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SnakeBoy
08-08-2022, 02:48 PM
Winners

— Medicare, Obamacare enrollees

The final bill caps out-of-pocket costs for seniors’ prescription drugs at $2,000 a year and allows Medicare to negotiate the prices on 10 medications four years from now. The bill avoids a large January increase in Obamacare premiums for many middle income people by extending subsidies for three years.

— The wealthy

None of the billions of dollars in tax increases Democrats floated a year ago on high-earning Americans made it into the final version of the bill, including proposals to double the capital gains rate, increase taxes on inheritances and levy a surcharge on millionaires. Despite rhetoric from Democrats that they wanted the richest Americans to pay much more, there wasn’t consensus within the party to pass a bill that raises levies on the 1%.

— Private equity

Private equity fund managers were able to dodge a tax increase that Sen. Joe Manchin wanted, but fellow moderate Democrat Sen. Kyrsten Sinema insisted be taken out of the bill. Manchin had wanted to narrow a tax break known as carried interest, that allows fund managers to pay lower capital gains rates on their earnings. The private equity industry was able to gain an additional win shortly before the final passage of the bill when a handful of Democrats broke with their party to vote on a Republican amendment that created a carveout for private equity-owned companies in the corporate minimum tax.

— Manchin, Sinema

The entire contents of the bill were essentially cherry-picked by Manchin and then tweaked to fit Sinema’s preferences. The two moderates amassed huge leverage with their willingness to accept no bill at all — and attacks from progressives — rather than a bill with provisions they opposed. The pair were also able to score some direct benefits for their states as part of the negotiations: Manchin secured and agreement to permit the completion of the Equitrans Midstream Corp.’s Mountain Valley Pipeline, and Sinema was able to get $4 billion for drought relief in Western states.

— Electric carmakers

The deal extends a popular $7,500 per vehicle consumer tax credit for the purchase of electric vehicles, a win for EV makers like General Motors Co., Tesla Inc. and Toyota Motor Co. But to win the backing of Manchin, companies will have to comply with tough new battery and critical minerals sourcing requirements that could render the credits useless for years for many manufacturers. Not all manufacturers stand to benefit from the credit. New cars that cost more than $55,000 and $80,000 for pickups and SUVs won’t qualify for the credits.

— Renewable energy

Solar company Sunrun Inc., energy storage and software provider Stem Inc., and hydrogen and fuel cell company Plug Power Inc. stand to benefit from generous tax credits in the bill. Nuclear reactor operators such as Southern Co., Constellation Energy Corp., Public Service Enterprise Group Inc. and Energy Harbor Corp. also could see a boon from a $30 billion production tax credit for nuclear power providers.

— Oil companies

Oil and gas got a boost alongside newer energy sources. The bill, which could mandate more federal oil and gas lease sales and boosts an existing tax credit for carbon capture, won praise from companies such as Exxon Mobil Corp. and Occidental Petroleum Corp. The legislation creates a new 10-year product tax credit for hydrogen production that rises to as much as $3 per kilogram depending on carbon intensity.

— Deficit hawks

Manchin negotiated $300 billion in deficit reduction into the bill, the first major effort by Congress in 11 years to reduce the difference between how much the country spends versus how much tax revenue it takes in. The deficit cuts are minor compared to the $24 trillion national debt but hawks say it’s a start.

— The IRS

The Internal Revenue Service will get an influx of $80 billion over the next decade to expand its audit capability and upgrade technology systems after years of being underfunded.

Losers

— Pharmaceutical companies

The bill allows Medicare for the first time to negotiate with pharmaceutical companies on drug prices, a change that Congress has been discussing for decades with limited success, in part because of the drug lobby’s power. The pharmaceutical industry was able to score a partial victory after the Senate parliamentarian blocked a portion of the bill that would have capped price increases for drugs in the commercial market. Drug-makers will likely offset some of their reduced revenue from Medicare negotiations with higher prices for patients with private insurance.

— Tech companies

Technology companies are set to bear the brunt of the two major tax increases in the proposal — a 15% minimum tax on financial statement profits and a new levy on stock buybacks. Corporations like Alphabet Inc.’s Google and Meta Inc.’s Facebook have both been able to deftly use the tax code to cut down on the taxes they owe, while still being profitable. The minimum tax is designed to increase levies on companies that report large profits to shareholders, but can claim many deductions and credits to cut their IRS bills.

— The SALT caucus

The legislation does not include an expansion of the $10,000 cap on the state and local tax deduction, or SALT. The omission is a blow to residents of high-tax states in the Northeast and West Coast, and Reps. Josh Gottheimer of New Jersey and Tom Suozzi of New York, who led the effort to increase the size of the write-off.

— Bernie Sanders

The $437 billion in spending is a far cry from the $6 trillion that progressives, led by Sen. Bernie Sanders, envisioned at the start of Biden’s presidency. The bill excludes all proposals for new social programs, including child care, tuition-free college, housing spending and an expanded-child monthly child tax credit.

Thread
08-08-2022, 02:51 PM
Tax & spend after Biden swore he wouldn't raise taxes---like he swore he'd "shut it down."

ElNono
08-08-2022, 03:00 PM
Why did you skip Republicans in the losers column?

https://fortune.com/2022/08/08/winners-losers-democrats-climate-change-tax-bill-macnhin-biden-sinema/

Joe broke you.

SnakeBoy
08-08-2022, 03:21 PM
Why did you skip Republicans in the losers column?

https://fortune.com/2022/08/08/winners-losers-democrats-climate-change-tax-bill-macnhin-biden-sinema/

Joe broke you.

I wanted to give you something to find on your fact finding mission.

El RandomNoNo :lol

Trump broke you

ElNono
08-08-2022, 03:26 PM
There it is... "I wAs JeSt TrOlLiNg"... :lmao

Damn, Old Joe did a number on this guy...

Spurminator
08-08-2022, 04:00 PM
I wanted to give you something to find on your fact finding mission.

El RandomNoNo :lol

Trump broke you

You see, I found an article and came up with a clever scheme to remove certain sections of said article whilst sharing it on my favorite internet website, in order to trick you into clicking the article and noticing such omit'd sections, hence making YOU the pathetic and broken loser. Ha!

baseline bum
08-08-2022, 04:45 PM
People with the beetus should be in the losers category too since the amendment to impose a $35 cap on monthly co-pays for insulin lost 57-43 thanks to the 43 republican senators willing to kill off their base to own the libs.

Thread
08-08-2022, 04:59 PM
Tax & spend after Biden swore he wouldn't raise taxes---like he swore he'd "shut it down."

DMC
08-08-2022, 05:08 PM
You see, I found an article and came up with a clever scheme to remove certain sections of said article whilst sharing it on my favorite internet website, in order to trick you into clicking the article and noticing such omit'd sections, hence making YOU the pathetic and broken loser. Ha!

:lol no you didn't

Winehole23
08-08-2022, 05:14 PM
^^^went right over derp's head

DMC
08-08-2022, 05:18 PM
^^^went right over derp's head

Went right over your head :lol

gotheem

Winehole23
08-08-2022, 05:24 PM
Went right over your head :lol

gotheemYou twitting other posters for ventriloquism/mind reading is pretty rich. Spurminator pretty much nailed it and your comeback was schoolmarmishness posing as a joke, but without any hilarity in the punchline.

DMC
08-08-2022, 05:31 PM
You twitting other posters for ventriloquism/mind reading is pretty rich. Spurminator pretty much nailed it and your comeback was schoolmarmishness posing as a joke, but without any hilarity in the punchline.

But it got you :lol

Winehole23
08-08-2022, 05:31 PM
But you can always cover the crankiness with an emoji, right?

DMC
08-08-2022, 05:41 PM
But you can always cover the crankiness with an emoji, right?

I got you. Accept it and move on.

Spurminator
08-08-2022, 06:36 PM
Went right over your head :lol

gotheem

"I cast the I-Know-You-Are-But-What-Am-I Spell on thee! Laughing out loud! It is THOU who are owned, not I!"

DMC
08-08-2022, 09:44 PM
"I cast the I-Know-You-Are-But-What-Am-I Spell on thee! Laughing out loud! It is THOU who are owned, not I!"

What movie is this from?

daboom1
08-09-2022, 01:05 AM
Went right over your head :lol

gotheem

ez gotheem :lol

Millennial_Messiah
08-09-2022, 07:00 AM
People with the beetus should be in the losers category too since the amendment to impose a $35 cap on monthly co-pays for insulin lost 57-43 thanks to the 43 republican senators willing to kill off their base to own the libs.

IMO there should be a personal fat tax for anyone with a BMI over the legal medical overweight / obesity line... no excuses. Starts at $1,000 per year and goes up even further by BMI. Once per year you must submit your BMI from a doctor's office along with your annual taxes. That's how it can get enforced.

baseline bum
08-09-2022, 08:33 AM
IMO there should be a personal fat tax for anyone with a BMI over the legal medical overweight / obesity line... no excuses. Starts at $1,000 per year and goes up even further by BMI. Once per year you must submit your BMI from a doctor's office along with your annual taxes. That's how it can get enforced.

BMI is a stupid stat. LeBron is overweight by BMI.