Biden to cancel 330 billion of student debt by executive order.

[CosmicCowboy]

Even though it's not legal.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/23/biden-student-loan-forgiveness-repayment-pause-00053299

[ChumpDumper]

Guaranteed to make no one happy, but it would be nice to not hear about this for awhile.

[InRareForm]

Why not cancel credit card debt too. Both dumb decisions

[ducks]

I was told yesterday if we got rid of the federal tax and went with a 5 percent sales tax on everything in 5 years the USA will be out of debt

[ducks]

Even though it's not legal.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/23/biden-student-loan-forgiveness-repayment-pause-00053299
Does not matter if it is legal blue is doing it red can not do anything illegal

[baseline bum]

Does not matter if it is legal blue is doing it red can not do anything illegal

Like that time you guys tried to overthrow the government?

[ducks]

Like that time you guys tried to overthrow the government?

Like blue team does in Portland all the time

[ChumpDumper]

I was told yesterday:lmao

[Spurs Homer]

So what?

people still dont understand we rich as fuck and we have never spent any of it on regular people…

we were even richer as fuck before the super rich got most of it in tax breaks, corporate welfare, tax cheating,

all which came from lobbyists and the GOP working for the super rich

now SOME of the loot goes to regular taxpayers and everyone clutches their pearlz!

worse yet- almost everyone here is NOT on the uber rich team - maybe cosmic kunt unless he is exaggerating

so chill the fuck out and let the usa spend a fraction on real people for once

[CosmicCowboy]

So what?

people still dont understand we rich as fuck and we have never spent any of it on regular people…

we were even richer as fuck before the super rich got most of it in tax breaks, corporate welfare, tax cheating,

all which came from lobbyists and the GOP working for the super rich

now SOME of the loot goes to regular taxpayers and everyone clutches their pearlz!

worse yet- almost everyone here is NOT on the uber rich team - maybe cosmic kunt unless he is exaggerating

so chill the fuck out and let the usa spend a fraction on real people for once

so how much do you owe?

[Spurs Homer]

so how much do you owe?

im debt free

and i do not clutch my pearls 24/7 over what OTHER people might get
i dont clutch my pearls

for;

immigrants arriving to make a better life for themselves and our country which badly needs their cheap labor…
women who want to make their own decisions…
children being taught our true white supremacist history…



among other fear- mongering propaganda

[CosmicCowboy]

Lawmakers, including Nancy Pelosi, have argued that Biden’s executive order, is unconstitutional and goes outside the rights of the executive branch.

Congress, not the president, is the only body that can cancel student debt, Pelosi said in July of 2021, arguing that “the president can’t do it.”

“Not everybody realizes that, but the president can only postpone, delay but not forgive” student loans, she added.

The Department of Education came to the same decision, arguing that the executive branch “does not have the statutory authority to cancel, compromise, discharge, or forgive, on a blanket or mass basis, principal balances of student loans, and/or to materially modify the repayment amounts or terms thereof.”

[Spurs Homer]

Lawmakers, including Nancy Pelosi, have argued that Biden’s executive order, is unconstitutional and goes outside the rights of the executive branch.

Congress, not the president, is the only body that can cancel student debt, Pelosi said in July of 2021, arguing that “the president can’t do it.”

“Not everybody realizes that, but the president can only postpone, delay but not forgive” student loans, she added.

The Department of Education came to the same decision, arguing that the executive branch “does not have the statutory authority to cancel, compromise, discharge, or forgive, on a blanket or mass basis, principal balances of student loans, and/or to materially modify the repayment amounts or terms thereof.”


yay! Yippee! Lord lord!

wgaf?

will this make your life complete?

[ChumpDumper]

Lawmakers, including Nancy Pelosi, have argued that Biden’s executive order, is unconstitutional and goes outside the rights of the executive branch.

Congress, not the president, is the only body that can cancel student debt, Pelosi said in July of 2021, arguing that “the president can’t do it.”

“Not everybody realizes that, but the president can only postpone, delay but not forgive” student loans, she added.

The Department of Education came to the same decision, arguing that the executive branch “does not have the statutory authority to cancel, compromise, discharge, or forgive, on a blanket or mass basis, principal balances of student loans, and/or to materially modify the repayment amounts or terms thereof.”Someone is free to take it to court, I guess.

[ducks]

Democracts wants red team to take to court so they can say red team bad taking money we want to give you

[ducks]

:lmao

No one ever tells you anything when you are with them. You do all the talking

[ChumpDumper]

No one ever tells you anything when you are with them. You do all the talkingI'm quite a good listener tbh. I rarely repeat the stupider things I am told.

[Winehole23]

50 years of state disinvestment in education has raised costs beyond the ability of of borrowers to repay and put two generations of the middle-class on a debt treadmill.

This is a small step in the right direction.

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[Trill Clinton]

Thank you, Biden!

[CosmicCowboy]

yay! Yippee! Lord lord!

wgaf?

will this make your life complete?

It's called discussing current events, Moron.

[CosmicCowboy]

[COLOR=#000000][FONT=&]50 years of state disinvestment in education has raised costs beyond the ability of of borrowers to repay and put two generations of the middle-class on a debt treadmill.

This is a small step in the right direction.

That can happen when you major in English.

[Winehole23]

I tHoT u wAnTeD tO dIscUsS cUrrEnT eVenTs, mY bAd.

[spurraider21]

Why not cancel credit card debt too. Both dumb decisions
its not uncommon for the state to subsidize what it believes are "good decisions" that they want to incentivize. ie giving tax benefits to married couples. they think people getting married is a good things (helps financial stability, lowers chances of people being in abject poverty and thus less dependent on state on long run, less likely to commit crime, etc). they see getting a college education as being a general positive and accomplishing those same ends

[spurraider21]

50 years of state disinvestment in education has raised costs beyond the ability of of borrowers to repay and put two generations of the middle-class on a debt treadmill.

This is a small step in the right direction.

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the big sleeper is also the lack of accrual of interest as long as timely payments are being made

[ChumpDumper]

50 years of state disinvestment in education has raised costs beyond the ability of of borrowers to repay and put two generations of the middle-class on a debt treadmill.

This is a small step in the right direction.

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That's the kind of thing Biden should've promised in the first place; not the perceived privilege giveaway.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fa8UtLVX0AAHnzC?format=jpg&name=largehttps://prospect.org/education/joe-biden-s-student-debt-forgiveness-is-a-good-start/

[Leetonidas]

I was told yesterday if we got rid of the federal tax and went with a 5 percent sales tax on everything in 5 years the USA will be out of debt

You believe a lot of dumb stuff people tell you

[spurraider21]

:lol

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[Winehole23]

$700B in PPP loans has been forgiven by Biden as well, zero forum conservatives complaining about that so far. I guess scruples about personal responsibility and free shit kind of evaporate when the free shit recipient is a business owner.

The average loan was ~$109,000.

[SpursforSix]

$700B in PPP loans has been forgiven by Biden as well, zero forum conservatives complaining about that so far. I guess scruples about personal responsibility and free shit kind of evaporate when the free shit recipient is a business owner.

The average loan was ~$109,000.

That whole thing seems to be a debacle. I don't know if they've put numbers on it yet but there were a ton of scams. There was some rapper who just got busted because he rapped about it. He had filled out several forms under different names and took about $400,000 or so. Has to have been a ton of others that did the same. Not to mention businesses that took the free money and didn't need it. I personally know several that took advantage of that without the need.

[Trill Clinton]

That whole thing seems to be a debacle. I don't know if they've put numbers on it yet but there were a ton of scams. There was some rapper who just got busted because he rapped about it. He had filled out several forms under different names and took about $400,000 or so. Has to have been a ton of others that did the same. Not to mention businesses that took the free money and didn't need it. I personally know several that took advantage of that without the need.


https://i.redd.it/ncty694w7fi91.jpg

[ElNono]

Even though it's not legal.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/23/biden-student-loan-forgiveness-repayment-pause-00053299

We'll see. Let's see the GOP run against this.

[SpursforSix]

https://i.redd.it/ncty694w7fi91.jpg

Such bullshit. It goes to show what pieces of crap these people are to apply for this. And the other problem is, these people have the means to have had the forms filled out quickly and got at the head of the line. I was tasked with filling out the forms for someone who didn't need it and I can tell you, they were complicated and required documentation that a lot of small businesses just don't have at hand.

[Monostradamus]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fa5Ei2UWIAAOkQS?format=jpg&name=large

[Monostradamus]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fa5Ei2UWIAAOkQS?format=jpg&name=large
btw it’s hilarious to randomly see this guy in Dallas with no cameras around, because he is the biggest fake tough internet sissy this side of koriwhat. He literally cowers as he walks around worried that someone is going to punch him :lol

[daboom1]

"And now, folks, it's time for "Who do you trust!" Hubba, hubba, hubba! Money, money, money! Who do you trust? Me? I'm giving away free money!"

[spurraider21]

"And now, folks, it's time for "Who do you trust!" Hubba, hubba, hubba! Money, money, money! Who do you trust? Me? I'm giving away free money!"
is this about people who constantly run on tax cuts?

[sickdsm]

Cancelling debt before stopping the problem of crazy tuitions is very similar to the idea of letting all minor drug offenders out of jail but not legalizing what got them there.

Can't wait for everyone to peruse the names and amounts of loan forgiveness published.

[koriwhat]

They ain't canceling shit except accountability and pushing the costs on us regular citizens to pay for all you stupid fucking leftists who got worthless degrees.

[ElNono]

"And now, folks, it's time for "Who do you trust!" Hubba, hubba, hubba! Money, money, money! Who do you trust? Me? I'm giving away free money!"

^^^ lol big fonts

[ChumpDumper]

"And now, folks, it's time for "Who do you trust!" Hubba, hubba, hubba! Money, money, money! Who do you trust? Me? I'm giving away free money!"

https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/treasury-checks-flt-ht-ps-200420_hpMain_16x9t_992.jpg

[SpursforSix]

They ain't canceling shit except accountability and pushing the costs on us regular citizens to pay for all you stupid fucking leftists who got worthless degrees.

The whole system is antiquated. Sure it's beneficial at times to be in a class in front of a good professor. And some degrees require the labwork and physical interaction. But everything in the world is on the internet. For many degrees, you can learn the same stuff for free. You just can't get the piece of paper.

[Spurminator]

https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/treasury-checks-flt-ht-ps-200420_hpMain_16x9t_992.jpg

Lol my first thought too.

Lonely Qhris' hero wanted his name put on stimulus checks. These people just can't stop owning themselves.

[spurraider21]

The whole system is antiquated. Sure it's beneficial at times to be in a class in front of a good professor. And some degrees require the labwork and physical interaction. But everything in the world is on the internet. For many degrees, you can learn the same stuff for free. You just can't get the piece of paper.
i mean you could self study anything including medicine. but i wouldnt trust somebody who told me that they read a lot of medical journals online vs somebody who attended an accredited medical school and has received some form of certification for doing so.

[Winehole23]

That whole thing seems to be a debacle. I don't know if they've put numbers on it yet but there were a ton of scams. There was some rapper who just got busted because he rapped about it. He had filled out several forms under different names and took about $400,000 or so. Has to have been a ton of others that did the same. Not to mention businesses that took the free money and didn't need it. I personally know several that took advantage of that without the need.so long as the money got spent on keeping businesses open and payrolls paid, fine. given how badly off economically we were in 2020, neither the graft nor the size of it bother me as much as it would otherwise -- it might even have been beneficial in the aggregate.

wonder how many J6 rioters paid for the trip with PPP funds?


Many who participated in what prosecutors are calling the largest fraud (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/new-covid-fraud-prosecutor-steps-effort-convict-people-stole-billions-rcna19536) in U.S. history — the theft of hundreds of billions of dollars in taxpayer money intended to help those harmed by the coronavirus pandemic — couldn’t resist purchasing luxury automobiles. Also mansions, private jet flights and swanky vacations.


They came into their riches by participating in what experts say is the theft of as much as $80 billion — or about 10 percent — of the $800 billion handed out in a Covid relief plan known as the Paycheck Protection Program, or PPP. That’s on top of the $90 billion to $400 billion believed to have been stolen from the $900 billion Covid unemployment relief program — at least half taken by international fraudsters — as NBC News reported (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/easy-money-how-international-scam-artists-pulled-epic-theft-covid-n1276789) last year. And another $80 billion (https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Watchdogs-SBA-handed-out-over-80-billion-in-16053899.php) potentially pilfered from a separate Covid disaster relief program.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1279664

[daboom1]

Trump ding means you touched a nerve :lol

(ez gotheem)

[CosmicCowboy]

Plus, a 4 year degree plan is basically a waste the first two years because of all the unnecessary "required" crap you have to take before getting into the meat of your degree plan.

[Proxy]

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[hater]

Cancelling debt before stopping the problem of crazy tuitions is very similar to the idea of letting all minor drug offenders out of jail but not legalizing what got them there.

Can't wait for everyone to peruse the names and amounts of loan forgiveness published.

Biden voter here. My question is is this a 1 point in time band aid? Or Im missing something?

I mean are the people who paid their loans off yesterday and people who will get a new student loan tomorrow shit outof luck????

[ChumpDumper]

You're missing something.

[SpursforSix]

i mean you could self study anything including medicine. but i wouldnt trust somebody who told me that they read a lot of medical journals online vs somebody who attended an accredited medical school and has received some form of certification for doing so.

Sure. And medicine was one that specifically came to mind when I mentioned the hands on necessity.

[SpursforSix]

Plus, a 4 year degree plan is basically a waste the first two years because of all the unnecessary "required" crap you have to take before getting into the meat of your degree plan.

I kind of agree but I do think it is important to stretch one's mind. Although now, you can learn almost any of those first two years on the internet. Seems like there should just be some kind of proficiency test. But in the end, it's all about the dollars.
But going to a private 4 year college (unless it's pre-med or pre-law or something), those first two years are a waste. I guess there's something to be said for the college experience and meeting new people, making new friends, going to sports, etc. But is it really worth $40,000+?

[Winehole23]

Who paid off this guy's debts?

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[sickdsm]

Biden voter here. My question is is this a 1 point in time band aid? Or Im missing something?

I mean are the people who paid their loans off yesterday and people who will get a new student loan tomorrow shit outof luck????

As a parent of two middle schoolers I can confirm college is still looking expensive AF. Even if this is a permanent change a subsidy doesn't ever lower costs long term.

[SpursforSix]

so long as the money got spent on keeping businesses open and payrolls paid, fine. given how badly off economically we were in 2020, neither the graft nor the size of it bother me as much as it would otherwise -- it might even have been beneficial in the aggregate.

wonder how many J6 rioters paid for the trip with PPP funds?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1279664

That number has to be way higher than 10%. The people that I know of taking the money (that didn't need it) didn't spend it on luxuries. They just took the free money. I doubt there's any real way to document who needed the money and who didn't. My point is that some businesses that needed the money probably didn't get it because of this.

[DMC]

yay! Yippee! Lord lord!

wgaf?

will this make your life complete?

If it's even a fraction of that for a wall you shit yourself.

[DMC]

10K student loan forgiveness meant something 30 years ago. Today it might not cover books. Seems like a political move for midterms. Even 20K isn't much. I don't see anyone bitching about solar subsidies. Same basic premise. I know people who are getting 30K or more back because of the solar thing.

[boutons_deux]

Did any of you aunti loan forgiveness assholes bitch and whine and complain about the 2017 Trump tax cut scam which cost America trillions and revenue?

Or the Repug 2001 scam tax cut rammed through witg reconciliation?

$800B every fucking year for the fucking corrupt loser military and wealthy MIC investors?

[spurraider21]

10K student loan forgiveness meant something 30 years ago. Today it might not cover books. Seems like a political move for midterms. Even 20K isn't much. I don't see anyone bitching about solar subsidies. Same basic premise. I know people who are getting 30K or more back because of the solar thing.
the 10k/20k is the headliner... but the bigger deal is the lack of interest accrual on income based repayment plans and the doubling of the threshold for what is considered non-discretionary income

[Spurs Homer]

If it's even a fraction of that for a wall you shit yourself.


a wall is another white supremacist propaganda tactic to divide people and promote their hate agenda

yes i am on the opposite side of nazis like you

[DMC]

yay! Yippee! Lord lord!

wgaf?

will this make your life complete?


a wall is another white supremacist propaganda tactic to divide people and promote their hate agenda

yes i am on the opposite side of nazis like you

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/biden-administration-fill-border-wall-gaps-yuma-arizona-rcna40567

You voted for a white supremist

[DMC]

the 10k/20k is the headliner... but the bigger deal is the lack of interest accrual on income based repayment plans and the doubling of the threshold for what is considered non-discretionary income

It doesn't bother me. These student loan agencies are cocksuckers. FUCK THEM ALL I HOPE THE ALL DIE!!!!! IDGAF... really I have no love for them in case you cannot tell.

[SpursforSix]

Plus, a 4 year degree plan is basically a waste the first two years because of all the unnecessary "required" crap you have to take before getting into the meat of your degree plan.

I'll also add that now (as opposed to back in the day), there are a lot of high school programs where kids are graduating with almost two years of college credits. I'm not sure if that's nationwide but it's pretty common here. A lot of off campus stuff with junior colleges. And the AP classes. I'm not sure if all that transfers to the more selective universities.

[boutons_deux]

Them alert disaster in November and maybe even take the Senate

I expect there will be another round of loan forgiveness in 2024

[Spurminator]

I mean are the people who paid their loans off yesterday and people who will get a new student loan tomorrow shit outof luck????

If you paid off your student loans yesterday, then you went to school a longer time ago and probably saved way more than $10,000 during the period of your loan than most of the people who haven't paid them off.

[spurraider21]

Biden voter here. My question is is this a 1 point in time band aid? Or Im missing something?

I mean are the people who paid their loans off yesterday and people who will get a new student loan tomorrow shit outof luck????


:lol

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[SpursforSix]

Did any of you aunti loan forgiveness assholes bitch and whine and complain about the 2017 Trump tax cut scam which cost America trillions and revenue?

Or the Repug 2001 scam tax cut rammed through witg reconciliation?

$800B every fucking year for the fucking corrupt loser military and wealthy MIC investors?


Them alert disaster in November and maybe even take the Senate

I expect there will be another round of loan forgiveness in 2024

https://64.media.tumblr.com/30cd3e074eb398ec9240aa9866932139/tumblr_mus7qx06mE1qgrjt5o3_r1_250.gifv

[sickdsm]

You forgot the many more people farther down the tracks that are getting murdered.

[spurraider21]

You forgot the many more people farther down the tracks that are getting murdered.
do you propose that we preemptively forgive debts that dont exist?

[sickdsm]

That number has to be way higher than 10%. The people that I know of taking the money (that didn't need it) didn't spend it on luxuries. They just took the free money. I doubt there's any real way to document who needed the money and who didn't. My point is that some businesses that needed the money probably didn't get it because of this.
No successful business NEEDS a ppp loan. Sorry I took one and bought some equipment that I could have done without. I did however not bat an eye when my employee had multiple weeks where he had to stay home because of fruitcake COVID policies at school. His payroll was protected and the money was the least of my concern.

Your mind is going to be blown when you realize the amount of people who don't really need a deduction on their taxes for dependents.

[sickdsm]

do you propose that we preemptively forgive debts that dont exist?
Fuck the kids. Amirite? Pro forgiveness people always talk about helping others that have it worse but are addressing symptoms instead of the cause.

[spurraider21]

Fuck the kids. Amirite? Pro forgiveness people always talk about helping others that have it worse but are addressing symptoms instead of the cause.
i mean i supported candidates in the primaries who ran on making college tuition free

[SpursforSix]

No successful business NEEDS a ppp loan. Sorry I took one and bought some equipment that I could have done without. I did however not bat an eye when my employee had multiple weeks where he had to stay home because of fruitcake COVID policies at school. His payroll was protected and the money was the least of my concern.

Your mind is going to be blown when you realize the amount of people who don't really need a deduction on their taxes for dependents.

It's all relative I guess but that wasn't the intent of the ppp. I'm not going to judge you. Maybe that equipment makes your business more efficient and more healthy in the long run. That's different that just looking at it as free money to put in the bank. The guy I know that had me fill out his forms was (and is) netting around $10,000,000 per year. I think he got a ppp of around $60,000. It totally meant nothing to the success of his business but that would have made a huge difference to a small business than needed it and might have been the difference between them staying in business or closing down. That's the most extreme example I am personally aware of. But also know of several self employed people that didn't need it but took it anyway just because it was free.

[koriwhat]

The whole system is antiquated. Sure it's beneficial at times to be in a class in front of a good professor. And some degrees require the labwork and physical interaction. But everything in the world is on the internet. For many degrees, you can learn the same stuff for free. You just can't get the piece of paper.

Preaching to the choir with that response tbh. But tell that to all the dipshits who dug a hole for themselves, who are arrogant af thinking they're intellectuals, but they can't accept they got into debt by their own volition and should pay for it on their own.

[koriwhat]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/biden-administration-fill-border-wall-gaps-yuma-arizona-rcna40567

You voted for a white supremist

Spurs Homer is a retard. He not only voted for a racist but the last Dixiecrat there is and those aren't my words either but Biden's & HRC's mentor Robert KKK Fuckface Byrd.

I can't wait until SH goes the way of Mouse and the rest of them that are long gone. I'd take Mouse back in a heartbeat if we could get rid of dumbfuck SH.

[daboom1]

"And now, folks, it's time for "Who do you trust!" Hubba, hubba, hubba! Money, money, money! Who do you trust? Me? I'm giving away free money!"

[spurraider21]

"And now, folks, it's time for "Who do you trust!" Hubba, hubba, hubba! Money, money, money! Who do you trust? Me? I'm giving away free money!"
:wow going in hard on people running on tax cuts :wow

[Dirks_Finale]

So if we want our car payments or mortgage to 'identify' as student loan debt, who do we talk to on the left to get that process started?

[spurraider21]

So if we want our car payments or mortgage to 'identify' as student loan debt, who do we talk to on the left to get that process started?
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/492/997/b67.png

[Ef-man]

https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/treasury-checks-flt-ht-ps-200420_hpMain_16x9t_992.jpg

I know for a fact that one of Qchrisy’s idols, that claimed he was here every-single-day when he disappeared from ST, was endlessly bitching and moaning about $600 he did not get from Biden.

Funny how things change. :lol

[Winehole23]

So if we want our car payments or mortgage to 'identify' as student loan debt, who do we talk to on the left to get that process started?your shrink

[Dirks_Finale]

your shrink

Seriously, where is the 'free' money for us responsible folks who pay their own bills?

[sickdsm]

i mean i supported candidates in the primaries who ran on making college tuition free
Well that's a shitty solution. How about just trade schools and careers in dire need? Like teachers and nurses? What about either reversing the CDL requirements or again free training especially among lower income?

[Dirks_Finale]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/492/997/b67.png


Much like watching Biden eat the pavement during a bike ride, it's still funny :tu

[DarrinS]

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[hater]

As a parent of two middle schoolers I can confirm college is still looking expensive AF. Even if this is a permanent change a subsidy doesn't ever lower costs long term.

Yeah its like 2.5k per school year right? And only 4 years. In 5 years with this inflation and interest rates this sill be negligible

[sickdsm]

Yeah its like 2.5k per school year right? And only 4 years. In 5 years with this inflation and interest rates this sill be negligible

I imagine this will help quicken some tuition hikes. It does absolutely nothing to address the problem.

There's something wrong with either your field of education or personally if one cannot parlay a secondary education into earnings enough to quickly pay back that loan.

[ChumpDumper]

1562513994233290753I'd explain the context to you, but you'd scream "CRT!" and curl into a whimpering ball in the corner.

[Spurminator]

Seriously, where is the 'free' money for us responsible folks who pay their own bills?

I'm sorry your bills are so high, maybe you should have gotten a college education.

[koriwhat]

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Funny how that old KKK loving racist Biden panders to the black & brown communities. That racist pos doesn't give one fuck about them unless it furthers his Marxist agenda of which "debt free" college does.

I can not wait to celebrate his passing. Fuck that old pos Biden! And fuck all you retards who celebrate him and his ilk you fucking npc's.

[Monostradamus]

So if we want our car payments or mortgage to 'identify' as student loan debt, who do we talk to on the left to get that process started?
What conservative Facebook page did you steal that from?

[koriwhat]

What conservative Facebook page did you steal that from?

What leftist Facebook page did you steal your diet from? Or lack thereof...

[Monostradamus]

What leftist Facebook page did you steal your diet from? Or lack thereof...
http://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/843/123014a0-6242-0133-0c1d-0e34a4cc753d.gif?w=320

[koriwhat]

http://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/843/123014a0-6242-0133-0c1d-0e34a4cc753d.gif?w=320

neither does your scale.

https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/closeup-of-mans-feet-on-weight-scale-indicating-error-picture-id487795772?k=20&m=487795772&s=170667a&w=0&h=1LCUX8iP3RyZmlji2yvwv0CHEVMnhQ6v-QG-lUbPcm8=

[daboom1]

neither does your scale.

https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/closeup-of-mans-feet-on-weight-scale-indicating-error-picture-id487795772?k=20&m=487795772&s=170667a&w=0&h=1LCUX8iP3RyZmlji2yvwv0CHEVMnhQ6v-QG-lUbPcm8=

gotheem :lol

[koriwhat]

gotheem :lol

I'm surprised diabetes hasn't "gotheem" yet.

[Monostradamus]

Speaking of rehashed jokes, remember how you cowered in fear when challenged by benefactor (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=13284) and Joseph Kony (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31867)?

[DMC]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/492/997/b67.png

You're not going to unpathetic the concept of "identifying as other" by ad nauseum posting of that meme.

[weebo]

Why are you in a conversation about higher education you stupid GED having inbred fuck?

[DMC]

I'm sorry your bills are so high, maybe you should have gotten a college education.

Posting here for a few years should earn credits in Queer Studies tbh

[DMC]

neither does your scale.

https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/closeup-of-mans-feet-on-weight-scale-indicating-error-picture-id487795772?k=20&m=487795772&s=170667a&w=0&h=1LCUX8iP3RyZmlji2yvwv0CHEVMnhQ6v-QG-lUbPcm8=

andy's hobbit feet?

[Dirks_Finale]

I'm sorry your bills are so high, maybe you should have gotten a college education.

I paid off my own student loan.

I thought that is what we are supposed to do in life?

[DMC]

I paid off my own student loan.

I thought that is what we are supposed to do in life?

You're talking to someone who lived with mom till he was 26.

[ducks]

Colleges that may benefit from Biden student loan handout have spent over $130 million on lobbying since 2021

[Dirks_Finale]

Funny how that old KKK loving racist Biden panders to the black & brown communities. That racist pos doesn't give one fuck about them unless it furthers his Marxist agenda of which "debt free" college does.

I can not wait to celebrate his passing. Fuck that old pos Biden! And fuck all you retards who celebrate him and his ilk you fucking npc's.

He is pretty crafty, though... purchasing their votes with tax payer money.

This is an L for the country and our crumbling currency, but a win for Democratic politicians, tbh.

[Dirks_Finale]

You're talking to someone who lived with mom till he was 26.


:lol

[Spurminator]

I paid off my own student loan.

I thought that is what we are supposed to do in life?

I did too and yet somehow I'm not butthurt about people who had to take twice as much money on loan getting a small break. Why are you?

Oh right, the persecution.

:cry Not fair :cry

[spurraider21]

You're not going to unpathetic the concept of "identifying as other" by ad nauseum posting of that meme.
perhaps not but its still topically accurate

maybe one day some of the conservatives on this board can identify as funny

[daboom1]

You're talking to someone who lived with mom till he was 26.

:lol yup

[Monostradamus]

Why are you in a conversation about higher education you stupid GED having inbred fuck?
:lmao koriwhat owned again

[Monostradamus]

:lol yup
You’re over 30 and still live with your parents :lol goteeem

[Spurminator]

You're talking to someone who lived with mom till he was 26.

That's okay, invent whatever narrative you need to feel less owned. :lol

[daboom1]

You’re over 30 and still live with your parents :lol goteeem


That's okay, invent whatever narrative you need to feel less owned. :lol

:lol

[MultiTroll]

Joey Biden

81 Million votes

[DMC]

perhaps not but its still topically accurate

maybe one day some of the conservatives on this board can identify as funny

But I've seen first hand that "funny" here is very much along party lines.

[spurraider21]

But I've seen first hand that "funny" here is very much along party lines.
Nah sometimes you say shit that’s so dumb it’s funny

[Monostradamus]

:lol
You literally talked about living with your parents and stomping off to your room when they watch Rachel Maddow :lmao

[daboom1]

You literally talked about living with your parents and stomping off to your room when they watch Rachel Maddow :lmao

Never said such.

Monogoloid :lmao

[Winehole23]

Briefly on topic, reportedly the authority to modify loans came from the HEROES Act.

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[ElNono]

Plus, a 4 year degree plan is basically a waste the first two years because of all the unnecessary "required" crap you have to take before getting into the meat of your degree plan.

Government shouldn't backstop those loans, period. If they want to have a program to subsidize tuition, room and board for low income students, that's fine.

Otherwise financing should be provided by the Colleges themselves, and there should be no reason why somebody can't bankrupt on such a loan.

That puts the onus/risk on Colleges. It forces them not to charge extravagant amounts and ensure there's an interest from them to have a pipeline from College to employment (if they ever want to get paid).

It also gives young kids an option to walk away from such loans with a credit hit early in their lives, but otherwise don't have that loan hanging on them for life.

[ElNono]

So if we want our car payments or mortgage to 'identify' as student loan debt, who do we talk to on the left to get that process started?

I mean, I get the dig, but you don't really want that. Unless you want to make those loans not dischargeable in a bankrupt proceeding.

[ElNono]

Seriously, where is the 'free' money for us responsible folks who pay their own bills?

Didn't you get multiple COVID relief checks and 'free' vaccines? The problem isn't getting your 'free' money, the problem is you want more and more free shit...

[Isitjustme?]

"And now, folks, it's time for "Who do you trust!" Hubba, hubba, hubba! Money, money, money! Who do you trust? Me? I'm giving away free money!"

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[Isitjustme?]

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[Dirks_Finale]

Didn't you get multiple COVID relief checks and 'free' vaccines? The problem isn't getting your 'free' money, the problem is you want more and more free shit...

And it's still in my bank account.

And your stimmy is probably still in your bank account as well

I think the 1.1 million dead people who got stimmy checks probably didn't need the $ either.

In the meantime, the value of the currency continues to crumble.

[DMC]

Nah sometimes you say shit that’s so dumb it’s funny

Thanks for illustrating my point that the only humor attempts here are "gotheem" shots for same party likes. Hardly humor.

[boutons_deux]

IRS treats forgiven loans as taxable income, but IRS will not tax biden's loan forgiveness

However, state income tax is a separate question

Repugs forced through $2T tax cut scam in 2017,as they did in 2001, heavily benefiting people on the high end


Now they whine and outrage about a much smaller giveaway for people on the low end only.

Fuck the repugs

[Monostradamus]

And it's still in my bank account.

And your stimmy is probably still in your bank account as well

I think the 1.1 million dead people who got stimmy checks probably didn't need the $ either.

In the meantime, the value of the currency continues to crumble.
Whose name was on your stimmy check?

[DarrinS]

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[ChumpDumper]

Darrin posted similar threads about PPP forgiveness?

[Leetonidas]

Hard to take any of this whining seriously when there was no peep from the righties about the PPP loans being forgiven

[Leetonidas]

And it's still in my bank account.

And your stimmy is probably still in your bank account as well

I think the 1.1 million dead people who got stimmy checks probably didn't need the $ either.

In the meantime, the value of the currency continues to crumble.

Thanks Trump :tu

[DarrinS]

Darrin posted similar threads about PPP forgiveness?


Hard to take any of this whining seriously when there was no peep from the righties about the PPP loans being forgiven


^ Was a memo sent out? :lmao

[lefty]

Alpha move by Alpha Joe

[Spurminator]

When multiple people bring up the same obvious sign of hypocrisy from recent history, the most obvious explanation is a :cry memo :cry

Especially when you have no rebuttal.

[ChumpDumper]

^ Was a memo sent out? :lmao

More than one person can recognize your hypocrisy, Darrin.

It's quite blatant.:tu

[Leetonidas]

^ Was a memo sent out? :lmao

It's called common sense dumbass :lol

Way to deflect as usual tho. Par the course for Karrin

[DarrinS]

I don't think PPP loans should be forgiven either.

[DMC]

^ Was a memo sent out? :lmao

What echo chamber? There's no echo chamber here.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't think PPP loans should be forgiven either.

Where's your Brit Hume twitter thread on that?

[Isitjustme?]

What echo chamber? There's no echo chamber here.

Exactly, no echo chambers on ST. For instance, Trump is Officially doing awesome is a famous well known thread where Republicans have nuanced debate about the pros and cons Donald Trump. One of many non-echo chambers Conservatives like yourselves discuss items in an even-handed manner guided by Tucker Carlson clips and MAGApersistor12321 tweets

[Winehole23]

And it's still in my bank account.

And your stimmy is probably still in your bank account as well

I think the 1.1 million dead people who got stimmy checks probably didn't need the $ either.

In the meantime, the value of the currency continues to crumble.by what metric? I hear some calling a head and shoulders market top for USD, but saying our currency is crumbling is pure Chicken Little-ism.



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[Winehole23]

As a parent of two middle schoolers I can confirm college is still looking expensive AF. Even if this is a permanent change a subsidy doesn't ever lower costs long term.is it ok to keep treating cancer cases until a cure is found?

[daboom1]

A watchdog group claims Biden’s newly announced #StudentLoanForgiveness scheme stands to benefit a number of Biden appointees.

The group found at least 223 high-ranking Biden appointees have outstanding loans, in total, of $12.6–31.2 million.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/bidens-student-debt-forgiveness-to-benefit-white-house-staffers-watchdog_4688208.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=truthsocial

yup

[ChumpDumper]

A watchdog group claims Biden’s newly announced #StudentLoanForgiveness scheme stands to benefit a number of Biden appointees.

The group found at least 223 high-ranking Biden appointees have outstanding loans, in total, of $12.6–31.2 million.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/bidens-student-debt-forgiveness-to-benefit-white-house-staffers-watchdog_4688208.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=truthsocial

yup

:lmao

[Spurminator]

A watchdog group claims Biden’s newly announced #StudentLoanForgiveness scheme stands to benefit a number of Biden appointees.

The group found at least 223 high-ranking Biden appointees have outstanding loans, in total, of $12.6–31.2 million.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/bidens-student-debt-forgiveness-to-benefit-white-house-staffers-watchdog_4688208.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=truthsocial

yup

https://images.vat19.com/covers/large/the-original-stretch-armstrong.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

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[CosmicCowboy]

Briefly on topic, reportedly the authority to modify loans came from the HEROES Act.

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where is the "National Emergency?"

[Winehole23]

where is the "National Emergency?"COVID.

~210,000 killed this year so far, millions sickened, 2-4 million people too incapacitated to work from long COVID, no end in sight.

https://www.brookings.edu/research/new-data-shows-long-covid-is-keeping-as-many-as-4-million-people-out-of-work/

[ChumpDumper]

where is the "National Emergency?"Right here. Greg Abbott agrees.

[daboom1]

45: Joe Biden and the Radical Left Democrats have just orchestrated another election enhancing money grab, this time to the tune of $300,000,000,000—and just like I predicted, it’s coming right out of the pocket of the working-class Americans who are struggling the most!



https://i.ibb.co/RSH8SR8/c15a109d7b6c1a14.jpg


https://truthsocial.com/users/DonaldJTrumpJr/statuses/108884419749795551

[spurraider21]

orange man's tax cuts cost over 2 trillion and yet he is whining about 330 billion. specifically odd when the 2 trillion overwhelmingly benefitted the wealthy while the 330 billion... doesnt

[Leetonidas]

Joe Biden and the democrats are stealing money!

Also please give some of your money!!! I'm a billionaire (trust me) but need donations to save America!!

[ChumpDumper]

45: Joe Biden and the Radical Left Democrats have just orchestrated another election enhancing money grab, this time to the tune of $300,000,000,000—and just like I predicted, it’s coming right out of the pocket of the working-class Americans who are struggling the most!



https://i.ibb.co/RSH8SR8/c15a109d7b6c1a14.jpg


https://truthsocial.com/users/DonaldJTrumpJr/statuses/108884419749795551

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[Winehole23]

hippie socialists at Goldman Sachs weigh in

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbA-mCyWQAATA91?format=jpg&name=900x900

[ChumpDumper]

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[daboom1]

Rick Scott triggering Libs :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Rick Scott triggering Libs :lol:lol You're keeping track of Biden's two hour commute.

[sickdsm]

is it ok to keep treating cancer cases until a cure is found?


The cancer vaccine would exist in this scenario except it's not a convenient method of administrating.

[sickdsm]

Hard to take any of this whining seriously when there was no peep from the righties about the PPP loans being forgiven

Literally everyone I knew that got PPP knew it was an idiotic deal but realized if you don't take advantage of it your competition would.

It's like the guys that weren't eligible for it have no sense of running a business.

[RandomGuy]

Even though it's not legal.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/23/biden-student-loan-forgiveness-repayment-pause-00053299

Nah. totally legal and absolutely awesome.

[TSA]

Nah. totally legal and absolutely awesome.

I’m fine with the people who can take advantage of it but totally legal?….:lol no

[daboom1]

$500 Billion for a College Bailout
$65 Billion for Ukraine
$87 Billion to the Taliban

All Trump wanted was $15 Billion for a Wall.

[spurraider21]

$500 Billion for a College Bailout
$65 Billion for Ukraine
$87 Billion to the Taliban

All Trump wanted was $15 Billion for a Wall.
you forgot over 2 trillion in tax cuts

[Leetonidas]

I thought Mexico was gonna pay for that wall

[spurraider21]

:lol another one

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[ElNono]

And it's still in my bank account.

And your stimmy is probably still in your bank account as well

I think the 1.1 million dead people who got stimmy checks probably didn't need the $ either.

In the meantime, the value of the currency continues to crumble.

I spent mine in groceries, tbh... but that's besides the point.

Do you also ask for your handout when the government subsidizes farming or oil? I mean, targeted government programs like this have existed forever, including Republican administrations.

And please, don't start pretending that now you care about the debt or deficits.

[ElNono]

by what metric? I hear some calling a head and shoulders market top for USD, but saying our currency is crumbling is pure Chicken Little-ism.

1555179595665575936

Exactly. As a matter of fact, the US dollar if fucking strong right now, and the exchange rate with other currencies has been a bloodbath.

[ElNono]

45: Joe Biden and the Radical Left Democrats have just orchestrated another election enhancing money grab, this time to the tune of $300,000,000,000—and just like I predicted, it’s coming right out of the pocket of the working-class Americans who are struggling the most!

https://truthsocial.com/users/DonaldJTrumpJr/statuses/108884419749795551

Nobody cares about has been loser

[ElNono]

1562557628965761025

Damn what a burn :lmao

Rick Scott getting owned per par :lmao

[ElNono]

:lol another one

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Damn, they're on a roll :lmao:lmao:lmao

https://snipboard.io/Wth2IU.jpg

:lmao GOP hypocrites

[Leetonidas]

Damn, they're on a roll :lmao:lmao:lmao

https://snipboard.io/Wth2IU.jpg

:lmao GOP hypocrites

:lmao getting rekt by the official WH Twitter

[Dirks_Finale]

by what metric? I hear some calling a head and shoulders market top for USD, but saying our currency is crumbling is pure Chicken Little-ism.



1555179595665575936

If you had 100k in the bank in 2021 it lost about 7k in value in just one year (2022).

[ElNono]

If you had 100k in the bank in 2021 it lost about 7k in value in just one year (2022).

As opposed to 2k to 3k which is what normally inflation rate is. Also, those 100k will buy you a whole lot more stuff if you happen to live outside of the US.

[Dirks_Finale]

I spent mine in groceries, tbh... but that's besides the point.

Do you also ask for your handout when the government subsidizes farming or oil? I mean, targeted government programs like this have existed forever, including Republican administrations.

And please, don't start pretending that now you care about the debt or deficits.

I actually wouldn't have had that big of a problem with his handout if he had means capped it at 70k because that means people who actually need the relief, get it.

Also, keep in mind that "free" college has always been available in this country. Just be a little patriotic, salute the flag( instead of disrespecting it) and serve your country.

And I have always cared about the debt and deficits. I was extremely critical of Bush (maybe the worst POTUS on record) I was also on record in this forum as saying that Trump's corporate tax rate was too low.

[Trill Clinton]

Damn, they're on a roll :lmao:lmao:lmao

https://snipboard.io/Wth2IU.jpg

:lmao GOP hypocrites


https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/picard.png

[DarrinS]

oh

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[Dirks_Finale]

As opposed to 2k to 3k which is what normally inflation rate is. Also, those 100k will buy you a whole lot more stuff if you happen to live outside of the US.

Yes 2 to 3 times what it normally is.

If your job gives you a decent raise of 5-6% you will still take a paycut under Biden.

[ElNono]

I actually wouldn't have had that big of a problem with his handout if he had means capped it at 70k because that means people who actually need the relief, get it.

Also, keep in mind that "free" college has always been available in this country. Just be a little patriotic, salute the flag( instead of disrespecting it) and serve your country.

And I have always cared about the debt and deficits. I was extremely critical of Bush (maybe the worst POTUS on record) I was also on record in this forum as saying that Trump's corporate tax rate was too low.

lmao @ calling that 'free'. Objectively, joining the military is a terrible career choice. Plus, this isn't making college free, it's simply giving some debt relief to a segment of the population that has struggled with it.

Just like businesses struggled during COVID, and nobody complained then.

If the argument is that this does nothing to fix the underlying problem, then I agree, but this handout doesn't really move the needle either way.

[ElNono]

oh

1562926855459463170

1. Sue and find out

2. Business = citizens, per Citizen's United. Citizen's United bad now.

3. Taking a PPP loan was a choice.

4. This handout expressly specifies it's being used to cancel student debt.

oh

[ElNono]

Yes 2 to 3 times what it normally is.

If your job gives you a decent raise of 5-6% you will still take a paycut under Biden.

Nobody is saying inflation isn't bad, just pointing out that the actual difference is in the 3k-4k range per 100k.

[ElNono]

Also, if you're a Republican and care about deficits, then you gotta wait for your next handout... we're helping Ukraine beat commies right now, tbh...

[daboom1]

If you had 100k in the bank in 2021 it lost about 7k in value in just one year (2022).

Darth Brandon

[DarrinS]

1. Sue and find out

2. Business = citizens, per Citizen's United. Citizen's United bad now.

3. Taking a PPP loan was a choice.

4. This handout expressly specifies it's being used to cancel student debt.

oh


Great points. :rolleyes

[Leetonidas]

oh

1562926855459463170

:lmao gubmit handouts good now

[DarrinS]

:lmao gubmit handouts good now

If gubmit shuts your business down

[daboom1]

oh

1562926855459463170

ez gotheem :lol

[Leetonidas]

If gubmit shuts your business down

The federal government shut businesses down?

[Spurminator]

oh

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"Staff" lol

[daboom1]

Hard to take any of this whining seriously when there was no peep from the righties about the PPP loans being forgiven

:lol

[Leetonidas]

https://i.ibb.co/V04KPDH/rage.png

[ElNono]

Great points. :rolleyes

You're welcome :tu

[DMC]

Exactly, no echo chambers on ST. For instance, Trump is Officially doing awesome is a famous well known thread where Republicans have nuanced debate about the pros and cons Donald Trump. One of many non-echo chambers Conservatives like yourselves discuss items in an even-handed manner guided by Tucker Carlson clips and MAGApersistor12321 tweets

Makes echo chamber comment, gets echo chamber likes instantly

:lol

[DMC]

If gubmit shuts your business down

Faux socialist democrats here are cool with government shutting down private businesses but will call you a capitalist hypocrite if you accept compensation for it. They obviously don't understand how capitalism works.

[DMC]

$500 Billion for a College Bailout
$65 Billion for Ukraine
$87 Billion to the Taliban

All Trump wanted was $15 Billion for a Wall.

If he couldn't get it what good was he?

[ElNono]

Faux socialist democrats here are cool with government shutting down private businesses but will call you a capitalist hypocrite if you accept compensation for it. They obviously don't understand how capitalism works.

No, the hypocrisy is when faux capitalists gladly take the government handout given to them then turn around bitch about other citizens getting a handout.

Not really complicated at all.

[ElNono]

If he couldn't get it what good was he?

Always a loser

[daboom1]

If he couldn't get it what good was he?

He got stonewalled.

[Isitjustme?]

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[Isitjustme?]

https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/picard.png

Just saw that :lmao

[Isitjustme?]

oh

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Darrin, I thought you was the guy on the right here. Made me respect you a little more. Don't be the guy on the left here bud, c'mon now. So gullible smh

https://i.redd.it/k5tsea5dtqq01.jpg

[daboom1]

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muh PPP :lol

[daboom1]

Darrin, I thought you was the guy on the right here. Made me respect you a little more. Don't be the guy on the left here bud, c'mon now. So gullible smh

https://i.redd.it/k5tsea5dtqq01.jpg

You spam this meme every time you get debunked. It's cute :lol

[ElNono]

'debunked' lmao

[RandomGuy]

oh

1562926855459463170

If you are explaining you are losing, and the sound clips will make excellent campaign ads.

The hypocrites sucking on the PPP tit and getting that forgiveness said all loan forgiveness was lazy and a government handout.

They should have simply paid it back, regardless, if they truly believed what they are saying.

That nuance sailed right over your pointy, thick head.

[RandomGuy]

1. Sue and find out

2. Business = citizens, per Citizen's United. Citizen's United bad now.

3. Taking a PPP loan was a choice.

4. This handout expressly specifies it's being used to cancel student debt.

oh

Looks like you beat me to it.

[Winehole23]

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[daboom1]

Economist Steve Moore: Biden’s student loan cancellation unconstitutional, but also will backfire in midterms | Just The News

https://justthenews.com/podcasts/john-solomon-reports/steve-moore-bidens-student-loan-cancelation-unconstitutional-also

[ChumpDumper]

Economist Steve Moore: Biden’s student loan cancellation unconstitutional, but also will backfire in midterms | Just The News

https://justthenews.com/podcasts/john-solomon-reports/steve-moore-bidens-student-loan-cancelation-unconstitutional-also

J:lolhn S:loll:lolm:loln

[Ef-man]

Economist Steve Moore: Biden’s student loan cancellation unconstitutional, but also will backfire in midterms | Just The News

https://justthenews.com/podcasts/john-solomon-reports/steve-moore-bidens-student-loan-cancelation-unconstitutional-also

Yup, same Steve that was found in contempt of court in 2012 for failing to pay his ex-wife $300,000 in spousal support, child support and other obligations in his divorce settlement. Bet he thought the charge was unconstitutional too. :lol

[Winehole23]

1563620028250996737 Gunnels didn't adjust a bunch of stuff for inflation and he's deservedly getting torched for it. weird thing is, he didn't have to distort, the picture is still pretty bad when everything's properly adjusted.

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[Spurminator]

At some point Lonely Chris is bound to run out of tears.

[Winehole23]

tl;dr

The PPP was mainly a handout to owners.


KEY TAKEAWAYS

The Paycheck Protection Program (PPP), which provided relief to small businesses during the COVID-19 crisis, was implemented quickly and wound up most of its operations within two years.
But, as a new study by economist David Autor and others showed, the PPP was not well targeted. Only about one-quarter of PPP funds supported jobs that otherwise would have disappeared.
In addition, the study found that the PPP’s benefits flowed disproportionately to wealthier households rather than to the rank-and-file workers that its funds were intended to reach.



https://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/regional-economist/2022/jul/was-paycheck-protection-program-effective

[DMC]

tl;dr

The PPP was mainly a handout to owners.


https://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/regional-economist/2022/jul/was-paycheck-protection-program-effective

You're ignoring the fact that business were forced to close by the federal and state governments.

[ChumpDumper]

You're ignoring the fact that business were forced to close by the federal and state governments.

So what?

[Winehole23]

You're ignoring the fact that business were forced to close by the federal and state governments.not at all, a few posts back I said that even the fraud might have been beneficial in the aggregate.

[ducks]

Former Clinton adviser slams Biden's student loan debt handout: 'This is terrible policy

[Leetonidas]

Former Clinton adviser slams Biden's student loan debt handout: 'This is terrible policy

Sorry this is happening to you

[spurraider21]

Former Clinton adviser slams Biden's student loan debt handout: 'This is terrible policy
we all know how seriously takes former clinton advisers

[DMC]

not at all, a few posts back I said that even the fraud might have been beneficial in the aggregate.

This has zero to do with what I said.

[Winehole23]

This has zero to do with what I said.likewise, my dude

[Winehole23]

didn't Betsy DeVos -- a billionaire, while serving as Secretary of Education -- get like $3.5m in PPP forgiven?

1563880611789545473 (https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1563880611789545473?s=20&t=ICTI2iAP4hLSMrEITXtdBg)

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1564316236435148801?s=20

[boutons_deux]

Republicans hate Biden’s student debt plan,

and know they can count on the Supreme Court to end it

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) says a top Supreme Court litigator told him that

the best potential plaintiff for establishing "standing" to overturn Biden's student debt plan would be a student loan processor, predicts action is blocked by SCOTUS 6-3

So he and the Heritage Foundation are out trawling for plaintiffs (https://www.businessinsider.in/policy/economy/news/a-gop-group-against-student-debt-cancellation-is-looking-for-someone-with-the-standing-and-the-gumption-to-sue-biden-over-his-forgiveness-plan/articleshow/93934649.cms),

a favorite pastime of Republicans who don’t want people to have nice things, like access to health care or well-funded public education, or affordable college.

Cruz, his fellow Republicans, and

certainly the extremist Supreme Court aren’t going to care about what’s best for the people

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/9/7/2121353/-Ted-Cruz-is-still-plotting-to-use-the-Supreme-Court-to-keep-millions-in-debt

[CosmicCowboy]

For you guys whining about the PPP, you REALLY should be bitching about the Employee Retention Credit your blue team passed. Its like free money and lots of it.

[boutons_deux]

Biden to refund college loan debtors who paid during the pandemic.

[DMC]

American taxpayers to refund college loan debtors who paid during the pandemic.

FIFY

[ChumpDumper]

derp is severely salty about this

[Winehole23]

derp is severely salty about thisit's understandable. the guy says he voted for might get reelected because he kept a promise.

[koriwhat]

No accountability... Fucking despicable!

[DMC]

I'm good with the debt forgiveness. The US basically prints money with nothing to back it, so giving that back to the people is a step in the right direction. Just don't pretend any politician is "giving" anything, they are simply signing orders to redirect taxpayer money to institutions of wealth. Reimbursement is a way to remain above board, but the 330b is to lending institutions. Eventually it will pan out as a positive. This is basic trickle down economics.

[pgardn]

I'm good with the debt forgiveness. The US basically prints money with nothing to back it, so giving that back to the people is a step in the right direction. Just don't pretend any politician is "giving" anything, they are simply signing orders to redirect taxpayer money to institutions of wealth. Reimbursement is a way to remain above board, but the 330b is to lending institutions. Eventually it will pan out as a positive. This is basic trickle down economics.

Nothing to back it?

That’s stupid BS.
Why does China and the rest of the world bother to buy US Treasury bonds?
Because it’s the safest investment in the world. Why is it the safest investment in the world with no backing?
Because it’s backing is that is considered the safest investment in the world.
And you want it backed by sea shells or some useless mineral. Move on old man.

[DMC]

Nothing to back it?

That’s stupid BS.
Why does China and the rest of the world bother to buy US Treasury bonds?
Because it’s the safest investment in the world. Why is it the safest investment in the world with no backing?
Because it’s backing is that is considered the safest investment in the world.
And you want it backed by sea shells or some useless mineral. Move on old man.
:lol doesn't understand fiat money

Today, like the currency of most nations, the dollar is fiat money, unbacked by any physical asset. -Wiki

[Dirks_Finale]

I'm good with the debt forgiveness. The US basically prints money with nothing to back it, so giving that back to the people is a step in the right direction. Just don't pretend any politician is "giving" anything, they are simply signing orders to redirect taxpayer money to institutions of wealth. Reimbursement is a way to remain above board, but the 330b is to lending institutions. Eventually it will pan out as a positive. This is basic trickle down economics.

I was actually ok with it as well. I just felt that they capped it too high. If you are gonna do something like that, just help those who have college debt without making college educated type salaries. I know people who are constantly applying for deferments because they are barely getting by. Help those people.

Republican pundits and politicians should steer clear from this issue. It's a trap that sleepy Joe pulled off and they are walking right into it like idiots.

[pgardn]

:lol doesn't understand fiat money

Does not understand that faith in a currency is the backing that makes it valuable.

Idiot…

[DMC]

I was actually ok with it as well. I just felt that they capped it too high. If you are gonna do something like that, just help those who have college debt without making college educated type salaries. I know people who are constantly applying for deferments because they are barely getting by. Help those people.

Republican pundits and politicians should steer clear from this issue. It's a trap that sleepy Joe pulled off and they are walking right into it like idiots.

Personal choice has to play in, so you just give everyone the same break and they get from it what they can. Otherwise you have to set up a welfare screening system that probably costs more than the allotted amount for the program. You need to make the bridge using the least amount of concrete and steel required, else you cannot make the bridge. Maybe a better bridge could have been made with more concrete and steel, but that's not the challenge.

[DMC]

Does not understand that faith in a currency is the backing that makes it valuable.

Idiot…

:lol broke you again. Every time you step in with your "Imma show you" interjections, you get easily dismissed. You really are a dumb ass. Now one of your semen shielding cohorts will come along and attempt to obfuscate the point to try to help you regain dignity, but they'll just be noise.

[pgardn]

:lol broke you again. Every time you step in with your "Imma show you" interjections, you get easily dismissed.

You dismissed absolutely nothing.
Faith in a currency is the backing. You want it tied to what?
If the US is considered to just print money thoughtlessly and the currency is deemed worthless then it is worthless.

Make this harder for yourself if you want. Find some little niggle.
These are the basics.

[pgardn]

DMC is damn glad the edit function is working so he can backtrack.

[koriwhat]

How many of you faux intellectuals are going to become welfare recipients and unaccountable for your own adult actions? :lmao

[koriwhat]

DMC is damn glad the edit function is working so he can backtrack.

I've seen you edit countless posts before bro. :tu

[boutons_deux]

Dems going after Navient for trying to persuade people with public student debt

to switch to private lenders so the debt won't be forgiven.

America is rotten with fraudsters, grifters, predators, cheaters, liars

[DMC]

You dismissed absolutely nothing.
Faith in a currency is the backing. You want it tied to what?
If the US is considered to just print money thoughtlessly and the currency is deemed worthless then it is worthless.

Make this harder for yourself if you want. Find some little niggle.
These are the basics.
Faith isn't backing, dipshit. Do you consider faith to be collateral? Are you really this fucking stupid?

[ducks]

Dems going after Navient for trying to persuade people with public student debt

to switch to private lenders so the debt won't be forgiven.

America is rotten with fraudsters, grifters, predators, cheaters, liarsyet you will not move to your perfect country China

[pgardn]

Faith isn't backing, dipshit. Do you consider faith to be collateral? Are you really this fucking stupid?

It absolutely is.
Faith means you will use accept the currency for goods and services as well as using it to buy goods and services because others also have the FAITH that the currency will allow them to do the same.

wtf do you think Faith means in this context fk stick?

[pgardn]

I've seen you edit countless posts before bro. :tu

Of course you have.
But mostly to correct words mistranslated by my phone, not to change my argument.

So since you don’t gaf, but butted in anyway to serve your bromate, please expand upon his argument.

[pgardn]

What do you want currency tied to DMC?
Please explain your answer.

Koriwhat.
Come help him.

[Winehole23]

DMC is damn glad the edit function is working so he can backtrack.there's nothing wrong with that. being wedded to one's first take is often a mistake.

[koriwhat]

Of course you have.
But mostly to correct words mistranslated by my phone, not to change my argument.

So since you don’t gaf, but butted in anyway to serve your bromate, please expand upon his argument.

He's not my "bromate"... He's just a dude on the internet with common sense unlike most here.

[Isitjustme?]

koriwhat couldn't get into college and is bitter about it apparently. Sad!