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SpursforSix
08-09-2022, 02:50 PM
Rainwater everywhere on Earth unsafe to drink due to ‘forever chemicals’, study findshttps://www.euronews.com/green/2022/08/04/rainwater-everywhere-on-earth-unsafe-to-drink-due-to-forever-chemicals-study-finds


On top of that, standard at home water filters don't get rid of all the PFAS.

DMC
08-09-2022, 03:10 PM
I have pretty extensive at home water filtration, in multiple stages. Really helps when I am drinking a soft drink.

Winehole23
08-09-2022, 03:11 PM
I have pretty extensive at home water filtration, in multiple stages. Really helps when I am drinking a soft drink.making your own?

DMC
08-09-2022, 03:19 PM
making your own?

Yes

SpursforSix
08-09-2022, 03:25 PM
I have pretty extensive at home water filtration, in multiple stages. Really helps when I am drinking a soft drink.

Sure. I think we're about to go with a reverse osmosis system. The problem is that most people in the world can't afford to do that, don't have access to it, or don't understand it. These costs need to be put squarely on the companies that generate the chemicals. If we even know who they all are.

SpursforSix
08-09-2022, 03:27 PM
And presumably these things have made their way into plants and animals that we eat.

Winehole23
08-09-2022, 03:31 PM
YesThat's more my wife's domain, but we do that here. Lately she's been mad about sparkling tea, and I am too.

daboom1
08-09-2022, 03:51 PM
And presumably these things have made their way into plants and animals that we eat.

Ever heard of glyphosate?

Blake
08-10-2022, 12:02 PM
Ever heard of glyphosate?

Your mom fed it to you as a kid huh

InRareForm
08-10-2022, 04:19 PM
It's time to just live In a bubble with an air filter and just eat plant food and water .

DMC
08-10-2022, 06:12 PM
It's time to just live In a bubble with an air filter and just eat plant food and water .

Maybe WH23 has a spare room.

Winehole23
08-10-2022, 07:42 PM
Maybe WH23 has a spare room.we do, but they're prepositioned for grandchildren, gross storage and amplified sound.

you got a refugee?

Winehole23
06-26-2023, 08:18 AM
Rainwater everywhere on Earth unsafe to drink due to ‘forever chemicals’, study finds

https://www.euronews.com/green/2022/08/04/rainwater-everywhere-on-earth-unsafe-to-drink-due-to-forever-chemicals-study-finds


On top of that, standard at home water filters don't get rid of all the PFAS.3M is trying to settle, be held harmless and shirk cleanup costs.


Facing lawsuits over PFAS contamination, the industrial giant 3M, which has made PFAS for many uses for decades, announced a US$10.3 billion settlement (https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/3m-resolves-claims-by-public-water-suppliers-supports-drinking-water-solutions-for-vast-majority-of-americans-301858581.html) with public water suppliers on June 22, 2023, to help pay for testing and treatment. The company admits no liability in the settlement, which requires court approval. Cleanup could cost many times that amount (https://news.bloomberglaw.com/environment-and-energy/3m-heads-to-trial-in-existential-143-billion-pfas-litigation).https://theconversation.com/3m-offers-10-3b-settlement-over-pfas-contamination-in-water-systems-now-how-do-you-destroy-a-forever-chemical-208362

Winehole23
06-26-2023, 08:21 AM
Once these chemicals get into the groundwater, not much can be done. This is a map of contamination in St. Paul, MN.

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There are currently about 3,000 product liability lawsuits over toxic PFAS effects pending nationwide, each involving similar allegations that the companies failed to warn about the long-term health risks from exposure to the chemicals.

https://www.aboutlawsuits.com/3m-pfas-contamination-settlement/

Winehole23
06-26-2023, 08:31 AM
what's the rush?


The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has proposed establishing legally enforceable regulations (https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/biden-harris-administration-proposes-first-ever-national-standard-protect-communities) for maximum levels of six PFAS chemicals in public drinking water systems. Two of these chemicals, PFOA and PFOS, would be recognized as individual hazardous chemicals, with regulatory actions enforced when levels of either exceed 4 parts per trillion, which is substantially lower than previous guidance.

Winehole23
11-27-2023, 09:21 AM
In the wake of landmark settlements requiring chemical giants 3M and DuPont to pay billions to US water systems for alleged toxic chemical contamination, litigation over personal injuries from PFAS exposure is starting to move forward.

The first round of personal injury cases to go to trial will involve people who developed one of four diseases after drinking water contaminated with per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS) from firefighting foam used at airports or military sites in Colorado and Pennsylvania, which seeped into nearby communities’ drinking water, according to lawyers for plaintiffs


A separate round of litigation will focus on people exposed through occupational exposure to PFAS, a group that mostly includes firefighters who have been exposed to the chemicals through their firefighting gear and in aqueous film-forming foam (AFFF), which has been used for decades to help quench fires.https://www.thenewlede.org/2023/11/after-historic-drinking-water-settlements-pfas-personal-injury-lawsuits-loom/

Winehole23
10-19-2024, 09:23 AM
profits over people

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https://x.com/jbadomics/status/1847634281377489345

Winehole23
01-17-2025, 01:13 PM
"drain your blood until it's clean"


Residents of Jersey (https://www.theguardian.com/uk/jersey) have been recommended bloodletting to reduce high concentrations of “forever chemicals” in their blood after tests showed some islanders have levels that can lead to health problems.

Private drinking water supplies in Jersey were polluted by the use of firefighting foams containing PFAS (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/pfas) (per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances) at the island’s airport, which were manufactured by the US multinational 3M.

PFAS, a family of more than 10,000 chemicals (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/feb/23/what-are-pfas-forever-chemicals-how-toxic-are-they-and-how-do-you-become-exposed), can build up in the body and are linked to conditions such as kidney and bladder cancer, thyroid disease and immune deficiency.
Bloodletting draws blood from a vein in measured amounts. It is safe and the body replenishes the blood naturally, but it must be repeated until clean.

“I just want this out of my body. I don’t want to end up with bladder cancer,” said Sarah Simon, one of 88 residents of the polluted area in whose blood tests found high levels of PFAS.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jan/16/bloodletting-recommended-for-jersey-residents-after-pfas-contamination

Winehole23
01-17-2025, 01:17 PM
watch out for the food too


Harmful chemicals in sewage sludge that is spread on pasture (https://apnews.com/article/us-news-ap-top-news-waste-treatment-mi-state-wire-health-32c65a5b3c27468ea2cdd2ce97848825) land as fertilizer are causing cancer, the Environmental Protection Agency said Tuesday. The risk is highest for people who regularly consume milk, beef and other products from farms where it is spread. The risk is “several orders of magnitude” above what it considers acceptable, the agency said.

When cities and towns treat sewage, they separate the liquids from the solids and treat the liquid. The solids need to be disposed of and can make a nutrient-rich sludge often spread on farm fields. The agency now says those solids often contain toxic, lasting PFAS that treatment plants cannot effectively remove.



The federal government does have the power to regulate harmful substances in sewage sludge. Years ago, it set limits on some metals. But it does not regulate PFAS, or perfluoroalkyl and polyfluoroalkyl substances.https://apnews.com/article/sewage-sludge-pasture-farms-milk-beef-harmful-cancer-epa-42e084b6a41852fdafd199d355c7a890