Chip Engelland : the End !

[duncan2150]

https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/1546589695953420291

[TimmehC]

I know we don't like Fischer, but he was right about Dejounte tbh. This sucks almost as bad, if true.
https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/1546589695953420291?t=qaMkRd0FwK-jB-TI4RDuGA&s=19

[TimmehC]

Eh, plz delete. The other thread was posted first and didn't fuck up the embed.

[mo7888]

https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/1546589695953420291

When does his contract end?

[RC_Drunkford]

wow. The biggest asset this franchise had left. Nail in the coffin right there

[Russ]

The fucking coyote will be next.

[bluebellmaniac]

Ouch! Did they at least start the cloning process?

[baseline bum]

When does his contract end?

Hopefully 2030 when the team moves after not getting a welfare arena from taxpayers.

[Atl Spur]

The fucking coyote will be next.

Lol

[Robz4000]

:lol welp, so much for Sochan improving his shot

[timvp]

Damn, it's true.

Wonder where he is headed. Warriors? Jazz? Kings? Retirement?

[RC_Drunkford]

Honestly this franchise is cooked for years to come. Might turn into the Sacramento Kings

[Robz4000]

Damn, it's true.

Wonder where he is headed. Warriors? Jazz? Kings? Retirement?

Warriors apparently. Kerr recruited the shit out him to help out Kuminga and Wiseman.

[Robz4000]

Honestly this franchise is cooked for years to come. Might turn into the Sacramento Kings

Already there tbh, they're wasting lottery picks on second rounders.

[BackHome]

Man I hope that is not true if so another reason to hate those bastards

[RC_Drunkford]

gotta thank PATFO for turning this franchise into shit ever since the 2017 offseason. And a lot of people here called it right then and there

[Leetonidas]

Damn, it's true.

Wonder where he is headed. Warriors? Jazz? Kings? Retirement?

When is his contract up?

[Robz4000]

When is his contract up?

End of the month apparently.

[KobesAchilles]

And so it begins.
Bad ownership
Unproven GM
Unproven coach soon
Bad roster
and Bad assistant coaches
This is how you become the Kings

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

sochan ded now

[Darius Bieber]

And so it begins.
Bad ownership
Unproven GM
Unproven coach soon
Bad roster
and Bad assistant coaches
This is how you become the Kings

We're pretty much the Kings already tbh and have been for a few years.

[Robz4000]

And so it begins.
Bad ownership
Unproven GM
Unproven coach soon
Bad roster
and Bad assistant coaches
This is how you move a team to Las Vegas

Ftfy

[cd98]

Ouch, there goes player development, the best thing the Spurs have going for them.

[poopbox]

Got tired of us being toward the bottom of the league in 3 point shooting to be honest

[John B]

This is ridiculous if other team is poaching again.

[The Truth #6]

I think he and Steve Kerr went to high school together, so I’m almost surprise we held onto him as long as we did.

[Dverde]

He going to devote his last years with Shawn Marion.

[TD 21]

Who cares? This guy has been living off of Parker becoming a solid mid range pullup shooter and Scumbag a relatively well rounded one for years.

In recent years, only Murray (but he was a virtual non shooter when he arrived and is still mostly limited to mid range pullups) and possibly Johnson (still a relatively small sample size on his spot up 3) have shown significant improvement in their shooting. White, Walker IV and it's still early, but Vassell and Primo have all underperformed expectations, among others.

I don't blame him, but he isn't the miracle worker he's made out to be.

[Dverde]

Who cares? This guy has been living off of Parker becoming a solid mid range pullup shooter and Scumbag a relatively well rounded one for years.

In recent years, only Murray (but he was a virtual non shooter when he arrived and is still mostly limited to mid range pullups) and possibly Johnson (still a relatively small sample size on his spot up 3) have shown significant improvement in their shooting. White, Walker IV and it's still early, but Vassell and Primo have all underperformed expectations, among others.

I don't blame him, but he isn't the miracle worker he's made out to be.

I agree with you. Chip was an innovator, but every team has a “Chip” now. Spurs probably already have his replacement on staff.

[Dex]

End of the month apparently.

https://c.tenor.com/2cVmIkey2V8AAAAd/pokemon-pikachu.gif

[RC_Drunkford]

I agree with you. Chip was an innovator, but every team has a “Chip” now. Spurs probably already have his replacement on staff.

I highly doubt the Spurs have a proper replacement. They will have somebody to replace him, but given how this fanchise has replaced people for the last half a decade the quality will take a huge hit. It's like replacing Dejounte Murray with Tre Jones

[Darius Bieber]

I highly doubt the Spurs have a proper replacement. They will have somebody to replace him, but given how this fanchise has replaced people for the last half a decade the quality will take a huge hit. It's like replacing Dejounte Murray with Tre Jones

I'd argue it would be replacing the best PG with Tre Jones. Chip Engelland was widely regarded as the best shooting coach in the league, bar none. This is like replacing Steve Nash / Magic Johnson with Tre Jones.

[RC_Drunkford]

or replacing Kawhi Leonard with DeMar DeRozan. Or Danny Green with Bryn Forbes. Or Marcus Morris with Trey Lyles. Or LaMarcus Aldridge with Zach Collins. Or Derrick White with Josh Primo.

[DAF86]

Folks acting as if this was the retirement of Tim Duncan. :lol

What shooting secret can Chip actually have left that no other staff member of the Spurs don't already know by now?

Straighten that elbow, shoot it from your eyes, bend those knees, follow through. There aren't many more secrets than that, tbh.

[Leetonidas]

End of the month apparently.

Fuck :pctoss


ah well, cant blame him for not wanting to waste the rest of his career in this shithole

[RC_Drunkford]

Folks acting as if this was the retirement of Tim Duncan. :lol

What shooting secret can Chip actually have left that no other staff member of the Spurs don't already know by now?

Straighten that elbow, shoot it from your eyes, bend those knees, follow through. There aren't many more secrets than that, tbh.

of course your dumbass had to come in here thinking Chip is just a shooting coach :lmao

[BatManu20]

Fuckin A.

[rjv]

wonder if this is a clue as to pop's remaining time.

[Vince Carter's ankle]

Already there tbh, they're wasting lottery picks on second rounders.
Sochan and Vassell are second rounders?

[Robz4000]

Sochan and Vassell are second rounders?

:lol was talking about Primo

[DAF86]

of course your dumbass had to come in here thinking Chip is just a shooting coach :lmao

He could be the Pope for all I care. At the end of the day he isn't more than an assistant coach. The Spurs future won't depend on his departure, as some folks in here seem to be thinking, by the way they are reacting. :lol

[baseline bum]

:lol was talking about Primo

Though Vassell hasn't been all that either.

[Mnky]

As much as he is hyped up, when's the last time the spurs were a good shooting team, tbh?

[baseline bum]

He could be the Pope for all I care. At the end of the day he isn't more than an assistant coach. The Spurs future won't depend on his departure, as some folks in here seem to be thinking, by the way they are reacting. :lol

Yeah the guy who fixed the completely broken shots of Tony Parker and Kawhi Leonard ain't shit.

[Mr. Body]

Though Vassell hasn't been all that either.

That draft sucked... but Halliburton.

[ace3g]

Hopefully he gets to work with Sochan before he leaves.

[RC_Drunkford]

He could be the Pope for all I care. At the end of the day he isn't more than an assistant coach. The Spurs future won't depend on his departure, as some folks in here seem to be thinking, by the way they are reacting. :lol

the best shooting coach in the world isn't more than an assistant coach :lmao ok, so Steph Curry can be replaced by Bryn Forbes with no drop off :lol

[K...]

didn't we poach him to begin with? he's been here almost 20 years. i don't see a problem. We would probably be overpaying him for working with this roster.

[Mugen]

Par for the course for the San Antonio Feeders tbh :lol

[Ariel]

the best shooting coach in the world isn't more than an assistant coach :lmao ok, so Steph Curry can be replaced by Bryn Forbes with no drop off :lol
He's got a great track record, but many other organizations have also had great success improving player's shooting, like Toronto and NO among others. I don't know where he is going, but if it's Golden State (they're paying north of 170M in luxury tax) or he's retiring, there's nothing you can do but find the best possible replacement.

[Seventyniner]

He was never going to stay forever. He isn't terribly old (61) but might be ready for a transition now that the Spurs are no longer even pretending to be competitive.

Sucks, but things like this happen.

[DAF86]

Yeah the guy who fixed the completely broken shots of Tony Parker and Kawhi Leonard ain't shit.

I'm not saying Chip ain't shit, but he's definitely overrated. There are thousands of shooting coaches who have fixed broken shots all around the globe but aren't seen as the second coming of Jesus. For every shot that Chip "fixed", there are just as many players who couldn't improve their shooting under his tutelage. The guy is definitely good at what he does, that's why he's where he is, but he isn't some kind of difference maker. All shooting coaches tell you more or less the same shit. It all depends on the players.

[DAF86]

the best shooting coach in the world isn't more than an assistant coach :lmao ok, so Steph Curry can be replaced by Bryn Forbes with no drop off :lol

See? This is the kind of shit I'm talking about. Comparing an assistant coach to one of the greatest players of all-time. :lol

Relax sons, believe it or not, this guy was just an assistant coach.

[RC_Drunkford]

He's got a great track record, but many other organizations have also had great success improving player's shooting, like Toronto and NO among others. I don't know where he is going, but if it's Golden State (they're paying north of 170M in luxury tax) or he's retiring, there's nothing you can do but find the best possible replacement.

yeah, but he's more than just a shooting coach. He's like the main component to our player development program being as good as it is. I really hope he's not going to another franchise

[Dex]

didn't we poach him to begin with? he's been here almost 20 years. i don't see a problem. We would probably be overpaying him for working with this roster.

I'd argue we need him now more than ever. So many young players to develop, several with seeming shooting deficiencies (Jones, Primo, Vassell, Sochan, Branham)....and now he decides to jump ship?

I agree that he's either angling towards retirement, or going to Golden State to work with his buddy Kerr.

[Ariel]

yeah, but he's more than just a shooting coach. He's like the main component to our player development program being as good as it is. I really hope he's not going to another franchise
Again. The Warriors are paying 170 MILLION in luxury tax... if he's going there (like someone said over here), do you think there's a chance in hell we could stop him? The Spurs have made a habit of finding and promoting staff... they're going to have to do it again.

[RC_Drunkford]

Again. The Warriors are paying 170 MILLION in luxury tax... if he's going there (like someone said over here), do you think there's a chance in hell we could stop him? The Spurs have made a habit of finding and promoting staff... they're going to have to do it again.

why not? Pop is by far the highest paid coach in the NBA, so who says we can't pay Chip? Especially with our team not even using the entire salary cap as of now

[rascal]

He's been told to leave after Primo's shooting night.

[TDomination]

Simple solution. Bring in the guy he helped. TP can be our new shooting coach lol

[spurraider21]

gotta thank PATFO for turning this franchise into shit ever since the 2017 offseason. And a lot of people here called it right then and there
props to them scouting a 10 year old wembanyama and planning this all out tbh

[spurraider21]

Ouch, there goes player development, the best thing the Spurs have going for them.
Forcier leaving was a bigger deal than this will be, imo

[offset formation]

As much as he is hyped up, when's the last time the spurs were a good shooting team, tbh?

Round about when they were a good defensive team.

[slick'81]

Chip leaving the sinking ship

[baseline bum]

I highly doubt the Spurs have a proper replacement. They will have somebody to replace him, but given how this fanchise has replaced people for the last half a decade the quality will take a huge hit. It's like replacing Dejounte Murray with Tre Jones

It'll be like when they replaced RC with Brian Wrong. Can't blame Chip if goes to GSW though, trades in a tank for a title team, 108 degree days for 67 degree days, Whataburger for world class dining, etc.

[Robz4000]

It'll be like when they replaced RC with Brian Wrong. Can't blame Chip if goes to GSW though, trades in a tank for a title team, 108 degree days for 67 degree days, Whataburger for world class dining, etc.

Same thing tbh.

[TekXX]

He gave us 17 years of his prime so if he wants to leave for a contender than i say shake his hand and wish him well. We can find another shooting coach.

[John B]

I’m pretty sure all the mechanics are properly recorded, taped, as part of this team’s archives.

[Brazil]

Simple solution. Bring in the guy he helped. TP can be our new shooting coach lol

:lol

good luck to him... after all those years I can understand he wants to discover something different tbh... wish him the best

[RC_Drunkford]

so apparently nobody knows when his contract expires as terms are not available to the public. I hope it's a couple more years, but doesn't sound like it

[Thomas82]

so apparently nobody knows when his contract expires as terms are not available to the public. I hope it's a couple more years, but doesn't sound like it

I keep hearing people say the end of this month.

[Ocotillo]

Whether Pop retires this after this season or later, the end is approaching sooner rather than later and Chip may just feel it's time.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Heard it is end of this season.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Well, he's been on the Spurs' sidelines forever. We'll probably have a whole new crew coaching the team within two seasons anyway.

[R. DeMurre]

Chip seems like a very patient man. Pop's on record saying the three point shot ruined basketball, while Chip first made his mark at Duke shooting 55% from the 3pt line. They're an interesting pair.

[Mugen]

Well, he's been on the Spurs' sidelines forever. We'll probably have a whole new crew coaching the team within two seasons anyway.

God willing tbh

[exstatic]

gotta thank PATFO for turning this franchise into shit ever since the 2017 offseason. And a lot of people here called it right then and there

Thank that asshole Kawhi. He’s the one that upset the apple cart.

[ducks]

Thank that asshole Kawhi. He’s the one that upset the apple cart.

He was from California what do you expect

[exstatic]

:lol was talking about Primo

So, you pluralized it for drama?

[J_Paco]

A lot guys shooting regressed under Chip's watch last season. Might be time for a younger voice that can help guys be more than just below average to goodish stand - still shooters.

[RC_Drunkford]

Thank that asshole Kawhi. He’s the one that upset the apple cart.

certainly the main reason, but trading him for Defrozan and everything that followed afterwards wasn‘t exactly smart. Also still don’t who the guy who disrespected Kawhi and couldn‘t be fired was

[BackHome]

It'll be like when they replaced RC with Brian Wrong. Can't blame Chip if goes to GSW though, trades in a tank for a title team, 108 degree days for 67 degree days, Whataburger for world class dining, etc.l

But he leaving all those "Unique Breakfast Tacos" How Could He Do This.....:cry

[wildbill2u]

Someone said He and Kerr went to high school together so that puts him as a native Californian, as Kerr says, "...from the mean streets of Pacific Palisades". Maybe he just wants to return there and prepare for retirement with a championship quality team. Not to mention he probably has some great retirement benefits after 20 years with the Spurs. He can be a double dipper until he decides to finally retire.

[Maddog]

Someone said He and Kerr went to high school together so that puts him as a native Californian, as Kerr says, "...from the mean streets of Pacific Palisades". Maybe he just wants to return there and prepare for retirement with a championship quality team. Not to mention he probably has some great retirement benefits after 20 years with the Spurs. He can be a double dipper until he decides to finally retire.

Looks like the same high school- Pacific palisades Kerr 83, Chip 79 not sure they overlapped but close.
15 years with one team, 61 years
Current head coach a retirement possibility every year. Makes sense- thanks Chip and best of luck with whatever you do.

Also makes sense for the Spurs to move on from him. They have a whole team of under age drinkers and need someone more long term

[jjspur]

He gave us 17 years of his prime so if he wants to leave for a contender than i say shake his hand and wish him well. We can find another shooting coach.

Apparently he doesn't care for the tanking mentality and is going where tank is considered a bad four letter word like f**K .

[Ice009]

Apparently he doesn't care for the tanking mentality and is going where tank is considered a bad four letter word like f**K .

Where did you read this? Has anyone found out when his contract expires?

[Kurgan]

Wouldn't be surprised if the Warriors are poaching him. They probably see the writing on the wall with their big three aging and don't want to end up like the Spurs after Duncan/Manu/Parker retired. Apparently, they're doubling their developmental staff and already took key people from Toronto.

[offset formation]

Wouldn't be surprised if the Warriors are poaching him. They probably see the writing on the wall with their big three aging and don't want to end up like the Spurs after Duncan/Manu/Parker retired. Apparently, they're doubling their developmental staff and already took key people from Toronto.

I think they're set for another 3 to 5 years. I think their odds or ringing next year are better than they were this year.

Not only do they get Wiseman back, they have two guys from their G League team that have dropped 30+ in summer league outside of Wiseman. Steph and Klay will eventually fall off but they'll be good for another 5 yrs. I'd count on at least 1 if not 2 more rings on that span.