The Arsenal FC thread : reborn?

[lefty]

Yes it might end up being another LOL Arsenal thread, but during the 2nd half of last season they started showing positive thigs, even when they lost games (the home loss vs Man City was a good example of that)

They signed Jesus and Zinchenko; Jesus has been impressive, sure it's preseason, but scoring braces and hat tricks vs Chelsea and Sevilla is not a bad performance at all; he also makes plays for others and his movements off the ball are fantastic.

Zinchenko is a instant upgrade at the LB spot an he should benefit from more paying time; he can also play MF.

And Arteta knows them very well from his Man City days.

Martinelli is a talented player who improves every year; same with Oodegard (who was just named Captain by the way)

Negatives : Their defense is still a question mark and Xhaka is a walking red card, and they'll need Jesus to stay healthy.

But so far the Gunners aren't looking so bad; can they compete for top 4? probably not, but nobody picked Leicester to win a title in 2016 either.

City, Liverpool and Chelsea should finish ahead of them, as well a Tottenham if Conte doesn't lose his locker room - he literally killed his players in pre-season training :lol

Man United? Too early to tell, their offense in pre-season under their new manager Ten Haag looked really good, but United has been really cursed since Sir Alex left (and it's just the pre-season)

resistanze (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=5117) NASpurs (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=386) tbh

[resistanze]

Yes it might end up being another LOL Arsenal thread, but during the 2nd half of last season they started showing positive thigs, even when they lost games (the home loss vs Man City was a good example of that)

They signed Jesus and Zinchenko; Jesus has been impressive, sure it's preseason, but scoring braces and hat tricks vs Chelsea and Sevilla is not a bad performance at all; he also makes plays for others and his movements off the ball are fantastic.

Zinchenko is a instant upgrade at the LB spot an he should benefit from more paying time; he can also play MF.

And Arteta knows them very well from his Man City days.

Martinelli is a talented player who improves every year; same with Oodegard (who was just named Captain by the way)

Negatives : Their defense is still a question mark and Xhaka is a walking red card, and they'll need Jesus to stay healthy.

But so far the Gunners aren't looking so bad; can they compete for top 4? probably not, but nobody picked Leicester to win a title in 2016 either.

City, Liverpool and Chelsea should finish ahead of them, as well a Tottenham if Conte doesn't lose his locker room - he literally killed his players in pre-season training :lol

Man United? Too early to tell, their offense in pre-season under their new manager Ten Haag looked really good, but United has been really cursed since Sir Alex left (and it's just the pre-season)

resistanze (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=5117) NASpurs (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=386) tbh

They can definitely finish top 4, given they choked on their d!cks last season while comfortably in 4th at the end of last season :lol

Jesus was a good pickup, I personally think they can be better than Chelsea even. We'll see, they're a walking disappointment for 15+ years (and phuck Xhaka)

[lefty]

They can definitely finish top 4, given they choked on their d!cks last season while comfortably in 4th at the end of last season :lol

Jesus was a good pickup, I personally think they can be better than Chelsea even. We'll see, they're a walking disappointment for 15+ years (and phuck Xhaka)

Chelsea is currently trying to sign every player just for the sake of signing players, it seems their news ownership is lacking vision

[DAF86]

Chelsea is currently trying to sign every player just for the sake of signing players, it seems their news ownership is lacking vision

Every player except Tristiano, who throw himself at them and they still wouldn't accept. :lol

[lefty]

Every player except Tristiano, who throw himself at them and they still wouldn't accept. :lol
They wouldn't take Pessi either :lol

[DAF86]

They wouldn't take Pessi either :lol

Yeah, they would. :lol

[FrostKing]

There was an Arsenal pub I requented when I first started my footy journey. Depression. I dunno how they didn't snag Lewandowski.

From the Undefeated Season Gunners to this endless retooling.

[lefty]

There was an Arsenal pub I requented when I first started my footy journey. Depression. I dunno how they didn't snag Lewandowski.

From the Undefeated Season Gunners to this endless retooling.
Lewandowski only wanted Barcelona

[FrostKing]

Lewandowski only wanted Barcelona
I mean in the past before he joined Dortmund.

Szczęsny joined the year before so they must have seen him.

[lefty]

I mean in the past before he joined Dortmund.

Szczęsny joined the year before so they must have seen him.

ah ok

[dunkman]

Once Thierry Henry left the club for Barcelona, everything went downhill. I think now they have trouble attracting top talent.

[lefty]

Once Thierry Henry left the club for Barcelona, everything went downhill. I think now they have trouble attracting top talent.
that’s one reason

ownership had to pay for the new stadium which prevented them from signing top players

[FrostKing]

Once Thierry Henry left the club for Barcelona, everything went downhill. I think now they have trouble attracting top talent.
Recent past, I usually dislike their signings. They seem to go so young and just unproven OR 2nd tier establishment player - Aubameyang and Xhaka. I think Wenger stuck with a formula too long and its gonna take a bit to shake that ingrained mentality.

[lefty]

:D

[resistanze]

Winning against both Spuds And Liverpool has been refreshing, as well as the grind out games. I just want to see some CL ball.

[resistanze]

They can definitely finish top 4, given they choked on their d!cks last season while comfortably in 4th at the end of last season :lol

Jesus was a good pickup, I personally think they can be better than Chelsea even. We'll see, they're a walking disappointment for 15+ years (and phuck Xhaka)

Yeah just as I thought, Chelsea are some scrubs tbh. LMAO Auba

[lefty]

5 pt lead
resistanze

[resistanze]

5 pt lead
resistanze

Should be good enough head start to get top 4 tbh :lol

I've seen this around the top in 1/2 way through the season so I'm not overly excited, and thye need at least 2 buys in the January transfer window. But overall, happy they gave Arteta a chance to build (after wasting 1.5 years with Emery).

[pgardn]

Should be good enough head start to get top 4 tbh :lol

I've seen this around the top in 1/2 way through the season so I'm not overly excited, and thye need at least 2 buys in the January transfer window. But overall, happy they gave Arteta a chance to build (after wasting 1.5 years with Emery).

They have a good mixture in age and experience imo.
They will go through some rough patches.
I believe this is where the older players can help out if they are calm and not volatile transient types.
They are fun to watch.

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/YQ24qtd/gun-1358765358-szczesny1.jpg

You gotta had both. Wojtek & Robert.

[Bynumite]

Curious to see if the long WC break, messes with an Arsenal team that was very much in a groove in the Premier League.

[resistanze]

Gabriel Jesus out of world cup and possibly 3 months. They are fucked tbh. Need to spend in January.

[dunkman]

Brazil will replace him easily, the problem will be if Neymar Jr can’t play anymore in Qatar 2022. For Arsenal may be a problem, though.

[lefty]

it’s happening!

[lefty]

resistanze

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[Ed Lover]

Arrerrrsenal FC, we're by far, The greatest team, the worrrrrld has ever seeen

[resistanze]

resistanze

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Spurs were light work today tbh. I'd be mad if we lost to Conte Spurs, he's gutted the attacking edge of the team. Manure next week will be a better gauge if ArsenLOL is serious this season.

[NASpurs]

I'm waiting for the bottom to fall out but Citeh keeps losing :lol

[lefty]

I'm waiting for the bottom to fall out but Citeh keeps losing :lol

Citeh was robbed in Old Trafford tbh

Arsenal has 2 PL games with Citeh this season rho,1st leg was postponed :popcorn

[lefty]

resistanze NASpurs

Arsenal just signed Trossard, good forward who can play multiple positions

Stacked

[lefty]

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[resistanze]

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:lol watching this team has been an unexpected joy. youngest team in the league too.

[lefty]

:lol watching this team has been an unexpected joy. youngest team in the league too.
I like the project tbh

First of all , give credit to the board for not firing Arteta after so-s results last year; shit takes time and most EPL teams fire managers like it 's a bodily function

Mikel has a done a good job getting rid of extra weight and believing in youth.

Also, naming Odegard cpatain was a smart move imo

[pgardn]

resistanze (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=5117) NASpurs (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=386)

Arsenal just signed Trossard, good forward who can play multiple positions

Stacked

Sucks for Brighton.
There is now some stuff saying Troussard did not like the new manager.

[lefty]

Sucks for Brighton.
There is now some stuff saying Troussard did not like the new manager.
Wouldn't surprise me, Brighton is losing other players during this winter mercto

[Brazil]

I like the project tbh

First of all , give credit to the board for not firing Arteta after so-s results last year; shit takes time and most EPL teams fire managers like it 's a bodily function

Mikel has a done a good job getting rid of extra weight and believing in youth.

Also, naming Odegard cpatain was a smart move imo

another PSG fuck up tbh... PSG has the competence to recruit good to great coaches but does not have the patience... a pity tbh

[lefty]

Jorginho has completed medical tests and he’s set to sign the contract as new Arsenal player until June 2024 with an option until 2025 🚨⚪️🔴

[pgardn]

Arsenal is filling up with the right type of players imo.
Meanwhile players leaving MC.

Lefty

Here is where your man played correctly and finds himself in Pep's favor.
He was patient and took orders. And has some of the best fundamental skills in the sport, that helps. For a guy who is not a super athlete.

[lefty]

Arsenal is filling up with the right type of players imo.
Meanwhile players leaving MC.

Lefty

Here is where your man played correctly and finds himself in Pep's favor.
He was patient and took orders. And has some of the best fundamental skills in the sport, that helps. For a guy who is not a super athlete.
Good points

Mahrez is a resilient player, sure he can be frustrated when riding the bench or being substituted early but he he reacts well and is certainly not afraid of any challenge and responds well
Pep also likes him because he is not afraid of taking big shots, even if he misses, Pep still appreciates initiative

He had a rough start, it ws probably due to that last minute elimination from the WC, now that the WC is over he has been playing well

And yes , obeying Pep and shutting up is important lol
Pep can't handle strong personalities IMO :lol

As for Arsenal, Jorginho is a smart hire, seasoned veteran who won almost every major competition bar the WC, important in a young team that is on the verge of winning a PL title and will have 2 huge games vs City, and attributes that fit this Arsenal team

Seems to be a good locker room guy as well

Trossard can play multiple forward positions, and with the absence of Jesus his versatility will be needed down the stretch

[lefty]

Don't lose hope, Gooners!

[DAF86]

That choking ass be getting tight, tbh.

[pgardn]

Don't lose hope, Gooners!

They are alive. Very solid for a young team.
Just got to stay consistent with the effort and get better with a plan ((Artetta)) I’m looking at you.
Your players need to know they can hoof it downfield if a press comes hard and one of your players is not available for a pass.

[lefty]

Another big W on the road

There is absolutely no way they don’t clinch the title

[lefty]

Ooooof

[lefty]

Ooooof

[pgardn]

Lefty
Lefty
Lefty!

Pep

Master Class

Haaland could have easily 4 goals.
Pep absolutely annihilated the Arsenal press.
He turned it into a standing press. Arsenal had zero ways to get the ball effectively.
The score does not reflect the complete dominance of both players and coaching strategy.

That was not a 4-1 game, it was 7-0.
DISMANTLED by a strategy. Bow to Pep. He’s got Haaland utilized properly in less than a year with much more that can be added.
You really must bow to Pep immediately. He is the best.

[lefty]

Lefty
Lefty
Lefty!

Pep

Master Class

Haaland could have easily 4 goals.
Pep absolutely annihilated the Arsenal press.
He turned it into a standing press. Arsenal had zero ways to get the ball effectively.
The score does not reflect the complete dominance of both players and coaching strategy.

That was not a 4-1 game, it was 7-0.
DISMANTLED by a strategy. Bow to Pep. He’s got Haaland utilized properly in less than a year with much more that can be added.
You really must bow to Pep immediately. He is the best.
Not really a masterclass; he just didn't fuck up this time and kept it simple instead of overyhinking

And Arteta went full retard, using the same strategy all season, you don't high press an in form City team, he should have used a low block and he has the players to cointer attack

[pgardn]

Not really a masterclass; he just didn't fuck up this time and kept it simple instead of overyhinking

And Arteta went full retard, using the same strategy all season, you don't high press an in form City team, he should have used a low block and he has the players to cointer attack

disagree...

Arsenal changed the type of pressing they did and the counter was devastating. In a game as big as this one master class.
No one touches Pep now. He will go down not only as a master strategist, but a guy who can make players better. He positioned players and turned the press to a stationary mess.

I dont really like him or his personality. But... Its obvious. It does not really change with day to day performances, it comes over time.
This one game is yet another example. I will agree sometimes he tries to win games his way, but when his way works it is so damn obvious.
And his willingness to sit very good players or flat out get rid of them because he sees the game differently is also significant. But dont take it from me. I also see why people thought Messy and Penaldo as great players. Bad habit more people should have imo. Actually liking the game over players and managers.

[lefty]

disagree...

Arsenal changed the type of pressing they did and the counter was devastating. In a game as big as this one master class.
No one touches Pep now. He will go down not only as a master strategist, but a guy who can make players better. He positioned players and turned the press to a stationary mess.

I dont really like him or his personality. But... Its obvious. It does not really change with day to day performances, it comes over time.
This one game is yet another example. I will agree sometimes he tries to win games his way, but when his way works it is so damn obvious.
And his willingness to sit very good players or flat out get rid of them because he sees the game differently is also significant. But dont take it from me. I also see why people thought Messy and Penaldo as great players. Bad habit more people should have imo. Actually liking the game over players and managers.
The pressing was poory executed though

Not hating Pep, he is a great manager, but he has been very selective in the clubs he has picked
I would like to see him coach less stacked teams one day but that's not gonna happen

[pgardn]

The pressing was poory executed though

Not hating Pep, he is a great manager, but he has been very selective in the clubs he has picked
I would like to see him coach less stacked teams one day but that's not gonna happen

Because they set up in a way that left giant holes and eventually it came to them standing and waiting.
That was Pep using positional press breaking AND superior on the ball ability.
And he peppered it with long balls to Haaland to keep them off balance. It was absolutely beautiful. All Rob Holding could do against Haaland was... well... hold.
Pep mixed it up magnificently.

Did you watch the game?

The two ex Arsenal color guys were awful. They were so frustrated yet had to give it up to superiority.
Arsenal is still a very good team imo. Their goal keeper was man of the match for them. Wait till the summer. Arsenal will get good players because of their exciting style and potential.
They got it going. Next year will be interesting.

[lefty]

Because they set up in a way that left giant holes and eventually it came to them standing and waiting.
That was Pep using positional press breaking AND superior on the ball ability.
And he peppered it with long balls to Haaland to keep them off balance. It was absolutely beautiful. All Rob Holding could do against Haaland was... well... hold.
Pep mixed it up magnificently.

Did you watch the game?

The two ex Arsenal color guys were awful. They were so frustrated yet had to give it up to superiority.
Arsenal is still a very good team imo. Their goal keeper was man of the match for them. Wait till the summer. Arsenal will get good players because of their exciting style and potential.
They got it going. Next year will be interesting.
Hoding sucks major donkey ass

Haaland used him lol

[pgardn]

Hoding sucks major donkey ass

Haaland used him lol

He is far better than all the CB spurs have with the exception of Romero.
Imagine how bad that is...

[lefty]

He is far better than all the CB spurs have with the exception of Romero.
Imagine how bad that is...

lol indeed

[lefty]

:lol

[lefty]

It’s like the Gerrard slip, but in super slow motion.

[resistanze]

It’s like the Gerrard slip, but in super slow motion.

And very predictable. As soon as they lost Saliba and Tomayasu you knew they were gonna wilt (lol holding is a D2 player), literally playing the same players every week. Still, they should be satisfied with a CL spot and maybe...just maybe spend more this summer.

[lefty]

And very predictable. As soon as they lost Saliba and Tomayasu you knew they were gonna wilt (lol holding is a D2 player), literally playing the same players every week. Still, they should be satisfied with a CL spot and maybe...just maybe spend more this summer.
Still a step in the right direction
If they are willing to spend they will get reinforcements, because they have a good young core and a coach with a winning mentality

[pgardn]

If one tried to introduce soccer to a new fan through an EPL team I would use Arsenal.
They have to be one of the most fun teams to watch.
IMO if their season was reversed and they had to make up ground instead of maintaining a lead it would have helped them mentally.
They were worn out and started making very poor mistakes in the back. On attack I thought they were excellent.
Nice to see them back.