3 then left handed floater.

but no matter how much i squint, i just dont see a point guard. thats my main issue... thats he's being miscast

wow another one

[AFBlue]

Primo smooth af

[Uriel]

Josh Primo shitting on his haters.

[heyheymymy]

PRIMO GOD TIER UNLOCKED

[Robz4000]

Primo isn't a PG tbh. Team needs to stop trying to make him one and just let him play.

[longhorn]

Not impressed with Barlow

[John B]

Wesley back in action. Nice 3pt shot by Brahnam

[Mugen]

Would have been nice to have Sochan tbh. The team is terrible outside of the Big 3.

[John B]

I think my NBATV is a bit delayed though :lol

[Atl Spur]

Lol………good ol’ spurs talk

[heyheymymy]

Agbaji with a decent showing but maybe just more men among boys

[John B]

Primo step back

[Uriel]

Spurs' frontcourt deficiencies was an obvious reason why they lost this game. Not saying the outcome would've been different if Sochan and Wisekamp had played, but it would've been closer.

[BatManu20]

Primo the past five minutes has been far better than Primo of the first 3 1/2 quarters.

[SAGirl]

I a, glad to see Primos shot is back. Hoping he maintains that going into the season… looks good

[John B]

Primo floater

[KingKev]

I’ll concede Primo is a solid 6’5+

[emanueldavidginobili]

This team wasn't ready for the Cavs trapping throughout the game.

[John B]

Primo heating up. 17 pts

[Atl Spur]

30 is a keeper for austin / 38 is lazy

[Uriel]

That was a nice pass by Primo. Maybe he's not a natural to bring the ball up the court, but he certainly has good passing and vision.

[offset formation]

He's a wing. And he could be a good one if played and developed properly.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Primo just needs to have a sense of energy the entirety of the game instead of spurts.

[Atl Spur]

Oh yeah Barlow will have a chance in a few years

[John B]

Nice bully ball Barlow

[heyheymymy]

Barlow at this point does not look like equal or better backfill from Lansdale departure.

[Mnky]

"He's...just not a pg is what I meant to say.."

Blake has been the 1 the whole game and the primo haters still moving goal posts. :lol

That 8 point barrage by Primo is the best any player has looked in this game.

[Mugen]

First game outta the way, super sloppy. Hopefully they tighten it up on Sunday.

[Dex]

Primo the past five minutes has been far better than Primo of the first 3 1/2 quarters.

Yeah, Primo turned it on there for the last stretch but it was too little too late.

Like to see that all game long

[jeebus]

Blow the team up.

[spurraider21]

Primo the past five minutes has been far better than Primo of the first 3 1/2 quarters.
thats because he was playing as a shot maker and not as a point guard

[Trill Clinton]

Going forward Mitch needs to give Primo the green light to score at will. He was trying to get his teammates involved for most of the game, which is fine, but thats not what SL is for.

[Seventyniner]

Not a sterling game from Josh Platos but I'll take it.

[Uriel]

Positives:
- Blake Wesley's speed and burst
- Primo's size and shooting
- Branham's natural scoring ability

Negatives:
- Everything else

[emanueldavidginobili]

I think Primo is a much better fit in the DeMar role when he was with the Spurs than a PG. Go get a basket and create. DeMar last season with the Spurs was a damn good creator.

[ace3g]

https://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/sa.png&h=100&w=100 Spurs




STARTERS
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


D. Barlow F
21
3-5
0-0
3-4
3
4
7
0
1
0
0
6
-3
9


R. Woodard II F
14
1-7
0-3
0-0
1
4
5
0
0
0
1
0
-10
2


J. Primo G
29
7-12
5-7
1-2
0
0
0
5
0
1
3
1
-7
20


B. Wesley G
30
7-16
3-4
3-4
0
2
2
6
1
0
3
2
-9
20


M. Branham G
28
6-15
2-6
1-1
1
2
3
0
0
0
0
2
-25
15


BENCH
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


J. Carlton C
8
1-3
0-0
0-0
1
0
1
0
0
1
0
1
-5
2


D. Days F
19
5-7
1-3
0-0
3
4
7
0
0
0
1
4
-8
11


J. Hall G
16
1-4
1-4
1-2
1
3
4
2
0
1
2
2
+2
4


D.J. Stewart Jr. F
22
3-4
1-1
0-0
0
4
4
5
0
0
1
2
+21
7


J. DeLaurier C
10
0-1
0-0
0-0
1
2
3
0
0
0
1
1
-1
0


J. Sochan F
Has not entered game


K. Edwards G
2
0-1
0-0
0-0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0


S. Stefanovic G
Has not entered game


A. Polite G
Has not entered game


D. Mahoney G
Has not entered game


K. Bowman G
Has not entered game


J. Wieskamp SF
Has not entered game


TEAM

34-75
13-28
9-13
11
25
36
18
2
3
12
21

90




44.6%
44.4%
69.2%

[Kurik]

Barlow at this point does not look like equal or better backfill from Lansdale departure.

I don’t think anyone expected him to be, he’s 19 on a 2 way contract.

[Mugen]

Tank SZN baby, good start! GSG

[spurraider21]

"He's...just not a pg is what I meant to say.."

Blake has been the 1 the whole game and the primo haters still moving goal posts. :lol

That 8 point barrage by Primo is the best any player has looked in this game.
im relying on timvp's reporting that the spurs already view Primo as the starting point guard of the future

[Degoat]

Overall pretty good game from the new guys! Primos needs to be more assertive, Loved Wesley’s game today, and Branham started slow but once he refine some things he’ll be a bucket machine

[KingKev]

Primo was insanely passive the first 3 quarters but looked very comfortable down 15…


He needs to come out next game and be more assertive. Sort of feel like he doesn’t know what they want from him but he did not look like a PG out there. He is firmly a 2.

[cd98]

Not having Sochan hurt a lot. There was no D inside and poor rebounding. A little bit of that would have changed the game a lot.

[Mr. Body]

Don't really care about the results, but hopefully more competetive next game.

1. Cleveland looked really well-drilled, pulling traps and using length and team shape very well on defense, like they've been playing for a while.

2. Really needed Sochan this game. He would have made an impact on boards and interior defense.

3. Primo as a point is troubling because of a lack of quickness and execution on his passes. He is a much better ball handler than he was a year ago. He does have good vision and processing, the results aren't always there yet.

4. Primo's natural position is a s a 2/3 and secondary ball-handler. When he feels settled his shot is great and he's crafty.

5. Wesley's horizontal speed is a problem for defenses and he was hitting from outside tonight. If he can fix his shot, that'd be great. One of the beefs on him was a real lack of finishing around the rim, where he's terrible. If there's more than one guy, he gets swatted. I'm not sure how to fix this.

6. Branham settled in as the game went on. He worked hard on defense and was unselfish. Later on we saw flashes of his buttery midrange. His range isn't the best and he'll need to learn how to get around against better defenses. This isn't really the setting for him.

7. Barlow I like. He worked hard and did some good things. I don't expect much from him, but deserves a chance to make the team.

Onto the next one.

[GAustex]

Lol………good ol’ spurs talk
Miss Cleo your boy will be third rounder in next years draft

[Rito3d30]

https://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/sa.png&h=100&w=100 Spurs




STARTERS
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


D. Barlow F
21
3-5
0-0
3-4
3
4
7
0
1
0
0
6
-3
9


R. Woodard II F
14
1-7
0-3
0-0
1
4
5
0
0
0
1
0
-10
2


J. Primo G
29
7-12
5-7
1-2
0
0
0
5
0
1
3
1
-7
20


B. Wesley G
30
7-16
3-4
3-4
0
2
2
6
1
0
3
2
-9
20


M. Branham G
28
6-15
2-6
1-1
1
2
3
0
0
0
0
2
-25
15


BENCH
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


J. Carlton C
8
1-3
0-0
0-0
1
0
1
0
0
1
0
1
-5
2


D. Days F
19
5-7
1-3
0-0
3
4
7
0
0
0
1
4
-8
11


J. Hall G
16
1-4
1-4
1-2
1
3
4
2
0
1
2
2
+2
4


D.J. Stewart Jr. F
22
3-4
1-1
0-0
0
4
4
5
0
0
1
2
+21
7


J. DeLaurier C
10
0-1
0-0
0-0
1
2
3
0
0
0
1
1
-1
0


J. Sochan F
Has not entered game


K. Edwards G
2
0-1
0-0
0-0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0


S. Stefanovic G
Has not entered game


A. Polite G
Has not entered game


D. Mahoney G
Has not entered game


K. Bowman G
Has not entered game


J. Wieskamp SF
Has not entered game


TEAM

34-75
13-28
9-13
11
25
36
18
2
3
12
21

90




44.6%
44.4%
69.2%













+21 from Stewart.....That's some Bonner level +-King right there

[KingKev]

The end result is moot. Wesley, Branham and Primo looked promising. Primo is not a PG.

[exstatic]

Wes is win win because he either hacks away at it this season till he crystalizes into a budget Ivey Morant lol or you ride his tank to a #1 23 FRP if he busts and fails.

All at #25 which is very advantageous positioning to take a swing from a risk reward balance perspective.

His numbers were almost identical to freshman Ivey.

[Atl Spur]

Miss Cleo your boy will be third rounder in next years draft

You need some attention? I’m all ears :)

[GB20]

I loved the way Primo finished the fourth quarter.

[BatManu20]

Not Worried about Branham tbh. I actually think he’ll fare better in NBA games where there’s more structure and it’s not a wild pickup game. And he had 3 or 4 misses today that rimmed out. Overall I think he’ll be fine.

[GAustex]

14 and 22 lot promising
We really made Primo a lotto pick?

[BatManu20]

And to parrot what most people here are saying, Primo is not a PG. He needs to be a lead scoring guard in SL and secondary ball-handler. His last 5 minutes of the game looked so much better than the rest. Hopefully he comes out aggressive on Sunday.

[spurraider21]

Don't really care about the results, but hopefully more competetive next game.

1. Cleveland looked really well-drilled, pulling traps and using length and team shape very well on defense, like they've been playing for a while.

2. Really needed Sochan this game. He would have made an impact on boards and interior defense.

3. Primo as a point is troubling because of a lack of quickness and execution on his passes. He is a much better ball handler than he was a year ago. He does have good vision and processing, the results aren't always there yet.

4. Primo's natural position is a s a 2/3 and secondary ball-handler. When he feels settled his shot is great and he's crafty.

5. Wesley's horizontal speed is a problem for defenses and he was hitting from outside tonight. If he can fix his shot, that'd be great. One of the beefs on him was a real lack of finishing around the rim, where he's terrible. If there's more than one guy, he gets swatted. I'm not sure how to fix this.

6. Branham settled in as the game went on. He worked hard on defense and was unselfish. Later on we saw flashes of his buttery midrange. His range isn't the best and he'll need to learn how to get around against better defenses. This isn't really the setting for him.

7. Barlow I like. He worked hard and did some good things. I don't expect much from him, but deserves a chance to make the team.

Onto the next one.
agree with just about all of this. except i dont see primo as even a part time 3 given his weight/bulk. but he does look the part of a scorer and like you said, secondary playmaker. as long as he doesnt get shoe-horned into a point guard role, there's something there for sure. he also just didnt seem quick enough on defense to match up with 1's.

i think wesley would benefit a ton from the g-league mostly to work on his interior scoring. there were some drive-and-kick flashes as well, and that could become an exciting aspect to his game.

[Kurik]

I’m so used to Spurs players being scared to shoot in their first game so I’m happy with the results by the end of the game.

[Mnky]

im relying on timvp's reporting that the spurs already view Primo as the starting point guard of the future

Wasn't specific to you, there are plenty of posts about him not being a PG from people who love to criticize him without merit.

I'm not saying he will be or should be the PG, but making PG evaluations on a summer league game with people playing for their careers and running no sets is pretty ridiculous. Not to mention, he didn't play that role tonight. Which is kind of a big part of evaluating someone in a role.

People just love to hate on him.

[Atl Spur]

Primo game has grown…..some advanced moves! In my just a thought post I clearly stated have BEN as your primary ball handler. Primo is nice, haters your chance/time to load the bus is dwindling down. That’s all

[offset formation]

"He's...just not a pg is what I meant to say.."

Blake has been the 1 the whole game and the primo haters still moving goal posts. :lol

That 8 point barrage by Primo is the best any player has looked in this game.

BS. Pay closer attention. Wesley played off ball just as Primo did. They also both played as PG and SG too.

And what precisely did you see that showed Primo to be a competent PG? He still cannot consistently break down a defense. His points came almost entirely from distance either on step backs or passes to the wings.

He's a fucking wing (2 or 3).

That said, Wesley is a better PG and played more there than off ball.

[John B]

Don't really care about the results, but hopefully more competetive next game.

1. Cleveland looked really well-drilled, pulling traps and using length and team shape very well on defense, like they've been playing for a while.

2. Really needed Sochan this game. He would have made an impact on boards and interior defense.

3. Primo as a point is troubling because of a lack of quickness and execution on his passes. He is a much better ball handler than he was a year ago. He does have good vision and processing, the results aren't always there yet.

4. Primo's natural position is a s a 2/3 and secondary ball-handler. When he feels settled his shot is great and he's crafty.

5. Wesley's horizontal speed is a problem for defenses and he was hitting from outside tonight. If he can fix his shot, that'd be great. One of the beefs on him was a real lack of finishing around the rim, where he's terrible. If there's more than one guy, he gets swatted. I'm not sure how to fix this.

6. Branham settled in as the game went on. He worked hard on defense and was unselfish. Later on we saw flashes of his buttery midrange. His range isn't the best and he'll need to learn how to get around against better defenses. This isn't really the setting for him.

7. Barlow I like. He worked hard and did some good things. I don't expect much from him, but deserves a chance to make the team.

Onto the next one.

Nice assessment :bobo

Blake is still very raw out there. He needs refining at Austin. But very quick and gets to the basket at will, and tremendous motor. Once he gets it together, watch out.

Malaki, yes he started heating up as the game progresses. Once the games are set for him, he'll start shooting those c&s money.

Primo, he lets the game get to him, no rushes. Comes 4th quarter, 11 pts. I'm not worried.

Barlow, I like his big body working hard in the post, hustle guy.

It's just 1st game. I expect to get better as they start knowing each other's game.

[heyheymymy]

That 15 - 1 run in the 2nd q was good tape to study in the filmroom. Not as flukey, felt like things were clicking and moving around pretty well.

This game also cements the vision of the draft for the latter 2 picks, they seem to come as advertised.

The flashes from key projects was promising and will be fun to watch develop even over a tank.

Wes is like unbridled lightning, and I hope pop has the jar. That supernova flourish at the end of the 4th from primo demonstrates the delayed reward for our patience that lies in wait. Bran has some potential. Want to see more from Barlow.

Would be awesome to turn Wes/Primo/Bran into a 3 headed terror off the bench.

[spurraider21]

Not Worried about Branham tbh. I actually think he’ll fare better in NBA games where there’s more structure and it’s not a wild pickup game. And he had 3 or 4 misses today that rimmed out. Overall I think he’ll be fine.
he looked really uncomfortable/unsure of himself in the first half. once he settled down he just looked like a natural bucket-better if nothing else. looked ok on defense but wasnt necessarily tested much on that end

[tim_duncan_fan]

Blake WesGod


Not Worried about Branham tbh. I actually think he’ll fare better in NBA games where there’s more structure and it’s not a wild pickup game. And he had 3 or 4 misses today that rimmed out. Overall I think he’ll be fine.

Me either. There were a couple of difficult shots he made and it didn't look flukey. Like someone said already, with some structure, he'll pop.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1545542463858675712

[Atl Spur]

BS. Pay closer attention. Wesley played off ball just as Primo did. They also both played as PG and SG too.

And what precisely did you see that showed Primo to be a competent PG? He still cannot consistently break down a defense. His points came almost entirely from distance either on step backs or passes to the wings.

He's a fucking wing (2 or 3).

That said, Wesley is a better PG and played more there than off ball.

So you think Wesley is better than primo? Bro put down the pipe or have someone teach you basketball:(

[Ditty]

At least it looks like Primo can shoot again. He will be fine. You are crazy if you can’t see the talent.

[Dejounte]

So everything I said about Wes, Primo, and Branham before the game looks accurate

[rascal]

he looked really uncomfortable/unsure of himself in the first half. once he settled down he just looked like a natural bucket-better if nothing else. looked ok on defense but wasnt necessarily tested much on that end

Probably was nervous in the first half being his first game. Settled down in the second half.

Nerves will effect some guys more than others, Branham seems more the type to be effected by nerves moreso than Wesley.

[GAustex]

Need a leader to step up
Prolly Keldon

[Atl Spur]

Blake can’t dribble but he is a competitor. A good foundation to work with his bbIq needs some work. Being fast won’t be enough…

[Mnky]

Barlow looks like a good project. He's very inexperienced and it shows but he has the right mindset and works hard. Isn't afraid to take a good shot, which is great for a system role player. Game will slow down for him.

Branham calmed down and played more of his game. Like others mentioned, the type of player who will benefit from a true system and real games.

Blake looks great. Loved the little things he did off ball and on defense. He really seems like a complete player as far as mindset goes. For his first game, showed a lot of promise and excitement. I believe his first step hurts him when attacking some bugs as he's top fast for them to move. Most bigs will move to contest but hes so fast they dont have time to move and he runs right into them. A pull up jumper or floater will do wonders for him. He gets past the first guy and bigs won't be able to make it to his release in time.

Primos handles looked great for his development stage. His problem is not knowing what to do after he beats his guy, which he does regularly. This could be with the system not being there and people being in random places but his decision making wasn't great. His shot looks good, good touch on the ball. He showed complacency, the same type I saw in g league games where he just stands around when he's not touching the ball. I hate that trait. When locked in, the kid has legit defensive potential. His iq on that side is great and responsive, he just doesn't seem locked in much on that side. He's bigger. Seems like a demar/kawhi role benefits him the most so far. Needs his touches to be engaged though. He's gotten better at it and he is young, but I really hate that trait.

Stewart lookd very immature. His reactions to bad plays were pointing the finger every time and he does silly fouls when he gets beat kind of like he's throwing a fit. He has talent, but definitely immature.

Hall looks interesting. A faster physically, but slower mentally, Kyle Anderson.

The other bigs for the spurs played really bad. Doesn't seem like the smartest bunch. Maybe it has to do with lack of coaching and practice time though.

Fun group to watch.

[spurraider21]

Blake can’t dribble but he is a competitor. A good foundation to work with his bbIq needs some work. Being fast won’t be enough…
a lot to love though. the explosiveness from college definitely translated in his debut. to me he's a clear g-league candidate just so he can work to clean up a lot of his game while getting a ton of touches

[Uriel]

Crazy how we're making sweeping proclamations about the career trajectories of 19-year olds based off one exhibition game :lol

[heyheymymy]

His numbers were almost identical to freshman Ivey.

My point exactly. For potentially similar stellar performance from noticeably similar player type, but picked 20 spots later, bargain/budget because top 5 is premium. Like buying Great Value and barely noticing it compared to paying a premium for name brand. Spurs can potentially develop a steal here imo but the work is cut out for them.

We know the ask for trades into the top 5 because of talks with SAC for #4. It was a premium SA ultimately didn't part with. If 25 reminds you remotely of 5 youve got value on a budget. Not predicting anything crazy and Wes realistically has a lot of work to do. Time will tell obvs there's a reason the draft went in that order but Spurs may work that magic. Got tons of mins to do it with lol. And i liked what i saw from 14 today in a general sense.

[Mnky]

My point exactly. For potentially similar stellar performance from noticeably similar player type, but picked 20 spots later, bargain/budget because top 5 is premium. Like buying Great Value and barely noticing it compared to paying a premium for name brand. Spurs can potentially develop a steal here imo but the work is cut out for them.

We know the ask for trades into the top 5 because of talks with SAC for #4. It was a premium SA ultimately didn't part with. If 25 reminds you remotely of 5 youve got value on a budget. Not predicting anything crazy and Wes realistically has a lot of work to do. Time will tell obvs there's a reason the draft went in that order but Spurs may work that magic. Got tons of mins to do it with lol. And i liked what i saw from 14 today in a general sense.

Kid definitely has an Ivey projection, but with more of a defender mindset. It's cool they grew up together. You can see the similar offensive styles in them.

[Uriel]

Since we're making sweeping proclamations based off one exhibition game: Blake Wesley was literally the best player on the court for the Spurs before he got injured (and then it became Primo). I don't see why he couldn't be the starting PG for the big club.

[Mr. Body]

Barlow looks like a good project. He's very inexperienced and it shows but he has the right mindset and works hard. Isn't afraid to take a good shot, which is great for a system role player. Game will slow down for him.

Branham calmed down and played more of his game. Like others mentioned, the type of player who will benefit from a true system and real games.

Blake looks great. Loved the little things he did off ball and on defense. He really seems like a complete player as far as mindset goes. For his first game, showed a lot of promise and excitement. I believe his first step hurts him when attacking some bugs as he's top fast for them to move. Most bigs will move to contest but hes so fast they dont have time to move and he runs right into them. A pull up jumper or floater will do wonders for him. He gets past the first guy and bigs won't be able to make it to his release in time.

Primos handles looked great for his development stage. His problem is not knowing what to do after he beats his guy, which he does regularly. This could be with the system not being there and people being in random places but his decision making wasn't great. His shot looks good, good touch on the ball. He showed complacency, the same type I saw in g league games where he just stands around when he's not touching the ball. I hate that trait. When locked in, the kid has legit defensive potential. His iq on that side is great and responsive, he just doesn't seem locked in much on that side. He's bigger. Seems like a demar/kawhi role benefits him the most so far. Needs his touches to be engaged though. He's gotten better at it and he is young, but I really hate that trait.

Stewart lookd very immature. His reactions to bad plays were pointing the finger every time and he does silly fouls when he gets beat kind of like he's throwing a fit. He has talent, but definitely immature.

Hall looks interesting. A faster physically, but slower mentally, Kyle Anderson.

The other bigs for the spurs played really bad. Doesn't seem like the smartest bunch. Maybe it has to do with lack of coaching and practice time though.

Fun group to watch.

One of the better scouting analyses on YT pointed out that Wesley leaves his feet a long way off from the rim when driving into contests. He doesn't have lot of vertical explosion, so he can't go over the outstretched arms and he's still below the basket. Against single coverage, he can glide past the defender, but leaving his feet early leads him into swat city against help bigs.

So I imagine a combination of recognizing what coverage he's coming against and making better choices. Floaters, change of pace, pull-ups, not leaving his feet to give maybe a better chance of going vertical...

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywa2AvmcJGc

[spurraider21]

One of the better scouting analyses on YT pointed out that Wesley leaves his feet a long way off from the rim when driving into contests. He doesn't have lot of vertical explosion, so he can't go over the outstretched arms and he's still below the basket. Against single coverage, he can glide past the defender, but leaving his feet early leads him into swat city against help bigs.

So I imagine a combination of recognizing what coverage he's coming against and making better choices. Floaters, change of pace, pull-ups, not leaving his feet to give maybe a better chance of going vertical...
yeah the change of pace is more important, allows you to get into the body of a potential shotblocker. that also requires the will and ability to score through contact, something Lonnie always struggled with

[tonight...you]

Primo was insanely passive the first 3 quarters but looked very comfortable down 15…


He needs to come out next game and be more assertive. Sort of feel like he doesn’t know what they want from him but he did not look like a PG out there. He is firmly a 2.
We have zero idea what the coaching staff is directing him to do.
Summer League is all about experimenting and testing limits.
Not organized, winning basketball.

[rascal]

Need a leader to step up
Prolly Keldon

There are no leaders on the Spurs.

It's going to be a long season of losing to try to land a future leader in the draft.

[Mnky]

One of the better scouting analyses on YT pointed out that Wesley leaves his feet a long way off from the rim when driving into contests. He doesn't have lot of vertical explosion, so he can't go over the outstretched arms and he's still below the basket. Against single coverage, he can glide past the defender, but leaving his feet early leads him into swat city against help bigs.

So I imagine a combination of recognizing what coverage he's coming against and making better choices. Floaters, change of pace, pull-ups, not leaving his feet to give maybe a better chance of going vertical...

Definitely a good analysis. Summer league and g league will give him plenty of opportunities to work on that attack.

[Mnky]

We have zero idea what the coaching staff is directing him to do.
Summer League is all about experimenting and testing limits.
Not organized, winning basketball.

Not sure why more adults don't understand this concept.

[siraulo23]

all the young guys showed something but had rough stretches

rough game from Primo but strong finish at the end

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So you think Wesley is better than primo? Bro put down the pipe or have someone teach you basketball:(

Read better and get your Primo panties out of a wad. I said Wesley is a better PG, not overall player....yet I'm not ready to make that statement. But I'll remind you Blake scored from multiple positions whereas Primo largely was from 3. So while you think you're shading me, I'm not so sure it's a wild statement. I bet you this, by Wesley's second year in the league like Primo is currently entering, you can take it to the bank he'll be a more advanced player.

And you know shit about basketball Atl. Your blind allegiance to Primo is a running joke on this board.

[GAustex]

There are no leaders on the Spurs.

It's going to be a long season of losing to try to land a future leader in the draft.
I was trying to see if Primo or 14 or 22 would be a leader
I ain’t seeing any of them yet
But they are young so

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Barlow looks like a good project. He's very inexperienced and it shows but he has the right mindset and works hard. Isn't afraid to take a good shot, which is great for a system role player. Game will slow down for him.

Branham calmed down and played more of his game. Like others mentioned, the type of player who will benefit from a true system and real games.

Blake looks great. Loved the little things he did off ball and on defense. He really seems like a complete player as far as mindset goes. For his first game, showed a lot of promise and excitement. I believe his first step hurts him when attacking some bugs as he's top fast for them to move. Most bigs will move to contest but hes so fast they dont have time to move and he runs right into them. A pull up jumper or floater will do wonders for him. He gets past the first guy and bigs won't be able to make it to his release in time.

Primos handles looked great for his development stage. His problem is not knowing what to do after he beats his guy, which he does regularly. This could be with the system not being there and people being in random places but his decision making wasn't great. His shot looks good, good touch on the ball. He showed complacency, the same type I saw in g league games where he just stands around when he's not touching the ball. I hate that trait. When locked in, the kid has legit defensive potential. His iq on that side is great and responsive, he just doesn't seem locked in much on that side. He's bigger. Seems like a demar/kawhi role benefits him the most so far. Needs his touches to be engaged though. He's gotten better at it and he is young, but I really hate that trait.

Stewart lookd very immature. His reactions to bad plays were pointing the finger every time and he does silly fouls when he gets beat kind of like he's throwing a fit. He has talent, but definitely immature.

Hall looks interesting. A faster physically, but slower mentally, Kyle Anderson.

The other bigs for the spurs played really bad. Doesn't seem like the smartest bunch. Maybe it has to do with lack of coaching and practice time though.

Fun group to watch.

lol. Primo regularly beats his man and just doesn't know what to do afterwards? WTF are you watching?

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Blake can’t dribble but he is a competitor. A good foundation to work with his bbIq needs some work. Being fast won’t be enough…

jesus. you're definitely related to primo aren't you?

[AFBlue]

The best news (for our tanking) is that the only lead guard prospect looks a year away from being a year away. But he still looks like he could be a dude

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The best news (for our tanking) is that the only lead guard prospect looks a year away from being a year away. But he still looks like he could be a dude

He'll get even quicker once he figures out what they want him to do. He impressed me.

[tonight...you]

lol. Primo regularly beats his man and just doesn't know what to do afterwards? WTF are you watching?
Yeah, he has the ability to skip his man, but this is Summer League so nobody is where they are supposed to be when he does and I'm betting the coaching staff told him to be more of a facilitator for this game so...
Sucks.

[heyheymymy]

Duarte with a nice dish for IND

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Yeah, he has the ability to skip his man, but this is Summer League so nobody is where they are supposed to be when he does and I'm betting the coaching staff told him to be more of a facilitator for this game so...
Sucks.

He'd be the only PG in history that knows how to beat his initial defender without hardly ever making it to the rim for a layup then. This board thirsts for Primo's potential as a PG and I'm dumbstruck at what they are seeing. I keep reading about his above average court vision and handles and I'm wondering WTF glasses you guys are watching the gane through. He forces passes. Often into double coverage. He routinely throws at least 1 or 2 away practically right to a defender. He often throws his man into coverage instead of away from it or throws a pass down into the post where his guy has nothing to do with it then force up a bad shot.

He is NOT a PG. He is a wing, that might occasionally be playable as a SG. His 3 pt shot returned for this game and with his height, he is a prototypical 3.

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How many TOs did he have? 3. With 5 assists. in 30 Min. Very similar line as last year despite a whole off-season to work as a PG with the team's blessings.

And he went 5 of 7 from 3. Which he didn't do well last year after the fist 1/3 of the year.

Dude has wing written all over him.

[NASpurs]

This summer league game thread probably has more pages than any regular season game last season.

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This summer league thread probably has more pages than any regular season game last season.

Yeah most of them didn't make it beyond 5 or 6 pages.

[tonight...you]

He'd be the only PG in history that knows how to beat his initial defender without hardly ever making it to the rim for a layup then. This board thirsts for Primo's potential as a PG and I'm dumbstruck at what they are seeing. I keep reading about his above average court vision and handles and I'm wondering WTF glasses you guys are watching the gane through. He forces passes. Often into double coverage. He routinely throws at least 1 or 2 away practically right to a defender. He often throws his man into coverage instead of away from it or throws a pass down into the post where his guy has nothing to do with it then force up a bad shot.

He is NOT a PG. He is a wing, that might occasionally be playable as a SG. His 3 pt shot returned for this game and with his height, he is a prototypical 3.
You may be right.
You're probably right.
But to not look into his potential into the position is folly.
And he's still a child!
Think of the player he will be with 3 years of experience and he's been put to the fire since he was a kid.

He already shows a ton.
And Summer League is not a proper evaluation for a PG with a team of strangers thrown together and each have their own assignments that Pop wants to see.


I just think a wiser eye needs to be used here.
Not the reactionary shit of a Tik Tok Teen.

[Chinook]

I'm not actually sure Primo looks taller. I did just get off work and only saw the highlights, but I just think SL players are smaller than NBA rotation players. Also, Primo's always looked big. Even when he was fresh off measuring 6-4, he looked big. The difference is folks are watching 6-4 Branham and 6-5 Wesley rather than 6-6 Vassell and 6-6 Wieskamp. Obviously getting a bit taller would only be a boost, but I don't think he's had a position-changing spurt.

Primo hasn't played a PG, so he's going to look awkward at it. That's how development works. That's why it's always a good idea to have a vet PG for the summer league and good coaches. I don't know if Johnson is up to snuff. I'm not against the team having a ball-handling guard next to him, which is why it made sense to draft both Branham and Wesley. But I think Pop has made his preference for playing multiple ball-handlers in the starting unit apparent for at least a decade now. It's one of the reasons he always hated LDN despite Green being a literally perfect fit with Prime Tony. Pop even wanted to get a PG to play next to Parker back in the day. Primo isn't expected to be the sole facilitator of the starting lineup. That doesn't mean that the Spurs would be wrong not putting a floor-general PG next to him.

People seem to forget that the SL is just like this. Most of the guys on the team aren't NBA players. It's usually discombobulated. Even in their title summer, they didn't look good in the SLC league. I'm really annoyed how few games the team gets to play now. Part of that is ESPN commercializing the hell out of the Vegas League. But I'm cool with that if there are a couple more tune-up leagues that form. I'm surprised Austin doesn't have one. Or hell, how interesting would a Seattle league be? Hopefully if those do happen the Spurs don't miss out. It's really worrying to me that they didn't do one this year. It could be COVID concerns, but a team in their position should be giving prospects as many chances as possible show out. Sure, nowadays the first-rounders will be in SA much sooner than back in the day, but they also need to turn over stones looking for elite role-players, and it's a relatively cheap thing to do to get some scrimmage games in.

Hopefully we see more of the main guys going forward and some of the also-rans show something to get X-9 deals. Days showed a little something, and Wieskamp not diving on his tender is surprising. Unlike a second-round tender, a QO is guaranteed money, and I can't see him doing better than that.

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You may be right.
You're probably right.
But to not look into his potential into the position is folly.
And he's still a child!
Think of the player he will be with 3 years of experience and he's been put to the fire since he was a kid.

He already shows a ton.
And Summer League is not a proper evaluation for a PG with a team of strangers thrown together and each have their own assignments that Pop wants to see.


I just think a wiser eye needs to be used here.
Not the reactionary shit of a Tik Tok Teen.

His Assist to Turnover ratio is like never even in the 2s. Last year, the top 100 all had a 2.1 ratio or higher. Primo consistently had 4 or 5 TO games last year.

The Spurs drafted him and played him as a starter last year before we decided to tank.

And btw, he's not a child. He's a grown ass adult that's making millions of dollars. His game is worthy of criticism.

And I'm not really even criticizing him for certain stuff.

1. I've said repeatedly he'll be a good to great wing in a couple years. But you cannot suspend judgement on a player because he's not yet 20. There are drafts every year and you can't try to pick a guy for a position that *might* be good in 5 or 6 years at a position when he already shows out better in another position.
2. Pop deserves blame for Primo being misused. Primo absolutely deserves criticism for his repeated TOs and lackluster defense at times. He forces the ball and loses his handle in traffic which is worthy of criticism. I will not however criticize him for not beating his man as he shouldn't be the primary ball handler. That's on Pop.

[tonight...you]

His Assist to Turnover ratio is like never even in the 2s. Last year, the top 100 all had a 2.1 ratio or higher. Primo consistently had 4 or 5 TO games last year.

The Spurs drafted him and played him as a starter last year before we decided to tank.

And btw, he's not a child. He's a grown ass adult that's making millions of dollars. His game is worthy of criticism.

And I'm not really even criticizing him for certain stuff.

1. I've said repeatedly he'll be a good to great wing in a couple years. But you cannot suspend judgement on a player because he's not yet 20. There are drafts every year and you can't try to pick a guy for a position that *might* be good in 5 or 6 years at a position when he already shows out better in another position.
2. Pop deserves blame for Primo being misused. Primo absolutely deserves criticism for his repeated TOs and lackluster defense at times. He forces the ball and loses his handle in traffic which is worthy of criticism. I will not however criticize him for not beating his man as he shouldn't be the primary ball handler. That's on Pop.
I'm sorry, he's a 19 year old grown ass adult, lol.
They started him at the end of the year playin a wing position.
His handles have absolutely improved and you not recognizing it means you aren't watching.
His TO's are trying to needle passes to guys who don't know where they are supposed to be because, you know, Summer League.

Calm your tits baby.

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I'm sorry, he's a 19 year old grown ass adult, lol.
They started him at the end of the year playin a wing position.
His handles have absolutely improved and you not recognizing it means you aren't watching.
His TO's are trying to needle passes to guys who don't know where they are supposed to be because, you know, Summer League.

Calm your tits baby.

Ok, I'm in, you sonofbitch. But just because you told me to calm my tits, baby. Primo for All-Star PG.

[Atl Spur]

Ok, I'm in, you sonofbitch. But just because you told me to calm my tits, baby. Primo for All-Star PG.

He has warts for sure but no one on that summer team has the advance skill he posses…….they’re all 19 btw

[Atl Spur]

Step back three? That was filthy!

[cutewizard]

Guys, would you know any free website where we can watch the replay free?

[Russ]

Guys, would you know any free website where we can watch the replay free?

I was at the game so I can say this:

They should pay you.

[tonight...you]

Ok, I'm in, you sonofbitch. But just because you told me to calm my tits, baby. Primo for All-Star PG.
Primo for forwarding his potential, wherever that may be.

[Mnky]

I'm sorry, he's a 19 year old grown ass adult, lol.
They started him at the end of the year playin a wing position.
His handles have absolutely improved and you not recognizing it means you aren't watching.
His TO's are trying to needle passes to guys who don't know where they are supposed to be because, you know, Summer League.

Calm your tits baby.

Literally noone has argued for Primo to be the PG, but people keep going back to it because Primo is trending up and their takes are looking worse and worse on a kid whose prime is a decade away. Wouldn't waste too much time on the goal post shifters. They just don't know how to admit they were wrong. Grasping at straws.

Primo looks like a good prospect. Kid shot 70 percent from 3, creating on his own half the time and people are desperate to say he can't pass or lead after a night of doubles on him.
Kawhi couldn't beat a double team 5 years into his career with legit NBA options. Primo surrounded by maybe 2 NBA players.

Primo will be alright.

[Uriel]

Becky was a far superior summer league coach to Mitch.

[tonight...you]

Literally noone has argued for Primo to be the PG, but people keep going back to it because Primo is trending up and their takes are looking worse and worse on a kid whose prime is a decade away. Wouldn't waste too much time on the goal post shifters. They just don't know how to admit they were wrong. Grasping at straws.

Primo looks like a good prospect. Kid shot 70 percent from 3, creating on his own half the time and people are desperate to say he can't pass or lead after a night of doubles on him.
Kawhi couldn't beat a double team 5 years into his career with legit NBA options. Primo surrounded by maybe 2 NBA players.

Primo will be alright.
I have zero problem with the child's progression thus far.
He's looking more legit and I'm glad for it.

[poopbox]

The end result is moot. Wesley, Branham and Primo looked promising. Primo is not a PG.

Don't tell the spurs front office that :meeting:

[Russ]

This summer league game thread probably has more pages than any regular season game last season.

More fans at the game also.

I've been coming to this event for well over ten years and I've never seen it this packed.

Wall-to-wall people (even at the Spurs game). Super-spreader I fear (and I wasn't even that close to Socham!).

[Dex]

I am convinced after this game that the Spurs are a soccer team, based on my Googling....

[Atl Spur]

More fans at the game also.

I've been coming to this event for well over ten years and I've never seen it this packed.

Wall-to-wall people (even at the Spurs game). Super-spreader I fear (and I wasn't even that close to Socham!).

Yikes! Be careful in them streets :)

[Atl Spur]

I am convinced after this game that the Spurs are a soccer team, based on my Googling....

Hell naw!!! Lol

[lefty20]

I am convinced after this game that the Spurs are a soccer team, based on my Googling....

Be honest, this is a safe space, you used Bing didn't you?

[John B]

I am convinced after this game that the Spurs are a soccer team, based on my Googling....

Maybe based on the area you live :lol

[Dex]

Be honest, this is a safe space, you used Bing didn't you?

It was Ask Jeeves :dramaquee

[Ariel]

I am convinced after this game that the Spurs are a soccer team, based on my Googling....
Tottenham Hotspur AKA "Spurs"

[SAGirl]

I'm not actually sure Primo looks taller. I did just get off work and only saw the highlights, but I just think SL players are smaller than NBA rotation players. Also, Primo's always looked big. Even when he was fresh off measuring 6-4, he looked big. The difference is folks are watching 6-4 Branham and 6-5 Wesley rather than 6-6 Vassell and 6-6 Wieskamp. Obviously getting a bit taller would only be a boost, but I don't think he's had a position-changing spurt.

Primo hasn't played a PG, so he's going to look awkward at it. That's how development works. That's why it's always a good idea to have a vet PG for the summer league and good coaches. I don't know if Johnson is up to snuff. I'm not against the team having a ball-handling guard next to him, which is why it made sense to draft both Branham and Wesley. But I think Pop has made his preference for playing multiple ball-handlers in the starting unit apparent for at least a decade now. It's one of the reasons he always hated LDN despite Green being a literally perfect fit with Prime Tony. Pop even wanted to get a PG to play next to Parker back in the day. Primo isn't expected to be the sole facilitator of the starting lineup. That doesn't mean that the Spurs would be wrong not putting a floor-general PG next to him.

People seem to forget that the SL is just like this. Most of the guys on the team aren't NBA players. It's usually discombobulated. Even in their title summer, they didn't look good in the SLC league. I'm really annoyed how few games the team gets to play now. Part of that is ESPN commercializing the hell out of the Vegas League. But I'm cool with that if there are a couple more tune-up leagues that form. I'm surprised Austin doesn't have one. Or hell, how interesting would a Seattle league be? Hopefully if those do happen the Spurs don't miss out. It's really worrying to me that they didn't do one this year. It could be COVID concerns, but a team in their position should be giving prospects as many chances as possible show out. Sure, nowadays the first-rounders will be in SA much sooner than back in the day, but they also need to turn over stones looking for elite role-players, and it's a relatively cheap thing to do to get some scrimmage games in.

Hopefully we see more of the main guys going forward and some of the also-rans show something to get X-9 deals. Days showed a little something, and Wieskamp not diving on his tender is surprising. Unlike a second-round tender, a QO is guaranteed money, and I can't see him doing better than that.
Just joining in hee to agree with you that it’s disappointing to only have 5 games of summer league and I expect they will rest guys for one of those like they did last year, to see the prospects they are scouting for Austin and the more margin guys. Those guys usually got good run in the other smaller leagues. An interesting development is them passing up on those, and I do wonder if it’s a cost cutting move or what….

[Mr. Body]

Did anyone notice in that stepback-three, floater, three sequence for Primo near the end, that the floater was left handed? That was pretty sweet.

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I am convinced after this game that the Spurs are a soccer team, based on my Googling....

it's funny because in the era of the big three, if you googled Spurs, all that came up was the basketball version. Now that has increasingly flipped the other way as we started sucking and they've had some success.

[XDT76]

it's funny because in the era of the big three, if you googled Spurs, all that came up was the basketball version. Now that has increasingly flipped the other way as we started sucking and they've had some success.

Not sure what success you are talking about regarding the Tottenham Hotspur. They have won nothing for the longest time.

[Dex]

Not sure what success you are talking about regarding the Tottenham Hotspur. They have won nothing for the longest time.

Yet still, if you look up "Spurs" on Twitter, it's like 80% Tottenham news.

USE YOUR FULL NAME, WANKERS!

[MannyIsGod]

Crazy how we're making sweeping proclamations about the career trajectories of 19-year olds based off one exhibition game :lol
Standard Spurs talk

[emanueldavidginobili]

Despite Primo not looking like a traditional PG out there he displayed some really good vision. He found an open man almost every time, the kid will be a really good passer with time. He’s by far the best passer on the SL roster. The double teams the Cavs threw at him threw him off at times though. I think he will be better off at the 2 or 3 and making plays from there. But you can tell PATFO are adamant on developing him as a playmaker.

Once Branham got his feet underneath him he looked good. His defense was also better than I expected.

Loved Blakes aggressiveness, he’s not shy at all and we need a player like that. His shot also looked much better than I expected. His shots already light years better and more fluid than Dejountes was when he was at summer league.

Barlow has potential. He didn’t get many opportunities but when he did he capitalized and his shot looks good.

Days looked decent out there.

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Not sure what success you are talking about regarding the Tottenham Hotspur. They have won nothing for the longest time.

I know but they were pretty good though for a couple years in a row and that's been enough to displace SA.

[offset formation]

Despite Primo not looking like a traditional PG out there he displayed some really good vision. He found an open man almost every time, the kid will be a really good passer with time. He’s by far the best passer on the SL roster. The double teams the Cavs threw at him threw him off at times though. I think he will be better off at the 2 or 3 and making plays from there. But you can tell PATFO are adamant on developing him as a playmaker.

Once Branham got his feet underneath him he looked good. His defense was also better than I expected.

Loved Blakes aggressiveness, he’s not shy at all and we need a player like that. His shot also looked much better than I expected. His shots already light years better and more fluid than Dejountes was when he was at summer league.

Barlow has potential. He didn’t get many opportunities but when he did he capitalized and his shot looks good.

Days looked decent out there.

He found a TO almost with the same frequency. Sheesh another one roped in by Pop's desire to force square peg into round hole. I'm in an episode of the twilight zone here.

[T Park]

How many TOs did he have? 3. With 5 assists. in 30 Min. Very similar line as last year despite a whole off-season to work as a PG with the team's blessings.

And he went 5 of 7 from 3. Which he didn't do well last year after the fist 1/3 of the year.

Dude has wing written all over him.

The offseason is over? Amazing

[John B]

He found a TO almost with the same frequency. Sheesh another one roped in by Pop's desire to force square peg into round hole. I'm in an episode of the twilight zone here.

Bruh Spurs win in motion offense, especially without a dominant player to score at will. To have as many facilitator is better for the Spurs. I have nothing against developing players with their passing games.

[rankingtear]

Stewart was good created needed rim pressure and moved the ball. Days can't stay in front of his man. Woodard still can't shoot. Hall can defend a little with his size but did not really standout. Stewart right now is the front runner for that two way.

[8FOR!3]

I might be the only one right now who's not overly impressed with Primo. He looks like a skilled guard with scoring ability but he still doesn't look like a lottery pick to me. I just don't see that high of upside with him. His playmaking/size/athleticism/shooting/scoring ability/defense are all solid but I don't see any of those skills ever transitioning to elite. Could be very wrong, just giving my eye test. If anything maybe he'll make a career of just being able to score the ball at a fairly high level. His shot does look really solid.

[RC_Drunkford]

I might be the only one right now who's not overly impressed with Primo. He looks like a skilled guard with scoring ability but he still doesn't look like a lottery pick to me. I just don't see that high of upside with him. His playmaking/size/athleticism/shooting/scoring ability/defense are all solid but I don't see any of those skills ever transitioning to elite. Could be very wrong, just giving my eye test. If anything maybe he'll make a career of just being able to score the ball at a fairly high level. His shot does look really solid.

right now he looks like a bench player on a tanking team tbh. He shouldn't start

[Atl Spur]

I might be the only one right now who's not overly impressed with Primo. He looks like a skilled guard with scoring ability but he still doesn't look like a lottery pick to me. I just don't see that high of upside with him. His playmaking/size/athleticism/shooting/scoring ability/defense are all solid but I don't see any of those skills ever transitioning to elite. Could be very wrong, just giving my eye test. If anything maybe he'll make a career of just being able to score the ball at a fairly high level. His shot does look really solid.

Please go look at the history of the #12 pick and tell me with a straight face this kid hasn’t displayed a skill set suggesting he’ll surpass most of them….he’s 19 ( our three rookies age ). Primo just needs time , he is using these games to work on weakness’s not shine like Wesley etc…. He’s been in the system for a year & understands what’s going to keep him on the court. When he wants to score he can in a multitude of ways ( all three levels ).

[Atl Spur]

We’re just going to gloss over 5-7 three point shooting and ball handling displayed? A bench player on a championship team? Yes but not on a tanking / growing one.

[Sugus]

Literally noone has argued for Primo to be the PG, but people keep going back to it because Primo is trending up and their takes are looking worse and worse on a kid whose prime is a decade away. Wouldn't waste too much time on the goal post shifters. They just don't know how to admit they were wrong. Grasping at straws.

Primo looks like a good prospect. Kid shot 70 percent from 3, creating on his own half the time and people are desperate to say he can't pass or lead after a night of doubles on him.
Kawhi couldn't beat a double team 5 years into his career with legit NBA options. Primo surrounded by maybe 2 NBA players.

Primo will be alright.

Agree wholeheartedly. It's funny to see the goal already being moved, his sophomore season not having officially started yet... And you forgot to mention: this SpursTalk hatewagon is the same people who spent YEARS on the "Dejounte isn't a PG!! He can't even dribble, nor shoot!!" train, whilst DJ developed all the way from a clunky, lanky and awkward kid, into a literal All-Star level player. Like, we've played out this EXACT movie the past 4-5 years... And people STILL haven't learned shit from it.

I'm not saying Primo is a surefire PG (I don't even know if I'd want him there; I haven't seen the apparently ground-breaking concept of "point-forward" mentioned once in this thread, and that's exactly where I'm seeing Primo shine in the future). But the discrediting arguments at this point in time are ridiculous, especially given the very visible improvements on his game & physique from last year. He popped out of the frame in the 4th, when he cared to do so (and his coach told him to "gimme more of that").

[KingKev]

I am convinced after this game that the Spurs are a soccer team, based on my Googling....

They actually have some nice Spurs Nike gear…

[Dejounte]

Agree wholeheartedly. It's funny to see the goal already being moved, his sophomore season not having officially started yet... And you forgot to mention: this SpursTalk hatewagon is the same people who spent YEARS on the "Dejounte isn't a PG!! He can't even dribble, nor shoot!!" train, whilst DJ developed all the way from a clunky, lanky and awkward kid, into a literal All-Star level player. Like, we've played out this EXACT movie the past 4-5 years... And people STILL haven't learned shit from it.

I'm not saying Primo is a surefire PG (I don't even know if I'd want him there; I haven't seen the apparently ground-breaking concept of "point-forward" mentioned once in this thread, and that's exactly where I'm seeing Primo shine in the future). But the discrediting arguments at this point in time are ridiculous, especially given the very visible improvements on his game & physique from last year. He popped out of the frame in the 4th, when he cared to do so (and his coach told him to "gimme more of that").

Exactly. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with Primo becoming the point forward. If he’s a starter and he gets his ball handling touches, what’s the problem? Why pidgeonhole him as a PG? Are people that desperate to compare him to DJ that the only way to do it is view him as a PG too? Are people so obsessed with height that because he’s listed as 6’4”, they don’t want him as anything but PG?

IMO, the reason he’s not a full time PG isn’t because of passing skills or anything like that. He is not quick enough to push the pace. The Spurs scheme is to always push the pace. You will notice that Wesley was fast as hell to bring the ball up full court. Primo suffers from the same thing White did in that he doesn’t run like hell with the ball like Murray did. I said it over and over when White took command as PG (and his role there dwindled over time because of this) that bringing the ball up slowly affects the entire team and it brings complacency.

btw i didnt get to respond to your previous post to me. Do you have a computer yet?

[eDizzle20]

Did anyone notice in that stepback-three, floater, three sequence for Primo near the end, that the floater was left handed? That was pretty sweet.
That step back was ridiculous. Plays like that show why PATFO is so high on the kid. He needs to be aggressive like that more consistently.

[ceperez]

Agree wholeheartedly. It's funny to see the goal already being moved, his sophomore season not having officially started yet... And you forgot to mention: this SpursTalk hatewagon is the same people who spent YEARS on the "Dejounte isn't a PG!! He can't even dribble, nor shoot!!" train, whilst DJ developed all the way from a clunky, lanky and awkward kid, into a literal All-Star level player. Like, we've played out this EXACT movie the past 4-5 years... And people STILL haven't learned shit from it.

I'm not saying Primo is a surefire PG (I don't even know if I'd want him there; I haven't seen the apparently ground-breaking concept of "point-forward" mentioned once in this thread, and that's exactly where I'm seeing Primo shine in the future). But the discrediting arguments at this point in time are ridiculous, especially given the very visible improvements on his game & physique from last year. He popped out of the frame in the 4th, when he cared to do so (and his coach told him to "gimme more of that").

Dejounte is the case study that we can't judge any young player. In fact, even DeRozan improved his game while being a Spur.

That said, it's always best to build skill on top of an good base of talent. Spurs drafting late meant they had a lot less to work with.

[jhfenton]

I know but they were pretty good though for a couple years in a row and that's been enough to displace SA.

They've also been very active in the current transfer window—5 first team signings so far—after a late season run got them into the final spot to qualify for the UEFA Champions League next season. They have a hot coach, a new stadium, and money to buy players. So there's a lot of buzz right now.

I've been cheering for them for 20 years, because having no reason to pick any other EPL team, I naturally picked the Spurs.

[John B]

That step back was ridiculous. Plays like that show why PATFO is so high on the kid. He needs to be aggressive like that more consistently.

I guess in the 4th that you see Primo took the game over with 11 points with his Coaching coaxing him, “give me some more of that.” His handles are getting tight when attacking, wayyy advanced than DJ did, and at 19! But I think with Wesley better at pushing the tempo, I can see Primo as a SF/Combo like Demar as mentioned in another post. And while I see Wesley staying at Austin, I see him playing with the big team every chance like Primo did last year. And while it was only the 1st SL game, I think the Spurs might have found their future PG in Wesley.

[MannyIsGod]

It was pretty obvious to me that the game plan was for Primo to go in and defer and get others involved. His court vision remains the best on the Spurs and its not even close. Against a lot of non NBA talent that's even more apparent. At the end when Primo wanted to score, he did. That's an excellent sign. But at no point in the early stages of this game was dude trying to go at defenses the way Wesley was. Its Summer league, if you try to watch these games like they are NBA games you're gonna have stupid fucking takes but then again more than half the people on this site just can't help themselves and will post shit that is wrong no matter how many times they've been wrong before.

The fact that Primo's handles have improved is great. The fact that Primo sees the court better than anyone else on the team is the most important facet to him being a point guard. Not ever PG needs to blow by people in 1v1 situations and I'm not sure why this the standard so many people in here have decided to use.

[Atl Spur]

Wesley is fast but he’s definitely gonna have to tighten up those handles. Like some have mentioned before, knowing when and how to use them jets will really take him to the next level. The kid shows promise proving once again the spurs are good at this drafting thing!

[MannyIsGod]

Agree wholeheartedly. It's funny to see the goal already being moved, his sophomore season not having officially started yet... And you forgot to mention: this SpursTalk hatewagon is the same people who spent YEARS on the "Dejounte isn't a PG!! He can't even dribble, nor shoot!!" train, whilst DJ developed all the way from a clunky, lanky and awkward kid, into a literal All-Star level player. Like, we've played out this EXACT movie the past 4-5 years... And people STILL haven't learned shit from it.

I'm not saying Primo is a surefire PG (I don't even know if I'd want him there; I haven't seen the apparently ground-breaking concept of "point-forward" mentioned once in this thread, and that's exactly where I'm seeing Primo shine in the future). But the discrediting arguments at this point in time are ridiculous, especially given the very visible improvements on his game & physique from last year. He popped out of the frame in the 4th, when he cared to do so (and his coach told him to "gimme more of that").

100% Its amazing how many people will just make mistake after mistake after mistake and never stop with their shit takes.

[Atl Spur]

It was pretty obvious to me that the game plan was for Primo to go in and defer and get others involved. His court vision remains the best on the Spurs and its not even close. Against a lot of non NBA talent that's even more apparent. At the end when Primo wanted to score, he did. That's an excellent sign. But at no point in the early stages of this game was dude trying to go at defenses the way Wesley was. Its Summer league, if you try to watch these games like they are NBA games you're gonna have stupid fucking takes but then again more than half the people on this site just can't help themselves and will post shit that is wrong no matter how many times they've been wrong before.

The fact that Primo's handles have improved is great. The fact that Primo sees the court better than anyone else on the team is the most important facet to him being a point guard. Not ever PG needs to blow by people in 1v1 situations and I'm not sure why this the standard so many people in here have decided to use.
^ don’t waste your time kind sir!

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5bTBzSYAik

[John B]

Wesley is fast but he’s definitely gonna have to tighten up those handles. Like some have mentioned before, knowing when and how to use them jets will really take him to the next level. The kid shows promise proving once again the spurs are good at this drafting thing!

Actually I didn’t see Wesley losing the ball with his handles, not that it doesn’t hurt to keep improving. I see he needs to improve in finishing at the rim. But adding weight on that 185 lb frame should help a lot. But he blows by his defender, great at pushing the tempo, and is not gun shy. I am quite impressed.

[KingKev]

It was pretty obvious to me that the game plan was for Primo to go in and defer and get others involved. His court vision remains the best on the Spurs and its not even close. Against a lot of non NBA talent that's even more apparent. At the end when Primo wanted to score, he did. That's an excellent sign. But at no point in the early stages of this game was dude trying to go at defenses the way Wesley was. Its Summer league, if you try to watch these games like they are NBA games you're gonna have stupid fucking takes but then again more than half the people on this site just can't help themselves and will post shit that is wrong no matter how many times they've been wrong before.

The fact that Primo's handles have improved is great. The fact that Primo sees the court better than anyone else on the team is the most important facet to him being a point guard. Not ever PG needs to blow by people in 1v1 situations and I'm not sure why this the standard so many people in here have decided to use.

He definitely deferred but I don’t think it’s because he is the young OG on the summer league getting others involved I actually think him deferring is a tad walker IV esque.

All good signs from him skill/talent wise yesterday but his biggest challenge this year might be the decision process of when to defer versus when to take over. That’s a tough mandate to navigate and something that DJ got pretty good at last year.

[John B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5bTBzSYAik

Not bad for the 12th pick, and again with so much composure at 19.

[John B]

That still shot at Primo smiling :lol. This kid never stop smiling and I don’t wish him to stop.

[John B]

Some stupid idiot put a virus on the Blake Wesley thread :lol:lol. You can’t even open that thread anymore

[Dejounte]

Some stupid idiot put a virus on the Blake Wesley thread :lol:lol. You can’t even open that thread anymore

hey you dumbass filipino putanginamo. It’s not my fault the forum cant handle a twitter link :lmao

[John B]

hey you dumbass filipino putanginamo. It’s not my fault the forum cant handle a twitter link :lmao

And Karen too :lmao:lmao

[Dejounte]

And Karen too :lmao:lmao

that doesnt even make sense. Put a lumpia up your pwet gago

[John B]

that doesnt even make sense. Put a lumpia up your pwet gago

It doesn’t make sense that you’re being a racist with your Filipino derogatory? Idiot :lmao:lmao

[Atl Spur]

hey you dumbass filipino putanginamo. It’s not my fault the forum cant handle a twitter link :lmao

Wow……that’s how we’re doing it now? Slow down.

[Dejounte]

It doesn’t make sense that you’re being a racist with your Filipino derogatory? Idiot :lmao:lmao

Karens arent Karens because theyre racist, you dumbass :lmao

[John B]

Karens arent Karens because theyre racist, you dumbass :lmao

Okay Ken :lmao:lmao

[KingKev]

^ Hahah these Magic City girls will give you the germ and still charge you gents. Stay strapped.

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Exactly. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with Primo becoming the point forward. If he’s a starter and he gets his ball handling touches, what’s the problem? Why pidgeonhole him as a PG? Are people that desperate to compare him to DJ that the only way to do it is view him as a PG too? Are people so obsessed with height that because he’s listed as 6’4”, they don’t want him as anything but PG?

IMO, the reason he’s not a full time PG isn’t because of passing skills or anything like that. He is not quick enough to push the pace. The Spurs scheme is to always push the pace. You will notice that Wesley was fast as hell to bring the ball up full court. Primo suffers from the same thing White did in that he doesn’t run like hell with the ball like Murray did. I said it over and over when White took command as PG (and his role there dwindled over time because of this) that bringing the ball up slowly affects the entire team and it brings complacency.

btw i didnt get to respond to your previous post to me. Do you have a computer yet?

Per timvp, the Spurs view Primo as the PG of the future. Ask PATFO your question.

[John B]

Per timvp, the Spurs view Primo as the PG of the future. Ask PATFO your question.

I think the intention is to make as many facilitators on this team, much like the Beautiful Game, albeit without a proven dominant scorer in the team. But I think they’re looking at Wesley as the possible PG once he gets there. Seeing this kid push the tempo is an exciting prospect

[KingKev]

Per timvp, the Spurs view Primo as the PG of the future. Ask PATFO your question.

I’m starting to think it is less about the PG of the future and more about having multiple players who can run point on any given night. Especially since we just traded our point guard of the future who was still getting better.

Regardless, someone is needed to take that leadership role to captain this ship. I don't see Primo being that leader… he doesn’t strike me as having that persona. Just seems too nice and selfless.

[Atl Spur]

I’m starting to think it is less about the PG of the future and more about having multiple players who can run point on any given night. Especially since we just traded our point guard of the future who was still getting better.

Regardless, someone is needed to take that leadership role to captain this ship. I don't see Primo being that leader… he doesn’t strike me as having that persona. Just seems too nice and selfless.

Primo isn’t nice:) he’s measured. I feel there’s some truth in a lot points made here.

[illusioNtEk]

start bryn to tank

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I’m starting to think it is less about the PG of the future and more about having multiple players who can run point on any given night. Especially since we just traded our point guard of the future who was still getting better.

Regardless, someone is needed to take that leadership role to captain this ship. I don't see Primo being that leader… he doesn’t strike me as having that persona. Just seems too nice and selfless.

If he plays offball 80% and PG 20%, I'm cool with that. I just don't want him as the primary ball handler. He is way too turnover prone despite the group think on this board about him being the best court visioned player on the roster, which I highly disagree with. His assist to TO ratio is abominable. He clearly displayed more efficiency as a wing.

Now an occasional trip up the court or two every few possessions, I'm cool with that especially if he incorporates some step back 3s and higher percentage midrange game. Aside from that let the quicker faster better passing guards take primary ball handling duties.

[Vince Carter's ankle]

If he plays offball 80% and PG 20%, I'm cool with that. I just don't want him as the primary ball handler. He is way too turnover prone despite the group think on this board about him being the best court visioned player on the roster, which I highly disagree with. His assist to TO ratio is abominable. He clearly displayed more efficiency as a wing.

Now an occasional trip up the court or two every few possessions, I'm cool with that especially if he incorporates some step back 3s and higher percentage midrange game. Aside from that let the quicker faster better passing guards take primary ball handling duties.
You can continue to grumble, but Primo will play a lot with the ball in his hands.

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You can continue to grumble, but Primo will play a lot with the ball in his hands.

Time will bare this out. He is very TO prone. Forces passes into traffic. Puts passes where people are forced to take bad shot or turn it over themselves.

At some point, he'll play himself out of the position. If this were the days of the Big 3, Pop would have benched his ass for the TOs he produces. He would have scalped 19 yr old Tony for the same shit.

[John B]

Time will bare this out. He is very TO prone. Forces passes into traffic. Puts passes where people are forced to take bad shot or turn it over themselves.

At some point, he'll play himself out of the position. If this were the days of the Big 3, Pop would have benched his ass for the TOs he produces. He would have scalped 19 yr old Tony for the same shit.

Bruh these are meaningless games and he’ll clean them up.

[RC_Drunkford]

Bruh these are meaningless games and he’ll clean them up.

not really, this was the most anticipated Spurs game of the 22/23 season

[Floyd Pacquiao]

I saw Wesley’s highlights…He already looks like a better more naturally talented basketball player than Murray

[rjv]

100% Its amazing how many people will just make mistake after mistake after mistake and never stop with their shit takes.

exactly. In fact, ST can stand for Spurs Talk or Shit Takes. More often than not, it’s the latter.

[offset formation]

Bruh these are meaningless games and he’ll clean them up.

Were the games he played in last year meaningless where he had the same issue?

[rjv]

not really, this was the most anticipated Spurs game of the 22/23 season

i wouldn’t equate most anticipated with meaningful

[Drom John]

My view, halfway up the stands center side of the Spurs bench.

I decided to watch Barlow 100%, tended to follow Wesley when Barlow was off, and Hall because he was high in Pelton stats.

Barlow: Wow!, I don't believe I've ever seen a Spur cover so much ground on defense so quickly, anticipating passes and very good help. OTOH, I don't think Barlow has ever faced a big that could shoot far away from the basket, and gave Sylla and Osborne too much room. Barlow would shake his head and over the game played a few feet further out. Barlow's speed is very good and I expect rapid defensive improvement as he learns the faster game.
6 fouls, two saving baskets as help, 1 was a miscall of a Woodard foul

Wesley played as described by many other involved.

Hall was opened mouth shocked about Cavaliers in his passing lane. Let's see if he's safer in game #2.

Branham I did not like. After several Wesley aggressive plays, Branham twice tried to drive to the basket, tripled and double team. A good shot on the double, but still on the ego dumb side. Add whining to the refs twice on offensive no-calls and once on his obvious foul, and I predict lots of quick benchings.

[Drom John]

1 Barlow foul was really a Woodard foul underneath while Barlow was guarding outside on the baseline. Several fouls were miscalled in Cox during the three games, once on a player not in the game. While we had marginal refs, it seemed that the scorer's table was mostly at fault.

[Drom John]

Best player I saw in 3 games was Josh Minott, great off ball movement, well timed screens, solid defense, and the best raw shooter.
Christian Braun was very solid, but the few times they guarded each other, Minott was the better.

The most exciting player was David Dukes, Jr. two-way hustle, with some Patty Mills sneakiness on one made-shot inbound steal.

As Russ said, very crowded, and this in Cox with the lesser games. There were significantly more drunken frat reunion groups, and significantly fewer families. I sat on the team side for the Spurs/Cavaliers as they made us fill up that side to falsely telecast a full stadium. They were open about their reason. I went to the other side for Nets/Bucks, Nuggets/Timberwolves, and the Bucks fans were the 2nd jerkiest I've seen in four years (2017-2019, 2022), and maybe only the 2nd group I'd call jerks. Still, the Bucks fans are a distant 2nd.

[John B]

Were the games he played in last year meaningless where he had the same issue?

He’s still wayyy better than DJ at that age. The point is Primo is playing much better than last year and should still get better.

[KingKev]

I saw Wesley’s highlights…He already looks like a better more naturally talented basketball player than Murray

so you watched highlights of a summer league game and came to that conclusion? Not even the whole game? Just the highlights?

[spurraider21]

I saw Wesley’s highlights…He already looks like a better more naturally talented basketball player than Murray
For those wondering, THIS is how long it takes for spur fans to stop appreciating spurs once they’re off the team. Complete homerism lol

[Mr. Body]

For those wondering, THIS is how long it takes for spur fans to stop appreciating spurs once they’re off the team. Complete homerism lol

I think people are perceiving that Murray was forcing his way out and the Spurs got in front of another Kawhi Leonard situation.

[KingKev]

I think people are perceiving that Murray was forcing his way out and the Spurs got in front of another Kawhi Leonard situation.

Regardless, that level of analysis is 75% of this board.

[GAustex]

14 is already faster with the ball than Murray
Murray mid range cross over pull up game was great and 14 needs to replicate that.

[Chinook]

For those wondering, THIS is how long it takes for spur fans to stop appreciating spurs once they’re off the team. Complete homerism lol

I think that was a poor way of phrasing things, but it was a relief to see a rookie that didn't seem like he needs to go to Austin to learn how to play basketball. Maybe White was also in that camp, but he was 23. Wesley looks like a rookie and will probably look even more so when he's in the company of real NBA players, but he did look like the best rookie the Spurs have had in the SL in a long time. Even his major weakness that's supposed to keep him from having an NBA role, shooting, seemed like something he might be able to work with. I don't think it's close to think that Wesley is showing way more at this point in his career than Murray did. People forget that DeJounte wasn't even considered a good defender in college. He had to grow a lot more than Wesley would have to to be an impact NBA player. It doesn't mean Wesley will do that, but I'm definitely happy with the pick at this point. I was much more reserved during the draft.

[Mr. Body]

I would hope everyone slows their roll on Blake a bit. He's known for being inefficient and streaky. His speed was terrific, his vision was clear, his defense was good, but he's going to follow up games like these with stinkers. He'll get there.

[Ariel]

I would hope everyone slows their roll on Blake a bit. He's known for being inefficient and streaky. His speed was terrific, his vision was clear, his defense was good, but he's going to follow up games like these with stinkers. He'll get there.
I was going to say pretty much the same. Don't expect him to always be efficient, but look beyond that. The raw tools are right there in front of our eyes, the rest will come given enough time and practice. We just have to keep this in mind when he struggles.

[John B]

The best thing about Wesley is he plays with a chip on his shoulder. The kid knows he belongs, or if not he will work hard to make sure he does. I’m not surprised they had to separate them at workout because he was that driven. That bears the question, IF Malaki is “too nice” and easily defers? Because Blake thought he came out as the best player on that workout. The last game Malaki seems a little too passive at first, and only until later on that he starts shooting and getting to his spots. I just hope that Malaki is not “too nice” like Derrick was. Derrick has all the skills, if only he was more driven like DJ. Let’s see the next game.

[Mnky]

Agree wholeheartedly. It's funny to see the goal already being moved, his sophomore season not having officially started yet... And you forgot to mention: this SpursTalk hatewagon is the same people who spent YEARS on the "Dejounte isn't a PG!! He can't even dribble, nor shoot!!" train, whilst DJ developed all the way from a clunky, lanky and awkward kid, into a literal All-Star level player. Like, we've played out this EXACT movie the past 4-5 years... And people STILL haven't learned shit from it.

I'm not saying Primo is a surefire PG (I don't even know if I'd want him there; I haven't seen the apparently ground-breaking concept of "point-forward" mentioned once in this thread, and that's exactly where I'm seeing Primo shine in the future). But the discrediting arguments at this point in time are ridiculous, especially given the very visible improvements on his game & physique from last year. He popped out of the frame in the 4th, when he cared to do so (and his coach told him to "gimme more of that").

Spot on.

[Mnky]

I think that was a poor way of phrasing things, but it was a relief to see a rookie that didn't seem like he needs to go to Austin to learn how to play basketball. Maybe White was also in that camp, but he was 23. Wesley looks like a rookie and will probably look even more so when he's in the company of real NBA players, but he did look like the best rookie the Spurs have had in the SL in a long time. Even his major weakness that's supposed to keep him from having an NBA role, shooting, seemed like something he might be able to work with. I don't think it's close to think that Wesley is showing way more at this point in his career than Murray did. People forget that DeJounte wasn't even considered a good defender in college. He had to grow a lot more than Wesley would have to to be an impact NBA player. It doesn't mean Wesley will do that, but I'm definitely happy with the pick at this point. I was much more reserved during the draft.

Wesley and Primo are both well ahead of DJM. They both have the same work ethic and dog in them as well. Wesley seems much more of a team centric player as well for me than Primo as far as doing the little things, especially on defense. He was very fun to watch. Put him with players who can open the court for him and I expect to see some highlights from him sooner than later. He said he sees himself as a PG first. I think him and vassell will compliment eachother very well on defense. Primo and keldon obviously with the shooting. Hope he gets the opportunity to play with them.

[Mr. Body]

The best thing about Wesley is he plays with a chip on his shoulder. The kid knows he belongs, or if not he will work hard to make sure he does. I’m not surprised they had to separate them at workout because he was that driven. That bears the question, IF Malaki is “too nice” and easily defers? Because Blake thought he came out as the best player on that workout. The last game Malaki seems a little too passive at first, and only until later on that he starts shooting and getting to his spots. I just hope that Malaki is not “too nice” like Derrick was. Derrick has all the skills, if only he was more driven like DJ. Let’s see the next game.

I don't want to say Branham is passive, or that he's more cerebral while Wesley is more instinctive. That seems unfair to both of them. Branham might have a more system-oriented game and even an analytical approach. It's worth remembering that it took him a little while to start impacting his OSU team. Once he droped 35 on Nebraska, he barely looked back. In one thread I broke down his stats in his last 20 games, which I believe were all double digits, and then his last 10 games, including conference and national tournaments. His production kept ramping up.

[heyheymymy]

Yeah Branham ages like a fine wine. There is a total college compilation game tape YouTube that's like 2 hours long and it goes in order and at first you're like that's it? But you see how Bran progresses over the course of the season at tOSU and by mid tape he is going one man army just totally taking over games.

[Chinook]

I think Primo and Wesley have a chance to be a great fit as a backcourt pair. I guess they wouldn't have to start together, but if Blake's defense is a big positive for him, then it might back sense. For folks who want Johnson on the team as a small-forward, it starts to create a crunch with Vassell. Maybe Wesley would be a better sixth man, but I kind of think that'll be what Branham does. If everyone pans out, it'll be something to worry about. Now, it's just nice that there are options.

[Dejounte]

Maybe the end game is

Wesley
Primo
Vassell
Keldon
Sochan

spurs death line up

[heyheymymy]

Maybe the end game is

Wesley
Primo
Vassell
Keldon
Sochan

spurs death line up

::preorders Spurs NBA 2027 back to back Champs official apparel::

[rascal]

Maybe the end game is

Wesley
Primo
Vassell
Keldon
Sochan

spurs death line up

Great lineup for the tank season.

[Gagnrath]

Bran reminding me of that Anderson pick a decade or so ago

A different OSU lol wasnt he okla. St.


Anderson looked good for a few summer league games and a preseason game or two. Then he hurt his foot and was never right again. Ended up having a pretty decent Euroleague career but never really got another shot and I honestly doubt he was looking for it.

[Gagnrath]

westbrook
I have no idea what his vet minimum rate is, but if he signs for that why not?

[heyheymymy]

Anderson looked good for a few summer league games and a preseason game or two. Then he hurt his foot and was never right again. Ended up having a pretty decent Euroleague career but never really got another shot and I honestly doubt he was looking for it.

Agreed, and it's a shame. Looked really useful and impactful before that perfect storm injury. Just never was the same again, so much of his shot mechanics were altered by the injury. Shot would come up looking like a wounded duck after that.

[heyheymymy]

Anderson lost a lot of explosiveness on that first step too. Foot injury was a direct hit

[Atl Spur]

Read better and get your Primo panties out of a wad. I said Wesley is a better PG, not overall player....yet I'm not ready to make that statement. But I'll remind you Blake scored from multiple positions whereas Primo largely was from 3. So while you think you're shading me, I'm not so sure it's a wild statement. I bet you this, by Wesley's second year in the league like Primo is currently entering, you can take it to the bank he'll be a more advanced player.


And you know shit about basketball Atl. Your blind allegiance to Primo is a running joke on this board.



This won’t age well:)

[GAustex]

This won’t age well:)
Miss Cleo tell us again of the future

[Atl Spur]

Miss Cleo tell us again of the future

I’m here for people just like you:) what would you like to know? ( I’m sure that list is long )

[Atl Spur]

Don’t be shy homegirl , speak your truth!

[Atl Spur]

#imagirldadonspurstalk

[GAustex]

Miss Cleo says a lot but also nothing

[Atl Spur]

Miss Cleo says a lot but also nothing

You have my attention little girl; what can I do for you?

[GAustex]

You have my attention little girl; what can I do for you?
Miss Cleo you seem angry
Are you on your period again
Take some Mydol

[Atl Spur]

Miss Cleo you seem angry
Are you on your period again
Take some Mydol

I’m confused, you commented on my post, I then give you my attention, and now the cat has your tongue. Speak…

[Atl Spur]

Just so you know, you are our entertainment in the office on the big screen��

[GAustex]

I’m confused, you commented on my post, I then give you my attention, and now the cat has your tongue. Speak…
Tell us again o seer Miss Cleo
Tell of us of last years lotto pick who would be this years second rounder will save us instead of 14.
Tell to forget how utterly putrid last years lotto pick was not only last year but also in Summer league
Tell us not to worry about the turnovers and the lack of ability to separate and how this translates to an NBA PG

[Atl Spur]

Tell us again o seer Miss Cleo
Tell of us of last years lotto pick who would be this years second rounder will save us instead of 14.
Tell to forget how utterly putrid last years lotto pick was not only last year but also in Summer league
Tell us not to worry about the turnovers and the lack of ability to separate and how this translates to an NBA PG

……….. you are not well! Be easy:)

[GAustex]

……….. you are not well! Be easy:)
Miss Cleo says a lot but also nothing

[Vince Carter's ankle]

Get a room.

[ismael-robert]

Gaustex n atl have been confirmed as alts of each other

[GAustex]

That ain’t right
Come on man