Shams: Keldon Johnson Has Agreed to a 4-Yr/$80M Extension

[BatManu20]

Damn. I love it.

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[Dejounte]

Fuck yes!!!

hahaha

[lefty20]

Finally some good fucking news, tbh.

[baseline bum]

Seems like a pretty good deal for the Spurs, glad they got it done early. Especially considering he's probably gonna put up stats this year that could have raised his market value a lot. And even if his ceiling ends up being good starter that's still not bad at $18 million starting and $22.3 million or so the fourth year.

[TekXX]

overpay

[Degoat]

Congrats to Keldon! I’m happy for him, currently my fav Spur. I honestly think he could have 23 PPG this year tbh

[Robz4000]

Just in time to be traded.

[baseline bum]

overpay

Strongly disagree. $18 million starting in 2023-24 on a $133 million cap is a bargain for a guy you know is starting material and still has some room to grow beyond that.

[Cardinal]

Great contract. Glad to see this KJ locked in.

[baseline bum]

$18 million on a $133 million 2023-24 cap is barely more than the percentage of the cap McDermott made this year for example.

[JR3]

I like it!

[baseline bum]

Guess Keldon really values the security of getting the contract done right now, because I think he could have done quite a bit better next summer when he's going to be getting a lot of shots this coming year.

[Dejounte]

$18 million on a $133 million 2023-24 cap is barely more than the percentage of the cap McDermott made this year for example.

And in 2023-2024 when the extension kicks in it’s even more of a bargain. Runs all the way through to 2027. Crazy. For a 20 ppg scorer who is only 22 and will get better each year.

[baseline bum]

And in 2023-2024 when the extension kicks in it’s even more of a bargain. Runs all the way through to 2027. Crazy. For a 20 ppg scorer who is only 22 and will get better each year.

Yeah especially when a new TV deal kicks in this is going to look like an enormous bargain unless Keldon blows out his knee or something. Spurs are very fortunate to get him signed that cheaply.

[timvp]

Wow, that's a pleasant surprise. I'm surprised Keldon took that little that soon. I was expecting Klutch to push for ~$100 million. From the Spurs point of view, $80 million is a no-brainer.

[DPG21920]

Dejounte level value deal. Keldon had a ridiculously big leap and has room to grow. Need Vassell to prove himself now too (I think he will)

[Dejounte]

There goes that narrative that the players were angry at the Spurs for having no loyalty.

[Leetonidas]

Good shit

[spurraider21]

Good deal

[BatManu20]

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[SPURt]

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[BatManu20]

Got Keldon locked up for the next 5 years and he’ll be making $6M less per season than Jalen Brunson. You can’t be mad a this deal at all. He could’ve made more next Summer.

[TekXX]

There goes that narrative that the players were angry at the Spurs for having no loyalty.

Not once heard this.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Hell yeah, Team Captain! Now let's work! I want 25ppg!

[Atl Spur]

That damn Klutch! Oh, sorry I forgot we like them now ( wink wink )

[mystargtr34]

Nice. Pleasantly surprised when I saw Shams break the news on Twitter. Good deal for both sides.

[Leetonidas]

Not once heard this.

There've been a few posters. The Murray trade really broke some here :lol

[emanueldavidginobili]

I love it. Happy for him, based off his last interview yesterday at SL he seemed ready to try and lead this team. It will be a very telling season for him. I think he averages at least 22 PPG imo.

[GAustex]

Spurs need a leader
Maybe it’s Keldon

[LkrFan]

Damn. I love it.

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Spurs lining BilliGOAT p:lolckets

[ginobilized]

This is the feel good story of the summer.
Psyched that it happened. Wonder if Klutch went easy on us because of the DJ trade?

[BatManu20]

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[Dejounte]

Comparable players by age (22-23)

Jaren Jackson Jr - $26m annual
Miles Bridges - probably would have earned $30m annual if he didn’t fuck up
Ayton - $33m+ annual
Saddiq Bey - not sure what extension he’ll get but maybe over $26m annual?
Tyler Herro - same as Bey
Darius Garland - $33m+ annual
Poole - probably gets $33m+ annual, too

[mystargtr34]

Wrong thread.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/zachcolwellptr/status/1548162568669184000

Model Spur tbh

[Mr. Body]

Cool bit of business. Spurs do one Klutch client a massive favor, Klutch does it back.

[Dejounte]

This also means the starting SF spot is locked in. No more ideas of Vassell or anyone taking that spot. Vassell and other guys are competing for the SG position now.

[Chinook]

Basically exactly what I expected. Good that they didn't mess around. Klutch might've requested them not wait and either extend or trade him. But I'm glad they'll be able to have more generous timing.

Now extend Jones. Then if he's still on the team, offer one to Poeltl. I wouldn't even be against Roby, but he has way more generous timing than the others and can and should prove himself on the team first.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Spurs need a leader
Maybe it’s Keldon

a guy who shouts and1 every time he scores inside? thats not a leader man..thats a scrub and no ref is going to give him the benefit of the doubt if he keeps on shouting and1

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Spurs early way of saying thank you, now good luck in your next adventure in 2 years as we are mired in a perma-rebuild.

Congrats to Keldon though. Seems like a good dude that's busted his butt.

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We've got to peace out Dougie McBuckets for whatever you can get for him. That'd give us room for 2 max players that want to come play with Wembanyama.

[benefactor]

Solid tbh

[timtonymanu]

Nice. Makes up for how much of a bust Walmart Luka turned out to be .

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Very shrewd indeed, surprised it got done so quickly, didn't expect Keldon extension news until october.

[slick'81]

Beautiful for both sides

[exstatic]

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Assuming they cut Zollins, a complete bargain at $7.3M.

Love the signing. I actually see the Spurs as having a pretty good relationship with Klutch. They know that if you’re with the program, the Spurs won’t do you dirty.

[exstatic]

Nice. Makes up for how much of a bust Walmart Luka turned out to be .

When you swing for the HR, sometimes, you strike out. That’s gonna happen in the future, too.

[KobesAchilles]

Glad for KJ. Now can Shams report that he is no longer playing PF. Prayingdog.gif

[Ariel]

Not a steal, but fair trade for both sides. Good move. Now if we ship out McDermott in a trade were we take in an expiring, next year we'll have about the same cap space.

[99 Problems]

:lobt2:

[KingKev]

I’ve been throwing that number out for an entire year!!! Surprised this got dealt with so early however!

[RC_Drunkford]

Good deal. Should net us 2-3 draft picks once we trade him

[CGD]

Great news!

[Dejounte]

I’m going to walk back my statement…

Keldon is likely to remain at the 4.

The Spurs have rolled out line-ups with two ball handlers on the floor at the same time for the last 4+ years.

i don’t think that will change.

unless Vassell or Keldon (who is another sure starter next season) have developed their ball handling skills enough, then they will still be the 3 and 4.

what does this mean for Sochan? It means he’s the future 5.

who is the second ball handler on the team that can play at the 2? Primo.

The Spurs will probably start with…
Tre/ Primo/ Vassell/ Keldon/ Poeltl or Collins (whoever is not traded)
And end up with…
Wesley/ Primo/ Vassell/ Keldon/ Sochan

and they will probably trade or sign for another guard very soon to add ball handler depth

i am calling all of this now.

[Dejounte]

And it doesn’t mean theyre there full-time. The name of the game now is switching. Keldon, Sochan can play a position down and let Roby or someone come in and play the 5 whenever the game demands it. Versatility is king.

[KingKev]

I’m going to walk back my statement…

Keldon is likely to remain at the 4.

The Spurs have rolled out line-ups with two ball handlers on the floor at the same time for the last 4+ years.

i don’t think that will change.

unless Vassell or Keldon (who is another sure starter next season) have developed their ball handling skills enough, then they will still be the 3 and 4.

what does this mean for Sochan? It means he’s the future 5.

who is the second ball handler on the team that can play at the 2? Primo.

The Spurs will probably start with…
Tre/ Primo/ Vassell/ Keldon/ Poeltl or Collins (whoever is not traded)
And end up with…
Wesley/ Primo/ Vassell/ Keldon/ Sochan

and they will probably trade or sign for another guard very soon to add ball handler depth

i am calling all of this now.

I agree with this take. Don't like it but pretty confident as the roster stands now this is what will shake out.

25 win season with them going all out.

[Dejounte]

So all these Tre vs Primo or Wes vs Primo takes aren’t going to age well… it will turn out that this trio will play a lot of minutes TOGETHER instead of competing for that one position like everyone thought, IMO.

Hell, it’s already happening in summer league and people are choosing to ignore it.

[Dejounte]

40+ win season, tbh

[TDomination]

Good deal. Should net us 2-3 draft picks once we trade him
Haha exactly my thoughts

[BatManu20]

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[jjspur]

Mr. Hustle earned his check. Congrats to Keldon.

[FutureMan]

I’m going to walk back my statement…

Keldon is likely to remain at the 4.

The Spurs have rolled out line-ups with two ball handlers on the floor at the same time for the last 4+ years.

i don’t think that will change.

unless Vassell or Keldon (who is another sure starter next season) have developed their ball handling skills enough, then they will still be the 3 and 4.

what does this mean for Sochan? It means he’s the future 5.

who is the second ball handler on the team that can play at the 2? Primo.

The Spurs will probably start with…
Tre/ Primo/ Vassell/ Keldon/ Poeltl or Collins (whoever is not traded)
And end up with…
Wesley/ Primo/ Vassell/ Keldon/ Sochan

and they will probably trade or sign for another guard very soon to add ball handler depth

i am calling all of this now.

I’d be very happy to see: Primo, Vassell, Johnson, Sochan, & Poeltl. Gone should be the days of high draft picks not starting. Plus it gets Primo at PG, what the Spurs indicated they wanted when they drafted him, and Vassell and Johnson at their best positions IMO.

In regards to the extension I think it’s a good one. Gotta have someone to watch while we look for the next big 3. Johnson hits his 3s and has exciting dunks. Perfect choice over White, Murray, and Walker.

Not to mention character wise/culture wise he is also better than those three as well.

[toki9]

Wouldn’t this lead to the same extension contract issue down the line like Dejounte, assuming Kelvin continues to improve?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Wouldn’t this lead to the same extension contract issue down the line like Dejounte, assuming Kelvin continues to improve?

Both parties can only hope that they'll face the issue of 120% scale extension being wildly undervalued.

[Mugen]

Good for Keldon tbh.

[widowmaker]

Will be traded in the next couple of years “for the greater good of the team” Spurs are just a player farm for the contenders in this league.

[the golden era]

40+ win season, tbh
I want what your smoking

[mo7888]

I’m going to walk back my statement…

Keldon is likely to remain at the 4.

The Spurs have rolled out line-ups with two ball handlers on the floor at the same time for the last 4+ years.

i don’t think that will change.

unless Vassell or Keldon (who is another sure starter next season) have developed their ball handling skills enough, then they will still be the 3 and 4.

what does this mean for Sochan? It means he’s the future 5.

who is the second ball handler on the team that can play at the 2? Primo.

The Spurs will probably start with…
Tre/ Primo/ Vassell/ Keldon/ Poeltl or Collins (whoever is not traded)
And end up with…
Wesley/ Primo/ Vassell/ Keldon/ Sochan

and they will probably trade or sign for another guard very soon to add ball handler depth

i am calling all of this now.

Partly agree...I think you're lineup to start the year is correct but, I don't see Sochan as a starting 5 by the end of the year or maybe ever. I do think he'll log minutes there but I see him playing alongside KJ as a 3/4 tandem where they match up defensively depending on who we're playing. I think our 5 (after Poeltl is moved) will be someone who can spread the court offensively. We're going to need an outside threat at the 5 until Sochan develops his shot and I'd also like to see how KJ can use that body with the space he'll be provided with our 5 floating on the perimeter...especially when teams try and guard him with a 3.

[mo7888]

40+ win season, tbh

20-25 as constructed this year is my guess..

[Dejounte]

People don’t understand that teams with the worst records aren’t teams with the least talent (which the Spurs aren’t, but that’s another story). It’s usually reserved for teams that play with no structure, have chemistry issues, or have no discipline. The Spurs are too well-coached to end up there, IMO. Tbh the salty tears if they end up with a record better than what most expect are going to be tasty.

[Dex]

People don’t understand that teams with the worst records aren’t teams with the least talent (which the Spurs aren’t, but that’s another story). It’s usually reserved for teams that play with no structure, have chemistry issues, or have no discipline. The Spurs are too well-coached to end up there, IMO. Tbh the salty tears if they end up with a record better than what most expect are going to be tasty.

Yeah...I know this all signals "rebuild" but Pop is too proud to outright tank and will still want to focus on developing these young players and building opportunities for them. You don't develop good habits and good players by asking them to go throw games, and is pretty much the opposite of the Spurs "culture" which Pop holds so highly

I still see us landing somewhere in the 5-10 range in the draft, despite a clear talent discrepancy

[Chomag]

I'm happy with this, he's probably the best the Spurs can do Free agent wise anyway. Decent price too.

[Dejounte]

…and if you believe the teams with the worst records are teams with the least talent than that means you’re basically shitting on the same teams you idolize for “picking a direction” and have drafted such great talent like Chet, Jabari Smith. Whoops. What a dilemma between two shitty takes.

[kobyz]

I’m going to walk back my statement…

Keldon is likely to remain at the 4.

The Spurs have rolled out line-ups with two ball handlers on the floor at the same time for the last 4+ years.

i don’t think that will change.

unless Vassell or Keldon (who is another sure starter next season) have developed their ball handling skills enough, then they will still be the 3 and 4.

what does this mean for Sochan? It means he’s the future 5.

who is the second ball handler on the team that can play at the 2? Primo.

The Spurs will probably start with…
Tre/ Primo/ Vassell/ Keldon/ Poeltl or Collins (whoever is not traded)
And end up with…
Wesley/ Primo/ Vassell/ Keldon/ Sochan

and they will probably trade or sign for another guard very soon to add ball handler depth

i am calling all of this now.

With Sochan having PG skills as a four or five man, Vassell and Keldon could sit at the 2/3 positions...

[JeffDuncan]

At this early date it’s easy to see Keldon continuing at the 4.

But it’s supposed to be credible that the Spurs will end up with a 6’9” rookie at center? Really?

Hey, a team that wins 15 games is fine with me.

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When you swing for the HR, sometimes, you strike out. That’s gonna happen in the future, too.

Is that a basketball reference?

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I’d be very happy to see: Primo, Vassell, Johnson, Sochan, & Poeltl. Gone should be the days of high draft picks not starting. Plus it gets Primo at PG, what the Spurs indicated they wanted when they drafted him, and Vassell and Johnson at their best positions IMO.

In regards to the extension I think it’s a good one. Gotta have someone to watch while we look for the next big 3. Johnson hits his 3s and has exciting dunks. Perfect choice over White, Murray, and Walker.

Not to mention character wise/culture wise he is also better than those three as well.

Primo at PG and a weak bench would be one of the few things holding that team back from close to a 35-40 win season. Either we tank or we don't. Mediocrity in the time of Wembanyama is idiocy, tbh.

Gotta get rid of Poeltl, imo. He's worth 5-8 wins in that lineup. Primo playing PG and his TOs are another 5-8 games. So play him.

We need to be sub 26 wins for the best odds / % opportunity at Wembanyama.

[paperboy77]

Guess Keldon really values the security of getting the contract done right now, because I think he could have done quite a bit better next summer when he's going to be getting a lot of shots this coming year.

He knows his game is limited af. Better sign up now before his stock tanks.

[Dejounte]

With Sochan having PG skills as a four or five man, Vassell and Keldon could sit at the 2/3 positions...

I very much hope so because that would mean Sochan is a gamechanger with that ability. It’s unlikely at the moment (since that has not been on his basketball resume) until proven otherwise.

[mo7888]

…and if you believe the teams with the worst records are teams with the least talent than that means you’re basically shitting on the same teams you idolize for “picking a direction” and have drafted such great talent like Chet, Jabari Smith. Whoops. What a dilemma between two shitty takes.

Who's making the argument that the worst teams always have the least amount of talent?

[BatManu20]

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[TD 21]

Surprising timing and structure (given their timeline, I thought it'd be frontloaded/descending), but good work. This almost can't age poorly, no matter his efficiency likely taking a hit by playing an outstretched on ball role.

Give it a few years, see how he/they progress and if the progress aligns, retain him long term. If not, cash him in for more draft capital.



Who's making the argument that the worst teams always have the least amount of talent?

That and not sure why a fan would prefer to be right over their team, who lacks front line talent, getting the best possible odds at it or why opposing teams who have recently gotten said talent and are mostly headlined by 19-20 year olds are having their talent questioned.

[FutureMan]

Primo at PG and a weak bench would be one of the few things holding that team back from close to a 35-40 win season. Either we tank or we don't. Mediocrity in the time of Wembanyama is idiocy, tbh.

Gotta get rid of Poeltl, imo. He's worth 5-8 wins in that lineup. Primo playing PG and his TOs are another 5-8 games. So play him.

We need to be sub 26 wins for the best odds / % opportunity at Wembanyama.

Primo would just be part of the equation holding the team back since the 3 point shooting would be so bad. Spurs could certainly trade Poeltl. I’m not against that but it’s gotta be for a unprotected first down the road. This team isn’t terrible but I just don’t see them coming through and winning games. And no lineup with this roster is getting them 35-40 wins IMO. They had 34 wins this past season and they definitely got worse.

For the lottery you really just never know anymore. Bottom 3 teams have the same odds but the 4th worst team’s percent is only 1.5% different and then the 5th worst is 3.5% different. Wembanyama would be great but it will likely take a few years for the Spurs to get their franchise player in the draft again.

[RC_Drunkford]

Primo would just be part of the equation holding the team back since the 3 point shooting would be so bad. Spurs could certainly trade Poeltl. I’m not against that but it’s gotta be for a unprotected first down the road. This team isn’t terrible but I just don’t see them coming through and winning games. And no lineup with this roster is getting them 35-40 wins IMO. They had 34 wins this past season and they definitely got worse.

For the lottery you really just never know anymore. Bottom 3 teams have the same odds but the 4th worst team’s percent is only 1.5% different and then the 5th worst is 3.5% different. Wembanyama would be great but it will likely take a few years for the Spurs to get their franchise player in the draft again.

you obviously haven't looked at this draft class. It's not like Wembenyama is the only franchise player in that class

[FutureMan]

you obviously haven't looked at this draft class. It's not like Wembenyama is the only franchise player in that class

I have. But let’s get you on record. Besides Wembenyama name the players who will be franchise players. Not ones you believe to be but ones you apparently know will be.

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Primo would just be part of the equation holding the team back since the 3 point shooting would be so bad. Spurs could certainly trade Poeltl. I’m not against that but it’s gotta be for a unprotected first down the road. This team isn’t terrible but I just don’t see them coming through and winning games. And no lineup with this roster is getting them 35-40 wins IMO. They had 34 wins this past season and they definitely got worse.

For the lottery you really just never know anymore. Bottom 3 teams have the same odds but the 4th worst team’s percent is only 1.5% different and then the 5th worst is 3.5% different. Wembanyama would be great but it will likely take a few years for the Spurs to get their franchise player in the draft again.

Indeed, but why not shoot for the absolute best odds for a generational talent. I think our defense will be FAR better with Sochan is why I predict that. We would have switchability with him and a mean frontcourt with him and Poeltl together. Plus I think our ball movement will be better. But either way, Poeltl makes us better and reduces that opportunity for the best odds.

[gambit1990]

:tu

[FutureMan]

Indeed, but why not shoot for the absolute best odds for a generational talent. I think our defense will be FAR better with Sochan is why I predict that. We would have switchability with him and a mean frontcourt with him and Poeltl together. Plus I think our ball movement will be better. But either way, Poeltl makes us better and reduces that opportunity for the best odds.

My only concern is if we end up getting Scoot instead, who I believe would work well with Poeltl, and then Poeltl isn’t here anymore :lol

I feel like if the right rotations are used we can basically keep everyone and still lose the right amount of games. I’m hoping for Wembamyama too don’t get me wrong but also bracing for the reality that it will likely take a few years to find that right guy if we miss out on him.

[RC_Drunkford]

I have. But let’s get you on record. Besides Wembenyama name the players who will be franchise players. Not ones you believe to be but ones you apparently know will be.

That’s a stupid question. Nobody knows the future Future Man. Do you listen to Future man? Wembenyama could just suffer injuries so you can‘t even know if he‘s a sure thing. You obviously draft who you believe to be a franchise player.

GG Jackson and Scoot Henderson definitely look like that. Haven‘t done enough research on the other ones, but making the top 3 should definitely be the goal.

[FutureMan]

That’s a stupid question. Nobody knows the future Future Man. Do you listen to Future man? Wembenyama could just suffer injuries so you can‘t even know if he‘s a sure thing. You obviously draft who you believe to be a franchise player.

GG Jackson and Scoot Henderson definitely look like that. Haven‘t done enough research on the other ones, but making the top 3 should definitely be the goal.


Noted. I’m not familiar with GG Jackson but ok. You said it. GG Jackson and Scoot will definitely 100% be franchise players. Not even a chance they bust or are role players.

Also before we get too far into this debate… what is a franchise player to you? Manu? Parker? Golbert? Bam? Not knocking any of these players but obviously I’d like to get an idea of what you see as a franchise player and what you don’t see as a franchise player.

[RC_Drunkford]

Noted. I’m not familiar with GG Jackson but ok. You said it. GG Jackson and Scoot will definitely 100% be franchise players. Not even a chance they bust or are role players.

Also before we get too far into this debate… what is a franchise player to you? Manu? Parker? Golbert? Bam? Not knocking any of these players but obviously I’d like to get an idea of what you see as a franchise player and what you don’t see as a franchise player.

see I didn‘t say that. We‘re on a basketball forum, you should know what a franchise player is

[FutureMan]

see I didn‘t say that. We‘re on a basketball forum, you should know what a franchise player is

Whoops. Looks like you added that first paragraph before I got back and then replied.

I’m glad we both agree you can’t predict the future. It does look like we disagree on the likelihood on how long it will take to find a franchise player.

Let’s just hope I’m wrong and the Spurs find their guy quickly.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

awesome our centerpiece is an undersized 4 with an erratic shot and no D

....

or a plodding 3 with an erratic shot and no D

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awesome our centerpiece is an undersized 4 with an erratic shot and no D

....

or a plodding 3 with an erratic shot and no D

Only in professional sports can plodding and erratic earn a person 80M. Hell if those two words described my job performance I'd be fired.

[ismael-robert]

Yea n erratic describes one of the top performers in your field

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Nice! I hope the Spurs keep him around.

My only issue with that contract is that it’s far too tradeable.

[spurs10]

Guess Keldon really values the security of getting the contract done right now, because I think he could have done quite a bit better next summer when he's going to be getting a lot of shots this coming year. 'Bird in the hand'...I reckon.

[BatManu20]

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[John B]

'Bird in the hand'...I reckon.

Better for the Spurs and not have Keldon come in and play for the his new contract, and not necessarily within team play.

Now everybody can play within the system. Yet I expect Keldon to play as leader, less mistakes, putting the team on his shoulders at times, and watch what he says and post out there.

[bluebellmaniac]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXz_DtbVUAE8bgt?format=jpg&name=large

When you consider that they are getting not one, not two, but three KJ's for that price, it's a freaking steal of a price to pay.

[KingKev]

When you consider that they are getting not one, not two, but three KJ's for that price, it's a freaking steal of a price to pay.

hahaha none of which should be playing the 4.

[tonight...you]

When you consider that they are getting not one, not two, but three KJ's for that price, it's a freaking steal of a price to pay.
Okay, I laughed.
That was good.

[scott]

When you consider that they are getting not one, not two, but three KJ's for that price, it's a freaking steal of a price to pay.

Maybe the extra large one is better suited for the PF position

[mo7888]

Being told Keldon Johnson’s extension with San Antonio is for 4 years, $74 million, with $1.5 million of bonuses for each season to reach that possible $80 million total. Johnson’s salary also declines in value: $20M for Y1, then $19M for Y2, $17.5M for Y3 and $17.5M for Y4.

Jake Fischer

[Leetonidas]

Being told Keldon Johnson’s extension with San Antonio is for 4 years, $74 million, with $1.5 million of bonuses for each season to reach that possible $80 million total. Johnson’s salary also declines in value: $20M for Y1, then $19M for Y2, $17.5M for Y3 and $17.5M for Y4.

Jake Fischer

Damn, solid deal :tu

[Seventyniner]

Intersting that he agreed to a declining contract.

[scott]

Are there limits to how much a contract can decline per yr? Surprised the Spurs didn’t frontload it more tbh

[tonight...you]

Being told Keldon Johnson’s extension with San Antonio is for 4 years, $74 million, with $1.5 million of bonuses for each season to reach that possible $80 million total. Johnson’s salary also declines in value: $20M for Y1, then $19M for Y2, $17.5M for Y3 and $17.5M for Y4.

Jake Fischer
Not that I would necessarily want it to happen, but that contract makes him even more tradeable now.

[Atl Spur]

Keldon at the two maybe? I like Sochan at the three…..

[John B]

Being told Keldon Johnson’s extension with San Antonio is for 4 years, $74 million, with $1.5 million of bonuses for each season to reach that possible $80 million total. Johnson’s salary also declines in value: $20M for Y1, then $19M for Y2, $17.5M for Y3 and $17.5M for Y4.

Jake Fischer

That’s Keldon believing on the Spurs that they will try to get him help soon. I’m more comfortable with Keldon vs DJ as a leader. He loves Pop genuinely (have to say Pop pulled him and got him a rare chance at Olympic gold would be up there). He doesn’t really talked like DJ, and just trained better to handle media. And again it’s something PATFO prefers, and avoids drama. He also gives 100% out there every night and sets that example to the young team. I wish Keldon well.

Now I was hoping he plays 6th man as the most ideal position for him :lol. But given the current situation, he would have to start. I’m just hoping at SF position and so he doesn’t get overmatched and project that he is not the weak link in the team.

[KingKev]

Keldon at the two maybe? I like Sochan at the three…..

Bro bro. Are you serious?

[RC_Drunkford]

That’s Keldon believing on the Spurs that they will try to get him help soon. I’m more comfortable with Keldon vs DJ as a leader. He loves Pop genuinely (have to say Pop pulled him and got him a rare chance at Olympic gold would be up there). He doesn’t really talked like DJ, and just trained better to handle media. And again it’s something PATFO prefers, and avoids drama. He also gives 100% out there every night and sets that example to the young team. I wish Keldon well.

Now I was hoping he plays 6th man as the most ideal position for him :lol. But given the current situation, he would have to start. I’m just hoping at SF position and so he doesn’t get overmatched and project that he is not the weak link in the team.

once we trade him you're gonna say the exact opposite of what you just said :lol

[Atl Spur]

Bro bro. Are you serious?

He’s slimming down but he still plays big, shooting guards shoot, and he can play serviceable d I’m thinking. No to a primo, kj, js, robie, poodle lineup?

[Atl Spur]

It works on 2k! Lol………no it really does!!

[John B]

once we trade him you're gonna say the exact opposite of what you just said :lol

Being traded is part of the business and winning. It’s how players handle it with maturity.

[KingKev]

He’s slimming down but he still plays big, shooting guards shoot, and he can play serviceable d I’m thinking. No to a primo, kj, js, robie, poodle lineup?

I think whether we like it or not KJ will be exclusively at the 4 this year and Sochan splits time between the 4 and 5.

In a perfect world I like Keldon off the bench as a 30 min a night guy backing up both the 3 and 4; matchup dependent.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

It makes sense frontloading the contract, since the Spurs cap sheet is pretty damn clean next summer. It's interesting whether there's a player option for the 4th year and whether the incentives are likely or unlikely.

[scott]

IMO the ideal role for Keldon would have been to pair him with Sochan and a guy like Bridges (prior to him being a felony abuser) - a trio of guys who can all rotate and combine at the 3 and 4 and play 30 minutes per night.

Anyway, Spurs put together a smart contract. That's good.

[KingKev]

It makes sense frontloading the contract, since the Spurs cap sheet is pretty damn clean next summer. It's interesting whether there's a player option for the 4th year and whether the incentives are likely or unlikely.

If Gay’s/DEjounte’s variable comp is any indication it’s probably oretty unlikely.

Great deal for both sides regardless but I also think it shows a true market value for Keldon who pribably isn’t seen around the keague as more than a solid, young role player.

[Chinook]

Intersting that he agreed to a declining contract.

It's not that surprising. He gets more money earlier and he has more ammo to complain about being underpaid later on. If the Spurs still have cap space in three years (and still have Keldon), then he put himself into a decent position for a renegotiation.

[offset formation]

Being told Keldon Johnson’s extension with San Antonio is for 4 years, $74 million, with $1.5 million of bonuses for each season to reach that possible $80 million total. Johnson’s salary also declines in value: $20M for Y1, then $19M for Y2, $17.5M for Y3 and $17.5M for Y4.

Jake Fischer

Seems suspect unless they're banking on yet another more financially solid extension? I mean who takes less and less as they get closer and closer to.their prime?

[scott]

Seems suspect unless they're banking on yet another more financially solid extension? I mean who takes less and less as they get closer and closer to.their prime?

Have seen a lot of contracts this offseason with similar formats. Makes sense if you have the cap space ahead of the new CBA. But front-loading is also better for the player, if you assume that the total number is fixed. A dollar today is generally worth more than a dollar 4 years from now. The best deal for a player in theory would be to have all the salary up front on day 1. However, in practicality a lot of these guys probably aren't the most fiscally responsible and this would likely lead to a lot of broke basketball players.

[mo7888]

Seems suspect unless they're banking on yet another more financially solid extension? I mean who takes less and less as they get closer and closer to.their prime?

It's about the average. Don't look at it as declining...look at it as he's getting some pf his year 3 and 4 money a couple years early...it helps the Spurs cap in future years and helps Keldon by getting it sooner..

[tonight...you]

Honestly it's a real boon to get more money up front.
It's kind of why NFL players always agree to a restructure because they get a ton of money up front.
The sooner you can get those insane amounts of dollars into investments and compound interest accounts the better.
That's money making money.

[BatManu20]

Just met Keldon at the San Antonio airport a second ago. Nice guy.

[CGD]

Being told Keldon Johnson’s extension with San Antonio is for 4 years, $74 million, with $1.5 million of bonuses for each season to reach that possible $80 million total. Johnson’s salary also declines in value: $20M for Y1, then $19M for Y2, $17.5M for Y3 and $17.5M for Y4.

Jake Fischer

That’s how Spotrac has it too, FWIW

[spurraider21]

Just met Keldon at the San Antonio airport a second ago. Nice guy.
did he give your kid an autograph?

[BackHome]

It’s going to be fun watching Keldon and Sochan energy on and off the court these two players definitely have the biggest heart in the team definitely No quit in either one of them

[Dverde]

This contract is looking better every day…
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1576700369349922816?s=20

[Ariel]

This contract is looking better every day…
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1576700369349922816?s=20
Definitely. With RJ Barrett getting 120M and Herro getting 130M, it was definitely a good thing the FO sped up Keldon's extension... 80M sounds really cheap in comparison. I bet he's already giving his agent an earful...

[exstatic]

Definitely. With RJ Barrett getting 120M and Herro getting 130M, it was definitely a good thing the FO sped up Keldon's extension... 80M sounds really cheap in comparison. I bet he's already giving his agent an earful...

NY was fucking stupid to give him that money, but I guess they felt the pressure of the streak they had in never having a home drafted FRP signed to a second contract. His advanced stats are pitiful, like Lonnie Walker bad. They should have moved him before everyone figures out that he’s a low IQ, low effiency checker. What an absolute waste of a #3 overall pick.

[timvp]

This be lookin' like the best contract of all-time :lol

[CGD]

Im looking at my agent side ways if I’m Keldon.

[Atl Spur]

This be lookin' like the best contract of all-time :lol

Facts

[RC_Drunkford]

Bruh and his salary is decreasing. 18 million in years 3 and 4 :lol

[offset formation]

This be lookin' like the best contract of all-time :lol

Declining numbers too instead of ascending. Theyll have to renegotiate this at some poi t one would think if he starts making all star teams.

[MI21]

This be lookin' like the best contract of all-time :lol

:lol

I really don't understand how Deandre Hunter got paid significantly more than Keldon considering career to date, potential outcomes and age.

[The Truth #6]

On the flipside, with Primo banished, there is no competition for face of the franchise. I’m sure he likes that part.

[Seventyniner]

The Spurs are gonna get quite a haul when they trade him in two years.