Game thread Spurs @ Jazz

[Joseph Kony]

20 minutes til and no thread?

[Dejounte]

Starters
Tre
Vassell
Keldon
Sochan
Poeltl

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fe1Fj5NWAAIBk8N?format=jpg&name=large

[KingKev]

20 minutes til and no thread?

haha I was going to start one but the excitement of who starts at the 4 between KBD, Roby and Sochan mixed with rumours of KJ and Primo back had me tweaking

On a serious note link to a stream would be appreciated.

NBA league pass hasn’t showed a game yet here in Canada.

[ace3g]

Stream link

San Antonio Spurs (vimeo.com) (https://vimeo.com/user136444644)

[Joseph Kony]

Stream link

San Antonio Spurs (vimeo.com) (https://vimeo.com/user136444644)

:tu :tu

[KingKev]

@acr3g the mayor of ST

[Dejounte]

Let’s see if the enormous offcourt chemistry Kj and Sochan share spills over to oncourt

[BillMc]

Stream link

San Antonio Spurs (vimeo.com) (https://vimeo.com/user136444644)

It says I need to login. Grrrr....

[emanueldavidginobili]

Looks like this could the starting lineup going into game 1. With the 12 overall pick on a terrible team coming off the bench in his second year.

[AFBlue]

This is Sochan's first start, right?

[emanueldavidginobili]

Blake Primo Branham and Roby lineup could be fun though

[lefty20]

Pop already in mid season form.

[ace3g]

Sochan to Keldon for 3!!!

[heyheymymy]

keep thinking olynyk is Fabricio out there lol

[emanueldavidginobili]

Keldon had a helluva offseason physique wise

[heyheymymy]

wow sochan letting the 3 fly no hesitation

[Dejounte]

Some unlucky in and out baskets

vassell with a couple dribbles and the midrange shot. Just like how I said. That should be his focus.

[baseline bum]

Very encouraged watching this game. Thought the Jazz might out tank us, but this Spurs defense should get us to a top 5 pick easy.

[Dejounte]

Keldon telling Sochan to box out. #leader

[lefty20]

Did Olynyk just push Sochan into Vassell on that rebound? Cuz someone needs to tell that mf to chill.

[heyheymymy]

where's my friend John B

Vass lookin like prime Kobe tonight lol

[heyheymymy]

lineup looks so much better with KJ

[heyheymymy]

primo playin backup PG right now

[Dejounte]

Keldon and Vassell are absolutely killing it. Keldon should have about 6 plus more points right now if it weren’t for those in and outs.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Don't wanna be that guy but Primo looks pretty big out there.

[PhantomDashCam]

Not that Utah is much of a litmus test but Keldon getting whatever shot he wants atm.

[John B]

haha I was going to start one but the excitement of who starts at the 4 between KBD, Roby and Sochan mixed with rumours of KJ and Primo back had me tweaking

On a serious note link to a stream would be appreciated.

NBA league pass hasn’t showed a game yet here in Canada.

Just started reading post. It’s on Spurs App

[emanueldavidginobili]

Keldon easily going 20+ ppg this year.

[Dejounte]

Don't wanna be that guy but Primo looks pretty big out there.

Does look the same height as Keldon

[scott]

RACE FOR SEIS IS ON MOTHERFUCKERS

[John B]

where's my friend John B

Vass lookin like prime Kobe tonight lol

Dropped off my kid at Tae Kwon Do, watching on my iPhone at the parking lot. :lol

[heyheymymy]

these early full court presses are creating extra possessions

[poopbox]

Forgot Rudy Gay was even in the league :rollin

[Dejounte]

That was a PRO and 1 move by Primo.

[emanueldavidginobili]

A burst from Primo? wow

[PhantomDashCam]

Don’t miss that Rudy G Defense at all :lol

[poopbox]

Primo going right at old man Gay

[heyheymymy]

wow Keldon looks legit

[scott]

Primo
McD
KBD
Roby
Dieng

Swap Roby for Langford and slide KBD down to the 4 and is this the least interesting lineup the Spurs can trot out?

[John B]

Aww Rudy :lol

[ace3g]

The dreaded instant replay during Spurs offensive possession...

[heyheymymy]

Primo
MCD
Roby
KBD
Dieng

[PhantomDashCam]

Primo going full Kyrie with the handle. :wow Def. Some future ankles to be broken

[td4mvp2k]

dieng dont need to be on this team. dont see him on final roster.

[scott]

Feel bad for Rudy. Had to endure playing for Kings for years, then comes to SA and has to put up with their fall from grace only to move on to a Utah team who blows it up to go full tank.

[John B]

They’re looking awfully good :lmao

[lefty20]

They’re looking awfully good :lmao

Easy fix, we're just gonna need amused to start a few game threads.

[John B]

I was gonna say Will Hardy coaching, where’s Pop? Then I saw Hazz jerseys :lmao

[Ocotillo]

Spurs Fan: We be tankin' for Wemby!!

Danny Ainge: Hold my non-alcoholic beer

[heyheymymy]

vass back in

went 4-4 on his first shift

[heyheymymy]

dude roby has a tendency to be careless with the ball

[Leetonidas]

Solid start

[John B]

39 pts in 1st quarter? Are they good or the Jazz just really bad? :lmao

[heyheymymy]

sick move by Sexton

[BillMc]

My first viewing of a preseason game. We don't look too bad. What's with the tank talk?:rollin

[emanueldavidginobili]

Now that Primo and Keldon are back Blake hasn't sniffed a minute. Unless he is resting or injured?

[heyheymymy]

this is def a "actually try hard" game tonight for SA

[poopbox]

Poeltl and Sochan the brick hand brothers :rollin

[Leetonidas]

Now that Primo and Keldon are back Blake hasn't sniffed a minute. Unless he is resting or injured?

He'll probably get plenty of time in the 2nd half

[poopbox]

Rudy Gay letting Tre out hustle him for a rebound :rollin

[BillMc]

Jakob's only mistakes are trying to get Sochan involved.

[baseline bum]

RACE FOR SEIS IS ON MOTHERFUCKERS

Seis? We want pick uno. Or maybe dos.

[heyheymymy]

GUN

FOR

#1

[paperboy77]

I really have a hard time admitting we really aren't that good but daym! We are going to be brutal to watch. I'll hold out till the RS starts but this is not looking good. I have always said we need taller players and I still say that. I will be tested more than ever this season.

[poopbox]

McDermott is the new Forbes. Think we got our tank commander boys

[lefty20]

Primo with the good D and followed it with a retarded pass... smh

[scott]

Seis? We want pick uno. Or maybe dos.

We're all joking... but is Wemby so good that most fans would rather have him than a fluke 'chip?

Asked another way. Would you rather:

1) Draft Wemby
2) Win a title this year, but then be terrible for the next 10

[td4mvp2k]

omg kbd

[SPURt]

Keldon is looking good, he’s 3 ball is for real.

[poopbox]

We already getting killed on the boards:rollin

[baseline bum]

We're all joking... but is Wemby so good that most fans would rather have him than a fluke 'chip?

Asked another way. Would you rather:

1) Draft Wemby
2) Win a title this year, but then be terrible for the next 10

Probably draft Wemby since option #2 would require nuclear holocaust killing the top 27 or so teams in the league.

[SPURt]

We're all joking... but is Wemby so good that most fans would rather have him than a fluke 'chip?

Asked another way. Would you rather:

1) Draft Wemby
2) Win a title this year, but then be terrible for the next 10
If this team wins a title, then some players would’ve taken some serious steps forward. I don’t think they’d be terrible for another 10 years after. But it’s Wemby or bust at this point.

[BillMc]

Devin and KJ look great/ Jakob good. No one else impressed.

[PhantomDashCam]

2 man game between KJ and Dev has been fun to watch. :tu

[Dejounte]

Lol like I said in another thread a few weeks ago. Keldon is an all star this year.

[John B]

Man Sochan looks good defensively. He just needs to hit those outside shots.

[John B]

I think will see a more competitive game as the 2nd to last Pre-Season game. I would suspect Spurs will have the same starters at the openning.

[Leetonidas]

Sochan defense :tu

Sochan offense :td:td

[scott]

I think will see a more competitive game as the 2nd to last Pre-Season game. I would suspect Spurs will have the same starters at the openning.

I am excited at the prospect of Sochan being a day 1 starter, but honestly I haven't seen anything from him this pre-season to say he is deserving. Do believe we should just commit now though.

[Dejounte]

Keldon’s lateral quickness on display with his defense on Clarkson

[lefty20]

KJ with that scream :lol

He's ready for the season.

[John B]

I am excited at the prospect of Sochan being a day 1 starter, but honestly I haven't seen anything from him this pre-season to say he is deserving. Do believe we should just commit now though.

Agree. It's developing him that's a priority and I think he's mature enough to adapt and adjust.

[John B]

Devin Vassell 22 pts!!!

[PhantomDashCam]

KJ moving his feet on perimeter well tonight. He’s been very impressive on both ends.

[heyheymymy]

keldon taking us to geometry class on the math required for that bank to drop

[Leetonidas]

KJ gonna average 23/7 this season

[John B]

keldon taking us to geometry class on the math required for that bank to drop

Hey now that was Devin with the bank shot :lol

[Dejounte]

Hey now that was Devin with the bank shot :lol

Nope, it was Keldon

[John B]

Sochan is so good with offensive put backs

[heyheymymy]

sochan can keep throwing those up till they fall

[Dejounte]

sochan can keep throwing those up till they fall

Yeah, I’m not worried about it one bit. He’ll see his peers making them and he’ll work hard.

[John B]

I think Primo will clean those TO's up as he gets more experience. I rather him taking risks and improving than being complacent.

[PhantomDashCam]

Primo has been very careless with ball. Was a problem his rookie year. Hoping to see some improvement this year. Hopefully just a rhythm thing tonight.

[John B]

Primo for 3!

[John B]

Dieng is such a good passer. Too bad it was a miss

[John B]

I think Primo's handles are getting better, and has more poise.

[John B]

I like those Sochan cuts for the easy dunks

[boutons_deux]

I think Primo will clean those TO's up as he gets more experience. I rather him taking risks and improving than being complacent.

His TOs last year were way too many, throwing the ball to the other team, passing when there was no pass.

[mystargtr34]

Sochans IQ is going to get him 6-8 points a came just off smart cuts to the basket, put backs, filling empty spaces around the basket etc. That’s only if he plays with the starters who will draw defensive attention abs get him the ball in those spots, like Poeltl, Keldon and Devin. He won’t be nearly as effective playin with lesser players imo, not yet anyway.

The swing skill for him will be the 3 ball and if he develops some sort of post game to get a few more baskets.

Defense, passing etc. are already above NBA average.

[John B]

Okay I think it's time for the rookies and opportunities for Langford to show if he's not getting cut.

[John B]

From afar Rudy looks big

[John B]

I hate THT :lmao

[John B]

Rudy looks 20 lbs heavier :lmao

[mystargtr34]

I hate THT :lmao

He has such an ugly game 😂

[John B]

I wish Rudy got traded to a contender and get a chance on a ring, instead of playing for a rebuilding team. I think Hardy will try to trade him and get him a chance. But he got 2 years left on his contract.

[stephen jackson]

Never seen a player get blocked as much as Wesley haha

[heyheymymy]

Walker Kessler the underrated piece in the Gobert trade.

[td4mvp2k]

wesley needs alot of time in the gleague

[mystargtr34]

Walker Kessler has tiny hands for a 7 footer and it’s showed a few times tonight. Great shot blocker though.

[mystargtr34]

Yeah Wesley needs 2 full years in the G league tbh.

[Leetonidas]

Wesley has not looked like an NBA player at all during the preseason

[John B]

Wesley will be okay. What's important is he's not afraid to go to the hole. But yeah he needs seasoning in Austin

[John B]

Barlow for 3pts!

[heyheymymy]

Branham running PG duties

[heyheymymy]

wow Malaki Branham looking like a steal!

[John B]

Rudy showing the Spurs coaches he still got hops :lmao

[Russ]

Wesley has not looked like an NBA player at all during the preseason

Wesley is a fearless aggressive bulldog. You can't teach that.

That said, Branham, may have the best chance to make a long-term impact

[John B]

Man Kessler looks like the second coming of Shaq in there with Spurs defense :lmao

[Ocotillo]

What do they see in Jordan Hall?

[stephen jackson]

Why do athletic bigs always kill us it’s weird

[scott]

Bran's shot is soooooo smooth. Hope he gets some legit heavy bench minutes this season. To me he's the most "ready to play" rookie we've drafted in awhile. I put him ahead of KJ, Dev, Primo and Sochan in terms of ready-to-play.

[John B]

I mean when Langford gets busy, he looks really good

[td4mvp2k]

wow

[Leetonidas]

R:wowme:wow

[lefty20]

Slick feed by Bran

[John B]

I mean Langford got game, but it's his motivation or maybe if he wants to be a part of a rebuilding team.

[John B]

Spurs win!! :flag::flag::flag:

[stephen jackson]

Branham is our calmest and best player after kj and vassal

[Ocotillo]

Spurstalk: Langford is next to be cut

Weiskamp: Hold my beer

[BillMc]

Victory! :flag:

[td4mvp2k]

I mean Langford got game, but it's his motivation or maybe if he wants to be a part of a rebuilding team.
celtics ruined him imo

[ismael-robert]

For the record I never saw romeo being cut. I saw him as a cia pop hiding him and him actually being a good troop doing what he was told and just running offense. Today pop took reins off

[ceperez]

I mean Langford got game, but it's his motivation or maybe if he wants to be a part of a rebuilding team.

He seem to be able to score inside even against Utah's bigs.

Not sure why he's trending to be a bust.

[John B]

He seem to be able to score inside even against Utah's bigs.

Not sure why he's trending to be a bust.

Well it's Langford or KBD. And KBD has shown plenty to deserve the 15th spot. If they could only find a way to trade either McBuckets or JRich before the start of the season :lol

I think Poeltl with a decent contract would be good to help Sochan at 4, while allowing the rest of the team to be more competitive - in a rebuilding sense of course. I still want the Spurs to get top pick :lol

[slick'81]

Vassell is going to he a stud this season

[John B]

Vassell is going to he a stud this season

Join the club :bobo

[slick'81]

Join the club :bobo

already a card carrying member :boboAlways liked the pick

[GAustex]

Sochan has some Kobe in him

Primo in mid season turnover form

[offset formation]

RACE FOR SEIS IS ON MOTHERFUCKERS

Wins? Yes.

[heyheymymy]

Im with you guys in the Vass club and tonight shows why I'm optimistic.

[heyheymymy]

Primo showed some flashes tonight. Really liked what I saw from Dieng and Jones. Can't wait to watch KJ and Vass duo up.

Bran was very solid too.

[rankingtear]

He seem to be able to score inside even against Utah's bigs.

Not sure why he's trending to be a bust.

There is no progress on his shot it looks like and he is 6-4.

[offset formation]

I think Primo will clean those TO's up as he gets more experience. I rather him taking risks and improving than being complacent.

What would make you think that? He's shown the tendency to be very careless with the ball, especially in transition and forced dribble drives to the bucket since day 1.

Sometimes people are whi they are, you know.

[offset formation]

already a card carrying member :boboAlways liked the pick

Same.

[mystargtr34]

Meanwhile Drew Eubanks is a -23 minutes in 6 minutes against the Warriors reserves :lol

[heyheymymy]

haha im watching that game too and Eubanks just left the ball fly through his hands and out of bounds like he had butter fingers

[John B]

What would make you think that? He's shown the tendency to be very careless with the ball, especially in transition and forced dribble drives to the bucket since day 1.

Sometimes people are whi they are, you know.

On the contrary, I see him with better control of the ball. It's his passes that he needs to make strong, crisp passes. But I rather he tries and make mistakes passing the ball right now. He will eventually learn to adjust the timing as he gets more experience. Primo will be okay.

[slick'81]

On the contrary, I see him with better control of the ball. It's his passes that he needs to make strong, crisp passes. But I rather he tries and make mistakes passing the ball right now. He will eventually learn to adjust the timing as he gets more experience. Primo will be okay.

is that you atlSPUR :flag:

[slick'81]

Damn ,jazz already out tanking us

[Atl Spur]

I’m just waiting in the wings…….. primo will be fine bitches! Lol

[offset formation]

On the contrary, I see him with better control of the ball. It's his passes that he needs to make strong, crisp passes. But I rather he tries and make mistakes passing the ball right now. He will eventually learn to adjust the timing as he gets more experience. Primo will be okay.

Passing isn't something one typically does a 180 on. It's about geospatial awareness and processing of others locations in motion. Some people are able to snapshot that in their minds and make the proper feed with the right tempo and location. Others can't. He doesn't process this well. And he never has.

By the way, as for giving him time, that's one reason a few of us are perturbed by the idea of slotting him unto the PG position because it's the one spot on the floor that demands someone be able to do what I described above with the best precision and frequency. Coaches should have him progressing that skill from the wing first then MAYBE try the guard spot.

Also, he's been playing with a ball in his hands since he was like 8. You get a feel for it when you're very young. Or you don't. He hasn't. Also it's noticeably worse when he's not in a set half-court offense. And he's atrocious in traffic.

I'll say again, Sochan is a better passer than Primo. By a mile. Why? Because he's able to process the locations of the people around him on the fly and in motion.

[offset formation]

I’m just waiting in the wings…….. primo will be fine bitches! Lol

Perhaps if he played a different position, as I've been saying since day 1, sure.

[Atl Spur]

Perhaps if he played a different position, as I've been saying since day 1, sure.

Time will tell ……..

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/projectspurs/status/1580042193930457089?s

“Stop the stupid fucking turnovers, Primo!”

[Dejounte]

https://youtu.be/VBP6fvsrQks

Notice again how most of his points came off assisted shots. He takes 1 or 2 dribbles at most. This is how he gets his rhythm best. It’s nothing like Paul George. Hope it continues this way.

[Dejounte]

https://youtu.be/-mrOoDwydGE

Total gamechanger on offense. Probably what’s most impressive was his leadership on the court today. His teammates were matching his energy and they were playing with a purpose.

[John B]

https://youtu.be/VBP6fvsrQks

Notice again how most of his points came off assisted shots. He takes 1 or 2 dribbles at most. This is how he gets his rhythm best. It’s nothing like Paul George. Hope it continues this way.

Motion offense as oppose to iso/hero ball. On the downside, Devin also needs to develop iso game and break defense if he’s going to be a primary/secondary option because that’s what you need in a closer. Right now I don't see him doing that or trying to post any player. If ever Primo is the one who can play iso/post up ala Demar (I think that’s what Pop has in mind giving him the ball and not necessarily playing PG), when they need to score or closing a game. A long way to go.

[John B]

https://youtu.be/-mrOoDwydGE

Total gamechanger on offense. Probably what’s most impressive was his leadership on the court today. His teammates were matching his energy and they were playing with a purpose.

He looks a lot more control, mixing it up but not forcing it. Keldon is growing as an All-Star right before our eyes, and he has the charisma around peers in the league.

[rankingtear]

Man hard to out tank this Jazz they have 15 players no one wants.

[RC_Drunkford]

damn we're not supposed to win games

[The Truth #6]

Highlights suggest some nice synergy with KJ, Devin, and Yak. And maybe, less expectations for Sochan to provide points? But didn’t see the game. Any takeaways, in addition to what Dejounte added?

[Dejounte]

I’ve always said that a team’s ceiling is measured from your top two or three players. When your top two or three are decent, everybody else plays off of that. That’s why I scoff at the statements being made that the whole roster from top to bottom sucks. It doesn’t matter how bad your #4 guy to your #15 guy are. This is not me saying KJ, Vassell, Yak are suddenly top echelon players, but what I am saying is that it’s pointless to make judgments on rotations where the top three guys aren’t playing. This is also me saying that the team doesn’t need a complete rehaul, but only a couple lucky shots at developing/ attaining a franchise cornerstone. They don’t need multiple years of losing seasons. They aren’t that far away. You get one, and another player on the same roster probably rises to the occasion because the first guy unlocked it. Domino effect.

[poopbox]

Jazz losing the battle so they can win the tank war tbh

Vassel might have a breakout year...meaning we will try to lowball him on his contract, he will say no, and get traded in 2 years tbh

[Dejounte]

Motion offense as oppose to iso/hero ball. On the downside, Devin also needs to develop iso game and break defense if he’s going to be a primary/secondary option because that’s what you need in a closer. Right now I don't see him doing that or trying to post any player. If ever Primo is the one who can play iso/post up ala Demar (I think that’s what Pop has in mind giving him the ball and not necessarily playing PG), when they need to score or closing a game. A long way to go.

IMO, you don’t need to fit a square peg into a round hole. We get first round picks every year. It could be any of those guys or someone else from the current roster. Moving Vassell’s role to something that isn’t tailor fit for him (and I get it, it could be developed. But that’s not always the case for everybody) could potentially hamper his development. It’s like if your kid was good at soccer and you’re trying to force him to play baseball. There are legends who made a living off of not being a closer. Vassell can be clutch just by scoring off screens. Ray Allen was at his best when he was the second or third guy. And yes, I imagine there will be plenty of opportunities for him to go ISO this year, but I just doubt it will go anywhere. Klay’s just fine being Klay, he doesn’t need to be the guy that handles the ball like Curry.

[The Truth #6]

It will be interesting to see how Devin progresses and how he focuses his game. I agree that self creation isn’t really where he’s at yet. And like you said, a few dribbles and a pull up seems to be just fine for him. He could be some sort of homeless man’s version of Ray Allen or Reggie Miller running off screens, I could see that working too.

[Atl Spur]

When branham body matures…….. he will be a player. Dude is super nice on the court!!

[ginobilized]

The togetherness of the young pups is awesome.
So much communication and strong leadership on the squad.
They will lose plenty of games, no doubt.
KJ and Vassell really complement each other and make other player's roles more clear.
Really nice to see this. Also, must remember the opponent. Might be the worst team in the league. Gotta celebrate the positives when they happen, nonetheless.

[rjv]

Jazz losing the battle so they can win the tank war tbh

Vassel might have a breakout year...meaning we will try to lowball him on his contract, he will say no, and get traded in 2 years tbh

hornets are going to try to sneak in there as well.

[KingKev]

hornets are going to try to sneak in there as well.

No Lamelo to start the season either so a very winnable game we’d like to lose. Not a chance that FRP conveys in 2023.

[rjv]

No Lamelo to start the season either so a very winnable game we’d like to lose. Not a chance that FRP conveys in 2023.

soon to be convicted felon, miles bridges, sealed their fate. and now, your airness wants to make his team relevant again. it's a guaranteed tank.

[cd98]

When branham body matures…….. he will be a player. Dude is super nice on the court!!

Yes, but he gets lost on defense a lot. I am nervous that he will never play enough defense to get on the floor.

[Mr. Body]

What hurts Charlotte, too... other than the fact LaMello is pretty lazy and not actually that competitive... is that they fired Borrego, who is a good coach, in good part because he didn't play their two rookies. Really their roster is kind of bad, and those two rookies in Kai Jones and Boukknight didn't deserve playing time at all. They look very very far from being NBA players.

[Atl Spur]

Yes, but he gets lost on defense a lot. I am nervous that he will never play enough defense to get on the floor.

Brother this is year one……. He reminds me of a Bradley Beale type.

[TD 21]

hornets are going to try to sneak in there as well.

Right now, I have a feeling they're going to "win" the sweepstakes.

The old school trio of Jordan, Kupchak, Clifford, might not engage in new age midseason tanking shenanigans (which could help one's cause), but this is still setting up as a disastrous season as is so as to have a decent enough chance that if the league rigs it for them, it won't seem unbelievable.