Adam Silver called out RC Burford :lol

[LkrFan]

1546689789084086273

:wow

[LkrFan]

The Spurs are trend setters. They set (bad) trends :lol

[exstatic]

RC didn’t do it, because HE’S NOT THE FUCKING COACH. Silver is probably scuurred to call out Pop.

[LkrFan]

RC didn’t do it, because HE’S NOT THE FUCKING COACH. Silver is probably scuurred to call out Pop.

:lol

[spurraider21]

Silver’s right tbh

[John B]

Having Timmy (and for that matter Tony and Manu) played longer with managed minutes with bad knee, instead of shorter career. Fans got to watch and enjoy watching them play longer. Wtf

[Spursfanfromafar]

The Spurs didn't sit stars for the whole season to contend for another season. They sat stars in back-to-backs/ or what poundingtherock.com calls SEGABABAs or THIGAFONIs. And that too stars in the 30s, in the late/ mid-late years of their career. It turned out well. Their star trio (TD, TP, MG) played 19, 19 and 17 years in the league and were productive in the later years of their careers (they never missed the playoffs when they played for the Spurs). Adam Silver is conflating what is effective load management with wilful shirking of work by the likes of Irving, Durant, Leonard etc.

[Strategic]

Looks like there’s an Adam silver sniffer in the group

[rascal]

Spur fans are getting upset about this?

[Dex]

Spur fans are getting upset about this?

Not at all. Spurs did everything within the rules (with the exception of the incident in Miami where they "didn't report in time" and got fined). And even that, I think Pop was trying to make a point because the Spurs had played like 4 games in 7 days with the last game being a nationally broadcast, high profile game against the Heat.

I'm not a huge fan of "load management" especially since it is now basically synonymous with the likes of Nephew, but if the NBA doesn't want teams resting players without reason, change the rules or otherwise STFU.

Teams have been resting players in the final games of the season for years, and the Spurs know all to well what can happen if you play your stars in a meaningless game (Manu breaking his arm just before the 2011 playoffs)

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

The prima donna superstars of the league run the front offices now, dictate trades, sink franchises, determine their playing time, shift the balance of power heavily into the hands of major markets.

Maybe Silver should be calling out Lebron, KD, Kawhi and some of execs of major market teams while he's at it.

WGAF about the Silver comment, but it's honestly kind of dick move with everything else that's fvcked up about the league these days.

[ismael-robert]

Hmm interesting u bring up miami game n now we get like no national games...silver wins

[Mr. Body]

Goddamn, Adam Silver doesn't know who the coach of the Spurs is.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Goddamn, Adam Silver doesn't know who the coach of the Spurs is.

I think Ex called it. He's afraid to call out Pop.

[lefty]

The prima donna superstars of the league run the front offices now, dictate trades, sink franchises, determine their playing time, shift the balance of power heavily into the hands of major markets.

Maybe Silver should be calling out Lebron, KD, Kawhi and some of execs of major market teams while he's at it.

WGAF about the Silver comment, but it's honestly kind of dick move with everything else that's fvcked up about the league these days.

The game is faster and more athletic today and given the brutal schedule and the amount of back to backs, followed by the playoffs, it’s hard to blame the playets

back in the good old days, NBA’ stars could play a full season because the pace wasn’t the same and they faced unathletic YMCA janitors which wasn’t very energy draining tbh. I’m sure Hakeem didn’t break a sweat when he was matched up against Joe Wolf one night and Olliver Miller 2 days later

[JeffDuncan]

The most frustrating thing for the fans is how incompetent, and corrupt, the officiating is in the NBA. The incompetence, and corruption, detract from every game that’s played.

[ducks]

RC didn’t do it, because HE’S NOT THE FUCKING COACH. Silver is probably scuurred to call out Pop.

Silver needs to grow a pair of balls

[CGD]

Meh, we had that 2012-2015 Indian summer of a run because of "load management" of our geriatric players.

[daslicer]

Silver showing how weak and inept of a leader he is like always by not taking accountability for creating this load management environment we have today. Silver set a bad precedent when he allowed Kawhi to pull his holdout stunt on the Spur which paved the way for other players to pull the same type of stunts.

[John B]

Silver showing how weak and inept of a leader he is like always by not taking accountability for creating this load management environment we have today. Silver set a bad precedent when he allowed Kawhi to pull his holdout stunt on the Spur which paved the way for other players to pull the same type of stunts.

But that's not even Load Management. That's just Kawhi playing a douche bag. Load management allows team, if properly used, to rest their players enough to get them in maximum performance and allow them to have longevity. Silver should know the difference

[widowmaker]

The Spurs are trend setters. They set (bad) trends :lol


Maybe if the laker would have load managed kobe he wouldn’t have ended up splattered on the side of a mountain.

[daslicer]

But that's not even Load Management. That's just Kawhi playing a douche bag. Load management allows team, if properly used, to rest their players enough to get them in maximum performance and allow them to have longevity. Silver should know the difference

I know what load management is when it it's being used for good like what the Spurs did with Duncan and Manu from '12-'17. What Kawhi did with the hold out broke the system when it comes to load management. After he came back the Raptors took it to the next level with him by allowing him to sit out games whenever he wanted and other teams and players started copying it. Silver set the precedent for this bs to happen by not cracking down on Kawhi's hold out and then Kawhi got brazen enough to sit out games whenever he wanted to with the Raptors and Clippers in which the rest of the star players in the league copied.

This is all on Silver to me he is playing the typical deflection game weak leaders play when they don't want to man up and admit they were wrong.

[John B]

I know what load management is when it it's being used for good like what the Spurs did with Duncan and Manu from '12-'17. What Kawhi did with the hold out broke the system when it comes to load management. After he came back the Raptors took it to the next level with him by allowing him to sit out games whenever he wanted and other teams and players started copying it. Silver set the precedent for this bs to happen by not cracking down on Kawhi's hold out and then Kawhi got brazen enough to sit out games whenever he wanted to with the Raptors and Clippers in which the rest of the star players in the league copied.

This is all on Silver to me he is playing the typical deflection game weak leaders play when they don't want to man up and admit they were wrong.

Yeah but you mentioned Kawhi did it with the Spurs. That wasn't load management. Wrong team bruh.

Anyways, Silver should see the difference between what players are abusing as load management, with what teams are trying to rest their players. And it's an a-hole move to point on RC (and the Spurs) who's always finding ways to make teams and players better, no wonder everybody's copying the Spurs and recruiting their coaches and personnel. That was dumb of Silver there.

[illusioNtEk]

You know what? These players get paid millions and should be out there grinding there bodys for us to watch. There should be fines for not playing and give that money back to the workers at the arena. If Spurs feel its worth sitting a SUPERSTAR out then pay a fee.

[bluebellmaniac]

Is there a link to what he said. I haven't seen it. TIA

[John B]

You know what? These players get paid millions and should be out there grinding there bodys for us to watch. There should be fines for not playing and give that money back to the workers at the arena. If Spurs feel its worth sitting a SUPERSTAR out then pay a fee.

Yup and the Spurs would've only had Timmy for 14 years instead of 19.

[exstatic]

Is there a link to what he said. I haven't seen it. TIA

The first post has an embedded YouTube video of the presser.

[bluebellmaniac]

The first post has an embedded YouTube video of the presser.

Hmmm... I only see the face icon... I can't see the embedded YouTube vid.

[slick'81]

Spurs making it a little too obvious this season:lol

[John B]

Hmmm... I only see the face icon... I can't see the embedded YouTube vid.


https://youtu.be/-aZF2hNe8Lk

Pointing to RC (the Spurs) is dumb. Spurs ahead of everybody with managing minutes as a science. Whatever the players are abusing as "load management" is what the league should look into if not justified. But putting RC on the spot (and he didn't seem to be joking about it) was both dumb and a-hole move.

[John B]

Spurs making it a little too obvious this season:lol

But Spurs are not "load managing" this season. I don't think they will even be tanking, just playing and developing young players, which may happen to win less games.

But the end-game for the Spurs and still is ultimately winning at the end, whether this year or the following.

The problem is Spurs are going against the grain and ruffling some feathers. It may not necessarily sell tickets.

[Mr. Body]

David Stern hated the Spurs (and most everyone else) for not being the Lakers. Adam Silver hates the Spurs for not steering Kawhi to LA like they were supposed to. He'll never forgive.

[daslicer]

Yeah but you mentioned Kawhi did it with the Spurs. That wasn't load management. Wrong team bruh.

Anyways, Silver should see the difference between what players are abusing as load management, with what teams are trying to rest their players. And it's an a-hole move to point on RC (and the Spurs) who's always finding ways to make teams and players better, no wonder everybody's copying the Spurs and recruiting their coaches and personnel. That was dumb of Silver there.

Again, my point was Silver did nothing of Kawhi's holdout which paved the way for him to do his ridiculous load management with the Raptors and Clippers also which created a bunch of guys copying his load management strategy and abusing it. It all traces back to Silver's ineptness with the holdout situation that paved the way for this abuse of load management.

[KobesAchilles]

The game is faster and more athletic today and given the brutal schedule and the amount of back to backs, followed by the playoffs, it’s hard to blame the playets

back in the good old days, NBA’ stars could play a full season because the pace wasn’t the same and they faced unathletic YMCA janitors which wasn’t very energy draining tbh. I’m sure Hakeem didn’t break a sweat when he was matched up against Joe Wolf one night and Olliver Miller 2 days later
I mean Jordan literally had a grocery bagger guarding him the whole fucking game and I have to hear about how great the dude is. They expanded the league and killed the Pistons by getting rid of Mahorn, the only team in Jordan’s way and the main guy who fucked him up. Then they expanded it again the second Jordan lost in the playoffs bc it was too difficult for him to play basketball for an entire month.

Players today go against other players who actually train all year round, are in shape, are faster and stronger than ever and more skilled as well bc they work on their game the whole offseason. It’s amazing to watch Lebron average 30 a game vs old man Kareem who got winded jogging to half court in his 19th year.

[cd98]

Spurs did ruin basketball with DNP rest.

[RC_Drunkford]

Gotta love Pop‘s hypocritical ass for inventing DNP Rest and Hack-A-Shaq and then turning around saying he hates how the game is being played nowadays by shooting all these 3s :lol

I think Silver just tried to be funny here. He‘s a terrible NBA commissioner if you ask me. I can‘t stand this guy

[lefty]

I mean Jordan literally had a grocery bagger guarding him the whole fucking game and I have to hear about how great the dude is. They expanded the league and killed the Pistons by getting rid of Mahorn, the only team in Jordan’s way and the main guy who fucked him up. Then they expanded it again the second Jordan lost in the playoffs bc it was too difficult for him to play basketball for an entire month.

Players today go against other players who actually train all year round, are in shape, are faster and stronger than ever and more skilled as well bc they work on their game the whole offseason. It’s amazing to watch Lebron average 30 a game vs old man Kareem who got winded jogging to half court in his 19th year.

All facts :worthy:

Also, on top of being a grocery bagger, Starks is 6’3
(Dumars was also 6’3 by the way)

That’s Steph Curry size

:lol NBA marketing and old heads glorifying midget grocery baggers to male MJ look amazing

[bluebellmaniac]

https://youtu.be/-aZF2hNe8Lk

Pointing to RC (the Spurs) is dumb. Spurs ahead of everybody with managing minutes as a science. Whatever the players are abusing as "load management" is what the league should look into if not justified. But putting RC on the spot (and he didn't seem to be joking about it) was both dumb and a-hole move.

Got it! Thanks!

[bluebellmaniac]

Just gonna have teams give some BS reason like bruise / contusion or some other thing like that. Won't change it.

[KobesAchilles]

All facts :worthy:

Also, on top of being a grocery bagger, Starks is 6’3
(Dumars was also 6’3 by the way)

That’s Steph Curry size

:lol NBA marketing and old heads glorifying midget grocery baggers to male MJ look amazing
Also and nobody wants to bring this up in an MJ goat debate. But historically, the SG position was the weakest position in the league during the 80s and the 90s. The second best SG was Drexler, who is a good player and the 3rd best was Miller, who kinda sucked. After that it was Mitch Richmond? Idk

So this amazing defense that Jordan played was used primarily against trash players. Grant and Rodman actually guarded the best players in the series. Pippen took the second best player on defensively and Jordan got to test on defense guarding the likes Byron Scott, Danny Ainge, and Jeff Hornyboy. Also he was guarded by 6 foot even Kevin Johnson in his best finals ever. If I was guarded by a guy 5ft 6 (same height advantage Jordan had) then I would average 40 ppg too

Meanwhile Pippen and Grant had to guard Magic, Barkley, Kemp, Malone, Shaq, and Ewing. Meanwhile guy like Duncan had to actually carry the team both on offense and defense. He guarded Shaq, Webber, Garnett, Dirk, Sheed, Bosh and prime Amari all to win his titles. It’s much more impressive

[BackHome]

I wonder why he did not say about teams like literally telling a starter "Hey Why Don't You Stay at Home For the Season As we trying Tank" Oklahoma......??? I know we have sit guys for reasons but not healthy Starters for like the Whole Season..

[exstatic]

Just gonna have teams give some BS reason like bruise / contusion or some other thing like that. Won't change it.

Back in the day, it was a 12 man roster, and to even sign someone to a 10 day, someone had to be ‘injured’. Plantar fasciitis was a plague upon the league. The fact that it’s virtually undetectable by any means made it an easy lie. If they intend to crack down on this, expect another spike in PF.

[baseline bum]

Not at all. Spurs did everything within the rules (with the exception of the incident in Miami where they "didn't report in time" and got fined). And even that, I think Pop was trying to make a point because the Spurs had played like 4 games in 7 days with the last game being a nationally broadcast, high profile game against the Heat.


But of course no big deal when the Heat load managed their stars last year to the point of not being able to field an 8-man roster for a road game against the Spurs that was the second night of a back to back for them, earning them a postponement and the ability to replay that game with rest.

[baseline bum]

Gotta love Pop‘s hypocritical ass for inventing DNP Rest and Hack-A-Shaq and then turning around saying he hates how the game is being played nowadays by shooting all these 3s :lol

I think Silver just tried to be funny here. He‘s a terrible NBA commissioner if you ask me. I can‘t stand this guy

Silver just letting the players have free agency while under contract has ruined this league.

[Extra Stout]

Adam Silver talks the talk. He NEVER takes the night off from Xi Jinping’s cock. He takes the full load.

[benefactor]

RC didn’t do it, because HE’S NOT THE FUCKING COACH. Silver is probably scuurred to call out Pop.

I think Ex called it. He's afraid to call out Pop.
Yep. He didn't want any of that smoke from Gregory.

[daslicer]

Silver just letting the players have free agency while under contract has ruined this league.

Silver is a pathetic cuck. He allowed the players to bend him over from the start and now has no control of the situation.

[Proxy]

reduce the number of games then, b2bs are stupid af

[daslicer]

reduce the number of games then, b2bs are stupid af

They are never going to reduce the number of games. It's all about money for them. If they reduced the number of games, then they lose billions of dollars.

[heyheymymy]

Does Adam Silver know what a roster is? If they have a Spurs jersey they are gonna play at SAs discretion don't tell SA how to run their rotations. Silver is a business man and seems to want to create a players league so it's Bron vs Steph instead of LA vs GSW. But ball is a team game. Imo player centric focus ruins this league and sucks to watch compared to more orchestral team play. Start some instagram league for that bullshit and let real fans squad.

And let's see Silver's body take a 82 game season plus PO, international play and training. All due respect but Silver has no idea what it takes as a pro athlete and Silver just wants to run the league like a business/product. Think about trimming 10 games, spacing out the schedule to support recovery for athletes and possibly seeing more names in the playoffs for once. Better product for fans, better health for players, but less profits for Silver. Same guy kinda rammed through covid at the players expense a bit imo to maintain product levels too although I did like some of his management of protocols and agree Silver took it seriously.

Also just kinda wtf if this quote is real and is not a joke. Why are you lashing out publicly at a partner? Sorry Spurs are a small market alongside bigger markets that chew through premium FAs but Spurs have to manage the few drops of skill they're allowed to get more cautiously and also small market such as they are, require development of depth and diamonds in the rough to succeed, therefore manage mins differently to best position for contention.

Uh, you kinda left us to die on nephew and basically blew the entire franchise off course the ill effects of which are still ongoing today so I hope this isn't in reference to any current team approaches vs. a more historical connotation of the behavior.

"Nothing more frustrating as fans than having players, frankly, breach fucking contract with impunity while the comish abandons all aide to the club and eagerly lands him in a more tantalizing TV market. Looking at you Silver and Snake."

[heyheymymy]

Besides Spurs almost won that game in Miami and it had a close exciting finish. Man this has me irrationally triggered lol

Fuck Sliver does this dude even watch the games? Spurs almost beat the Heat led with Mills and like Cojo and shit or whoever late bench it was back then. But I watched that game, as a fan I say it was good.

[heyheymymy]

Awww did progressive coach Pop cost China Silver some dark regime money from Xi or something? Pop straining Silver's money deals with human right violators? So sorry you soft shit lizard freak.

[Proxy]

They are never going to reduce the number of games. It's all about money for them. If they reduced the number of games, then they lose billions of dollars.

yup, so silver should stfu. makes sense for a team like duncan's spurs to coast during the rs and make big money with the playoff games

[Thomas82]

Also and nobody wants to bring this up in an MJ goat debate. But historically, the SG position was the weakest position in the league during the 80s and the 90s. The second best SG was Drexler, who is a good player and the 3rd best was Miller, who kinda sucked. After that it was Mitch Richmond? Idk

So this amazing defense that Jordan played was used primarily against trash players. Grant and Rodman actually guarded the best players in the series. Pippen took the second best player on defensively and Jordan got to test on defense guarding the likes Byron Scott, Danny Ainge, and Jeff Hornyboy. Also he was guarded by 6 foot even Kevin Johnson in his best finals ever. If I was guarded by a guy 5ft 6 (same height advantage Jordan had) then I would average 40 ppg too

Meanwhile Pippen and Grant had to guard Magic, Barkley, Kemp, Malone, Shaq, and Ewing. Meanwhile guy like Duncan had to actually carry the team both on offense and defense. He guarded Shaq, Webber, Garnett, Dirk, Sheed, Bosh and prime Amari all to win his titles. It’s much more impressive

Sadly, this fact gets conveniently left out of many discussions.

[XDT76]

The Spurs didn't sit stars for the whole season to contend for another season. They sat stars in back-to-backs/ or what poundingtherock.com calls SEGABABAs or THIGAFONIs. And that too stars in the 30s, in the late/ mid-late years of their career. It turned out well. Their star trio (TD, TP, MG) played 19, 19 and 17 years in the league and were productive in the later years of their careers (they never missed the playoffs when they played for the Spurs). Adam Silver is conflating what is effective load management with wilful shirking of work by the likes of Irving, Durant, Leonard etc.

Exactly, looking at Timmy, Manu and Tony and then look at Durant, AD, KAT, Curry, K Thompson, D Rose and so many other stars and tell me whose fans lose out more. Also that season Spurs have really bad scheduling and it was that move that NBA now no longer has four games in five or five games in seven.

[DMC]

1546689789084086273

:wow

I just know that rocket ship has a phallic shape for a reason, Silver wants to ride it.

[DMC]

I mean Jordan literally had a grocery bagger guarding him the whole fucking game and I have to hear about how great the dude is. They expanded the league and killed the Pistons by getting rid of Mahorn, the only team in Jordan’s way and the main guy who fucked him up. Then they expanded it again the second Jordan lost in the playoffs bc it was too difficult for him to play basketball for an entire month.

Players today go against other players who actually train all year round, are in shape, are faster and stronger than ever and more skilled as well bc they work on their game the whole offseason. It’s amazing to watch Lebron average 30 a game vs old man Kareem who got winded jogging to half court in his 19th year.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAyKdGPX0AUfIAl.jpg

Kawhi taking years off at a time, fat fucks like Zion who cannot stay in shape for a 250m dollar contract, G league, PEDs, half the starters with major injuries in the Finals, up and under to get to the FT line, flopping, 60% of games played at the FT line or the 3. Not a real big man in the game....Fat Doncic owning the best team in the West.

Yeah real studs today :lol

[Dex]

But of course no big deal when the Heat load managed their stars last year to the point of not being able to field an 8-man roster for a road game against the Spurs that was the second night of a back to back for them, earning them a postponement and the ability to replay that game with rest.

And the list goes on and on...

-Raptors and Clippers both let Kawhi sit out like 20-30 games a season for "load management"
-OKC held out a perfectly healthy Al Horford just so they could tank
-LeBron and AD regularly sit out games for rest
-Ben Simmons sat out an entire season because of a hurt feelings and a "bad back" and still collected checks

I'm sure Silver was just joking, but it's honestly bullshit that he wants to call out the Spurs when he has let all of this stuff happen under his regime

[KobesAchilles]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAyKdGPX0AUfIAl.jpg

Kawhi taking years off at a time, fat fucks like Zion who cannot stay in shape for a 250m dollar contract, G league, PEDs, half the starters with major injuries in the Finals, up and under to get to the FT line, flopping, 60% of games played at the FT line or the 3. Not a real big man in the game....Fat Doncic owning the best team in the West.

Yeah real studs today :lol
The lack of big man argument is false tbh. I mean KD is 6’10. Giannis is 6’11. Even fat boy Luka is 6’8. Jokic and Embiid are just as talented as any big men ever. But they can all do more than just post up in the block. I mean Giannis gets shit for like just being able to dunk but nobody says shit to Shaq about it.

And Kawhi tore his ACL. I’m not sure why you brought him up. But yeah if you want to point to Zions weight then I can point to Oliver Miller who is half the athlete Zion is. Hell I can even bring up Barkley who was shorter than Zion and admitted to weighing the same. I mean Glen Davis made the league ffs.

Stars always got the whistle so bringing up free throws is stupid. And they called touch fouls like crazy for the stars too back in the day. Nobody more so than Jordan. Everybody points out the Pistons, but literally every other team in the NBA DIDNT foul Jordan hard like that. He got touch foul after touch foul. Hell Jordan’s constant whining is literally what brought upon the flagrant foul. The dude cried his entire career about these tough fouls.