Kentucky mom believes she was poisoned by fentanyl from picking up dollar bill

[MultiTroll]

Kentucky mom believes she was poisoned by fentanyl from picking up dollar bill: 'It was taking over my body' (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/kentucky-mom-believes-she-was-poisoned-by-fentanyl-from-picking-up-dollar-bill-it-was-taking-over-my-body/ar-AAZzeTA?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=ad7c06059b7b4108b483bfea6538bdfe)

[ChumpDumper]

Kentucky moms believe a lot of things.

[MultiTroll]

Chumpy,
Is it possible she and husband are telling the truth?

Yes or No?

[SpursforSix]

Chumpy,
Is it possible she and husband are telling the truth?

Yes or No?

Definitely possible.

"The incident comes after a Tennessee sheriff's office issued a warning (https://www.foxnews.com/us/tennessee-sheriffs-office-folded-dollar-bills-fentanyl), urging people to refrain from picking up money on the ground. Officials found two bills, that tested positive for methamphetamine and fentanyl, at local gas stations."

[SpursforSix]

why'd they destroy the money?

[MultiTroll]

Definitely possible.

"The incident comes after a Tennessee sheriff's office issued a warning (https://www.foxnews.com/us/tennessee-sheriffs-office-folded-dollar-bills-fentanyl), urging people to refrain from picking up money on the ground. Officials found two bills, that tested positive for methamphetamine and fentanyl, at local gas stations."
Of course it is, especially in that area.

Chumpys folding. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Chumpy,
Is it possible she and husband are telling the truth?

Yes or No?I didn't say they were lying.

People believe a lot of things are true that are not.

Despite the couple's suspicions, Nashville police said the bill was not laced with fentanyl, shortly before destroying the money.

[MultiTroll]

Chumpy back pedaling, wow that's surprising.


Definitely possible.

"The incident comes after a Tennessee sheriff's office issued a warning (https://www.foxnews.com/us/tennessee-sheriffs-office-folded-dollar-bills-fentanyl), urging people to refrain from picking up money on the ground. Officials found two bills, that tested positive for methamphetamine and fentanyl, at local gas stations."

[ChumpDumper]

Chumpy back pedaling, wow that's surprising.Fabbs lying, wow that's not surprising at all.

Why can't you just be honest?

I said what I said and changed nothing.

They believe its something they saw on the news that happened in another state. The test of the actual bill says they're wrong.

[ChumpDumper]

Now you can tell everyone your conspiracy theory about the Kentucky police.

Or fold.

[MultiTroll]

They believe its something they saw on the news that happened in another state. The test of the actual bill says they're wrong.
The pair were traveling through Nashville with their two children at the time of the incident.

Chumpy thought since the couple are from Kentucky, the Nashville police warning against tainted dollar bills and testing did not apply. Chumpy is wrong.


I said what I said and changed nothing.
Couldn't agree more, Numby.

[ChumpDumper]

The pair were traveling through Nashville with their two children at the time of the incident.

Chumpy thought since the couple are from Kentucky, the Nashville police warning against tainted dollar bills and testing did not apply. Chumpy is wrong.


Couldn't agree more, Numby.Tennessee is a another state to people from Kentucky.

Changes nothing.

Despite the couple's suspicions, Nashville police said the bill was not laced with fentanyl, shortly before destroying the money.

They tested it. They found no fentanyl.

I guess you have to make the conspiracy theory about the Nashville police then.

Let's see it.

[MultiTroll]

Now you can tell everyone your conspiracy theory about the Kentucky police.

Or fold.
Kentucky police?
The entire incident took place in Nashville.

Chumpy trying to lie and change the story to fit his narrative.
Surprise level? Zero.

Are you uninformed about Kentucky and Tennessee?
Yes or No?

[ChumpDumper]

I mean, why dollar bills? If anyone used it to snort fentanyl they'd be dead pretty quickly. If you want to kill someone by coating money with it, make it a twenty so they're definitely pick it up.

[ChumpDumper]

Kentucky police?
The entire incident took place in Nashville.Yes.

I guess you have to make the conspiracy theory about the Nashville police then.

Let's see it.

[SpursforSix]

I mean, why dollar bills? If anyone used it to snort fentanyl they'd be dead pretty quickly. If you want to kill someone by coating money with it, make it a twenty so they're definitely pick it up.

WTF. Everyone will pick up a dollar bill.

[ChumpDumper]

More reasons why Kentucky mom isn't right.

In an email to The Dispatch Fact Check, Dr. Ryan Marino, medical toxicologist and assistant professor at Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine, pointed out some of the issues with Parsons’ story.

First, Marino explained that “incidental contact with or ‘exposure’ to fentanyl (by touch or proximity rather than ingestion) cannot and does not possibly cause overdose or toxicity as fentanyl is not readily absorbed or well-absorbed through skin and does not aerosolize under natural conditions.”

Marino explained that transdermal fentanyl patches do exist and are used to manage pain, but he notes, “These are not just fentanyl as they contain a combination product of fentanyl in a specialized solution that is able to cross the skin barrier.” He continued: “Fentanyl on the street is in powder form and does not cross the skin barrier for much the same reason as touching powder sugar does not raise your blood sugar. It’s also important to note that even the best method of delivery, the patch, is so inefficient that it requires orders of magnitude more drug because so little is absorbed. Trace amounts that could potentially be on dollar bills are pharmacologically insignificant.”

The symptoms that Parsons described after touching the dollar bill also don’t match the effects of fentanyl overdose. “She says she ‘felt like I was dying’ and ‘felt like I couldn’t breathe,’ both of which are symptoms that are relieved by opioids like fentanyl,” Marino explained. “Opioids like fentanyl suppress central respiratory drive and are useful in relieving the distress caused by severe respiratory issues.They also relieve feelings of death and dying, which is why opioids like fentanyl can be invaluable in providing comfort at the end of life. Symptoms like ‘numbness and tingling’ as well as a skin rash are not consistent with effects from fentanyl.”

Lastly, as Marino explained as well, there was no drug detected in Parsons and she was never tested for synthetic drugs as the article states.

“​​Fentanyl screens are FDA-approved and in widespread use in emergency departments,” Marino added, “and it is quite easy to detect even miniscule (and clinically insignificant) amounts of fentanyl in the human body.”

“Simply stated, poisoning in this manner is not possible,” Lewis Nelson, professor of emergency medicine and chief of the Division of Medical Toxicology at Rutgers Medical School, similarly said about Parsons’ story in an email with The Dispatch Fact Check.

In an article for STAT Nelson wrote that pharmacists, surgeons, and emergency physicians, among others, work with fentanyl because it’s commonly used as a pain medication, but have not reported passive exposure to fentanyl. Also, as Nelson notes, emergency workers are commonly exposed to fentanyl while working with overdose patients. “None of these exposure scenarios has been accompanied by worrisome clinical effects,” Nelson writes.

https://thedispatch.com/p/fact-check-fentanyl-overdose-not

[ChumpDumper]

WTF. Everyone will pick up a dollar bill.Not if they think it has killer transdermal Rocky Top fentanyl on it. A twenty would be more worth the risk.

It's all bullshit anyway.

[Judy Booty]

Not if they think it has killer transdermal Rocky Top fentanyl on it. A twenty would be more worth the risk.

It's all bullshit anyway.

Why is it bullshit? What's the motivation for it?

[ChumpDumper]

Why is it bullshit?
I posted an entire article explaining why it's bullshit. Would you like a link to three posts up? Or do you just play stupid under this screen name?

What's the motivation for it?
For the people who actually know what fentanyl does, their motivation is informing the public about a common misconception concerning the drug spread initially by the DEA.

[Judy Booty]

I posted an entire article explaining why it's bullshit. Would you like a link to three posts up? Or do you just play stupid under this screen name?

For the people who actually know what fentanyl does, their motivation is informing the public about a common misconception about the drug spread initially by the DEA.

I don't know anything about that. Do you want to have sex with a fat woman?

[MultiTroll]

https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1269486747777249281/pu/img/d5W7YRHV-v7oQKsG.jpg

Not a heterosexual on this planet that wouldn't take that Karen to bed, tbh.

[Chucho]

I didnt even post in this thread, you fucking unlikeable, friendless, socially-awkward loser .

Stick to being a penniless pedophile that Chump uses as a punching bag because derp got 86'd.

You probably got blackballed from your own family when you told your neice, "What's more exciting than ants in your pants? Uncles!".

[koriwhat]

LMFAO CumDumpster is always so hard up for his/her internet W... What a little bitch!

[koriwhat]

I don't know anything about that. Do you want to have sex with a fat woman?

You forgot CumDumpsters, "Yes or No." :lol

[ChumpDumper]

LMFAO CumDumpster is always so hard up for his/her internet W... What a little bitch!

I'm going to win the "triggering Joey" contest.

[koriwhat]

Poor CumDumpster... I don't care nor do I want to read what your bitchass has to say. :tu

YOU'S A BITCH BRO! :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Poor CumDumpster... I don't care nor do I want to read what your bitchass has to say. :tu

YOU'S A BITCH BRO! :lol

I win!:tu

[MultiTroll]

I don't know anything about that. Do you want to have sex with a fat woman?


I didnt even post in this thread,
:lol Sad San Fransico Fruitcake is triggered into projection again.

Judy Booty brought up sex with a fat woman. That is on topic applicable to you 100%.

[MultiTroll]

Now you can tell everyone your conspiracy theory about the Kentucky police.

Or fold.
I was never in the hand for "theory about the Kentucky police". You're making that up.

Do you have a conspiracy theory about why the woman got sick?

Yes or no?

[ChumpDumper]

I was never in the hand for "theory about the Kentucky police". You're making that up.

Do you have a conspiracy theory about why the woman got sick?

Yes or no?No conspiracy. She got sick and blamed it on the dollar because of the panic caused by the stupid sheriff.

Why have you bought into this panic?

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol "Cum Dumpster"

[MultiTroll]

Woman claiming she OD'd on fentanyl-laced dollar says hospital never tested her (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2022/07/15/woman-claiming-she-odd-on-fentanyl-laced-dollar-says-hospital-never-tested-her/)

[ChumpDumper]

Woman claiming she OD'd on fentanyl-laced dollar says hospital never tested her (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2022/07/15/woman-claiming-she-odd-on-fentanyl-laced-dollar-says-hospital-never-tested-her/)Even if true, there was no need to. Fentanyl doesn't work that way.

Why can't you understand that?

[MultiTroll]

Even if true, there was no need to. Fentanyl doesn't work that way.

Why can't you understand that?
You're jumping to conclusions Rumpy, desperately hoping for another self declared *e win*.

I do understand this police depts policy that given she passed the 6-10 drug screening, therefore a further test for fenty was not called for.

So we're left with what kind of illness did she have?
Also even tho fenty can be pretty much ruled out, it can't be 100% ruled out.

So was she faking it?
Yes or No?
Or was she really sickened?
Yes or No?

[ChumpDumper]

You're jumping to conclusions Rumpy, desperately hoping for another self declared *e win*.

I do understand this police depts policy that given she passed the 6-10 drug screening, therefore a further test for fenty was not called for.

So we're left with what kind of illness did she have?
Also even tho fenty can be pretty much ruled out, it can't be 100% ruled out.
It can be 100% ruled out from a dollar bill she held for a few seconds since fentanyl doesn't work that way.

If she ODed some other way, that's probably on her.

[MultiTroll]

It can be 100% ruled out from a dollar bill she held for a few seconds since fentanyl doesn't work that way.

If she ODed some other way, that's probably on her.
Incredibly rare, not 100%.

So could some other substance have been on the bill and caused her illness?

Or is she faking it?

[ChumpDumper]

Incredibly rare, not 100%.Show me the cases where a fentanyl OD was caused by holding a dollar bill for a few minutes.

[MultiTroll]

Rebecca Donald is an assistant professor of anesthesiology and pain medicine at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. She told WSMV skin-to-skin contact is not a way people are exposed to drugs at levels that would cause them harm.


“It is much more likely for her to have a reaction if she had inadvertently rubbed her nose and exposed that drug to some of the blood vessels in her nose or licked her fingers or rubbed her eyes,” she said.

Dollar bills laced with fentanyl allegedly being found on the ground (theblackwallsttimes.com) (https://theblackwallsttimes.com/2022/07/18/dollar-bills-laced-with-fentanyl-are-being-found-on-the-ground/#:~:text=Overdose%20deaths%20from%20fentanyl%20and %20other%20opioids%20have,drug%2C%20according%20to %20recent%20reports%20in%20multiple%20states.)

[MultiTroll]

Dr. Caleb Alexander, an epidemiologist with the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, told Fox News (https://www.fox29.com/news/fentanyl-dollar-bill-story-expert-discusses-risks-second-hand-exposure)that such cases are “incredibly rare,” akin to “lightning striking.”

"Incredibly rare" but not 0% as you are asserting Chumpy.

[MultiTroll]

Show me the cases where a fentanyl OD was caused by holding a dollar bill for a few minutes.
What’s Really Going on in Those Police Fentanyl Exposure Videos? - The New York Times (nytimes.com) (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/magazine/police-fentanyl-exposure-videos.html)

Parsons wasn’t the first person to claim she suffered an extreme reaction from skin contact with fentanyl. Over the past few years, reports have surfaced of overdoses involving US law enforcement, including a case last month in which a Kansas police officer collapsed to the ground (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/magazine/police-fentanyl-exposure-videos.html) and required several doses of Narcan after coming into contact with a case of pills believed to harbor fentanyl.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Imagine the kind of brain it takes to think this is plausible

[ChumpDumper]

What’s Really Going on in Those Police Fentanyl Exposure Videos? - The New York Times (nytimes.com) (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/magazine/police-fentanyl-exposure-videos.html)

Parsons wasn’t the first person to claim she suffered an extreme reaction from skin contact with fentanyl. Over the past few years, reports have surfaced of overdoses involving US law enforcement, including a case last month in which a Kansas police officer collapsed to the ground (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/magazine/police-fentanyl-exposure-videos.html) and required several doses of Narcan after coming into contact with a case of pills believed to harbor fentanyl.

:lol the very first sentence on the page:

It’s nearly impossible for an overdose to be caused by brief contact with the drug. It is possible these videos will worsen the danger for those truly at risk.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao

Last month, a 33-year-old clinical toxicologist and emergency-medicine pharmacist named Ryan Feldman co-published a case study about the time he accidentally spilled a mammoth dose of pure liquid fentanyl all over himself at work; he simply washed it off, with no adverse effects.

[MultiTroll]

:lol the very first sentence on the page:

It’s nearly impossible for an overdose to be caused by brief contact with the drug. It is possible these videos will worsen the danger for those truly at risk.
You are responding to my teaching.
Excellent.


Dr. Caleb Alexander, an epidemiologist with the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, told Fox News (https://www.fox29.com/news/fentanyl-dollar-bill-story-expert-discusses-risks-second-hand-exposure)that such cases are “incredibly rare,” akin to “lightning striking.”

"Incredibly rare" but not 0% as you are asserting Chumpy.

[MultiTroll]

:lmao

Last month, a 33-year-old clinical toxicologist and emergency-medicine pharmacist named Ryan Feldman co-published a case study about the time he accidentally spilled a mammoth dose of pure liquid fentanyl all over himself at work; he simply washed it off, with no adverse effects.
:lol
Sounds credible.
Do you have a source, link?

[ChumpDumper]

:lol
Sounds credible.
Do you have a source, link?

Sure do!

Here ya go:

What’s Really Going on in Those Police Fentanyl Exposure Videos? - The New York Times (nytimes.com) (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/magazine/police-fentanyl-exposure-videos.html)

Enjoy reading it!

[MultiTroll]

One possibility is that they are having panic attacks. If police officers have been told that fentanyl is highly dangerous, just being in the vicinity of the substance could cause unnecessary fear and panic. Imagine that you’re told that touching a certain powder will kill you and you see that powder on your skin, it is quite normal to feel panic, too. This may be the reason why some have experienced rapid breathing, trembling, and hot flashes, instead of the slowed breathing and loss of consciousness opioid overdose victims typically experience.
Another possibility, which is the most plausible route of unintended exposure, is if someone who touched fentanyl on their hands suddenly rubs their eyes, nose, or mouth so the substance is absorbed by the mucous membranes. This is the reason why first responders and drug enforces wear gloves, safety masks, and eye gear to prevent this possibility.

Can You Really Die From Touching Fentanyl? (lighthousetreatment.com) (https://lighthousetreatment.com/can-you-really-die-from-touching-fentanyl/)

[MultiTroll]

Enjoy reading it!
Got a ways down before the NYT paywall came down.
Didn't make it to fenty bath accident account.

[ChumpDumper]

One possibility is that they are having panic attacks. If police officers have been told that fentanyl is highly dangerous, just being in the vicinity of the substance could cause unnecessary fear and panic. Imagine that you’re told that touching a certain powder will kill you and you see that powder on your skin, it is quite normal to feel panic, too. This may be the reason why some have experienced rapid breathing, trembling, and hot flashes, instead of the slowed breathing and loss of consciousness opioid overdose victims typically experience.
Another possibility, which is the most plausible route of unintended exposure, is if someone who touched fentanyl on their hands suddenly rubs their eyes, nose, or mouth so the substance is absorbed by the mucous membranes. This is the reason why first responders and drug enforces wear gloves, safety masks, and eye gear to prevent this possibility.

Can You Really Die From Touching Fentanyl? (lighthousetreatment.com) (https://lighthousetreatment.com/can-you-really-die-from-touching-fentanyl/)

Did she say she picked her nose?

All I read and heard was she held it in her hand.

The cops were panicking because of a fable started by the DEA. The mom only thought of one potential cause because that fable had been recently reinforced by local yokels.

If you think you're going to die from picking up anything, don't pick up anything. Leave the money to the brave.:tu

[MultiTroll]

Did she say she picked her nose?

All I read and heard was she held it in her hand.
Did she tell you if she picked her nose?

Went to the restroom, also put the bill in her pocket for a while.

Could she have rubbed her nose and/or while in bathroom? Possible.

“It is much more likely for her to have a reaction if she had inadvertently rubbed her nose and exposed that drug to some of the blood vessels in her nose or licked her fingers or rubbed her eyes,” she explained. -Dr. Rebecca Donald, a fentanyl expert at Vanderbilt University Medical Center

[ChumpDumper]

Did she tell you if she picked her nose?

Went to the restroom, also put the bill in her pocket for a while.

Could she have rubbed her nose and/or while in bathroom? Possible.

“It is much more likely for her to have a reaction if she had inadvertently rubbed her nose and exposed that drug to some of the blood vessels in her nose or licked her fingers or rubbed her eyes,” she explained. -Dr. Rebecca Donald, a fentanyl expert at Vanderbilt University Medical Center

So now you have to make up a story for her.

That means there's even less of a chance it was what the rubes warned her it was.:tu

[MultiTroll]

So now you have to make up a story for her.

That means there's even less of a chance it was what the rubes warned her it was.:tu
I've made up nothing.

You have offered zero as to what might have happened.
Merely parroted stuff i already enlightened and corrected you on such as the low likelyhood of fenty causing.

[ChumpDumper]

I've made up nothing. Of course you have.


You have offered zero as to what might have happened.Anything but fentanyl. Panic can cause a physical response. You have documented the panic over this perfectly:tu

[MultiTroll]

Chumpy do you have any speculation as to what happened to Renee Parsons?

[ChumpDumper]

Chumpy do you have any speculation as to what happened to Renee Parsons?

Nope. Easier to believe nothing happened than something.

Not really worth any more consideration. If there's a rash of actual dolla bill poisonings -- or even one -- you can call scoreboard.

[MultiTroll]

Nope. Easier to believe nothing happened than something.

Not really worth any more consideration. If there's a rash of actual dolla bill poisonings -- or even one -- you can call scoreboard.
Something happened. She ended up in ER etc.

Panic attack? Faking it? She's one of the super rare cases of got some fenty in her nose or eyes accidently and enough got in to phase her? (this is fenty experts saying it's a remote possibility, not ST).
Some other drug other then fenty but just as nasty?

The couple does not seem the faking type.

[ChumpDumper]

Something happened. She ended up in ER etc.

Panic attack? Faking it? She's one of the super rare cases of got some fenty in her nose or eyes accidently and enough got in to phase her? (this is fenty experts saying it's a remote possibility, not ST).
Some other drug other then fenty but just as nasty?

The couple does not seem the faking type.Why not? They jumped on Fox & Friends as soon as they could login to Zoom.

[MultiTroll]

Why not? They jumped on Fox & Friends as soon as they could login to Zoom.
So turning down a call from Faux would show more sincerity?

I guess you kind of have a point.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

*opens thread*

*sees ChumpDumper dumping on chumps*

"Aight."

*closes thread*

[MultiTroll]

Pill found on Del Taco burrito contained fentanyl, did not come from restaurant (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/pill-found-on-del-taco-burrito-contained-fentanyl-did-not-come-from-restaurant/ar-AAZNoP3?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=fb82a0270c1244eabe02eab514607a88)

The pill was seized and submitted to the Kern County Crime Lab for testing. KCSO officials said the investigation determined that the pill did not come from Del Taco and that it was not an employee and did not get placed in the food at Del Taco. Officials said how the pill got placed in the food in unknown.

KCSO said the subjects were medically cleared during the incident since the pill was found after the bite was taken. Officials said sometime after leaving the drive through and the girl getting home is when the pill was apparently placed in the burrito.

Officials said there are no suspects, but there are “people of interest.” Officials said no one related to the girl who found the pill in the burrito is a person of interest.

[MultiTroll]

More people may have overdosed from fentanyl than know it because emergency rooms rarely screen for the drug: study (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/more-people-may-have-overdosed-from-fentanyl-than-know-it-because-emergency-rooms-rarely-screen-for-the-drug-study/ar-AA11p1Hg?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=c7653c9fdf7740ff96e6c4eb3a3d9d7e)

[koriwhat]

More people may have overdosed from fentanyl than know it because emergency rooms rarely screen for the drug: study (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/more-people-may-have-overdosed-from-fentanyl-than-know-it-because-emergency-rooms-rarely-screen-for-the-drug-study/ar-AA11p1Hg?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=c7653c9fdf7740ff96e6c4eb3a3d9d7e)

Thank Robinette tbh

[ChumpDumper]

Thank Robinette tbhWhy?