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timvp

10-31-2022, 06:38 PM

:depressed

At least it's not an ACL.

Das Texan

10-31-2022, 06:38 PM

:depressed

At least it's not an ACL.

fuck

Mr. Body

10-31-2022, 06:39 PM

Not great. But could be worse. Damn it. Let's see Romeo and Branham.

Leetonidas

10-31-2022, 06:39 PM

:pctoss

Sucks. Him stepping into the fire and taking over the backup PG duties was gonna be an awesome storyline to follow. But at least it's not more serious

lefty20

10-31-2022, 06:39 PM

Oh shit...

https://www.kens5.com/article/sports/nba/spurs/spurs-107-timberwolves-98-what-said-after-game-nba-san-antonio/273-a748ebaf-f009-4799-85c6-635b0a95db43

Here I was excited about the MRI report in that article.

:pctoss

BacktoBasics

10-31-2022, 06:40 PM

2-3 months isn’t all that bad. At least he didn’t lose his season.

mystargtr34

10-31-2022, 06:41 PM

Fark. Thought I read an hour ago that the MRI came back negative.

Mr. Body

10-31-2022, 06:42 PM

:pctoss

Sucks. Him stepping into the fire and taking over the backup PG duties was gonna be an awesome storyline to follow. But at least it's not more serious

If he can get it healthy and stable, he'll still have half a season or so to play.

Russ

10-31-2022, 06:42 PM

Not a good injury for a guy who depends on speed.

But he'll probably come back good as ever.

Ariel

10-31-2022, 06:42 PM

F*ck. Get well soon Blake.

Chinook

10-31-2022, 06:44 PM

Yep signing another PG. Can't afford for Tre to get hurt or be revealed to be a predator at this point.

Ice009

10-31-2022, 06:50 PM

:pctoss

Sucks. Him stepping into the fire and taking over the backup PG duties was gonna be an awesome storyline to follow. But at least it's not more serious

Yeah, this fucking sucks. I was so happy to see him play. Could've been a lot worse, but 2 months still sucks.

T Park

10-31-2022, 06:53 PM

Is there any veteran point guards sitting around worth a damn? They have an open roster spot obviously.

timtonymanu

10-31-2022, 06:54 PM

Bad luck lately

MultiTroll

10-31-2022, 06:56 PM

Could anyone on ST play backup PG.

Do Spurs ever hold open tryouts?

TD 21

10-31-2022, 06:57 PM

Never fails.

Ariel

10-31-2022, 06:58 PM

Maybe we should have kept Kennedy Chandler for ourselves, we were already thin at PG even when Primo hadn't been exposed

RC_Drunkford

10-31-2022, 07:02 PM

just when he got some playing time. Hopefully Branham gets his minutes

BackHome

10-31-2022, 07:20 PM

Damn this team is cursed

Uriel

10-31-2022, 07:23 PM

So we lose our backup PG as well as the backup to our backup PG.

Atl Spur

10-31-2022, 07:26 PM

Yep signing another PG. Can't afford for Tre to get hurt or be revealed to be a predator at this point.

What the hell? Hell naw!!

spurs1990

10-31-2022, 07:26 PM

Langford runs backup point. Branham gets thrown in fire for next two months. High hopes for Wesley

spurraider21

10-31-2022, 07:31 PM

Is there any veteran point guards sitting around worth a damn? They have an open roster spot obviously.
TJ Ford?

drpill

10-31-2022, 07:42 PM

Brutal. I could see this giving Keldon a chance to work on his point skills a lil bit. Heavy minutes for Tre, and when he needs to sit, let other guys (KJ, Richardson, Sochan, Langford, etc) bring the ball up and initiate the offense?

Robz4000

10-31-2022, 07:42 PM

Westbrick trade incoming.

GAustex

10-31-2022, 07:43 PM

Get better
Come back stronger
Bravery in the face of adversity
You can do it

DAF86

10-31-2022, 07:44 PM

The basketball flying spaghetti monster wants us to tank, tbh.

Allan Rowe vs Wade

10-31-2022, 08:18 PM

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/8f/1f/25/8f1f2564668ef2b6e7d457e48deea02f.jpg

Spurs Homer

10-31-2022, 08:29 PM

The tank for the Wember is strong….

BackHome

10-31-2022, 08:32 PM

If he can get it healthy and stable, he'll still have half a season or so to play.

Keep him in G league don't mess with our Tanking

CGD

10-31-2022, 08:32 PM

Damn, was hoping to see him. Hope they don’t panic and sign a PG vet

BackHome

10-31-2022, 08:33 PM

BatManu20

10-31-2022, 10:07 PM

Tank’s back on boys

https://media.tenor.com/07CthWBxpWkAAAAd/tank.gif

emanueldavidginobili

10-31-2022, 10:22 PM

Sucks. But he escaped a major injury. I thought it was an ACL tear. Still sucks but happy it wasn’t that.

barakz21

10-31-2022, 10:34 PM

I see we need a backup PG. We already have one, just waiting to be snapped up.

He goes by the name “Brodie”

ducks

10-31-2022, 10:40 PM

Bad luck lately

Do not need luck to most keeping dick in pants

Amuseddaysleeper

10-31-2022, 10:40 PM

We need the #1 pick on the draft

Ice009

10-31-2022, 11:27 PM

How bad is an MCL injury? Is he going to lose any athleticism? Will this heal OK? Does it need surgery?

Ed Helicopter Jones

10-31-2022, 11:36 PM

Westbrick trade incoming.

That would guarantee that top 4 pick so many people are craving.

Dex

11-01-2022, 08:29 AM

That would guarantee that top 4 pick so many people are craving.

But then we would have to cheer for Westbrook :vomit:

rjv

11-01-2022, 10:07 AM

Could anyone on ST play backup PG.

Do Spurs ever hold open tryouts?

not only are there tons of PGs on this site, there are also tons of coaches and GMs.

Ariel

11-01-2022, 10:16 AM

not only are there tons of PGs on this site, there are also tons of coaches and GMs.
And self-appointed advocates and PR staff as well.

exstatic

11-01-2022, 10:35 AM

But then we would have to cheer for Westbrook :vomit:

To everyone worried about Westbrook playing here:

Westbrook would never play one minute here. They would explore a buyout,but would release him regardless. The salary is immaterial, since we are way below the cap, and would have to pay out to the players to hit minimum salary anyway.

The Truth #6

11-01-2022, 10:37 AM

Horrible timing for Blake but it’s a long season. More minutes for other youngins.

Ariel

11-01-2022, 10:38 AM

Actually this team may be kind of the ideal destination for Westbrook: devoid of a PG, with plenty of shooters and team oriented players around. But yeah, rehabilitating his career is not a priority, if he ends up a Spur I don't expect him to play one minute, he's not someone you want your youngsters to look up to.

couchman

11-01-2022, 10:48 AM

Bummer timing for Blake.
He will still get a lot of run later in the season as a backup PG but this time RIGHT NOW would have been gold for him.

Crazy to think that Westbrook would look much better with the Spurs, but he would.
He needs shooting around him to unlock whatever game he has left.
Still not worth giving him any playing time of course... hahahha

BillMc

11-01-2022, 11:08 AM

timvp

11-01-2022, 11:42 AM

How bad is an MCL injury? Is he going to lose any athleticism? Will this heal OK? Does it need surgery?

I agree with Ice. I'd like to see this question answered, if anyone has an idea about if it will affect his athleticism. Thanks.

When it comes to knee injuries, a torn MCL is regarded as relatively minor. ACL, LCL and PCL tears would all be worse. Cartilage/meniscus damage is worse. Patella or patellar tendon damage is worse. A torn MCL is pretty bad but it usually doesn't require surgery and is rarely career threatening or career altering. Athletes are basically cleared to play once the stability of the knee is sufficient and pain has subsided. You can even play through a torn MCL (IIRC, Tom Brady and Dwight Howard played through torn MCLs) if you wear a brace and can deal with the pain.

With the way Wesley went down, an MCL injury is one of the better outcomes. Still bad and sometimes it can linger but far from the worse. The Spurs might sit Wesley for the rest of the season since he's so young and so dependant on his elite athleticism just to play it safe -- but chances are he'll be back at some point in January.

BillMc

11-01-2022, 11:44 AM

When it comes to knee injuries, a torn MCL is regarded as relatively minor. ACL, LCL and PCL tears would all be worse. Cartilage/meniscus damage is worse. Patella or patellar tendon damage is worse. A torn MCL is pretty bad but it usually doesn't require surgery and is rarely career threatening or career altering. Athletes are basically cleared to play once the stability of the knee is sufficient and pain has subsided. You can even play through a torn MCL (IIRC, Tom Brady and Dwight Howard played through torn MCLs) if you wear a brace and can deal with the pain.

With the way Wesley went down, an MCL injury is one of the better outcomes. Still bad and sometimes it can linger but far from the worse. The Spurs might sit Wesley for the rest of the season since he's so young and so dependant on his elite athleticism just to play it safe -- but chances are he'll be back at some point in January.

Many thanks!:toast I know they'll be cautious, but hope to see him again this season.

MannyIsGod

11-01-2022, 11:45 AM

I knew it was bad when someone posted that IG story yesterday but this is definitely best case scenario after that.

chunticakes

11-01-2022, 12:55 PM

So are we tanking or nah?

Ice009

11-01-2022, 08:47 PM

I agree with Ice. I'd like to see this question answered, if anyone has an idea about if it will affect his athleticism. Thanks.

Thanks for also asking the question as I was quite devastated for him when it happened. I was so excited to see him play, but devastated to see this setback after it was announced what the injury was.

When it comes to knee injuries, a torn MCL is regarded as relatively minor. ACL, LCL and PCL tears would all be worse. Cartilage/meniscus damage is worse. Patella or patellar tendon damage is worse. A torn MCL is pretty bad but it usually doesn't require surgery and is rarely career threatening or career altering. Athletes are basically cleared to play once the stability of the knee is sufficient and pain has subsided. You can even play through a torn MCL (IIRC, Tom Brady and Dwight Howard played through torn MCLs) if you wear a brace and can deal with the pain.

With the way Wesley went down, an MCL injury is one of the better outcomes. Still bad and sometimes it can linger but far from the worse. The Spurs might sit Wesley for the rest of the season since he's so young and so dependant on his elite athleticism just to play it safe -- but chances are he'll be back at some point in January.

Thanks a lot for the very detailed explanation. I really wish it didn't happen as he was already looking good. I hope he comes back 100% this season and plays. I can't remember the play, but was there direct contact that led to the injury, or did it happen on it's own?

lefty20

11-01-2022, 08:53 PM

I can't remember the play, but was there direct contact that led to the injury, or did it happen on it's own?

Contact injury. He took Gobert's(i think) knee to the side of his knee and it hyper extended.

exstatic

11-01-2022, 08:53 PM

Thanks for also asking the question as I was quite devastated for him when it happened. I was so excited to see him play, but devastated to see this setback after it was announced what the injury was.

Thanks a lot for the very detailed explanation. I really wish it didn't happen as he was already looking good. I hope he comes back 100% this season and plays. I can't remember the play, but was there direct contact that led to the injury, or did it happen on it's own?

He hyperextended it, went back down the floor for defense, but immediately asked out of the game, and hobbled straight down the middle of the court into the tunnel on his way to the locker room.

Ice009

11-01-2022, 08:56 PM

Contact injury. He took Gobert's(i think) knee to the side of his knee and it hyper extended.

Thanks. I am guessing it's always better if it was due to contact rather than it happening on it's own, right? I recall Kawhi's ACL happening without any contact.

He hyperextended it, went back down the floor for defense, but immediately asked out of the game, and hobbled straight down the middle of the court into the tunnel on his way to the locker room.

Right, thanks for description. I still feel bad for the kid. I hope he is back strong this season. I'd hate to see all his hard work and momentum he had going to waste over this injury this season :(. Get well soon, Blake.

timvp

11-01-2022, 08:57 PM

I can't remember the play, but was there direct contact that led to the injury, or did it happen on it's own?

https://twitter.com/twoshotspodcast/status/1586870559450828800

He got hit right when he planted so he's pretty lucky it wasn't worse.

Ice009

11-01-2022, 08:59 PM

Darn, could have been a lot worse. Crappy freak injury from the looks of it. Like you guys said, lucky it wasn't worse. I am happy it wasn't worse looking at that.

timtonymanu

11-01-2022, 09:33 PM

Dude was already looking a lot better than Primo too

timvp

11-02-2022, 11:58 AM

So hearing official diagnosis is sprained MCL instead of a torn MCL. Might not be a huge difference but that's better and could be why Spurs didn't sign another PG :tu

John B

11-02-2022, 12:08 PM

So hearing official diagnosis is sprained MCL instead of a torn MCL. Might not be a huge difference but that's better and could be why Spurs didn't sign another PG :tu

:clap:clap:clap So he could be back sooner??

timvp

11-02-2022, 12:10 PM

:clap:clap:clap So he could be back sooner??

Don't know. Unless I've missed it, I haven't seen a timetable given by the Spurs at all yet. I think two months was if it was torn but I'm not sure.

NickiRasgo

11-02-2022, 12:24 PM

I don't mind him returning later rather than sooner but good to hear that it's only sprained and not torn, assuming the report is already official.
Usually, I think players having injury with a "torn" kinda affects them mentally so it affects their athleticism a bit. The fear of being injured again esp. in the same body and quite understandable. Not all players have the same mental capacity in regaining back their confidence coming from an injury.

Vince Carter's ankle

11-02-2022, 12:39 PM

:clap:clap:clap So he could be back sooner??
A productive and long career is more important than getting into the all rookie team.
There is no need to force anything, and it is better to wait for a full recovery.

Das Texan

11-02-2022, 12:49 PM

Just add on at least 2 weeks to however long it takes to recover at a minimum to the time Wesley is out.

NickiRasgo

11-02-2022, 01:12 PM

Nevermind. It's still tear.

Upon searching, a Grade 3 Sprain is aka as complete tear of ligament.

Thread:

1587558770627911680

spurraider21

11-02-2022, 01:13 PM

the timing of this injury really sucks, but i still remember how brutal dejounte's preseason ACL injury was

BackHome

11-02-2022, 01:15 PM

The biggest issue is one of his weak points was ability to finish at the rim with this it’s going to take awhile to get over the mental challenge of a possible re injury. Spurs will definitely hit the breaks with him when he comes back no need to force things the injury is a step back but hopefully just temporary

timvp

11-02-2022, 01:17 PM

Nevermind. It's still tear.

Upon searching, a Grade 3 Sprain is aka as complete tear of ligament.

Thread:

1587558770627911680

Ah, so yeah, still looking at ~2 months.

The Truth #6

11-02-2022, 01:41 PM

Sucks but could be worse. Hopefully he sits in with the coaches, practices his jump shot and other things he could benefit from working on, if able.

XDT76

11-02-2022, 02:52 PM

Nevermind. It's still tear.

Upon searching, a Grade 3 Sprain is aka as complete tear of ligament.

Thread:

1587558770627911680

Yeah I was confused previously when my doctor told I got a sprain and then later got a tear. He later told me that in medical term a sprain in the ligament is a tear.

Vince Carter's ankle

11-14-2022, 04:18 AM

https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Spurs-rookie-Blake-Wesley-begins-rehab-17581625.php

Blake Wesley said he’s started rehabbing after suffering a knee injury that threatens to keep him off the court until late December or possibly early January.

“It’s going good,” he said in the locker room before Friday’s win over Milwaukee.

“I’ve started jogging, lifting and getting my routine back," he added. "I’m on the court, not moving, but getting up shots and taking it day by day.”

The 25th overall selection of the 2022 NBA Draft says he's kept his spirits up through prayer and conversations with his parents, who are visiting San Antonio from South Bend, Ind.

Wesley said it was a “blessing” his injury didn’t require surgery.

“When it happened, I thought I was going to have to have surgery,” he said. “I’m glad that didn’t happen.”

John B

11-14-2022, 05:05 AM

Ice009

11-14-2022, 08:29 AM

I was so excited when I saw him play that first game and seeing him do well. I wish him a super faster recovery and hope he's back sooner than later. I really want him to be healthy and play this season.

Mr. Body

11-14-2022, 08:41 AM

Good opportunity to just work on his shot, maybe even his handles.

lefty20

12-07-2022, 10:10 PM

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slick'81

12-07-2022, 10:39 PM

Gonna be great getting these young guys minutes

John B

12-08-2022, 01:38 AM

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Nice to see him back and should start taking that PG minutes soon. I’m really nit down with signing AI. I rather our youngsters step up to fill the score boards, Malaki, Collins, Bassey, Toby, Langford and soon Blake.

emanueldavidginobili

12-08-2022, 07:09 PM

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playbonner15

12-08-2022, 07:31 PM

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This is good news! I feel like the team gets energized with his quickness whenever Pop subs him in

John B

12-09-2022, 01:07 AM

This is good news! I feel like the team gets energized with his quickness whenever Pop subs him in

I want Blake back, but I don’t want the team energized and causing some costly wins :lol

KingKev

12-09-2022, 11:40 AM

I want Blake back, but I don’t want the team energized and causing some costly wins :lol

Doubt he adds to winning but he'll at least be fun to watch!

The Truth #6

12-10-2022, 11:55 AM

Yeah, Blake’s lack of shooting is not pushing the needle towards any wins, but hopefully he gets experience. He and Sochan splitting time at point guard should be a developmental priority.

JeffDuncan

12-10-2022, 03:09 PM

Yeah, Blake’s lack of shooting ...

He has a TS% of .743 and an eFG% of .778.

The Truth #6

12-10-2022, 05:40 PM

He has a TS% of .743 and an eFG% of .778.

Jump shooting.

ace3g

12-13-2022, 09:17 PM

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Tom Orsborn Tom_orsborn
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In a sign Blake Wesley could be making his return soon after being sidelined since late October with an MCL sprain, #Spurs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Spurs) have assigned him to Austin along with fellow rookie guard Malaki Branham.They are expected to return to the Spurs for Wednesday's game vs. Portland.

Mr. Body

12-13-2022, 10:43 PM

I don't get the point of assigning them to Austin just to yank them back tomorrow. Get them practice driving?

rankingtear

12-13-2022, 11:34 PM

I don't get the point of assigning them to Austin just to yank them back tomorrow. Get them practice driving?

Austin has practice scheduled today, main club don't.

rjv

12-14-2022, 10:47 AM

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Tom Orsborn (https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn)Tom (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=9287)_orsborn
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In a sign Blake Wesley could be making his return soon after being sidelined since late October with an MCL sprain, #Spurs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Spurs) have assigned him to Austin along with fellow rookie guard Malaki Branham.They are expected to return to the Spurs for Wednesday's game vs. Portland.

sounds like he's really making great progress. good to hear.

tim_duncan_fan

12-14-2022, 01:20 PM

Thank goodness. Get back soon, rook!

SpurSpike

12-14-2022, 02:04 PM

I want Blake back, but I don’t want the team energized and causing some costly wins :lol

Well the Spurs where doing pretty good before losing Wesley and Primo...

John B

12-14-2022, 05:25 PM

Well the Spurs where doing pretty good before losing Wesley and Primo...

Blake plays hard and sometimes that’s what it takes to get others started

heyheymymy

12-14-2022, 06:04 PM

Can't wait for this return.

Blake needs mins to polish skills

Maddog

12-14-2022, 07:05 PM

Per report
Will play in Mexico City game

John B

12-16-2022, 03:45 PM

Blake Wesley and Malaki Branham have been assigned to the Austin Spurs and, along with Dominick Barlow, will be available for tonight’s game in Mexico City!

Can’t wait to see this guy play with the big club again and getting the experience.

exstatic

12-16-2022, 03:48 PM

BackHome

12-16-2022, 10:02 PM

Yeah, both played poorly against Mexico they definitely need to spend way more time in Austin

ace3g

12-16-2022, 11:53 PM

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Tom Orsborn Tom_orsborn
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Blake Wesley said his knee held up fine in limited action tonight due to a minutes restriction.He said he'll be headed to Vegas soon for a few games at the G League Winter Showcase before rejoining the Spurs in either New Orleans or Orlando later next week.

John B

12-17-2022, 08:51 AM

Both he and Malaki really need reps with the baby Spurs.

Agree. I’m just happy that Blake is back. I read that he put it about 6 lbs of muscle. He needs to learn to finish around the rim and getting stronger should help.

While Malaki needs to get it going. He got great form but lacks confidence and aggressiveness (something Blake I’m not worried about). I liked it that they were giving him PG minutes and that could get him going with the ball in his hand instead of passively waiting for catch and shoot. I think it helped Lonnie somewhat when they tried to make him a facilitator. It wasn’t a natural fit but I think it helped his confidence somewhat. I’m hoping Malaki just learn to trust his shooters touch (while even missing). Just keep shooting, and moving without the ball.

emanueldavidginobili

12-17-2022, 12:06 PM

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Finished with 12 points on 4-9 shooting in 19 minutes.

BackHome

12-17-2022, 08:58 PM

Blake is doing that sticking he leg out when jump shooting he needs to correct that or he is going to get another injury

John B

12-19-2022, 01:38 AM

Blake is doing that sticking he leg out when jump shooting he needs to correct that or he is going to get another injury

Players purposely extend their leg to foulbait though

tim_duncan_fan

12-19-2022, 11:52 AM

I can't wait for Blake to get back to the big club. This team needs some attitude and self-confidence so badly. And not like fake IG confidence, but real self-assuredness.

exstatic

12-19-2022, 02:31 PM

I can't wait for Blake to get back to the big club. This team needs some attitude and self-confidence so badly. And not like fake IG confidence, but real self-assuredness.

You want us to win? Because I’d just as soon he stay in Austin for a month or so.

Seventyniner

12-19-2022, 02:33 PM

Blake is doing that sticking he leg out when jump shooting he needs to correct that or he is going to get another injury

Didn't Dejounte do the same thing? And wasn't it gone by the time he came back from the torn ACL?

I'm basing this on memory so I might be way off.

Maddog

12-19-2022, 02:48 PM

I can't wait for Blake to get back to the big club. This team needs some attitude and self-confidence so badly. And not like fake IG confidence, but real self-assuredness.

Somewhat torn on that- really like to see him in the bigs- but long term may be best to stay in Austin a while. He's got talents that can't be taught- but definitely has holes in his game that can be potentially corrected.

tim_duncan_fan

12-19-2022, 03:24 PM

You want us to win? Because I’d just as soon he stay in Austin for a month or so.

Our guys can't rebound or defend. Tim wouldn't win. It's more about just seeing him get some burn and seeing someone with some moxie, even as we lose.

Somewhat torn on that- really like to see him in the bigs- but long term may be best to stay in Austin a while. He's got talents that can't be taught- but definitely has holes in his game that can be potentially corrected.

He's like ten years old. I'd watch him play out his mistakes in San Antonio, but the arguments to leave him in Austin are fair.

Ocotillo

12-20-2022, 01:34 PM

https://sports.yahoo.com/spurs-rookie-blake-wesley-nears-175941008.html

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/qBdxusgp1p5Pno_g2MGRWA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTQ3MA--/https://media.zenfs.com/en/rookie_wire_usa_today_sports_articles_968/4f58e137411881abcf6c52a6d77d3a8c

Wesley produced 19 points, three assists, two steals and one blocked shot in the 127-107 loss at the G League Winter Showcase in Las Vegas, Nevada. He went 5-of-16 from the field and 5-of-6 from the free-throw line in 24 minutes.

Mr. Body

12-20-2022, 01:56 PM

Great to see him back.

spurraider21

12-20-2022, 03:14 PM

his shooting efficiency has been ridiculously poor, but at least with the big boys he wont be asked to play that kind of role to be the do-it-all guy on offense. i love that they see him as a PG

Mr. Body

12-20-2022, 04:19 PM

his shooting efficiency has been ridiculously poor, but at least with the big boys he wont be asked to play that kind of role to be the do-it-all guy on offense. i love that they see him as a PG

It's the reason why many teams shied away from him. A lot of it is shot selection -- knowing what is a good shot or not -- but he's also erratic in his release. He rarely shoots the same way every time.

The Truth #6

12-20-2022, 05:16 PM

Poor form. Poor touch. But I do really want him to succeed. I like his attitude and hope he can make it work. He has a lot of great traits.

BackHome

12-20-2022, 06:02 PM

Yeah he has the right attitude and he has elite athleticism he just needs to work on the basics one of the things he definitely needs to stop is kicking his one leg out when jump shooting. He is a raw player but definitely the type of player you want to put time in investing in

BacktoBasics

12-20-2022, 06:18 PM

BackHome

12-20-2022, 08:00 PM

I think if you surrounded him with some shooters he would be very good he has the ability to beat his man sometimes pretty easily so if you do not clog the paint he can easily do damage.

Mr. Body

12-21-2022, 10:25 AM

A couple things I noticed after watching him play and some of the takes here seem a bit off.

I think he has decent touch in and around the basket just not good shooting mechanics or a good shooter.

I don’t think he’s an elite athlete but he has elite intangibles and potentially elite defense.

Kinda seems a little bit more athletic than say Magic Johnson who was arguably more athletic than he looked. Size and PG mind frame seem good in that same regard.

He doesn’t need to be a good shooter. Just a serviceable one. He could be a better version of Ben Simmons and as of right now he’s not afraid to shoot like Ben is.

He could be a game changer while only averaging 12-14. In 2 years we’ll see a significantly better shooter.

He'll definitely be a vastly better shooter than Ben Simmons, who isn't even close to serviceable. Wesley has a lot of capacity and could become a good to very good shooter.

He is an elite athlete as far as burst and speed goes -- he quite easily blows by players. He does not have elite vertical pop, which is what people sometimes think is the only aspect of athleticism. He could be one of the fastest players in the league, potentially.

exstatic

12-21-2022, 11:22 AM

He'll definitely be a vastly better shooter than Ben Simmons, who isn't even close to serviceable. Wesley has a lot of capacity and could become a good to very good shooter.

He is an elite athlete as far as burst and speed goes -- he quite easily blows by players. He does not have elite vertical pop, which is what people sometimes think is the only aspect of athleticism. He could be one of the fastest players in the league, potentially.

So, from an athleticism standpoint, sort of like Parker? Great horizontally, average vertically?

Mr. Body

12-21-2022, 11:26 AM

So, from an athleticism standpoint, sort of like Parker? Great horizontally, average vertically?

I was going to mention Parker. They're a bit different in their speed, but yeah. In fact, Sochan's athleticism is sort of horizontal more than vertical, too. I'd say Sochan has great lateral and sorta omni-lateral movement and shifting. From what I've seen, Wesley is sort of bull-ahead without a lot of swivel (yet), but has elite burst and stride. Parker was sort of more controlled and circuitous in his open-court quickness and sort of did it from a standstill.

rjv

12-21-2022, 11:57 AM

I was going to mention Parker. They're a bit different in their speed, but yeah. In fact, Sochan's athleticism is sort of horizontal more than vertical, too. I'd say Sochan has great lateral and sorta omni-lateral movement and shifting. From what I've seen, Wesley is sort of bull-ahead without a lot of swivel (yet), but has elite burst and stride. Parker was sort of more controlled and circuitous in his open-court quickness and sort of did it from a standstill.

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The Truth #6

12-21-2022, 02:03 PM

Mr. Body

12-21-2022, 02:13 PM

Some good thoughts here. To clarify my point, his shooting form is awkward, including his stance. Lacks vertical pop which could be why he appears to have challenges at the rim, going back to college, which is what I simplified into “poor touch”.

But long arms, great instincts, gets in passing lanes, already showing good pnr and passing IQ. Tenacious. If he and Sochan both figure out their jump shots, they will be a great part of our future, at least for their infectious energy.

Some video around draft time from a guy much smarter than me pointed out a major reason why Wesley is so bad around the rim -- he takes off way too soon. It's true, you see it all the time. He takes off and glides toward the hoop. If there's any resistance, he's already under the rim and easily gets swatted.

Solutions include: recognizing when shotblockers are coming over, learn to create contact for fouls, learn to take off much closer to the rim so he doesn't lose elevation, or most likely start learning a floater. If he doesn't take off too soon/distant, he has a lot more options.

Ed Helicopter Jones

12-21-2022, 04:14 PM

You want us to win? Because I’d just as soon he stay in Austin for a month or so.

My thoughts too. With all three of our first round picks showing some good promise, this team might win a lot of games down the stretch when other coaches and players have thrown in the towel. Play-in tournament in here we come.

Mr. Body

12-21-2022, 04:32 PM

My thoughts too. With all three of our first round picks showing some good promise, this team might win a lot of games down the stretch when other coaches and players have thrown in the towel. Play-in tournament in here we come.

To me it's inevitable.

exstatic

12-21-2022, 09:41 PM

To me it's inevitable.

Like 10 days ago, we had the 4th worst NBA net rating of all time. We could go all in, fuck up our draft position some, but there is no way in hell we make the play in. Pop continues to hold out players for untied shoelaces, or a hang nail. The tank is on.

Mr. Body

12-21-2022, 10:04 PM

Like 10 days ago, we had the 4th worst NBA net rating of all time. We could go all in, fuck up our draft position some, but there is no way in hell we make the play in. Pop continues to hold out players for untied shoelaces, or a hang nail. The tank is on.

Yeah, I kind of believe there's a secret sabotage going on. But I don't know if they'll super-tank like some teams will. I don't think the Spurs are as shitty as they were in that bad patch, but then there was a lot of suspicious DNPs.

ace3g

12-21-2022, 10:09 PM

MIN

FG

3PT

FT

OREB

DREB

REB

AST

STL

BLK

TO

PF

+/-

PTS

25
10-16
2-2
0-0
6
3
9
3
1
1
2
4
-6
22

28
4-14
0-4
1-1
2
7
9
2
0
1
0
3
-11
10

26
2-9
0-2
1-1
4
11
15
2
0
1
2
2
-10
6

25
4-9
3-5
0-0
1
2
3
1
0
0
4
4
+1
11

22
5-15
2-6
1-1
0
1
1
2
1
1
0
1
-4
13

Wesley 5-15, 2-6 from 3; 13 points currently

Herd vs. Spurs - NBA G League Box Score - December 21, 2022 | ESPN (https://www.espn.com/nba-g-league/boxscore/_/gameId/401500534)

Mr. Body

12-21-2022, 10:12 PM

ace3g

12-22-2022, 01:02 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1595686880061931522/zNii9SYV_normal.jpg
Tom Orsborn Tom_orsborn
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Spurs will be recalling rookie guard Blake Wesley today after his stint with the Austin Spurs. He’ll be inactive tonight but could see action Friday night in Orlando. If so, it would be his first with the Spurs since he injured his knee in late October.

emanueldavidginobili

12-23-2022, 01:53 PM

He’s officially available for tonight’s game against the Magic.

spurraider21

12-23-2022, 02:26 PM

in summer league and now gleague, spurs have been giving Wesley the "go do everything on offense for us" role and its painfully clear he's not good enough for that. but in his limited action with the big boys, and a much more contained role, he looked reasonable

with Jones still having the starting role and Sochan/Richardson both up to the task to handle some backup duty, they dont have to thrust Wesley into anything he isn't ready for. ideally we find a suitor for Richardson and allow Wesley/Sochan to share those backup PG minutes

ace3g

12-23-2022, 06:21 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1595686880061931522/zNii9SYV_normal.jpg (https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn)Tom Orsborn (https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn)@tom_orsborn (https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn)

Blake Wesley is here in Orlando, but he won’t be available tonight. Basically a numbers game in that the Spurs need more bigs against Magic.

4:44pm · 23 Dec 2022 (https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1606420600813195272) · Twitter for iPhone (https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/how-to-tweet#source-labels)

ace3g

12-29-2022, 11:06 PM

AUSTIN SPURS

PLAYER
POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS

Chaundee Brown Jr. (https://gleague.nba.com/player/1630602/chaundee-brown-jr)
SF
-
4-13
0-4
1-1
-1
1
3
4
0
4
0
1
0
0
10

Alize Johnson (https://gleague.nba.com/player/1628993/alize-johnson)
PF
-
7-9
0-1
2-2
4
3
18
21
0
1
0
4
0
0
18

Charles Bassey (https://gleague.nba.com/player/1629646/charles-bassey)
C
-
6-12
1-4
1-1
4
4
5
9
2
0
1
2
3
0
15

Jordan Hall (https://gleague.nba.com/player/1631160/jordan-hall)
SG
-
2-10
1-7
1-1
-10
1
0
1
1
2
2
3
0
0
7

Blake Wesley (https://gleague.nba.com/player/1631104/blake-wesley)
PG
-
7-16
4-5
2-4
-6
0
2
2
1
2
0
2
0
0
21

Tommy Kuhse (https://gleague.nba.com/player/1631339/tommy-kuhse)
-
-
5-12
1-4
0-0
11
2
1
3
3
1
1
0
0
0
11

Denzel Mahoney (https://gleague.nba.com/player/1630778/denzel-mahoney)
-
-
0-3
0-3
0-2
4
0
1
1
1
2
1
0
0
0
0

Jordan Murphy (https://gleague.nba.com/player/1629818/jordan-murphy)
-
-
2-6
1-2
2-2
-1
4
4
8
0
2
0
1
1
0
9

Dominick Barlow (https://gleague.nba.com/player/1631230/dominick-barlow)
-
-
5-8
0-0
1-1
-1
2
1
3
0
0
1
3
1
0
12

Justin Kier (https://gleague.nba.com/player/1641505/justin-kier)
-
-
1-4
1-2
1-1
11
0
2
2
3
1
2
1
0
0
5

Jalen Adaway (https://gleague.nba.com/player/1631286/jalen-adaway)
-
-
0-0
0-0
0-0
-
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0

Adrian Delph (https://gleague.nba.com/player/1631479/adrian-delph)
-
-
0-0
0-0
0-0
-
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0

Marcus Zegarowski (https://gleague.nba.com/player/1630681/marcus-zegarowski)
-
-
0-0
0-0
0-0
-
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0

TOTAL
-
-
39-93
9-32
11-15
-
17
37
54
11
15
8
17
5
0
108

NBA G League (https://gleague.nba.com/game/okl-vs-aus-2022200017?view=box-score)

Seventyniner

12-29-2022, 11:27 PM

4 made threes, very nice. If anyone watched for it, how does his form look?

Ocotillo

12-30-2022, 08:20 AM

It's G-League and I have only seen the above box score but wow, 21 boards for Alize Johnson.

exstatic

12-30-2022, 08:26 AM

1 assist. Looks like the Wesley PG experiment is at least on hold, if not over.

John B

12-30-2022, 09:33 AM

1 assist. Looks like the Wesley PG experiment is at least on hold, if not over.

Too early. He’s just back from injury and still testing his game. I’m just happy he’s putting up numbers. And I don’t mind him staying awhile at Austin. I’m liking Branham pkaying backup PG for now to get him aggressive more with the ball in his hand, which I think he’s responding well.

dbestpro

12-30-2022, 09:35 AM

Mr. Body

12-30-2022, 09:46 AM

1 assist. Looks like the Wesley PG experiment is at least on hold, if not over.

That might be a big read. He may be asked to work specifically on his shot creation and finishing right now, which frankly are dire right now.

spurraider21

12-30-2022, 05:28 PM

basically a bunch of 3's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEL4mqLMHEQ

duncan2150

12-30-2022, 07:33 PM

Good to see him hitting those 3's as he was not a good shooter in college.

Seventyniner

12-30-2022, 10:17 PM

basically a bunch of 3's

Thanks for the vid. It's just what I was looking for.

Wesley came down with his lower body rotated almost 90 degrees and his right foot well in front of his left on each three. The left foot was sideways each time on landing. This certainly looks unorthodox, but is it bad? More importantly, is it dangerous? With regards to future injury potential, that is.

The Truth #6

12-31-2022, 02:17 PM

Shooting stance seems bad. Not sure about for injuries but if he isn’t already making jumpers consistently with that stance I have to think it’s part of the problem. But I’m not a shot analyst.

BackHome

12-31-2022, 06:21 PM

There was a reason he was picked when he was I am not worried what he is showing in his first year. He is a project so just want him to get better every year and I think year 3 will see him live up to his true potential

BacktoBasics

01-01-2023, 12:50 PM

A true success story would have him become a legitimate rotation player. But just like Lonnie if he doesn’t become an all star this crowd will turn on him.

exstatic

01-01-2023, 01:36 PM

A true success story would have him become a legitimate rotation player. But just like Lonnie if he doesn’t become an all star this crowd will turn on him.

I didn’t turn on Lonnie because he wasn’t an All Star, I turned on him because he wasn’t a serviceable NBA player. His career net rtg when he left was-12, the deficit for every 100 possessions he was on the floor for 4 years.

BacktoBasics

01-01-2023, 06:06 PM

I didn’t turn on Lonnie because he wasn’t an All Star, I turned on him because he wasn’t a serviceable NBA player. His career net rtg when he left was-12, the deficit for every 100 possessions he was on the floor for 4 years.

That’s a bit disingenuous. Imagine having a net rating on a shitty team. The bottom line is that he’s a serviceable player and at this point he’s exceeded his draft position.

exstatic

01-01-2023, 10:38 PM

That’s a bit disingenuous. Imagine having a net rating on a shitty team. The bottom line is that he’s a serviceable player and at this point he’s exceeded his draft position.

You can be on the same bad teams and have different net ratings. Most of the guys during the seasons he was here had slight negatives, -3 to -5. Derrick White and Dejounte had positive net ratings seasons while Lonnie was here. STs favorite whipping boy Bryn Forbes out performs him. In their two overlapping seasons, Forbes was -1 and -8, and his overall Spurs mark is -5.

Lonnie Walker was one of the worst, most atrocious defenders to ever lace up for the Silver and Black.

ace3g

01-06-2023, 09:40 PM

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1611549061009625088

offset formation

01-06-2023, 10:18 PM

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1611549061009625088

Pretty good stuff. That left handed crossover and the power move to the basket can't be taught. One reason why I was so opposed to Primo running point because he almost never had any easy buckets like that.

Mr. Body

01-06-2023, 10:21 PM

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1611549061009625088

If Blake Wesley can dunk every shot, he's going to be a very, very good player.

CGD

01-06-2023, 10:41 PM

Damn, want the hell happened to Jonny Davis. Have to take the L there. I was high on him.

SPURt

01-06-2023, 10:56 PM

Damn, want the hell happened to Jonny Davis. Have to take the L there. I was high on him.
Me too, I totally forgot about him. It’s crazy he’s not contributing to the Wizards at all. I thought he’d be a rotation player by this point.

tim_duncan_fan

01-07-2023, 02:02 AM

You can be on the same bad teams and have different net ratings. Most of the guys during the seasons he was here had slight negatives, -3 to -5. Derrick White and Dejounte had positive net ratings seasons while Lonnie was here. STs favorite whipping boy Bryn Forbes out performs him. In their two overlapping seasons, Forbes was -1 and -8, and his overall Spurs mark is -5.

Lonnie Walker was one of the worst, most atrocious defenders to ever lace up for the Silver and Black.

Primo rarely beat his man at all

John B

01-07-2023, 07:22 AM

Primo rarely beat his man at all

Not Primo’s game. Primo instead was getting stronger to backdown his smaller defender. So no need for comparison there.

offset formation

01-07-2023, 11:48 PM

Not Primo’s game. Primo instead was getting stronger to backdown his smaller defender. So no need for comparison there.

Lol. Yes it was clear to anyone watching it wasn't his game, except PATFO.

CGD

01-08-2023, 08:26 AM

Is he still in Austin or with the big club now?

exstatic

01-08-2023, 09:00 AM

Is he still in Austin or with the big club now?

He and Bassey were called up for last night’s game. Don’t know what their status is today.